/hhg/ - Horus Heresy General - Centurion Edition

>>53298374

First for night lords, the faggest legion>>53298374

>caution, new to this, bought a BoC set and got some shit off ebay
I like infantry, I like bikes, and I like flyers.
Is there any way to make all of them work in a list, or is massive war machine tanks essential to a legion list nowadays?

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>>53298374
SoH here to clean up a batmen and emubarbarian infestation!

>order a bunch of legion head/torso/shoulder sets
>have no idea what I'm going to do with them because I can't decide on a list to build towards

I mean shit, the 15 I do have assembled have no heads or shoulders for painting reasons. I also have old school legion bits with even more different heads/shoulders.

>>53298446
You can certainly make it work. Infantry and bikes can be given melta-bombs for fucking up tanks, though rules interpretations can make the difference between one guy throwing it or the entire squad tossing bombs. I don't remember, so other anons can fill you in. Now, if you want some REALLY tank-killy infantry, Terminators with Chainfists will RIP AND TEAR anything with an armor value provided you can get them into melee.

As for fliers, the Lightning can be given Kraken penetrator heavy missiles, 2 for 35pts, which act like one-shot flying chainfists. These will ruin any tank's day too. With Ground Tracking Auguries and Battle Servitor control, they'll make a mess of any ground forces (which is generally why people take AA)

Having fuck-off-hueg tanks helps, but it isn't necessarily a requirement. It just means you'll have to get a bit creative with how you kill people. Though, as an aside, what your local meta looks like can have a big impact on what you need to bring.

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This makes Custodian #70 and Shield Captain #5.

Time to clean them and hate myself more.

Bookfag here who started chronologically with 30k. What was unknown before before the Horus Heresy books came out? Still can't quite grasp that the lore on primarchs and legions was simply shown through various rulebooks

>>53299003
The earliest I'm aware of was that HH trading card game where as a tie-in every White Dwarf had a section on the backgrounds of each primarchs/legion

Also IIRC the guy that wrote the Garro book mentioned that the Garro/Flight of the Eisenstein stuff dates back to at least Epic

Which Traitor Legion has simplest, noob-friendly color scheme?

>>53298815
When I say bikes, I mean outriders and attack bikes, not jetbikes.
Infantry often get smashed too easily nowadays, I've noticed.
My local meta has 2 mechanicum, not sure what varieties but one has a lot of beep boops, 1 auxilia, 9 legion lists (at least half are full of tanks), and 1 guy brought a short Custodes list (1k iirc) that stomped on a LW player.
My big concern is that I can't rely on getting bikers as troops, unless there is a way to do that. I would prefer biker squads, lightning/xiphons to taste, and infantry blocks to capitalize on the flyers/support the ass ends of the bikers. What legion would support this?
>I'd love to use Salamanders because flamers/melta err'where, but it's intensely lore grating
>>53298913
Why so many?
Why so many shield captains?

>>53299141
Goal is to have 100 Custodes and the multiple Captains is for different wargear loadouts.

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>>53299003
What little existed prior to the advent of the Horus heresy series was largely taken from the small excerpts scattered throughout the rulebooks, codexes, and occasionally short stories, rendering it as a 'time of legend'. While it was known that Horus slew Sanguinus, fought and lost against the Emperor, or that Rowboat theoretically killed Alpharius at some point, and was also mortally wounded by Fulgrim, almost the entirety of the Heresy was shrouded in mystery. This is part of why some people hate the book series, because to them it is killing off the sense of 'mystique' that the time period had.

Personally, I disagree with them, since I feel that it still has that legendary nature to it. I'm also a slut for fluff, so the more the better.

>>53299187
>100 custodes
>$50 per 5
>$1000 on the same sprue over and over
>and over

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THIS COMMUNITY

>>53299003
Mostly the broad strokes were known. The Novels and FW books elaborate a lot on the existing stuff, more than they generally change it.

>The Exterminatus of Isvtaan III
>The Flight of the Eisenstein
>The Dropsite Massacre
>The Burning of Prospero
>The Word Bearers attacking Calth
>Tallarn having the largest tank battle ever
>The Mechanicum split in half
>Sanguinius punking a Bloodthirster while fighting at the Eternity Gate
>Emperor confronting Horus on the bridge of his ship
The origins of the Primarchs are generally unchanged as well. Johnson and Russ were both feral children. Fulgrim did take a planet that was terminally short of resources and actually got it producing enough to grow instead of shrink. Angron was stolen from an honorable death with his comrades. Morty hates the Emperor for killing his step-dad when he couldn't. And a host of other things.

Bit that I think were added (because almost 20 years of 40K lore piles up, and can get confusing when they change shit even before the Horus Heresy stuff started) include... Some are more logical than others, obviously
>Istvaan III being used to cull loyalist elements from the legions
>The details about what happened on and to the Eisenstein
>The attack on Calth being a turn-coat attack rather than a direct one (can't remember for sure, honestly)
>They upped the numbers of the Tallarn battle because tens of thousands seemed a lot larger in the 80's
And a bunch of other things that you will find varying opinions on.

>>53299129
Ultramarines.

>>53299242
>eBay for $30-35
>20 Guardians
>20 Sentinels
>10 Hetaeron
>10 Agamatus Jetbikes
>10 Sagittarum

I like Custodes, what can I say

>>53299283
bullshit

>>53299003
Just read Index Astartes and you'll have a pretty good idea.

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>>53299293
Mkay

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>>53299141
Infantry tend to get smashed for the same reason they get smashed in real life: artillery and field weapons fuck infantry up. Whether you like tanks or not, you'll need to find a way to deliver your troops where they need to go. This can be through comparatively small Rhinos, drop pods, or sticking squads in Storm Eagles and belching them out on objectives/enemies.

As for bikes, yes, I get that. Outriders and attack bikes are fine, just a bit costly in terms of literal price and points. When you're making a bike squad, build them with a specific role in mind and stick to it. If you try and give them gear to do everything they'll have a hard time making their points back. For the Attack Bikes though, I'd scope out your local meta a bit more and get familiar with your targets. Since they're mounting the heavier weapons, you don't want to shell out the points for multi-meltas and find out that everyone is running AC. Know your foe, and build around that.

You can get bikers as troops if you're running White Scars, but that is a journey few men finish. Bikes and Lightnings will eat up your Fast Attack slots in an instant, which won't leave you with any room for Storm Eagles if you were hoping to use them as transports. But right now, the alternatives are: utilize Rhinos/drop pods for your troops, go WS and go full biker, or pray that FW adds some fast-attack centric RoW in the next book.

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>>53299293
Plus 20 more.

>>53299354
oh, the guy that can't place a transfer worth a shit, and posts his mediocre custodes all the time. post an up close. prove me wrong.

BS stands, Chinese

>>53299118
>>53299212
>>53299244
>>53299307
Thanks kindly fellas!

>>53299283
Just because of you, anon, I'm going to list my Custodes on Ebay tomorrow.

>>53299244
>>They upped the numbers of the Tallarn battle because tens of thousands seemed a lot larger in the 80's
Eh, GW's been having a problem with scale inflation for years now. Remember how Medusa V felt like such a small nothing campaign, fighting over a single world? Remember how it was only a few years after Armageddon was an awesome and epic campaign fighting over a single world? And how a few years before that Ichar IV was such a success that we blew GW's expectations out of the water while fighting over a single world by mail-in?

