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>plays dwarfs in Fantasy/AoS
>every time a unit is wiped out, pulls out a grimy marble notebook
>visibly smells
>does this every game
>curiosity finally wins
>"That Guy... what is that?"
>"I'm writing down the point values of my losses in your entry for today."
>I'm in the Notebook of Grudges.
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>>53258261
Does he write down anything else or is he just autisticly obsessed with seeing his army losses?
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I had the unfortunate encounter with a guy that had no concept of either proper hygiene or personal space
>taking a smoke break
>stinky mcstankass comes over
>stands legit 12-15 inches away while talking
>can actually feel his steamy stank breath
>make up excuse that I had to leave, never went back
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>>53258298
also his opponent's specific hero/lords and what they kill. Not the dramatis personae named ones, but the generic ones
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>post apocalyptic setting
>character knocks female bandit leader unconscious
>instead of killing her, he proceeds to sever her spine with a scalpel, paralyzing her from the legs down and keep her as a prisoner
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>>53258261
>visibly smells
>visibly
>smells
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>>53258669
If you're going to be smelly, at least show some dedication to it.
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>>53258635
this is why I keep my hobby a secret from ladies.
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>>53258635
As a GM, this would be my response

>'You sever the spinal cord, before realizing you haven't properly disinfected anything and your 'patient' is bleeding out'
>'b-b-but I have type O'
>'You have something labeled type O, not something that IS it.'

I really don't let fetish shit fly when I realize what it is.
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>>53258713
Or she has AIDS
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>>53258635
>>53258713
I think the guy actually posted this particular story here before. Made point to emphasize the spinal damage had the captive not just permanently crippled but also incontinent.
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shit that never happened.txt
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>>53258730
Too slow, give them a bacterial infection instead, the black plague maybe.
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>>53258776
>incontinent
>this is a fetish

As a medical professional, I can safely say humanity disgusts me.
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>>53258635
Oh my fucking god not this again. It's a shit story stop telling it in every single that guy thread
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>always plays women
>they are always characterized as thieving cowards
>never says anything good about the rest of the party and constantly berates them for the most minor infractions
>shows the enthusiasm of a corpse in the table
>whenever it's his turn in combat, he needs to let out a very loud raspberry-blowing sigh before just going "I shoot it"
>after the game, he gives us a very "in-depth" analysis on why his political leanings are better than the other idiots who are wrong
>for that shit he actually shows some enthusiasm

Sometimes I'm glad I accidentally burn bridges with some people.
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>>53258713
He was real careful and rolled insanely high on his healing check. She still developed an infection and is dying. They cart her around in a wheel chair and after I described her misery and suffering the player felt guilty so his character handed her a note saying he was sorry for what he did to her.
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>>53258810
More like crippled rape slave. except that wasn't his intent. He said he wanted to give her a new life in the village they lived in, but not sexually he just did the spine severing th ing to "punish" her for holding him prisoner (even though he was treated fairly well). I don't even think he was trying to be edgy, he's just....weird sometimes.
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>>53258890
>'im sorry' for making you into a cripple for my own fetish fuel

Who actually does this without thinking of all the negative shit? Also, spinal surgery is a risky business today when we have all the medicine we could ask for, how the hell can someone try to perform it after the world ends?
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>>53258261
Well, he's playing dwarfs right.
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>That Guy plays a chaotic evil character in a good party
>Tries to kill a player character for no real reason other than "It's funny ahaha"
>throws a fit when said player character wipes the floor with his chaotic evil character
>"Woooow anon why did you do that?!"
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>>53258948
>Who actually does this without thinking of all the negative shit?

Peiple with poor impulse control i.e. about 30 percent of my gaming group
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>>53258948
Someone that doesn't actually understand what they did was wrong, only that other people are upset at them for it.
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>>53258261
Is that semen on the spine?
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>>53258261
Plays two characters
> One is the little girl, who's a serial killer and necromancer
> The other is a self harming, does stupid shit like insulting an npc and then trying to kill them if they insult her in return and has been insinuated several times to have a dick.
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>>53258635
I thought you were going to say he raped her
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>>53258868
>Talking politics at the table EVER
Christ
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>>53260887
No although for a few minutes I was sure that was where it was going.
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>>53259854
The funny thing is that no one was upset. I was kinda like wtf and a bit sad my NPC was gonna die but other than that it was xhill. Guess that's what I get for making a river ram ripoff npc.
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>>53258261
I don't see this at That Guy behavior.
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>>53261193
Yeah, its not terrible. Just sort of cringy and autistic
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>>53261210
Yeah... maybe if he did something with it... like... I dunno. Something creative with it atleast.
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>>53258261
Weird, but perfectly acceptable behavior, so long as he doesn't take it personally
>>53260456
or there's semen on the spine.
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>>53258868
>Military base in 91-92
>Open game at rec center
>Guy only plays females
>Guy keeps notebook of every character he has played
>Guy have picture ripped out of porno mag for each character
>Guy is late 30's USAF TSGT
>All the other players are teenage boys
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>>53261267
If he used his notebook to single out targets for his grudge throwers, for example, regardless of their tactical value

That would be hella cool and ballsy
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>>53258890
>his character handed her a note saying he was sorry for what he did to her.
Do you play with a group of kindergartners?
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>>53258334
>smoking
And you thought HE smelled.
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>>53258868
>>53261440
Holy fucking shit, what?

>>53261700
Maybe it's just because all my friends are chain smokers, but there's a difference. tobacco doesn't smell awesome all the time, but at least it isn't like a fucking physical assault on your sense of smell like a fat guy who hasn't taken a shower and washed out his folds.
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>>53258890
>>53258922

STOP FUCKING POSTING THIS STORY FUCK. We don't care about your fantasies, neither the one about you being a DM or having friends, nor the one where you project your fetish of a crippled slave onto your imaginary player. Just fucking stop it.
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>>53261947
>at least it isn't like a fucking physical assault on your sense of smell like a fat guy who hasn't taken a shower and washed out his folds.

Yes it is. What's more, it's an assault on the health of you and everyone around you. Just stop.
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>>53261987
>it's an assault on the health of you and everyone around you

not if you do it too
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>>53261950
You seem a little butthurt, kid
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>>53262011
>Can't be a passive smoker if you are already smoking.
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>>53258810
Fuck man I just spent all day dealing with incontinent patients with spinal/neuro problems. Why would this be a fetish. Why would you think impromptu neurosurgery would lead to anything but misery and death. You don't know what your doing and if you did you never would.

Fuck that guys. Killing the npc would be a kindness. And killing the player would be also a good idea.
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>>53258713
>making an asspull because something offends your sensibilities instead of letting a natural chain of events occur
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>>53258868
sounds like one of my former players
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>>53258261
>Dwarf player keeps an actual book of grudges

That's kind of neat actually. That'd be like seeing an IG player with Rommel's book next to him on the table or an eldar player with a massive dildo shoved up their ass because they're all massive faggots.
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>>53261947
Anon, forever remember that smell, and apply that exact sensation to every single person you decide to be around. That is how every single non-smoker among them feels, every single time you smoke.
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>>53258261
I too used to have a book of grudges bacm in the day, bu tried to roleplay it more
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>>53258635
>post apocalyptic setting
>wasting food on handicapped slaves
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>>53261014
>not having a Tories - Whig conflict in your fantasy setting kingdom
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>>53264884
Wait what? Second hand smoke smells awesome. Nothing compared to weeks of jizz, sweat, shit and all manners of other crust some people have on them.
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>>53258810
You don't need a medical background for that. Just go outside for an hour.
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>>53259854
>Someone that doesn't actually understand what they did was wrong

You have a person who needs to be institutionalized if they don't find anything wrong with that.
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>>53265068
I always worry about this as a GM, but then I got to play once and immediately decided my characters endgame is to paint the map EU3-style with a new federation so I guess I'm a hypocrite
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>>53265157
Bullshit. I know, my hag of a mother smoked constantly during my childhood.
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>>53265322
As did many people's. Are you really telling me the stank of a basement person is equal or comparable to a smoker, even a chain smoker? I will not be ranked among those kinds of people. I do not smell like jizz and when people smell my tobacco aroma, they don't have the same experience as when they would recognize the smell of jizz and shit on someone. You know these 2 kinds of smelling are not comparable at all.
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>>53265367
Not that guy, but yes it is comparable you just don't notice because you're accustomed to that smell. Chain smokers smell fucking horrible and you can know one the second they enter the same room as you.
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>>53258261
Book of Grudges is good thing, not bad. For a dwarf player.
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>>53265367
I'll put my point on fragrances in a simpler way. I'd rather spend my time with people who smell of tobacco, than with people who smell like a basement person. I don't like the smell of human excrement at all, but hey we all have our own magical realms.
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>>53258713
>>'You have something labeled type O, not something that IS it.'
What does this mean?
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>>53265420
I liked the smell of second hand smoke way before I started to smoke myself.
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>>53262109
>forcing your fetish into a tabletop
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>>53264884
You seem to be oversensetibe. Smoleńsk dose not smell do badania if someone dose not smoke cig after cig
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>>53265157
>>53265367
Smoker smell is nasty, but not in the same way. It's more of the "Oh god you smell like industrial waste because you've been smoking it" sort of way
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>>53265429
The container has the marking of "type o". The stuff inside might be something else.
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>>53265469
Or be unusable after refrigeration fails.
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>>53265469
That sounds pretty dickish. If you don't want him to find type O blood, just don't have him find type O blood.

