Age of Sigmar General /aosg/

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>>53216717

First for Khorne

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>>53216717
First for beastmen

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Here it is, guys. The Klad Barag.

>>53216765
Epic! What stats and abilities will you give it?

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>>53216765

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>>53216670
>show me some evidence
the rules not enough for you?

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>>53216778
I am just using the Carmine Dragon warscroll. This is it reflavored for the model.

>>53216799
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>>53216765
Alri Jared

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oh shit
it works!

>>53216884
Can you do the old and the female one?

>>53216778
I think he said a refluffed stardrake templar?

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>>53216901
they mostly turn out as smeared shit

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>>53216955
This was unexpected

>>53216884
>>53216955
MFW stormcast would actually be cool if the bottom of the masks were bare like batman's mask

>>53216952
That is one of the things I considered for it. The stardrakes ranged abilities fit the Klad Barag's pretty well. However its melee stuff was kindof lacking.

When I built the big hammer, I realized the warscroll needed a really nasty melee attack, and the carmine dragon fits that really well.

>>53216992
>Dwarf shit
We don't take kindly to yer "types" around here... Digger.
Why do you go back home and dig in yer mines boy.

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>>53216717

>>53216473
Where do we get marks on warherds again? Cause that would be pretty awesome. I know there's a warscroll in one of the campaign books but it's not matched play official.

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>>53217012
Why don't you say that to the face of me hammer, beardless?

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>>53216955
>mfw the bodies of chaos mortals lie at your feet

>>53217034
>not matched play official.

I suppose you can take the marks from slaves of darkness in casual game but that issue if just a fucking let down for pick any marks in furry fags

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His face conveys something akin to:
You cheeky cunt, I can't wait to smash your face in

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>>53216988
not by much

it's the uniformity that breaks the magic

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>Wake up
>Not new (Death) releases

WHEN GW? WHEN?!

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>>53216955
These are disturbing as fuck

Would Chaos stormcast have open mouth-plates like these? i think so

>>53217153

>Chaos Samecast

God pls no. Let Chaos be safe

>>53217133
You literally just got one:

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Necromantic-horror-blood-bowl-team-mto-2017

What would be a good greenskinz starting list? I'm likely to purchase some 120 used old orc models, 30 with spear-shield, 30 with choppa-shield, 60 with two weapons. Beyond that and a shaman and a warboss or two, though, I am not sure what to pile on. Spear chukkas?

>>53217190
Gobbos.

Honestly though you have enough to play a game, go play a random 1000 point game and see what works, what you need to add, Then go from there.

>>53217177
>he thinks GW won't one day cave in for that sweet easy CSM autism bux

Chaos tainted Stormcast are unavoidable, they won't arrive soon, but it is simply a matter of when

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>>53216901
I've found a pair that work

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>>53216820
diff ano
what are you trying to demonstrate here?

We all know what people hate, and we all know what people like to play with.

... What army do you like playing AGAINST the most? Why? Is it the cool models? they are fun? They are EZ? ...

I like playing against mono skaven (no sayl etc) because they are not too common and all the things that can go wrong.

>>53216717
Really interesting video on Character sniping.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxrAT8FnGB4&feature=push-u-sub&attr_tag=8YZgfmBvjMxRaBfw-6

>>53217094
In the Bad Times, I had a unified Nurgle force (mortals/beastmen). It would be nice to get the same synergies going between brayherd and marked armies (Deciples of Tzeench, Bloodborne, etc) at some point.

>>53217251
A lot of people are crying for a lot of 40k's rules to be adapted to AoS (like shooting in combat) and I generally disagree with them.

But the one I agree that AoS would benefit from is you cant shoot at characters if another enemy unit is closer. Hero sniping in AoS is a problem I feel.

Otherwise I think 40k rules need to stay in 40k.

>>53217283
If you watch that video you'll realise he's not asking for any 40k rules in AOS

>>53217294
I know. I am just stating what I feel on the subject.

>>53217251
A few of the weapon teams in formations deal with this too. If within 3" or something of an ally battalion unit, damage is moved or the save roll is increased (I don't remember off hand)

I like the ideas behind this guy's discussion for sure. GHB2 should deal with this, I hope.

>>53217246
for some reason GW decided that the bonuses associated with the named KO ports should be tied to a requirement to paint the models in that ports color scheme.

outrage and denial ensued.

in the end it was irrelevant because no one really cares what/if you paint anyways.

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>>53217248
>What army do you like playing AGAINST the most? Why? Is it the cool models? they are fun? They are EZ? ...

Seraphon. I have been Pestilens since i began WHFB and always sought out battles against their eternal enemy the Lizardmen, i both love and hate them.

I enjoy killing them, but i also like the cinematic feel of a hundred or so plague monks surrounding a small host of defiant saurus. they can be cheesy but it's the one army i have no problem with going full WAAC, no restraint needed and i expect nothing less from them.

Also Ironjawz. they don't fuck around and come straight at you. I like that

>>53217207
Oh, I have a pretty decent idea of what to try. But I thought to ask just to see if I'd hear of choices I overlooked.

For now though, I am most convinced that I shouldn't be as focused on army composition combos as I should be on learning the skills relevant to the game. Eyeballing and estimating distances, piling smartly, managing traffic, etc.

>>53217334
this is the reason why i was mostly away when i heard 8e was going to drop.
if faggots could run with something so small and inconsequential and blow it the fuck up then what more can you do

>>53217334
Whether or not one's interpretation of the rules is relevant, it's all a moot point as it is one of those rules that literally nobody will enforce or give a shit about.

I could paint my KO pink and green and say they use barak-thryng rules, and literally no fucks will be given. So people can bitch all they want "b-but you have to paint it required colors" or "its not a real rule" it doesn't matter.

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Thanks to stupid Total War, I like bretonnians but since they don't exist anymore, is there a way of painting empire units to be a homage to them? I was thinking mostly demigryph knights and free guild guard

What is the best logo to use? The grail? The lion with the sword or the fleur de lis?

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>>53217251
vince pushing his own content again

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I love this app

>>53217457
but vince is a cool guy so who cares?
He can shill all he wants.

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>>53217116
every thread

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>>53217473
Me too

anyone know how good any of the ironweld arsenal units are?

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>>53217586
Cannon and organ gun supported by a cogsmith is a mainstay in my army.

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>>53216752
Reposting wip cygor a friend gifted me that I'm working on

>>53217578
Leandros was right

>>53217612
Awesome man! Got an army to go with it?

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>>53217188

>>53217188
wow those are utter shit

>>53217606
ah they look cool. Cogsmith looks great

>>53217633
I do, but I'll have to wait til after work to share. They killed a BCR army yesterday!