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>>53299382
You sound bitter

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>>53299382
Like obnoxiously bitter.

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>>53299382
Oh and here's the rest of the finished stuff.

The unpainted stuff is all on my desk

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>>53299129
Tbh, probably Word Bearers or 1kS. Pretty simple, red and silver or gold. SoH requires paint mixing to get the right color, DG and WE are in mostly white, NL have free-hand lightning bolts, you need to love painting gold for EC, AL paint schemes are all over the place, and IW are mostly basic, but you'll have to figure out a way to paint hazard stripes.

>>53299283

I kinda want to do the same for SoS, except they're decidedly worse as a standalone army compared to custodes.

>>53299451
I have 10 SoS I need to clean and paint, and even then I find myself struggling while I still have 20+ Custodes to paint.

>>53299463

Oh, I still have three HH boxes plus to assemble and paint, so I know the struggle.

Speaking of, where can I get ass Marine arms? I'm thinking about running a few naked terror squads and need CCW/BP arms. Both HH boxes are sorely lacking here.

>>53299544
Ebay has good bundles for arms and such. I bought a bundle of 20 bolter arms (L/R) for $5.

>>53299595

Any that mesh well with HH marks, though? Particularly MKIV. I have a bunch of CSM arms I can use, but idk how well that will work.

However, plastic berserker arms make for good termie arms if you have the old style combi-weapons.

I hate painting silver but I love IW
Does anymone have a good and simple way to do that ?

>>53299679
Silver primer, and tons of Nuln Oil

>>53299129
>>53299430
It should be noted that some chapters and other forces within the main Legions had alternate colour schemes, which can be found in the various FW books for them.

>>53299679
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-FI/Citadel-Basecoat-Spray-Leadbelcher

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Bit of a shot in the dark here, but worth an attempt: does anyone happen to know the size of the original Lightning Strike Fighter? Or even better, have one for a scale shot? I'm trying to see how my Lightning proxy sizes up. After eyeballing Voss-pattern Lightnings for an hour, it looks like I'm only off by a smidge, but I'd rather also have the original for comparison.

Speaking of spray paint, does anyone know a good dark blue spray? It would save me a shitload of time on my night lords.

>>53299718
>>53299729
lol yeah, but something maybe a lit bit "complicated".

Was thinking of :
-Silver spray
-Apply gold
-Agrax wash
-Necron compound dry brush
-Apply black & stripes
-2nd wash of agrax

Is it going to looks good ? or meh

>>53299765
>Is it going to looks good? or meh
Your guess is as good as mine buddy. Without doing the paintjob myself or seeing a completed result, I haven't the slightest clue how that'd end up. But with silver on gold on silver, and two layers of brown wash, my gut feeling says eugh.

>>53299765
https://youtu.be/N5xalX3aKAs

>>53299765
Buy Rub'n Buff Silver. It's the most convincing metallic finish I've ever seen.

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>>53299751
Fuck that thing looks gooofy; iirc the old model is slightly smaller than the newer Voss pattern Lightning, so if your proxy is running a bit smaller than the new one your doing just fine

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>>53300085
Alright then, thanks for the info. I know my proxy triggered someone the last time I posted it, but if it fits the bill on size, armament, and is in an appropriate aesthetic, I'm happy then.

>>53300085
I definitely have a softspot for the old one; it's very clunky and wonderfully 40k, however I really love the Thunderbolt so much more.

>tfw when your apothecary w/o AA challenges Dynat, your opponent uses his power sword and you make 4 FNPs
>then your delegatus punches dynats shit the fuck out
both of those badass motherfuckers are getting painted special, and the apothecary is getting Terminator armour and and upgrade to primus medicae

>>53300204
>>53299751 here, only slightly relevant but I never realized how beefy the Thunderbolt was til I saw one next to a Voss while I was looking for scale references. The Thunderbolt is thicc and I like it.

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>>53300211

>>53300178
Can you post a picture of it? Curious what it looks like
>>53300234
Everything is better when its THICC

>>53300257
that was essentially my face

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>>53300363
This is the most recent pic I have, I can take an angled profile shot of it in the morning for a better look. Built using the entirety of a Stormtalon/hawk kit. Both pairs of wings together gives it a respectable wingspan, rather than those little nubs, and I used one of the Talon's engine pods to extend the tail for some length. Most of all, it no longer has the chibi-look of either the Talon or Hawk, and imo looks more like an actual fighter craft.

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>>53300483
Ahhh, its not bad; I would play a match with you if you brought it. I actually thought it was a Xiphon stand in, (still trying to figure out a good way to kitbash pic featured into existence)

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>>53300483
Actually, speaking of games, is there anyone in a gaming group(s) in the Pacific North-West? Moving for school hopefully to either Vancouver Island or the Okanagan and Im looking for a 30k group to nestle in with.

>>53300590
>the island or the okanagan
sorry dude, i'm in north van and we have a growing heresy community, but i dont know too much about anything else up in those necks of the woods.
a couple guys in the HHG discord are on the island though, could ask in there or they might be lurkan

>>53300550
Honestly, I thought about it, but I felt like having it serve as a Lightning is less cheesy.

As for the flying wing, Dust Tactics had two jets in that style. Unfortunately, they're both a bit small and out of scale for 30/40k, about 6" across and a bit less in length.

>>53300590
I'm still looking for people to play here in Spain, the only ones I knew that played 40/30k where a bunch of waacfaggots. Life is sad anon

>>53300483
You have a biker consul? His pimp posses seems light. What kinda success have you had with him?
>I'm hopeful biker anon from above, looking for proof of concept

>>53300637
>>53300613
Lol Im off in the boonies of South Eastern BC; had a group of 20 people that has dwindled down to maybe 3 or 4 people due to a pair of WAAC powerfags of staggering power...the local meta usually does 2v2 matches, etc. Had a brilliant gem of game modding via messing with with the alternating turn phases for simultaneous activation based on your total unit count and rolling for initiative.
No biggy man, if UBC Van was still accepting late applications I might've ended up there.

>>53300748
Ah, sorry, just a bling'd out sgt (I mean, I am running EC). Haven't had any success with them yet, the bikers haven't seen play yet. That said, I built that particular squad for fucking up problematic enemy infantry. I have another in the works that I'll be giving flamers.

As for biker consuls, I have no experience with them myself, but on the rare occasion I see them they seem to do decently.

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>>53298471
>Technogeese, Emubarbarians and Batmen
It's nice to be in the summary even if there's no such thing in the OP.
>>53298374
>White/Yellow Paint Grievances Sub-edition
What's the Edition then? We've had comfy threads. That's nice.

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>>53300626
You might be onto something there ECLanon. I would saw the goofy butterfly tail off and have to scavenge some model aircraft wings to give it a swept-back gull wing, I might be able to make something awesome looking out of that kit with a suitable amount of retro-scifi

>>53300859
What do you have them geared with?
My last experience with Warhammer was early 5e, so all of this is basically crash course in army building.
I... don't trust some of the local guys to do right by me, and as much as I hate relying on word of /tg/, I've been reading up on tips on these threads in the archives. I heard you are best served disregarding anything on 1d4chan?

