Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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>GW stabs the Angels of Death in the heart and all most of /40kg/ can day is how they can't wait to pre-order Sigmarines2 at full RRP

nth for necrons the faction nobody plays anymore

>>53269142
Fucking this, not looking forward to buying 5 of these fuckers at most likely 40~50 USD fuck that.

2d6th for unreliable charge range

>>53269142
If 30k isn't ported to 8th in the near future, I'm just using my existing marines as marines+1 when I test out this new edition.

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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/16/new-warhammer-40000-the-dark-imperium-may16gw-homepage-post-4/

DARK imperium! Death of the Blood Angels?

So what there's nothing today?

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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/16/new-warhammer-40000-the-dark-imperium-may16gw-homepage-post-4/

>>53269210
>>53269205

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>>53269205
Beat me to it.

>>53269217
>>53269205
This literally just sounds like a plot device to kill off the old space marines, "oh their homeworlds are destroyed all they can recruit now are numarines."

>>53269187
$50 for a box of 5
Fell my NZ pain burger

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>Things were already looking pretty grim for the sons of Sanguinius, with a hive fleet closing in on them, and now it looks even bleaker. Cut off from the light of Terra, the Angels and their Successors stand against the might of Hive Fleet Leviathan, hoping they can withstand the storm.

Faction focus when ?

>>53269275

Judging by how dire the Stormcast... chapters? were, I don't imagine any of the new Chapters will be exactly exciting.

I guess this is what happens when you want to sell new plastic sprues and big babies lap them up.

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>>53269275
>>53269313
G-Guys I play Blood Angels. Should I be worried?

>>53269313
Not tomorrow, maybe in 3 days
There are still between 17 and 24 armies that have yet to receive their Army Focus

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>>53269119
pls gamswrkshop don kill of my beloved flesh terers.

>>53269351
No. They're consistently high sellers, so GW will never actually kill them off.

>>53269142
>MARINES LOL

>>53269351
>Baal is about to get spitroasted by Tyranids and Daemons
Anon, I... be strong brother, be strong for Sanguinius.

>>53269351
No.
Like all SM they sell a ton, and squatting them would mean having 8 kits be unusable thus not selling, 19 if we included characters too

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>>53269351
I'm sorry for your homeworld

but not that much really since you're going to get a not!primarch most probably

>>53269351
The Necrons are gonna save the day again.

>>53269291
$50-80 for us leafs just the fucking golden bastards.
shit stinks

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>mfw when GW can't squat my chapter because they're homebrew special snowflakes

Nice try, fuckos.

>>53269413
>and Daemons
where did it mention daemons?

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>>53269508
Please this, i want a szarekh model for my army

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What would it take to make orks good in the new edition?

I'm hoping for:
>boyz at 4 ppm
>flash gitz being able to target characters
>mob rule being Ld equal to number of models
>tankbusta bombs being good and available like melta bombs to marines
>big choppa being S+1 AP-2 like a power axe
>looted wagon rules
>being able to charge from deep strike / outflanking
>units with the fly rule being able to charge flyers
>grots being fun, with scout, infiltrate, stealth or something similar
>cybork body being good
>cybork body being stackable with whatever painboyz do
>reasonably priced shokk attack gun
>all vehicles being able to fight in close combat, with things like deffrollas, grabbing klawz, wreckin balls and so on acting as melee weapons
>something to avoid or offset to-hit penalties, possibly gitfindas, which should be widely available, at least on units like tankbustas, lootas and flash gitz

Fuck it I'm just going to use this as an opertunity to go thousands sons, just gonna run the Magnus flying circus or shit ton of rubric marines.

>>53269397
Anon, they were a dying chapter BEFORE all of this happened.

>>53269119
Are those pics up to scale?

>>53269574
>melee tanks

Yes I need this.

>>53269205
>warpstorm cutting the galaxy in half
>half the Imperium is cut off from the Astronomican
>this half is rapidly falling to Chaos and is called the Dark Imperium
>the intact loyalist Imperium is lead by a living Primarch
>Daemon Primarchs are in the materium and more active
>everything is a little less grimdark despite the escalating threat, as the presence of this Primarch acts as a force of rationality
>eldar of all stripes are uniting under a common banner that is bringing back pre-Fall aesthetics and beliefs

Okay, which one of you faggots from the old Imperium Asunder threads was actually a GW writer scraping 4chan for ideas? I know most of you are probably in this thread.

>>53269560
I'm stressing out waiting for their faction focus. the "anything can hurt anything" approach to 8th has me wondering what they have planned for gauss.

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>>53269624
bruh you an me both, i want to see if we get anything after 2 fucking years

>>53269624
It'll probably just do double damage versus vehicles on a 6 to wound, this is common in AoS

Tesla will presumably be the same, extra hit on 6's to hit. like in 'Sigmar

>>53269598
Yes, bases are the same size.

>>53269655
Vehicles only, or MCs as well? Seems weird that it'd work on a Dread but not a Riptide.

>>53269655
I think they are trying not to have vehicles be treated any differently to other models now, so probably not tied to a keyword. More likely they just do higher damage in general.

Brothers of the blood we must stand strong in these trying times and push back the evil xeno menac

>>53269714
You sell models, you'll be fine.

Shit man you'll probably get Sanguinius back or some shit.

>>53269714
see
>>53269508

>>53269624
"Always wound on least 5+" sounds decent effect for gauss. Better against tough things than normal guns but just barely. Like its old effect.

You'd still need 162 shots of BS4 gauss to kill a leman russ.

Xeno alliances or 8th ed is a bust!

It's been a long time since latin class, but doesn't indomitus mean 'barbarian' or something?

>>53269728
This seems likely to me as well. Set up some sort of Dark vs Old Imperium stuff with both having Primarchs who come into conflict. Nobledark vs Grimdark, or something.