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I like sudden spurts of motivation to paint. I only meant to prime him. I guess I'll dick with the base tomorrow then.

>>53217606
>gryphound in artillery

Hmm why is such a universally useful ability so cheap, and why did they make it exclusive to just order.

>>53217927
what ability is it?

>>53217251
The stacking buffs characters provide are too valuable for them to be essentially immortal. Even as it is currently its difficult to dismantle an aetherstrike or mixed kunnin rukk. A Bloodletter bomb always does its work before you get at the general, and the banner, and sayl.

>>53217994
the dog barks if an enemy unit is set up within X inches of it and friendly units within Y of the dog get a free extra round of shooting out of sequence at the set up unit.

>>53217994
Warning Cry: It is said that it is impossible to sneak up on a Gryph-hound. If an enemy unit is set up within 10" of this unit, roll two dice. Any unit within that many inches of the Gryph-hounds is alerted to the enemy unit’s presence, and can attack it with one of its weapons as though it were your shooting phase.

>>53217994
Anytime anything is setup within 10" a hound, so any summon or deepstrike everything in 2d6 inches gets to shoot it.

Its just me or the allegiances (number of models, factions, top armies...) are mostly disbalanced in favor of Order?

>>53218060
Order got 3 fully brand new from scratch armies, and one semi new with repacks army. Destruction got 2 repacks and semi new with repacks. Chaos got a new army, a semi new one and one repack. Death got a repack.

The majority of AoS releases so far have been Stormcast and Khorne.

>>53217915
That crown looks awful like the one in the rumor mill thing

>>53218043
ty thats pretty good unless you roll snake eyes

>>53218333
For 40 pts, its well worth the cost.

I painted him in the paintscheme of my cogsmith and guns because i almost always take him with them. He's the cogsmith's trained pet.

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Soulblight when?

>>53218559
never they're a byproduct army never to be expanded

>>53218607
Very rude and spiteful

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>>53218559

Nighhaunt when?

>>53218559
>there will never be a WHQ where you invade a vampires castle

>>53218559

We need a fucking sigmar inquisition right now and a renegade enlighted vampire in

>>53218630
don't mistake honesty and straightforwardness for rudeness and spite

you too know they were simply a faction GW created when it still didn't decided in what direction to go for the armies but wanted to lump models into monothematic groups

>>53218733
>death faction
>no vampire army at some point
Pretty confident you're wrong sweetie xox

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>>53216778
Tres fantastique! Can we expect painting progress pictures soon?

>>53217208
in the age of end time

do you think they will do anything with the horned rat soon?

>>53219135
It's actually missing one piece. I want to do a pelvic cover, and I am waiting to get a part for that. Then I will start painting him. I will do periodic painting progress pictures at some point.

>>53219235
you mean fluffwise or about the skaven armies?

>>53219256
both

>>53219249
Remember to give him a large codpiece, so he can mock the Baldcast Eunuchials with the rest of the beards.

>>53219317
respectively being bitchboy for nurgle while secretly wanting to become like uncle tzeentch in the future and clans skryre releases

>>53219535
>codpiece
>not a cogpiece

ONE
JOB

>>53219553
wonder what skyre releases would be? Probably something the counter KO.

>>53219583
>counter of KO

Thats gonna be Skyvens lol

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>>53219686
wonder what type of aircraft's they will have maybe zeppelins or pic related

>>53219686
Both probably Skavens are more vicious in their machines than Dwarfs i even expect some kind of crazy bio machine with crazy rats in it

>>53219781 quoting >>53219748

sorry lol

>>53219748
I can see them having big flying rat abominations, like a hellpit but with a few sets of wings stitched on.
also bat rats

>>53219583
they already have stormfiends, the doomwheel and the cannon, in terms of plastic

a larger centerpiece, a basic infantry, an elite infantry and some heroes is what I'm betting on
>drilling rattank troop transport
>arquebusers ragrats (with option for weapon teams)
>power armored iron vermin
>warplock enginseer hero
>iron rat warlord hero
>zrykk brainrat hero

>>53219686
>>53219748

I love this idea of Skyvens unfortunately i dont think GW is gonna make it happen

A friend just bought spire of dawn and I'm buying the elf army from it. Any advice on where to go from here with any elf army? Or do I just put them away until elves get an actual release and focus on my other armies

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>>53220324
frost phoenix or sky cutter

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>>53220324
the Reavers and Swordmasters are "okay". the rest... lets just say you'll have an uphill fight no matter what your opponent brings. good elf things: executioners, phoenix guard, high elf dragon lord, alarielle the radiant, loremaster, frostheart phoenix. you're probably better off waiting till "new elves" drop.

>>53220353
Sky Phoenix.

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>>53217232
>top right

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Aether-Khemist (100)
Celestial Hurricanum With Celestial Battlemage (320)
Anointed Of Asuryan On Frostheart Phoenix (260)
40 x Arkanaut Company (480)
- 12x Light Skyhooks
5 x Liberators (100)
5 x Liberators (100)
5 x Liberators (100)
3 x Kurnoth Hunters (180)
- Greatbows
3 x Kurnoth Hunters (180)
- Greatbows
3 x Kurnoth Hunters (180)
- Greatbows

Total: 2000/2000

>start to think maybe Death isn't so bad.
>spend 5 minutes in scrollbuilder with an order list

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>>53217612
That looks great! I am working on a Ghorgon for my Warherds army.

Does anyone have any suggestions for what I should do next with him? I'm still pretty new but I know that he's prob missing some washes/touch up work, I'm just not sure what exactly to look for.

>>53217788
Please post that! Sounds awesome

>>53221465
The base is the worst part of him, unpainted sand and a really unnatural grass line going straight down it, it's fine to have a mixture of grass and sand but you need to make it look a bit more natural.
You've got a reasonable big area to work with, add some smaller rocks or some sort of other details (I find chunks of cork work great for this)

>>53221568
Yeah the base isnt done yet. I'm planning on repurposing the half rock that comes with the model alongside a couple of normal rocks from the garden.

>>53216717
>point increase for all 9"+ shooting unit

Wanderer will become completely unplayable.

>>53216717
>point increase for all 9"+ shooting unit;
A handful of shooting units are too good so you blanket nerf all shooting units? This is idiotic.

Cavalry needs a buff, make it fucking insane on the charge then mediocre the rest if the time.

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>>53221698
I hope this only applies to the new tome releases, where shooting is horribly undercosted and usually paired with multiple wounds or mortal wound potential.

>>53221796
It's not just Longstrikes and Skyfires. Stormfiends, thundertusks, and hellcannons are not good for the future of this game.