>>53300550
it's all curved surfaces, why not make a mold in plaster and hand-sand? can carve out the detail later after making a few blanks.

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>>53300956
3x Outriders w/Plasma, Sgt+Powersword+Meltabomb. 190pts total, so it's a bit pricey, but in theory they'll be able to gut their points in elites or characters before eating dirt themselves. Just remember, build your bikes with a purpose in mind. As I mentioned before, it's easy to overload a squad, and those points add up fast.

1d4chan isn't that bad for a new/returning player, but I'd take it with a grain of salt due to inaccuracies. Bias is, to my understanding, pretty limited, so it could be worse. As for /tg/, we're not that bad at certain times. Nights like tonight are good, but when the shitposters arrive they are here in force. All I can say is try and time your questions appropriately.

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>>53301083
Thats...actually not bad of an idea; I have no idea how I would go about the process but Im always up to try new things. Gonna buy that Dust kit just to see how out of scale it is and cobble a mock up; after that ratio that bitch and try to make a mold to make a pair of ingame models

>>53301244
If you don't mind waiting til I wake back up, I can take a picture of it alongside the Lightning tomorrow. I could now, but getting decent lighting set up at this hour's a pain and I'm winding down.

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>>53301269
No worries breh, gonna be cranking calc until likely 0500 local time like a green tea guzzling retard

>>53301210
Alright, cool.
So, do any legions besides White Stripes do something good for bikes/flyers, or is it worst paint scheme/nothing?
>already know the answer
What legions synergize well with them, then? Shit, if DG had biker destroyers, I'd pick them in a minute.

>>53298446
It's easiest if you're okay with Rhinos. Infantry on foot doesn't work well unless you pick a legion that gets Infiltrate (RG or AL) or an extra shooty gunline (IW or DG). White Scars are an option too; if you run Chogorian Brotherhood, bikes are troops and infantry can Outflank (but have to start in reserve).

The other ideal transport options (Dreadclaws, Storm Eagles) compete with bikes for Fast Attack slots. There are large, costly ones in Heavy Support but they're the equivalent of Spartans or larger, but flying (Kharybdis, Thunderhawk, Stormbird).

Anyway, veterans with meltaguns or combi-meltas and Machine Killer are great against tanks. Attack bikes with multi-meltas or autocannons are alright except against the heaviest. Flyers are good against tanks - look for Kraken Penetrators. (Against softer targets, Fire Raptors are great.)

Outriders are melee units that work better if your local meta ignores the "one grenade per squad per turn" FAQ, jetbikes stay far away and shoot at infantry.

>>53301298
>So, do any legions besides White Stripes do something good for bikes/flyers, or is it worst paint scheme/nothing?
DA w/ Ravenwing, but imo it's the most boring paint scheme of all the legions.

1 Imperial Knight (plastic variant) or 2 Vindicators + 2 Javellins (Lascannon): which one would be more all-around choice? Both roughly takes ~400pts.

>>53301387
Well, my idea was infantry blobs to make a firebase core while bikes advanced up the flanks and flyers ripped up the center.
I'm hearing what I was basically afraid of, that infantry on foot is obsolete in any capacity, and taking bikes impinges on my ability to use infantry in a capable fashion.
>goddammit, I just want dudes, and dudes on bikes, and dudes in planes, and fuckers gotta be fuckers because GW is still the fucking same fuck this shit IMMA DO IT ANYWAY FUCK THIS GAME I'LL DO WHAT I WANT AND HAVE FUN AND YOU FUCKERS CAN'T STOP ME FUCK 30K FUCK SPACE MARINES FUCK GW AND FUCK YOU TOO

What HH legal predator configurations can be made with a plastic kit? Is it just the tripple las variant that isn't kosher?

Any more books like Talon of Horus, where it's about Chaos-bros? (Never thought I'd like a traitor World-Eater) Bonus points if there's a Thousand Sons character

>>53301544
30K players are more interested in fun and fluffy armies more than they are in waac style of play though, so you shouldn't worry too much.

>>53301544
Just build the army you want to see anon. I built my raven guard army like I wanted it and allthough it's tough to win with, it's not impossible and it's cool to see on the table even if I get wiped.

Besides, by the time you finish your army HH might even be switching to 8th for all we know.

>>53301640
Black Legion (second book) will be out pretty soon.

>>53301640
Night Lords trilogy

>>53301704
Yipee
>>53301791
About time I started reading about the batman legion

>>53301406

It's not the scheme with DA that make them cool, it's the detailing and heraldry (checks all over the place boi).

>>53301823

The books are legitimately good. As a NL player, I was shocked that anything related to my legion was well received.

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>>53301491
Always better to split your eggs into multiple baskets; that way you can hit multiple targets and be immune to having ALL your firepower exploded in one turn...usually.
>>53301560
Anything with an Auto-cannon in the turret really, your sponsons are either HB or LC. Do some converting on the model to make it look better than the god-awful GW pred turret; seriously that thing is a grade fuckin A++ shot trap

>>53298913
Unless have them all painted, you're a poofta

>>53301887
Still better than the leman russ tractor brigade. Although being armed with an autocannon just means the predator has more similarities with an ifv.

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>>53301971
*Shudders* Somehow worse than a KV-2....in game I wouldnt give a fuck if my opponent uses Deimos or Mars pattern rhino/preds.

Also autocannon turret makes it an IFV/scout tank in armament but with a light/medium hull. Predator=30/40k Sherman?

>>53302012
Yeah a predator is similar to a sherman or a panzer iv used to support infantry.

>>53300937
What the living fuck is that? I want it

>>53300483
Looking nice anon. I know you've been showing them off a bit, and if I had just one smidge of advice, I would say do the bases.

In my humble opinion, models look much better with completed bases. They do as much to finish off a model as weathering or transfers.

Isn't Pred generally meh tier unless you use Preds as Troop RoW?

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>>53302112
A Dust tactics Ho-347 that I intend on kitbashing into a proxy Lightning for my space Germanic Romans and also WOLFENSTEIN. ECLanon should give a sizing picture of it compared to a Lightning for size reference in the morning; if need be I can try to ratio it in a mold with putty or Imperial it up with underslung Manticore missile and shit

>>53302191
Space germanic romans? Show your miniatures anon

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>>53302207
Lol, Im being a shit; Im poking at SoH and their inspiration, (as best I can tell). Im shit at painting currently but if you insist...
Fine detail, touch ups, decals and some more TLC and I think I might be okay at painting

Which units could be double used in a 30k Taghmata/40k AdMech army?

>>53302376
Pretty decent, though I'd advise you to clean up your paint job.

>>53300956
Sounds juice, share some stories?

Actually doing so right now; finally have a couple minutes and some fine detail brushes instead of the shit I was using before

>>53302494
Don't use tripcode anon, it's against the etiquette of this site

>>53302570
Still super new to 4chan in general beyond lurking. You mean the name by Tripcode? I thought it was kosher for the goose/emu thing I kinda caused. Thanks for the heads up

>>53302570
I thought it was against etiquette to fill up space with shit like "going to sleep now, baii!" and "gonna grab a bite to eat, pizza or burger?" ?