Don't hand out a container marked 'O' and then pull the rug out from under him.
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>>53258261
>>53258507
>>53258966
>>53261193
>>53264868
>>53265028
>>53265422

Proper Dwarf behavior. Grimnir agrees.

/thread.
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>>53265499
Well how would a character know if a red liquid is what they need it to be? Did he run some tests?
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>>53265464
This is more appropriate. I really don't think the smell of tobacco raises the same kind or level of disgust, the smell of unwashed basement life does.
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>>53258261
>plays AoS
>visibly smells
Apart from this, the rest is awesome and having a notebook of grudges is fluffy af.
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>>53265579
How would anyone knows anything is anything them? Do your players need to second guess every single thing you say to them because you're a horrible storyteller? This is bad writing 101.
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>>53265840
If something is obvious, then it is obvious. How obvious is red liquid in a jar? Ok let's say the character tastes it and can tell it's blood. Can he taste the type of it? Does your world have everything labeled? Are the labels in your world honest?
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>>53265872
>Are the labels in your world honest?
this is the part where your logic breaks down
there is no conceivable reason why someone would specifically mislabel a type of blood that happens to be the perfect type for donor purposes, other than you being a nigger.
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>>53265872
It's not about something stupid like "everything being correctly labeled" it's about you pulling the rug from under your players with bullshit. If you pull stuff like that that's telling them not to trust anything the DM, their narrator, tells them, because what's obvious for them from their perspective might not be for you.
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>>53265885
I'm not the guy who posted the original green text, so I wouldn't know how the container of blood came to his possession. If he got it from let's say a hospital and the type of it is verified, then he should have np. If he collected it himself from like a person he stabbed, he should determine what type it is. In the latter scenario, he has many opportunities to fail in knowing just what it is.

I hope you are not one of those dungeon crawlers, who only come across items labeled in world as sword +1s and chain mails of radiance or some such. You know like when you play rpgs on a computer.
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>>53265946
the question shouldnt be whether the blood is the correct type, but why the person who originally wrote it would incorrectly label it. If it were unlabeled it would make sense, but it makes no god damn sense someone would go through the process of labeling something a specific blood type if they didn't know.
Now if you were cautious sure, but it seems to me that the doubt was cast purely so the DM could railroad the character into failing.
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>>53265946
there is a bit of a fucking difference between "accurately labelling blood transfusion packs in a hospital where people fucking die if you make a mistake" and "knowing all the details of a random mystery sword in a dungeon"

Or, if this analogy doesn't work, I would expect things like ammunition, fuel, fire extinguishers etc to be accurately labelled by the manufacturer in a modern setting, but wouldn't expect a fantasy magic item to be
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>>53258948
>>53259807
>>53259854
>>53261054
>>53265261
or maybe that guy just wants to have fun and tries to create the most bizarre scenarios so anyone can have a laugh.
some of you guys take role-playing too seriously, isn't the point to have a good time?
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>>53265840
...well...yes? I would kind of expect a group if survivors in a post apoc world to second, third and fourth guess even their own existance once in a while (especially after a fight by the way), or end up very dead in a couple days, top.
>>53265885
Except maybe it was used to store something else after the blood run out, for example. Hell for all you know it might very well be a novelty BBQ sauce dispenser. When dungeoneering, don't you have the habit to check if the +3 sword you found in the lich tomb is horribly cursed? Why would you after all, it was labeled "perfectly normal magic sword, adventurer friendly!" , right...?
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>>53265999
eh I guess you have a point
it really depends on the context
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>>53265985
>there is a bit of a fucking difference...
I agree. In modern world we have many procedures.
In a fantasy cave, the natural laws might include magical descriptors.

>Or, if this analogy doesn't work,
I don't understand this writing.

My only point is how can a character know what something is if he doesn't determine what it is. Isn't there knowledge rolls even in dnd?
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>>53265992
>to create the most bizarre scenarios so anyone can have a laugh
>graphically preform physical and psychological torture for the purpose of making someone suffer because they inconvenienced you
>bizarre scenario so anyone can have a laugh

If by 'anyone', you mean grade-A fucking weirdos, and 'have a laugh' you mean getting their kicks at the table. I guess that was happening. Generally that type of thing isn't considered funny by healthy people, even when it's just pretend.
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>>53258261
>pulls out a grimy marble notebook
>visibly smells

Am I the only one who read this to mean it's just an old-ass book with old book smell and wasn't an indictment of the fat neckbeard?
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>>53265999
>Hell for all you know it might very well be a novelty BBQ sauce dispenser.
Every gun you find might be a novely lighter. Antibiotics may be hilariously mislabeled psychedelics. Oops, you filled your gun's magazine with cartridges that are actually novelty paperweights. That 'harmless' rabbit you ignored five minutes ago is actually a mutated killer lagomorph, which will now hunt you down and kill you in your sleep. Those rations you bought in the last town were tainted with giardia. You're going to shit your guts out and be a useless target for a week. That warm coat you found just before the cold season was actually lined with rusty needles and razor blades. You die of tetanus.

I could do this with everything. It wouldn't make for good storytelling, and it wouldn't make me a good DM.
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>>53266132
Were in a that guy -thread. From context, I'd take it to mean body odor.
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>>53265157
>Second hand smoke smells awesome
It smells goddamn terrible to anyone who isn't a smoker.
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>>53258261
I had a player do something similar in an RPG.

Whenever you disagreed with him either in-character or out-of-character, he wrote down your character's name on a real, physical shit list. He wasn't very imaginative. Being on the list at all usually meant he would be looking for an opportunity to kill your character without anyone finding out.
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>>53266190
Still think many would prefer it over the smell of a basement person.
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>>53266209
I don't think many people keep track of a ranked list of bad smells.

Or is that just my non-autistic privilege speaking?
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>>53266209
Maybe, but it's a close call.
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>>53266217
>not ranking your farts in the FARTBOOK
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>>53266242
>not ranking your faps in the JIZZBOOK
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>>53266217
On an instinctive level most people do keep a list of odors they react to accordingly. I mean tobacco smell is more socially acceptable, than the smell of unwashed basement awful. This is one reason why smokers can attract non smokers, while basement folks... Well you know.

>Or is that just my non-autistic privilege speaking?
I don't think you are as well socialized as you think.
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>>53265367

It depends on the tabbaco. My dad used to smoke this really cheap stuff and it was the worst smell in the world, really acrid and made me feel physically sick. Still occasionally meet people at the LGS who smoke the same stuff and it's worse than any gamer stank I've smelt.
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>>53266522
Well you are right there. I like pic, smoke it from a pipe and go through a bag in 3-5 days. No complaints from anyone. Smokers or otherwise.
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>>53266284
When you start to throw vague terminology like 'on an instinctive level' around, I stop listening to you.

Just don't be a smelly cunt. Shower regularly. Don't smoke in confined, poorly ventilated spaces. Wash the smell of both cigarettes and bodily secretions out of your clothes.
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>>53266575
>smoke it from a pipe
Of course you fucking do. There's always at least one.
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>>53261440
This dude honestly sounds kind of like a cool character. I mean, who the fuck buys porno mags anymore, let alone scrapbooks them for character sheets?
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>>53266605
Not that anon but pipe smoking is fun as fuck. Makes me feel like a wizard or a Hobbit or something.
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>>53262109
"Rocks fall, everyone dies".

Totally natural and absolutely regular.
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>>53266583
Ok I'm not native murrica speaker. I sometimes am challenged with vocabulary. So tell me the correct term for the thought process, that happens under the radar of your consciousness? I'm meaning those split second decisions you make all the time, that you don't really think about. I always thought instinct is a fairly well defined term.
Other than that, I'm on board with the rest of what you said. Being clean is neat.
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>>53266612
>who the fuck buys porno mags anymore
>>Military base in 91-92

Anon...
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>>53266128
it'd be fun just to piss people like you off. You seem like those people who can't have fun unless everyone else is playing like you want them to play. That's not how you behave within a group.
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>>53266138
Sounds like somebody playing The Oregon Trail using D&D rules.
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>>53266638
No you idiot, that's a facetious meme that implies a DM has flipped the table like a raving lunatic.

It is in no way even remotely a common or expected part of role playing.