So while I really would like to take a squad or two of the Primaris Marines, how would I justify that as fluffily as possible when I play Astral Claws?

>>53269751
keep in mind this isn't real latin, it's 40k fake latin

>>53269728
Or Sanguinator is reveiled as a shard of Sanguinius's soul and XXX happens and that unit is buffed to Primarch levels, or near them.

>>53269751
it means unrestrained in basic latin or words to that effect

>>53269776
also so close to trips

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>>53269598

I think the SM is a tiny fraction undersized, they look more similar in other pictures.

>>53269624

I would guess that it strips away armour saves?

>>53269690
>>53269693
Well i don't know what keywords will separate what was once a vehicle or if there will be any. Behemoth / Monster are the best guesses

Fuck it: 6's to wound transfer into Mortal wounds. would be very powerful, but Warriors might cost a lot more points now.

It will one of these generic basic 'roll a 6 for good things' that most Sigmar weapons have. if you're expecting anything complex you'll be disappointed

>>53269737
"Always wound on at least a 5+" seems like a strange way to handle it. Tau small arms guns can wound up to T9 on a 5+, which happens to do 5+ on Russ's. The only times that one would prefer "always wound on at least a 5+" to simply having S5 is if you were shooting at T10 or higher, which seems like it will be fairly rare.

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>>53269714
>menac
brother you okay? BROTHER?!

>>53269772
I mean the Sanguinior did say that there was still hope when Dante asked if he had done enough and if baal can still be saved. Also wasnt it proven that the Sanguinior is just like an ancient sanguinary guard who used to be Sanguinius's Speaker during imperium 2: Electric Boogalo?

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>Go into shop
>see this
what do?

>>53269812
I see the fires of Terra brother and i can hear the screams.

>>53269751
It could have been used to refer to the barbarians as they are savage, not limited by proper laws of civilization

but indomitus literally means not dominated

>>53269797
I did an overlay in gimp and the bases are exactly the same size. They look to be from the same angle too. I think the height differences are just a little less obvious when viewed from above.

I am pumped about greenwing being alright

>>53269797
squats confirmed

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>Big guy marines
>blood angels possibly going to get squated

My blood angels army consists of nothing but 2nd edition models. I can't wait to play 8th against autists getting mad at my army

>>53269827

Eldars are made for human cock

>>53269827
Buy two Extra Dakka's to get your Extra-Extra Dakka.

>>53269574

I'm hoping for:
>boyz Worth 6 ppm
>flash gitz being Elites characters
>mob rule testing Battleshock against number of models
>burnas able to trade attacks for single heavy cutting ones
>powa choppa being S+1 AP-2 like a power axe
>looted wagon rules
>being able to charge from deep strike / outflanking
>units with the fly rule being able to charge flyers
>grots being fun, with scout, infiltrate, stealth or something similar
>cybork body being good
>cybork body being stackable with whatever painboyz do
>reasonably priced shokk attack gun
>all vehicles being able to fight in close combat, with things like deffrollas, grabbing klawz, wreckin balls and so on acting as melee weapons

>>53269797

What is the consensus on these guys looks wise?

I don't like them ,they look to clean and too "futuristic" for 40k.

The old marines looks like they fit into the gothic aesthetic of the universe.
They have this combination of grungy clunky tech combined with an ornamental look.

>>53269574
If all this happened Orks would be actually pretty viable.

>>53269843
Blood Angels sell well, they aren't getting squatted. More likely they're being used as a center of the story on the other side of the rift. Possibly next chapter to get their Primarch.

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>>53269871
BRING
BACK
DADDY

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Hruds confirmed for 8th

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>>53269119
I think my marines gonna look just fine when field with the NuMarines.

>>53269889
I swear shark-people were a thing

>>53269871
True, they do have a start collecting box.

>>53269827
I wish I was pretty

>>53269623
Hey, I voted for 3 empires, the stagnant god-empire, the "progressive" breakaway atheist marine empire and the chaos conquered areas.

>>53269858
>To clean
Make them rougher with paintings
I think they look great, maybe too great, because 40k doesnt' always have truescale and now these guys look like from a different company

>>53269765
Not possible, could just say there true scale or not give a damn.

>>53269887
>Tiny manlet neck/head going crazy

He looks like an IT guy who stepped on a Lego

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>>53269830
>but indomitus literally means not dominated
I think it's more 'can't be controlled / ruled / governed' which in roman terms would be absolutely terrible. It's not a term of respect. Seems very weird that a crusade called by a guy who is pretty keen on good governance, in a control-freak empire with the primary objective of restoring order would be called 'indomitus'. Unless it's meant to be a crusade against the indomitus or something.

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>>53269889

We're kind of due for a Kroot stand alone codex.

>>53269918
you seem like a retarded faggot and have bad taste

>>53269857
>>all vehicles being able to fight in close combat, with things like deffrollas, grabbing klawz, wreckin balls and so on acting as melee weapons

Isn't this confirmed? Tank commanders can attack with their swords from the hatch and such

It would make sense for Ork vehicles to get the best melee attacks and especially making use of the wrecking ball, etc.

AoS has a couple "vehicles" but all of them have a melee attack function

>>53269142
The kinda people who play marines are the kinda people who HAVE to own the cool thing

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>>53269397
At least we're getting some cool art on our possible deathbed. I know we won't, but maybe we'll even get and upgrade kit or a transfer sheet too!

>>53269889
That's 9th, after they've buffed the Imperium enough to push back chaos and close the rift at great expense, a mysterious xenos species will begin psychically preying on tensions between the legions and turn a large portion rogue. It will be revealed to be the same xenos that corrupted the legion that the space Wolves had to put down.

That, and the current xenos factions will get all uppity and use the opportunity to expand aggressively.

