Pathfinder General /pfg/

>>53281736
>How professional are your characters?
Usually not very. Even the ones that are literally employed under contract don't worry about it too much, because they'll gut or curse folks that try any funny business.

>Do they ever painstakingly write up/take contracts for the jobs they perform?
Never, because I haven't had a chance to play an Asmodean Advocate yet.

>>53281746
Basically, it gets magic traps that take a standard action to set up, deal 1d6+Int mod damage or have conditions with Int-based DCs, and get 3/4ths sneak attack progression but also adds about the same amount as scaling damage to their traps. The higher-level magic traps can also include dispels, difficult terrain, etc.

>>53281736
>Character A
Not professional at all, that's why he wants to become an adventurer so bad. His brother was the responsible one who thought about contracts, he just wants to fight monsters and rescue the weak.

>Character B
Not professional at all, he just tries to do the right thing.

>Character C
Moderately professional. Usually trusts someone else to write contracts, and just takes a good hard look at them before he signs anything. Insists on getting paid his fair share, does his job as requested, and only rarely goes off the letter of his contract. In those rare cases, it's usually to execute someone who's too much of a scumbag to be brought in alive.

>>53281934
Nobody is a rogue (true professional).

The party is going to a wizard's tower where a time-travel accident went horribly wrong. What could I put in it?
>Battle with monsters, party has been sped up 2x
>Battle with monsters, monsters have been sped up 2x balanced in some manner
>Puzzle room that's caught in a time loop
>Rooms from the past/future of the tower

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>>53281736

Why wouldn't you write up a contract? It makes getting paid so much easier.

>>53282030
MC Escher rooms, because time and space are interconnected.

The PCs meet one of their future selves from after a sudden TPK. The future self lives just long enough to tell them the weakness that lets them trivialize the next encounter.

>>53281736
>Albert Blacktree
Not particularly professional. Sure, he won't break the job parameters for his own gain, but his life comes first, and if the job ends up involving something he morally disagrees with, he'll back out.

>Rekannas Haelcant
HE IS THE LAW! That being said, his missions probably involve more receiving a written order and performing it to his best.

>Oskar Stroud
Professional in that he won't break the conditions unless his employer backstabs him first, and will do something unsavory even if he regrets it, but the moment the job is completed, the employer is a potential target if he feels like screwing him over.

>>53282129
>his missions probably involve more receiving a written order and performing it to his best.
Is your GM a railroader?

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>>53282060
Why does a general get paid by the kill?

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If I want to play a dragon who rides a dragon, would it be better to make a wyvaran draconic avenger exposed vigilante, or a wyvaran betrothed (draconic) avowed?

>>53282185
That goblin's doing what we all want to do.

>>53282185
...What?

>>53282233
What? It's a particularly tall goblin. Sorceress, by the looks of it.

>>53282082
MC Escher rooms sound hard to map, but seem like a fun idea. The future party member one also seems good. Thanks!

>>53282201
These are all my apps for different games. Rekannas is a Hellknight, so that's what he does. Given that he's Scourge, he doesn't have a single set method of doing stuff.

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>>53282230
Cut off Seoni's head and graft our head onto her body using dark, horrific alchemical rituals?

I mean...maybe?

>>53282268
For a confusing room layout, take a look at a tesseract, and take three or four of the cubes and map them out as 20-foot rooms with doors in the walls/floor/ceiling that connect to the relevant cube. Make the rooms distinctive (so it's obvious that something crazy is going on), but make the PCs figure out for themselves how to find which door leads out of the loop.

>>53282289
You... You don't?

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>>53282327
You mean this? 1/4

>>53282347
Yes, exactly that kind of thing.

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>>53282327
2/4

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>>53282340
Uh, no. That's fucking disgusting.

I'd to it to Feiya instead

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>>53282360
3/4

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>>53282385

>>53282225
why not the dragon cavalier archetype from distant worlds? They are known as dragonfuckers and among their ranks are way too many half dragons for comfort

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What countries in Golarion let me be a kitsune princess?

>>53282491
There's Drakerider (which sucks) in Legacy of Dragons, but there's no archetypes in Distant Worlds, unless I'm missing something.

>>53282540
None jump off a bridge

>>53282540
Tian Xia.

The paladin smiles at the compliment, before looking perplexed again. "What's a Duh-Mane?" She couldn't help but notice his tail, brand, and ears from before. She was no stranger to mutation of the flesh. This handsome man must've fallen prey to some wolf-beast that slaked its lusts upon his body (though who could blame it?) "I didn't think I was lost, but now I'm not sure..."

>>53282607
>bad end
NO! STOP! DON'T! TAKE IT BACK!

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>>53282596
Tian Xia is a continent, not a country.

>>53282209
>The entire Starfox team is "a general"

>>53282209
It's a memo TO a general.

>>53282540
Pretty much the spirit forest AND maybe Minkai but they are much more common in the spirit forest and wander into minkai and fantasy mongolia

>>53282635
Do Kitsune Even have a society, let alone Royalty?

>>53282695
The answer is not their own. They have a fey society where they act as envoys to humans from the Kami spirits because they can look like humans.

Otherwise they just sit in the forests coming out to fuck with humans in minkai
>>53282688
This

Hmm, which game seems good to app to?

>>53282750
Well, there is TSS but its sort of lewd. There is Mighty Quest but that is a planer adventure game, there is the IronFang game, an AP

>>53282747
While serving the Kami might be cool, I kind of feel a bit let down.

Can the Half-Dragon kids from >>53282491 rise up in the ranks in their world?

>>53282771
TSS was confirmed Bamboozle though.

>>53282622
There's no going back, Anon. This is only the beginning of the End

>>53282795
Well on their world a while continent is ruled by giant true dragons, in their own dragonrider country that is essentially giant aeires in the sky and giant cliffs, humans form bonds with lesser dragons to ride in defense of the barbarian hoards or other knights led by true dragons to steal their hoards. One of the worst insults is dragonfucker, but there is still a population of halfdragons among their ranks, so probably among the dragonriders it might not be that bad. With others its probably bad.

I'm kind of a new player myself, ive written three application so far. I don't know what the average is for anyone else but it feels like I'm not going to get into any of them, not for any lack of trying on my part. Between all the memes, shilling, and two paragraphs biographies... And I have to spend hours pouring over setting books to fit the tone but still fall short... What am I even doing this for?

>>53282833
Oh great, now that one dude's going to submit Amalthea to another game.

>>53282856
Remember, you can always send your app through PM. at least 5 people so far have done it for mighty quest and iron gods.

