Genders playing other genders

Everyone must be amorphous silicate blobs with no perceivable sex or gender because I cannot trust any other adult human not to make playing a dude/chick weird.

>>53254618
It's just fine. As a trisexual quasigendered trans-Atlantic helicopter, the most fun I have is when I play males.

Do you play a male or female in videogames /tg/? Why?

I've never been in a group who had a problem with it. I still find it weird how bent out of shape /tg/ gets over crossplay.

>>53254618
By all logic it should be ok since it's what's expected from the GM all the time. Usually it's fine in a good group.

However /tg/ as a whole is completely dysfunctional, nihilistic, and cynical to the extreme so we're going to be arguing about it for the rest of this thread because muh autism, muh ERP, muh teegee.

In other news, Pathfinder is shit, but still playable, 5e is rapidly becoming the most popular edition of D&D, Female Space Marines are a thing now, and 8th edition is going to be decent. Oh, and your waifu is Shit.

Depends on the person.

If a guy is playing a chick realistically and not putting too much emphasis on being the girl, it's cool. But if they're getting magical realmy and making their character a scantily-clad bimbo who exists for them to get off to... I don't really fuck with people who do that.

>>53254618
>Is it okay?
Doesn't matter
>Why or why not?
Because I'm not some sperglord who will have a panic attack when some neckbeard decides he wants to play an elven slut
Execution is what matters most

>>53254618
Yes.

Because tabletop both a game and a form of collaborative storytelling, and as such you can tell the story of any kind of character you want.

Any issues caused by playing any sort of character is a problem with the individual player, not the character they're playing.

The answer to this question will never change, no matter how many times it gets asked.

>>53254656
I love amorphous blobs! 10/10, would RP. Maybe we can have some gelatinous cubes or something for minor diversity.

>>53254839
>Maybe we can have some gelatinous cubes or something for minor diversity.
Get the fuck out. Get the FUCK out.

>>53254873
Fine. What about puddings?

>>53254939
Fucking DEGENERATE!!!

>>53254618
Usually not a problem if the player has something in mind before making a character.

A "Female barbarian who wears the pelts of animals she's hunted, and solves her problems by smashing heads together" is a lot better than "A female rogue with a crop top"

>>53254939
>puddings
>>>/tumblr/

>>53254656
>>53254839
>>53254873
>>53254939
>>53254957

I want to play a ferrofluid amalgam! I know it's third party but it's totally balanced!

>>53254939
You see this salt? YOU SEE THIS FUCKING SHAKER?

>>53254993
Quit Powergaming and create a real character.

>>53254678
male
do what comes natural

>>53254957
>>53254987
>>53255006
...Jellies?

>>53254618
Of course it's fine. A lot of people just suck at it.

>>53254678
1) Whoever has the better VA (Femshep bestshep)
2) Whoever is hotter

>>53255060
Quit shoving your pedophilia fetish or we'll report you

>>53255053
I agree. That way you can make them as naughty as possible.

>>53255060
In all honesty I think you ought to eat the bullet my man.

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>>53254618
>Play Sci-Fi campaign.
>One of the fish alien races has 4 genders.
>Just choose male cause it's easiest.

>>53254678
Female, because it briefly makes my dysphoria go away.

>>53255083
>>53255126
Not even oozes?

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>>53255077
>Mass Effect

>>53254717
>finding it weird that /tg/ gets bent out of shape over anything

Welcome and enjoy your stay.

>>53255147
...What texture?

>>53255147
You're kidding, right?

If you're not kidding, just kill yourself already.

>>53255148
>DAE think Mass ERECT is le suck? XD

Well meme'd

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>>53254618
It is A-okay.
Because why the hell not.

>>53255220
Mass Effect 1 was a decent enough game. That's it.

>>53255192
Gray ooze, so simultaneously stony and slimey.

>>53255196
I'm running out of potentially slime options, unless I tap into overpowered things like aspects of Ghaunadaur or not-quite-slimes like water weirds.

>>53255253
It's ok to have shit taste, anon, but you should probably keep it to yourself.

I often play females if only because everyone else is playing males.
My females might as well be men though because I like playing tough, gritty, unappealing women.