That's like expecting everyone who has a cat to constantly feed them cheeseburgers so they can "has" them.
Are you a fucking meme?
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>>53266634
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>>53266575
This. Pipe smoke smells pretty nice.
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>>53266659
Ohh, fuck. Right, nevermind then.
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>>53266677
Bretty sure that post was itself facetious, anon.
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>>53266605
Oh damn. That's a really bad burn. Fucking hipsters. I'm sincere here. In my country there are not too many of those around, so claiming I'm like one of those anglo-saxon numales really does feel bad.
What if I told you I used to smoke tobacco from a gravity bong and I'm now trying to cut my smokery?
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>eating at a restaurant in malaysia
>guy comes out and sets up a hookah for me
>gives me smoking bit with little removable plastic mouth piece
>tastes like cherries
>belly dancers dancing around nearby
>feel like a sultan

Neato.
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>>53266284
Let me put it another way. For me, cigarette smoke, including the smell and remnants that stick to people who recently or regularly smoke, makes it physically difficult for me to breath, especially in confined spaces. Spaces such as the close quarters of a tabletop environment not in a business/flgs. The worst a fat slob has made me feel is nauseous.
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>>53266696
>What if I told you I used to smoke tobacco from a gravity bong and I'm now trying to cut my smokery?
I would wonder what I did to end up in some random anon's smoking blog.
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>>53266711
...So what part of that is "That Guy behavior" exactly?
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>>53266720
Well everyone was talking about pipe smoking. I thought it was a neat story and possibly even more fedora-y.
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>>53266717
Do you have asthma? I have an aunt, who I won't smoke around at all while visiting for that reason. Also while I might smoke a lot, I don't like to do it in badly ventilated places. The smoke gets into your eyes and all that.
Common sense and being considerate is nice.
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>>53266719
You have been graced by the wisdom of RPGPundit.

Currently smoking: a million cocks
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>>53265529

>/threading your own post

It's worth a /thread, but it's not your right to bestow the honour. It's like patting your own back.

It does nothing but inflame and upset.
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>smoking
why do you voluntarily pick this habit? it's the poor people's addiction, and it doesn't make you cooler when everyone else does it too. the smell is really bad too, though it depends on the brand and wuality
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>>53258261

About to play in a group where everyone is couples but me.
To top that off, I'm putting the finishing touches to my new character, which is female and will be pulled apart when I introduce her since she carries traits of several media relevant characters, something which I noticed too late but want to roll with anyways.

All of these people are good people and we'll have a grand old time
But as a recently Forever DM who finally gets to play a character,
I'm scared that I'm That Guy now since I don't bring anything but my rule-laywering ways and cheeky Dm wits
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>>53266881
kys, nobody really gives a shit about your opinion.
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>>53266881
>Smoking is the poor mans addiction
What?
Do you do opium or some shit?
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>>53266663
>yeah I took a shit on the couch, are you upset? I bet you are you uptight bitch
>serves you right MOM for never letting me have any fun
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>>53265068
Three years of English civilization uni classes and I still got no fucking clue what's different between those two.
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>>53267094
it's not an opinion, it's a question, if you don't want to answer don't bother replying

>>53267109
i wasn't referring to how much it costs to smoke, just demographics. the lowest classes have the highest percentages of smokers
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>>53267094
>literally giving yourself cancer due to lack of discipline
>being this defensive about it

Ironically you are in facting "kysing"
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>>53265462
Macierewicz, jesteś na forum o pierdolonych grach planszowych, uspokój się kurwa
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>>53267109
I DO 40K
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>>53267276
>English
>civilization
top kek
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>>53262058
unlike the crippled woman
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>>53258966
You mean like an autistic?
I was on a Warhammer tournament where there was one Slayer army player who smashed every loss he suffered full force back into his army box.
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>>53266881
The burn reminds me I'm alive and have people to live for
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>>53266634
This. I just don't do it around people.
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>>53261950
It actually happened though. Sorry if you've never been in a real game so that's too hard to believe. Also stop Reddit spacing.
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>>53261523
No, the player in question is 18. The rest of the group is early to mid 20s with a ciu0le of teens.
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>>53266677
Your life is facetious
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>>53266652
I'm not him and I'm not as particular, but "by instinct" would be a less wordy way of putting it
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>>53258810
I find it fascinating, if only in a "car-on-fire" way sometimes.
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>>53265051
Well exactly. That's why I couldn't understand what the fuck he thought her "new life" was going to be. She's in a wheelchair, there aren't exactly handicap-accessible buildings in this place, they are living in aluminum siding and scrap wood nailed into crude shacks, sustenance farming which she can't help with except maybe to peel potatoes, no one will want to take care of her when she can't even clean up after herself, she'll constantly be in pain and a liability, a constant guilt burden on the entire village. I mean things are a bit better they do have a small food surplus, but not enough to support more than basic professions. People are still expected to be pretty self-sufficient, there is no ADA, and that's not even mentioning the fact that this girl has a spinal infection now that he's done that shit, so she is slowly dying in a lot of pain.
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>>53258815
why is it a shit story?

>>53258810
>>53258776
I'm sure it is a fetish but in the guy's case he was just being edgy and in my case I wanted to punish him for being edgy by making him acutely aware of what a fucked-up thing he had done. I wasn't jerking off to crippled girl shitting herself while they drag her through a ruined city in a wheelchair, I meant it to disturb the player so he would think before doing edgy shit again.

>>53262095
>Killing the npc would be a kindness.

They considered it. Her condition is taking a turn for the worse so unless they embrace some supernatural aspects of the setting she will probably die.

>And killing the player would be also a good idea.

he's a nice guy... just weird sometimes.
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>>53265367

I couldn't tell you what jizz smells like, but I do know the smell of tobacco and it's baddddddd
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>>53265367

Ex-smoker here, smoked for about 9 years, quit for about a half.

You fucking reek dude.

I'm from NYC and yes, I would rather be standing next to a homeless man that stinks of jizz, urine, and sweat (not feces though, those smell worse) than stand next to a smoker. It smells god-awful, but you can't tell, because your smell receptors are essentially fucked.
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>>53265885
A few conceivable examples;

>snake-oil salesman selling pigblood
>original contents have been used, replaced by other blood by original owner and was never relabeled
>that container of blood was available because it happened to be one marked for sabotage, in a long forgotten plot to assassinate someone or other

aside from all the reasons why a container of blood may no longer be usable in a post-apoc setting.
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>>53265946

No, but it's on the DM to describe an object as such so that the player can make a decision.

Consider the following:

1 - "The bag in front of you has about a pint of O- blood."
2 - "The bag of blood in front of you is labeled Type O-. It looks like it has about a pint.
3 - "The bag in front of you looks like it's filled with blood. It has one of those hospital stickers on it that says 'Type O- 1 pint."

In the first case, you as DM have clearly stated that this is a bag of Type O blood. Any decisions the player makes is based on that and if you change it to "lol it's not Type O" then you're a fucktarded goblin.

In the 2nd case, you are confirming that it's blood and there's a pint of it, but there could be room for interpretation on what kind of blood it is. I would say do a Medicine/First Aid/Heal/Science skill to determine whether that's accurate. If the player doesn't do so, it's on them.

In the 3rd case, you're being evasive. It can still be what it says, but if the player doesn't check, you can make it be literally anything, including ketchup or red paint or something.
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>>53266634

Then you might have autism.

>>53266679

No, it doesn't.

>>53266696

You don't "try" to quit smoking. As someone with experience, I can tell you that you either just stop - or don't. And if you don't stop, then it's because you don't REALLY want to.

>>53266711
Hookah is even worse for you due to the heavy metals and the fact that you're smoking for 1-2 hours.
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>>53266209
YOU

ARE

THAT GUY
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>Party reaches a town
>The squad is CG Half elf Bard(me), CN Tiefling Rogue, TN Human Fighter specced for ranged combat, and CN Human Barbarian
>Our contact in town wants us to help investigate a house on the outskirts of the village, that burned down a couple hours back
>It's a pretty sizeable building, so we start searching from the ground floor, I notice the fire spread from the basement, but keep it to myself
>After that we split into teams of 2, me and bow fighter go to the basement, rogue and barb go upstairs
>In the basment I we notice 2 charred corpses, right around what looks like the epicenter from which fire started
>Right in the middle there's a Tiefling child
>Fighter in all his genius wants to kill the child
>I start arguing that it might've been an accident, we need more info before acting
>Argument breaks out
>Tell him there's no way I'll let him harm the kid, he'll have to go through me
>Rest of the party runs down to us, thinking we're fighting someone
>They see the kid, scared, and notice exactly what's going on
>Rogue sides with me, barb with bowfighter, argument continues
>Say to them that I hope they can figure a way of healing themselves, because if they as much as look angrily at the kid, they can forget about me helping them in any way
>They yield to that, and we take the kid with us onto the journey, lie about the fire reason being alchemical fire accident
>DM after the session confirms the child holds no plot importance, it's just a random kid

So, am I that guy in this situation?
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>>53271320
no
most neutral characters would be adverse to hurting a child
fighting them would put you at a disadvantage so using your healing as leverage was the best way to end the conflict without bloodshed
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>>53266638
That *is* totally normal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meteorite_fall_statistics
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>>53271320
I mean it's hard to tell without hearing their take but it just sounds like a pretty strong role play session. I wish I had that kind of drama in my group, I'm tired of just straight co-op. I don't want pvp but I don't like that it can never be an option and we all magically have the same moral baseline and goals in mind.
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>>53270732
This. I still smoke and it smells obnoxious af
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>>53271521
>>53271558
It basically works this way
The human fighter thinks he's always fucking right, and will die before he admits he's wrong, barbarian is just racist against anything that's not human, while me and the tiefling rogue act as adoptive parents to the kid, teaching him shit, and having him watch our wagon.

