Age of Sigmar General /aosg/

>>53254272
Flesheaters will be played by Ben Johnsonof GW versus Bottle, creator of Hinterlands

Age of Sigmar Skirmish Pre-Orders May 20th, Release May 27
Age of Sigmar Skirmish Rulebook £ 6.00
New rules small-scale gaming

Khorne Bloodbound Frenzied Goretribe £ 40.00
Skirmish Team

Flesh Eater Court Nightfeast Hunters £ 40.00
Skirmish Team

Ironjawz Weirdnob Warband £ 40.00
Skirmish Team

Stormcast Eternal Hammerstrike Brethren £ 40.00
Skirmish Team


Scenery: Pre-Orders May 20th, Released June 3rd
Battle Mat: Soulblight Necropolis £ 50.00
Citadel Scenery-Battle Mat with grave yard print

Sigmarite Mausoleum £ 50.00
Citadel Scenery- 2x Garden of Morr set

Khorne:
5 Blood Warriors
5 Wrathmongers
1 Aspiring Deathbringer

Stormcast:
3 Liberators
2 Retributors
3 Prosecutors
1 Knight-Questor

Ghouls:
20 Ghouls
3 Horrors

Ironjawz:
5 Ardboyz
5 Brutes
1 Wierdnob Shaman

>>53254272
Oi M8! what about them skele bois we saw a bit ago?

>>53254516
That's for Shadespire, different game.

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>>53254516
pic related

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>>53254378
Post vampires!

The Midnight acristocracy lives on!

>>53254516
You mean the dude with the cape and the spear with the kick ass pose? Those were for one of the AoS board games. Silver Tower or the other one, I believe.

>>53254272
how can i read the battalions for the slaves to darkness? the seem to only be in the "grand alliance: chaos book" and it isnt in any of the links.

>>53254600
nah it's not out yet

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>>53254546
>>53254600
>>53254516

Shadespire is a card/board game hybrid.
Sigmar skirmish is a game like mordheim/hinterlands for models already in production which everyone already owns. You basically get the rules and can play right away.

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>>53254578
k

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>>53254546
It looks like a japanese boy band, except with fatter and with milder poses.

>>53254546
Good thing I saved my Tomb King bits.
Going to TK those guys up

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>>53254578
Animooted version.

Remember the posts about who were worse? The Aelf players or the Death whiners?

>>53254891
>>53254952
>>53254989

I think we have our answer

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>>53254989

>>53255038
Yep
Aelfs

>>53252939
You take 30 Bloodletters, buff them with Sayl, buff them with Lord of War from a general, and have a Bloodsecrator. Optionally you can buff them with a Bloodstoker as well so they don't fail to reach the opposite deployment zone.

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>>53255038
Hey now, I ain't a player of either. I just like a little bit of making fun of overly self-absorbed pop culture trope every now and then.

It's really easy at this level. But when it comes to fantasy battle orcs taking themselves seriously, I run out of material for fun. It is as if the worst people possible failed to catch the nuance, and were instead impressed with it.

Can I get some feedback on my list before I buy the models I'm missing to make it? I'd really like to give the overseer's fate twisters a try and this looks like the cheapest way of bringing the battalion.

Allegiance: Tzeench
Heroes:
- Herald of Tzeench on a Burning Chariot (general)
- Lord of Change
- The Changeling
- The Blue Scribes
- Tzaangor Shaman
Battleline:
- Burning Chariots of Tzeench x 3
Other:
- Exalted Flamer of Tzeench x2
- Tzaangor Skyfires
Battalions:
Overseer's Fate Twisters
2000/2000 points

I still didn't figure out the weapons and extra spells, but I'm thinking of bringing a bunch of firestorms/bolts of Tzeench to abuse the extra destiny dice

>>53255313
missed the x2 on the skyfires

>>53255313
Does anyone use slaves to darkness mark tzeentch?
All the Tzeentch armies I see only contain the new stuff

>>53255435
Tzeentch doesn't have buffs for marked units like Nurgle and Khorne. They're only good for taking Marauders to fill battleline, since Tzaangors with shields are nearly as defensive while being better in every single other way. occasionally you might see a Sorcerer Lord in a Tzaangor deathstar or Tzeentch Archaon list.

>>53255585
Tzaangors obselete warriors is what I meant.

>>53255585
I never see them in any lists other than slaanesh actually, probably because the only units slaanesh has are hellstriders

>>53255671
They work with Mortal Nurgle since it has good formations that need to filled out and otherwise you're limited to Blightkings. Marauders aren't so shitty for 60 points when they're in an Archaon Nurgle list and get 2 attacks 2 wounds from Glottkin, 5+ ward from Harbinger, 6+ ward from warshrine, and -1 to be hit from battalion.

I've finally got through the final stage of grief over Warhammer Fantasy and I want to ask; are there any books for AoS you'd recommend /aosg/?

Generally I read the books for 40k and Fantasy and it'd inspire me to build and paint certain models, what's the fluff like for AoS so far? All I've really read is the wiki stuff.

If you have an ability that triggers on a save of 6 and your opponent is attacking with a unit with rend does it reduce the save roll so that the ability no longer activates?

>>53255882
City of Secrets is the most fun so far. The early Realmgate books are literary toy commercials for Sigmarines and Khorne, but the later ones are really good. Theres a variety of quick reads for different factions that showcase stories about certain units or lore friendly battalions.

>>53254272
FEC team looks like it was built just to show off models rather than be functional.

>>53255585

can you use the destiny dice to activate Archaon's slayer of kings ability (assuming you have 2 sixes in the pool)?
if so, Tzeentch Archaon lists sound pretty terrifying

>>53254682
AoS skirmish is just going to be AoS kill team, utilizing the core AoS rules for small scale and individual models.

It's not going to be a new mordheim

But for a rulebook for only $10 I don't see a reason not to get it lol.

I have no interest in playing AoS proper but would consider playing an AoS skirmish game if it's actually a dedicated Skirmish game and not just AoS with half the rules cut off.

Does anyone know what the specifics are going to be yet?

>>53255882
I play in the old lore still.
My group has the old world as a cloned planet in the realm of chaos with a hidden realm gate on it to explain new armies.

>>53256603
Probably like Hinterlands or Regiments of Renown. Rules here:

https://warhammerworld.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/Warhammer-Age-of-Sigmar-Regiment-of-Renown-pack-2-FINAL.pdf

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>>53256641
This was a typical regiments of renown army.
It was a great rule set and really fun to use just a few doods

>>53256641
Oh yeah im not going to play that. I'll keep an eye on it to see if it comes out looking any better though.

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>>53256798
look up hinterlands then

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>>53256798
>>53256861
Oh wait I got it. Attached,

>>53256535
Yes you can, he also gets lore of fate and can be the target of arcane transformation.

With Infusion arcanum and a sorcerer lord he can be running around with a 2+ save rerolling 1 and 5 swords attacks at 2+/2+ rerolling to hit and wound that activate slayer of kings on a 5+.

If he takes Shield of Fate instead he can reroll saves up to rend-3.

If he takes Treacherous Bond you can give him a practically infinite number of wounds.

>>53257004
still can die to a mighty lord of khorne in 1 hit

>>53256316
That sounds a lot like how I play this game, I approve.

