Warhammer 40k general /40kg/

nth for fluffy armies
I hope we aren't forced to take 3 troop choices just to have 3 optional heavy, elite and fast attack slots.

>>53285751
I'd be fine with this if they brought back "X character/wargears turns X unit into troop choices" but they probably won't.

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second for plastic sisters

>>53285762
>On death row
Guard
>What would you like to eat?
Fa/tg/guy
>Plastic sisters
Guard
>lol no we are never making them, how about a new tau tau suit?

>>53285760
It sounds better than making new FoCs for each army just to allow special things.

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>>53285781
>lol no we are never making them, how about a new tau tau suit?

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>>53285714
Do you think Rubrics and Berzerkers have difficulty with doors?

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This any good?

The Dark Angel's flaw is a deep rooted manlust.

>>53285819
What do you define as good? Because by any metric most 40k books are hot garbage, and this one is no exception.

>>53285812
>berzerkers
implying they ever care about walking through a door and not charging right through it or ripping it off to use as a makeshift melee weapon
>rubrics
I mean, they could like open it using psyker abilities maybe

>>53285829
I enjoy 40k books. Based off what you said, the question would be if this is worse than usual?

>>53285828
I too enjoy spamming forced memes.

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So how would you build and fluff an army based on pic related?

>>53285829
is helsreach any good
read it when I was younger and thought it was pretty neat
what about yarrick, pyres of armageddon, thought that wasn't bad either

On a side note, are there any good alpha legion books. Their fluff seems cool with them being not really chaos but with their own agenda and alpharius/omegon seem pretty cool

chaos manlet marines...nice

>>53285852
I too enjoy being a triggered faggot angels player

>>53285832
I figure they can use door handles,it's the fancy hats I see as a potential problem
>>53285860
Chaos will always look taller because fancy hats

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>Current state of the 40k playerbase

>>53285857
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D4jr-0_COg

Helsreach is amazing.

>>53285864
Well, you can do that on reddit instead, considering that's where your spammed meme comes from.

>>53285819
I've read the whole thing, and it absolutely is. It may be one of the only books that didn't feature a token strong independent female character.

It takes place before the Newcrons, and yes, they are in this book. So they play the role of unknown horrors beyond the abilities of even Chaos. It actually has a surprisingly diverse amount of factions present. We see Imperial Guard, Mechanicus, Dark Eldar, Tyranids, and even Genestealer Cults. Not to mention Chaos. But mostly it's a story about a Host of Word Bearers going off on an epic quest that I won't spoil for you.

I will say this: Half the first book of the trilogy details the life of an average citizen starting from his daily commute and ending with him dying a cultist of the Word Bearers.

It was definitely one of the most memorable 40k books just because of how different it is.

>>53285873
Explain.

Does anyone else find the 40k M41 setting incredibly boring compared to the Horus Heresy? In 30k you have characters with goals and drives. There are interesting grudges. The legions have lots of character and variation beyond the one-note chapter caricatures. In 40k it's just a bunch of emotionless robots punching each other forever with no purpose. The Imperium never actually does anything.

>>53285880
"they" being the Necrons, not the Newcrons*

>>53285878
Dark Angels being faggots predates reddit.

>>53285884
Grimdarkness being engulfed by Noblebrightness. Some are pissed, some are happy.

Didn't think the metaphor would be too deep to grasp.

>>53285899
Ah yes, because Dakka Dakka is a much more respectable website.

>>53285907
It's hard coded into their fluff my man.
As long as there has been Dark Angels there has been faggot jokes.

>>53285900
I'd say things are only Nobledark so far, let's see how the Indomitus Crusade goes.

>>53285900
I don't think it's noblebright that's coming. More like Nobledark.

>>53285894
>boring marine wank ad infinitum
Pass.

>>53285880
Sounds cool, thanks man.

>>53285848
No, it tends to fit the mold. I don't particularly care about Chaos though, so you may like it better if you do.

>>53285857
The audiobook of Helsreach was good.

>>53285852

I too enjoy how DAngelfags have to give them (You)'s every fucking time instead of just ignoring them.

>>53285919
>As long as there has been Dark Angels there has been faggot jokes.
*As long as there have been forced memes and unfunny retards

>muh lionel jonson gay poem
The poem was about resisting sin, it does not mention homosexuality
>muh rock gay bar
Oh boy, a generic name shares a name with another generic name, what a surprise!
>muh plasma guns
Tell me, what's the best ranged weapon for cutting down power armored troops?

No matter how much you force this, it does not work.

>>53285924
>I don't think it's noblebright that's coming
Oh come on even without Primaris Marines, 2/3 of GoS was noblebright, Aeldari easily btfo all chaos shit, Robbie on easy-mode btfo Black Crusade

>>53285947
> have to give them (You)'s every fucking time instead of just ignoring them

It's just those two autists my man. Give us some credit. Cypherposting gets everyone though.

>>53285894
>The legions have lots of character
they really don't

30k can be interesting for the pseudo-historical angle, but black library's been doing its best to ruin that. And as the imperial armour books have proven, you can just as easily get the same sort of appeal out of 40k.

>>53285894
To attempt to take an objective view of the situation is impossible, both settings have merits.
Horus Heresy:
>Shows the backstory of Imperium which is pretty cool
>Has neat human tech and human subfactions
>The civil war itself is pretty cool
>More unified setting
40k
>More races than various flavour of space marines (no matter how diverse these flavours are, people want xenos)
>We already know how the horus heresy ended so for some people it seems pointless to play
>interactions between xenos, chaos and imperium is well done in some cases
>A more split up setting allows for more creativity in campaign creation, allies and "your dudes"

I mean both games seem pretty cool, it's just that 40k appeals to a wider audience since it has a wider variety of playable factions

>>53285920
>>53285924
Eh, that's not the impression I got from the Gathering Storm books. I'm keen for 8th as a game, not so much the fluff so far.

