Thoughts on Numenera? I just bought the vidya adaptation and

>>53274711
I seem to recall that whenever this thread comes up the usual verdict is that it has a reasonably interesting setting, but doesn't make enough of it, and the mechanics are desperately average at best.

TL; DR - 'Nice setting, shame about the game'.

The current opinion is that it's an interesting premise that squanders it. The Cypher System is fairly interesting mechanically.

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nu-men era is just another step in the constant decline of rpg's since the poison of the SJWs crept in

Neat but wasted concept with a subpar system

>>53276077
As a gay man, I really despise how much people trivialize this like this for the purpose of flavor.

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Nice art, interesting if flawed setting, shitty, shitty system. I don't regret buying the corebook or a bunch of PDFs but the chance I'll ever actually run or play a game of this is incredibly slim. Or that I'll spend more money on anything Cypher related.

I'd do terrible things for a Book of the New Sun game though.

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>>53276077
As an honest to god faggot, this makes me cringe.

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>>53276485
faggot

>>53276773
ok

>>53274711
I really like it. It's a fun, simple game and the Cypher system creates a lot of really interesting situations.

>>53276077
Ah yes, that supplement was a little strange...

Good if you are a numale cuck. Bad of you are a sane human being. It is literally Anthony Burch's favorite tabletop game and that should be all you need to know.

>>53274711
I'm currently running a Numenera Campaign with some friends and I have to agree with /tg/ on this one.
The setting is pretty nice but mechanically is pretty bad. It's a good system if your group or DM is new though.

What about the system makes it so shit?

I'm really disappointed at how little Numenra actually uses its main premise. Earth a billion years hence and litter with the remains and descendants of countless posthuman empires and treating poorly understood relics as magic sounds pretty rad, but it basically just winds up being yet another rpg tainted by Monte Cook and 3.PF. Pretty much everything is just reskined D&D style fantasy with the occasional exception shoved in your face to say "no guys look it's sci fi". It feels like someone's shitty homebrew d20 campaign, because it basically is. Same thing goes for the Strange. Neat idea wasted on a shit game

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>>53277655
Its made by somebody who is only really familiar with d20 but has heard about this new-fangled "Fate" thing and wants to give it a try.

There's some potentially good ideas in there: I like the XP distribution in GM intrusions and the Descriptor-Class-Who Does Thing chargen. But its overshadowed by things like your attribute pool being both your HP and the points you spend to do better on rolls. Or XP being both used for character advancement or Fate Point-type "adding things to the setting" spending.

There's more but I can't remember right now.

>>53277655
Overly simple where it needs crunch and overly complex where it should be streamlined, and mechanics that basically double down on caster supremacy. Combat doesn't give XP by raw, exploration and discovery do. The class with by far the most ability to fulfil those criteria is the not-wizard, who also quickly gets better than the not-fighter at combat, too.

Personally, i'm a big fan of the game, system and mechanics. Often hated by people still wedded to D&D/PF but as a GM I find it an amazing system to run.

Get the core book, don't waste time to the starter set. The box set feels more like a sampler than a fleshed-out product IMO

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>>53277735
I think one of the main failings of the setting is that it tried to do too much with the concept and crammed a bunch of shit into a leaking kitchen sink.

>>53274711
Anything that makes autists on 4chan upset is good by my book

I like that it upsets retards.

>>53274711
Everything about Numenera is "almost good" in my opinion. Both the setting and the system are kind of just lacking a bit to pull them together, but the ideas behind them are great and I'd love to see a more polished take on the fluctuating competence of characters in particular.

>>53277790
>Overly simple where it needs crunch and overly complex where it should be streamlined, and mechanics that basically double down on caster supremacy.

This so much. This "streamlined" system has more feats and trap options (with all the supplements) than all of D&D 3E, for fuck's sake. It's like Monte learned nothing since 1999.

Setting is meh too. I enjoyed the cipher and numenera lists and some of the setting details, but too much of it is "fantasy setting with superpower guy totally science fantasy".

It has very little of the setting flavour from something like New Sun or Viriconium or The Dying Earth.