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I am excited for Aelves soon. Cool that Death is getting some attention, they need it. Goblins would be neat too. So much potential with this setting.

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How do we solve the AQ (Aelf Question)?
I am looking for a Final Solution but it is hard to Concentrate, maybe we should send them to camps?

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The new How to Paint Citadel Miniatures PDF is proving to be very useful. Any tips on how to blend so smoothly though? I can't get my blue this light and smooth.

Also why do stormcucks have no dicks?

40fag here

Well I just ordered Festus and a box of Blightkings. Here goes nothing!

>>53258509
Is this real

>>53259023
Yes it's real. Games workshop gave a tutorial specifically for teaching you how to paint a model's cock and balls. What you are seeing is not a photoshop.

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>>53258977
Good luck my dude

>>53259023
yes. Empire are known for their massive dongs and taking on orcs and other monsters as mere humans. Their balls are huge

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>>53259045
Are you trying to be sarcastic or something?

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>>53259208
>>53258509
>Now remember that the empire statesman has a large set of burley hairy testicles, so be sure to highlight his codpiece with at least 3 layers, followed by a final blend of white scar

So this week 40k is recieveng all the good love from GW right?

Thinking about getting into AoS after being talked into playing Vermintide/Total Warhammer by buddies,

How much hate am I gonna get for playing Skaven (specifically Skyre because I love me some weird tech)?

>>53259517
None if you don't powergame. The main problem is that people take Sayl the faitnless to teleport stormfeinds. Its unfluffy too because he has nothing to do with skaven.
Enjoy the game my dude, skrye are fun to play against

>>53259517

No reason to hate skavens nowadays... If you want to be hated play Samecast, KO, Skyfires or BCR other than those are fine

>>53259517
Skaven are also in Mordheim city of the damned. Its a pretty good PC game

>>53257972
there are almost none anyways so its really a non issue. give it another year with no releases for them and anyone who likes elves will have moved on in life to other interests.

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>>53259450
Yeah.

>>53259517
No hate at all, they are a fluffy, balanced army that's fun to play with and against

>>53259566
What's with the skyfires hate in these threads anyway? Aren't they just a faster, weaker version of kurnoths? Or is it just some specific formation?

>>53254272
You know what, I think I could make a pretty nifty ambush themed Wood Elf Skirmish team with Waywatchers, Glade Riders and maybe a Wardancer or two.

Like a small band of bandits.

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>Tfw know in my heart Forge World will take forever to release rules for Chaos Dwarfs in AoS Skirmish, if it all.

Christ why are these faggots so slow.

Quick! Post a thousand point list of your favorite faction in AoS, then explain why you like those dudes.

Also, is 1k points inherently less cheesy than 1.5/2k? With the battleline tax it feels like you're limited from simply rolling over everyone on turn one. Whats your favorite point value for AoS?

>>53259557
>>53259566
Glad to hear.

>>53259609
I'll give it a look then.

>>53260180
That's a relief

>play 40k Orks because weird tech: it's shitty
>play 40k Skit-Mech because weird tech: people complain it's too strong

>>53260408
>Implying AoS skirmish won't be using all the current warscrolls for stats on everything
>Implying it won't be just AoS kill team
Just the rulebook being $10 rules out the possibility of this being nu-mordheim I would say

>>53260437
Neat, I am honestly only looking into this thread for skirmish and don't play currently but here it goes
General frostlord on thundertusk
A group of six yhetees
Skal featuring ice bow hunter and 4 kitteh....

I like yeti's and pirates, for skirmish should I play beast claw or privateers.

>>53254272
Who won?

>>53261282
Its Wednesday. Bottle will be doing a battle report for all non-WHTV subscribers

I've got a game coming up this Wednesday against SCE. I've got Brayherd, some Warherd, Slaves and Skaven and 2000pts to work with. Currently something like this:
Allegiance: Chaos
Beastlord (80)
- General
- Pair of Man-ripper Axes
- Trait: Dark Avenger
- Artefact: Crown of Conquest
Malagor, The Dark Omen (120)
Wargor Standard Bearer (80)
Slaughterpriest with Hackblade and Wrathhammer (100)
Warp Lightning Cannon (180)
Doomwheel (140)

2x Gors [2handweapon] -10 man (160)
2X Bestigors - 10 man (280)
Chaos Warriors [handweapon/shield] - 20man (360)
Stormfiends (300)
Bullgors (180)

Warp Lightning Cannon (180)
Doomwheel (140)

Thoughts being I can pull/lure things into a good charging position for me on turn 2, turn 1 if very lucky. Dish out mortal wounds to Decimators or heroes coming my way, and try to win objective. I've never faced Stormcasts and it looks like they nuke wizards and need rend to crack reliably

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>>53261825
Id go all skaven and beastmen that way its like... an animal army or something. Like Chaos beasts.

>>53261301
That's good to know

>>53262126
I was running Chaos Fuzzballs (beasts and Skaven) before, but it's usually very squishy. The Warriors are there to fix that and the Slaughterpriest is converted to look like a Beastman

>>53262415
Get a jabbersythe or wrathmongers. They wreck anything strong. Like fucking destroy decimators, beastclaw etc. Just run them at the enemies strongest stuff

>>53254516
>>53254546
>>53254682
>Shadespire is a card/board game hybrid.
So that's were the skeleton are gonna be in?

If the HH boardgames are any indicator I figure I'll be able to pick a few fancy skellies up on ebay then. Nice.

>>53263216
I think the skellies will be sold in a separate box, like the skaven and goblin teams for bloodbowl.

>>53260209
Kurnoths have rend-1 and 4 damage per unit. 9 of them can shoot your dragon and do jack shit. They also don't appear in huge hordes because people takes scythes on some of them and Sylvaneth behemoths and formations eat so many points.

With Skyfires you see 12+ of them and instead of saving its just lol heres your 12 mortal wounds. Then they fly halfway across the board. If you get your guys close they get charged and you have to watch his archers do 20+ damage in melee.

>>53264694
Yeah the issue with Skyfires is when you get those armies with 20+ skyfires, and the bare minimum of Battleline units. Much like how gunlines are cancer to meet, except these guys move too fast to be caught easilly.

>>53260437
Dispossessed
1 Warden King 120
2 Runelords 160
1 Josef Bugman 100

10 Warriors 100
10 Longbeards 140
10 Quarrellers 120
10 Ironbreakers 160
10 Miners 120

I like it because I love dwarfs and because deep striking dwarfs is fun when people expect you to be a slow as hell melee army.
Runelord shields+Ironbreakers=absurdly tanky dudes.

I have yet to do much more than 1000 point games. I've had a few hovering around 1500-1800 and they didn't seem any more or less balanced to me.

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Holy shit these things are so dumb looking and I love them. Why are these so much fun to put together lol.

and the general's handbook pdf link is dead

>>53265216
which means downloading it from the other resources.

Alright /aosg/ help me decide a bad guys army. I'm currently collecting stormcast.

I'm drawn to Rotbringers and misc Nurgle, but I had a crazy idea for a Death force of undead pirates, led by Arrrrrkan the Blackbeard with 3 mortis engines converted/scratchbuilt to look like the derelict remains of a pirate ship in 3 parts, each part held up by spirit hosts that look like water.

I also have an idea to do some small un-life boats, with a corpsemaster paddling, and have his paddles hitting the swarm of zombies that hold his boat up.