>>53285979
My dudes are pretty much the big reason I never cared about HH. They're part of The Unforgiven, so I have to know about it, but it's always been history to me.

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>>53285983
>In the noble brightness of the far future, there is only war

>>53285950
>*As long as there have been forced memes and unfunny retards

It's not forced when it's a tradition dating back to before you were born.

>The poem was about resisting sin

It was about Johnson resisting his homo lust.

>No matter how much you force this, it does not work.

But it does otherwise you wouldn't have bothered replying and desperately tried to have insisted that gay jokes are reddit territory.

Just bend over you dress wearing faggot.

>>53285812
>>53285832

>Rubrics aren't the psykers. Rubrics are the robots.

In which case, apparently they are still capable of most rote functions, like opening doors or beating people to death with their boltguns.

>>53285999
>It was about Johnson resisting his homo lust.
Surely you have proof of this? Did Johnson ever state that? It's never mentioned in the poem.

>>53285714
Any readable books with nightlords?

>>53286011
I was the guy who answered, so I assumed that when he lumped them together he meant rubric marines like berzerkers are extra khornate marines.
I don't play 1ksons so idk anything about them

>>53286023
The Night Lords omnibus is generally considered one of the better 40k novels.

>>53285999
>u-ur underage!
Ok?
>i-it's about g-g-gays I-I swear!
You realize that pushing narratives doesn't work unless you have cold hard facts right? Once again, the poem never mentions homosexuality. It mentions resistance to sin, which can translate in the lore to resisting chaos
>m-my jokes a-are funny! u-ur gay!
Thank you for your intelligent contribution.

I've been thinking about the new big guys a bit, I really like the models but I think that the fluff need quite a bit of clarification. Like how and where were they trained? How are they distributed to the different chapters? How are they recieved by the chapters? How are the chapter masters told about them? How do the older space marines feel about this development?

>>53286023

Nightlords Omnibus. Surprisingly, it's generally considered one of the good ones, or at least not as bad.

>>53286023
The Night Lords trilogy was pretty readable to me, but if you're not a fan of that the new book Blood Tithe is selling like hot cakes, and having looked up who exactly the Carcharadons are, I'm convinced that this book is going to be good.

>>53286020
Of course it's not in the fucking poem, it was written at a time when being gay would get you locked up you fucking moron.

Look, sure if you're actually autisitc that's fine, just don't have this conversation. Any time we're having to deal with metaphor or contextual cues is going to be difficult for you.

So, I'm thinking about maybe converting my Black Templars a bit--just to drum up something new and interesting (to me anyways).

Is it so farfetched to say that the Black Templars might consider Primaris Space Marines as heretics--something like "not created in the vision of the Emperor" or "false sons of the Emperor"? Or maybe even consider Roboute Guilliman as a false idol or a usurper of the golden throne--what with how the lore seems to be going?

How would I go about portraying that on my Black Templars?

Any ideas?

I don't hate true scale marines and I'm even considering a couple boxes of them as allies for my Cadians. Don't kill me.

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>>53284086
>Leman Russ' gene-seed
>Primaris Wulfen
Oh god please no...

>>53286040
8th edition will sort that out
Primaris marines were distributed to bring chapters back to full strength or something like that
8th will answer all your other questions once it comes out

>>53286046
pretty readable is not that great of a review

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It's good because it took so long.

>>53286062
Yeah, I can imagine that quite a few good scenarios and storys to come out of this.

>>53286051
>the author was gay so the poem must be about gays
So I assume every single piece of art by a homosexual must be about homosexuality then?
>a-autism!
Ok.

>>53286052
Most people like the Primaris Marines, anon. Vocal minority and all that.

>>53286066
40k isn't high literature. It's well written for what it is. Despite the memes ABD is the best writer BL has.

>>53286026
Nah I assume he meant zerkers and robots.
Those being things which might have trouble with doorhandles.

>>53286058
>Primaris Fenrisian Wolf Pack
Yes please

>>53286074
White scars get their shipment
>old marine sergeant
"Alright men, time for a bike attack"
>Primaris marine
"Uhhh, This bike is too small, can I get a bigger one?"

>>53286092
Everybody loves the Primaris Marines as far as the models go.
The people who find them retarded as fuck in the lore aren't a vocal minority.

>>53286051
>I have no evidence for my personal interpretation of the poem
>I-I'll call him a-autistic if he disagrees with me

Who here is expecting a new tau fmc suit that is effectively going to be a flying riptide?
XV106 Meteor suit anyone?

>>53286101
>Despite the memes ABD is the best writer BL has.
No. The best authors are typically one-and-done, or stuck doing short stories forever.

presumably because they haven't been contaminated yet

>>53286036
>Ok?

I didn't imply you were under age though. It's literally that old.

>It mentions resistance to sin

Johnson's sin being he was a big poof.

>Thank you for your intelligent contribution.

Is your butt literally or only figuratively hurt?

>>53286125
Can you recommend some of them?

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>>53285714
>Yipes, the Blood Angels sound like they are in trouble.

>>53286126
>Johnson's sin being he was a big poof.
See >>53286075
>u-ur b-b-butthurt!
Thank you for your intelligent contribution.

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>>53286138
>Yipes

>>53286058
It opens up a fucking shitshow. There are going to be SUPER-Marines with the Red Thirst and Wulfen (which nearly had the entire planet destroyed because Dangles confused them with Chaos beasts). Hell, even normally stable chapters may start showing some problems. Salamanders may start having bone growth like that one successor, Dangles may turn into renegade chaos pirates like Huron, and so on.

>>53286126
>Johnson's sin being he was a big poof
How do you know? Did he have no vices?

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>>53286148
>Yipes

>>53286149
>Dangles may turn into renegade chaos pirates like Huron
Are you retarded? How does piracy have anything to do with their geneseed?

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>>53286156
>Yipes

>>53286075
No not every piece of artwork by a gay person is about being gay, you know how we can tell? Fucking context

DARK Angel, with thine aching lust
To rid the world of penitence:
Malicious Angel, who still dost
My soul such subtile violence!