That being said all players are really nice people, I love playing with them
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>>53270732
Casual smoker who likes the smell of tobacco here

Yeah that shit is the worst, it only smells good to the one smoking.To everyone else they reek and everyone hates them.
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>>53266190

I'm a non-smoker, but I like the smell of tobacco. It's comforting in a way, because it reminds me of when I would visit my father when I was a child and he would smoke a pipe.
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>>53266190
>>53271781
>>53265157
Pipe tobacco is war different from cigatette tobacco, it's like comparing steak to pink slurry.

Pipe tobacco is selected, bred and treated solely for flavour.

Cigarette tobacco is off-cuts, low grade tobacco sprayed with nicotine concentrate from even worse quality tobacco as well as shitload of chemicals to enhance absorption, heat release and cough suppressant.

So its no small wonder one smells pleasant and the other like a burning paint factory.
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>running an ascention campaign
>that guy pools all his points into intimidate
>it's funny at first when they're just dealing with bandits
>later in the campaign they're dealing with kings, dragons, vampires and epic heros
>still pooling all his points into intimidate
>get mad at me when I won't let him win every quest and encounter with a single dice roll
>"what the fuck anon, I rolled a 35!"
>EVERY
>TIME
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>>53265872
>>53265885
I don't know why you guys are arguing.

Blood goes bad. It can't be used after a certain amount of time.

And that's with working fridges.
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>Anti-smoking fag comes around and berates everyone who smokes for smoking

Anon is that guy.

I don't smoke and have never touched a cigarette in my life but I don't give a fuck if people do it. Smoke smell isn't like smelling someone who hasn't showered in 30 years coming up in your personal space
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>>53271918

I like the smell of cigarettes, too. The only thing I can't stand the smell of is cheap cigar smoke. For me, it's on the same level as basement dweller BO.
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what about that DMs?

>DM makes an overly complicated dungeon
>spend days trying to get through the first floor
>getting close to the end, everyone is pretty annoyed
>our meat decides to brute force a puzzle by lifting a stone door
>he has 40+ str, is pretty much a god among men when it comes to physical prowess
>DM makes him roll a str check and he throws his back out, losing 4 str
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>>53272792
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>>53258669
Synesthesia is a hell of a condition
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>>53261987
I stopped smoking half a year ago, and it is indeed a horrible vice. But your whining is giving me cancer dude
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>>53266663
>That's not how you behave within a group.
Yeah, not that anon, but this line applies a lot better to the spaz who decided it would be 'funny' if they had a crippled slave who was constantly shitting themselves.
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>>53270941
>Hookah is even worse for you due to the heavy metals and the fact that you're smoking for 1-2 hours.
>due to the heavy metals
Explain please?

And just putting my 2 cents in, but while hanging with friends drinking, or playing poker, we always had no problems chainsmoking for hours.
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>>53258868

sounds like a poltard
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>>53267267
That's a bit extreme for a comparison, anon. You sure you don't have autism?
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>>53258261
If he wasn't a stereotypical unhygenic nerd, that'd be hilarious.
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>>53271601
Like these are character flaws intentionally put there? Or byproducts of the players?
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>>53260592
>> One is the little girl, who's a serial killer and necromancer
sounds hot t.b.h
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>>53267276
utter cunts & other utter cunts, interchaeable cunts.
t.Scotsman
>>53267679
English aren't celts: they're anglo-saxons mainly with some celt & norse, whereas Scots arfe celts and some Angles/Norse
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>>53258669
>I don't understand why things are funny
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>>53258868
sounds like a guy who used to play with us, except he played "women" as in always gender ambigous or crossdressing boys.
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>>53266696
>smoke tobacco from a gravity bong
Are you retarded? For what purpose, oxygen deprivation? That's actually gross and this is coming from someone who smoked for many years. You're just going to give yourself throat cancer.
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>>53276221
>utter cunts & other utter cunts, interchaeable cunts
Amen to that

Sad for Brexit?

>>53276153
Sounds edgy to me
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>>53266837
Not that anon, but I think the /thread was in response to the long list of posts quoted. The comments being before it was presumably just because it makes little sense to /thread and then go on.
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>>53258669
He's a cartoon caricature of a nerd, what do you expect?
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>>53258669
Have you never seen the wavy stink lines floating over people who smell really bad?
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>>53267784
>You mean like an autistic?
Yes, that's what dwarves and dwarf players are.
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>>53258868
>unironically playing anything with /pol/

>>53265157
>>53261947
Raw tobacco smells nice. The smoke, especially from cigarettes rather than expensive cigars or pipes (which also smell like shit, it's just that shit isn't as bad as a cigarette), kind of smells like a skunk sprayed on a tire fire full of talcum powder. You don't get that from it because you are used to it, the same way the sweaty jizz-encrusted neckbeard is accustomed to his own body odor, and you even like it because you are conditioned to because you get a small nicotine high every time you smell it, which you do regularly enough for it to be habit-forming. Tobacco smoke is repulsive, even pot smoke is less disgusting and that smells like a cat pissed on an old sponge.
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>>53274643
>>53277669
In my defense, he didn't start the /pol/tardation up until the elections came around. Even worse none of us where even burgers, but he was really fucking obsessed with two-scoop toupee man.

I'm just glad that him and his shitty characters are never coming near me or the rest of the table. Also, no sudden explosions of anger at the end of the game ruining the fun or his buddies "from another game" taking a shit on the game.
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>>53274625
I chain-smoke bongs for hours on end, just because I can do it, it's still awful for me
Not him but I've also heard they're pretty bad for you, don't know if it's anything to do with the metals though
I smoke cigarettes every day at work because it's the one thing that can ease my nerves
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>>53261987
Smoking sucks, but you suck dick.
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>>53277669
>smells like a skunk sprayed on a tire fire full of talcum powder
>smells like a cat pissed on an old sponge

I think something might be wrong with your sense of smell, neither tobacco or pot smoke smell anything like that
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>>53266217
You do realize what board this is, right? Autism is a prequisite
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>>53265157
>Second hand smoke smells awesome
No dude, smokers smell as bad as the guys who don't properly wipe their asses or bathe. I want a 10 foot buffer (at least) between myself, and any of you smelly fuckers.
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>>53261947
>tobacco doesn't smell awesome all the time, but at least it isn't like a fucking physical assault on your sense of smell like a fat guy who hasn't taken a shower and washed out his folds.
This is somethign smokers tell themselves to feel better about a gross hobby. You can't smell it dude, you smoke. You smell awful trust me.
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As someone who doesn't smoke, I think tobacco smells amazing. Even cigarettes, as long as they aren't the cheapest shitty brand, smell pretty good.
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>>53266954
Every character you make is going to have some traits from other fictional characters. It's inevitable.
As long as you're not playing like, Rei Ayanami with the serial numbers filed off you're fine.
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>>53278636
>You can't smell it dude, you smoke. You smell awful trust me.
This.

>>53271918
>Pipe tobacco is way different from cigatette tobacco
Kinda this
Pipe smoke on a person is like cologne.
A touch can actually be nice, imo
Strong waves of the aroma is awful.
(admittedly I don't have the best sense of smell)

>>53278590
>smokers smell as bad as the guys who don't properly wipe their asses or bathe.
Pipe Smoker > Most B.O. > Smokers > Worst B.O. > Worst B.O. Smokers > Worst B.O. Smokers that live with farm animals
I wish I could say I never smelled the last one.
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Cigarette smoke can be smelled over a much greater distance than body odor and detected in much smaller quantities, which is most of the problem. I've smelled much worse things (I think the absolute worst is nitric acid fumes) but rarely at the same distance.
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Joke's on you guys, I've got horrible pollen allergies and I live in Denmark so I spend 95% of my life with a stuffed nose or otherwise unable to smell anything further than 5 feet away tops, and that's if I'm downwind.
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>>53279387
>Not using a bubble blowing smoking pipe
Disgustin
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>>53279877
I actually only ever smoke the rare, small cigar 18th my friend with a humidor.
Like maybe a dozen over the last twenty years.
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My last session, the player to my right just had heinous gas. He had tacobell for lunch or something and was openly farting all night. I endured that for the game.