>>53256606
Same here, we Just came up with alternarive fluff for the new factions.
Like stormcasts are actual Champions of Slaneesh

>>53260437
Armies at 1k can be just as cheesy if not more so because your opponents usually have more limited options. Kunnin Rukk + Thundertusk fits in 1k for instance. Most people just don't cheese at 1k because it would be ruthless.

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>>53265174
Spawns are great. And they become even better if you use greenstuff and other bitz from other kits on them Or if you build them from scratch

>>53265234
The undead pirate things sounds very ambitious, maybe a bit overly so.

Regarding Nurgle, you might be a little patient and see what happens the next few months. If the Tzeentch release is any indication then we should see new Nurgle releases after the Death Guard release.

>>53265334
Please thin your paints
Thats just embarassing

>>53265334
I wouldn't call that better. Looks like dogshit.

>>53265356
>>53265381
I'll admit they aren't the best looking models in my collection, but I like them nonetheless, and I have improved with my painting since after I got them (and the one to the far right was a fun thing my friend cobbled together one day when we were having some fun painting together

>>53260440
You can abuse skryre to some extent, which people find not that fun (Mainly; if you run several Stormfiend units with 3x warpfire throwers)

But in general you can avoid those pitfalls, and even if you bring a heavy ammount of them they can be played around.

How good is this my Wildstalker Brayherd list?
>Beastlord with Twin Man ripper axes

>Great Bray Shaman

>20 Gors with Gor Blades
>20 Gors with Beast Shields

>10 Ungor Raiders

>2 Units of 10 Bestigors

>>53265526
It's 1000p by the way

Since the General's Handbook link is down use this one instead

https://mega.nz/#!nMpnGQBS!Ew5rz8JMzKi5e7_mtN9nibMGY3UWO5jwOl8DIf9UZ1I

>>53265526
It probably has too many cheap infantry, but with whats in the list I'd combine my Bestigors into one unit so the Beastlord can support them better and all of them can get my Mystic Shield. I'd screen in front of them with Ungors, have one 10 gors hold an objective, and make a 30 block as a second combat unit. Run Crown of Command and Lord of War so the big units always have inspiring presence and the Bestigors have +2/+3 against most units.

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How badly would I get owned? Want to paint as few rank and file as possible

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I found this picture on the internet in the same gallery with AoS arts. Might mean nothing, but might actually mean something.

>>53266935
i think this is warcraft

>>53266654
The monster mash list shows up in tournaments sometimes, its not terrible. It just doesn't do what Sylvaneth is strong at as much, casting a bunch of spells and putting woods everywhere with a shit load of kurnoths.

Is there a good way to play Skaven without getting rekt by Battleshock?
I want to run just hordes of lads, but they just take 1/3 casualties, then the rest of them just run away
Losing 18 clan rats just to battleshock alone feelsbadman

>>53267297
inspiring presence helps

take the crown of conquest to get more inspiring presence

>>53267297
The Skaven Chieftain with a Battle Standard makes all skaven within 13" immune to battleshock.

>>53267297

What these >>53267305
>>53267382
are saying can't be news to you right? And taking the Verminus clawpack also helps.

>>53267305
Good plan, was focusing too much on 'Skaven only' stuff

>>53267382
>>53267390
Would the Chieftain not just get rekt by ranged since there's no way of hiding him?
He wouldn't be that hard to take down and he'd be a priority target due to how valuable his utility is.

(I appreciate the input, lads)

How do I deal with Moonclan bravery issues?

>>53267508
Inspiring Presence

>>53267518
This.

I ran a unit of 40 Moonclan Grots with a bunch of nets in a recent doubles tournament. That, coupled with a Warboss sulking at the back made them pretty formidible.

>>53267418
>Would the Chieftain not just get rekt by ranged since there's no way of hiding him?

yeah probably, you can always take two or overload your opponents target priority.

A giant horde of shitty rats is more the Clan Pestilens thing anyway. They gain effectiveness deployed in mass amounts of disposable min size units.

>>53267418
Shield him with the clanrats? Don't know precisely about this since I think my group speaks with some unspoken houserules about LoS.

By the way,
>3 units of 20 clanrats
> 20 stormvermin
> 3 x 60pt weapon teams
> Warlord
> Verminus clawpack
runs you at 1000 pt precise.

Equip your guy with the crown of conquest and a trait of your choosing and you have a decent horde army. They'll retain their +2 bravery bonus for quite some time and you get some mortal wound spam if you just take 3 warpfire throwers.

I played GW games a long time ago, and with a bit of free time right now, decided to come back to the hobby. My old models for WFB/w40k are gone, so I have to stright back up from 0. I noticed the sky pirate dwarfs and fell in love with them . the models look great. So I borrowed a pad from a friend and build this army to start with
2xArkonatu company
2xskywarden boxs
1x Arkonatu Admiral
1xFriget
1xunit of those gun dwarfs.
Then I noticed how much they cost. I asked around in the FLGS, which were many to be honest as 3 of the ones I knew were closed, but all had the same cost as the GW store.
Now is there a way to start the army for cheaper? the army is just a starting one and it already costs twice as much as the army I had back in 4th ed, and those models were metal.
Are there some sort of recasters or do you have to buy models at full price nowadays. I haven't been playing for like 16 years, so am totaly out of touch with how table tops work now.

>>53269294
>Now is there a way to start the army for cheaper?
Most retailers sell GW stuff at 15-25% off and offer free shipping for large enough orders

The problem with starting KO is that theyre a new faction and they dont have any bundles (yet). If youre looking for a cheap starter army then look at getting a Start Collecting box for a different faction

>>53269345
Ok, how many starter sets would I need? I did not download the general handbook yet, couldn't find it anywhere. From what I know, people here play 2000-2500pts games. Are Imperial knightly orders still part of some faction?

>>53265526
You're missing like 30 more ungors for that formation, but okay.

Just use the furious brayherd formation (compendium) instead. At 1000, it's better to go without the warscroll tho

>>53256887
The campaign rules are pretty much fine. I don't like that it requires use of costs and warscrolls from the generals handbook though, I might give it a shot.

>>53269521
Depends on the faction you want to play

Knightly Orders were cut from the game but all the other Empire models still exist as the Freeguild (rank and file troops), Ironweld Arsenal (artillery), Collegiate Arcane (wizards), and Devoted to Sigmar (flagellants and warrior priests)

Dont worry too much about the generals handbook yet. Just find a faction you like first

Kharadron Overlords will be one of the more expensive armies to start because they are brand new

>>53269608
Well I like mounted knights and the new dwarfs. Bretonians seem to be gone too. I had a look at the GW sites and I don't know why, but the asthetics of all the factions seemed to be too wierd for me. Sure there was chaos, skaven and undead back when I played, but where did all the medival-XVI/XVII century stuff went?

I guess I can wait a few weeks. Is there any chance for knightly orders coming out anywhere soon, and I mean like soon soon, not GW soon which can be years.

>>53269608
Or maybe I'll take this from another engle. How many points would be 2 brotherhoods, the thunder gun dwarfs and the general? Anywhere near 2k pts?