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I would have loved it if it had gone into truly strange Moebius psychedelic Voyage to Arcturus territory, both in setting and mechanics, but it decided to be bland instead.

We need a Moebius RPG.

>>53276077

There's something deeply disgusting with how they say their world is hyper-diverse because it's as big as ours but, "because there isn't Mass Media, it's not one big block of one option." It screams to me of a child born and coddled by Globalism, who detested History class and fails to realize that culture, while diverse, isn't quite as diverse as they might think it is.

>>53279803
How would you even represent that mechanically?

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Anyone got some high-tech fantasy art/high fantasy sci-fi art? Since it's something numenera's got a lot of, and I've already stripped the Endless Legend General's selection clean, I figure I should ask here

>>53279840
That's a typical problem with these types of games; they're fueled by inexperienced pseudo-intellectuals budding with pretension.

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>>53280211
Like this?

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>>53284475
I guess that works yeah. I suppose I should post more myself.

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>>53284475
I guess stuff like this is what I mean

Running a Nums game as a GM with a group at the moment.
Its a good system if your group isn't "FIGHT EVERYTHING" as the combat system is weak.


Apart from that, like anything, it is what you make it.

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>>53284611
All breddy good, here's some less valiant stuff

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>>53285281
I have somewhat less valiant stuff myself, but I figure it would have been harder to convey the blend I was going for without it. I've been hoarding a lot of Numenera, Endless Legend/Space, and Destiny art in my searches, since they seem to get what I'm going for aesthetically.

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>>53276422
Even worse, most stuff on the setting is horribly bland.

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>>53279681

What are some of those feats and trap options?

>>53276077

why are so many of the social justice crowd trying to get into writing for games and tabletop nowadays?

none of them gave a shit 5 years ago

>>53287621

>Niche hobby experiences massive growth in fanbase in last five years
>"Why is [new demographic not traditionally associated with hobby] now a part of the hobby?"

Think before you post.

>>53285293

>stalker 2

I'm still upset

>>53287695
Now I'm wondering how well stalker could run in numenera...

>>53274711

The game does Numenera much, much better than Monte Cook ever did.

>>53287759
I fucking loved the game, ending seemed kinda rushed though

Nice system, nice setting, nice book layout.

Gets shitted by people who hate its creator and people who don't understand that the setting is just a framework( and some examples) and that the GM is required to build his own version on top of it.

It's not perfect but most of its detractors hate it for reasons external to the game or because they don't understand it and take their own assumptions as part of the game.

>>53287860
BUT HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO ENJOY IT IF OTHER PEOPLE ENJOY IT REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>53276077
>why?
>because we must virtue signal as hard as possible while reducing the very real difficulties faced by actual homosexuals and transsexuals to a goofy quirk of a role playing game.

SJW narratives have come full circle to being offensive to actual members of the groups they love to shoehorn into everything.

>>53274711
Setting is solid 7/10. A lot of neat concepts put into it. And while it feels underdeveloped, it also leaves a lot of free space to use it by GM.
Crunch is literally perfect 5/10, being average of average. It's not bad, it's not good, it works, but without any fanfare, but also no scrunching noises.

>>53288628
Just hope to sweet Jesus you get a good dm that knows how to write a story and read descriptions

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>>53276077
This

>>53287621
All niche hobbies primarily enjoyed by whites are being commie-fied

>>53276077
>>53290304

Waaaaah games are trying to relate to people other than meee

Games are miiiine waaaaaah

>>53290436
Why do you ghazi cucks even come here

>>53290436
That's not "relatable" it's fawning, creepy and more than a little insulting.

>>53290436
Kotaku pls go

>>53290436
>nu-male buzzword faggot detected

>>53290623
Isn't kotaku nothing but ads and autistic articles about nintendo games at this point?

>>53290911
Probably. I don't know, I don't go there any more.

>>53290572

Its not relatable to you... is it that hard to understand? You don't relate to it. Yeah, thats why its there. If games never changed with the times we would all be sitting around playing gin rummy you dolt

>>53291553
> You don't relate to it. Yeah, thats why its there.
> it is included because you, personally, do not relate to it
May want to work on that english-comp mate.