If anyone at my table was a regular smoker I would excuse myself from the game. That scent gets into your nostrils and lungs and just burns everything up until you can smell nothing else.
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>>53270941
Yes, it does. Get over it ya salty betch.
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>>53258713
I could never play in a game with weird fetish stuff.

Being in a game where a player is the DM's gf and he has characters flirt with her is cringe enough.
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If you are a smoker, you are That Guy.
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>two players playing lawful good
>one plays it as chaotic evil because reasons
>also has "I'm the reason we win combat" mentality
>when he does lawful stuff he does it to fuck over the party by burning bridges with sketchy npc contacts who later fuck over other players in revenge
>party fails some quests because of this and everyone hates us
>he eventually drops the character for a chaotic neutral character
>it acts exactly the same, he just just wanted to claim he was playing his alignment right
>dm's GF also plays LG and constantly shit talks every player and even her DM BF when he isn't in the room
>also also has "I'm the reason we win combat" mentality
>just stands in a corner and shoots arrows while damaging us with aoe's
>goes on about how she's amazing at roleplay despite never roleplaying or interacting with anyone besides her boyfriend DM
>tries to convince the DM to punish players constantly
>we have "meetings" before games where they try to set out rules for player behaviour
>she uses them to talk shit to players
>she threatens to murder my character (because he considered running away in a deadly encounter but instead saved the party which were basically strangers to him) and other characters while still ranting about being an amazing lawful good character
>her characters entire goal is to murder some guy who might have betrayed her
>tries to bring feminism comments into the game, gets angry a cook is female
>dm aggressively railroads us, deprives us of resources in desperate situations, has "good" npcs act like assholes to the party, and flirts with his GF as his npcs to make things extra weird on top of everything
i wonder if you can get PTSD from tabletop games
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>>53271955
Yep. I've seen those. It's a particular conceit of a certain kind of player, and one (in my theory) that is used to disguise a certain amount of social anxiety;
>"I'll make a really specialized character and just silently follow along until I find the moment where I can have my own scene."

Rogues are a notorious choice for this sort of player, particularly ones who think they've mastered some aspect of the game like "stealth" or "intimidation" and think they're going to simply clean-out the local merchants because they've ramped-up their stealth score. It don't work like that, of course, and the hissy-fits follow.
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>>53265367
Smoking is degenerate and you stink quite badly. Not only that, but it causes coughing and eye irritation as well.
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>>53272792
accept my railroad or be punished are pretty miserable games
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>>53280706
Know how everybody likes "Chaos" because it seems all gothic and cool and violent? No. This is what "Chaos" really is; everything is fucked-up and nobody understands what's going on, and the DM is flirting in-character with his gf who is a jerk to everyone at the table, but you can't say anything to her because she made brownies. You're having a lousy time but it's the only game in town. You're ashamed of yourself, but you know you'll be back next week. That's Chaos.
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>>53281023
Any time I posted any stories about that group people told me to quit, so I did. I found different groups luckily where people are nuts. They were honestly the most unstable and cruel people I've met in my life.

Apparently their core group sheds players like a tree does leaves in winter. My only satisfaction is knowing it's guaranteed they've had character death considering how bad they were at basic strategy and with how often I prevented the entire party from dying.
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>>53281150
aren't nuts*

they're fun players and I love them
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>>53280321
Not necessarily.
Some smokers know what they're doing and minimize the odor well.
My father in law literally put a small fan in his den wall so he could smoke at his desk and blow it outside without stinking up the house.
It seems to work well.
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>>53280089

>ill smell the contents of a guys ass but cigarettes make me cry and leave

Literal faggot. I guess like others have said here, you are used to smelling ass on your boyfriend's dick after he pounds you so you don't realize how bad it is.
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>>53281338
Pole smokers are still smokers.
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>>53278884
I just played Casey Jones from TMNT in a game and it was great. You can just steal characters as long as you play them with heart
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>>53258261
Thats... Thats actually very cool and goes very nicely with Dwarf flavour.
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>>53277505

As a dwarf enthousiast and autistic sperglord, I agree.
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I haven't played much tabletop in general but I used to have a friend who was (and still is) an edgy cunt. Would make chaotic characters and rob random NPCs and randomly decide to not help out in dire situations because "that's what my character would do!" despite his character being invested.

At my gaming club there's nothing but bros but some have no sense of what's going on around them. One guy play bloodbowl with a leather dice cup and everytime he rolls he has to slam the fucking thing down on the table. Another guys randomly interrupts games of 40k to tell people about his latest adventures in RPGs despite the players looking visibly deep in thought about what their next move is and they're not even making eye contact.

Pretty tame stuff but annoying regardless. It's hard to stay mad though because they're really nice.
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>>53274164
I think you mean more cancer
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>>53271320
From a glance, I would say no.

But the correct question would be: did the group have fun acting out this scene?
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>>53280706
Well aren't you a self-pitying little attention whore?
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>>53271918
As an avid pipe smoker, wait a minute.... I can confirm that it's used in place of spray-ables BUT I have smoked a couple of real old blends and full taste cigars that were too much for some people to handle. One had a guy retching( Commander's Call from Austin, Texas), so I switched that to my cabin blend and brought out more of a gentle vanilla/almond blend that turned into my go to.

Question for you guys, how many of your PCs smoke, and what are they smoking?
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>>53262109
That is the natural progression you fucking moron, there's a reason spinal surgery doesn't happen in burnt out supermarkets
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>>53286736
>he doesn't perform spinal neurosurgery in burnt out supermarkets
what are you, gay
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>>53265367
Yes, stank of a basement dweller is comparable to the chocking, pervasive, grimey, acrid reek of a smoker. All of males in my family smoke shit from some fucking homegrown cough-your-eyes-out tobacco to mint cigs. All of them smell of tobacco even after they shower, it's a part of their body odor.
So the only thing you have going for you is that's socially acceptable to smoke and it's unacceptable to be a nurgle cultist.
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>>53286426
All of them, but rarely to the same degree, in the same way or for the same reasons that I do.
I like to make characters who're pushed beyond their limits or trying to look like they're cool and in control, both common reasons for people who don't actually like smoking to take it up.
On top of that, cigarettes tell a lot about the smoker - cigarette brands are close enough in taste that few new smokers will be able to pinpoint the differences, so most people choose their brand because they like the design, name, reputation or history. That says a lot about a person, and I try to use my characters' habits just like clothes, gestures or appearance to characterize them, because just like the above, the brand you smoke is a choice and it probably says a fair bit about you.

The M: tA character I'm playing currently is a burnt-out Slovene-American woman, who lived a slightly dreary suburban life until she Awakened and found out that there's a Tradition (the Euthanatos) who literally have the ability to judge the weight of a person's sins and just how much they're worth to the world. This was a bad thing to know for someone who'd always hated "scum" but always felt guilty for not being able to explain why she hated them, and as soon as she got an excuse, she sold her place for money for a closed-carry license, a ballistics vest, an annual gym subscription and a hell of a lot of guns.
She's a nervous smoker (Blue American Spirits) and doesn't particularly like smoking per se - but when you've just left your family and friends behind so you can hunt whatever's waiting for them in the shadows, as well as trying to maintain a brutal bodybuilding routine in the middle of carrying out a variety of illegal missions with a bunch of people who use bizarre magic that walks all over your worldview (she has magic, but she's mostly just strapped) you need a fucking smoke once in a while, if only to look like you're as hardass as you want to look.
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>>53260592
I hope he at least named her Alice
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>>53265367
The smoke itself doesn't smell that bad at first. As a nonsmoker, the smell of a freshly lit cigarette actually smells pretty nice, but that's gone almost immediately.

The smell only gets worse and worse as time passes, until all your left is the god awful stale and musty smell of an ashtray that hasn't been cleaned in ages. That's the smell that sticks with you. Your clothes smell like that. Your car smells like that. Your home smells like that. But worst of all, the space around you smells like that.

I think it's far worse than typical BO, short of smelling like actual shit, and I've known some people who emit pure pit stink across an entire room.
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>>53258261
>>53258507

This is probably the only thing that prevents him from shitting his pants and flinging your minis around the room when he loses
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>>53280282

Ugh, especially when he has a greasy ponytail and goatee and she outweighs him by 100+ pounds
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>>53280089

There is absolutely *nothing* worse than some fat autist who stinks up the entire convention hall with his msg-drenched nacho cheese flavor fried corn meal and then has the nerve to look down and the thin attractive people for all going outside to shit the shit and smoke em if they got em, while he seethes in his clouds of orange dust, unwilling and unable to get up out of his sagging chairs and follow them to provide passive-aggressive commentary and point out how unhealthy they are whilst wheezing and coughing on unchewed corn snacks and cleansing his pallet with the third 2-liter of mountain dew that day
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>>53265367
Next time you have a smoke and head back inside, watch the non smokers in the room closely to see how they react when you get within a few feet of them.