The first fucking stanza is literally spelling out the problem

>>53286118
The poem is well established as being about his struggle with being both gay and a catholic.

The commentary about possible autism comes from here:
>It's never mentioned in the poem.
which demonstrates a clear lack of understanding about how metaphor works, no understanding of the context of the poem and a difficulty with theory of mind (i.e: other people can and do think differently to me)

>>53286146
This might be a hard load for you to swallow as a Dark Angel fan but swallow it you must.
A Dark Angel fan who can't protect himself from getting his feelings buggered by a gay joke is like a Space Wolf fan who can't take a bestiality joke.

>>53286122
>I'll take "what is the Y'vahra, Alex"

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Tau-XV109-Y-Vahra-Battlesuit

>>53286164
That one was a joke.

>>53286136
I'm a fan of matthew farrer
simon spurrier is also top tier

Well, top tier as far as "warhammer tie in novel authors" goes, at least.

>>53286176
The Y'vahra isn't a proper fmc though
it's a jump pack infantry unit that can become a fmc with a nova roll
Also I'd assume the new fmc suit would also take up a hq slot and belong to a new mont'ka commander that isn't farsight

>>53286168
>with thine aching lust
Lust does not always imply sexual lust. He was also an alcoholic. Who's to say the lust is not alcoholism or general excess?
>The poem is well established as being about his struggle with being both gay and a catholic.
By who? You?

>>53286174
>j-just t-t-take m-my f-f-force m-meme already!
I reserve no obligation to accept your unfunny humor and never will. Come back to me when you have an original or even vaguely entertaining joke.

>>53286174
In his defense, you're being a bit of an autist about it. This is like two threads in a row. Jokes don't tend to be funny when you repeat them constantly.

>>53286168
>The poem is well established as being about his struggle with being both gay and a catholic
By whom?

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>>53286168
>The poem is well established as being about his struggle with being both gay and a catholic.

so... DA struggle with being lusty for heresy while beeing super loyal at the same time!

>>53286164
Their is no women on the high sea.

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Can someone explain this to me?

>>53286191
>>j-just t-t-take m-my f-f-force m-meme already!

When will you accept that it's not forced? Dark Angels being associated with homolust is no different than Ultramarines being associated laurels.

>>53286191
>>j-just t-t-take m-my f-f-force m-meme already!
Holy fuck it's the same sperg who flipped out in that other thread when someone made an offhand one-line joke about DA being traitors.

>>53286167
>These guys get in a lot of trouble.

>>53286107
The whites scars should try to put the primaris marines in the side car of their attack bikes. Imagine the big guys trying to operate a heavy bolter mounted too low for them.

>>53286224
So you're going to ignore the fact that your pseudo-meme has no standing and are now just resorting to appeals to an invisible popular opinion? How interesting.

>>53286230
Thank you for your intelligent contribution.

>>53286230
DA aint traitors. they want to taste sweet heresy but are forbidden by their love for the emperor. their like the man-brides of the emperor.

>>53286198
I always figured it was more about the Lion personally than his entire chapter, his lust for power (specifically the title of warmaster) which contrasted with his loyalty to the Emperor. That chaos demon was totally convinced that he would be able to convert him to chaos by giving him the position of chaos' 'warmaster'.

That's just my interpretation of it though, I could be wrong.

>>53286244
You realize you sound incredibly delirious and repressed when you make posts like this, right?

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>>53286237
>Is totally the same sperg.
>But with more sperg.

>>53286202
this meme started off as a shit-tier pasta
Now it's my favourite 40k meme from 2017 so far

>>53286202
vehicles are becoming monstrous creature-alikes
fabius bile has a weapon that immediately kills things that have wounds

something he probably won't retain in 8e, but jokes don't have to make sense

>>53286261
Thank you for your intelligent contribution.

>>53286237
>So you're going to ignore the fact that your pseudo-meme has no standing

Nah, it has plenty standing which is why it's such an old joke. It's not forced because it naturally recurs down the years when people recognize the origin of the Dark Angels.

Why does this bother you so? Did you just not know and are now ashamed of choosing the gay marines?

>>53286247
yeah, I always got this "preach water, desire but dont drink wine" vibe from the Lion.

Cegorachi meme hasn't come here yet either actually.

>>53286237
>>53286256
Not for nothing dude but you really do come off as irredeemably autistic when you keep making ass-blasted and overly verbose posts like this. The trolls will stop making "dark angels are gay/traitors" jokes when you stop being so entertaining to them by immediately losing your cool every time and making a scene over it.

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>>53286268
Have some more, anon

>>53286202
Ok, here's a quick rundown
>Dark gods bow to Fabius Bile
>In contact with old ones
>Possess psyker-like abilities
>Controls the warp with an iron but fair fist
>Own cities & fortresses universally
>Direct descendants of the emperor's blood line
>Will bankroll the first cities in the dark imperium (Bileangrad will be be the first city)
>Own 99% of DNA editing research facilities in the universe
>First female marines will in all likelihood be Bile marines
>said to have 215+ IQ, such intelligence on Earth has only existed deep in Tibetan monasteries & Area 51
>Ancient earthen scriptures tell of an angel who will descend upon Earth and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented technological progress with them
>He owns nanite producing forge worlds around the universe
>All chapter masters likely have Bilebots inside them right now
>He learned fluent Ork in under a week
>Planets entrust their protheium reserves with Bile. There’s no gold on planet mars, only planet Bile
>Bile is about 200,000 years old, from the space-time reference point of the base human currently accepted by human society
>In reality, he is a timeless being existing in all points of time and space from the big bang to the end of the universe. We don’t know his ultimate plans yet. We hope he's a benevolent being.

>>53286271
No, thank You for your casual autism, the source of so much joy in our lives.