>>53255327
No, really. ME2 and ME3 have some good moments but the story takes almost a 180 from the second game (the intro to the second game is *brutal* if you were a major fan of the first, the second game literally destroys almost everything from the first game) and the third is just a huge unsatisfying mess with the occasional speech you can get behind.

They gave up almost everything interesting for chest-high walls, badly scripted drama and an insufferably edgy deviantart character. FemShep IS the best VA though, sure.

>>53254754
>Female Space Marines are a thing now
Except they aren't, and that rumor is entirely a /tg/ troll construct.

>>53255426
>t. Butthurt Imperial Lorefag.

>>53254618
It's okay, there's no reason for it not to be. Sex and sexuality in the game is a seperate issue.

>>53254618
It is not OK.
The player should be playing a character.
If all the player does is be a gender, they're not roleplaying. Or really playing at all, or being a functional human.
Likewise, if there's nothing more to the character than their gender, the player is failing to do basic roleplay.

>>53255144
Go see a professional.

>>53256404

I feel like that should just be a general rule. If the most important thing about a character is their gender, sexuality, ethnicity or any of that bullshit, they're a bad fucking character.

And I say that as a lefty. I like the idea of diverse characters, the problem is how many morons try to pander by making shitty fucking characters and just palette swapping them as if that fucking helps. And then you get the legions of people acting like they're amazing just because they're 'supporting the cause'.

>>53256573
It is a general rule at my table.
If you can't explain how your character's [sexuality/strange third gender/bizarre parentage/non-core race/mental condition/foreign ethnicity/background traits] shapes them and matters in under a minute, then it's vetoed.

An exception is given if we're doing chargen, in which case you have a lot more time (but I'll be expecting a good answer if I already asked the question before). Rushed characters are trash characters, after all.

>>53257015

Not quite what I meant?

I more focus on what makes them an interesting character first and foremost. Race/gender/sexuality are all secondary, and I don't really mind what they are as long as it makes sense in context, it doesn't have to be particularly significant or justified.

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>>53254618

Imagine all of the following being said by a male in YOUR group who you actually know:

>Ok I hide the items in my BOOBS HAHAAHAHA
>LOL ok I seduce the monster because I'm hawt loololol
>TEEHEE my 5'4", 110lb character can kill any man because she is that deadly lollllool
>I flirt with the blacksmith to get a better price. Silly boyz

>>53257303

The obvious solution- Don't play with shitty people. The characters gender is entirely irrelevant.

>>53254618
[MAN here] BTW I love role play homosexual men who are bad ass and will rip off the head of any enemy, turn into a fiery crisp, and then proceed hate fuck whatever character I fancy at the moment. I am the lumberjack homosexual, what fuck are you are the pussy faggot?

>>53257252
Eh. You can, in theory, make a character where their race is a defining trait or leads to the defining trait.
"Half-orc raised in human lands faces persecution when orc horde invades, seeks to prove his humanity by fighting orcs" is a simple but solid foundation.
"Minor noble who fled his father because he's gay and didn't want to have to hide it or marry that strumpet" is workable.

The issue is when the trait is just sorta there.
"Half-drow is wily trickster thief, stabs people and looks dashing" isn't a terrible concept (it's not good, but it's not actively bad), but the "half-drow" part has jackshit purpose to exist.
"Normal character, but gay" is, well, gay for no apparent narrative reason. That's badwrong, though I won't really bitch about it (or crossplaying) if the player's not being a jackass about "DUDE MY FAG SUCKS HIS COCK".

We've got a simple rule to keep this out: you can't crossplay in the game unless you crossplay at the table.

>>53257380
Done. Does my IRL summer dress have to match my summer dress in the game?

>>53257376

Neither of the latter really bother me? Different styles, I suppose.

And with the former, I agree to an extent, but I'd argue the focus is the context and the storytelling, not just the race.

>>53254618
>Is it okay?

I don't see why it wouldn't be.

>Why or why not?

Why wouldn't it be?

>>53254678
Female. If I gotta stare at an ass for 20+ hours, it might as well be one that I find attractive.

>>53257376
>"Normal character, but gay" is, well, gay for no apparent narrative reason.

There needs to be a reason? Why?