>>53282854
Are you talking about Distant Worlds, which has almost no mechanics in it, or a different book?

>>53282833
Its a possible bamboozle at the moment

>>53281736
My most recent character is about 10% criminal and 90% businessman. Whereas the other players see the immediate profit in adventure,he goes for long term investments. The campaign has us exploring undiscovered lands, so naturally he has been involved in seeking out everything that could be sold for a profit at home. Natural resources are about the tamest option, things like minerals or plants that can produce helpful effects. Largely though, he's in the drug and 'indentured servant' trade. Pretty and exotic individuals excited to see a foreign land? Perfect targets. He's never lied to anyone, though.

>>53282833
You didn't read all the way. Roryanon's keeping it open and thinking about it, but will most likely continue ahead with some cutting-of-the-chaff; no joke-apps, a more clear and obvious goal of what characters should be like.

>>53282851
Pls treat him right. Give him a happy end. Let him have at least that. Please? Please?

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>>53282869
Its Castrovel but on one novel they went to talk to the dragonriders to get a specific magic item from their hoard to trap a dragon on golarion

>>53282865
Does that really make a difference?

>>53282902
Probably not bias-wise, but thats how people deliver quality apps without getting lost in the memes

>>53282916
I guess I'll keep that in mind for future games possibly iron gods if I have time. Thanks for the tip anon.

>>53282887
Who are you to say what he deserves?

>>53282954
I just like happy endings. I never said he deserved it. Just that I'd like to see him have one.

Please...

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I know breath weapons are a fun gimmicky sort of thing but is it possible to build/optimize a character around them?

>>53283000
Why, out of curiosity? Many, if not most, people would ask for exactly the opposite?

>>53282225
What would the story behind such a character even be?

>>53283004
you'd need something comparable to the Dragonfire Adept from 3.5. If you can convince a GM to let you convert that to pathfinder, you should be good.

>>53283034
There's nothing outside of that? That really blows.

>>53283056
It's not exactly something players commonly use, and those creatures that have breath weapons are very rare.

The less it's used by players, the less likely it is to get player options. Since it's utterly unlikely that players can get access to breath weapons, it just doesn't happen to get any player utility buffs.

>>53283075
A few classes get it as a 1st level spell.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/f/firebelly/

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Planning on putting up a campaign in a week or so, little questionnaire first though.

1. What is the average campaign length, if any, of pfg games. If you have no clue, preferred length is fine.
2. Gestalt y/n
3. Are there any particular themes you haven't seen in /pfg/ games before that you really like?

>>53283028
I already said why. I like happy endings. I don't care what other people like. I like happy endings.

Please.

>>53283004
If you just want it to be cool then all line and cone spells can easily be refluffed as breath weapons.

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>>53283004
What books do you have access to?

>>53283102
I'd like at least a year's length
Gestalt = No.
Non-lewd.

that said, I'll apply to your game Protag, no matter what it is.

>>53283102
The most important question for a GM is what kind of story do you want to tell in the time you will have with the players?

>>53283106
But some people don't deserve happiness, Anon.

>>53283116
Works for me.

>>53283118
1st party only but everything within that is fine.

>>53283102
>Length
No prefered campaign length; I just want one to end that's not due to the group falling apart.
>Gestalt
NO GESTALT
>Particular themes
One where I get to play.

>>53283102
I'm actually a sucker for short games.

How much downtime does Iron gods have?

>>53283102
1. No idea; Preference is whatever the DM prefers!
2. I don't mind either way
3. Chivalry and heroic knighthood!

>>53283004
The drunken master monk and soverign samurai get pretty good breath attacks

>>53283004
Avowed can use breath weapons as their Aether Pulse, 1d6 per 2 levels at will, with tons of ways to add different damage types, extra damage, riders, etcetera.

Spherecasters can give anyone a breath weapon dealing 1d8 per 2 CL, usable once per 1d4 rounds.

>>53283102
1 any
2 n try to limit pow
3 GLORY and CHIVALRY, and BATTLE for MIGHTIEST of WARRIORS. Room for barbarians and monks too I guess.

>>53283029
>dragon who can't fly
>makes friends with dragon who can fly
>they go on adventures to get treasure

>>53283150
Not too much. You are actually on time constraints for much of the game. The only games I can think of with any length of downtime that are up right now would be Ironfang and mighty quest if it runs like the one from last year.

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>>53283102
1. A year or so, probably. But shorter is fine so long as it ends in a satisfying way.
2. No preference on gestalt, I've done either one and it was fine.
3. I want some Weird Fantasy in the vein of Morrowind or Kill Six Billion Demons. Kung fu, philosophy, metaphor-becoming-real, beggars becoming kings and vice versa, L O R E

>>53283125
Of course, but there are a lot of mechanical concerns to a pathfinder campaign which can drastically change the length without altering the story much beyond some pacing.
>>53283142
I plan on altering the normal app process to be a bit kinder, basically having a lot more communication between the DM and players through the process so things don't have the whole affair doesn't have to reek of anxiety.
>>53283152
You're in luck, chivalry and heroic knighthood, at least in aesthetic, was one of the themes I'd already decided on.

>>53283138
Everyone deserves happiness anon. But not everyone gets it. So if everything else is considered equal, I'd rather read a happy end then one that isn't.

Please, anon.

>>53283187
>>53283102
Seconding the kung fu. A high-wushu style setting would be fantastic. You could flavor so many monks and other classes to have a wushu style to them it would be amazing.

>>53283102
Please no gestalt.

>>53283102
1. No PFG game has fully run its course yet. Personally, I'm up for any length, provided the story can hold up that long.

2. Probably not. I enjoy the build opportunities presented, but it's not worth the additional hassle on your end.

3. Political Intrigue, Conspiracy, Cult Horror, Cosmic Horror. Not necessarily all the the same time, but those themes have been severely lacking from all /pfg/ games I've seen.

>>53283187
>>53283207
>>53283102
This! I have always wanted to play a wushu china style setting. It would give me room to play my Ascetic monk, and I am a sucker for cheesy kung fu movies.

>>53283182
>Spend that Treasure on finding ways to let Dragon fly
>Realize that being together was their greatest treasure

>>53283188
Sounds good, but you at least want something you will enjoy running.

>>53283221
You can be an ascetic monk with your alms bowl and prayer beads, Ill be a chaotic drunken master with levels of barbarian

>>53283162
Don't forget, Spherecasters can also double the size of any breath weapon. Not just the one they give, but any other breath weapon you might pick up somewhere. Whether this combines with Aether Breath is up to your DM.