>>53286275
>i-it h-h-has evidence, i-i'm j-just n-n-not giving i-it to y-you!
Ok?
>still appealing to a nonexistent popular opinion
Ok?
>u-ur ashamed!
Thank you for your intelligent contribution.

>>53286283
There is nothing overly verbose about my posts. Neither am I offended nor upset. I am simply annoyed by unfunny humor and constant attempts at shoving an idea down the collective throats of this thread.

>>53286270
lel this is actually hilarious, thanks.

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>caring about the lore

>>53286307
>darkangelsplayers.jpg

>>53286300
>Dark Angel player ashamed of the dark secret of his chapter
>Mercilessly hunts those that know the secret and tries to imprison them in the reddit dungeons

>>53286332
Except that this is neither a secret, nor the truth, nor funny.

>>53286300
>There is nothing overly verbose about my posts.
>he says, continuing to talk in the tell-tale 'no-one-really-talks-like-this-except-pretentious-autists-trying-to-sound-smart-on-the-internet' manner.
Self-awareness, my man.

>>53286351
Have you never once in your life ever heard a speech before? Are you really so naive that you consider formal writing to be "pretentious"?

>>53286350
Are you a faggot of the inner circle?

>>53286350
I can independently confirm that it's funny.

>>53286367
Formal writing on a fucking anonymous image board is pretentious as fuck, and if you weren't autistic you would have realized this by now, unless you're still a fucking teenager

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>>53286167
>>53286156
>>53286148
>>53286138

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FAQ tomorrow people.

>>53286376
This actually made me laugh really hard for reasons I can't explain

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>>53286287

>>53286287
delicious, anymore?
I could eat this meme all day

>>53286381
How likely is the chance this will just be an hour of "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"?

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There is NOTHING gay about Dark Angels.

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>>53286401

>>53286407
Not terribly, they'll have moderators out the ass in the chat and tons of normies who eat up everything regardless of whether its good or bad.

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>>53286277
It's one of the reasons I like Dark Angels so much, they've got a pretty consistent theme I can get behind with their Catholic trappings. Something that turns most people away after they read into it a little more. I also love how the Interrogator-Chaplains, with the exception of Asmodai who is actually fucking insane, are so filled with a desire to have the Fallen legitimately repent that they stop feeling hate or disgust but just genuine pity and something resembling love. They want them to find forgiveness in the eyes of The Lion, and doing so is considered their most important achievement.

>>53286300
I'm going to help you out here mate. If you stop replying to the joke, eventually they'll stop, they do it to get a rise out of Dark Angels players. It's only gotten worse since you started posting. It's the same shit as Furries and Space Wolves, or Blood Angels and their primarch being dead, or blood angels and their chapter being doomed (except this is true), or Ultramarines having a Codex compliant stick up their ass.

>>53286371
Thank you for your intelligent contribution.
>>53286371
One person definitely accounts for this entire general's opinion.
>>53286379
I'm sorry if you're too used to "le KEK le MAYMAYS XD". I only write formally when making an argument, and cease when not making one.

>>53286410
Shit, I've been an unforgiven for this long and I never knew we where the Chapter of /u/. No wonder SoB have such synergy with us.

>>53286191
>>53286195
G. A. Cevasco (Three decadent poets) and Ian Fletcher (the collected poems of Lionel Jonson: Interpretations)
> Inb4 appeal to authority

>>53286423
please stop filling the thread with autism just because somebody told a joke you didn't enjoy

>>53286459
Yeah, that's just gay.

>>53286443
matching robes helps too

>>53286457
How are either legitimate authorities that can be trusted as holding the popular consensus?

>>53286459
>please stop pointing out that this joke has been repeatedly forced for the last month and no one save the group forcing it finds it funny
Fixed.

>>53286113
Yes, they are.

>>53286459
you say this like you didn't enjoy his performance. i find it quite entertaining.

>>53286473
they are Art critics and biographers, you are sealioning fuck off

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IT'S NOT GAY IF I SAY ITS NOT

>>53286478
As vocal as the shills who pretend the lore is perfectly fine.

>>53286473
It's not that the joke itself is that funny (subjective oppinion and all that) its the sperging reactions to it.

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>>53286467
>Sisters! We have defeated the damned traitor legions! Does this event not make you wish to frolic together? Excellent, now announce your love for one another just like in one of my comics produced by the Battle-Cousins of the White Scars.

>>53286478
The ocean of salt posted all over the three facebook posts about mega-marines (you know, the remaining shit the mods let through) seems to say otherwise.

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>>53286506

>>53286491
Plenty of critics are poorly educated and poorly founded. See Piero Scaruffi or Robert Christgau.

>>53286502
>pretending to be retarded
The rabbit hole gets deeper.

>>53286423
Which immediately marks you as the kind of insecure autist who can't make arguments with natural ease and is nervous they'll be challenged on their points if they don't present them in a formal manner. I see this shit all the time. It's sad. You're used to arguing with the kind of retards who will grammar nazi your arguments in lieu of having an actual response, and worse, you probably emulate those people, considering the academic air you try to bring to your speech and the implied sense of superiority you get from doing so. You care more about presentation than substance, which only convinces other autists who are rigidly locked into following certain "rules" of argumentation and immediately gives you away to the people who value substance over presentation - ie, the ones who actually know what the fuck they're talking about.

I'm doing you a favor here by pointing this out now, where you can't lose any face because we're all anon and this whole discussion will be forgotten about by everyone including me in a matter of days, but for you this is a good time to realize that coming off as an asshat when you talk isn't actually an advantage, it's feeding your emotional desire to feel superior while in fact making you look like a fool to anyone else who is actually intelligent you discourse with. You can be academically smart but it doesn't mean shit if you don't have the social intelligence to go with it.

This is totally unrelated to the whole "Dark Angels are gay hurrr" argument you and the other anon are having, I couldn't give two shits about the result of that.

>>53286507
Vocal minority is often loud enough to seem like the majority.