>>53302596
No problem mate. People usually don't reply to tripfags as the whole concept of this site is anonymity despite some users who are providing a specific service such as scanon

>>53302625
Gotcha; a name is earned for good service to the community.
On another note, how do you usually run Tartarsauce termi squads? (If you do of course)

>>53302664
I don't, but looking at their rules they seem to favour melee loadouts? To take advantage of sweeping advance, I mean. Maybe stick with lightning claws and power weapons, with the odd chainfist for anti-AV? They don't have the invul for taking as much punishment as Cataphs

>>53302664

I use three lightning claws, two chainfists, a heavy flamer and a volkite charger

>>53302696
Okay, so my intuition was right. SoH get bonuses at the end of CQC if they outnumber people; mine are a squad of 5 with a mix of chainfists and lightning claws to make the unit a multipurpose can opener in a dreadclaw+Autocannon for extra use

>>53302732
Bear in mind that I1 weapons can't get that bonus attack.

>>53302732
>>53302798
Also a squad of 5 terminators is pretty low on model count if you want to get extra attacks.

>>53302727
Pretty much the same but swap the heavy flamer for a Reaper Autocannon
>>53302798
Oh definitely; I go by the axiom of, "If the chainfists are the damage dealers, Im not gonna need the bonus attacks"

>>53302823
wouldnt be sending them at anything numbering more than 15 models anyways; termis count as 2 guys for the purposes of Merciless Fighters iirc

>>53302883
Too bad Jump pack Reavers are too overcosted; otherwise they'll be perfect material for that rule.

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>>53302958
Maybe FW will do so when the edition counter rolls over on their end?

On an unrelated note, does FW sell mk4 jump packs separately

>>53303028

Alas, no. It's fucking annoying. The only place you can get them is the plastic sanguinary guard kits, but they're hard to come by and usually so expensive that buying the SG kit in its entirety would be cheaper than just buying the packs from it.

On an unrelated subject, I have a leviathan dread and I can't decide whether to put it in my AL or BA. The former have Dynat, 30 mkIV marines built to be run as vets most of the time and 5 tartaros (plan is to get some rhinos and land raiders plus other tanks), the latter have 20 MkIII, 5 cataphractii, 3 boxnaughts, a contemptor, and a land speeder (plan is to get a couple more of those, a flyer or two of some sort, and some assault marines). It's not that I'll necessarily run everything at once, I just can't decide which it would fit better with.

>>53303230
I know right??? Im not down for spending $9 CAN each for a bloody mk4 jetpack+random BA bits and bobs.
Personally I would put the Levi in your AL if you have a pod for the chunky bastard because it turns into a rape machine against pretty much everything HARDER. I think the BA one can replace its tit flamers for tits ASSAULT CANNONS however; dont know alot about 30k BA desu

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>>53301887
Because design trumps practicality.

>>53303346

Yeah, that's where I'm torn. AL and Dynat's rules in particular are good for podded leviathans. That said, I wanted to get transports across the board for the AL, and thematically run them as a mechanised infantry force.

I originally thought of the BA as more of a hammer and anvil, with assault marines, speeders, and flyers forming the hammer, while support squads and dreadnoughts form the anvil.

Having written it out, I feel like sticking with using it in the BA (which was the original plan) makes more sense, regardless of whether it's more powerful using AL rules.

>>53303028
what are we even looking at here? these dudes are pretty funky.

>>53303714
Nah, you're thinking of the death guard.

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name one person better than this

>>53304395
Bruce Jones, decksweeping technician [4th grade] on the frigate "Eternal Mothball".

>>53303714
Reavers

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>>53302664
>Gotcha; a name is earned for good service to the community.
Nope, not even then. You have to give away either products, drawings or boipussy to "earn" a name. I liked that someone liked stuff I wrote enough to wear it as a name, but what are you going to do.
>>53302605
I have awoken. It's so easy to get around that limitation by doing a double response and include literally everything else. Especially if you also add a pic to it. Gonna grab something to eat :^)
>>53301887
Pic related. Heavily biased, but still fun

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>>53304395
Here's one.

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>>53304395
The man, the legend, you owe him your freedom!

>>53299212
right there with you. Sure it's a little oversaturated at this point but the fluff is why I'm here in this hobby still. 30k for life.

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>>53304625
>headless manus

>>53304648
lorgar is cool

>>53299129
death guard. Hands down.

You need like 5 paints for good tabletop standard. 6 or 7 for decent painting.

> White, forest green, steel, black, and a brown wash.

> for better than tabletop add gold for shoulder trim, grey for highlights, black wash for steel parts.

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>>53299430
IW are the easiest. If you're doing hazard stripes, Lahmian Medium with your black stripes over a yellow base is literally the hardest part. Everything else is stupid easy.


Any legion (AL, TS) with that metallic look are easily harder. As is FW's SoH recipe. Idk why people are still afraid to paint white. It's also stupid easy if you watch Duncan's WE tutorial.

pic related; my AL and first time painting hazard stripes.

>>53299129
World Eaters, all you need is something sharp and maybe some friends if it's a big army.

>>53301544
Yeah, just do it. The things to look are for are:
>AP3 blasts
There's a lot of marine-munching artillery. You'll outrange some of it, and your flyers can take care of Medusas. Quad mortars are hard to destroy through shooting, though.
>Drop pods
Against orbital assault lists or podding dreadnoughts your firebase will be in trouble unless it has some close combat defense. That's why IW and DG can do this, because they have shooty termies that can help the firebase shoot but also defend it.

Also, a lot of armies are mobile and may be able to just avoid your firebase unless it's shooty enough.

Those aren't deal breakers, you just need to mitigate them at least a little. Flyers should be pretty helpful.

>>53304725
Is that Alpha Creed, and if so where's his cigar?

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anyone want to post pics of army id like to see

>>53304648
Fuck off, Erebus. Word Bearers are my legion and I still can't stand you, you piece of shit.

Questions regarding dreadnoughts:

Are Contemptor Mortis Dreds with dual Plasma cannons viable/good? What about dual volkite culverins?
Similarly, are the plasma cannonades good on the Deredeo, or don't bother?

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How's my Alpha Legionnaire looking? Both color and size wise.

Him and the Rubric have had their height adjusted and the Grey Knight conversion is a Numarine stand in, Dark Angel is there for scale.

>>53305292
I think plasma will become better in 8E. The Deredeo is better, but costs more so it depends on what you're willing to spend.

>>53305292
I'm a fan of culverins on cortus dreads (they fit well alongside my volkite Terror Squads) but not tried them on a mortis. I think they'd be hard pressed to beat twin kheres there as the bs5 with rending makes them very good for their cost. Plasma cannons feel like a waste of the extra BS IMO.

>>53298471
How do you do that weathering? It's fucking amazing.

I've only ever painted stuff super clean before so my Heresy models look so out of place compared to other peoples.

>>53304395
Sanguinius. Prettier and a better primarch.

>>53305300
Hard to identify colors when your camera's white balance has been thrown so far off kilter.