We need rule changes that give the design team room to create new factions and cool special rules without making them too powerful because they can snipe characters easier

>>53221950
No problem nerfing those units points or rule wise. But you can't tell me that Sisters of the Watch are worth 240 points for 10. If you blanket upcost all ranged you will hit things that really don't deserve it.

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So what's /AoSg/ been up to today/this past week? I did some painting at my local GW, haven't finished their bases yet but I'll get to that tonight or tomorrow.
I also played against a Khorne Demon player, my Bastilladon did 15 wounds turn 2 and 9 turn 3 and the game pretty much ended there since the game we were doing I only needed to kill his general. It was pretty anti-climatic so we continued the game for fun.

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>>53222051
>If you blanket upcost all ranged you will hit things that really don't deserve it
100% truth what this person just said

>>53222051
Yup, agreed

Thats why I would prefer to see rule changes instead of blanket point nerfs for all ranged

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>>53222165
I would prefer to see increased points costs on units that need it instead of stupidly increasing the points of every ranged unit with range > 9"

if you change the warscroll people will just use the better warscroll

>>53221950
If you run the numbers for their other weapons Stormfiends need to do 1D3 per model with their flamethrowers for it to be in line. They aren't too cheap they have a broken rule.

Thundetusk could go to 3+ but I don't really think they are absurd compared to the Stonehorns, maybe they're both just too good.
The real problem is the Arrowboyz. Rukk is too cheap, it has low requirements, the effect is too strong. The models themselves are ridiculous at 2 wounds and .75 damage for 10 points each. They stack to 40 and trigger their bonus at just 20 they eat 40 wounds before being reduced in effectiveness.

>>53218559
Source?

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How good is the Legion of Azgorh in AOS? I really like the look of their models but they're expensive as fuck from forge world and if I'm going to invest that much money into them I would want a seriously competitive army.

What are some of their biggest strengths and weaknesses? From what I can see by looking at their stats they're either heavy artillery focused or heavy cavalry focused. The problem that I'm seeing is that they don't seem to excel in either field.

Can someone here help me out with making a decent list with them? I typically run around 1k points since that seems to be the most common lists for my area. I kind of like the Magma Cannon but I think it's a little risky at 160 points, a 1/3 chance at completely wiffing each turn makes it a risky choice unless you have 2-3 of them.

I would also like to mix them with my Warherd bulls but both armies lack a general battleline option which fucking SUCKS since they seem like a good fit for one-another.

Allegiance: Chaos
Daemonsmith (100)
- Darkforged Weapon
20 x Infernal Guard Ironsworn (200)
20 x Infernal Guard Ironsworn (200)
Magma Cannon (140)
Magma Cannon (140)
Iron Daemon (200)

Total: 980/1000

That is the best I can really come up with by just looking at them. Would you do anything differently?

I know theres that one guy on here that keeps posting his WIP of these guys. Are you here now? What advice can you give a semi-new player that wants to get into them?

>>53222277
Id rather see Stormfiends get Warpfire Projectors limited to 1 in 3

Thundertusk should get one of two changes:
1. 3+ instead of 2+, it's far too reliable right now for how much damage it does
2. Reduce the range from 18" to 8" or 12".

Arrowboyz definitely need to cost more than 100 for 10. I would increase their cost to 120 for 10 and increase the cost of the Kunnin Rukk to 140

I would also ban Aetherstrike from all tournament play

>>53221488
I mean I don't have any pictures but rough recap:
Beastmen
1 Malagor
1 Morghur
1 Beastlord
1 Bray Shaman
10 Gors (two weapons)
10 Ungor Raiders
1 Ghorgon

BCR
1 Stonehorn
1 Thundertusk

First turn hilarity as Ungor Raiders moved like 14" and shot at the Stonehorn. Everyone running forward, Ungors were surprisingly not shit (though mostly bad dice rolls on his part I think). Basically MW spam killed most of my dudes. Malagor got Viletide off twice and did like 1-2 damage each time. All the heroes together managed to focus down the thundertusk. Really the ending was the funniest--it came down to the last combat phase during my turn and the Ghorgon managed to kill the Stonehorn. Played it out, if he hadn't, Stonehorn would literally have killed the Ghorgon on his turn of hitting back.

Have to say the MW spam on the BCR is just as stupid and OP as everyone has been bitching about, but we still had fun with the sheer incredulity of it all.

>>53222089
Damn nigga those look baller. Those feathers are dope as fuck.

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>>53222323
Its an army you play because you think they look good. Not because they have spectacular rules.

You need a Castellan in there so you can focus fire shit with 30 fireglaives, with lord of war and his little wound buff they put out like 20 rend-1 damage.

The iron demon looks weak as hell, but the magmas cannons look ok at 3 average damage per shot they're just slow and short range.

As an aside why do so many forgeworld models look like twice eaten vomit?

>>53222443
Thundertusk at 3+ average 4 damage, they take a hit and you're getting 2.3 damage for 340 points. That's why I'm leery of messing with them. I can get Kairos and a LoC for cheaper than two Thundertusk and they crank out like 15-16 mortal wounds between their four spells a turn and can be made to almost never fail.

>>53223052
The difference here is that the Thundertusk can move 8+D6" before shooting while the LOC can't move before casting his spells

It's fine for spells to do mortal wounds because their threat range is easier to play around. Stormfiends and Thundertusks do too much damage, too reliably, from too far away.

>>53223130
Maybe snowball should be an ability in the hero phase on a 2+ then.

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>>53222767
I like the colours, but I should've spent more time on it to get the blending better, since the change of colours is really abrupt.

>>53223257
I would be okay with that

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>>53222323
Ayyyyyyy fellow Chaos Dwarf anon!

Fuck yeah here's my most recent attempt to take a pic in the lightbox. Also please note that I've just now finished the college semester so I'm going to be able to finish this fucking unit finally. I've not played a single game

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>>53216820
>rules not enough for you

Your biased highlight not enough for any GW nor flgs, that's why you can't name one stick to this so call rule.

Dumb question... What made you pick your army, and why? Was if the fluff? Did the models appeal to you? Did you like the crunch?

Some I get the appeal of others I just don't get why someone would want to play / collect, so interested in hearing why someone would go one or the other.

>>53224390
I'm
>>53223592
I Fucking love that these guys are actually genuinely evil fuckers and that they are industry focused. They aren't looking to destroy the world, they are looking to make the world submit to their will and have dominion over all through the use of their machines and Dark engineering. It's pretty badass

Hello i just have a question for /aosg/ what is pestilens state right now? They are ok? They are bad? Should i wait before buy them or not?

