Strange and Original Weapons Thread

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I was considering starting such a thread for my upcoming Conan game

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>>53268351

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>>53268364

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>>53268425

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>>53268442

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> African Fantasy Tips
https://pastebin.com/PKFJzHfA

I found some new stuff to show

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>>53268463

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>>53268475

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>>53268490

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>>53268482
>Once upon a time, some blacksmith stepped back from his forge, looked at this blade and said "this is totaly absolutely a good idea"

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>>53268510

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>>53268512
It was meant for this one. Oh well, it qualifies for both.

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>>53268530

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>>53268532

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>>53268545

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>>53268547
Not real but I always liked it.

>>53268425
mm, Quake

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>>53268558

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>>53268560

>>53268560
seems a pain in the ass to reload, but probably good against monsters, where single bolt is like a mosquito bite

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>>53268574

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>>53268577

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>>53268587

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>>53268590
Is it me or captcha works like shit these past few days?

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>>53268606

>>53268609
Failing to contact and repeating th

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>>53268609

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>>53268622

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>>53268622
>>53268626
We're hiveminding now

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>>53268649

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>>53268648
>>53268649
Jung's sinchronicity is a wondrous thing.

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>>53268661

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>>53268668

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>>53268676
>currency knife
I learned something today.

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>>53268688

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>>53268698

>>53268698
>Hey, is this a gladius?
>Gladius? GLADIUS? THIS! IS! SPATHA!

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>>53268719

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>>53268698
I'm shedding some light on those wacky african designs. A bunch of them are like >>53268668 and >>53268648: money.

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>>53268734

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>>53268749

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>>53268758

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>>53268781
That thing seems to me so stupidly dangerous i had to find you a video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMAsCuDFSUI

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>>53268773

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>>53268800

>>53268800
>so stupidly dangerous
why? it's just a longer katar

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>>53268804

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>>53268821
And i'm done, gentlemen, have a good day.

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>>53268826

>>53268824
The urumi, I meant

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>>53268846

>>53267349

Anyone got any good exotic polearms?

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>>53268858
ah, makes sense

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KillerYoYo

shit, apparently yoyos started as a weapon...

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>>53268873
How exotic?

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>>53268912

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>>53268984

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>>53269004

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>>53268661
This looks beautiful. How effective was it?

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>>53269087
Not him, but as it looks pretty much a falcata, very.

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>>53269147

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>>53269087
Hard to say. They seem to have been quite common for a decent while, which may suggest that they worked rather well, but it could just be that carrying one was more a matter of fashion than practicality for many.

Some of the yataghans I've handled sometimes have very wide grips, which could point towards them being more for show, but plenty of others have entirely reasonably grips, and their construction otherwise usually seems sane and sound enough. Overall my guess is that they perform about as well as you'd expect from a very alrge knife/short sword. Just adjust your fighting style to account for the lack of a guard.

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>>53269173
this formation shall be known as "makbeth's doom"

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>>53269255
Don't get it.

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>>53269244

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>>53269274

>>53269274
Makbeth was told that he won't die until a forest itself attacks his castle

what i'm saying, this formation looks like a fucking forest

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>>53269244
aren't these just backscratchers?

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>>53269274
"Be lion-mettled, proud, and take no care
Who chafes, who frets, or where conspirers are.
Macbeth shall never vanquish'd be until
Great Birnam Wood to high Dunsinane Hill
Shall come against him."

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>>53269328
Oh, ok, I hadn't ever read Macbeth. Just Othelo, and in portuguese at the time. Perhaps I'll apreciate it more nowadays, reading in english.

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>>53269324
For an old boar perhaps, but I think I'd prefer something a bit less harsh against my skin.

On the other hand, these may not be the most effective of weapons, sometimes the goal is rather to, say, look exotic and intriguing to the general public during demonstrations.

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I'm honestly disappointed there's a ridiculously minimal amount of fiction that has someone using the funky shaped African throwing knives.

>>53269365
at first glance I thought those weren't arms, but chicken's belly. and the daggers were supposed to be its feet

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>>53269365
We even have similar things in Europe, "hurlbats".