I grew up in a smoking household. Fuck my dad and sister used to smoke in the lounge room and I never noticed the smell. Once I moved away and my body became unaccustomed to the smell, I started really noticing it when I did smell it and it's disgusting. Every time my coworker comes back from a smoke break I try to find an excuse to leave the room
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>>53266720
Because it was in the middle of a CoC game :^)
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>>53280282
Anon, your faggotry is palpable.
The gm shouldn't rp with a player because of what they are outside of game? You are literally pushing a dm SO problem because of your whiny shit.
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>>53288687
>I grew up in a smoking household and I never noticed the smell. Once I moved away and my body became unaccustomed to the smell, I started really noticing it when I did smell it and it's disgusting.
This was me.

Also, I'm one of only two people in my generation that I know of that never smoked cigarettes, and we all grew up with the anti-smoking ads.
Everyone I've ever asked has said they started smoking for a reason that equates to peer pressure.
I just don't fucking understand it.
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>>53288625
>Ah yes, but if I make a strawman comparison of the worst possible version of B.O. and a group of moderate and considerate smokers...!

Nobody cares. You smell, your car smells, your house smells, your cat smells, and the nonsmokers who make conversation with you on your smoke break end up with smelly hair and smelly jackets.

The fact that you desperately stoop to a completely lopsided example just to to save face is frankly embarrassing.
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>>53288625
Do you need a hug or something?
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>>53280869
>>53271955
If something isn't possible to succeed, don't allow them to roll.

If you let them roll for fucking every nonsensical notion they can come up with, you've been giving people the wrong idea, and then it's no surprise they call bullshit when you change the game on them post-roll.
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>>53288790
You have never actually played with a GM and his girlfriend, right?
I will literally bet you real money that you cannot show me a group in which:
1) The girlfriend roleplays with a basic measure of skill, not necessarily being a poet but at least making a fleshed-out character, playing them according to that character and the setting, not being a disruptive edgelord and not being a murderhobo.
2) The girlfriend shows genuine engagement and attachment to the game, and is not hostile, guarded, theatrically creeped out or otherwise antagonistic to the players. She keeps the schedule and comes up with ideas, if not the group's mover and shaker then at least not a problem member.
3) The GM does not in any way, shape or form alter results of dice rolls, manipulate narrative, break setting rules or in another way break from the style of GMing that he uses with the other players in order to give his girlfriend some kind of benefit, including but not limited to "special" companions, magical weapons, miraculous saves and gratuitous supernatural abilities, which usually clash horribly with the setting and game because the girlfriend hasn't read the corebook and just wants her favorite stuff in there.
4) The girlfriend does not in any way, shape or form expect or scheme to receive favorable treatment, in-game or out-of-game, from the GM by virtue of him being her boyfriend (and let me say from experience that the "white-knight manlet and snarling Tumblrina hambeast with no way of interfacing with people except for accusing them of discriminating against her" pair is the norm just like all the posts here say). This includes any kind of whining, guilt-tripping, blaming, sulking, pity offensives or indeed any repeated and/or intentional act that shows an assumption that she'll be treated better.
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Pretty sure a big part of the reason why people are so anti-smoking now, is because the larger the percentage of nonsmokers, the larger becomes the ratio of people who actually realize smoking smells disgusting (and tastes disgusting if you kiss 'em).

Once an overwhelming majority feels that way, they're quite simply going to bully the minority into stopping. That's just how human society works.

It's not always a wonderful dynamic to have, but in this case it's a force for good (although this fact seems to make people a little... overzealous about it sometimes.)
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>That Guy thread turns into a smoker shitfling
I quit about 9 months ago after smoking for 5 years. I went back for a week during that time cause of bad personal shit, so "quit" isn't quite right. We all smell like shit. I smoked because of my own reasons and I tried my best to be polite and stay away from people when smoking, but after revising it and being around others who did smoke, I was totally confused because I thought I was getting sick because of the constant terrible smell in my nose. Turns out it was just me after smoking, and no matter how many showers or times I washed my hands, it wouldn't go away. We all reek.

Now can we please get back to the That Guy stories? I want some validation that my players aren't nearly as bad as they could be.
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>>53288848
I have to keep reminding myself that whenever people go on about smoking, they are referring to cigarettes, not pipes or cigars.
I enjoy my handrolleds, and will continue to in the appropriate environment. Most of the group occasionally smokes in some capacity, and I only do it outside, who the fuck smokes in someone's house? Rude as hell.
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>>53288981
Not that guy you quoted but: I'm _in_ a game with a girlfriend of the DM. She's fine.
Meets requirement 1 (though maybe not at first, she joined as a rookie).
Meets 2 at least as well as anyone else in the group.
Never caught the GM in a 3. No real suspicion of it, excpet her first character (who he reigned in, and I got the job of teamkilling when she wanted to retire it).
4 is hugely vague, but there's never been a problem with her expecting special treatment over and above anyone else at the table. I'm sure they have all sorts of relationship stuff going on I'm not privy to, but nothing made it to table.
We've been playing for about 18 months.
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>>53262090
that guy is black british you idiot

its from a mockumentary called roll safe
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>>53288981
>You have never actually played with a GM and his girlfriend, right?
I'm in one currently, and in the game before this, I WAS the gm with the gf playing, on top of the handful of times I've done so prior.
And no, none of your shit happened because the shit was long hashed out and the girls were there to game, not look pretty.
Except in Matt's game, but she was clearly not interested in playing the damn game, and I called her out as such.
Naw, man, you are the one with the problem.
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>>53258261
I got one.

>DMing for a group of close friends and one friend of a friend I don't know very well
>One friend has already established he's playing a LG paladin of Tyr
>That Guy absolutely insists on playing a necromancer
>tries to raise dead, paladin stops him
>i thought this would end in pvp but That Guy stands down
>later tries to murder paladin in his sleep
>after some out of game discussion i get everyone back on track
>party encounters an elderly lady with slimes infesting her basement
>entire party except necromancer enter basement and engage slimes
>That Guy immediately threatens old lady and demands any valuables
>she cries for help while fleeing
>That Guy kills her
>is later caught and PK'd by rest of party

I felt bad for him, explained that they're supposed to be a party that actually has a meaningful reason to stick together and shares common goals, necromancer really wasn't a good fit.

He went on to ask if he could play a serial killer that kills beautiful people then leaves them in weird artsy poses for the guards to find them. I think he was planning to make this character a Rogue.

We mutually agreed that he wasn't the best fit for our game.
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>>53288625
>There is absolutely *nothing* worse than some sullen autist who stinks up the entire convention hall with his toxin-drenched menthol flavored musk and then has the nerve to look down at the healthy attractive people for all staying inside, out of the weather, shooting the shit while waiting for him to finish his second "smoke break" of the hour, while he seethes in his clinging clouds of cloying smoke, unable to convince others to get up out of their chairs and leave all their stuff behind just to follow them to stand around outside in awful weather and listen to them provide passive-aggressive commentary and point out how unhealthy others are for eating food whilst wheezing and coughing on their own fumes and cleansing his pallet with the third cigarette lit off of the cherry of the last.
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>>53278703

Tobacco itself can smell good. Heavy smokers don't.
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>>53276788
He should have /theaded before his own words, then
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>Less and less people smoke
>Tons of em on campus all looking sad
>Never seen 2 people smoke together on campus

Why do smokers get so passive agressive when you critizise them for, from a health perspective and smell perspective, as fatsos?

Its your choice man, don't act like a child about it.
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>>53290172
Because they need that stimulant, man, their life is hard and they need it, rather than fatties who are just gluttons. /s
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>>53266605
>great granddad smoked from a pipe up until the day he died
>great grandmother held on to it and guarded it like a Jewish dragon with dwarves blood guards gold
>left it to me when she passed away because of how much I reminded her of him
>occcasionally find a quiet place alone and puff tobacco from it when I'm stressed or need a moment to think
>immediately remember nana and how much she meant to me whenever I do it
Fuck you, nigger. Fuck you and everything you stand for. Fuck the horse you rode in on, fuck the line that spawned that horse. There's nothing wrong with smoking a pipe. Yes I mad.
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>>53290447
Smoking from a pipe is better than cigarettes and do indeed smell better, but if that story where true you wouldn't be so triggered. Let me explain how a normal person would react:


>Smoking sometimes smells nice! Especially tobacoo from a pipe
>Hahahha you hipster
>I do it to remember my grandad, and that's my own business

Your reaction:

>Smoking sometimes smells nice! Especially tobacoo from a pipe
>Hahahha you hipster
>NO IM NOT ADDICTED I SWEAR LOOK AT THIS LONG STORY THAT MAKES ZERO SENSE BECAUSE SHE APPARENTLY DIDN*T CARE THAT MUCH FOR IT AND I JUST DO IT TO RELAX NO I MEAN TO REMEMBER I HATE YOU!