>>53269941
Well tanks can now box people with their treads.
Everyone has mob rule

This is basically the Ork edition

>>53269187
So... dont?

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>>53269858
backpacks and pauldrons are too small because GW wanted to keep the possibility of kitbashing with old marines

that's my only gripe and it's a very minor one

they follow a design policy that is almost flawless otherwise
>something old
>something new
>something borrowed
>something blue

So whos the idiot that decided to call Dark Elder Drukhari? I get Aeldari, its dumb but it can pass but frekaing Drukari? Sounds like something I would make up for a alien species when I was 10. Just call them Dark Aeldari for christ sake if you want the TM.

>>53269949
We need more art like this. This is a thousand times better than 90% of the shit printed in GW books these days.

>>53269936
seeing as FW stopped the great knarloc or krootox riders it would seem that they need it

>>53269871
Would be hillarious if Sanguinius cure the Black Rage and GW squats the whole Death Company.

>>53269966
Doesn't look too small, it actually looks correctly proportioned now

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>>53269966
So far better than fan made truescale.

>>53269910
You are anon

>>53269965
Relative to inflation space marine tactical have been the same price for almost 15 years... in the US at least. Doubling the price now would be a stupid thing to do, albeit a very Kirby era GW thing to do too

How would a Skaven equivelent race fit into 40k? Would they be xenos, mutants, daemons?

Seriously guys, does anyone have the links to 40k books?
I can't find books 9 to 11 for The Beast Arises.

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>>53269858
I like them more than the basic current marines, but they still look too sci-fi and not gothic enough. Would have been a good opportunity to bring the marine line closer to the overall imperium aesthetic. Still, I can see why they want to keep them very conservative in their design; they are basically replacing the best-selling line and they need to be sure that the new stuff will appeal to the same market.

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>>53269971
please tell thats not pronounced loke drew carey

anyway
>not expecting unnecessary retarded bullshit from nuGW

How long til my boy Sanguinus is back

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>>53269971
New Drukari character leaked!

>>53270012
Hrud.

>>53269992
>GW squats the whole Death Company.
Anon please, you nearly have me a heart attack.
I have more Death Company than I do Tactical Marines.

>>53269929
>I think it's more 'can't be controlled / ruled / governed'
it's not the crusade or the people composing it that are supposed to be uncontrollable

It's supposed to sound like "crusade of the unbowed (to the chaos menace)"

>>53269936
They've already confirmed that Shapers aren't HQs. You can't even run them as an independent Patrol without throwing a Tau HQ in there.

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>>53270027
Top kek

>>53269971
Because its better than using fantasy word druchii.

>>53269949
wait, I remember a sister of battle groping her own buttcheek in this art

>>53270058
Druchii actually sounds a lot better and fits the faux-latin of 40k, like Skitarii

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>>53269988
>>53269989

If Genestealer cults got a codex then it'd make sense for the Kroot to get something similar, they're pretty much just as fleshed out.
And lame as Tau players don't even field them so it wouldn't be a loss.

>>53270037
Hey man I have a bunch of Death Company too k ?
As much as I want Sanguinius to return, he will most likely cures the Black Rage.

>>53270058
its literally not. i cant even think of that shitty name in my head without smiling at how awful it is because ITS FUCKING DREW CAREY

>>53270075
Personally I hope to fuck Kroot Mercs get a standalone Codex as good as GSC

>>53270000
perhaps, but I always liked when pauldrons reached the nose or slightly above when in resting position

>>53270066
>self gropping is the only attention Sisters of Battle will ever have.


Please GW just kill my army. I want the suffering to end

>>53269765
Faction that split from the main Chapter

One of the "New Chapters" that Guilliman is reported to have made that happens have heraldry eerily similar to Astral Claws

Alternate timeline Astral Claws that got shot through a warp storm / Cicatrix Maledictum into the timeline we follow?

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So which side of the rift is my boy Kharn on?

>>53270022
I thought it would be pronounced like Druk-Ar-I

>>53269966

LUL the eyes gleam.

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>>53270084
IIts same as calling Craftworlders Asur, its wrong.

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>>53270108
>astral claws
>Mfw a certain faction ripped their shit up

>>53269205
At least it makes sense of the Dark Imperium as a term I kinda like it as long as it's not just a device to squat half the galaxy.
>>53269929
It's like the GW writers aren't Latin speakers!

>>53270124
i hope you posted pic related as another example of a mistake

>>53269765
Guilliman learns about Badab war and makes special chapter to retake black stone fortress from Red Corsairs.

>>53269142
What is that apparatus he is holding, and how does it correlate to the punks posture?

>>53270110
He's everywhere he needs to be, the warp does not stop chaos from moving.

>>53269938
Not that guy, but the noblebright mehreens turned out to be one if the best things in that AU.

>Superman esque Primarch from some democratic ocean world
>just wants everyone to be free and equal, gets his chance to run his own little Imperium when Big E dies
>creates a realm of tolerance and freedom
>flash forward to the 41st millennium and the western reaches of his republic are being destroyed from without by Tyranids and from within by cultists
>a shadow war between inquisitor esque gunslingers is being fought against increasingly prevalent Tzeentch cults
>he's constantly fighting with his Space Bryzantine brother
>his republic has become arrogant and cavalier toward everyone else, constantly deciding that its neighbours need fresh shipments of thermonuclear DEMOCRACY
>fuck this gay galaxy

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>>53270066
>I remember a sister of battle groping her own buttcheek in this art
There were no Imperial Agents present during this battle. None at all. The half-eaten human-sized corpses scattered around the battlefield are merely the remains of heretics who deserved their fate.
Do not believe Inquisitorial lies about the glorious and noble Blood Angel Chapter and their equally glorious and noble successors.