>>53283102
The gestalt meme really needs to fucking end. It's awful. Something non-lewd and non-combat centric needs to happen as well.

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>>53282695
>>53282747
What if there was a kitsune kingdom situated on the back of a giant fox Eldest running around in the First World?

What if someone ran a game about such a thing?

>>53283250
I thought there were already non-lewd and non-combat games running?
>>53283257
Because kami are only partially fey and originate on the mortal plane. They would of had to migrate there, but kitsune are created to protect kami

>>53283269
>kitsune are created to protect kami
[citation needed]

>>53283257
>Macrofans
It does give me some ideas though.

>>53283269
>>53283278
Wait, who were the Kami again? I think I'm blending them with other things in my head.

>>53283269
The closest to noncombat centric around are maybe blood and oil, maybe that one with the demons, and Mighty Quest
>>53283278
Reference: Jade Regent exposition when they head to the spirit forest guided by the kitsune emissary

>>53283243
this guy gets it

>>53283188
>You're in luck, chivalry and heroic knighthood, at least in aesthetic, was one of the themes I'd already decided on.

Then you've got my attention. I've got ideas whether it's gestalt or not already!

>>53283289
Kami are nature spirits and minor gods of creation. Almost any item can have a kami or turn into one, but not everyone does or needs one.

Fey are chaotic creatures from the first world, numerous and powerful, and they don't truly die in the first world. They were the god's first attempts at creation but they did not really work out the way they wanted.

>>53283200
What if it's a really happy end? Why did you assume it was a bad end, anyway? Sheesh.

>>53283102
A kungfu setting with knights and chivalry! I'm in the same boat as those other three dudes, but I would love to play a waring kingdoms era fighter with a dragon crescent blade polearm with my mighty swordarts. (or a sumo wrestler)

>>53283269
I would've applied to those were that the case.

>>53283359
Why don't you then. I know one application closes for tomorrow.

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>>53283221
I love monks, and yet it honestly hadn't even occurred to me to draw from that well for this campaign, thanks for the idea, I think I'll add a bit of that to the pot. I'm sure it will make for an interesting mixture.
>>53283250
I'm incapable of running campaigns that's aren't ultimately entirely resolved by how you roleplayed and interacted with the plot and characters. I love mechanics and combat, but I love stories more.

Also I honestly just don't think I have the skillset for a lewd campaign, so while I don't have anything against such themes, there is no chance I'll be tilting the campaign towards it. That being said, courtly themes are go so courtly romance stuff is likely, I'm pretty sure that's not what people mean by lewd here though.

Anyway thanks for your input everyone! I'm not certain, I'll want a better idea of my schedule before I really post anything so as to ensure there is no bamboozle.

>>53283290
If you are looking to apply for Mighty Quest, better do it tonight. Its closing in the morning. Hopefully the PMed apps were better than a lot of the posted ones.

>>53283370
The implication was that none of those games fit the criteria, Anon. Let alone any of the games that are advertised here.

Speaking of the mighty Quest oh, I was curious if anyone knew the answer to this thing that was bugging me. Ive been wanting to play a character with a fondness for dragons breath ammo for awhile now, but the misfire chance is brutal period is it possible to reduce the misfire chance of dragon's breath ammo? Maybe an ability, or via a reliable firearm?

>>53283510
If you are looking for a non-combat game, why would you even choose Pathfinder though?

>>53283528
Yeah, reliable can reduce misfire rates, gunslinger grit abilities can too. I think the greater lucky enhancement can too.

>>53283541
Because this is where games get played, Anon.

>>53283221
I think there's a lot of opportunity to make a journey to the west campaign. Especially with how fond people are around here of furries

>>53283547
It's not that simple though. Dragon's breath follows its own misfire rules. Looking at the reliable enchantment so that it modifies the misfire chance of the firearm.

>>53283257
What would a quest about such a thing even entail? Having to go around Golarion and get travel rights for the Elder?

>>53283587
Yeah, but if you have a blunderbus with it's already high misfire, if you lower the base misfire it makes room for more misfire to take its place without being too big.
>>53283562
I agree with this. Though I just recently watched the new chinese wu kong movie and now I really want to collect relics from old kung fu master gods

LoBaF just ended, greentext logs soon. Shit was an intense fight

Is there a way to get Destructive Blast above d8's?

Or a way to get it do d8 without being stuck with fire?

>>53283832
No now stop whining

>>53283849
Whining? Fire's an abysmal thing to be stuck with.

>>53283860
Fuck off loser
Fire is the best element. Don't you talk trash to humanity's best friend

>>53283832
Acid Blast deals the same amount of damage effectively.
>>53283860
You should be doing enough damage with a dedicated sphere blaster build to not care. Just pick up Stone Blast or something as a back up.

If you're not dedicating your build to it, then don't bother with destruction at all.

Have emperyal lords ever come up in a game you were part of?

>>53283832
"DM, may I use the crafted blast rules to make a d10 blast of another element?"

>>53283832
Lick your lips, get on your knees, and suck your DM off. Then ask him if you may.

>>53283792
It was indeed. Nothing compared to the catfight that came after though.

>>53283896
Yeah, a while ago though. Plane hopping game that ended up coming across them because we needed to get through their domains

>>53283779
Okay, I get it. Allow me to clarify.
The reliable enhancement states that it reduces the misfire rate of the firearm, specifically.

>>53283779
>>53284094
Read the rules for Dragon's Breath ammo. It has its own snowflake misfire rule that nothing at all reduces the chance of.

>>53283897
What are these crafted blast rules? For making your own blast types?

>>53284166
It's in the same book/webpage as the d10 fire blast, dude.

http://spheresofpower.wikidot.com/destruction#toc68

TL;DR a d10 fire, cold, electric, acid or physical blast is fine, a d10 sonic, force, or typeless blast should probably cost a point.

>>53283922
>>53283792
Well, let's have it, then

>>53284261
>TSS out of the listing
Haha you all deserved this

>>53284513
What

>>53284513
>https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/76813/trouser-serpents-skull
???
Anon, it's still open. It WAS closed, and now it's not.

>>53284261
Think I'm gonna wait 'till there's just the one thread to post greentexts, at least. Might just leave it 'till morning.

>>53284718
Ignore that other thread, it's dead.