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>>53254618

I have a male player who's character is a female twi-lek. He brings a lot of well timed humor and a lot of cheek to the sessions.

play whatever character you want, that's the beauty of rpgs

>>53254678
Whichever fits the story better, or>>53255077

If I am going into a new game blind I pick a male.

>>53254618
If there is a reason for it beyond waifu/fetish shit then sure, depends on the player mostly. In my expirence unless the player goes out of their way to constantly remind everyone, most people forget that the player is playing the opposite gender.

>>53254618
S'okay. As long as they're well-crafted and well-played, I don't even care if you've based them on your personal appeals. I get more guys playing bisexual/lesbian women. I get more girls playing gay men. As long as they're not derailing the story for their own purposes, they can play whatever they like. I wish they'd surprise me a bit more, but eh. None of them has ever been blatantly offensive in what they play.
Heck, the token bisexual, gender-ambiguous changeling I had in my previous campaign was played by the token straight guy player (all the others were some shade of LGBT).

People are here to play something different. Seems a bit dumb to restrict them to their own gender while making a character. But then again, I've never been face to face with the magical realm boogieman.

>play female for first time with regular group
>awkward as fuck autistic-sperg tier atmosphere while I try to roleplay as the female while everyone else is silent
Never again

>>53259673
So, you've got a bad group? Sorry to hear that.

>>53258148
>I've never been face to face with the magical realm boogieman.
That's kind of part of why it is a boogieman.

>>53254678
I tend female. Somehow I think the sexual aspect ties me more to the character.

>>53257526
Homosexuality is, due to how people weight character traits, very defining.
In the example I gave with the noble, a bunch of people would internalize that character as "Gay noble", instead of "runaway noble" or "favors love over status".
As a result, if the homosexuality of a character isn't narratively significant, it causes a sort of disconnect. "Hey, why's the gay guy not doing gay things?" I'll agree that "and he's gay" is realistic, but it's not good storytelling.

>>53254618
Gender is a spook, so do whatever.

>>53254678
Male if it's a self-insert thing like Mass effect.

Whatever fits the concept best if it's something like Dark Souls.

>>53259673
>being so beta you even get nervous around imaginary women

>>53260564
More like nervous around grown ass men pretending to be teenage girl elves

>>53254618
Go deeper like I did, play your gender that then gets genderbent and has to play another gender.
>>53260313
But do they have child-bearing hips anon?

>>53260121
>if the homosexuality of a character isn't narratively significant, it causes a sort of disconnect. "Hey, why's the gay guy not doing gay things?"
That's a shitty rule for a shitty group anon. If you have to act like a living stereotype or be dramatically impacted for a minor choice like gender or sexuality then why even bother? It won't be fun roleplaying.

>>53257303
I have never had any player do that
Your friends are shit and so are you.

>>53260121
>but it's not good storytelling.

I disagree. I think things are better when sexuality is treated as significantly as hair or eye color.

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>>53257376
>This character of mine is gay
>WHY AREN'T YOU SUCKING COCKS ALL THE TIME ? THAT'S WRONG !
>what ?
>THAT'S WRONG AS WELL IF YOU SUCK THEM TOO, BTW

>>53254618
I'm usually OK with girls playing male characters, but not with guys playing female ones.
Though recently my best friend decided to run a WFRP 2e game, and during chargen we decided it would a good idea to roll for everything, including for character's sex. We were pretty drunk at the time, so it seemed like a good idea for the moment.
So I ended up with playing 18 year old female Apprentice Wizard. At first I was rather uncomfortable, but soon I started to enjoy RPing her.

I'm a chick and sometimes (only sometimes) I play a dude because it fits the character concept better.
I played with dudes who played female characters well, but I also played with dudes who got all magical realm when playing a female character.
It reaaaally depends on the person I think

>>53254817
I'm not OP but I agree with the execution part. We have a pretty even split in my gaming group between male and female players. What I noticed is when our ladies play dudes they actually try and play dudes and usually pull it off. When the one guy who sometimes plays chicks plays a chick he always just plays a dude with tits and it irritates and confuses me. I never understood his facsination with playing every chick like a barbarian half orc stereotype. I would probably feel a lot better about it if he did try to play it like an elven slut.