>>53286502
The joke wasn't funny, and the guy posting them is too heavy handed to really make good humor, but the other guy's reactions have gone from funny, to sad, and back to funny.

>>53286525
I think it's going back to sad again.

>>53286518
I use both presentation and substance in my arguments. I have repeatedly proven my opponents wrong without resorting to obvious logical fallacies, and have not used any sort of pretentious superiority to attempt to portray myself as an authority figure. All of this is suspiciously enough created by you. I recommend you cease your baseless allegations before looking like an even bigger fool than the idiots attempting to justify their poor humor.

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>>53286367
I used to be this. I used to believe formal writing was a standard thing.

A little while in /tg/ taught me new ways to meme, but I was unchanged.

Then they started leaking 8th and now only the words 'cuck' and 'autist' can truly describe my feelings.

So, I'm sorry that you still feel this way. Soon you will learn.
Also fucking kys dangle sperg

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>>53286536
now I'm sad too.

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>>53286523
That's fair. Like the faggots explaining and arguing the joke ad-nauseum in this thread.

>>53286549
I shitpost just as much if not more than the average poster in this thread. I am more than capable of speaking informally. However, when it comes to argumentation, I will use formal language with no exceptions.

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>>53286379
>shitposting on an anonymous anime image board is a sign of maturity
Really made me think

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>>53286548
>attempting to justify their poor humor.

You're the only justification needed.

>>53286561
Sarcasm comes across quite badly in text. Are you serious?

>>53286548
I don't think you get it, man. I'm not here to win an argument with you. I don't give a fuck what you do, I'm doing you a favour by pointing this out, and you're doubling down and continuing. You're just hurting yourself here.

>and have not used any sort of pretentious superiority to attempt to portray myself as an authority figure
You are implying it by speaking in a pretentious manner. And yes, you are doing that, and no, you cannot argue that point because it's not up to you. If the people you're talking with say you come off as pretentious, then you do. Period. Whether you agree with them or not, whether they're even "objectively right" or not, doesn't matter. Results matter. The impression the other party gets, matters. You can't just win arguments by being right, you win them by making the other side believe you're right. Not taking this into account, and stubbornly going on with the way you're doing things - that's textbook autism. You can still correct this behaviour.

Rant over. Have a good day, I mean that not sarcastically or anything.

>>53286569
Thank you for your intelligent contribution.
>>53286571
I am entirely serious.

>>53286581
Thank you for your intelligent contribution.

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>>53286567
Fucking kek.

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>>53286561
>actually trying to engage with /tg/ intellectually

Look at this retard, look at him and laugh.

>>53286560
What the hell is the original version of this meme, I keep seeing it

>>53286414
whats the deal with this fabius bile meme

>>53286052
being outright hostile to them wouldn't fit, but you could make a group of Templars who don't accept Primarines in their ranks

My 40k Marines don't accept them either despite being an Ultramarines Successor Chapter themselves, though the main reason for that is my entire army being decked out in Mk.3 Armor, and Primarines not fitting into it a whole lot.

>>53286579
Except that it is you who deems me to be pretentious. I see no issue in however manner people wish to speak in, unless it directly translates to the substance and quality of their arguments. I suggest you do the same, because all you are doing is making yourself look like a poorly educated fool who is unable to comprehend formal writing on his anime forum.

>>53286586
>>53286596
Thank you for your intelligent contribution.

>>53286603
Thank you for your intelligent contribution.

>>53286581
>Thank you for your intelligent contribution.

You're welcome.
Would you like to meet Mr Fetish now or later?

>>53286605
>>53286609
Thank you for your intelligent contribution.

>>53286597
Spurdo, if you've never seen the bear before.
This version is a mutation of the "freedumb ain't free" amerigan spurdo. I'll see if I can't find the original.

>>53286601
I'm going to have my chapter accept them tentatively, this generation not recruited by them won't ever get into the inner circle, and they'll always be watched by the interrogator chaplains, but man we have to recover from those fucking losses somehow.

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>>53286064
>tfw

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>>53286597
'Ere ya go lad, found it.

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>>53286561
... buddy.
You's gonna get eaten alive.

... I's gonna watch.

>>53286414
I need more

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>>53286603
Holy shit nothing is going to get through here. You're too far gone.

Okay just keep feeding the trolls in the thread and delusionally believing you're the superior intellect while literally everyone laughs at you. I did my best.

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>>53286611
I'll take that as now.
Just remember to say three not-gays in the morning.

>>53286601
>my entire army being decked out in Mk.3 Armor
Based. Show pictures.

>>53286628
>>53286632
>>53286635
Thank you for your intelligent contribution.

>>53286603
>When Everyone thinks you're an asshole.
>THEY aren't the assholes.

Lit pretentious

>>53286612
>>53286625
Thanks m8, curiosity was just gettin the best of me

>>53286617
>man we have to recover from those fucking losses somehow.
onw would think your chapter has the capabilities to make regularines faster than waiting for Cawl to cook and ship his from Mars. Not to mention how long the waiting period has to be, with all these entirely rebuilt chapters, and decimated Chapterd taking priority.

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>be every thread
>someone makes a "DA are homos" or "DA are traitors" joke
>one autismo spergs the fuck out and goes ballistic for the rest of the thread
>works 100% every time
This fucking guy
my sides

>>53286644

See>>>53286299

>>53286628
>>53286632
>>53286635
Thank you for your intelligent contribution.

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>>53286657
I am in honestly in tears right now fampai

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>>53286625

have an enoch variant

>>53286640
don't have any on this phone, I'll get home tomorrow and post some.

though entire army sounds a bit large for three tactical squads, a command squad and a techmarine, with two cataphractii squads, and not even half of them painted yet

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>>53286649
Anytime m8y

>Blood Angels Techmarines break Adeptus Mechanicus sacred rules and patents 1 through 666 in an attempt to hold back Hive Fleet Leviathan.

>>53286655
>>53286649
>>53286660
Thank you for your intelligent contribution.