>>53270083
>As much as I want Sanguinius to return
Why would you want that? Resurrecting him would make his original sacrifice all but meaningless.
Horus and Sanguinius should be the two Primarchs who should stay dead, no matter what other BS GW pulls.

>Inb4 Cegorachi

What's going to happen with space marine scouts now? Do primarines not go through the scout process? Will the chapters even bother to recruit kids to be implanted with the old gene-seed now that they have a superior alternative?

>>53270089
Same. Variety is the spice of life.

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>>53270027

>>53270167
In regards to scouts, maybe other Chapters will follow the Space Wolves' example and scouts will be experienced, patient hunters who chose to follow that path rather than just raw recruits they can't really trust expensive toys to yet?

>>53270165
I like that pic. What is the model on the right? I love it.

>>53270165
With all the shit the Flesh Tearers get away with, you have to wonder what the Knights of Blood did to get branded Renegades.

>>53270206
http://www.hfminis.co.uk/shop?product=justice-sedante~hfsf127&category=sci%252dfi-%26%0D%0Aweird-war~sci%252dfi-humans

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>>53269545
The timeline in the 5th Edition Blood Angels codex has this entry.

Ka'Bandha and the daemons aren't mentioned in the 7th Ed codex entry. It looks like the idea was abandoned for more Leviathan tentacle action.

>>53269959
Or...
While the Imperium is on the brink of collapse and the galaxy is at its most grimdark in millenias, a gathering happens at the edge of the galaxy. Something huge that almost goes unnoticed in the chaos of the Indomitus crusade. The Imperium has already seen massive Hrud migrations cause incredible damages, but this is bigger than anything known to the universe. All the Hruds, everywhere, are marching to the same place, and no one knows why. But the news begin to spread. This is the Raheed-skeh, and Qah is back.
But this won't happen. Instead, we're gonna squat Kroots.

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>>53270206
It's from Hasslefree Miniatures. Comes in both sci-fi and fantasy flavors and both work pretty well for 40k.

>>53270138

>exec meeting
>so it seems our range of collectible dolls has become too... diversified
>we're gonna have to scale back the range to something more in-line with what the consu-I mean customers would throw their NEE- hard earned wagebucks on
>but sir, how do we justify putting half of our product range in the dumpster all at once?
>none of my concern! just get our crack team of Mat Ward clones working on it around the clock!

>>53270241
Thank you, I couldn't find it on google. Looks great.

>>53270204
I hope not, the different Space Marines Chapters need more unique things like that setting them apart, not less.

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>>53270162
there is no such thing as a free and equal society that isnt a shithole, thats why its a stupid idea. its seems more like fan fiction than a serious and authentic setting. blueberries have the same problem with their communist society since GW keeps pulling back all the creepy and shady shit from their lore

>>53270249
>chaos cucked by xenos
The fuck? Is it opposite day or something?

>>53269408
Never noticed that
>NuMarines kek

>>53270252
Thanks as well. I like a lot of the 3rd party female models. I have a few I want to use, but I'm a little worried the GW managers will say I can't use them since they really enforce that they have to be mostly GW models policy. I figure if I only use 1-2 at a time they shouldn't be too upset.

>>53270249
>Ka'Bandha and the daemons aren't mentioned in the 7th Ed codex entry. It looks like the idea was abandoned for more Leviathan tentacle action.
HAHAHAHA CHAOS BTFO

What's a quick way to strip metal models?

Alcohol?

>>53270165
After the NuMarines, I don't care anymore as long as his mini looks good.

>>53270261
Well to be fair while in the fluff the Wolf Scouts were veterans, on the table after the Codex Marine Scouts got BS4 and the Wolves lost their ability to come on the board from behind there was very little difference between the two as far as I can tell.

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>>53270166


pronounced like Mariachi?

>>53269858
I don't hate the design.

The armor is very similar to mk8 with a shortened mk4 helmet.

I think I'll trim the top of the knee pads though and keep them round.

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>>53269971

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>>53270266
Tau aren't communist, they're a combination of Confucius, the caste system and technocracy. Stop this meme.

>>53269275
BA will complain about Guillemarines.
They'll win but cry about the cost.
They'll agree to take Guillemarines to replenish losses.

That way GW can show not everyone is happy about them, but still have an excuse to tske them.

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>>53270304
top fucking kek anon, you did well

>>53269858
I think they're the best possible models they could have made for a generic marine. I'm honestly surprised at how much I like them, for the first time ever I'm actually considering doing a Space Marine army.

I think the truescale is a big part of it.

>>53270249

they probably got run-over by all the blud angles coming back from whatever they were doing.

Bandha chose the worse moment possible to materialise into realspace.

>>53270288
Also, what's the best way to get basing material off?

>>53269313

> tfw Lamenters lamentingly lament themselves into the final battle and finally die while securing safety for their founding chapter.

>>53270288

meth

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>>53269765

I'm in a similar boat, I have a load of tatty old 3rd ed Marines on 25mm bases that I was going to strip and paint as simple Marines Exemplar, but then I thought that Astral Claws would be just as simple but probably better looking for it (silver is easier and quicker to wash than black is to edge highlight).

I guess you could either say they're "Huron's Claw Guard" or something, or just plain ignore it.

Oh god, will there be Primaris Centurions?

>>53270363
>get reborn as numarines alongside other yellow chapters

>>53270304
>I too chuckled sensibly

But it's probably a hard C 'cos games workshop.

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>>53270249
This is the current entry from Codex: BA "Red Thirst Edition".

>>53270363
Tyranids already btfo the Lamenters, there are hardly any left after Kraken.

>>53270278
>I figure if I only use 1-2 at a time they shouldn't be too upset.
I find it hard to believe a GW store will dick you over by not letting you run 3rd party models for Inquisition. The entire army is basically made from conversion and kitbashing since it hasn't got any real love since the 90's. Hell, a lot of models you can't even get anymore outside of ebay or trading sites.