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>>53224390
"...He leapt to the top of the bloody heap and raised his sword to the heavens, just as a shaft of moonlight broke through the clouds and poured down over him. Picked out in the spotlight, the grinning prince could be seen for miles around and the knights nearest to him stumbled in confusion. None of them had ever witnessed such a dazzling vision of unholy power.

The column of light resembled the gaze of a god, shining down benevolently on its most beloved child. A glittering mantle of snowflakes surrounded Sigvald as he surveyed his brutish enemies. “AVERT YOUR GAZE!” he cried, his voice ringing out across the battlefield and his eyes blazing with scorn. He turned his sword towards Mord Huk’s knights. “DO NOT PRESUME TO TURN SUCH REPULSIVE FACES IN MY DIRECTION!” To their amazement, whole swathes of the army looked away in shame, humbled by the prince’s words. Others roared in defiance and launched themselves at him, but before they could reach the Geld-Prince, their brother-knights clubbed them to the ground, desperate to protect the glittering prince..."

>>53224424

Wait, did they bring back Chaos Dwarves for AOS?

>>53224670

They have a warscroll and are a legal army in matched play (such as Britannia and Tomb Kangs) they are not even high tier but they are fun to play with/against

>>53224381
>it says that if I clean my room I get a cookie but it doesn't say that if I don't clean my room that I still don't get a cookie. The example says that when Johnny cleaned his room he got a cookie but I am still going to take a cookie without cleaning my room because no one has convinced me that isn't how the rules work.

>>53224522

Reminder that Slaanesh is dead

>>53224390
For me it's mostly the fluff and look of models. The gameplay takes 3rd place in priority because it changes all the time. Metas change, rankings change, rules change, but the look and fluff of your models generally stay the same.

>>53224381
>biased highlight
I think what you meant to say was all the rules pertaining to how to receive the bonuses associated with the named KO skyports quoted in their full entirety.

I really don't care personally what you do or don't paint but at least nut up and take responsibility for your decision not to follow the rules instead of pretending not to understand them.

for crying out loud the example is written simple enough for a five year old to understand.

>"For example, if you paint your miniatures in the blue and yellow livery of Barak-Zilfin, your skyvessles will be swifter and harder to bring down!"

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
this man speaks the truth

>>53224390
I main dispossessed and have side brayherd, and wanderer armies. Fluff for all of them. I've always loved grumpy stubborn dwarfs, and foresty elves. Total war sold me on beastmen being angry poop smearing anarchists.

>>53224390
I am a homosexual and love penis in my anus, so I play stormcast eternals, as they appeal to me and most likely partake in the same homosexual activities that I do.

>>53225472
gr8 b8 m8 i r8 it 8/8

>>53220069
Jeremy Vetock mentioned Skyven were the main adversaries of the KO in his developer video.
Skyven are never actually present in the KO book, so they have had work done on them elsewhere.

>>53225472
I'd pick fyreslayers if I were you. That's what I play

>>53217457
I'm not Vince, just wanted to share a good video about AOS.

>>53217474
but yes Vince is cool

>>53222218
I mean if a unit got changed to handycap them, then somebody told me they were gonna use the old warscroll, i'd give them my biggest ''Your a cunt face''

>>53224777
>because no one has convinced me that isn't how the rules work.

Name one GW/flgs stick to your "paintgate", since your nobody I don't trust u at all.

>>53224929
>five year old to understand
Name one GW/flgs stick to the so called "paintgate", you are old enough to understand my words, right?

I'm not arguing about RAW, because it is bullshit. RAI and how people, the real gaming party handle it, comment opinion from a random nobody in 4chan is meaningless.

>>53227719
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if some stores start enforcing it, since it could help prevent grey tide scenarios

What would you guys think about the solution of 40k 8th edition for avoiding character sniping?

For those that don't know, it makes character with under a certain number of wounds (in 40k it's 10) impossible to target in the shooting phase unless they are the closest target to the shooting unit.

>>53228086
Awful, would make combos unbreakable

>>53227987
>prevent grey tide
That's different from "paintgate", and some store have house rules that, +1 to hit against greytide.

Looking at different stuff to fill out my list and Be'lakor looks like he might be undervalued.

What do think the value of his Dark Master ability is, like what would you pay for it if you could pay points for it alone?

It seems to be the only thing in the game that burn someones turn one alpha strike, and it does it passively.

>>53228086
I have a better idea, if you're firing at a character over half range then they get a look out sir type roll.

>>53216717
What's the purple one in the picture? Is there an undead faction of dorfs? Haven't checked out the overlords yet.

>>53228412
>purple
Amethyst, Shyish, the Realm of Death. This art indicate the profit of all 8 mortal realms, btw Azyr is lower then I expect.

Starting my first army for AoS soon, but can't decide between Ironjawz, Kharadron, or Sylvaneth. Is there a clear winner between the 3? People in my area are a bit competitive, but not super meta (last I checked).

>>53224871
Nice meme

>>53228769
Kharadron is stronger than Sylvaneth is stronger than Jawz. It does however depend on how you build it, Kharadron is only ridiculous if stack the maximum of one type of gun in max size units and keep your ships down to just the ironclad, two frigates, or none at all.

I personally like Sylvaneth because it can still be strong with fluffy looking compositions that have nice mixes of all their units types. They also get battalions that allow a few out faction units for variety without breaking allegiance.

>>53228867
The Kharadron list I mused over for awhile was Admiral, Khemist, 2x 10 Arkanauts (3 volleys in one, 3 skyhooks in the other), 6 Endrinriggers with drill cannons, and a frigate. Would go with Mhornar.

Currently I'm leaning towards Kharadron, but Sylvaneth are aesthetically pleasing.

>>53226251
>Skyven are never actually present in the KO book, so they have had work done on them elsewhere.
Then I guess the Tomb Kings were the Wood Elves main adversary since they were the only army not mentioned in their rule book.

>>53229170
That's not the logic being used there at all.

>>53222443
Completely agree, sky fires and kurnoth hunters are too low also.
What's aetherstrike?

>>53224390
Well, Mostly because they are my old WHFB army, and there is still no AoS army that really caught my eye.

That said I play High Elves for 3 reasons:
1.I like their aesthetic
2.I had a partner to buy the IB
3.I read the sundering triology and quite liked

Sadly years after barring the 2nd hand minis I got I still havent painted them as I am horryfied of ruining the minis since I suck at it

>>53229204
It really is, since as the Wood Elf book shows the Beastmen are their main nemesis, the KO book goes out of their way to say the Grots are theirs.

But one guy says "Popular faction is nemesis" on camera in a hype event, and the rats insist THAT MEANS WE ARE THE MAIN NEMESIS GUYS, ALTHOUGH WE HAVE LITERALLY ONE SENTENCE IN THE ENTIRE BOOK THAT DOESN'T EVEN NAME US DIRECTLY.