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Tonight, on Legacy of Blood and Fire, we last left off with the PCs trying to fight their way up a tower full of gnolls!
>The janni warrior leading the gnoll tribe is waiting up on a balcony at the top of a tower
>Stairs? Ain't no Orlan got time for that!
>With his enlarged reach, he grabs Gamze and starts just jumping, grabbing, and hauling himself up onto the upper balconies
>Shanan and Aida end up parleying with a harpy
>She wants the leader, Kardswann, dead
>They tentatively agree, and she fake-fights them while pointing the way to the next flight of stairs
>Iolanthe tells gravity to fuck off and starts walking up the walls after Orlan
>Aida charges ahead--again--and almost gets herself made into a GNOLL SANDWICH
>Haleen jumps from a hiding spot and shanks the gnoll trying to flank her!
>As Orlan gets up to Kardswann's balcony, he realizes the janni is under some kind of enchantment
>But no matter, he and his flind bodyguard are raring to go
>Shanan, Aida, Essa, and Haleen are hacking their way through the last gnoll patrol to get up to the third floor
>The flind bounds forward, and almost disarms Orlan
>A timely hero point lets him hold onto his sword long enough to Zenith Strike the beast in half, denying it the chance to disarm him!
>Kardswann charges, displaying how he dabbles in Primal Fury, and Orlan just barely manages to parry his blow at the last second.
>The harpy lady sees her chance and moves in to flank the janni
>One attack with her morningstar is accompanied by "THIS is for every time you beat me!"
>The second attack comes with "And THAT'S for being a lousy lay!"

>>53282185
Looks like an upgrade desu

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>>53284908
>Orlan and Kardswann start slugging it out
>Gamze tries misfortune, and Kardswann aces his lowest saving throw
>Gamze spends a hero point to use Binding Earth, and Kardswann botches his highest saving throw
>Seriously he only could have failed on a 2 or less
>But he can fly
>Orlan blows his last hero point to get maneuvers back, parries an attack that would have taken him into negatives
>One last chance to take the janni down, puts everything into it
>FINALLY puts him on the ground
>The others head upstairs, gently informing the last two gnolls standing that they're the last two gnolls standing
>Everyone seems to think that Kardswann needs to be put down so he doesn't escape via plane shift or similar
>Shanan arrives just in time to see "his" old ally on the ground, looking like he's fallen a long way since the glory days
>It's the sword talking, but he's a good Sarenite and can't let a man just get executed
>Tries to talk some sense into the genie warrior, manages to make him remember Vardishal, apparently the spirit contained in Shanan's sword
>Kardswann mentions the name Zulthos as the creature that broke him down
>The PCs are debating how to keep him prisoner
>Shanan spends a hero point to try and keep Kardswann from rising again, trying to bring him to his senses
>Gets a 20--Kardswann goes for his axe
>And kicks it off the balcony so he can't grab it again
>Then fades away, disappearing and promising to get as far away as he can before his madness takes him again

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>>53284935
>The PCs start checking over the rest of the tower
>The harpy, apparently named Wahida, won't stop following Shanan
>Haleen and Gamze have a strange reunion--she's livid that Gamze put herself in danger, but overjoyed to see her again
>Seems to think that she needs to buy Gamze's freedom from her family, and got herself deep into debt trying to raise money
>Had to high-tail it to Kelmarayn and start fighting in an arena for prize money
>The KO'd monsters that weren't killed get rounded up and dumped in a pile
>PCs get some drinks from the one-eyed gnoll bartender
>Start hitting the sauce real hard
>Shanan is still kind of sulking over his crisis of conscience
>Essa decides to have a little fun with Wahida due to her makeup being mostly berry juice, blood, or worse
>Casts create water
>Harpy has become enraged!
>While everyone laughs, she leaps onto Essa and starts tearing at her clothes
>Just barely avoids revealing her gender due to trying to cover her face and screeching about how she's ugly
>She's not, of course, except for maybe a few scars
>Shanan manages to calm her down by holding her and telling her she's pretty before evening out her hair a bit
>Haleen has been sharing some wine with Gamze in her own room and catching up
>She isn't quite sure whether she's Gamze's actual sister, but treates her as such all the same
>Orlan and Shanan have a heart-to-heart and reconcile over their attitude towards fallen opponents
>Gnoll bartender offers prisoners Kardswann had taken, since by gnoll rules the PCs won all he owned
>It's a couple of Chelish adventurers
>Everyone starts grabbing whatever looks like it might be of value
>Planning to relocate back to the monastery next session

>>53284908
>>53284935
>>53284945
Orlan and Gamze are the power couple.

>>53284986
Gamze's Pariya-San, right?

>>53285097
Yeah

>>53284908
>>53284935
>>53284945
This stinks of lewd. I was told this wasn't a lewd game.

>>53285128
Where's the lewd?

>>53285108
Cute. I adore Otoyomegatari. I'm shocked no one applied with an Amir.

>>53285158
most of the applicants were foreigners.

>>53285182
Amir would probably have to be foreign too, though, really. Katapesh nomads aren't that Turkic, are they? I thought they were more Bedouin trash than that.

>>53285190
They're a mishmash

>>53285190
When I say foreigner, I mean people born and raised many thousands of miles away in a different country. There's an Osirian, which isn't too much of a stretch, then a woodland elf who went native in Katapesh, and then there's just a big northern brute in full plate who doesn't fit at all into the setting.

>>53282874
I predict TSS falling apart soon.
Nobody's expecting Rory to /pick/ the joke apps, but actively deleting them means that people will lose interest in the app spectacle, and so the game will get less attention in general, and fewer additional serious apps.

Heavy talk about changing apps to fit the tone might also discourage a number of the current applications, and the overall drop in enthusiasm will make Rory decide it's not worth it to run.

>>53285236
That's too bad. I was hoping for an opportunity to get close to DHB's character for a little R&R at some point.

>>53285236
Let's not make this more glamorous than it is, this is just Rory going "Oh GMing is hard woops"

>>53285236
How much should a DM go about establishing their intentions for a game's apps and tone anyways?

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>>53285346
Say what you will about Fluffy Tale, it had really good tone and theme setting.

>>53285346
As much as humanly possible

Overlewd was such a fucking mess because the DM wouldn't make any firm statements on tone

So what kind of adjustments should you make for ABP?

>>53285353
I still believe Fluffy Tale was entirely a grand scheme ruse. Fluffy 1 anon acted like they got bullied out of it but immediately made the Fluffy 2 account and switched personalities to give the reboot an air of integrity built off /pfg/'s guilt over Fluffy 1.

They bamboozled pfg twice.

>>53285368
>Allow people to choose whether they get the physical or mental stat boost first
>Remove natural armor bonuses, refund WBL accordingly
>Let people to choose to opt in or not to the weapon and armor bonuses because they're completely wasted on caster-types or soulknives
>Let attunement apply to anything they pick up, the 1 day attunement thing is just cumbersome

>tfw I have too many characters i want to play

>And I will never have the time to play them

>>53285428
Why the natural armor bonus, anon?