More importantly,
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>>53291553
When LGBT themes are used as a fashionable window dressing for a product and slathered with a fawning, patronising tone that does not make it "relatable" to fucking anyone.

I find it intensely and personally offensive as a LGBT person.

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>>53290021
>Just hope to sweet Jesus you get a good dm that knows how to write a story and read descriptions
So you mean any half-decent GM?
You must apparently come from some dark place where semi-competence passes as being a genius.

>>53290304
I'm black and I understand where that post is coming from.
>>53290514
>>53290572
>>53290623
>>53290644
You /pol/ folk don't get it and lash out because you don't understand and assume it's an attack on white people.
Black Americans don't have a place in the fantasy/nerd culture that is popular in America so it's offputting to us.
Imagine a fantasy setting with no white people. Imagine if the most popular fantasy settings had zero white people. Sounds insane right? For us it's reality. And if you had the slightest bit of empathy you know that doesn't feel good. You /pol/ kids won't admit it, but it's obviously how you would feel about that hypothetical from every instance you guys overreact whenever minorities are put in media.
It's like we don't exist and the thought of our existence is a plague. You know how you self insert into a story? Whoops there's no niggers in that setting, it would be too weird. So we either have to double down on the focus on race ( haha I am the only black person in this setting and since I'm already self inserting I'm even more of a special snowflake ) and then have to further lie and pretend everything in that setting likes the blackness even though everything in reality says that's impossible or ignore race entirely. This is a dilemma normal nerds don't have to even think about.
Do you know how it feels like knowing that even if anime was real your waifu would think you were disgusting on a level even more than the normal neckbeard otaku? I am insane but my point is that race is important in fantasy and white guys take it for granted that they can feasibly exist in most settings even asian ones.

White women are a bit more aware of this cognitive dissonance problem which is why they are more prone to the sjw "insert minorities everywhere" mindset.

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>standard fantasy shit but with a technology flavor
wow, what a great setting

>>53294503 con't
>Well why don't blacks make their own settings if they feel so bad about this?
The same reason 99.99% of white people don't: their ideas are shit and lack the discipline and talent to create a world other people will care about that's worth fantasizing about
Add on to the "we wuz" memes ( thanks, /pol/ for making it worse ) that means even if someone DOES manage to do so, now the target audience ( and don't pretend there isn't a massive overlap between /pol/ memesters and nerds ) can't take it seriously because memes. It would be like if Sega tried to make a serious Sonic game. No matter how good it is, it's only going to get "pssh, nothin personnel" in response.
And even if this miracle of creativity got past that, you would still have the issue of most nerds plain aren't interested in a fantasy setting with a black focus. Black Americans have fuck all to do with Africa (barring Egypt because it's mythology is legitimately cool. But egypt isn't actually Black) at this point, so screw fantasy derived from African folklore not even blacks are interested in that.
So that leaves...American folklore? Well, that's not really 'ours' either so we have to share. That would be fine, but modern American folklore is mostly just a rip off of Native American folklore. I wouldn't want to do that to them for my own sake.
An alternative is Modern Fantasy, but fuck that.
Wild West? I've considered it, but it's plain not popular enough.
That basically leaves futuristic settings, but at that point race is a non-factor. Sure you can self insert, but it's not "sword and board" fantasy anymore. Also good luck competing with Star Wars.

I've just needed to rant about that for a while now feels good to get that off my chest.
tl;dr Blacks have no fantasy creative endeavor canon to call their own, feels creatively empty man.

>>53294503
>You know how you self insert into a story?
No, actually. I hate myself and go out of my way to have my characters be someone different from myself, although with enough similar (mental) characteristics that I can roleplay them decently. Even the qualifier isn't necessarily true, since I've had a lot of fun with characters who I'd deeply disagree with on pretty much everything.

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>>53294717
Check out Imaro. I didn't read it but I heard good things about it. And even if it isn't as good as I have been tol, it's a start.