>>53229443
>It really is

It's not because no one ever mentioned Tomb Kings being the Wood Elves nemesis.

>But one guy says

The lead designer of a faction isn't just a guy.

Regardless of whatever may considered their main enemy, it's safe to say that both skaven and grots would follow their ancestral foes to the skies. I look forward to both. Would only play the grots though. Fuck shitty rats.

Looking to play a fairly low model count army, I'm thinking a monster mash sylvaneth with alarielle. What are some other choices apart from BCR?

>>53229633
Seraphon and big dinos or FEC without ghouls

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I just got in with these and wanted to know what units I should pick up next while I am painting these to round out the army.

>>53228086
Wrong.
Snipers will finally be usable.
Also, preferred enemy now is for sniping characters as well.

Units will have to fire at the closest, but other characters/models can pick them out. So my Leman Russ or Inquisitor can choose any target.
My guard will have to fire at units if close than the character.

>>53229878
good idea to get another treelord, i bought that box again for the value of it. Also, recommend Tree/Spite Revenants and Kurnoth Hunters. Maybe Drycha too since she can go ham.

>>53229298
>What's aetherstrike?
Its a stormcast battalion that, when played well, has virtually no counters.

Is there any reason why the fantasy lexi is outdated. Would there be any way to convince some of you guys to help update it?

>>53227719
why should you trust anyone when you can just read the rules yourself >>53216820

>>53229878

buy woods

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Here is one of the warbands for Warhammer Live this Wednesday to play the new AoS Skirmish rules

>>53230337
WHFB is different from AoS.
Just start a new one for AoS fluff only

>>53227719

>RAI
best answer to this is the example GW wrote for the rule:
"For example, if you paint your miniatures in the blue and yellow livery of Barak-Zilfin, your skyvessles will be swifter and harder to bring down!"

>how people, the real gaming party handle it

I doubt anyone will care what you do or don't paint, I doubt anyone is going to expect you to follow the rule

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>>53229443
>you will never be this asspained over fictional rats that don't even 'exist' yet

>>53230337
They are the same meta setting.

Theres also the wikia for age of sigmar but I dont like wikia.

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>>53230473
fug, that looks pretty sweet

>>53229878
>>53229949
I'm not sure about this anon saying another treelord, most lists run one treelord ancient and not much else. Larger 2000 / 2500 point games might have a spirit of durthu around too but if you're just starting I'd focus on 1000.

Tree revenants give you some mobility outside woods, so can come in from behind to aim for enemy wizards and such. Kurnoth hunters are your big damage dealers, whether ranged or melee, so grab they're probably a good next step as well.
Past that it depends how you want to build your army. There's quite a few fun battalions sylvaneth can do so have a look in the codex and see what interests you.

Also as >>53230432 said grab woods if your local FLGS doesn't have some you can borrow

>>53230646
>implying it isn't Skaven players that cause the asspain.

They really are worse than Elf players nowadays.

>>53230836
Thanks, the hunters do look cool. Are they expensive

>>53230531
>anyone

I'm not asking your opinion, nor express mine. I'm looking for the facts, from GW or general gaming party, u don't need to care about me, because no one care about nobody like u and me.

Show me the facts from GW or flgs.

>>53230400
>why should you trust anyone

I don't play the game alone nor a closed gaming environment.

Do you think GH2 is far enough out for Khemists to get nerfed or will they continue to ruin the game for another year +?

>>53230964
180 points atm, may well increase I'm GHB 2 but it's all speculation. If you mean cost, they're not too bad, considering the models are quite large and detailed. £26~ from a discount website

>>53231091
>Show me the facts from GW
facts right here >>53216820 strait out of the KO battletome

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>>53231091
>Show me the facts from GW

How are rotbringers and where should I get started?

>>53230473
Normal humans confirmed supported by gw

>>53222282
Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust. The film is standalone, but is from Book 3 of the series of the same name.

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>>53231091
>>53227719
>Dismisses everyone on 4chan as a 'nobody'
>Relies on said nobodies for facts and sources

Why are you so mad that random fuckers on /tg/ disagree with your interpretation of the rules?

>>53229878
20x dryads
treelord ancient
6 kurnoths
that takes you to 1k and builds towards a Gnarlroot Wargrove.

>>53231195
They could change them to one per army, that's what it would take anyway. They screwed up on design when they made such powerful single attack profiles.

>>53231967
They have two list that good.
Blightguard - Sorcerer, Lord of Plagues, 4 Blightkings.
Plaguetouched Warband - 7 total of nurgle mortals, you want to include a group of 28 chaos warriors or several groups of 28 Marauders.
Fill them out with Blightkings, Chaos Warriors, the Chaos Warshrine, Chaos Sorcerer Lord, or Bloab Rotspawned. Decide whether you want to run Harbinger or Glottkin as the general, you can also run both with the 320 point Archaon. Sayl is also a nice include.

>>53232664
>mad that random fuckers

Mad? I just stating the fact, I don't care about their opinion, so as your "accusation". All I care is, how GW/flgs handle these so called" paintgate".

Care to find out the answer, instead of being another nobody?

>>53231468
>facts from GW
>>53231350

Biased material to support a nobody opinion? Show me how gw/flgs handle such "paintgate" instead.

>>53220069
>>53219748
>>53219781
I'd kinda like a WW1 analogy greenskin flipout with stahlhelm-wearing weirdboys in spiky, bright red junkmetal deff skwadron suicide fighters, and gobbos in agile wood-framed crappers that burst into flames on a 1 on any roll at all.

>>53233106
>Biased material
the pages from the rules are "biased material"?

lmfao you're a joke.

>>53233216
>lmfao you're a joke

Ignoring other page is biased. Anyway, care to dig the answer instead pretending somebody on 4chan?

Hey uh, guys, what happened to black orcs?

>>53233422
They're just called Ironjawz now, they have their own faction.

>>53233448
O-oh.

Those guys are fucking boring. But at least I can use the old models in their stead... right?

>>53222323

I picked up LoA as my second army, and have put them on the table around three times, and managed to pull out a victory two of those times, although during one of the games I had a slight point handicap.

Like this >>53222890 anon said, they aren't the most competitive choice of army, but they are workable in a casual play environment. Against hordes with low bravery, the Deathshrieker rocket launcher with it's -1 to the target's bravery has done me extremely well.

>>53233422
We cant call them black now. It's racist

>>53232700
This seems so powerful for 1k points. How KO can beat that ?

>>53233481
Old Black Orks already are the Ardboyz models.

>>53233373
whatever. you wanted the rules pointed out to you. I pointed them out. Now you're being intentionally obtuse about it because you don't like what the rules say. Do what you like buddy, no one gives a shit.