>>53285473
It's the most useless type of AC bonus there is.
At higher levels, AC quickly becomes obsolete as a primary defense anyway, and the real threats are touch attacks, which natural armor doesn't help against.

>>53285512
Not having AC is still much worse than having it.

Being hit by two iteratives is a lot less unpleasant than getting hit by four.

>>53285512
"AC becomes worthless" is an awful meme that's probably killed a lot of PCs. Attack bonuses on monsters don't get high enough for that to really be true, unless you think an AC that gives enemies anything better than a 5% chance to hit you on their first attack is worthless.

Even fucking CRB only fighters and barbarians with no feats invested in defense can pull an AC high enough to matter against CR 18+ monsters on a budget, and most classes have access to better options.

>HV taking apps again
Why not just pick from the runners up in the previous run?

>>53285583
Really? Is the game cursed or something? First group carried some big red flags but I thought the newer party was /pfg/s with reputation.

>>53284908
>>53284935
>>53284945
So did Gamze and Orlan basically take on a CR6 threat by themselves?

>>53285583
It is? I was not informed, and i'm playing!

>>53285601
Hard to tell if its the players or Gm that has a problem at this point. First

Could be shitters shitting up the game or could be the gm no longer having the drive.

>>53285618
Full initiators will do that.

>>53285630
>>53285601
Or maybe the GM just made a mistake and relisted by accident? Once again, I'm in the game and I've heard nothing

>>53285639
Full initiator and a full spell caster. One owns combat, the other owns everything else. I would be surprised if they couldn't.

>>53285649
Its on the lfg with one open slot tho

Any class that wants good scores in every mental ability?

>>53285657
Oh...

So it is.

I think that means one of our people dropped for personal reasons.

>>53285673
My condolences. Personal reasons are a real menace on roleplayers.

>>53285673
This is why you shoulda taken dr evil

>>53285533
That's true, but many builds won't appreciate having a chunk of their WBL taken away to spend on Natural Armor against their will.

>>53285580
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fqPgj0pBGpgxPXI9lUEsipZiBKYaONFx1W-A-IO8rI0/edit?usp=drivesdk
AC becomes less than 50% effective as a defense past level 9, unless you invest much heavier into it.
Which you can't, because ABP doesn't let you buy AC boosts early.

>>53285673
Is there going to be another reboot?
You guys are never getting out of starter town.

>>53285778
I fucking hope not and don't think so I can't do another reboot.

At this rate i'm going to be the last original member ahaha

>>53285807
I think you guys should probably continue as 5 for a bit. Get some time to get organized. I wish you the best though, a sudden drop with no players aware is always concerning.

Anon wishes you and your lost player well.

>>53285837
Honestly you can afford to lose a whole bunch and it would be fine. Aps can be run by 4 15 pb crb jobbers so a few 25 pb gestalts can cleave through it.

>>53285874
Argentum knows how to remake encounters though and does so on a regular basis, this isn't really running vanilla HV in any way

>>53285889
Whose next in line? Maybe Fleur since that pc has been apping twice and always gets runner up?

>>53285916
Asking the wrong person, I'm just christmas cake with a katana

>>53285928
Gross!

>>53285916
Seeing Fleur get in would be fun, though I think now that they're in PLD and Shardwalkers they might not have the time.

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>>53285984
Magic game is opposite weeks from HV (I would know since i'm in both...)

>>53285980
I'll kill you for that.

>>53285995
Broodie please go.

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>>53286030
I refuse.

Its 4:30, I can't sleep at all, so.

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It's a new day, /pfg/, the perfect day to thank your DM for all they do to make your games a success.

Say Thank You today, Anon. It would mean the world to them!

>>53286169
I was going to GM today but a tree branch fell on the internet cable and took my connection out for six hours

>>53286190
I'm really sorry that happened, Anon. Is everything okay now?

I want to play a nine-tailed kitsune but I know taking all those picks of Magical Tail doesn't give you that much bang for the buck.

Assuming I wanted to do it anyway, what would let me make the most of the SLAs?

>>53286207
Yes but one player's work timetable changes after this week and currently the only new time we can all make it is 3am sunday for some players which is very awkward

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Where is wist

>>53286231
Snuggling with me RIGHT NOW

>>53286242
Please treat her well

>>53286242
While I watch! And cry!

Is DAA a bamboozle? Exhack seems to have stoppd responding to inquiries.

>>53286231
I heard she had apps for TSS and ROaB in the works but then TSS cracked down on silly apps and ROaB went... yeah.

>>53286312
Succubed deserved to get in desu
Literally WHAT is Overlewd's theme?

>>53286322
memes and ERP is overlewd's theme

>>53286328
Succubed is the memeist of them all, even more than 4916 and Wist is an Inanna-class ERPer

>>53286231
As someone who knows Wist personally: she finds this whole meme hilarious. She never expected the Succubed to become such a meme, and it has all of us in her gaming group giggling.

Well, one of her groups, anyways.

>>53286532
You know her personally, as in, you know her in real life, or you know her over Roll20?

>>53286540
I've never met her in person, but we've been chatting for the better part of a year and a half now over skype; me and the rest of the group we're in.

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>>53283102
1) The average campaign length is unfortunately somewhere around 0 sessions. This is in no way preferred but simply due to a very large number of aborts - sometimes in the application phase but most often somewhere in the vicinity of "an intro session this week" (never happening).

2) Rather than yes or no it's instead relative to what level of power you want the PCs to have in relation to the world around them. It's likely preferable to grant a small number of extra abilities to some of the weaker classes/builds once the group is chosen; Vigilantes don't need no help, but if they've got a non-unchained monk in the group, maybe the latter could use a free VMC or something.

Gestalt is also less required if tax feats are covered by the various consolidation houserules like "elephant in the room". Much of the fuckup on some classes is caused by having nothing more than your levelling feats yet needing 4-5 feats for the build to even come online properly, usually due to shit design of the "look it's totally working by 20th lol" variety.

3) Well there's certainly no lack of "lewd" stuff so there's no need for more of that. Seriously. There was gonna be a mecha/sci-fi campaign but it got aborted a few days ago. No one ever seems to want to run something in the style of starjammer either... But a GM that isn't making the game/story HE wants to run will end up not running the game at all, as we've seen quite often in this place.

>PLD is tomorrow
>Still no DRAKED logs
P O S T L O G S
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>>53286867
>DRAKED
What? Did someone get nutted by a dragon, what's even going on?