>>53260721
It helps to start playing around grown ass men pretending to be teenage boy elves.

I dont think I've seen more than maybe 1 instance of crossplaying not being done creepily.

>>53254678
Poor lil jamal, just to spite some people

>>53261264
This.

>>53267051
Whose fault is it that the people you play with are shit.

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>>53254656
>AM as a dm

>>53254678
male because i realize i'm a sperglord and playing a woman would end badly

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yah I always though he was female.

>>53254618
I don't think there is an explicit problem with it, but every guy playing a girl that I've ran for have been obnoxious people. So in my mind there's some correlation to playing a girl as a guy and being a shitty player. The WORST is when it's clearly just they play her like some slut and try and make you do really awkward RP with them.

I haven't had any problems with girls playing guys yet

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>>53254668
2015 please leave

>>53265827
>but soon I started to enjoy RPing her.
>RPing her
uh

My rule of thumbs from a few years of experiencing a diverse player base is:

Straight dude: can only play a dude
Straight girl: can play either
Gay dude: can play either
Lesbian: can play either

This is for randoms. If you know the people none of it matters.

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>>53254618
>Woman playing a man
This is always fine.

>Man playing a woman
This is fine unless there are actual women in the group. But then again, why would you want to play with women?

>>53270610
Women tend to play better male characters than dudes.

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>>53270745
>Women tend to play better male characters than dudes.

>>53270851
It's been completely true IME. I would throw over my existing group for an all-women one in an instant. Generally 1 female player can be a problem because a ton of folks in RPGs are oversexed lonely nerds, but from 2+ you only get better groups. Again IME but women tend to engage way more with the character and plot.

>>53254618
I can insert all my fetishes into my girl characters and because they're so fringe and subtle no one will notice

>>53271144
>thinking I don't notice they all have silver-framed glasses and drink heavily

>>53270002
By "can play" do you mean "has a high likelihood of portraying the character effectively" or "these are my rules at the table"?

>>53271059
Okay dude we believe that you're not just another one of those "oversexed lonely nerds" misplacing positive attributes on women because you're thirsty as fuck and that biases you into thinking the women are better than they really are.

>>53271293
I mean, I qualified it IME. I fully accept your experiences may be different.

>>53254678
Tanks are female
Caster type healers are female
Melee dps, melee heals, and anything that uses Int as a primary stat is male

>>53271248
Rules for randoms, not for established players. Likelihood is implicit.

>>53254618
If you actually play tabletop it's okay.
If you are one of those shits who complains about everything but never actually plays, it's a deadly sin, like everything else.

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>>53254678
Female unless I can make a girly boy.

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>>53254618
Its probably fine though be careful not to lame up your game by falling into lame male or female stereotypes

>>53254678
Gopniks.

>>53273347
Male or female gopniks?

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>Play a female character for the first time
>Not some bimbo or blatant fetish bait
>Guy who played a literal healslut last campaign starts giving me shit for it

>>53273619
his boypussy is threatened obv

>>53254678
I flip a coin

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>>53254618
Uh sure, it's fine.
but I can't, that's my fetish and it's way too distracting
I've tried several times, I can't not make it weird so I avoid it like the fucking plague.

>>53254618
It's fine, as long as nobody's being a jackass about it.

Think about it this way: even if none of the players at the table are doing it, the GM more or less has to.

>>53256566

Those are useless, all they offer is surgery.

>>53273379
Gopnik is a male only class, the female "gopnik" is simply called kurwa.

>>53254678
1. Whichever has the better looking armor
2. Whichever has better animations
3. Whichever has better voice acting
4. Whichever fits the character concept better
Pretty simple priority list imo

>>53254668
The attack helicopter thing is a pretty old meme, chummer.

>>53254678
Usually a female character unless I'm playing multiplayer with guy friends who'd probably think it weird. Or it's a plot that involves romance.

I'd probably prefer to play a female character in TTRPGs as well but there ain't much point since I suck at roleplaying. Also same issue with guy friends.

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>plays a game of pretend
>playing as something else is not ok

>>53257015

That sounds boring. So.. nobody can be non-straight or a different skin colour or a different gender unless they present some thesis on why it matters? The point point the guy you replied to was trying to make is it shouldn't matter that much.