>>53233561
W-what? Really? The images on the GW site looked like complete crash test bumblefucks. I guess I should look closer...

>>53233532
Sylvaneth has one of the more powerful 1k list yeah. KO doesn't have to go into the trees and eat awaken spam, and the -2 rend from skyhooks reduces the saves on Kurnoths to 30% damage reduction, or 55% in cover. You would need a 40 arkanaut company with skyhooks and a khemist.

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>>53233596
not that guy but there is this (pic) but its clearly not related because its just saying you don't have to paint you minis in any way you don't want to, and that doesn't conflict with these >>53231468 where you are rewarded for painting your minis in a certain way should you choose to.

>>53233639
Even in the gallery pics of jawz on the gw website they look about 1000 times better painted black. No one knows why they went with that stupid bright yellow as their "official" coloring.

>>53233373
just curious have you found anything from GW about the KO painting rules, other than what is in the codex? looks to me like the RAI is that you have to paint you dudes to get the bonuses but that seems really stupid.

>>53233596
>you wanted the rules pointed out to you
I repeat so many time that, all I want is how GW/flgs handle these line.

>>53234012
>found anything from GW
No GW at my city, but all flgs I can contact IRL and via FB do not care about the so called "paintgate", however anyone must stick to one port in tournament, that is reasonable

>>53234129
>however anyone must stick to one port in tournament, that is reasonable
why? if the "paintgate" is bullshit why do you have to stick to just one?

>>53234129
Even in this stupid image it says may determine rules which implies its an optional rule. This shit is just trolling at this point.
>>53216820

Reminder that we can argue all we want about 'paintgate', but it's all moot because literally nobody will contest you for doing your own paint scheme and saying you are using one of the skyports for rules.

No flgs will do it. No GW store will do it. No tournament or event will do it. Not even warhammer world is going to do it.

>>53234236
>why do you have to stick to just one?
Most tournament organizers assume u stick to certain allegiance, items, command traits...etc. And the so called "paintgate" mean yellow and blue for one set of rule only, no variety allow.

>>53234236

Because enforcing sticking to one port during the course of a tournament is the only reasonable way to ignore the "paintgate". That's the only point of the entire fucking thing.
You should, in a tournament setting, not be able to play mhornar against one, and zilfin against the next opponent just because zilfin would suddenly be better.
You can achieve this in 2 ways: paint gate, or by saying "paint them however you want, but note your port on your list and stick to it, or you're out".
Needless to say, the second option is vastly preferable to the first.

>>53234303
>trolling at this point
Anyway, I removed my mega library and won't provide new resource until I feel alright about /aosg/, good luck anons, God bless your country.

If you don't have to paint your dudes in the port's colors to get the port's bonuses then where in the rules does it explain how you get the bonuses?

The only reference I can find is the second page of this >>53231468 where it says you can get the bonuses by painting them the right colors. No alternate way of obtaining the bonuses is even mentioned so far as I can tell.

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>>53217457
Who's Vince?

>>53234414
You're a stupid and easily offended faggot, slavanon. Every time someone hurts your feefees you 'take down your mega library' but it either comes back up or it's been mirrored. Learn how to speak English and maybe you'll get more respectful responses.

>>53233717
Thanks anon, i'm struggling between KO & sylv for my next project. Both seems nice on table and rulewise but sylv seems very strong in melee & range...

>>53234414
Wow. What a bitch.

People disagree with you and call you out on your bullshit, and you're all "FINE well im taking down my resource, so there, MYEAH!"

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>>53234414
lmfao

>>53234565
I think they're balanced, they have dirty stuff like a loremaster with durthu kitted as 2+ rerolling ignore rend, or a Hurricanum with 12 Kurnoth bows. But that stuff exist in a world where I can get 30 Bloodletters with 60 attacks dealing mortal wounds on a 4+ charging 24" across the board on turn one for 580 points.

>>53230871
Idk man how many times have you seen a skaven player complain about them not having any recent releases?

>>53234832
honestly? about as often as death, goblins, elves and freeguild.

people want stuff for the armies they like. Not really a big deal.

>>53234885
When the hell have you seen goblin, skaven or free guild player post in every thread that there isn't a new release for their faction

>>53234935
>implying there is anything wrong with posting in a thread that you would like new stuff for your faction

agree to disagree?

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>>53216820
Is this that aelf-fag that got BTFO'd a couple of weeks ago? Anyone have that screencap?

Either way, your autistic persistence is admirable.

How's it feel being the only one to stand against the rational whole? To trumpet loudly to all who don't give a shit about your moot point? Have you not grasped the impotence of your outcries on an image board? It's becoming sad watching you flail against the currents of the real world. But keep railing on that keyboard in your cave, while rational human beings will go outside and roll dice with other rational human beings.

>>53235152
no, but I liked the pic enough to save it.

>>53234935

He probably just trolling skaven and freeguilds specially the last one are fucking worlds away compared to death and aelfs fags and their every thread shit.

>>53234989
>Is wrong every fucking thread?

Yes, it is. As much as the troll of KO and the paint rules useless discussion

>>53233106
>>53233373

Fucking hell.

/Aosg/ really drags up the most autistic fuckwits.

Reading these posts makes me cringe but also chuckle, so i dunno how i feel

>>53234806
Yeah, not OP but well rounded. KO are more a glass cannon then. Need to sleep on it i think. Thanks again anon

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What if they release shadow elves and light elves at the same time

>>53236156
The elf plays will still whine that they're not the "right" kind of elves and the rest of us will get on with our lives.

>>53236156

Elf orgasm over 9999


Nah... They are just complain about some other shit and fill the thread with that

>>53234989
It's different when it happens again and again and again every thread for the past year. Everyone is telling you to stop. Just. Stop.

>>53234832
There is nothing wrong with complaining about not having a recent release. I complained about the lack of dwarfs because fyreslayers don't actually exist, but when you see someone get something new, it is only the Skaven that insist they should get the exact same thing.

It used to be Elves that done that, even with other Elf factions. I remember the rage from High Elf players when Wood Elves got magic arrows in their last book, saying how they should get the same thing, as well as army wide armour piercing to make it fair.

Hello /AoSG/ I have a question/hypothesis: With Slaanesh out of the picture (possibly temporary) is there any chance for Malal/Malice to make his appearance?

>>53237645
From what I understand someone else owns the rights to Malal after a less than amicable split. I'd assume not.

>>53237645
Stop asking about this stupid meme character.

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>>53236156
>What if they release shadow elves and light elves at the same time

frankly ill take either since I plan to buy both anyways

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>>53216717
i remember when Khorgoraths were like $4.30on ebay. Now they're $$$ :(

>>53232361
you da man, thanks.