>>53270296
>I don't care anymore as long as his mini looks good.
Anon... need I really post Girlyman's new model?
At least with hawkboy we won't have a 30k model to say is better I guess.>>53270278

>>53270288
Nail polish remover. That shit will melt plastic but metal models won't give a fuck. Paint will slough off.

>>53270349
What was the basing material glued on with, PVA or superglue? I find Simple Green is good for both stripping paint off plastic minis and forcing PVA to melt.
For metal minis feel free to use something a little stronger, like nail varnish remover or the like (maybe turpentine or undiluted paint thinner) as their details won't melt like plastic or resin.

Battle cannon rules looks like shit.

>>53270110
He's bored out of his mind right now. The space marines are all blobbing up into one big fleet so all the planets he's raiding are filled with lame easy mode guardsmen.

You know what's the single best thing that will come with primarines?

the "true"scale movement in the artworks will finally have an end

>>53270288
Yeah 99% IPA and a good hard scrub with a toothbrush or something will do the trick. With metal models, you can also get away with softening the paint with boiling water and basically throwing anything you like at them.

>>53270417
>Implying true scale autists won't simply make bigger primarines to be bigger than their bigger space marines

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>>53270384

Hard C like CegorKey?

>>53270417
>the "true"scale movement in the artworks will finally have an end
>people believe this
Truescale primaris marines when?

>>53270417
>implying oldmarines will even show up in the art anymore
Oh, anon....

>>53270382

> Implying i give enough of a shit about anything 40k related past 2004 to do anything other than shitpost the updates on /tg/ while working.

>>53270390

They'd already been teetering on like 200-400 marines before that and if they were going to wipe them out they probably would have

>>53270405
>90pt russes inc.

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>>53270384

or Kegorachi?

>>53270438
>Kekoraki.

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>>53270398
To be honest I kind a like Gorrilaman's 40k model, with helmet option of course.
> inb4 shit taste
Yeah sure

>>53270441
they already did

>>53270398
Well, I have a few models that are basically untouched by conversion, I just like the model. I use a 3rd party female Commissar model, the one with 2 powerfists. The one manager didn't stop me from using her, but I'm sure if I had more than just her I wonder if it would be an issue. I only plan to run a few at a time, like an Inquisitor or Commissar or one I have that I want to run as a Straken count as. I don't want to really add anything to them to change them, I like how they are, and they are metal, so I might ruin it trying to change it.

>>53270445
In the older Codexes Tyranids literally did wipe the Lamenters out to the last man, they retconned it later so now there are barely any left but still some.

>>53270463
>Marines Exemplar
Agreed. Helmet makes the model much better.

>>53270462

Soooooo.... do you want Pepe or Goku's face on him?

>>53270349
Do you care about the base surviving?

Boiling water will soften PVA, freezing cold makes superglue brittle, pretty much nothing shifts epoxy putty.

But the main thing which will do the job is just physical force. Scrub, scrape and chip away.

>>53270403
It may just be the painted on stuff. It has kind of a sandy texture.

>>53270398
>Nail polish remover.
Acetone free?

>>53270464
We haven't even seen any 8th edition art yet, lad, outside of Primarine shit.

>>53270487
both is good

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>>53270438

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>>53270417

GW art has been poo for about five years at least so it's no big deal. Especially when most of the pieces now depict miniatures almost perfectly in case somebody like Chapterhouse dares to make resin conversion kits.

I don't think in twenty years time people will be paying for original pieces from today, like they spend hundreds on "Oldhammer" art.

>>53269499
Dont Worry Foul Heretic in Sanguinius's Name we shall strike you down and then i shall kill Horus with my bare hands.

>>53270494
there're marinelet behind one pic of the primarines>>53269235

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>>53270369
>Oh god, will there be Primaris Centurions?
This would be a perfect time to redesign them into something that actually looks good.

In fact, they should redesign all the shitty SM vehicles and suits that they came up with.

>>53269351
Well since they are aren't Ultramarines, i think yes, enjoy being sidekick faction

>>53270493
All this talk has just reminded me I put metal Wraithguard in a coffee jar full of window cleaner and put them in the cupboard under the sink a few years ago.

I should probably check how they're doing.

>>53270493
>Acetone free?
If the model is metal, go with acetone. It won't hurt he model at all and it will tear through the paint even better.
It will melt the base if it's plastic though, as it will any green stuff and glue. Just be aware of that.

I like how it's only
>the Angels and their Successors
who are fighting Hive Fleet Leviathan on Baal.

>Fellow astartes, we require aid!
>Fuck off m8 it's not our planet

With teleport/deep strike rules tomorrow, bets on what we'll get? My money's on charging out of DS.

>>53269508
Somehow I feel I'd be assblasted if this is true.

>mfw Lion El Johnson was the first to fall to chaos and not Kor Phaeron/Erebus

>>53270561
It's almost like shit is going down everywhere

>>53270561
the rest were occupied with either the gulf or the gathering storm

>>53270562
One can hope.

>>53270561
Its almost like getting to the other side of the huge warp rift is impossible

>>53270521

There's probably a lot of idiots out there that think that piece is the best thing GW art department has ever produced

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>>53270439
>people start converting Primaris models into regular space marines
>use terminator-truescale to represent Primarus (no need for truescale terminators because they're still shit)

Oh yes, brother. It is a good pain.

>>53270618
I don't think he was talking about the warp rift, there's a whole half of the Imperium on the other side of the rift which has more Marines than just BAs.

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>>53270618
Baal was already under imminent attack before the giant rift happened.

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>>53270571
>baiting the triggered DAngels denialfag to shit up the thread again

>>53270571
>El'Jhonson face when he learns that Roboute consorts with Eldar and replaces marines.