See >>53290172 , Why are you guys so insecure? Its really odd.
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>>53290447
Druggie cuck
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>>53290172
Smokers and lawyers are two of the only groups of people you can openly scorn with impunity.
Ten years agp, obese people were on that list too.
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>/tg/
>/tobacco general/
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>>53291915
That's a good one, Gold Star for (You)!
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I have an interesting that guy story
A that guy DM and that guy player who seemed very similar in though and despised eachother.
>Playing pokemon table top
>DM has younger then other players, psychic (not using psychic class or anything, just was it because DMPC) girl DMPC with a tendency to insert retarded memes into the game
>Other player is playing an edgy ninja
>my guy is just a hard on the outside, soft on inside dude with a big stick and a swinub (Minimal earth and water magic)
>Meet dickweed rival, nothing new there
>Has fucking dratini as a starter
>Many people crowding next route cause "legendary"
>Of course DMPC catches it (celebi), much to the distaste of ninja
>Of course it teleports us to a Dialga because "THINGS AND STUFF"
>Big suprise, he also catches that, it also knocked out ninja cause he tried to intimidate it
>Somehow DMPC also got a god damn rotom
>Almost get assasinated at pokemon center cause someone blew up a pokestation
>Catch him, use earth magic shit to hold him down
>Ninja tries to murder him, I also use magic to tie up ninja
>He is rather agitated at this point, thinking that he was in the right
>We call police over, they take assassin away
>DMPC goes to bathhouse, makes us come
>I use my water magic shit to make neat tricks
>Ninja gets jealous nearly knocks me out in an attack
>I survive cause I just threw ice at him till he left
>He goes jumping around buildings
>falls off and dies
>DMPC uses one of his two time legendary pokemon to reverse time and have him not do that
>He then goes over to a tree, writes love note to DMPC and then jumps off in attempt to kill himself
>Of course its a small tree, he doesnt break a bone
>Tries to attack me, fails
And it ended their. We had shittier, less interesting campaigns later
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>>53291915
All things are /tg/ related man.
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>>53270941
>browsing /tg/
>'might' have autism
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>>53261440
>.mil
The fuck did you expect
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>>53261947
It does. When a smoker comes up to a non smoker it is very obvious that they smoke
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>>53264884
>>53265420
>>53270732
>>53286918
>>53288445
>>53278590
That's interesting. I don't smoke and never considered starting, but I've always thought cigarette smoke smelled almost benign compared to the scent of unwashed human. Maybe how it's more artificial and less obviously something that was secreted from someone's body.
Then again the worst smell by far where I live is from pot smokers. I'll walk the long way around sometimes just to avoid passing a couple of houses in my neighbourhood because of kids smoking weed while parked in their driveways.
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>>53268009
Shit, that's more or less the reason I smoke. It happens something like every three or four months, suddenly I need something tohelp me feel alive. So instead of hitting my head against a wall or something I pinch a cig from a friend.
I know it sounds kind of stupid and edgy.
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>>53267359
>the lowest classes have the highest percentages of smokers
Lowest classes have the highest percentage of addictions and cocaine costs more than cigs and beer.
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>>53292905
>I've always thought cigarette smoke smelled almost benign
It varies.
Washing an ashtray can give you an idea.

>Then again the worst smell by far where I live is from pot smokers.
See
>>53279387
>Worst B.O. Smokers
Pot smoke varies too.
Potheads, significantly less so.
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>>53258890
>the player felt guilty so his character handed her a note saying he was sorry for what he did to her.
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>>53268009
>The burn reminds me I'm alive and have people to live for
>>53292926
>I know it sounds kind of stupid and edgy.
It actually makes sense to me, because I've smoked the occasional cigar.
But smoking cigarettes to feel alive is like shooting heroin for pain relief, only less effective in the long term.
It seems stupid because it is stupid.
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>>53292953
Exactly, which is why it's not exclusive (and thus automatically attractive and interesting to a bunch of people.)
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>>53292926
If you're smoking something on the order of like a pack or two a year then it really doesn't matter.
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>>53258890
This reminded me of pic related

>>53293085
Kek
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>>53290559
I'm pissy because everything is now apparently hipster shit. Never said I was addicted nor that I wasn't, and the nostalgia is just a pleasant side affect since my nana happens to be one of the few people on this particular side of the family that I gave a damn about.
>>53290594
*alchoholic cuck
If you're going to insult me, do it right.
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>>53293152
>TFW I live in Scandinavia and all the 20-somethings and 30-somethings get to sincerely enjoy a bunch of funky retro shit and grow out their beards without being shat on by holier-than-thou wankers, simply because we were never actually plagued with the fundamentally vain, self-absorbed, and ironic/postmodern/insincere hipster plague that set everyone out on this witch hunt of tribalist judgement-by-association to begin with.

Saved by the Jantelov again.
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>>53293152
>I'm pissed because someone called me a hipster on a Japanese basket-weaving forum

So not only a druggie, one with skin like paper?
Nah you are right, you sound like the manly guy who can pull of a pipe and not some homosexual hipster who pretends its a dick.
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>>53265367
It largely depends on the brand and how often the person smokes. But it's never a pleasant smell to most nonsmokers.

At best it's not that strong and you stop noticing it after an hour or some with them. That was most cases when I went to hang out with my Dad. But when I came home my sister and mom would complain that I smelled awful.

Worst case, such as when my Dad was smoking a lot that day or it had been awhile since I'd seen him, it's really terrible.

If I absolutely had to I'd prefer be around a smoker than a person with BO, but it's only a marginal improvement.
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ITT: smokers butthurt when they find out that everyone hates being around them
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>>53294359
This topic is actually blowing my mind, because I'm not a smoker myself but have hung around them, and I never thought it was that bad. Not a GOOD smell, but not this terrible ass stench people claim, and I'd sure as hell rather hang around smokers than whatever unwashed hambeast That Guy.

I always thought the people who hated second-hand smoke that much to rant about it and say it's making them choke instantly and smells like literal shit were just the same crying infant hippies who refuse to eat meat and hate things that trigger them or whatever, but this topic is starting to make me wonder.
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>>53289098
What?
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>>53295011
>I always thought the people who hated second-hand smoke that much to rant about it and say it's making them choke instantly and smells like literal shit were just the same crying infant hippies who refuse to eat meat and hate things that trigger them or whatever
I can see that if you've never really had to deal with concentrated smoke or a chain smoker.
But some really are that bad.

A smoker who respects others and only ever smokes outside might not be that bad.
But those that marinate themselves in the gray haze tend to be pretty awful.
Once at work, the front door reeked of smoke and it turned out there was an ashridden empty pack in the trash nearby inside that someone had been using to store half used smokes.
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>>53295648
Filename.
Took me a minute too.
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>>53293151
I don't get it, what's happening in the comic is he gonna kill the kid?
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>>53258261
I knew a guy who had every single guardsman in his IG army numbered. He would record which numbers were killed in each game, and in a book he had recorded the names of each soldier associated with each number. Every time one of them died in play, he would record them as KIA and replace the name with a new one for the next game. His list of dead Guardsmen was huge, it was three black notebooks back in 2008, I can't imagine how many it must be now.

He always used to joke that one day he would make a war memorial terrain piece with all of the names inscribed on it. I'd like to see that shit because it would take fucking forever.
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>>53295786
Not a note from a kid.
In a game set in the Marvel universe, the PCs stumbled upon a cache of The Punisher's guns and grenades.
So the PCs looted it against the warnings of one PC who, unbeknownst to the others, left him basically that note.
He used the note to track them down and kill some of them.
I modded that pic for the thread.
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>playing for the first time Imperial Assault
>Lose hard every mission, even the tutorial
>GM hides enemy health from us, rolls from us, even the rules
>Swear to god he comes up with new stuff to makes us lose
>Months later in a different group they play Imperial Assault
>Me "Fuck no, that game is ultra hard"
>They "The fuck? it's pretty easy, believe us"
>Play
>Game is completely different from what I played before, billion times easier
The fist GM was literally cheating super hard and lying through his teeth, I confronted him later and the fucker even wanted to have the last word saying HIS manual said all of that and if other people played differently it wasnt his fault as he was following HIS manual, that if we wanted to blame someone blame the company for selling him a defective game. Also that fucker made me hate 5e due similar reasons, I gave it a shot with a different group and it also turns out the son of a bitch wasn't using the actual rules.
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>>53296715
Drop a turd on his doormat. He deserves it.
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>>53296651
Understood
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>>53261947
Cigarette smoke smells disgusting, no exceptions. Cigars and pipes can be downright pleasant smelling at times, but they, too, can stink up a room. Be considerate and refrain from smoking around others without their express consent. It's not a moral imperative to do so, but it is polite. Some people can tolerate the smell better than others.
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>>53277972
Hookah smoke can create small amounts of ammonia in your lungs depending on how it's treated.
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>>53266132
Old book smell is a good thing, though. It always makes me feel incredibly relaxed. Given that OP isn't being complimentary, it stands to reason that he isn't talking about the book smell (good) but the other player's odor (bad).
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I dunno if it's that guy or not, but I remember in a game I was in, I ended up taking a very theoretical combination of abilities that ended up working extremely well, focusing mostly on crowd control with some other capabilities to round me out. I meshed well with the group's primary face to face dude who was strong like me, but specialized in beating people down with a smattering of crowd control.
A late comer looks at us, my pc which is fairly, if unconventionally optimized (I was amazed it turned out so strong), the other dude who was not optimized, but had powerful fundamentals, and decided he needed to one up the both of us.
What that guy didn't know was that the both of us long time players weren't pushing things full tilt, we played fairly conservatively with our abilities and tried to compliment each other, and that guy completely tweaked the feel of the game out of whack as the gm attempted to accommodate for power level that hadn't been pushed for.
It basically killed the game for everyone else, and I'm still salty about it.
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>>53261947
>smoker
>doesn't know how stinky he is
I would say kys but you already are. I'll vote to raise the sin tax on your cancer sticks.
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>>53265157
you're one deluded sap if you actually for one second believe what you just posted
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>>53292263
>playing Pokémon game
>wizards and killer ninja assassins and shit fighting