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>/40kg/ - shitposting and memes
Wew lad, is this the power of a new edition?

>>53286657
Maybe he just wants to make our day more joyful by showering us in weapons grade autism. Anyway, lets all get back on track, yea? Everyone excited for the deldar focus?

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>>53286644
Gay AND autistic?

>>53286657
>>53286660
>>53286663
>>53286664
>>53286667
>>53286672
>>53286674
>>53286675
Thank you for your intelligent contribution.

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>>53286655
Listen here nigger, I just want an excuse to paint and field some.

>>53286691
Thank you for your intelligent contribution.

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>>53286674
Nice

>>53286674
Looks like it was meant to cart around GI Joes.

>>53286307
DESU if the guy to the left just fixed his hair, didn't have a fucked up facial expression, and hot some new shoes, he could look alright

>>53286655
Didn't you know? They can churn out primarines, mX power armors and bolt rifles like lasgun clips. They also power up the ships transporting them making the logistics easy as hell. What else did you expect from the logistic master Guilliman?

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>>53286676
Hold on tight brotha! It's going to be wild if they mishandle tomorrow's live Q&A.

>>53286667
Noice! Here's an AdMech one.

>>53286677
>Anyway, lets all get back on track, yea? Everyone excited for the deldar focus?
I kind of wish the would have done a Xenos that's not a variant of Taudar instead of saving the ones everyone really wants to see for last, but I won't begrudge the DE players this since they're much more in the same boat as Nids and Orks than they are with the actual Taudar.

Also the confirmation that Deep Strike works as has been rumoured will be good.

>>53286674
really nice. finally something 40k related...

>>53286697
Are you okay? I'm having a conversation with someone outside of your thing you have going on.

How do you fit three Dark Angels on a bar stool?

>>53286700
Yeah I was gonna say out of those three he has the most potential to not be a joke of a person, the way he carries himself at least in that photo has a natural confidence to it, not the cringe of the other two guys.

Dunno why I waste my time thinking about random shit like this though

>>53286705
>instead of saving the ones everyone really wants to see for last
Bitch please, if anyone would have bought your shitty ass models maybe they would gotten more than 2 codicies in 20 years.

>>53286711
oh no

>>53286701
>>53286691
ok, not trying to piss in your soup. I just don't plan on buying them, not with mkX anyway.

I just use the obvious fluff implications on why my Chapter won't need any.

POST FAVOURITE NECRON COLOUR SCHEMES

POST IDEAS FOR MY 8TH ED KINGDOMS PERSONALITY

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>>53286698
>>53286706
Sadly not mine. Though the conversion is so hilarious I'm compiling pictures of overgunned Land Raiders because I want to do one.

>>53286699
You say that like it's a bad thing...

>>53286711
flip it over !
jajajajajaa

>>53286715
You turn it upside down!

>>53286703
I love this one, saved

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>>53286711
>Round 2 is about to begin

>>53285856
OMG that's adorable
I want it so bad

>>53286713
Tyranids get updated constantly faggot, and they sell a remarkable amount of models for a xenos race that has bad rules. If they had an actually good Codex again they'd be giving tau a run for their money in sales.

And nids/orks have been the most asked for faction focus articles since they announced they were doing them if you pay attention to the GW facebook page.

>>53286716
You're totally fine with doing what you want, and a fluff reason to justify it only makes it better, they are 'Your Dudes' after all. To be perfectly honest, if I end up not liking them, or if their guns can be used on regular marines, my chapter will take them all on a exercise where they will be killed in an unfortunate incident and their losses not reported.

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>>53286717

>>53286711
What's the difference between a Dark Angel and a fridge?

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>>53286717
SILVER AND RED
WAIT, YOU'RE NOT STC COMPLIANT!

>>53286721
Overcompensating Marines, a new chapter formed in the wake of the Chadmarines arrival

>>53286717
Terminator chrome

>>53286721
that's actually kinda neat
>>53286756
there's no kielbasa in my fridge?

>>53286739
Girls don't really play this game. They only collect those cute bugs and write twisted erotica about them. Nid faction focus is literally worthless.

>>53286774
>and write twisted erotica about them
What. Where? Link that shit

>>53286756
>>53286772
The fridge doesn't fart when you pull out the meat.

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Last LandRaven. No paint on this one.

>>53286774
Link me, right now.

>>53286790
I saw that on reddit. You've just revealed yourself as a dirty redditor!

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>>53286790
kek

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>>53286790
Audibly kekked

What does a Dark Angel think comes after 69?

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>>53286797
>>53286721
How many guns can you even put on a Land Raider?

>>53286815
You're actually just shitposting now mate, and I think the autist left.

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>new box of marines arrive
>stare at the sprues for a minute
>remember that primaris true-scales are coming
>put them back in the box

I feel like every old set of marines should be called head&shoulders from now on.

Cause those are the only bits of value inside.

>>53286797
Fuck man, thats tight as shit. Shame its about 70 quid

>>53286828
Mouthwash!
Sorry.

>>53286414
Can you give me a basic gestalt of this meme

>>53286816
By Number? Just counting sponsonable or turretable weapons, and not caring about rhyme or reason?

- 4 sets of sponson Hurrican Bolters (24 guns)
- Two turrets with Lascannon and Twin-linked Plasmaguns (6 guns)
- Pintle guns (HKs, Stormbolters, or Multimeltas) (2 guns)

So...32?

>>53286829
People have been telling you that BigMarines have been coming for months. You have nobody to blame but yourself.

>>53286836
see >>53286270

>>53286748
>doesnt fit on his own base

Why would they design it like this

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>>53286807

>>53286855
GW modellers have a fetish for wide stances. It's a sickness, they can't help it.

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>>53286848
they were supposed to be genetic freaks only used in small numbers by the ultrafags

>>53286855
Being this new.

Back in glorious 3rd edition also known as best edition the concept of infantry model having bases bigger than 25mm was not a thing.