The angle doesn't help with size, either. Shoot head-on.

>>53302439
secutarii. castellax/kastellans as castellax or kastellans. thats it.

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>>53306387
My camera is fucked and I need a new one, here's a head on picture at least.

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Is this the general for people that spent hundreds/thousands of dollars and countless hours of labour and precious free time to build a force of manlets that no one takes seriously (like IRL)?

/hhg/ forever BTFO by the march of time. Boy I'm glad I waited with my FW order,

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>>53302191
Delivery! One Lightning proxy, one Horten HO-347 Fledermaus fighter, and a Rhino+Marine for scale. Pic one of two.

>>53307409
I can't imagine anyone outside of the hobby suddenly taking your army of plastic children's toys seriously just because they're a couple of mm taller.

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>>53307409
I'm afraid not. Considerably more than 2" taller than a Primaris, here.

Fellow anons, please present this plebian with our assortment of 2W patricians.

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>>53307461
And part two, the profile shot. Hope this helps, since there really aren't many good scale shots for reference for GW models

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In a 2500pt game, how large would you make melta-vet squads, flamer support squads, and missile launcher heavy support squads? Less than the full 10?

The rest of the army will be outriders (two mid-sized squads with praetor and librarian attached to them), 6 jetbikes with 2 volkite culverins, and some miscellaneous fast attack/heavy support. Probably a small squad of attack bikes, couple of javelins (or more attack bikes), and a Rhino-based vehicle of some sort. Can't decide between a Vindicator, Whirlwind Scorpius, or Predator. 2500pts Chogorian brotherhood.

pic not mine

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>>53307464
>Marinelet btfo
>Inb4 FW "TrueScale" Range

A little titbit from a GW livestream today, apparently in 8th edition power fists suffer a -1 to hit modifier as their version of the "unwieldy" rule. So instead of your marine sergeant hitting the other marine sergeant on a 4+ due to their equal WS, in 8th he'll hit him on a 3+ with a -1 modifier. I hope you're all utterly blown away by this monumental change.

>>53307627
>the guy she tells you not to worry about
>you

>>53307409
>Caring about Primaris Marines.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>53302958

That's how I feel as a Night Lords player. I love Night Raptors, but they're just so expensive compared to assmarines. I can get 20 ass Marines for the price of 15 raptors, and I'll always get my +1 hit/wound because of it.

>>53307750
I thought they'd get a "strike last" rule like they had before Initiative determined combat order.

Time to start modeling power fists...

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>>53307409
You mean the marines that are still perfectly fine and usable within both games, are still setting appropriate, and always will be? Go back to the Plastic Burning containment thread where you belong child. If you're not intelligent enough to string together basic ideas, /hhg/ might be a bit too advanced for you.

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>>53299430
purely from personal experience from easiest to hardest
1 world eaters
2 death guard
3 iron warriors
4 dark Angels
5 word bearers
6 night lords
7 sons of horus
8 emperors children
9 alpha legion ( easier if non metallic)
10 thousand sons ( easier with non metallic)

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For crying out loud people.

>>53307540
If you can't afford 10 and want more than 5, I've found seven to be the perfect balance of bodies and cheapness.

Honestly though, you're best off skipping the HS rockets (not cost effective, especially when Javelin speeders are as fluffy for WS). I'd say probably same thing with flames dudes, they're good enough I guess but won't do much against marines or vehicles. If you're gonna make the commitment, melta's scarier and plasma's killier, and for sheer cost/effect volkite is your best option. (People shit on it but a 10-man of caliber camping a backfield objective is good af at plucking tacs and light AV)

An 8-man melta squad will wreck house, though AC will ruin your day. If you give them sniper and give 3-4 power weapons, it'd be a good idea to put them near the bikes for max killing potential combined with lots of anti-charge power.

Looking at the numbers, this looks kinda fun:


Praetor: bike, iron halo, paragon blade, digital weapons
ML2 Libby w/ power glaive, AA, refractor field, bike

8 vets: combi-meltas, power glaive, 3 power weapons, rhino
Contemptor-Mortis: kheres assault cannons

5 bikers: sarge w/ power glaive
5 bikers: sarge w/ power glaive
4 Jetbikes, culverin, sarge w/ power glaive, melta bomb
4 Jetbikes, culverin, sarge w/ power glaive, melta bomb

3 Javelins
3 Javelins

5 HS Jetbikes: volkite culverin
Vindicator w/ DB
Vindicator w/ DB

2500/2500

>>53308012
Masterful piece of art anon, I bow before you

>>53308273
Thanks, I put a lot of effort into it.

>>53307973
Those guys look great!

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At long last I've finished the first ten of my AL (plus Dynat). Hopefully I can do the next 20 or so a bit more speedily now I've got the scheme down.

>>53308247
That's lots of great advice, thanks!

Half the reason I started looking at the missile HS squad is flak. Dreads and flyers don't fit my fluff and the only other option is a Whirlwind Hyperios (at 75 points, should I just do that?). I could probably cave and get a flyer too.

The flamers were a fluff choice since they've been fighting orks for a while now... but calivers do sound like a good idea. Hell, I'll just build both and switch off.

Does anyone use lascannon javelins or is too many points for one shot? (Even if it's a nearly guaranteed hit.)

>>53308525
Those are hella sweet. Airbrushed? What's the green/blue you're using?

>>53308539

Airbrushed indeed. Well, the base colour at least. The green/blue is a base of a 50/50 mix of createx iridescent electric blue and iridescent turquoise, with a top-down highlight of the turquoise, all thinned with floor polish. As the name suggests it's a proper iridescent effect, though it's reasonably subtle and for some reason or another artificial light seems to flatten it out. I can't really capture it properly in a photograph, though my ancient phone might have something to do with that.

>>53308791
That's just camera technology man, nothing on your part. There are certain effects that cameras do not do justice, and that must be one.

>>53308525
Those look sweet. Did you greenstuff those shoulder pads yourself?

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>>53304625
Agreed.

>>53308525
would ejacualte on

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Guys, from the HH novels, I've read Legion, The First Heretic, Betrayer and A Thousand Sons.

Which one should be next?

>>53309393
Mechanicum

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>>53309490
I've heard is not that great, but I'll put it on the list.

The one I've actually heard good things is Angel Exterminatus though

>>53309393
I think the first trilogy are the best

>>53309393
The original trilogy
Prospero Burns - not everyone loves it, but it's an obvious choice if you've read A Thousand Sons
Angel Exterminatus
Brotherhood of the Storm/Scars/The Path of Heaven

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>>53309603
>Brotherhood of the Storm/Scars/The Path of Heaven

Somehting tells me you like the White Scars lol

And also thanks for the suggestions.

>>53309676
Only because of those books - I wasn't before. It's a well-written and mostly self-contained story arc, and Path of Heaven is also great if you're into the Emperor's Children as they become increasingly corrupted.

>>53309603
There's also Brotherhood of the Moon.

>>53307973
Really cool idea, I might even to it too

>>53309830
Yeah, if you want to include short storie then you've got, in chronological order:

>Brotherhood of the Storm (novella)
>Scars (novel)
>Allegiance (short story)
>Brotherhood of the Moon (short story)
>The Path of Heaven (novel)
>The Last Son of Prospero (short story)

Is Revuel Arvida in the short story 'Rebirth' too? If so, read that after Prospero Burns and before Scars. He's not a White Scar but fits into this arc.