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>>53294717
>Blacks have no fantasy creative endeavor canon to call their own, feels creatively empty man

CREATE ONE THEN FFS

>>53294743
>I hate myself and go out of my way to have my characters be someone different from myself,
It's not the same man.
When you create [generic human fighter], what is your mental image? Probably some muscular armored white guy, right? Me too. That's entirely the problem. There is the cognitive dissonance of my "generic person" mental imagine being a white guy when I am in fact black.
So while you deliberate choose to roleplay something different than yourself, that is my default state. I have to actively think about it to say "Oh wait this character I'm playing is black".
I don't expect you understand I can only give examples that might help you empathize with the discomfort I'm feeling on a spiritual level.
It's kind of like every time you thought "generic human person" you got a mental image of "pointy ear elf". It's totally fine until you actually start think about why this is.

>>53294804
The synopsis sounds interesting, thanks.

>>53294892
Literally the first couple of lines
>The same reason 99.99% of white people don't: their ideas are shit and lack the discipline and talent to create a world other people will care about that's worth fantasizing about
Even if I tried it would be shit and I'd rather be reading the Silmarillion instead.

Would you go to /wbg/ and read about some autists setting? Neither would I. And because we both are aware of this fact, you know why I'm not even going to bother trying even if I do have some ideas myself. They can stay in my head where they won't bother anyone else.

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>>53294556
I dunno man, if it's done right it can be pretty cool, it just needs to feel cohesive rather than one tacked onto the other. Like, I unno, Spelljammer, or Eberron, fantasy with higher tech can be fun to play with.

>>53294935
reasonable/10

>>53287670
I wouldn't call it massive. Tabletop rpgs are still pretty niche, if you're not thinking of very popular stuff like DnD or WoD you'd be hard pressed to find a group

>>53294400
Ye

>>53294503
I'm a /pol/ you stupid nigger. I'm a gay black dude who doesn't live in a fantasy world where American culture hates minorities (It fucking doesn't and American people don't hate minorities either).

fucking kill yourself

>>53294503
>I can't empathize with people who aren't black: the post

>>53295913
> I'm a gay black dude
Yeah I totally believe you
>American people don't hate minorities either
Which is why the cultural backlash from rural white America was so strong after Obama Trump was elected president, right?
>>53295930
If you read my other post you would realize my issue is that I empathize with whites more readily than I empathize with black characters despite being black. Even /pol/tards know something is wrong when you empathize with another race sooner than you do your own.

>>53295978
>You don't agree with me, therefore you don't exist!
For real, kill yourself.

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>>53294935

>Even if I tried it would be shit and I'd rather be reading the Silmarillion instead.

The thing is very few people can just make a thing and have it be perfect on their first try. You have to practice man. Make a thing, then step back and realize why it's shitty. Then make another thing.

I think you're just psyching yourself out and getting caught up trying to have a clear genre template on top of making something that is appealing to an audience. You don't really need to wholesale jack a genre like western or swords and sorcery so much as jack ideas you like from it. "White people fantasy" is only based off of Europe in that a couple of iconic elements are taken from them and then warped and distorted in an overly long game of telephone. Fuck, D&D is a clusterfuck of stolen ideas that have settled into a cohesive whole over 40+ years.

I know this thread has veered off somewhat into bait territory, but I feel like you might have dug yourself into a slump. It's clear you've put some thinking into this, so I'd hate to see that reach a dead end.

>>53296235
Only some roleplaying /pol/tard is insecure enough to lash out with that level of vitriol.
I posted something pretty benign, not even approaching the level of "American culture hates minorities" but in typical /pol/tard fashion you got offending over nothing and got incredibly asshurt and triggered.
Yeah, I don't believe you're just a gay black dude who has nothing to do with /pol/.
You got caught.

>>53296376
You don't understand why saying "You're just from /pol/" as a means to dismiss what people are saying because they disagree with you. Then saying "Oh well you can't possibly be gay or black, because you disagree with me" would make someone angry?

You have no concept of empathy, at all and I cannot comprehend what goes through your head when you say shit like that.