Hey /pfg/, what animal makes for your favorite animal companion?

>>53286998
Tiger, partially because it's easy to work with mechanically, partially because Calvin and Hobbes a best. A shame it's so hard to get a companion with a good Int score, though.

>>53286998
Horse. I love these guys, lots of personality and makes for a great duo with old veterans.

Maybe thats what I will app for Ironfang, Some drunken cynic and his ill tempered horse.

Is gestalt really that bad?

>>53287090
It really depends on the GM in my opinion.

>>53286995
The new character showed up, and got pounced by three dozen drakes, who are taking turns with her and passing her around while smoking fine cigars and whiskey!

>>53287130
>the new character showed up and got passed around
Typical really

>>53287130
Did we even get a greentext of that? What happened to PLD greentexts?

>>53287090
On one hand, it lets you do stuff like attaching Phanton Thief URogue to any striker class for out of combat versatility.
On the other, there's your Warlord//Oracle, Aegis//Soulknife, or something akin that just bumps up the numbers and goes to town being at a much higher optimization level in its role.

>>53286998
Sorico.

Who doesn't want a medium sized space rabbit that can be a cute, cuddly dust bunny one moment and a bloodythirsty killing machine the next?

>>53287090
Depends on the content you make available and how big of a bitch your players end up being. For example, a (Scaled Fist) UMonk||Avowed (Body) will likely make encounters a joke with no effort and be a monster to take down. An (Empiricist) Investigator||(Kensai) Magus will maybe blow up something if he's lucky, and have lots of utility, but won't break much. A fullcaster||anything will be as broken as they would be in a normal game, IE "only as much as the player tries to break shit", but maybe a bit harder to take down.

>>53287159
*Phantom Thief
Also, as a third option, there's also the cool builds that usually aren't possible without gestalt like Sword and Pistol comboes or Enter the Vortex blast builds, but if they work, they generally end up being on the same side of the Warlord//Oracle and Aegis//SK even if they are much more unique and awesome.

Galtian campaign when? Who doesn't want hidden princesses and soul-capturing guillotines?

>>53287141
Temeria was in a private IC, the last greentext only covered up to Lysander vanishing?

And it was only 3, one of which got killed

>>53287248
yeah why didn't we get Temeria's greentext though? Do the other players technically not know yet or something?

>Luna being a cunt before the game even begins.

Gee, I didn't see that coming.

>>53287283
What?

>>53287159
>>53287181
Actually, I wonder how much out of combat utility a Phantom Thief URogue|Empiricist has.

>>53287263
Because Temeria hasnt posted? I can ask her to

>>53287322
Do it

>>53287305
Well, at a glance, assuming you're 16 Int, you've got 11/level skill ranks (minimum), +2 to three skills, unlocks for those three skills as though you were level 7. If you go half-elf, you can have Orator at level 1 and increase your inspiration bonus by +1/4th a level, which would mean a +1d6+1 from inspiration.

You also have the finesse from rogue to combine with your studied combat, which props you up slightly, though it's unlikely you'll get 1.5x Dex to damage on your weapons but it saves you feats so that's fine.

This isn't a full look, since I totally ignored what talents you'll take and what extracts you'll have, but you're sitting pretty good so far at just knowing all the things.

>>53287404
And I forgot to say this is at level 5 for some reason, the fuck

is mindtech psychic any good in Iron Gods?

>>53283102
>3. Are there any particular themes you haven't seen in /pfg/ games before that you really like?
A normal fucking game with low magic? Roleplay-heavy?

Professional Alchemist who takes notes on everything, so he tends to read everything before signing, and make sure he has a copy of whatever he's signed.

Gotta make sure you don't get jipped on rewards when you finish a quest.

Is the anon that reviews Mighty Quest apps here today?

so what happened with TTS?

>>53287557
Bamboozle

>>53287557
Rory is collapsing under the weight of approaching decisions.

>>53287603
Lets be honest, he never really had any plans to run that game and just wanted a little more attention.

He'll go back and forth with wanting to run it and cancel it over the next few weeks, squeezing out as much attention as possible before ultimately pulling some bullshit reason not to go through with it.

Not a big deal though, only a fool would put any amount of time into applying for his games.

>>53287603
Yeah, pretty much. If we go by his stated problems, he's said that the number of apps that fit the tone and are acceptable are too small for him to make a party with.

>>53287656
>he's said that the number of apps that fit the tone and are acceptable are too small for him to make a party with.
I don't believe that. He wanted indiana jones, plenty of folks fit that.

>>53287656
>this excuse
It's some porn game. All apps fit. He's nitpicking as shit.

>>53287678
Oh maybe you know, he's that sort of GM that's just anal about anyone that isn't directly Indiana Jones himself.

You know in a hgh-fantasy setting like Golarion.

>>53287489
Literally impossible in pathfinder, not without enough houserules that it's less work playing literally anything else with less to learn as well.

Oh and low magic isn't really supported either too.

Why can't we just have a good non-smut campaign set in Golarion that doesn't read like some buttfuck anime? If it isn't a lust-filled fuckfest like TSS, it's a kawaii uguu romp with big anime eyes.

>>53287794
We need to remove kitsune.

>>53287770
Yeah thought so.

>>53287794
If there were games recruiting for non-autists, by now I'd know. I'm only here because for some reason this is the only place that hosts games. If you guys hate PF rules, why are you not hosting in 5e and such?

>>53287681
>>53287678
He's fishing for excuses. Doesn't mean they'll be good ones.

Once, a GM (not rory) cancelled after one session because we had "no party cohesion whatsoever".

See he'd done an intro scene for one of the players first, and - with no prompting and more than a couple of "okay okay we know, don't worry we'll keep going" from our end - had gone on monologues on things from how large a waitress' breasts were to just how a certain race makes their fucking chairs.

And then after explaining to the second player (of five) where he'd come from and why he was headed to <starter town>, four hours had passed, he had to go to work, and game had ended for the week.

Three days of no-responses later he declared our characters just weren't getting along like he'd expected a good party would at least be capable of doing, and that since we were so antagonistic to each-other he'd have no choice but to call off the game.

We'd never even fucking met.

Another daily reminder that this campaign exists. Don't let the bad guy win, people. Or do, if you are a masochist.

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/77293/ironfang-invasion-adventure-path

Got a question /pg/; I'm running a Rouge/Alchemist set for an upcoming campaign, I'm just wondering is their any type of feat or power that lets me infuse my magic into my poisons?

>>53287811
>>53287794

see >>53287839

>>53287839
I don't understand what's that supposed to be about.