>>53240358
>selling minis ever
I regret selling anything I ever owned.
I miss my old armies, and had a lot of OOP shit that I miss as well.

>>53240507
>OOP

wat dis meen?

>>53240642
out of production

>>53217606
Where's the smith's chestpiece from? Looks dope

>>53241272
It's the front gun mount from the gyrocopter kit. The little plate that the steamgun or clatter gun mounts on.

>>53232992
Thanks. I keep looking at the models and they make me feel physically ill.

>>53241406
YEEEES

FEEL GRANDFATHER NURGLE'S EMBRACE

>>53218733
>>53218854

>know they were simply a faction GW created when it still didn't decided in what direction to go for the armies

(You).. didn't play WHFB or read any of the background stuff, did ya?

>>53244946
He meant the faction in AoS, not actual vampire counts. I have a feeling GW really wishes it didn't split the races into dozen factions, esp. the Death.

>>53244946
Hes talking about the new subfaction divisions that happened during the conversion to aos. Soulblight is effectively just the Vampire Lord, Coven Throne, and Bloodknights, which aren't even a real unit since 99% of people convert them. They had FEC cannibalize the Vargheist and Zombie Dragon. Vampire Counts in a dustbin for dead models.

Vampires still exist obviously since Fyreslayers are fighting them in some fluff in their battletome, but they are likely going to be deep in line for any releases or re-imaginings. The next thing death gets if the shadow elves or whatever aren't in death will likely be new Deathlords.

>>53245000
>. I have a feeling GW really wishes it didn't split the races into dozen factions, esp. the Death.
since everything is a free pdf now they can just change it on a whim whenever they want.

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>>53234935
RAT TANK!!!!!

>>53245451
Jeez, would be awesome to field a behemoth like this. Good shooting, 2+overpower with massive fails consequences, maybe auto-repair or new warplock engineer to go with it

>>53245036
They were doing stuff like uniting tomb kings with deathrattle. I wouldn't be surprised if they were planning on doing something similar for the other minifactions.

>>53231195
They really need to add a Ro1 about ability stacking, aether khemists are absurd

Are there any decent quality podcasts for AoS? I'm obsessed and forums outside this general can't satisfy me.

>>53246246
9th realm is pretty good

Its on youtube as well

Help, I want a destruction army but I can't decide which. Only one I can really rule out is BCR.

How annoying are the skydwarves to play against? I'd like to start them, but as a death player since 6th I alway hated pure shooty armies, despite them never being actually really good.

>>53246279
Low or high model count? Or, how patient are you with painting

>>53246311
they're OP, they are the easy as hell to one drop, they can create 40k esque death stars and their battleline units are artillery units with min 10 max 40 wounds ( people tend to run them 30+ models).

Cool army ruined by power gaming arseholes and bad game design. They're what Eldar was to 40k 7th.

>>53246521
People run 30 of these mortar guys (thunderers?)? Without conversions this is expensive as fucking hell, isn't it? Well I guess I'll stay away from them until the GHB2 drops.

>>53246510

I don't mind model count, but being easy to paint would be a bonus.

>>53246556
I was talking about the company, people run them in 30 or 40 models, with pikes and skyhooks.

>>53245451
They look like babies. BABIES!

>>53246606
Ok, thanks for the answers. I just read the 1d4chan tactics page, and the mortar guys were recommended there.

>>53246246
Warhammer weekly

>>53246635
Don't takethe 1d4chan tactics page too seriously. Lot of those tacticas are written by people who admit that they don't the play the faction or even the game.

>Also coming is a new Soulblight Necorpolis Battle Mat (4 x 4 again) and a Sigmarite Mausoleum, £50, is two Garden of Morrs combined.

>>53246960
Wat

New Skaven player here. I've been building my army, and I think I've got a solid foundation going. Now I'm looking at getting some kind of big, flashy unit and I can't decide between Thanquol or a Verminlord of some variety. Looks-wise I like them roughly equally, so I was wondering what would be the best option for semi-competitive games.

As a side question, how good are Hell-Pit Abominations in AoS? I've always liked the model, but I seem to hardly ever see anyone use them.

>>53246279
Do spidergrots!

>>53247012
Looking at the warscroll I would say that it is a pretty decent behemoth, so if you like it, then go for it.

>>53247012
I proxy Boneripper without Thanquol and some handswaps as a Hell Pit, since I prefer the miniature and he looks better in my Skryre themed force.

What's the rest of your force like?

>>53247117
Current model total is 80 clanrats, 40 monks, a Screaming Bell, Warp Lightning Cannon, 4 rat ogres, 2 warlords, 2 warlock engineers, a plague priest, a ratling gun, warpfire thrower, poison wind mortar, along with some packmasters and giant rats. Looking to grab a box of Stormfriends and Stormvermin before getting whatever Big Guy I end up choosing, to round everything out. I haven't really sat down to put it into a coherent list yet.

>>53247244
Get a vermin lord
You can use him with your monks or run as a warbringer for your clanrats etc.
Hes more flexible for future armies.

>>53246279
I heartily recommend Moonclan Grots. Amaze and entertain your friends with a grot warbosses, general being with moon-cuttas, battle brew, bellowing tyrant and a great deal of moxie. Zip around with your destro move and hunt for those 6's, see how many wounds you can pop in a single combat.

>>53247012
>As a side question, how good are Hell-Pit Abominations in AoS? I've always liked the model, but I seem to hardly ever see anyone use them.

I play Moulder and think they are awful for the 300 pts price tag, especially when Stormfiends exist. if they were 260 or so i'd be happier

we need the GHB2 to fix this, and really the entire Moulder line needs points / warscroll fixing

>>53247399
They need to change Stormfiends equipment options to be closer to the box. 3 Projector fiends is just ludicrous.

And comparing every other 200+ Skaven unit is not totally fair since Stormfiends are so strong right now that the question will always be: 'Why are you using those 200+ points for something else than Stormfiends"

>>53247266

Wouldn't a combat-focused moonclan warboss be really fragile? They're only 4 wounds!

>>53247861
>They need to change Stormfiends equipment options to be closer to the box. 3 Projector fiends is just ludicrous.
Agreed

Limit projectors to 1 in 3

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>>53247886
If you can take the moon prodder and squig version it can be very strong, although unreliable as any moonclan unit, especcially with the possible d6 damage of the squig.

And, if you have an heavy hitter units such as an unit of fellwater troggoths or a giant, you can sneak him on one side for a bunch of extra wounds.

And it's missiles weapons are fairly good.

Or you can just use him as a buff for your big unit of spearmen, best if 40+.