>>53296311
>You have to practice man. Make a thing, then step back and realize why it's shitty. Then make another thing.
Just taking the first step is incredibly hard. I've tried to start writing and I get less than 2000 words before I think it's awful beyond redemption and give up.
>"White people fantasy" is only based off of Europe in that a couple of iconic elements are taken from them and then warped and distorted in an overly long game of telephone.
But the fun is you can still see the source inspirations, and those sources can still give inspirations for new spins and takes on the cliche. It also makes it way easier for a prospective writer? Don't like cliche elves but still want elves? Just read up on some european folklore and what you don't have the dedication to research too deeply your sheer cultural osmosis can make up the gap. This is the reason why I think Japan does western fantasy so well while the west is so awful at eastern fantasy ( for now, once the westerners feels more comfortable embracing the anime they consumed they will be way better at this ). Japanese basically had western culture forced on them, so they are familiar enough with the folklore enough to be able to research more if they want to. Westerners don't really know much about asian culture or care so when we do it, it's highly researched that doesn't feel natural at all or shallow stereotypes
Likewise, "Black fantasy" is way more difficult because there's not much culture osmosis involved to even know where to begin. "African folklore"? Literally have to hit up wikipedia to even know what their 'iconic' monsters are
>>53296498
>Then saying "Oh well you can't possibly be gay or black, because you disagree with me" would make someone angry?
No, I said "you can't possibly be gay or black not because you disagree with me but because your post has an inappropriate level of hostility and insecurity usually only seen by /pol/tards who think someone said something bad about white people"

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>>53294717
I'm a full-on pollack and I disagree with some of your assessments, but I appreciate the thoughtful posts you wrote. It's pretty rare for a black to write something that isn't Angry Leftist Non-White Dissing Whites for Being White, and I genuinely feel for your position, mang.

Don't have time to write a long post, but don't you think actors like Will Smith have made black lead scifi pretty commonplace, popular and accessible to whites and blacks both? Fantasy doesn't have a Will, but then fantasy as a tv or movie medium wasn't really popular with whites either until very, very recently, so we had no role models either.

>>53296585
Suppose for a second that I am telling the truth and what you just did was:

1) accuse me of being a racist from /pol/
2) claim that you don't believe that a number of things about me that have obvious had a huge impact on my life aren't real
3) obtusely pretend that you don't understand why this would make someone angry

I think my level of hostility is entirely appropriate.

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>>53274711

Another for the chorus of "cool concept, questionable execution". I think they hewed too close to the D&D mold and should have gone a little bolder. I'm in the early stages of running a game now and the jury's out for me in terms of the mechanics.

That said, if you really put your own stamp on it I think it can go places. I'm basically running it as a more culturally animist Phantasy Star right now and two sessions in I think the players are starting to get the vibe.

What's the latest on Jade Colossus? Legit excited for that splat.

>>53296636
>but don't you think actors like Will Smith have made black lead scifi pretty commonplace, popular and accessible to whites and blacks both?
Yeah and that's probably one of the reasons why immersion isn't devastated when there are black people in science fiction. But when it comes to fantasy, blacks existing is more immersion shattering than magic and dragons, as evidenced by /tg/ when this topic comes up.
>>53296691
>I think my level of hostility is entirely appropriate.
You were posting /pol/-tier vitriol at the same time you claimed to be black and gay.
Especially
>"a fantasy world where American culture hates minorities",
Really dude? How did you get that from my post? It makes you sound like another insecure /pol/ poster eager to snap at the sjw boogeyman.
So yeah I'm going to be dismissive.

>>53279856
>How would you even represent that mechanically?
Combat is minimalist and deadly; players can influence other PCs with social skills. Sex refreshes your HP pool.

>>53296787
Basically I read the first two lines of your post and lost my shit.

>>53296757
Still releasing in august :(

>>53296787

Wasn't the main dude in Earthsea a black dude? That could be a jumping off point

>>53296930
>Basically I read the first two lines of your post and lost my shit.

>You /pol/ folk don't get it and lash out because you don't understand and assume it's an attack on white people.
>Black Americans don't have a place in the fantasy/nerd culture that is popular in America so it's offputting to us.
You mean these two first two lines, emphasis on the former? Which you then in >>53295913 seems like you understood the line explicitly stating that you are mistaking things you don't understand as an attack on white people, as an attack on Americans ( basically white people )

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>>53296930
>>53294717
More accurately I got accused by you, another black person of being a racist, when my post was >>53290572 which has nothing at all to do with race and was about how I find people hamfistedly slapping LGBT themes onto everything like it's the flavor of the moth is insulting and offensive, particularly when accompanied by a big lump of text full of patronizing language.