>>53269409
that inscriptions claims it's supposed to be a Khajiit Bard

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>>53269365
>>53269357

>>53269365
That makes two of us. You might have luck searching for the "sword and soul" genre.
https://afrofantasy.net/2015/04/15/in-defense-of-sword-and-soul/

>>53269491
If i remember properly the insriptions means something among the line of "King Something forged and engraved this blade himself for his use"

>>53269619
khopesh is such a sexy weapon

>>53268581
yeah that seems like something good to hand to the fighter or paladin, someone big and burly to fire one burst before dropping it and closing to melee

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>>53269638
INdeed. I remember the guys from the extras of the Gadiator VHS at the time, saying that he didn't manage to draw a concept of it and had to go strait to the prototype phase on his hunch that it could work.

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>>53269557
"Sword made for King Goujian of Yue, for his personal use."

http://thomaschen.freewebspace.com/custom2.html

>>53269729
Ah, i thought it meant "Sword made BY King etc.". A tad bit less interesting then. The idea of a king who was also a superlative swordsmith was too tempting to me.

>>53269799
what are subjects if not but hands and tools of the king, mere extensions of his divine will?

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>>53269729
How do you even use this

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>>53269799
While not quite that, the Japanese Emperor Go-Toba took a large interest in sword making (and use), inviting many of the nation's best smiths to come work at the imperial palace on a rotating schedule. And in some cases, he would carry out the quenching of blades himself, the one here being one example thereof.

>>53269894
You thread a long stick into those rings and you get a makeshift polearm?

>>53270135
From what I understand blades with rings were just for shows and demonstrations, to make it more impressive with the noise of the pieces clattering not for actual combat use.

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>>53270135
I'm in the "they're there to be cool" camp.

Here's on the other hand is a blade (leaning on the machete side of things I think) of Taiwanese style though that you can turn into a polearm, as the handle is also a socket.

>>53270135
I was talking about the >>53269729 thing which really make no sense to me at all if it is even a weapon.

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>>53270491
Ah, that.

The kau sin ke on top is mostly just a whip. Flail away. The thing underneath, well, hm, some kind of deerhorn knife offshoot maybe?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3yucrL8SC4

Then going form that to how it'd look in a fight, and adapting for our new ring style knife, well, good luck I guess. It's something though. And to be honest I feel most of the "martial arts weapons", hook swords, deerhorn knives, and so on are probably in the same category as >>53269353, more for show than anything else.

Cool thread. very enlightening.

Probably the first time I've gone on 4chan and actually learned something

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>>53270578
Thanks man.
Here have a not-exotic sword.

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>>53270578
Man, I fucking love hookswords

>>53270454
Japanese hunters in one part of the country used a socketed heavy knife the same way.

>>53267349
I was real sad when Higgins shut down.

It was a cool little place.

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>>53271545
Okinawa maybe? That'd be relatively close by.

>>53268512
that unicorn horn pike tip though. 10/10

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>>53271969
Most likely ceremonial as well. I highly doubt these blades ever draw blood.

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>>53267349
How the fuck are you supposed to even hold that thing, much less murder someone with it?

>>53272308

By the handle and getting them with the sharp bits.

>>53268532
Somebody get this nigga some Viagra

>>53272308
It's a throwing knife

>>53269087
Seems fine design wise to me, it's a common shape that appears here and there throughout history. Relatively specialized but effective. That one looks kind of thin in the middle but that's just me.

>>53272371
I get the idea of the weird throwing knives, but that blade seems so unpractical i fail to see the point. Once again, a purely ceremonial sword?

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>>53272524
Possibly, though it doesn't seem quite so outrageous to me. Grab the copper-wrapped part, beak forward, and there you go.

>>53272558

KM, you have any non-Katana/Wakizashi/Tanto Japanese blades? Particularly Japanese knives that aren't Tantos.

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>>53272524
A quick Google search suggests it could be indeed some sort of Indian Nayar temple sword, of which there were numerous shapes. But i'm a mere layman at this.

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>>53272640
Pic related is another "sword for show only" of Mayar origin, from said quick search, despite the usual interpretation of a weapon designed solely to hamstring horses, which seems to be an extremely narrrow use, and highly impractical in terms of swordmanship.
Well at least it looks super cool.

>>53272690
>I had forgotten all about that thing! It was an anomaly to be sure, and certainly not commonly seen features on a blade for cavalry or for that matter any military purpose I can think of. While the terrible practice of deliberately incapacitating horses was certainly something done in the throes of combat, it was accomplished with conventional weapons, not specifically designed 'tools' as far as I know.