>>53307973
Anon, I think you've made a mistake, one of those legions isn't a traitor. I mean, everybody knows iron warriors can only be played as loyalists.

>>53310165
Oh my god I just actually spoiled my self.
I'm an idiot.
At least I liked the spoiler.

Is Revuel Arvida becoming Janus

>>53307973
>he still has the legion symbols on the wrong shoulder

>>53310250
I've heard of armour autism, and seen a few cases of bolter autism but this takes the cake.

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Let's have this again, I guess.

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>>53310303
Speaking of armor autism... I want Mk II bike and jetbike riders, and Kromlech makes good-enough legs. Torsos aren't a problem either, but arms are. How bad would Mk IV arms be with Mk II torsos, pauldrons, and heads, and these riding legs?

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>>53310369
Thanks, that pic is pretty good

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Guys, I made this. I know it's a 40k bolter and not 30k, but I thought you'll like it anyways
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mapDfXiVLBI

>>53310553
Honestly, I don't think anyone would notice if you used MkIVs. Also, just as a heads up, the GW DA Ravenwing Command/Black Knights bikes come with MkII arms for each rider. Not sure if you can get those bits on their own, but I thought I'd give you the heads up anyway.

>>53310816
Interesting, thanks! I won't spend a fortune on them, but I'll definitely take a look.

>>53309393
Prospero burns, goes in a natural sequence with ATS

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I've discovered that this 1/144 scale Dora railway gun has almost the exact same dimensions as the Ordinatus Minoris engines. Given it's quite cheap, £50, I might have a crack at converting one into a massive piece of Reductor artillery.
Any ideas about what would be good to tack onto it (or give it a proper means of movement, because RAILWAY gun), and are the Ordinatii any good tabletop? I just have the dimensions Shas put up that one time and think the idea of the Ordinatii are fuckawesome.

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>>53298374
is this the worst plastic value gw has give us?
>one pose
>can move head
>only 2 guns and 1 madatory claw
>60 doll hairs

>>53311421
Pretty much, I can't think of a single situation in which you're not better off just buying another Calth box.

>>53311510
not to mention the pose is dreadfully boring

>>53311421
What price would you realistically give to that kit?

>>53311547
35-40

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First crack at a volkite charger conversion. Its certainly not FW quality, but for a first try greenstuff press-mould I think it could've come out worse. While I paint this one up I'll be making a second mould to see if I can get it in a bit sharper detail.

>Loyalist EC chaplain is now ded killy

>>53311547
$28 best I can do

>>53311421
the head doesn't even move unless they changed that for the individual kit

Honestly, I get that it was meant to be a cheap sprue for BaC, but they could've at least separated the head and/or torso. At least then you could give it some degree of variety without resorting to chopping it apart and greenstuff.

>>53311547
A complete FW Contemptor is 54 GBP (US$70). The plastic one should be limited to 60% of that because of how lousy it is, so... $42 US.

>show up for Horus Heresy tournament
>your opponent pulls out his Eldar army
>this is allowed by the Age of Darkness rules and the tournament didn't explicitly prohibit it
What would you do?

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>>53311920
>playing 30/40k competitively

>>53311255
It won't be easy to make it look convincing... everything's spindly for 28mm, and there's no good place for controls (not that there's an obvious crew compartment on the FW Minoris). It's also a ton of assembly. But it could look great!

>>53300363
Why are you namefagging, you're no where near as good as Al or Shas

>>53311920
Hunker down and get ready to blow the knife-ears out of the sky.

Ave Omnissiah!

>>53312048
Yeah, that's the obvious problem. Was thinking of doing something with an Abeyant/Sector Mechanicus and that back-top platform for controls. That greenstuff pipe maker could help a bit for bulking it up some with admechy cables and such. I'll draw a couple plans.

>>53310808
Pretty cool! Looks like the green needs a second thin coat of paint, though.

>>53312323
The Abeyant/Sector Mechanicus bits can help give it some flavor. If you need thicker railings, metal rods cut to size might help beef it out.

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Excuse the thickness of the primer underneath; just a test model for my future IF.

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>>53312846
THIIIIIIIIIIICCCC

But in all seriousness, the color is good.

No offense, but judging by the detail work and scratching, you seem fairly new. If you wanna make the yellow better, remember a light darting spray coat is the best route, not holding it close to the miniature with none/little motion.

As for other details, you might wannna consider watching some of St. Duncan's stuff, he's a good guide for weathering, color contrast, and getting a 'nice, fine tip on yah brush'

>>53313084
Honestly it's just the super thicccccc primer underneath. This was test number....5???

Can I use Marines 2.0 as a Survivors of a Dark Age + X Imperial Militia and Cult army unit?

>>53312846
>Using IF command set model as a 'test' for my future army

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>53313319
It's even worse than using Mk VIII armor.

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>>53307750
>Death Guard status:
B
T
F
O'd
Don't you love AP2 at I10, guise?

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>>53313718
>tfw this kills the Lewdtarion

>>53313581
It was free and a recast

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Yeah I was definitely right about the thickness. Hahah Fuck

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>>53307461
>>53307495
Sweet, thanks ECLanon! Its beefier than your proxy but definitely needs more wingspan to be respectable as a proxy. Much obliged and keep up the great painting! :)

>>53301640
Betrayer is about a World Eater/Word Bearer bromance. It's generally considered one of the best Warhammer novels.

>>53300483
>>53301210
Base those EC my friend.

>>53312846
Niger that's THICCer than my morning bowl of oatmeal

So is anyone else thinking of trying to convert those new Primaris Marines for 30k?

>>53314738
Why do some people think it's kosher to use mkX in 30k? It's like using mk8

>>53314708
You must have pretty runny food

>>53314783
I wasn't going to use them for 30K, but not because of the Mk X armour.

>>53314370
XTRA THICK

>>53314738
Looks like far too much effort for wow big marines such meme. Unless you're a really good greenstuff sculptor.
I mean, I'm going to get a box but not for 30K. I'm just trying to decide if I want to paint them as one chapter or do one each of several chapters I like.

>>53314561
>ECfag
>basing his models
We're lucky he took a new photograph so now he has 5 pics to post all the time instead of the usual 4.

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>>53315017
can't expect much of loyalists

>>53315002
Honestly I use my 30k army for 40k as well and honestly want to pick up a box for laughs.

MKX surrounded by nothing newer than MKII through IV

>>53315017
To be fair, I have more, but most of the time I'm either using one of the few group shots, or individuals when someone asks for an example.

>>53315418
I was just joshin ya

Asking for a friend, were the latest book screepcaps posted a few threads ago on Perturabo from that Hammer of Olympia book that's coming out in a few months time?

>>53315827
Nice try Laurie

>>53298374
Why are some colours perceived to be more difficult to layer than others? I understand white but why would yellow have thinner pigment than any other paint?

>>53316156
The pigmentation in yellow spreads less evenly than most other shades because it is thinner. Thinner pigment is always easier to leave marks with so multiple slightly thinned layers are best.