I haven't read the adventure path. What's the theme, the tone? What kind of characters fit in this? Or is it inappropriate to apply without first reading the full AP?

>>53287833
If anything he's realized he shouldn't have started the game to begin with and that he's backed himself into a corner with no way to bow out gracefully. Like the faggot he is.

>>53287877
Of course you don't fucking read the AP. That's like reading a complete walk-through before playing a video game.

Just read the Player's Guide - which you can get free on the paizo site.

>>53287877
>I haven't read the adventure path. What's the theme, the tone? What kind of characters fit in this? Or is it inappropriate to apply without first reading the full AP?
Read the player's guide. It's designed to clarify these questions.

>>53287877
Read the player guide dude. It's basically a campaign where you are all unfortunate bystanders getting caught in a war and have to lead a counteroffensive for the underdog. It has a fairly serious mood, at least from I'm getting.

No one is stopping you from reading the full AP though I prefer you don't because you are only spoiling yourself.

>>53284945
>DHB gets into a drunken fight with a harpy
IS ESSA CUTE YET? I NEED TO KNOW

>>53287843
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/item-creation-feats/infuse-poison-item-creation/

>>53287806

It's too late, anon. Too many humans are taking foxwives. By the time Starfinder rolls around, the population of Golarion will be mostly kitsune.

>>53287977
Foxwives a shit, husbandos are where it's at

>>53287874
This is a PF game; you paying attention?

>>53288043
You weren't excluding PG games. Just games for and by autists. This isn't one. If you think PF is for autist, you sure are acting like an autist yourself.

If you're just here to leech non-existant, non-PF games you should probably stop wasting your time, because there aren't any.

>>53288043
>Campaign set in Golarion
>But not PF
Are you high?

>>53287877
Why is this a question that gets asked every time an AP starts, followed by questions such as "how do we fit our character into the campaign" or "what is the campaign about?"

These APs have Player Guides that not only explain the campaign hook, and not only give you the tone and setting, but it even gives you ideas on how a FIGHTER or DRUID would fit into this particular campaign.

>>53287949
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/item-creation-feats/infuse-poison-item-creation/
aw yeah, thanks anon.
Now my fool's gold strategy is complete.

>>53287924
>Serious mood
>Everyone's missing limbs

Sounds like this campaign doesn't have a leg to stand on.

>>53288118
cricket.wav

>stuck as forever gm
>all the roll20 games I look at dont interest me or have furries/people who clearly want to erp accepted into them already

I just want to play a character and not dmpc man

>>53288083
> If you think PF is for autist
Dude, we were talking about how non-PF games are actually what we want to play

And how there are only PF games
>>53288084
>But not PF
>"This is a PF game"

Are YOU high?!

>>53287839
I would join if there was voice, but if you have something preventing you from using voice that's fine.

>>53288205
>Dude, we were talking about how non-PF games are actually what we want to play
But why talk about that in PATHFINDER general?

>>53288259
Because

There are

No other games

But PF

>>53288101
They only did the class thing in most, not for Ironfang. Also I'm still mad about Paizo recommending for people to play cold characters in Reign of Winter

>>53288302

Who wants to play cold characters in winter campaigns, when you can play fire-based characters and share your warmth with the ones you care about?

>>53288333
That actually fits really well.

>>53288285
Just chug an energy drink and join a game. I've got one player who consistently likes to RP to the point where I changed my GM style. Every session ends with the party being able to just talk.

>>53288333
CUTE

>>53288285
"Boy I sure hate furry conventions, but there are no other conventions in town so I guess I'll go there and complain. Maybe someone will set up an anime convention for me."

K E K
E K E
K E K

>>53288252
I just have a bad stutter that prevents me from join 90% of games. So I make my own one.

>>53288302
What's the problem with recommending cold characters for a cold campaign?

You'd recommend townsfolk for an urban campaign.

>>53288530
Because pretty much 90% of the campaign is atleast resistant, if not immune to cold damage, anon.

>>53288530

Combat-focused game.

Literally every enemy is cold type or gets cold resistance.

Blame it on shitty design paradigms.

Do we have a bestiary 6 pdf yet?

>>53288539
>>53288545

That's like saying you shouldn't play a Paladin in WotR because demons are immune to smite.

>>53288302
You're obviously a strawmanning retard, no use explaining anything seriousky to you, right?

>>53288623
yes, for 2 weeks now
I had forgotten how many reprints end up in bestiaries

I've got a guy in my group who wants to play hell's rebels. How good is this ap?

>>53288631
But they aren't. Demons are quite weak to smite. But yes, if the primary enemy is immune to your primary method of getting shit done you should consider a different concept.

If in this bizarro world demons are immune to a paladin's smite, they're most iconic class feature, then I would not recommend them in Wrath of the Righteous.

>>53288365
Well I am, but its of course that i find nothing more suiting.

>>53288664
I give it five out of five Starbucks, for the gaymers.

>>53288689

Even in that case, WotR gives extra rewards to paladins and basically guarantees them devotion rewards for acting like paladins.

>>53288631
A frost focused blaster, as the AP recommended, is essentially incapable of fighting on CR threats because he can't do damage to them. If he fights a frost immune creature he's essentially a commoner with higher Cha.

>>53288704
Doesn't mean that it's a good idea to play one. If an AP rewarded being a kinetcist doesn't mean you should play one.

Is there a way to disguise the use of spells?

For example, is there any way to make it so that if I cast a Will-save spell and the target successfully saves, they don't realize something tried to affect them?

>>53288696
You should think better of /pfg/ and treat us as a resource.

Find a game that gets close to what you want and apply.
Check out the other apps. Make a note of the ones that fit the style you like.
If you get in, check out how the other players act/react.

From there, you'd be able to pick from people you'd like who improve your game experience or people you'd enjoy running for.

>>53288722
What is wrong with paladins anonchan

>>53288664

It's not the best written, and taking it seriously just makes that all the more apparent. Still, if you can keep a light, CG-friendly atmosphere going, it can work alright.

>>53288727
The assassin prestige has something similar. But spells are pretty notable things.

>>53288704
I don't want to imagine the butthurt that will erupt when a four paladin party gets Radiance.

>>53288716
Which always begged the question why do so many frost focused blasters live there?
>>53288742
Lot's of things, but that's not being discussed. If in some Alternate Universes Demons were immune to smite evil, Paladins would not be a good choice for wrath of the righteous.

>>53288771
Because the peasants aren't immune to ice you big goof.

>>53288797
They aren't immune to fire either.

But all those monsters, dragons, ice trolls, and other things very much are and if I was a wizard setting up shop I'd worry more about those than peasants who may as well be insects to me.