>I recall when I first saw this, the curiously angled distal part of the blade and the serpentine section above it really defy all practicality toward combat use as far as I could see. Interestingly the blade profile did in degree remind me of the Nayar temple sword types as well as the earlier Barabadur type mentioned in my previous post (Rawson).

>Since there seem to be at least two of these seemingly fanciful weapons, it would be interesting if anyone could present more on what these might have been intended for. Obviously the military was not likely to have weapons for the ritual type situations we are discussing, but perhaps these might have been implements for foragers, such as sickle type use to harvest fodder for the horses. It seems few references focused on cavalry attend to the more mundane aspects in campaigns, but it seems this idea for such a 'weapon'.

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>>53272558
Bah, mis-link, meant for >>53272308

>>53272616
A few odd things in or meant for tanto mounts or so are about what I can.

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>>53272690
>Pic related is another "sword for show only" of Mayar origin

Spanish military, probably experimental, has also been suggested, supposedly by the sign in that very picture: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=8341

>>53272812
I stand corrected. Thanks for the precisions.

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Edge up, goes in tanto mounts, used for gardening work.

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And at least one that solidly fits the wish, a warabite no tachi, one of the earliest sword types used in Japan.

>>53268800
>that video
Surprisingly a google search for "urumi wounds" bring no results

>>53272856
Is there a higher resolution pic of this kind of weapon?
I'm interested for reasons

>>53267349

The best unusual weapons are the ones made from innocuous laborers' tools. Stuff made for cutting thickets or butchering meat that turns out to have a marvelously similar effect on humans.

Like the bill hook.

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Why the fuck hasn't somebody made an African fantasy setting? These weapons are too fantastical not to slay monsters with.

>>53272758
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>>53272856
>>53272909
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>>53272954

Thanks KM. Anything you can tell me about >>53272758 in particular?

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>>53273802
Because not a lot of people are familiar with their mythology and lore, a lot of it was either destroyed by Islam or subsumed into local Christian sects, and most of the peoples and tribes that weren't Ethiopia or West Africa never bothered to either record much or develop properly as a culture so what there was was lost due to their oral natures. Further, many cultures often had vaguely different customs and hated eachother in the same way that England and France have historically hated eachother.

Further, a properly accurate Fantasy Africa would equally piss of both /pol/ and /leftypol/. The former for being about black people that aren't 100% oogabooga savages with very little white people, while the latter would get pissy about black people being portrayed as having slave-powered empires just as bad at the Europeans and not as either enlightened civs or noble savages.

Basically, it requires too much research on too little information and works with too much of a powderkeg subject matter

>>53274194
I mean, you don't necessarily have to make it a 1:1 recreation of Africa. A lot of Euro-centric fantasy settings take elements of European aesthetics and folklore and improvise the rest to help their setting stand out. We know enough about African aesthetics and folklore to at least get a suitable basis for a setting and the rest could be left to the setting creator.

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>>53274012
Nope. All I cna recall is that it was posted in some forum somewhere as an example of just how odd and unorthodox things can get at times, and that's about it.

Here's a double edged wakizashi btw. Be careful with your noto.

>>53274395
The Black Kingdoms of Conan? Possibly a bit too much on the "savages in mudhouses" side of things in Howard's texts but there is enough room for surviving advanced city states in one's personnal canon.

>>53274483
You could do things like combine the West African empires like Oyo, Benin, Dahomey, etc. and have their fiction fantasy counterparts behave more like the Italian Merchant Republics.

>>53268409
Literal fucking orc swords.

>>53273802
The face of the guy to the left always gets me.

>>53274194
>Because not a lot of people are familiar with their mythology and lore, a lot of it was either destroyed by Islam or subsumed into local Christian sects
Islam in most african regions did subsume local stuff, too. Even harder than christian sects, because it had more time. Pretty much the reason why the Islam there is very laid back.

>>53273802

Aren't these the bad guys from that one episode of Samurai Jack that takes place back when he was first training in that African village?

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>Scabard of +1D6 damage to crocodilians

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small arab javelin

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>>53268910
It's basically a weight on a string you can strike people with. And if your enemy is off guard during a surprise round you can strangle the motherfucker with the rope.