>>53269929
Maybe the Indomitus Crusade is Girlyman's middle finger towards the High Lords of Terra, with the name refering to the fact that the high lords hold no power over a primarch.

>>53270654
the perfect reaction image

>>53269765
>Astral Claws
you guys are pirates, you stole a batch of marines before they were indoctrinated

>>53270562
>With teleport/deep strike rules tomorrow, bets on what we'll get? My money's on charging out of DS.

I'm guessing there's no more scattering with deep strike, since they seem to be giving up on scatter dice.

With overwatch and retreating from combat, there's no real reason not to allow assault from reserves any more.

I suspect the new rule will be that you have to set up a certain distance from any enemy models, probably far enough that getting a charge into them is rather problematic... maybe 10"? Or it could depend on the unit's rules, or be a random value.

They might have the numbers deficiency, but for the life of me i can't figure out how to work numarines into Mantis Warriors since they're apparently so untrusted they aren't even allowed in Deathwatch.
Any ideas?

where is the fluff about roboute guilliman coming back, the gathering storm books? did he ever go to terra and see the emperors corpse on the golden throne? seems like it would upset him that the imperium worships his dad as a god since he was against that stuff during the crusade

Who are the jews in 40k?

>>53269858
They come from a time the empire was not that obscurantists, before the worship of the emperor as a god, so the lack of skull and stuff iconography is not that problematic in my opinion. We may have the opportunity to see some more religious zelot looks once the madness of the 41 milleniums rubs in.

>>53269797
Do you guys think they will eventually redo the vehicles to "Primaris scale"?

>>53270716
The numarines are an attempt to purify the chapter of past transgressions?

>>53270716

GW doesn't worry about upsetting the fluff, why are you?

You could say the Imperium is so desperate they are sending stuff to people they normally wouldn't

>>53270266
>there is no such thing as a free and equal society that isnt a shithole

And yet, all the free and equal (comparatively) societies on Earth are 100% better than the ones with totalitarian regimes. This rule stands across history - there is no better society to live in than modern western society.

Also, did you not notice that that noblebright republic or whatever ended up becoming grimdark?

>>53270716
They get the Numarines, but the Mantis warriors figure they're just spies, and so constantly send them off on dangerous suicide missions? Perhaps there's a hint of truth to that as well, and someone did tell them to keep a close eye on them.

Just decided to get back into 40k after years, and I'm dying waiting for the new edition. Need to know if my space skeletons are going to be trash or not.

Honestly I don't feel confident about it.

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>>53270566
B-but it's not like we like you or anything, baka marine-kun!

>>53269827
Pretend I'm going to pay for the Hot Elf Sex, then once she got all her squishy bits out I'll krump her and take all her Dakka for free!

Brutally kunnin that is.

>>53270716
where do you get that from? i just read "since the badab war only a handful of mantis warriors have been accepted into the deathwatch"

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>>53270741

>>53270039
This

>>53270748
I cant wait till the Blood angels geneseed freaks out with primaris marines and makes super death company.

>>53270741
The Inquisition obviously.

>>53270741
Some say the Emprah was actually Jesus, so he may be a jew controlling all the galaxy

>>53270747
>Do you guys think they will eventually redo the vehicles to "Primaris scale"?

GW already said there are primaris vehicles on the way in the FAQ. That's how we know regular marines will soon be phased out.

>>53270772
Why does fanart like this exist?

>>53270774
That might have been it and I'm recalling wrong. Regardless, they've at the least been less than welcome.
Or it could be a reference to their low numbers and I'm a retard.

>>53270716
Roboute may not be aware why or even that they are not trusted and sent them primaris marines. He probably looked at the recent chapter strengths that they had on Terra and just sent primaris marines at anyone who was under strength.

>>53270727
yes, yes and yes.

>>53270800
>primaris leviathan dreadnoughts
come on FW, give them to me big daddy

I'm going to pretend things past 3rd edition didn't happen lore wise.

>>53270800
Ah. I missed that. Thanks for the answer.

>>53270807
well, they did help the deathwatch stop a tyranid invasion, and the inquisition called off their 100 year penance, and said they had paid their dues, so maybe now they are somewhat accepted? i dunno man, if oyu play mantis warriors, and care about fluff, just get a squad to start with, and be like, we are on parole, so we only get 5 super duders for now, and we go from there

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Is the possibility of a random space marine chapter to actually be the Alpha Legion operating from inside the imperium possible?

Because I like it as a headcanon

>>53270805
The bad kind of autism.

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>>53269119
i feel like that the nu-marines having some fatal flaw is unavoidable...but who knows with gw since it would take artistic integrity to develop it

it would basically solve all the problems that the dlc marines bring to the table though

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>>53270800

I wonder if CSM are getting upscaled vehicles. Not buying another one until I'm sure.

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>>53270800
>GW already said there are primaris vehicles on the way in the FAQ
Did they? Dreadnoughts don't really count.

>>53270845
I really, really wish GW had the balls to make the plot-twist that Primaris Marines are actually Alpha Legion into a thing.

>>53270793
But it's known that the Emperor is a fucking roach. He was born in Turkey.

>>53270845
isnt that what alpha legion actually does? brainwash neophytes in a chapter, until eventually everyone marine or close to is under their control, and when the time is right, press a button and bam, they are alpha legion now

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>>53270845

Better question, how are Alpha Legion suppose to infilitrate the Primaris Marines when they're all Marinelets

Between the astral claws and mantis warriors anons I'm actually curious about gillyman's take on the badab war. Also if fw will actually bother updating their rules

>>53270800
Primaris will probably have Bulky or an equivalent rule. Vehicles that are designed to carry them will probably just have a larger carrying capacity.

>>53270849
They have literally no battlefield experience compared to the 70+ of a basic Marine.