>>53316156

The yellow pigments are inherently not as opaque as many other colours. This means that even over just a slightly darker yellow you'll see brush streaks unless you're good at layering.

>>53316266
>>53316277
Why is yellow pigment so thin?

>>53316301
Vibrancy through yellow means intense pigmentation compaction, and doing that with paint makes it very thicccccccccc.

Multiple thin layers helps reduce this problem drastically and allows transitional buildup versus one clumpy overlay.

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>>53315827
I only wish they were...

>>53310369
The list doesn't really show how to follow the Legion or rather then entire Alpha Legion plotline

>>53316156
Because idiots prime in black, when they are painting a light mini.

This is probably 7 out of 10 people that complain about white and yellow.

>>53307313
You probably could have done a messier conversion on the Alpha's legs but I'm not sure how.

The colour choice seems fine though.

Hello, guys, how is this list look like?

Legion: Sons of Horus (Traitor)
RoW: the Long March

HQ:
Maloghurst the Twisted (140pts)
Consul (Siege Breaker) (95pts)

Elites:
Quad Launchers x2 (Phosphex, Shatter) (180pts)
Quad Launchers x2 (Phosphex, Shatter) (180pts)

Troops:
Legion Veteran Squad (Rhino, AA, Plasmagun x2) (235pts)
Legion Veteran Squad (Rhino, AA, Plasmagun x2) (235pts)
Legion Veteran Squad (Rhino, AA, Plasmagun x2) (235pts)

Fast:
Javelin Attack Speeder (Lascannon) (65pts)
Javelin Attack Speeder (Lascannon) (65pts)

Heavy:
Deredeo (Aiolos, Autocannon) (220pts)
Vindicator Squadron (x2, Laser Destroyer) (260pts)
Leviathan Talon (x2, Grav-flux, Siege Drill) (590pts)

Total 2500pts

>>53314370
Delete this.

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WIP Thunder Warriors.

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>>53317885
resized for the board.

>>53317885
>>53317921
>thunder warriors
>in mk3
>awful looking corrosion that looks like nurgle pissed on the rivets and edges of chestpiece, and nothing else
>moldlines

If you called them blackshields or one of the near-marine auxilia types i'd say yeah cool, but the only thing moderately thunder-warriorish is the sarge's head.

>>53318006
come on guy, they are Blackshields, the sarge has his sweet sweet mkI head and the fluff is old school Thunder Warriors and techno barbarians.

>>53317817
>>53317817
>the long march
>triple vets in rhinos
Maximum kek

its a good list, i feel like six regular quad launchers would be a better investment, phosphex is good but usually massive overkill against anything you're likely to see other than WE hordes. Two walking leviathans arent the greatest investment, you could get a superheavy or four rip'n'tear cortuses for that. I'm also not a fan of laser vindicators, but they do have a niche. Its a good generalist list, it might struggle against extremely focused lists such as fully-airborne lists and maximum infantry deathguard/WE, but those lists are designed to be hard to counter.

>>53318132
The thing is that the picture is mk3 blackshield marines and a veteran sergeant with a cool hat, not thunder warriors. If you want thunder warriors, make them wear mk1 armour, not the mk3 armour first made many years after they went extinct.

>>53318236
The thing is:

They are a Blackshields warband comprised of a combination of old school Thunder Warriors and astartes modified in a manner that makes them similar to techno-barbarians and Thunder Warriors.

>>53318236
It's all magnetized too, the sarges pistol, power fist and the Melta gun come off.

>>53318326
>old school thunder warriors
Are extinct, no ifs, buts or whoo-dahs. Others had the capability to make them, but then they're technobarbarians, not thunder warriors
>astartes modified to be similar to their predecessors
>technobarbarians from places other than earth
stick with these rather than shoehorning in an extinct species
also clean the moldline on top of the meltagun

>>53318550
Tomato Tomato. Potato Potato?

Techno-Barbarians, crudely augmented Astartes, it's all the same color of S5 T5 blackshields.

>>53318931
Why is crude version gives better result than advanced version augmentations??

>>53318971
Not as easily mass-produced, hase major side effects, doesnt last as long.

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>>53318971
Technobarbarians=/=Thunder Warriors=/=Astartes

You're trying to compare apples and kumquats here. While the Emperor used a decent amount of the same armor/weapon tech the tecnobarbarian tribes were using on Terra, iirc none of the technobarbarian tribes were remotely near the same level of gene-science the Emperor was. And even then, the Thunder Warriors were the Emperor's 'quick and dirty' super-soldier project from before he had the free time to set up a dedicated lab in the Himalayas: they had everything he needed to get the job done, but other than that weren't entirely stable, were designed with only fighting and raw power in mind, and intentionally given short life spans so they'd all die off not too long after the Emperor had conquered Terra. The Thunder Warriors were unique, on Terra and among human societies throughout the galaxy. Sure, other human societies had their own scientific advancements, gene-modifications, cybernetic augmentations, etc etc etc. But whether these societies were technobarbarians or legitimate armed forces, none compared to the Thunder Warriors or Astartes.

Thunder Warriors were crude, yes, but the reason they were 'better' than Astartes was that they were built 100% for combat. They were never meant to function outside of battle. They were savage, raw power, meant to cut a bloody swathe across Terra in an age of brutality. Astartes were toned down in terms of sheer power by giving them other qualities that would make them more valuable to the Imperium in the long run.Yes, Astartes were warriors too, but the majority of them can function outside of a battlefield as well. While an Astartes is at home on the battlefield, they are also capable and can even find interest in other fields. By comparison, Thunder Warriors were effectively super-powered human Orks: brutish warmongers who excel in combat, but that is the only thing they truly understand.

Looking to get into HH with a pride of legion, terminator heavy, SoH army. I would like to know how allowable it is if I paint everything black to go with my BL army for 40k? Justaerians and reavers do have black armor in fluff, but first company information does exist past that.

>>53320041
Honestly no one will mind at all. If you want to, go for it. Every army is your own.

Everything basically goes in 30k; I've already played against Ultramarines that were all back save for one shoulder and knee pad. Anything works.

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It's time.

>>53320041
I'd maintain some sea green elements in shoulder pads and stuff like that

>>53314370
Even tho recast, pls dettol the shit out of this nigger and then yourself

>>53320294
You've got problems busy.

It's a model.

You're a faggot.

Get on with it.

>>53314370
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>>53320294
>>53320307
Samefag.

No one cares about that model

>>53320307
>>53320294
Samefaging this hard

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So these guys are my first completed HH squad.

>>53320894
Hmmm too much bronze for me. Bolters still need lots of work and the rocks in the bases need paintwork

>>53320894
You have mostly a basecoat and some highlighting, the middle marine has black bleeding over into the bronze.

clean up the detail, wash and then highlight further.

>>53320978
The bolters look better in person, I tried color correcting but as you can see the white decals still look blue. The bolters are P3 frostbite that's been highlighted with white and has a bit of grey shading on it.

>>53320987
They've been washed multiple times with nuln oil already to the point that it's looking a little thick in some areas. I'll clean up that little bit of black bleeding though.