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Not rare as a weapon, but extremely rare in fiction.

>>53269626
BEAT THE BLADE! HOOK THE LEG! BEAT THE BLADE! HOOK THE LEG!BEAT THE BLADE! HOOK THE LEG! BEAT THE BLADE! HOOK THE LEG! BEAT THE BLADE! HOOK THE LEG! BEAT THE BLADE! HOOK THE LEG! BEAT THE BLADE! HOOK THE LEG! BEAT THE BLADE! HOOK THE LEG!

>>53277861
Away with you, O' Pharaoh of Fags, lest I tell the Sea Peoples where you live.

>>53277135

Nice, don't often see Osoraku-Zukuri style blades.

>>53277800
Dragon's Dogma is the only game in recent memory I can think of that had warpicks/hammers approach a reasonable facsimile of what they actually looked like.

>>53267349
>chain whip
looks cool as fuck, horribly impractical. but cool, as, fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z0OXJj2POE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGa5RrKpLwI

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I wonder if these shot in a spread or a line.

>>53278349
I didn't know the Shaolin invented breakdancing

>>53278472
Think of them like a really big shot gun. Nothing actually flies straight when you shoot it unless you design it to do so.

>>53278349
That could be effective against unarmored and unskilled opponents who don't know how to deal with it. Looks very very easy to disable but an untrained person wouldn't want to fuck with a guy wielding a chain whip.

>>53268482
Meet the weapon that forced the Romans to change their tactics. Glorious.

>>53273802

Umm... What is Nyambe?

I'll take "Damn easy to Google" for $300, Alex.

>>53273278
You have a pic of the whole thing?

>>53278163
Eh, I think most of the reason why gigantic weapons exist in video games is because when you scale a realistic hammer down to the length of a needle, you won't see the damn thing.

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>>53277800
Dwarves, lad.

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>>53280113
usually we get this

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>>53280123

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>>53280141

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>>53280150

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>>53277800
Anon there's an entire setting named after the war hammer in which everyone and their mother caries a war hammer.

>>53280185
A katana hilt on any other shape of blade but the katana is the ugliest shit.

>>53279710
>$300

damn dude when was the last time you watched jeopardy

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>>53278472
It's a mortar, either for launching grenades, signal flares, or fireworks. Either way, single projectile.

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>>53268609
That's fucking incredible, man. Looks straight out of some ogre's cache.

>all those weapons that were never actually used in real life
>just like throwing axes and throwing knives, two-handed swords, and like 90% of every weapon that wasn't a spear, at least according to my extensive research of browsing /tg/ every day

why did humans make so many weapons that no one ever used

>>53284745
For the same reason we carve giant faces into stone, turn forests into deserts and deserts into 5-star hotels, and dare to go into the freakin' vacuum of space.

Because someone, somewhere, once said "we can't/shouldn't". To which someone else responded "WITNESS ME".

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>>53268873
Scorpion

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>>53284745
>>53270578
>And to be honest I feel most of the "martial arts weapons", hook swords, deerhorn knives, and so on are probably in the same category as >>53269353, more for show than anything else.
While I don't think martial artsy weapons were used in great number (or even a noticeable number), I do think they were used.

Every weapon under the sun may have already been made, but that doesn't stop people from trying to re-invent the wheel.

Consider how many martial artists historically and today tend to create weapons for themselves/their style/their school.

Maybe they modified something to their preference so much it became its own thing, maybe they wanted to leave a mark on history, or maybe they just wanted to design their own special snowflake weapon. But if just one guy carried it it's still technically used historically.

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>>53277005
for some reason I really love flat-tipped swords

>>53278472
>a spread or a line
YES

These are all cool, don't get me wrong, but they are mostly variations of same common weapon types - swords, spears, hammers, daggers, throwing knives, swords, etc.

Are there any weapons that would logically constitute their own weapon type, rarely seen anywhere?
Besides that indian blade whip.

>>53285548
There is a limit to the more or less practical ways you can affix a blade to an handle. And some of the examples there go waaaaaay beyond that already.

>>53285548
>Are there any weapons that would logically constitute their own weapon type, rarely seen anywhere?
It's hard to say since logically you can distill any weapon into its concepts and slot it amongst existing types.