>>53269667
>but where did all the medival-XVI/XVII century stuff went?
Bretonnians and Knightly Orders are gone and arent likely to ever return, but like I said the rest of the Empire is still around

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>new warband start collections
>bloodbound, SC, ironjaws and flesheater
why the fuck couldn't it be free people, elves or dorfs, the fuck GW

>>53269691
check scrollbuilder.com for point values

>>53269667
Empire cavalry is still around, otherwise you go on EBay. Bretonnians still have rules.

>>53269712
>Empire cavalry is still around
Knightly Orders were cut, theres only Pistoliers and Outriders

>>53269794
And Demigryph Knights

>>53269552
Also reminder that if you do go for Furious Brayherd, you can't take Raiders, only melee Ungors.

>>53269711
thanks, a lot for the link. But damn its only 480pts.
>>53269694
Ah, ok. So besides the dwarfs is there any chance there are going to be non magic looking factions in the future, or will everything look like chaos/law warriors?
>>53269712
I checked the store, they don't have any bretonian boxs.

Is there some good site to go through WFB armies, the GW site is horrible to navigate.

>>53269958
Well its high fantasy so anything can happen, but odds are you wont see many more medieval style factions any more

>>53269958
Go with Chaos Dwarfs.

>>53265242
What?

>>53254272
Hs AOS lore improved or is still and SJW fantasy crap?

>>53270050
Wow those came back? I can't find them on the GW store or FLGS, but I may have missed them. It is not like I had every box in my hands. How do they look like. I tried to google them, but all I got were old models from before even my time.

>>53270112
Forge World my friend, damn sexy ones too, probably best looking models Forge World has put out

>>53270112
They've been on Forge World for years, man.

What is the fluff for Moonclan Grots? Still just goblins who live underground eating mushrooms?

>>53270142
>>53270144
Fuck, FW is out of question for me. 1 box of dude costs like 200$ or more.

Didn't think I would say it, but maybe I wait for w40k next edition. Never liked w40k a lot, but everyone keeps saying it can be played with fewer points. 2000pts cost as much in my home currency as it costs in points, and that is too much for me.

Realy sad to hear that the empire is gone. Is there a place where I can read the fluff from last 10 years wfb?

>>53270203
The blackshard War host is only like 180 anon, it's not too bad a price

>>53270259
>The blackshard War
0_0 one unit costs 180 pounds. That is crazy.

>>53270324
It's actually 4 units of 10 and a command squad of 3 for a starting army. Not too bad actually

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So, knowing nothing about Warhammer except playing 40k video games a long time ago. I really really enjoyed Total War Warhammer and got two of my friends to play multiplayer battles and campaigns with me. Following that we played vermintide games and then I really got into Mordheim on the PC.

My friends and I start talking about taking up the minatures game, picking an army a piece and getting into it on our boardgame nights.

Then one of my friends tells me that the setting we wanna play in no longer exists. Allofmywuts.

Theres no Karl franz to buy and paints cause hes fucking dead.

We're all really confused, find out the End Times happened, world is over. Theres some new thing called age of sigmar.

None of us are interested in what sounds like transdimensional space fights, we just wanted more of the setting that really swept us up thanks to total war/vermintide

Are we just screwed? Why did they kill off the series for this? I mean total warhammer 2 is coming and so we've just foregone any minatures talk and just got hyped about that instead.

Whats the deal? Do they not want my money? Is there an alternative for people that are interested in the first setting and not AoS?

>>53270324
The Blackshard Warhost is 160 poons and it has four units, plus a command group, my dude. Expensive, but not ridiculous.

>>53270548

You can still buy Karl Franz. You can still play the game just like you're in the old world.

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>>53270324
Are you talking about this one? Because it's not bad given the quality of the models and all that you get

>>53270548
>Are we just screwed
>Is there an alternative for people that are interested in the first setting and not AoS?
You can always just... play old school WHFB if you like it so much. Sure, it's not supported anymore, but no one's gonna stop you from playing. ...Unless you want to play Brets or Tomb Kings.

>Why did they kill off the series for this?
Because WHFB sales were garbage. AoS was a big risk and so far it's paid off, ending up a lot more profitable than WHFB had been in years.

‘Punctuality has always been one of your more pleasing virtues, Steel Soul,’ the newcomer said, as she drew close. The Lord-Celestant was as large as Gardus, and her silver war-plate was marked with a profusion of blessed prayer scrolls. Her helmet hung from her belt, and her round, dark face was set in a look of stern disapproval as she studied Zephacleas. ‘But your choice of such disreputable friends has ever been your greatest failing. Take care, lest they lead you into impropriety.’

Well, first female stormcast ever depicted in the fluff directly and she's a stuck up bitch, it seems. First words spoken.

>>53270584
Where at pls! All I can find is what looks like peoples old armies and models for sale. Was really looking forward to painting my own guys.

>>53269697
Because all those factions are shit and old and you know it

Now post moar femcast

>>53270611

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Karl-Franz-on-Deathclaw

>>53270548
Low quality bait dude. You're literally talking about shit happening two years ago. Want to know? Download the books and then decided if it's actually for you.

>>53270611
Hes renamed Freeguild General on Griffon
But as you can see his mount has "KARL FRANZ" painted on the chest still

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Karl-Franz-on-Deathclaw

Also the URL says "..en-GB/Karl-Franz-on-Deathclaw"

>>53254378
aint it like £50 for 5 brutes and £20ish for a weirdnob shaman?

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>>53270703
Yeah...
GW will not lower prices, however they HAVE been putting more value in boxes thanks to Rowntree being in charge.
Its pretty good, like the seraphon start collecting box. You are paying for the carnosaur and getting all the saurus and cav for free.

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How's Neferata compared to a VLoZD?
They cost the same and have a very neat defensive CA, but I'm having a hard time gauge her.

>>53270730
yeah some of the prices are a bit stupid. £48 for a box of 3 gore-gruntas while the ironjaws start collecting is £50 plus some more stuff. it doesn't make sense to me but hey more value for us.

>>53270078
>sjw
What

When was it ever this

>>53270169
They havent written much about them so its whatever you want them to be

>>53271201
bait mate

>>53271231
Slaneesh in the game?

>>53271412
how is that sjw?

>>53271412
>slaneesh
>the god of excess
>SJW

Youve gone full retard

>>53270831
For 100 damage 1 attacks at 4+/3+ on a 0 armor save 22 get through with Ruler of the Night, and 18.5 get through with Twilight's Allure, and you give up your command ability for it. Offensively she's slightly better than a VLZoD with a sword if he doesn't command ability himself. Her spell is only better than the natural 3+ save of the Vampire against rend-2 plus it can fail. Its funny when you stack her, mourngul, and cursed book however.

>>53270998
Prices usually include the cost of the mould divided by how many sets GW expects to sell. Which is why units that are not likely to be the bulk of the army usually seem more expensive.

>>53271482
fair enough

>>53271505
That explains why 1 Endrinmaster is $25, it doesn't explain why 3 gruntas are $79 and 3 gruntas, 10 ardboyz, and a chanter are $85.

>>53271429
>>53271452
Are slaneesh armies in the game?

>>53271714
Yep.

>>53271714
Yes

>>53271739
>>53271745
Then its not sjw

>>53271784

They've never been missing/absent. In fact, got more narrative attention than ever.