Then you try and speak for all black Americans when you said:
>Black Americans don't have a place in the fantasy/nerd culture that is popular in America so it's offputting to us.
>Imagine a fantasy setting with no white people. Imagine if the most popular fantasy settings had zero white people. Sounds insane right? For us it's reality. And if you had the slightest bit of empathy you know that doesn't feel good.
Which I don't agree with at all. I don't feel that way about the media at all.

And then you accuse me of being from /pol/ again.

So yeah I lost my shit.

>>53296837
Sounds like an Apocalypse World hack.

>>53297119
>when my post was >>53290572 which has nothing at all to do with race and was about how I find people hamfistedly slapping LGBT themes
Race, LGBT themes, and SJW activism are all closely related in the current cultural zeitgeist. So I conflate you dislike of LGBT inclusion as a dislike for inclusion of minorities as well, because I thought you were a /pol/ poster so generalized and assumed you disliked both. Basically, your post was tangentially related to my rant.
>Which I don't agree with at all. I don't feel that way about the media at all.
I was speaking more about nerd culture than the media in general.

>>53297196
Don't mistake me, I don't have any kind of problem with inclusion. What I don't like is when people hang a lantern on it, amp it up to ridiculous levels and then pretend that they're somehow virtuous for doing that (this seems to be really on vogue at the moment).

If you're a writer and you weren't already accounting for the existence of LGBT people in your fiction then you're either a bigot or a hack, including LGBT people is just doing your job properly. You don't get extra points for doing your job properly and you don't get extra points for doubling down on it either.
>I was speaking more about nerd culture than the media in general.
I understand why you said this, but that's not what I was getting at. When I see a piece of fantasy fiction of some kind that doesn't contain a tremendous amount of black people, I generally don't actually perceive an absence of black people, particularly in fantasy settings. The major exception being modern day settings, or sci-fi settings where there's no reason why you wouldn't see black characters (like the almost total lack of non-white characters in any of Games Workshops IPs).

And the reverse is true, when I see black characters in medieval Europe with no apparent explanation given that doesn't make the piece of fiction seem relateable, it just makes it apparent that there was a badly executed attempt to add diversity.

>>53296585
Sounds like you're deeply insecure about your own inability to create something of value, and are thus lashing out at people for not catering to your sensibilities, as you are painfully aware that you aren't willing or able to create something designed for your own sensibilities.

And don't talk to me about that "don't even know where to begin with African folklore" shit. You think Tolkien just popped out of the womb being able to recite the Poetic Edda from memory? No, he researched Western history, folklore, and myth because he was interested in it. And he was interested in it for a long time. And eventually he said "Huh, Britain doesn't really have a great mythic cycle the same way France or Germany does. I should make one."
Make something for yourself. You want to make fantasy for black people? Research African folklore beyond just doing cursory Google searches. Buy books on that shit, read papers online. Or, if you want something that you've been exposed to more through general cultural osmosis? Do research into voodoo and slave narratives. Look at the myths and beliefs of the slaves that came here, throughout history, as it changed a shit ton over the years. You aren't going to make something of depth or value, something that will leave a large footprint on culture, without being willing to put in the legwork to look at things that people are unfamiliar with, and reframe them as something that attracts a broader audience.

>>53297426
> Research African folklore beyond just doing cursory Google searches.
My problem is that I don't identify with African folklore at all.
My problem is that I identify more with European folklore due to growing up in Western nerd culture, but because it's European folklore there are no black people but I'm black so there is still this mental dissonance despite being able to relate to and understand it far easier. This is the main problem I'm getting at when I say 'cultural osmosis'.
>You think Tolkien just popped out of the womb being able to recite the Poetic Edda from memory?
But I DO know some Tolkien stories center around dwarves, elves, and dragons all of which existed prior to Tolkien and are prolific enough that he had a starting point to begin with and even went as far as to reinterpret and reinvent those same things into his stories.
>Or, if you want something that you've been exposed to more through general cultural osmosis? Do research into voodoo and slave narratives
Again, this is the problem. I know nearly nothing (not exaggerating, other than the definitions of words themselves I don't know anything about them). I couldn't tell you any story about voodoo or slave narrative, but I could give at least jam out a decent one about elves and dragons.