God PTA/U is cringy garbage. Even the non-That Guy stories always make it sound awful.
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>>53265157
The fatass slob can't tell he smells so bad either, and would be saying the same fucking thing. You are fucking ACCLIMATED to the stench, it's the same reason people that grew up with it notice it less. It's also why crazy cat ladies can't tell their house reeks of cat piss all the time.
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>>53297907
I call this the Monkey House effect.
Form when you first enter the Monkey House at the zoo, you get hit with a wave of stench, but after several minutes you don't notice it unless you specifically focus on it.
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>>53258810
THAT is what disgusts you about the story, not the "rape slave" part?
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>>53297967
That's fairly standard magical realm shenanigans, scat is a literal health hazard.
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>>53272298
You're right, the basement dweller isn't dying and exuding a miasma of death like he's real fucking Nito
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If "THAT guy" finds a group that doesn't view his quirks as a hindrance, is he still "THAT guy"?

Basically, is thatguyness an inherent trait, or is it circumstantial?

I only ask because I'm worried I might be That Guy
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>>53298218
Describe your worries and we shall judge
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>>53298218
>the spoilers
If you are worried, ask your group 1v1. A That Guy never realises they are, by and large.
>is thatguyness an inherent trait, or is it circumstantial?
Both.
It is as often a misunderstanding of goals and intent as it is selfishness and "my fun is the fun that matters".
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>>53298218
Well, it is circumstantial.
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>>53298249
Any time there's any ambiguity about a rule that another player is unaware of, I usually say something like "I think that's against the rules", bust out the rulebook, read the full section for context, then break down the specific rule in question logically, interpreting the semantics 100% literally. I'm usually right, so it usually results in a player getting slightly fucked, or stopped from doing something they may have really wanted to do.

I thought exploring the rules like that would be helpful for learning the system, and that avoiding rulebreaking moves is a desirable thing overall (especially when they're against the players, which "conveniently" seems to happen less often), but I've seen a fair few posts on this board where people complain about this type of behavior.
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>>53298353
Anon, it is the GM's right, prerogative, and duty to adjudicate rules, NOT YOURS.
People complain about that behavior because it is the GM's job, and if you want to tell people rules so much, then run the game. Until then, you can say something, but unless the GM gives you the go ahead, you speak your piece, and let it lie, the GM should take it from there.
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>>53298353
The question here is whether or not
>your DM appreciates the help
>your group is in favor of generally playing by the rules, whatever they may be
>if the one corrected is That Guy
See, i regularly do this, almost always for one specific player, but the DM wants me to call him out on shit, and hes That Guy anyway.
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>>53258810
I dunno about you, mate, but I find the pee fetish less upsetting than the crippling.
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>>53298353
Like the others said, you're not necessarily That Guy.
You are a Rules Lawyer.
Which *can* be annoying as fuck and *can* be a form of That Guy.
Listen to the others.
If you go along with the GM and follow their lead rather than correct them, you might be fine.

Remember also that sometimes nobody is asking for the correct rules, they're asking how to do this cool idea they have.
If the halfling want's to save the day by knocking a guard over a railing and rolls well, citing the rule that says he's too short to do it isn't helping anybody have fun.
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>>53298407
>>53298708
I forgot to say I'm primarily a wargame fag but that's still pretty solid advice regardless. Part of me would rather not destroy a guy's fun by pointing out "hey you can't do this, you forgot about this thing that will screw you over, now screw yourself over", but an even bigger part of me finds it very suspicious that 9 out of 10 times someone seems to forget about a rule or unit bonus/penalty, it's in their favor. If I was confident they had actually forgot I'd probably chill, but if they're lying to get a good outcome, I'd rather them not think they got away with it, like >>53298430
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>>53298976
When GMing, I'm a fan of the "When in doubt, roll and shout!" approach. Rules-lawyering can be fun sometimes, but often, adjudicating the RAW/RAI outcome of some complicated scenario would cause more aggravation than fun. When this occurs, I make up an arbitrary ruling, making it clear that this applies FOR THIS ONE INSTANCE ONLY and does not necessarily set any precedent. When the scene is over, I look up all the official rules and offer a more lasting resolution if necessary.

I try to give players the benefit of the doubt in these situations- but if I find that someone is CONSISTENTLY "misunderstanding" rules in their own favour, I politely suggest that they read the book before showing up next week.
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>>53295011
It really depends. I don't mind the smell of second hand smoking however the smell of old smokes is abhorrent. And some heavy smokers have a really awful body odor. My gf doesn't really mind the smell of old smokes but can't stand second hand smoking.
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>>53258868
Was it a player that went by whitemageofdoom?
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>>53267588
You know its polish when every punctuation ist Kurwa
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>>53290918
Heh you can still mock fat people and you can even get good boy points for that.
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>go to local GW to relax and paint some models
>about an hour in 4 short fat people waddle into the store
>they dont say anything to anyone
>they just start talking to each other and set up for a game on the table literally right next to where im sitting despite every other table in the store being open
>start talking obnoxiously loud and borderline bumping into me
>saying the most cringy things about 40k (specifically space wolves)
>at one point I hear "are you sure a drop pod is an assault vehicle?"
>the other responds "YES IT IS I KNOW UGH!"
>as I leave I can clearly see about 2000 points on each side of almost fully unpainted models

maybe im being a bit harsh but I experience the same thing every time I go into one of those stores
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>>53288981
I once gave my gf a hippogriff mount. For no reason. I'd do it for a friend or stranger, too, if they rescued the damn thing. Otherwise, excellent post & husband & wives can be worse, a lot worse!

>Live long, Red Wing. Tharizdun will let her go eventually.
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>>53289035
How did you quit, pure will power? Sorry for OT but I'm trying really hard to quit.
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>>53292243
Will you please stop posting homosexual pictures, thanks
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>>53298353
Have you read some or ANY of the stories posted here? You're not even close, friendo. A good rules lawyer can be invaluable as they know how to get the most bang for your buck during charop. You just don't take it too far and don't bicker over it. If you get overruled anyway, don't get salty at all. Other than that, you're golden.
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>>53288981
My old group was basically all couples. I'd known the GM for years and his girlfriend even longer. She was a great player and he was a great DM.

When I DMed a group with my girlfriend in it, I found I ended up doing that thing where you wonder if you're coming down too harsh on them instead, precisely because you don't want to give them special treatment. It didn't help she turned into a bit of a retard when it came to the table.
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>tfw i feel like i might end up in one of these threads one day
>tfw might have been mentioned in these threads once
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I relish being a ""good"" DM but ever am I tempted to go down the darkest paths when faced with player stupidity. I can hand wave a ton of shit but eventually you're going to have to roll a die for something, Mr. Tough optimizer guy.
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>>53301259
>I relish being a ""good"" DM but ever am I tempted to go down the darkest paths when faced with player stupidity.
I'm with you here, man.

>I can hand wave a ton of shit but eventually you're going to have to roll a die for something, Mr. Tough optimizer guy.
But you lost me completely here.

>>53300041
Feeling like you might have been a That Guy in the past?
I understand.
We all started somewhere.
Feeling like you're going to be a That Guy in the future?
pic related
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>>53296715
>don't know the rules
>play
I cannot believe someone would be so stupid, sorry
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Is there a way to be a guy playing a female character and also not being a shit?
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>edh
>mtgo
>faggot leaves cause his timmy card got countered or removed
or
>the reversed
>control guy get flustered when his Timmy combo gets countered/removed while he has done that shit all game
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>>53302377
More like Doesn't let you read the manual
We didn't have motives to mistrust him so we accepted as true his explanation of the rules, he """"""""""""""read"""""""""""" them before playing and when in doubt he reached the manual and """"""""""""""read"""""""""""" them again, of course it was all lies as nothing worked as he said and everything was designed to make us never win and lose hard, there was also the campaign manual for when we felt like there was some contradictions and then he applied the "in case of contradiction I use whatever I feel like", of course I also discovered such contradictions never existed and was only him not able to keep track of his own bullshit.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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