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>>53265242
>>53271412
>>53271452
>>53271714
>Slaneesh

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I've made an update to my Savage Worlds Age of Sigmar supplement .

There's now a Quest Builder, which lets you roll on a bunch of tables and generate a quest for your party to undertake. There's stuff in there for characters from every alliance, like Monster Hunting and destroying Temples. Also cool stuff like unusual terrain (Floating Mountains, Sentient Fog in Ulgu etc). AoS is full of such wonderful geography, so it's good to represent it in some form.

It's also (finally) too large for the /tg/ size limit. So here's a link to check it out.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/bnnzwmrtffe772v/The%20Savage%20Age%20of%20Sigmar%20-%20Core%20Rulebook%20-%20Version%201.3.pdf?dl=0

Also apparently it has a 1d4chan article now. Big thanks to the guy in here that made and sent me that.

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/The_Savage_Age_of_Sigmar

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>>53271472

Neat, thanks. had thought of the stacking. If only she could take it, but then atleast I have a open relic slot for someone else. My main concern is her healing is wose then the normal vampire (unless I've overseen something) and I'm currently going back and forth over which is better for the wider army, the CA of the VLoZD or the bubble of -1 to hit if I keep her close, the real kicker is RotN which would be deliously resilence on my two units of skelingtons.
That's the ideas anyway.

I have the model and wanted to use her as a Vamp on zombie dragon, since I've always had a thing against named characters. The problem is that I fear people won't allow me to run the model as a zombie dragon. I just want an egyptian vamp and shes as close as I can get.

>>53270548
While AoS is a better game, I concur on the disappointment over the loss of the old setting's charm. But the problem in and of itself is easy to fix - you can use the new models in the old ruleset without the least of a hassle by changing bases, and furthermore, there is a highly lively model resale scene around all games workshop games. As such, you can buy everything you need, from books to models to scenery, even if the material is withdrawn from the stores themselves.

>>53271965
Just tried it out:

Quest was to convince a group of nobles in a magical city in the Realm of Light, against an army of Khornates, with a nurgle force as a wildcard. Neat, it's like a Black Library AoS story generator.

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>>53271965
This is relevant to my interests.

>>53272199
She heals 2 per combat and the vampire heals 1, you can get it on your turn and the opponents so she could be getting 4 per turn. So the healing isn't necessarily worse without the chalice.

The way I'd use vlzd is as a beatstick. Give him a lance, cloak of mist of shadows, and red fury and he can get anywhere on demand and pretty much just delete any unit you need. Or I'd run him with Crypt Flayers or Spirit Host since they're the only reliable mortal wound generation for Death, and his reroll greatly empowers that.

Neferata has hidden value since a lot of special abilities trigger on a hit of 6. Stuff like Retributors/Bloodletters/Skyfires mortal wounds gets shut down.

>>53272936
I do like trying it out every once and a while. I'm pretty proud with the result.

>Protect a Cursed Book in a desert in the Realm of Fire against an invading Orruk force. Reinforcements are on the way.

It writes itself.

>>53273012
I see what you are saying, but what if the vlozd had the Tomb blade relic? Surely that would offset the healing factor

>>53273142
Sure, but it only counts his hand weapon so hard to get more than an extra one.

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Hi /AoS/,

I wanna hear from you guys about my Warherds models.

I know that they aren't good, or even close to good, but I wanna know what I can do better to improve.

Can you guys point out some of the stuff that seems to be off/not done? I want a lot of point blank critique of stuff like "The hands look like shit, you need to thin your paints".

They aren't done yet overall. Some of the stuff that is still being worked on includes a)The bases b)The Doombull's head/shoulder plate and c)The hands need to be washed.

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I hope this skirmish stuff is fun.
would be nice collecting a small warband and giving each model a lot of extra bits

>>53273686
Guess we have to wait and see tomorrow. I'm optimistic, I have a lot of respect for GW nowadays,

Have any of you done a model for the eclipse competition on the aos28 page?

>>53273570
the big thing's skin and all the bone on it look really flat

How should I play against shooty armies as khorne mortals? Feels like the game has very little cover that can easily be used. Units cant be screened either. What gets through to make a charge hits cheap frontline fighters with high saves. Even if you get through, it's not possible to tie up ranged units. And it's way easier to keep a good formation when you dont have to run, so your bonus totems can just sit there.

So far the best I can do is hope for high run and charge rolls and that my opponent doesnt get a double turn in the first two rounds.

>>53271638
>it doesn't explain why 3 gruntas are $79 and 3 gruntas, 10 ardboyz, and a chanter are $85.

Dude, just be happy that they started doing discounts on bundle boxes again after years of them being exactly the same price or MORE expensive than their component parts.

Best way to fit some bloodletters into my general khorne list that wants to have mortals/bloodbound/daemons?

I only have the khorne half of the starter set, a box of bloodletters, and considering picking up gorechosen soon. Looking to play at around 1000/1500 pts

>>53273570

The big guy needs more shading for sure as he looks super flat.

Other than that, add plenty of blood to these guys and they should be good to go

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>>53274118
Yep, finished him up ages ago.

>>53275816
Totems aren't supposed to live, getting 5 attacks each, and rerolling failed hits, and auto battleshock immunity on reavers that cost 7 points a model would be absurd otherwise. Yes you don't have to work for it at all atm, and the teleports, and skirmishers, and assassins, and arcing artillery, and shit that are supposed to do it exist already. But it is what it is and flying is going to necessary until they make a hard ruling against shooting like having models able to screen out line of sight against shooting. Until then Khorne works better as majority khorne chaos allegiance with cunning deceiver and sayl because flying is necessary, and maybe I should mix in like 12 skyfires too.

I'm thinking of starting a destruction army, I like the look of moonclan or Bonesplitterz. How viable is a mix of the both of them, I'm guessing since neither actually have any specific allegiance abilities there shouldn't be too much of an issue?

>>53277785
Go MoonKKKlan

>>53265334
OOOH! New one for the collection!

>>53275913
Get a Herald
>80
5 Flesh hounds x2
>200
Muderhost
>20

So that will be 400 points with the Bloodletters. Should be more than enough to fill out with Mortals/Bloodbound after that.

>>53276311
wew this looks like shit

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>>53276311
Looks great! I like how vibrant he is.
These are mine

>>53281282
The Skulltaker is a bloodletter hero and he's a lot better than the herald for only 20 points.

I just came up with the strongest possible idea for a new faction.

Horses.

Just mounts. Horses, boars, wolves, squigs etc as battlelines, pegasi, hippogriffs etc for leaders and griffins for behemoths. Zero goddamn riders. They'd wipe the floor with the incompetent humanoid factions, no contest. Imagine playing Bretonnians without all the dead weight.

Anyone tried Skarbrand? 400 seems reasonable for a named behemoth compared to the other factions.
If Skarbrand was not able to attack in at least one of the combat phases of the previous battleround, he is always Incandescent, regardless of the wounds he has remaining.

At least one of the previous combat phases seems to imply that hes Incandescent if he was out of combat in either your turn or the opponents. So turn 1 I could go second, he gets charged and kills stuff, then on my turn hes still got the buff eventhough hes in combat because he's pissed he missed a round?

>>53275816
Shooty armies are beaten by fast armies.

Run the Goretide battalion, gives you an extra D6" movement. It can mean the difference between a turn 2 or turn 3 engagement against shooting armies.