Everything change with Tau and Grey Knight

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>>53286873
>genetic freaks vs fat summabitch plague marines

>>53286739
Did GW answer when they are doing nid/ork faction focus? The wait to see if these 2 armies are getting decent rework is killing me.

>>53286873
No one said that.

>>53286886
I'm waiting for that since 2004.

You can wait another decade since we are not marines that clearly need more updates, the poor head & shoulders are getting squated

>>53286889
They heavily implied it

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>>53286873
Congratulations, if that's the conclusion you arrived at, the only person you played is yourself.

>>53286886
Soon™

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>>53286414

>>53286925
At the end of the year we should have a new Xeno army not related to current armies.

SoB will be enteraly forgotten.

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Lion confirmed?

>>53286942
Not likely. It'll take something like 650 lasgun shots to kill a Gorkanaut and that things not even superheavy (not that the term superheavy has any real application in 8th).

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/17/warhammer-40000-faction-focus-drukhari-may17/

Quick someone start a thread! Faction focus Drew Carey is here!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/17/warhammer-40000-faction-focus-drukhari-may17/

>>53286989
>>53286988
>You can even fire Pistol weapons out of the vehicle when it is engaged in close combat
>vehicles can get engaged in close combat
>passengers won't be able to fire their weapons if it is aside from pistols
durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/17/new-warhammer-40000-reserves-and-deep-striking-may17gw-homepage-post-4/

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/17/new-warhammer-40000-reserves-and-deep-striking-may17gw-homepage-post-4/

fuck drew carey the deep strike rules are out too

>>53286988
Key take-sways:
-Poison is still a thing
-Vehicle melee weapons are a thing, and the one shown indicates they'll be fairly strong
-You can only fire pistols out of open-topped vehicles when that vehicle is in melee
-Some melee units will have ways to make it more difficult for opponent to leave melee
-DEldar melee weapons love their rending

>>53286988
>>53286989
>You can have a dark lance, which will give you serious punch to open other people’s transports or take down large creatures with a strength of 8, an AP of -4 and D6 damage. Or you can go with the disintegrator cannon, which has three shots that all do 2 damage at AP -3.


>They have a klaive that hits at +1 Strength and AP -3… yikes that’s going to hurt! The leader of a unit is a beast as well, gaining +2 damage if he rolls a 6 to wound.

>Wyches will be seen in greater numbers too. Honestly, this might be one of the top 3 most improved units in all of the new edition! They get the 4+ invulnerable save in the Fight phase, just like before, and can now dish out some damage in combat. Their hydra gauntlets and razorflails are fantastic, giving their attacks -1 AP. But their real talent is in the No Escape special rule.

>>53286988
>>53286989

No clue on how poison works which is a bit disappointing.

Also, I was always under the impression that the reason wyches sucked was from getting torn up from overwatch, and they haven't gained anything to mitigate that.

Should I start buying units now, or wait for the new codices?

>>53286988
Drukhari™

It looks like shit right now. Tau still look broken as fuck, same thing with Eldar and Demons.

The new Deep striking rules seem interesting.

>>53287000
>>53287002
>>53286988
>>53286989
Im so glad i bought hades drill.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/17/new-warhammer-40000-reserves-and-deep-striking-may17gw-homepage-post-4/

>>53286989
will more armies have the no escape rule or just DE

>>53286997
Vehicles could always get assaulted, they can also leave whenever they want, like they always could.

>>53286957
It does look a worryingly lot like the Lion's shoulder.

Must still be far, far off, though. They haven't even officially announced Mortarion coming with Deathguard and that's still over a month away.

>>53287000
Key take-aways:
-Units can only start in reserve if they have a rule that says they can
-No universal rules like DS, but some common themes like minimum 9" distance from enemy units
-No more than half your units can start in reserves
-Any units not on field by end of turn 3 are destroyed
-Can charge straight out of DS, but the 9" distance on 2d6 makes that risky
-Tervigon can bring another unit with it when it enters

>>53286997
Pretty sure most vehicles will have a rule like Fly or Walking Battleship that lets them move out of combat and still fire.

>>53287002
Hand flamers are 6"
Flamers are 8"

SadSisters.jpg

>>53287000
>>53287002
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/17/warhammer-40000-faction-focus-drukhari-may17/

Dark Eld-I mean, Drukhari Focus, too.

Never played them, but they do sound far improved.

>>53286997
Are you insinuating that you couldn't previously assault vehicles??

The only nerf here is if the passengers csnt fire overwatch for the vehicle. (Or maybe the vehicle itself can fire overwatch?)

>>53286793
I have tried to engage with you with intelligence and respect, and you choose to continue your infantile, baseless jokes. Desist.

Hot damn, chance to keep Tau in melee with wyches.
Get rekt.

>>53286988
>>53286989
>think i'm being tricked
>it's real
HOORAY

>>53287007
>-You can only fire pistols out of open-topped vehicles when that vehicle is in melee

I can't wait for Stormlords packed with 20 Marine vets with grav pistols or hand flamers.

>>53286711
Thank you for your intelligent contribution.

>>53287002
>have to be more than 9 inches away

Deepstriking just got way less fun the fucking niggers

completely removing universal special rules feels really regressive. I remember 3rd edition having an issue where many units had basically the exact same special rules for certain things, but because they were all called different shit you repeatedly had to explain rules to your opponent. And more than that some units and weapons had slight variations that seemed the same but actually behaved differently.

It was annoying and universal special rules fixed that and improved the flow of the game, but GW seem to have forgotten the problem that USRs fixed.

>>53287010
It's not like they have shown the datasheet for the Wyches

Maybe now they have a 5+ that with the new rules would already make them much more resistant to overwatch then now

>>53287032
Maybe just HH Lion.

>>53287029
Its possible, but I wouldn't count on it. Special abilities are no longer universal and "no escape" seems to be a rule resulting from the wyches' shardnets.