>>53270849
They won't, GW no longer has competent writers capable of making interesting lore.

>>53270849
They hinted that the primarines might react weirdly to preexisting geneseed flaws.

>>53270887
platform shoes

Okay! So I have enough 91% isopropyl alcohol or Acetone nail polish remove to strip my metal models. Which do you think would be better for it?

Should I rip the bases off beforehand?

>>53270716
they're sent in as control
basically they're super loyal dudes who the imperium trusts and they are sent in to see if the chapter is still salvageable or not and report back.
>>53270727
>the gathering storm books
yes book 3
>did he ever go to terra and see the emperors corpse on the golden throne
yes
>seems like it would upset him that the imperium worships his dad as a god since he was against that stuff during the crusade
it did, he just realized an extra civil war wasn't what the imperium needed at the time and in true pragmatic fashion had himself recognized by the echlesiarchy

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>>53270880
I'd love that to be actually a thing, but I haven't heard of it. Anyways, another cool headcanon lol

>>53270872
Shit, that might be taking it a bit too far.

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>>53270849
>wielding Ea
I like it

>>53270808
>literally superhuman intellect
>focused on administration and leadership
>can't be bothered to look into all 1,000 chapters

>>53270845
It's unlikely that a full chapter of 1,000 marines would all secretly be Alpha Legion.

It's totally possible that the command and maybe first company were AL though. Then they could still send the chapter's geneseed tithe to Mars without raising any alarms.

>>53270887
>when they're all Marinelets
Alpha Legionnaires are canonically the tallest marines. They're the kings of the marinelets.

>>53270907

I doubt that will lead to anything beyond Primaris space wolves having sharp teeth and turn into wolves occasional

or Primaris salamanders to have black skin and red eyes etc etc etc

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>>53270887
Due to the Infiltration gene that all Alpha Legion Marines have they'll be able to grow or shrink to appropriate size.

They'll need to spend a period of time consuming vast amount of organic material to grow to Primaris Marine size or a period of time regurgitating organic material to shrink back down to "old" marine height.

>>53270874
>memes
Turkic people only arrived in anatolia around the 10th century

>>53270925
i swear ive read it in older chaos codex's or maybe even rulebook fluff, that the alpha legion does stuff like that, in a few ill paw through some books and see if i can find page numbers

>>53270887
>>53270916
alpha marines are actually taller than normal marines by default to the point where they can all masquerade as their primarch

>>53270934
>>53270966
>tallest marines
>shortest primarch
interesting

>>53270966
Alpharius is the size of marine, not the other way around, idiot

>>53270852
>Tfw FW will never make non Horus Heresy models ever again

>>53270920
Do a test, couple of models in one, couple in the other.

Might as well rip the bases off to start, assuming you can easily replace them.

>>53270944

kek the state of 40k

>>53270932
>It's unlikely that a full chapter of 1,000 marines would all secretly be Alpha Legion
Why? They were the most numerous legion left at the end of the Heresy and Chapters have murky foundings all the time. Some Chapters even refuse to hand over their geneseed like the Red Scorpions.

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>>53270961
Oh yes please, if that's actually canon I'd be really happy yo read it

>>53270966

but the alpha legion primarch was a primarchlet

>>53270975
The tallest marines have the shortest primarch so all of them are of similar height, and can masquerade him as the other anon already said.

Makes sense.

>>53270979
It's both you cocksucker. Alpharius was only a bit taller than his men (who are also huge).

>>53270988
>like the Red Scorpions.

Like FW would let their pet chapter be Alpha Legion

>Tho I thought I read speculation that RS were Emperor's Children descent

>more Ultramarines wank
>more Space Marines wank
>non-Space Marines/Chaos relegated to NPC status
>memes about Girlyman becoming Emperor almost coming true

>B-B-B-BUT NU GW IS THE GREATEST THING EVER W-WHY DO YOU NECKBEARDS HATE IT?

What the fuck is with all these GW shills all of a sudden? If GW pushed this shit out a year ago and people supported it they'd be fucking lynched. Are SM fanboys just so fucking desperate for something new to add to their OCdonutsteal chapter they'll defend it is HURR SPACE MARINES?

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>>53270887
only their primarch is a manlet. the actual marines are extra tall chads

in this way yhe primarch and marines were almost the same height

>>53270983
If needed I can stop by GW and buy a few bases. They aren't a big deal.

>>53271012

>the most serious no fun allowed chapter descended from the emp's children

something doesn't check out here

>>53270989
>Hypno-indoctrinating natives of space marine recruiting world with a trigger switch, and then turning the unwittingly brainwashed marines on their brothers when the Alpha Legion attacked their fortress-monastery
this is fluff, but you could easily alter it to where they wait until there are over 50% brainwashed, then have a hostile takeover or something

>>53271012
>>53271028
Obsessed with perfection tho

>>53270979
>>53271001
yeah but he's still taller than normal marines since he's a fucking primarch
and alpha legion are like 2 feet taller than regular marines

>>53271017
(you)

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>>53271052
Really cool, the concept of sleeping agents taken to 40k in an awesome way

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>>53271017
i'm just happy we seem to be heading for nobledark
validates all my support for the imperium trough the years and all those conscripts is sent to soak fire on the tabletop

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Blood Angels are getting squatted
LMAOING at you red fags

>>53271156
>This isn’t the first time they have triumphed against impossible odds though
they're already confirmed to win in the article anon

All the new fluff since Wrath of Magnus has been so shit I can't even tell what is real anymore. They couldn't hire worse people to write this shit.