>>53247861
>And comparing every other 200+ Skaven unit is not totally fair

True. but the Hellpit is still really crap for 300.

A Shitty 2d6 movement only 12 wounds and a basically useless 5+ save let it down hard. Only upside is decent melee and it heals d3 wounds.

The "Too horrible to die" ability shouldn't be factored into the cost since it's totally random and unlikely but clearly it is. If the Hellpit ALWAYS got back up with d6 wounds upon it's first death then sure.

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Age of Sigmar Skirmish Pre-Orders May 20th, Release May 27
Age of Sigmar Skirmish Rulebook £ 6.00
New rules small-scale gaming

Khorne Bloodbound Frenzied Goretribe £ 40.00
Skirmish Team

Flesh Eater Court Nightfeast Hunters £ 40.00
Skirmish Team

Ironjawz Weirdnob Warband £ 40.00
Skirmish Team

Stormcast Eternal Hammerstrike Brethren £ 40.00
Skirmish Team


Scenery: Pre-Orders May 20th, Released June 3rd
Battle Mat: Soulblight Necropolis £ 50.00
Citadel Scenery-Battle Mat with grave yard print

Sigmarite Mausoleum £ 50.00
Citadel Scenery- 2x Garden of Morr set

>Soulblight Necropolis £ 50.00
>Soulblight Necropolis
DEATH COMING SOON

>>53248313
WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THIS INFO I MUST FIND IT

>>53248353

http://natfka.blogspot.ca/2017/05/this-weeks-pre-orders-aos-skirmish.html

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>>53248313

>Soulblight
>Not Nighthaunt

Well at least is something of Death i expect great models

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>>53248313
Post vampires in celebration

>>53248313
Each of the 4 faction boxes is the main dudes of that grand alliance.
>Khorne
>FEC
>Ironjawz
>Stormcast

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>>53248410
Vampires ftw

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Glorious Bretonnian Knight Witchsmeller Accusant, Itinerant Arbiter of the Unliving God.

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>>53248496

>>53248496

Amazing work i love that base and that details of gore and blood

>>53248468
>>53248410
people play soulblight?

Post your armies i can't imagine what they look like

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>>53248313
>>53248496
Lady Rizla of the Broken Coast, mistress of the Abyssal Cult, shown here with 2 of her attendants, raised from the ruins of the Tzt'cotol, or the Temple of the Abyss.

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>>53248468
Oi, thats a good on' me lord!

>>53246246
I like the 9th realm. Done by the guys who run the ITC, and they are pretty passionate about the game. It's a podcast from a tournament organizers perspective

>>53230964
You want a treelord ancient (made from your treelord,) 10 tree revenants, another box of dryads for 1k.

Here's what I run.

Sylvaneth, 1000.
++ Gnarl Root Wargrove 80pts ++

++ Household 20pts ++
> Treelord ancient 300
> Branchwych 100
> 10 tree revenants 200

> Kurnoth Hunters w/ scythes x3 180
> Dryads x10 120

Gnarlroot has some sweet bonuses and you can include any ORDER WIZARD like sisters of the thorn or a celestial hurricanum or even a slaan.

It comes with 2 buffs.

>Any Gnarlroot Wargrove Treelord Ancient, Branchwraith or Branchwych can cast one extra spell and unbind an extra spell.

>Each Gnarlroot Wargrove Wizard knows the following spell: Verdurous Harmony cast value 7, select friendly SYLVANETH unit within 18" One model in that unit that has been slain earlier during the battle is returned to life. Return d3 models to the unit if they are Dryads or Tree Revenants instead.

Usse Silent Communion in the herophase with your Treelord, while also casting Regrowth on himself and Verduous Harmony on the Kurnoth Hunters.

Branchwych hides behind Dryads and hides in a sylvaneth wyldwood you move around using Treesong, while casting Mystic Shield on your dryads.

Tree Revenants BAMF behind your enemies lines ontto their table edge and assault any ranged or artillery units he has.

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>>53248468
>mfw Soulblight are top tier

>>53249006
Treelord should take either the Briarsheath (-1 to hit for all rolls made by enemy units) or Oaken Armour (+1 to save results), or Moonstone of Hidden ways (teleport anywhere outside of 4" of enemy models. This counts as him moving. he can still charge.) and the spell Regrowth.

Branchwych takes the spell Treesong (moves wyldwoods and any units wholly inside them 2d6,) Seed of rebirth (First time they die, instead return them to life with D3 wounds) or Acorn of Ages (set up a wyldwood within 5" once per game) or Ranu's Lamentiri (Add 2 to the casting role of deepwood lore spells, and 1 to every other.)

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>>53247244

>>53248106
>>53247886
For certain they're fragile, but they are also fun. And 80 points. A glass cannon, if you will, but a highly mobile one that can snipe a charge through some tight spots to splatter someone else's precious character.

That reminds me, I wonder why I noted bellowing tyrant in there. Brew's 'nough already.

So how's Empire... or well... "Freeguild", these days?

Also, while there's a lively model resale scene around where I live in, it seems no-one ever sells their Empire stuff. Is there something just so loyalty-inspiring about huge pants, codpieces and mustachios?

>>53249782
They are actually pretty decent. When taken in their battalion and with the general on horse, they have some really potent shooting. Reecius took them to Adepticon and did rather well.

>>53249649
If you put the warboss close enough to an unity of spearmen those 40ish attacks 4+/2+/-/1 with double damage on a 4+ are gonna be quite scary.

Especially against a big monster unit.

Given that they survive the encounter...

>>53249866
Anything that can get at least 24" 4+/3+ -1 1 damage shooting at 15 points per shot or better is going to be aces at tournaments. That means bring 4 cannons.

What books have normal human doods doing things?

>>53251297
None yet, but one is being written.

>>53251297
Doesn't City of secrets have some?

>>53251347
What about city of secrets? Isn't that a normal witch hunter hunting tzeenchies?

>>53251390
I haven't read it, but that's what I've heard it is.

>>53249866
>>53251122
Not sure I follow. Freeguilders don't have cannons... do they?

>>53251665
They do with ironweld arsenal. But they are pretty good even without them.

>>53251693
I read a bit on the buggers and now I'm just mystified. With a general around, you'll gladly have louts of handgunners firing at 16 2+ 2+ - 1, up to three units per general. And that marksman with 30" range, damage 2 firing at +1 +2?

>>53252303
Units always fail hit and wound rolls of 1 so 2+/2+ is the max, but yes handgunners can get there if they don't move with buffs.

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>>53249782
Since Samecast came out I have noticed this as well.
An empire greatsword has more personality in his codpiece than an entire army of Samecast Eternals

>>53234806
How exactly does that bloodletter combo work?