>>53287000
>>53287002
>Assaulting from deep strike is back
HAWHAWHAWHAWHAW

>>53287030
>>53287035
>>53287045
ofcourse but they didn't count as locked in combat in any way , especially not the passangers
this seems to imply that will change, after all if the vehicle could just drive out/trough as it could before , then why mention the passangers can still only fire their pistols

>>53287014
How do daemons still seem broken? They have to set aside rolls for reserves, and that includes having pink horrors split off. Literally no free models anymore.

There's also the changes to reserves which let people appear 9" away and get to charge on the turn they arrive, and rerolls from command points. And the no escape rule that lets some units lock down crisis suits and shit like that.

>>53286350
I can confidently confirm, that you never owned the right to decree what is funny and what isn't.
I can testify that I for one find it funny and that approximately 99,9% of this thread find it funny.
Which would technically amount for it being funny.

>>53285714

>Also, I was always under the impression that the reason wyches sucked was from getting torn up from overwatch, and they haven't gained anything to mitigate that.

Hopefully incubii will be tough enough to get into melee, so you tie up their overwatch with that, then don't let em escape with the wyches.

>>53287092
Your reasoning skills are fucking abysmal.

So, no reserve rolls anymore? I hope officers of the fleet still do something. I love those guys.

Deep strike seems way more reliable. No rolls to see when you come on, no rolls to scatter, just turn up and lay into the enemy. Hope outflanking is equally good.

Wonder if ongoing reserves are still a thing, or if flyers don't have to worry about leaving the table anymore?

test

>>53287079
That issue is lessened by having the rules always be right on each datasheet. As long as you have copies of the relevant datasheet, referencing them is very fast and easy for you and your opponent.

>>53287129
>Deep strike seems way more reliable. No rolls to see when you come on, no rolls to scatter, just turn up and lay into the enemy. Hope outflanking is equally good.
Those are the rules for the Trygon, for other units they have confirmed it may be different

TAUFAGGOTS CANT SHOOT AFTER RETREATING FROM COMBAT IF YOURE ALREADY DEAD WHEN I CHARGE YOU FROM DEEP STRIKE TURN 1 WITH NO SCATTER, NO RESERVE ROLLS, NO MISHAPS, AND A UNIT OF GENESTEALERS IN THE TUNNEL RIGHT OUT THE FUCKIN GATE

KEKEKEKEKEKEK BLUENIGGERS

Here is to hoping buttmad players will be selling off their space marines at conventions during the upcoming long weekend and I can pick up a bunch for cheap!

Hey folks, need some advice.
Thinking about either going with Imperial fists or Crimson fists, but cant decide. Please halp

>>53287147
Imps.

>>53287147
Are you Mexican?

Deestriking suicidal flamers is no longer possible.

Are they trying to remove Grim Dark from the setting?

>>53287079

It only became an issue in late 3rd edition when the rules were scattered between 5 fucking books.

It was nice when 3rd edition first dropped and the only book you needed to play the game was the actual rule book because it had full army lists and their associated rules in it.

>>53287034
So if I have like 1 HQ and 3 Termies squad, can I deep strike 2 Termies atleast ? HQ does count as a unit on their own right ?

>>53287158
What makes you think you won't be able to deep-strike flamers?

>>53287154
>Crimson Fist
>Mexicans

At least say Spaniard and shitpost properly

>>53287142

Why? Are you planning on playing marinelet army? What is wrong with you? Get with the times and get a Primaris army.

>>53287147
Crimson fists. Pedro is probably the coolest chapter master in lore

>rebuilding his chapter of underdogs
>but also on a secret search for his best friend who got kidnapped by elves

>>53287138
I'm doubtful any of those core concepts will be different. There's no scatter dice so that won't happen. Maybe something will have to roll to come in but I doubt that too.

They say in the article the Trygon's rules are common. I expect minimum distances from the enemy to be different as well as what you can do after deploying.

Speaking of adarki aeldari, what's the go with reikland flesh shade for them?
It seems an odd thing to go with palid wych flesh, and I'd rather save the coin if it's unnecessary

>>53287032
Jonson doesn't wear a literal lion on his shoulder.

>>53287167
Flamer range is 8" and 6" for hand flamers
Deepstrike is 9" minimum

Same thing with suicidal melta units no longer they can get the half range bonus

>>53287158
>Are they trying to remove Grim Dark from the setting?
No. If that's your thing you have the entire "Grimdark Imperium" to look forward to. Just make sure your dudes are from the northern half of the Galaxy.

>>53286735

Chaplain Sapphon is too easy...how about the Rock being originally a bar favoured by the Nottingham scene?

What the hell happened? Did all of 4chan potato?

>>53287167
You can, but they have 8" range and most (read: probably almost all) deep striking units need to come in 9" away, and its at the end of the Movement phase so they don't get to move after.

>>53287079
WarmaHordes made that mistake in mk3.

Many spells and abilities were renamed to be faction specific and you ended up with about eight abilites that do the exact same thing.

>>53287184
>Same thing with suicidal melta units no longer they can get the half range bonus
We don't even know if that rule still exists.

>>53287187
>If that's your thing you have the entire "Grimdark Imperium" to look forward to. Just make sure your dudes are from the northern half of the Galaxy.

I dont even get this. The terra side of the Imperium didn't turn into a paradise just because Guileman came back. It's just the other side is even worse.

>>53287207
We know that meltas get to reroll their damage at half range and take the highest result.

>>53287207
Yes we do, we saw the Melta profile.

At half range they roll 2 dice and used the highest for damage.

>>53287207
Yes we do.

>>53287207
We do. We have combi melta rules. I doubt they made an extra rule for lonely meltas

>>53287040

How many of you tools are going to go around saying you play, 'drukhari' instead of dark eldar

>>53287177
Duncan has a tutorial on witch elf flesh, should work fine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkMZKzfBWL4

>>53287213
>>53287215
Oh. My bad, which one was that in?

>>53287222
For what purpose ?

>>53287222

>eldar

*aeldari