I find girls can roleplay both pretty well but when guys try to roleplay as girls they just end up being a parody

>>53261136

This is so true. And really, who can say if it'll be relevant?

My friend's character is a guy, and he's bi. It rarely matters or comes up except he once hit on my character, also a guy, who is straight. My character was a little awkward but made it pretty clear he's just into ladies. However, they're still really good friends now and are both down with what most dudes would consider gay shit (sleeping in same bed, kind of snuggling... my character is a weird guy and doesn't realise it's weird and is lonely/has no other friends, and obviously the bi slutty bard is down) so over time the bi character winds up with a sort of crush/lovey thing towards my straight character. Who, obviously, will never reciprocate those feelings. He'll never be sexually or romantically attracted to the guy, though he's fine with being friends and being too intimate. idk, it sort of resulted in an unrequited love thing that may not have come up otherwise. Without the one character's sexuality being open to guys they end up as good friends which is fine too. IDK, I sort of like where our characters are atm.

spoilers- we're both girls and thus aren't squicked out by the gay shit, I guess.

>>53254678
Female
I like watching them get hurt

>>53282943
This.

>>53282943
I've had enough girls use male pcs as a means to be dickwads and call it roleplaying for me to feel similar, but it usually ended up telling me something about them. Guys are usually the same way.
As a long time GM, playing a female for me is a part of the gig, so I never really saw the big problem. I, in general, rp women a little softer, a little less brash but with a lot of heart and something to prove to themselves.
>>53282973
>we're both girls and thus aren't squicked out by the gay shit, I guess.
I wager it depends on your relationship. In my game, the gm and I are bros, and my (male) pc decided to hit a local brothel for some poon whilst the group was trawling the scummy side of town. He and I proceeded to rp out some casual flirting replete with sidelong glances, sly innuendo, tittering and a side of handholding.
I proceeded to get her as a local contact after a few visits. I know for a fact that half the guys at the table would have blanched at such roleplay, but neither of us batted an eye. I guess I don't really get why people squick out so fast when it comes to romance in a game, it's just roleplaying, it doesn't really inform on your personal tastes.

>>53254618
>not wanting to be the little girl

>>53254678
Male.

Because I don't have mommy issues.

>>53271293
>we
Don't drag the rest of us into your shit, anon.

>>53274000
Trips confirm best post.
Anyone who doesn't roll for their gender is a pansy-ass girly boy, regardless of what they play

In my last session of Dark Heresy, we ended up visiting a brothel to (maybe) kill the Madame for reasons I don't remember. She and her girls are probably Slannesh worshipers.

One of the party members who fancies himself a playboy decides to take one for a ride.

A couple of willpower rolls later, he's on his back getting pegged with his legs wrapped around the woman's hips like a bitch.

And he liked it.

>>53284420
>>53284247 here, it was DH that I was trawling brothels.
What is it about DH and whores?

>>53257380
Be careful what you wish for.

Do dwarf players have to have beard? Is playing female really that much more difficult than playing someone who has lived two hundred years and is able to see another five? Or someone, who can return dead to life?

>>53254618
I mean sure, it's hardly the most farfetched thing you could be roleplaying. Only thing that bothers me is when a guy picks female then plays his character as a dude but with boobs, maybe going for like one or two seductions of convenience. If you're gonna insist on being a chick I would appreciate if you at least tried a shitty falsetto once or twice. Somehow I rarely have the same problem when women at the table try men they're so much more willing to really macho it up.

Heck I do shit voices for all my NPCs I'd appreciate a little effort from the lads watching me make a fool of myself.

>>53284746
>a guy picks female then plays his character as a dude but with boobs, maybe going for like one or two seductions of convenience
Anon, you are ascribing some immutable quality to females that clearly influences and warps everything they do when it's more about how the world reacts to them that makes a difference.
>I rarely have the same problem when women at the table try men they're so much more willing to really macho it up
And now you are claiming stereotypes, especially the bullshit nonsense most men are taught their entire lives to rein in and temper to something useful, is good rp.
I don't think we'll ever agree on this one.

playing anything but little (brown) girl is not okay

>>53254618
You actually say He-man isnt your ideal macho man?