>>53277785
Bonesplitterz have allegiance abilities

So the Balewind Vortex "doubles the range of spells" being cast by the person on top - I can see this for a ranged attack type spell, but does it also work for summoning spells?

>>53286709
Of course it does, are you dumb?

>>53286799

Technically speaking, with summoning there is no target - you cast the spell, then if successful you place a unit with X" which is different to targeting a unit within X" with a spell (such as Arcane Bolt)

>>53286591
>So turn 1 I could go second, he gets charged and kills stuff, then on my turn hes still got the buff eventhough hes in combat because he's pissed he missed a round?
If he gets charged and kills things then he was involved in a combat phase... so no he wouldn't get the buff

Common strategy with Skarbrand is to just keep him out of combat the first turn and have him murderlize things for the rest of the game

>>53286914
So?

It doesnt say "double the range of spells with targets", it just says "double the range of spells"

>>53285093
Excellent, they're twisted as fuck. I like the colours as well, drab but detailed.

The thing I like most about DAoS is that most of the models for it can easily fit into Inq28 and vice versa.

Have I made a huge mistake starting the game with Moonclan Grots?

>>53287118
At least they look cool

>>53286958
>If he gets charged and kills things then he was involved in a combat phase... so no he wouldn't get the buff
That's the intuitive way for it to work but it doesn't seem to me to be the way its written.

>>53287118
You can always add some Beastclaw raiders or the Arachnarok combo in with them.

did they finally kill off shitmare and just turn it into mordhime?

On the subject of moonclan, is the colossal squig from forge world worth taking with them?
It's 300 points and quite squishy but it looks like it can dish out a fair bit of damage

>>53287281
I'd rather have the mangler I think.

>>53287387
fair enough, I was just wondering because the model looks cool.

>>53287118
It's only a mistake if you realize you don't like the model range or are bored with their aesthetic.

>>53287264
What?

y dont grand alliance scans?

>>53287431
Yeah, the reason to get one is because its cool and really fluffy for moonklan. It does 12 damage average at rend-2 with its uninjured profile, which is really respectable, its more than Bloodthirsters do. It just degrades too quickly, at just 4 wounds down its only doing 7 average.

Is there any army in this game that gains units when it kills an enemy?

>>53287551
Zombies.

https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Warscrolls/aos-warscroll-zombies-en.pdf

Hey guys, I have a question: Can battalions stack?

Like if I have 3 units of orruk brutes and a weird nob shaman, can those orruks be in the ironfist battalion and weirdfist battalion at the same time as long as i pay all of the points for them?

Or do each battalions have to be separate? So if I wanted to take those battalions I'd have to have 6 units of brutes, 3 in the iron fist and 3 in the weird fist?

>>53288357
One unit can be a part of only one batalion at the same time, sir!

>>53288357
No. A unit cannot be part of more than one battalion at the same time. You can have both of those battalions in your army, but you need to buy them separately and buy the required units for each.

>>53287476
BINGO

>no non-plastic models in skirmish
RIP skaven

>>53288550
Like that will ever be enforced.

>>53288568
It's impossible not to. The units you're allowed to use are in the skirmish book and that's where you get their costs from. They don't use points.

Is anyone else having trouble uploading pictures? I keep getting an upload failed message.

>>53288590

take the point cost per model from any unit and the divide it by 5. Thats the renown cost of a single model from said unit.

thats the math they used so you can do it on any unit in the game and use the models form said unit in AOSkirmish.

>>53288391
>>53288400

Thanks, I figured that was the answer, it just seems silly that so many of the destruction battalions require the same stuff.

>>53288832
Well it's also nice because you can try different battalions without having to get more stuff to just try them. It gives you variety.

>>53287118

You should wait before think that... Lots of factions are waiting their moment with a battletome and new models. Just wait for your releases

AOS Skirmish:

its 50 Renown. You take AOS cost divide by 5 and that's the renown cost. It is per model right. Like Blood Warriors are 5 for 100pts. So its 20pts a guy so you could take 2 of them

>>53289357
Its per model point cost so
100 / 5 / 5


They're 4 each. Theyre aiming for 5-20 models per game

Does anyone have Z email address?
Need some glorious chinese resin.

What's the coolest colour scheme for footslogging orruks?

>>53289482
red or blue, maybe red and blue together

>>53289482
earthy tones and metal to go with the green. Some spot colours in red or blue.

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After the Klad Barag, dwarf steam mech, project I had a lot of extra bits. So i made a magnetized cannon/bolt thrower

Bolt Thrower variant

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>>53289621
Cannon variant

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New rumor engine, looks like ornate armor to me

>>53289688
it's probably something from forgeworld judging by the way it's painted.
Either something for the Hobbit or The Lion for 30k is my guess.

>>53289474
yes

>>53288809
That's not going to help anyone at all when they're trying to PUG.

>>53289415
>>53289357
Don't think that's 100% accurate. But seems about right if you need to calculate something that's not in the book.

>>53289621
>>53289636
That looks pretty amazing dude.

>>53289688
Looks like resin.

>>53289688
Looks like a pauldron, which makes it creepy, cause what kind of lion cloak still has eyes?

>>53289800
rumour mill is almost always resin

the eavy metal team is given pre-production resin casts while they finalize plastic production

>>53289688
Is this the first painted rumour mill pic we've seen?

>>53289889
It being painted and being resin makes me assume it's a forgeworld release.

>>53289621
>>53289636
Phallic as hell. Being in line of sight to it should give all SE a bravery penalty.

>>53289967
no, the KO spear and the Stormcast crossbow are two that immediately spring to mind, i'm sure there's a couple of others too.

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>>53289967
Are you kidding? We have had a lot of painted rumor mills.

>>53269569
>cost of warscrolls
This guy...

>>53290238
Read that post again.

>>53290220
I'm quite sure that the second from the right in the third line (that circular plate) is from the new 40k deathguard as they seem to share elements with the BKs and I would swear I saw one with that thing on it in one of the teasers

>>53289737
Oh you tease

>>53290327
Probably. But I'm not checking it off until it's concerned, like we see closeup images and 360 views

>>53290390
*confirmed

>>53289688
Are rumour engines from GW or are they from something else?

>>53290469
Theyre directly from GW. They post them every wednesday on their community page

>>53290265
He's still an immense faggot since the points can be found on scrollbuilder.

>>53290597
I don't think wanting everything to be self contained within one book makes someone an immense faggot.

>>53289688
there have been rumours that Lion El Johnson was in the making for a while now, its probably him

ok guys, I'll have soon a job interview for GW. Part of this is managing an initiation game for AOS. What kind of advices would you give to a new player in this case ? Would you propose to ignore some rules like mystery terrains for a later game or go with full rules for example ?

>>53290788
When said content is being provided free of charge by someone in the community and you are still whining, then sir; you are a faggot.

>>53290938
Within the context of the conversation being had, which is about Skirmish, an actual product that you have to buy it's completely reasonable to want that product to not require you to buy another product (GHB). Also GW apparently agree and that's why there are renown costs in the skirmish book.

>>53290896
Focus on the core mechanics, mention each phase and the kinds of things players can do during those phases, choose an easy scenario to play.

Is it one of those quick demos they have on the special boards they made or a proper game someone has asked to play in store?