>>53271176
none of its real anon, its a fictional universe, make the fluff whatever you want it to be to enjoy the game

>>53271176
i really hate how they made magnus into a pure arrogant evil guy.
before his recent fluff he was one of the most (see only) likeable traitor primarchs

>>53271176
They seem to hire the people that know the least about the lore

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>>53271176
>Before nuGW
>LMAO DUDE ITS NOT MEANT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY!!
>ITS GRIM DARK BECAUSE ITS IRONIC!! XD
>Story finally advances because it is boring as shit
>WTF DUDE WHY ISNT IT RESETING BACK TO NORMAL EVERY NOVEL LIKE AN EPISODE OF THE SIMPSONS
>WTF THINGS HAVE CONSEQUENCES NOW?!
>THIS IS STUPID I CANT TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY

>marines
>losing in a GW campaign
This will be WoM all over again, with a complete and overwhelming victory and GW usual 'muh loses' and 'muh secret objective', neither which ever have any impact further on the story.

Only this time it will be used to justify the numarines replenishing their ranks and thus displacing most of their current line.

>>53271198
Magnus has always been arrogant though, or at least a little too full of himself.

The only touch I liked in the new fluff though is a discussion between Rawbooty and Magnus while they fight, where it becomes clear Magnus is fully aware of what situation he is exactly in.

>>53271215
Why are you so angry while beating the shit out of a strawman?

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>>53270872
(((Primaris))) Marines

lets make this a thing

>>53271198
Angron is still quite likeable though.

>>53271198
turning into a demon prince probably dosent improve your personality though

>be space marine
>new primarus chadmarine joins company
>"hello battle brother!"
>chad walks over to me standing, a head taller.
>want to punch him.
>"he-hey chad"
>"im so pleased with guillamans actions during the dark times, right brother?"
>no fuck guillaman
>"y-ya hes great..."
>shit
>"sure is! see you later squirt"
>he puts his massive hands over my helmet rubbing it.
>"y-ou too"
>geneseed falls ot of pockets.

>>53269858
Honestly? I'm gonna kitbash them and just make them Deathwatch Marines. I like the armour but I'm not so much a fan of the fluff myself.

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>>53271288
>>geneseed falls ot of pockets.

>>53271267
he's not likable in the same sense as magnus who was a scholar and cared for his people on prospero
i sympathize with him and i can see why he did what he did but at the end of the day he's still just a crazy guy in a lot of pain that hurts people cause it's the only thing that brings him joy

>>53270880
Alpha legion infiltrate other factions and just keep their heads down until it's time to fuck with them.

>>53271314
He was a warrior and the emperor turned him into an attack dog. Ascending allowed him to he a warrior again. What's the problem?

>>53269858
The big thing I dislike is it kind of hurts the Imperium's thing about having older stuff be better and never really doing any tech advancement. But apparently Cawl can just make better bolters and bigger marines without any issue

>>53271314
Fuck Leman Russ honestly. Fuck the Emperor too, #RememberProspero

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>>53271288
>mfw the chad marines make the manlet marines clean thier guns and armor for them

>>53271343
Didn't you know? Cawl uses his protagonist powers to ignore Mechanicus law.

How many new xeno faction with full plastic release will we get before SoB get a proper update?

>>53271334
no problem at all , alongside magnus he's the only primarch who i think had good cause to turn to chaos.
He's just not likable as in he's not a nice guy due to the whole butchers nail's thing, not his fault i know

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>>53271343
>But apparently Cawl can just make better bolters and bigger marines without any issue
You never noticed that the mechanicus doesn't give it's actual good stuff to the imperium? Even the tall marines aren't as good as the war servitors the mechanicus uses.

>>53271377
Zero, because only marines will ever be fully updated. They'll just pump out even superer-marines once the Primaris run their course.

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How sick nasty are lychguard gonna be do you guys think?
They're for sure gonna be multiwound and hitting first will be awesome, not to mention if they can take ghost arks now

>>53271156
Gotta get rid of the old marinelets.

Rowboat arrives just in time to witness the last Blood Angel die, except for Dante.

>"Hello nephew!" Rowboaty bellows, "I see you lost all your battle brothers, but fear not. For I have prepared for this. Sat hello to the Sanguine Angles!"
>1000 Primaris Marines, in red armour with a white acute angle symbol on their shoulders step forward.

>>53271372
>>53271343
mechanicus still invents new things though ?
they just focus a lot more on archeotech because it's 10 times more advanced than anything they can come up with

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>>53269858
Let's just get something straight here.

In what FUCKING UNIVERSE IS PIC RELATED GOTHIC!?

This does not look even remotely gothic. If anything it is wholly removed from the gothic aesthetic or even that baroque, it looks like plain generic sci fi armor..

>>53271346
>Necron Warrior talking shit about Marinelets
>Not realizing it is a Necronlet for the Immorchads

So in the lore Ciaphas Cain is still alive right now, what do you guys think he's doing with all this stuff going on?

>be space marine
>new primaris marine joins company
>get deployed on mission, his squad is riding with ours in a rhino
>"hello *clang* battle brothers!"
>don't think he noticed his head banged the side of the hatch
>"What's that?"
>"What's that?"
>"What's that?"
>Keeps pointing to random objects like grass or flowers
>Like he was raised in a tube or something
>Finally make it to the battlefield
>"Alright, maneuvers 215, 122, contingency 8"
>"Uhm...hold on, let me check the codex again?"
>Guy didn't even study properly
>I've met scouts with more combat experience
>Take positions in the bushes, big guys are giving us away from their size
>And he's petting a rabbit now, great

>>53271395
He doesn't know about the 3 new xeno factions

>laughingxenogirls.jpg

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>>53271426
See this, this is Gothic.

>>53271343
>Have a character who was alive when all the advanced shit was being invented
>being surprised that said character can still invent shit and remembers how to build powerful devices

People keep forgetting that Cawl is fucking 10,000 years old and fucking witnessed the heresy and probably came up with a lot of important tech the imperium actually uses

>>53271426
It's better than rogue trader era space cops