>>53288826
It's an ice realm! People who live in the ice don't develop a fondness for fire and warmth you dingus!

>>53288190
Run a /pfg/ game, anon! That'll get your spirits rolling!

>>53288850
But, the other suggestion for archetypes that I appreciated was a cold aligned invulnerable rager barbarian. Which strangely does fit well and goes against Paizo's example of cold focused casters.

You can only pick one to exist in your aetting: catgirls/boys or elves.

Which do you choose?

How do I get my lewdgame GM to typefuck me without feeling embarrassed asking.

I'm terrible at being the one to take initiative in these things

>>53288898
I choose awooo

>>53288904
Flirt with NPC or tell DM you want to fuck something.

>>53288898
Neither. I hate both races, but if I had to pick, Elves.

>>53288898

Humans only.

But some of those humans wear cat ears on their heads

>>53288735
Im just open to everything, but when people here say PF is bloated and high fantasy and anime, well all I can say is that its not my choice and im not here because i really want

>>53288898

Elves. My reasons for hating them are much more justifiable in-character.

Mighty Quest apps closed, right? Were the results posted?

my PCs don't really enjoy encounter after encounter, and i don't really enjoy it either, so we usually have a maximum of two or three per day (and lots of days without any). but the game is structured to drain their resources in multiple encounters, a few is either too easy or kills them.

how do i create combat encounters that will make them sweat but with a reasonable chance of survival without draining their resources before with some fodder encounters?

>>53288947
The GM was here earlier he said he would later tonight when he gets off work. So if you want to sneak in an app he said thats alright

>>53288898
Elves. Cats are almost always horrible, and usually when I do meet a good one they could've been played as human with no problem.

Elves open up a lot of roleplay space. I'd sooner cut dwarves, halflings and gnomes than elves. I'd unironically pick cats over any of those three, gnomes are the only ones that can be interesting but they always have the worst players.

>>53288951
Fudge rolls left and right, adjust monster stats on the fly.

That's how I do it. It's filthy as fuck but as long as my players don't know everyone is happy. TopKEK when they think I'm an amazing DM.

>>53288951
Tough enemies have a second form they assume after one or two rounds of buildup.

>>53288951

Make it more videogamey in encounter structure with weak glass cannons and sticky, tanky debuffers.

This will encourage pcs to expend more resources in individual encounters to shut out parts of the enemy's formation

>>53288951
Its different ways depending on levels and party comp. What is their level and party comp?

>>53288850

Sounds like the perfect chance to build a monopoly, then.

>>53288973
Humans, Elves and Dragons.

That's literally all you need for a great setting.

>>53288636
What?

>>53288933
Bruh. I'm sorry, but there's only one other place that runs games CONSISTENTLY and CONTINUOUSLY on 4chan and that is /mlp/. They've got a nice little homebrew system that can handle low fantasy sort-of okayish.

Just do some stretches, get some air, and submit to one of the pre-Starfinder games being made.

How many meme games are going to collapse when everyone realizes they'd rather play a Starfinder campaign than Pathfinder?

My vote is Blingmaker and the RotJRs.

>>53289025
>only boards that run games are /tg/ and /mlp/

So only degenerates can host games. It's like it's 1974 again.

>>53289025
I would like to know more about these /mlp games

>>53289065
Fucking all of them

>>53289069
Just hit Catalog view on /mlp/ and search for FEMTO or Simple10. They usually run during the American evening, and new games are starting up now that classes are ending.

PS, I've encountered Fantasy Craft, Pathfinder, Ponyfinder, DnD oficina numerous editions, and several Fallout Equestria games thanks to them. Make friends and get invited.

>>53289025
Fuck my life, you know?

>>53289065

>joining /pfg/ games in the first place

>>53289065
If the rules are sufficiently interesting I will quit what campaigns I'm in to get into a Starfinder campaign.

>>53289122
*DnD of numerous editions

>>53289127
Most Pony settings let you play non-ponies, like Gryphons and Gorilla Dogs. Once you get past the pastel paint, most are the same thing you're already used to with more horse puns.

>>53289142

.....

What the fuck is a gorilla dog

>>53289163
It's a big muscle dog, a bit like Gnolls except a bit more ugly, just as slave take-y and a lot less rapey.

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>>53289163
I have a gorilla.

I have a dog.

Gorilla dog!

>>53284908
>>53284935
>>53284945
So what is the state of the shipping?

>>53287928
Getting cuter!

>>53289200
That sounds like a diamond dog, not a "gorilla dog".

>>53289200
>>53289236

So it's gonna be Gloriana's new baby

>>53289236
Close enough.

>>53289217
The package is being manhandled by customs.
If you're lucky, they'll be done with it in a week and it'll be only half-broken and clearly already used.

What does Slayer do better than normal rogues? Is it more boring? Can you be a ranged fighter with it?

>>53289236
Yeah, but I didn't want to accidentally summon Barney. Just wanted to give the guy other options besides ponies he can play as, such as a Donkey immune to mind control or a Buffalo who has big guts and can resist being ripped and torn.

>>53289283
Slayers are better than rogues in basically every combat situation by a long shot. They can swing big weapons, they're very competent archers, maybe the only class under 1pp that makes TWF look decent, and option into combat maneuvers very well. Not really kings in most categories but they can mix combat styles and still be passable in other aspects of the game.

As far as playstyle goes they can pretty much do everything rogues do in combat with more options so I'd say they're more fun. Practically the only notable advantage rogues have is skill unlocks.

>>53289292
>MLP
It had to happen at some point so sure, lets have a pony discussion.

I am ashamed to admit ti but since this is pfg, bastion of degeneracy. I would say that I avoid mlp and despise pony posting because deep inside I find these ponies adorable. My favorite is that teacher with the bubblegum hair and thinking about her after seeing that one episode made me think that if I look at these things long enough or read about them often enough, my brain could go crazy and tell me its ok to be sexually attracted to these things.

I mean I'll be honest, if that bubblegum teacher (miss daisy?)_ was a party member or an NPC in a campaign I was playing in, I would probably try to fuck her, consequences be damned.

Before anybody makes a new thread, remember there's another /pfg/ in holding when this one is on its way out:

>>53281800
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>>53289329
>Practically the only notable advantage rogues have is skill unlocks.

Finesse Fighting and debilitating strike are pretty big deals...

>>53289329
Are they a good class to multiclass into once you've completed 5 levels of Gunslinger?

>>53289372

That's some quality degeneracy, anon. Pursue your dreams! Disgusting fetishes are there to be explored.