>>53291007
Yes so what is your point then? Your comparing a free fanmade product to something that is made by a company and being sold for actual money. Just stop Anon, you're embarassing yourself.
>>53289415
>>53289357
Clanrats at 1 renown a rat, that might be a bit problematic. Although their low bravery is a weakness, considering bravery is tested army wide, instead of per unit.

After doing some calculations, there are a lot of edge cases that will be ad an advantage if they follow the formula exactly.

>>53290896
Talk slow and easy, plan beforehand in what order you are gonna explain shit.

Don't say anything that would be said in this thread or a forum. Nerdlingo and neckbeard opinions are the worst thing you can voice as an applicant.

>>53291042
good start, thx anon !

I don't know about the demo, but I will try to play some in another store to be prepared for this

>>53291105
Good, i'm used to speak in public or to explain things to newbie so this will do it. I will think about the core things I want to include in the game.

Yeah, I think the manager wanna see how I can handle kids/new prospect. They dont wanna hear shit about powerplay & theorycrafting. Thx anon

>>53291082
>what is skirmish going to be like
>probably like this fan made thing
>I don't like that this fan made thing requires me to buy this book, I hope that isn't the case in skirmish
>OMG U FUKKEN FAGGOT
>it isn't the case in skirmish
>OMG U FUKKEN FAGGOT
>Explanation for why it would have been a problem if it was the case in skirmish
>what's your point?
Is something wrong with your brain?

>>53291251
He's probably a stormcast player

>>53290896
The trick is don't really focus on the game, instead, while setting up, casually talk about how they should buy the starter set, which you are demoing on.
Also explain that Khorne is shit, and to collect Stormcast.
Then explain that Stormcast are super kool just like Space marines in this other game called Warhammer 40k
Oh look we just happen to have a starter set for that too. You should by both, and plenty of stormcast and space marine models

>>53290896
Make sound effects with your voice, and do your best to voice dialogue for the characters.

Insist the customer joins in.

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Tournament coming up thinking of the following for 200 pts

battleline:
2 units of 10 darkshards
1 unit of 10 dreadspears

leaders:
handmaiden of everqueen
alarielle the radiant
loremaster
dreadlord on black dragon
high elf lord on dragon
frost heart phoenix with anointed

other units:
sisters of avelorn
balewind vortex

anyone got advice on this?

>>53291600
>200 pts
2000pts

>>53291343
yeah, thx but a bit to agressive for me.

>>53291594
thx anon, I will think about it

>>53291594
GW love enthusiasm so this may legitimately work.

>>53290896
forge the narrative

>>53291918
I wont lie, I really enjoyed the 40k sample game I had in my nearest GW 14 years ago where the staff member was getting REALLY into it and doing sound effects. It still makes me laugh when I think about it.

>>53290896
When you reroll make sure to explain it's because you have a big mustache then ride your imaginary horse around the table.

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hey guys, riddle me this:

can I take a building in a pitched battle? Like for example if my army wanted to include a chaos skull keep??

>>53291594
>>53291918
>>53292003
Nice feedback on this one anons, I should really consider this then. Thx !

>>53291960
Great one, thx anon. This is actually a big thing for GW so i need to focus on that too !

>>53292087
nah, I will try to avoid this one. however, thx your participation

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Earlier in the stream today I asked if Soulblight was in skirmish. They answered in the affirmative. They have been saying that only plastic models have rules in skirmish...does this mean new plastic soulblight or literally only one model from soulblight has rules?

>>53294112
Interesting. I didn't catch the stream, how was it? Is it pretty much just kill team AoS like I predicted?

>>53293338
There are no points for it, so no.

>>53294569
damn. maybe for 2nd edition??

(i just want to put my bloodsecrator in it to buff his range to 36"

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>>53293544
>Great one, thx anon.

you're welcome

basically make up a story about who the armies fighting are, why they are fighting, and what the importance of the place they are fighting over is. Turn it into an exciting story.

People who love the game tend to do this themselves anyways.

>>53295230
You could always homebrew a narrative mission to incorperate the dreadhold. Perhaps a siege against the forces of Khorne?

>>53295611
Just noticed you wanted it for pitched battles. Disregard my post, I am an idiot.

>>53294112
>We want to make the game [enormous pile of buzzwords] that means you can't use half of the stuff you want to use! Isn't that functional and responsive!

So I guess it's confirmed then that I can't use Chaos Dwarfs from FW for Skirmish?

So anyone know where there's a writeup for what we know now for AoS skirmish rules?

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>>53295954
Correct.

>>53296534
Yes, Reddit:

>AoS Skirmish info from Warhammer Live
$10, goes on preorder this weekend.
>6 new Battleplans, can use the general's handbook battleplans also. Seize the Relic, Treasure Hunt,
games to be approx 30-45 mins
>Set in the ruins of Shadespire after Nagash does a thing
>Geared more towards narrative play than hyper competitive
>Warbands made with renown points.
>Points for all usable units will be in the book.
>No renown points for metal or resin models. >No compendium armies. They listed off a bunch of stuff you can take. Looks like basically anything not a behemoth that they sell in stores.
>Warbands must have at least 1 hero.
>New skirmish command abilities.
>Upgrade warbands between battles
>Use regular warscrolls with difference being minimum unit size is 1 for everything.
>Models act individually but there is a warband wide battleshock mechanic
>Played on a 4x4 board.
>Still has priority roll between rounds
>3 new spells for wizards. Twilight pathway-teleport friendly model 12". Soul Siphon deal 1 mortal wound and heal 1 wound. Shard mist -1 to hit distance.
>10 renown + Roll 2d6 for winning. 6 renown + 1d6 for losing.

The points seem to be consistent with ("Unit Cost/"Model Count")/5, rounded down to nearest whole, so use that to guess how much stuff will cost.

>>53290220
The Rat tail isn't the recent Bloodbowl Skaven player?

>>53296759
I looked, and it isn't. Try to find it yourself.

>>53294112
You'd think they'd have learned a lesson from Shadow War: Armageddon and realized that people actually want to play things other than just that which is available in plastic box sets. The SW:A rules team put out SoB and Inquisition kill teams like a week after the game came out.

Maybe they'll put out an expanded list of shit you can use at some point.

>>53270730
Honestly, I think the Start Collecting boxes are an easy sell that checks all of the boxes.
1. Marketed towards helping new players (and current players) start new armies. That others simply buy multiples to bolster current armies is merely a bonus
2. I imagine it drastically increases average transaction price which can look good for investors
3. Makes the community happy without the need for "discounts". Seasonal discounts in particular in this hobby could open the door for long dry spells between "sales".

I really just want to make an army based on turning things into other things. Is this a decent list for that?

Allegiance: Chaos

Leaders
Fatemaster (140)
- General
- Trait: Boundless Mutation
- Artefact: Changeblade
Magister (120)
Tzaangor Shaman (120)

Battleline
10 x Kairic Acolytes (140)
10 x Kairic Acolytes (140)
20 x Tzaangors (360)

Units
3 x Tzaangor Skyfires (160)
10 x Forsaken (200)
- Mark of Chaos: Tzeentch

Battalions
Alter-kin Coven (20)
Arcanite Cabal (50)

Total: 1450/2000

Leaves me 550 points for more Tzaangors and Spawn. Thoughts?