The issue is that I'm black but could tell you more about European folklore derived fantasy despite not being European. Hell, I could tell you more about some Japanese creatures than I could about African. I don't NEED to do any research to do this. I just can.
I am not demanding "Someone make me an African setting ;_;"
I am pointing out that this racial/mental issue that white nerds aren't even considering when they complain about minorities in their fantasy settings that the inclusion of minority somewhat alleviates. It comes across as insensitive and makes me question the people who do so ability to empathize.
>deeply insecure
If that's what this phenomenon is called, yes.

Numenera is pretty perfect for one-shots or very short campaigns, but the setting and rules really don't work for long term games.

Also, I heard that the guy who made the game is way into cooking and eating human dicks.

>>53297675
>Also, I heard that the guy who made the game is way into cooking and eating human dicks.
excuse me?

>>53297756

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2149879/Japanese-man-22-cooks-genitals-serves-paying-dinner-party-guests.html

Yeah the sources are shit but it's not like this is going to be on anything reputable.

Now whether Monty actually ate this dude's balls I have no idea.

>>53297756
From what I've read, back when Monte Cook was working for WotC he got in trouble for embezzling money in order to go to a private "art exhibition" in Thailand that was mostly about cannibalizing penises (there was other stuff I think, but it was all about cannibalism and sexuality).

It wasn't the main reason for him leaving, but it probably was a factor

>>53296498
>you're saying I'm just from /pol/ to dismiss my argument
>after I casually dismissed your argument

>>53297638
Ah, I understand what you're getting at.
Yeah, the majority of nerd culture is made for the middle class.
White people are more represented in this than most other races, so it ends up being aimed towards them.
This in turn means that most of the future creators of nerd shit, which grew up on this stuff, are also white and middle class.

I mean the ultimate issue really is that there are two types of people complaining about "muh minorities in fantasy."
One is bigots, the other one is people anal about worldbuilding.
You can safely ignore the first, but be careful to not mistake one for the other.
Often this minority inclusion in nerd shit is less from actual minorities putting their own experiences into stories.
Frequently, it's just the case of more middle class white nerds trying to show off and appear progressive to their other white middle class nerd friends.
As a result, it's tokenist and shallow, as they often just plop down different ethnic groups in their culturally medieval setting without thinking about where these groups came from, or the implications of these different groups' existence within the context of the setting.

I feel for you dude, sucks being surrounded by pop culture that you love but don't see yourself in. If it helps, try stepping outside of your comfort zone of anime and mainstream fantasy a bit. Octavia Butler, Samuel R. Delany, and Charles Saunders are all great fantasy and sci-fi writers.

>>53297961
>biggest wizard lover loves to eat cocks
It's too good to be true.

>>53297638

Out of curiosity, how do/would you feel about something like Kevin Crawford's Spears of the Dawn, which draws on (mostly middle / north) African folklore. I'm about as white as Casper's right nut, but I've been really digging on the worldbuilding there.

If you're unfamiliar, it's in OSR General's trove under the Sine Nomine Publishing folder.

>>53274711
>mfw my gm won't stop running numenera because of how easy it is to gm
>probably one of the most mechanically boring games in existence on the player side

>>53301032
Why do you find its mechanics boring and what should it do in order to stop being boring?

>>53291826
>as a LGBT person.
What does that have to do with anything? Christ you "people" are insecure

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>>53303150
oh, I thought this place was dead, hello friend.

I know I'm late to the party and this is slightly off-topic, but is the vidya any good? I loved Planescape: Torment but Numenera as a ttrpg setting turned out to be a huge letdown.

>>53303493
It is to a vidya what a really nice brochure is to a novel.

>>53303493
Game is very fun but the ending is rushed, seems to be a theme nowadays