>>53321008
You've got to focus it around the rivets and stuff, its more than spreading it around on the model, you need to direct the washes where you want color to collect.

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>>53321008
For the record this is what it looks like when I do some more extreme white balance correcting, but that makes everything look really harsh

>>53321018
The bases still need work. There are also some mistakes made when applying silver which touched black parts but that's easy to fix

>>53321071
I personally like the look of the rocks as is. What are you suggesting I do with them?

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>>53321082
I don't know anon, I usually do urban bases but at least paint the plastic base brown or something like that, keeping it black looks like it not being finished.
Here are some of my dudes as an example of how I like the bases. It's just personal opinion

>>53321112
Fucking hell 4 mb I hate phoneposting. How do I resize it from my phone?

I guess it depends a lot on where I'm from though

Here rocks look like that, I live in an area with a lot of sand and clay and so you often find rocks like the ones on the bases, so a lot of my friends say they really like the basing.

>>53321112

Ah, I see. Yeah I've done bases before where I've painted the rim and I just don't like the look of it. Looks much cleaner to keep it black, I repainted them black to cover up errant brushstrokes.

Lots of sweet modelling itt i love you guys
>ECfag added a 5th photo to his stock rotation he's been showing for a year.
>A wild IF fag showed up and displayed high skill in being able to paint a really THICC THICC OH GOD WHY DIDN'T YOU STOP nice yellow.
>ThunderWarriorFaggot showed his guys and they're horrendously painted Mark IIIs well that was worth the build up.
>Newfag IH appeared and they were quite nice even if their owner is better at painting than operating a cameraphone
>If you're going to put little rocks on your bases, do something with them, says a WBfag with no rocks on his bases, proving we always live up to the stereotypes of our legions

>>53309393
CHaos warlord! Hnnnghhh

>>53321223
Yeah sadly my real phone broke a few weeks ago and I'm using a cheap android that barely qualifies as such

>>53321223
Oh god, my shit looks fine and are even labeled WIP. Your bias is disturbing.

How long once Primaris Space Marines are released will we see the first 30k conversions?

>>53321271
I'm immediately cutting some apart for my sergeant's/Reaver Lords.

>>53321223
What can I say? I'm a proud son of Lorgar :^)

>>53321271
I kinda want to use one of their weird mkiv head bits for an alpharius conversion, since i lack confidence in my mohawk greenstuff skillz

>>53321122
Just edit them on your computer. I use paint to resize my images. But getting a good camera is also a good idea. I have to use my Iphone and the quality is garbage.

>>53321298
They clearly intended for them to be the box you buy for your True-Scale conversions, armor that is comprised of all the best components from the previous armor mk's is clearly for kit bashing.

>>53321122
Use this:

http://resizeimage.net/

But yeah I'm moving soon and can't afford to spend the money just to upgrade my camera so for now I'm taking iron hands pictures with a potato and I'll have to live with that

I'm moving to Richmond which is like 2 hours away from NOVA so that'll be neat.

>>53318550
Well the Thunder Warriors are not extinct, you follow a few survivors in one of the novels.

>>53321320
I think only the heads and shoulder pads are compatible with regular SM kits (so you can use regular SM conversion kits with them, because for some reason GW hates money now and doesn't want to sell whole new upgrade kits for the primarines).

>>53321312
that's what I usually do but I am at the library without my computer at the moment

>>53321342
The legs require the heaviest bit of conversion in my opinion. I would probably file down the eagles on the torsos and leave the arms as is.

But yeah, thanks for pointing out sections where colors bleed together. Part of the reason I take pictures of everything is because I have really bad vision and have a hard time seeing in person where stuff like that happens, I can only really see it when blown up in a picture.

>>53321326
Thanks anon!

>>53321369
The legs look like MkIII. Round knee pads, solid plate on the front and segmented plates on the back.

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>>53321377
Call me:

ThunderWarriorfag

>>53321381
You are right, perhaps filling in the gaps on the thigh portion of the armor and adding MKIII esque lips to the calf plating would make for easy converting.

Don't worry anon, soon it will be retconned that bigmarines took part in the siege of terra and you won't have to do conversions.

>>53321413
>adding shitty FW-esque lips

True MkII/III has abutted plates. FW's flared pants are terrible.

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>>53316880
Here you go, just for you I added all the links that connect the alpha legion stories.

Fuck you Forge World... fuck you!

Just release the damn Custodes termies already, we know you're hiding them back there!

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>>53321432
Oh! I see, MKX could be an interesting source for converting the old styles of MKII-III.

>>53321456
Cheeky, I like it

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>>53309393
I liked Master of Mankind, but is a little tricky to read, you have to understand some things a certain way

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Power weapons in 8th. As expected.

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Chainswords in 8th. Not as expected.

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Power fists in 8th. Slightly not as expected, think people were expecting D6 damage.

They also confirmed that force weapons are power weapons with D3 damage. They also said that the imperial knight's reaper chainsword does a flat 6 damage each time it wounds, so that's the ballpark we're looking at for D weapons I guess.

>>53321912
This. I didn't realize that he only says one word in the entire book until someone here clued me in (still liked it anyway).

>>53322544
If you mean the Emperor then youre flat wrong.

>>53322377
I'm not sure I like maces wounding the sane as axes.

>>53322561
lern tu reed

Seriously though, didn't Big E himself say to Ra (in one of the dream sequences) that he wasn't talking, at least not with his mouth?

>>53323085
>he wasn't talking, at least not with his mouth?
So that's why he sounds like a dick. That's... talented ;^)

>>53322412
>D caused 6 wounds (at least)
>TL weapons are gone, now it's just two shots
>have a Falchion
>12+8D6 wounds

My nipples!

>>53323270
>pragmatic
>millennia older than literally any human alive
>near single-handedly cobbles together the largest or possibly second largest human realm in the history of the species
>uncovers ancient secrets
>creates ageless superhumans as companions
>negotiates treaties with Mars and Saturn
>"incompetent"
>"dick"
>"hurr im butthurt teh emprah isnt emotionally invested in the tools im fangasming over, y r they not father son!?!?!"

So fucking triggered you guys have no fucking idea

>>53323544
I was implying He can speak through His Imperial Dick through sheer psychic power, but I like your thinking as well

>>53323593
I'd reply but I'm still twitching. The fact that anyone can seriously think the Emperor is incompetent is insane. An incompetent person is someone who can't do their job, not someone who has his tool fuck up his crib and lay waste to his work.

Do you guys ever use non-skyfire units to shoot at flyers?

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On the topic of primaris conversions, why does the sergeant have a bigger base than the other Marines?

>>53324394
Secutarii Hoplites get themselves BS2 snapshots when their Hazard Protocols are on, AKA all the time, so they're surprisingly good at it with an Omnispex for -1 to Jink and 12 Haywire shots. I imagine Krios Venators and such wouldn't be terrible either, but sadly I don't have any of those because they are as expensive as all get out.

>>53324485
Because it's a captain.

>>53323661
>>53323544
You feel triggered and identified with him because both of you suffer from autism

>>53322377
Halo blades are going to be the tits.

>>53322412
Power Scythes and Phoenix Spears BTFO'd.

>>53325522
>>53325522
>>53325522
New Bread going up!