>>53296759
None of the players have a curly tail like that.

>>53296784
>>53294112

Not sure how to break it to you guys but GW hasn't given a fuck about highlighting non-plastic models for some time now. How often do you see non-plastics in photos? how often does Duncan use non-plastics for paint guides. etc

You can't even purchase something like say: Yhetees or Rat swarms in store, it's all mail-order now. and if you can't sell it to someone right there in person GW doesn't give two shits.

Expecting rules for those guys? don't hold your breath

In their defense, plastic kits only does cover a lot. Most of the elf flavors of kits are plastic, for example. So unless your army you currently run is mostly resin/metal, you should be able to easily play this game. If not, then if you've been meaning to start a new army this is a great way to get started.

Besides, isn't the remotes points for models just the ghb points divided by the minimum# of models? With that you can easily extrapolate what you need to play chaos dwarfs, for example.

Do the chaos spawn options for Nurgle suck?

>>53297754
You may be able to find an opponent who is fine with it, but technically the warscrolls on both the app and website have been updated to only be Tzeentch marked.

>>53296911

I *don't* want to use resin bullshit. It's why I haven't bought any vampire lords or the like. Was just hoping for some kind of soulblight release...or hell any death besides flesh eater shit.

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Does this game have any tactical depth? Would there be any appreciable difference in how a "skilled" player would pilot the same list compared to an intermediate player?

Sup /aosg/, I want to start Legion of Azghor. R8 my list idea. Am I doing it wrong?

Leaders
>Daemonsmith (100)
- Darkforged Weapon
>Infernal Guard Castellan (120)
- General
- Darkforged Great Weapon
>Infernal Guard Battle Standard (80)

Battleline
>20 x Infernal Guard Fireglaives (200)
- Battleline (Legion of Azgorh)
>20 x Infernal Guard Fireglaives (200)
- Battleline (Legion of Azgorh)
>20 x Infernal Guard Ironsworn (200)
- Battleline (Legion of Azgorh)
>6 x Bull Centaur Renders (320)
- Scalding Great Weapon
- Battleline (Legion of Azgorh)

War Machines
>Iron Daemon (200)
>Iron Daemon (200)
>Skullcracker (240)
>Magma Cannon (140)

Total: 2000/2000

The plan is to form a giant block of fuck you while running at the enemy and shooting them, the charging in to finish everything off.

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>>53298251

The AoS skirmish rules seem pretty neat. I've been looking at sigmarines recently, but I don't want to paint a shit ton of very samey dudes, so this seems like a good solution.

>>53296911
I expect them to want to sell me whatever the fuck they have for sale by whatever means necessary.

As long as they're selling bad resin minis somewhere it doesn't hurt them in any way to let me use them in games. In fact if they want to clear their stocks of that crap they should want to include it as much as possible.

my friend gets a new set of command and allegiance abilities for playing his ogre frostlord guys.
i'm using a demons of nurgle formation but using the standard chaos allegiance. is there another table of bonuses specific to nurgle demons?

>>53299113
They don't want to make the resin, they're doing it because they can't retool everything into plastic right away. The less people buy resin the better for them.

does anyone have a image or pdf of the Tallyband of Nurgle?
i cant find it anywhere.

>>53298632
>>53298632
Short answer is yes.

Long answer is there is a lot more tactical depth than people realize when looking at the rules. The depth comes through play experience. Movement and positioning, and even the random turn order doesn't present itself as tactical depth at first, but as one plays it more they realize there's a lot behind it. Things like manipulating your opponents combat choices and wound allocation are among other things but specifically talked about in the rules. Flanking enemy units provides benefits and tactics even though there are no "flanking bonuses" given in the rules.

Tldr: the depth of tactics in a game are not always directly proportional to the number of pages in the core rulebook

>>53296862
I'd add more skyfires, honestly, it's only 3 shoots per turn in 2k game.

>>53299636
I really was only having them because Alter-Kin Coven needs them. The theme was more "turn as many things into spawn/tzaangors as possible" which is admittedly, not a super competitive goal.
Also there'll still be bolts from the Acolytes and lots of MW from spells and stuff, I thought that might even it out?

>>53299707
It's totally up to you m8, i think you'll surprise your oponent with leaving points for summoning and throwing chaos spawn right into his units.

Also remember that you don't have to pay points for refilling unit with fold reality spell (works on tzaangos on dics because daemon keyword), and bolt of change when shooting on unit that fights with regular tzaangor. You can drink elixir on shaman and get 2D3 of tzaangors back in one hero phase.

About to buy the skeleton horde start collecting box. It will be my first box I was just wondering which of these paint sets will be the best for a death army.

Set 1:Retributor Armour
Imperial Primer
Agrellan Earth
Kantor Blue
Reikland Fleshshade
Ceramite White
Leadbelcher
Mournfang Brown
Averland Sunset
Khorne Red
Drakenhof Nightshade
Zandri Dust
Bugman’s Glow

Set 2:
- Balthasar Gold
- Abaddon Black
- Armageddon Dust
- Macragge Blue
- Agrax Earthshade
- Ceramite White
- Leadbelcher
- Mournfang Brown
- Averland Sunset
- Mephiston Red
- Waaagh! Flesh
- Zandri Dust
- Bugman’s Glow

>Want to do a skirmish warband that is nothing but exalted flamers, flamers and brimstone horrors
I hope I can do this.

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>Mengil's Manflayers' flag as a Slaaneshi Icon for my Diaz Seekers.

Yay or Nay?

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hey guys, ive been reading some of the lore from Old World and it makes me pretty sad (shit was soooo good).

Riddle me this:

Whose decision was it to pull the plug on the old world and erase it entirely? Because you know they could have just destroyed it a little, reshuffled the continents putting everyone scattered across the world, and BAM, new setting w/o erasing everything

>>53300663
yay

>>53300706
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meh

Anybody tried playing Kharadrons yet? How are they?

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>>53300706
rot fliiiiies

Who won the aos skirmish match? Ghouls or humans?

>>53300706
Probably the CEO's, after suggestions from sales and marketing departments. WFB was stagnant, with enormous number of aftermarket models available, and after that failed lawsuit vs Chapterhouse, they realized they can't actually copyright words like Elves, so they had to re-brand the setting.

In all seriousness, as shallow as it is now, I prefer AoS to WFB setting. I know I'm disappointing my 15yo edgy self, but I like the shinebright theme.

>>53300778
BRRRRRRRRT
Your battleline is gone
BRRRRRRRRT
There goes the behemoth too, only now are the faggots getting out of their boats
BRRRRRRRRT
You've been tabled, GG goyim buy a newer army

>>53301127
I find it kinda stupid they only have one battline. Thunderers could be one too

>>53300706
>Whose decision was it to pull the plug on the old world and erase it entirely? Because you know they could have just destroyed it a little, reshuffled the continents putting everyone scattered across the world, and BAM, new setting w/o erasing everything
They wanted a fresh start with a larger setting. One that had a much higher level of creative freedom. The old world was too restrictive for that. It also wouldn't mesh well with the new styles they're going for.

>>53301108
CEOs don't make the decisions about creative. They might approve the plans but a new setting is designed by the creative department.
I know gamers are very fond of blaming the business people for everything but from my experience business people only care about money, not the exact direction of the IP.