PRIMARIS SPACE MARINES

>>53250210
Meanwhile, Orks are stuck with Gorkamorka-era models, Aspect Warriors are Finecast, and Chaos only have a single modern unit for their Cult troops.

But hey, more Space Marines! Just what we all asked for.

>>53250261
At least boltguns have a more modern take on them with the rail and scope. The mechanicus must've been keeping all the 21st century tech hidden until now.

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The primadonas

>>53250261
>single modern unit for their Cult troops.
Soon they'll have 2.

>>53250210
Not gonna lie. These look sweet.

>>53250381
If they were truly modern, the scope would be on the rails instead of stamped onto metal. That way the marines could trade the scope for different optics allowing for more customization of your miniatures, but nope GW missed that opportunity.

>>53250479
And three, if Angron is anything to go by. Probably four.

And they also confirmed new CSM units in the FAQ.

((((((Enhanced gene-seed))))))

>>53250210
Paint them gold with blue trim and lightning bolts.

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>they have that fucking aquilla even though the teaser pod versions didn't have it

now I gotta spend hours shaving off that shit
give me a break here

>>53250210
Dumb question here, if rowboat os.able to forge new gene seed why dont he share this secrets with the other chapters, especially with thodlse who struggle with theire geneseed eg. Blood marines?

They sure as fuck look a lot more aesthetically pleasing than the regular space marines.

>>53250642
Phone poster here, shame on me

I have to admit the model looks nice.

I just wish it was a remodel of the old SM models instead of new marines even better/faster/stronger/mary suer/whatever

>>53250210
finally some tacticool bolters

>>53250634
Well nvm the new boltgun looks great. Looks like you can out the scope there or something else.

>>53250673
Raccoon Garbageman been cumming in everyone elses marine geneseed so other chapters will raise his sons for him.

>>53250642
In the trailer will your spiritual liege announces his plan to create new space marines. He said that they would bring rebirth to chapters that were dead or close to being wiped out, and relief to those still alive.

While the Codex is t out yet I presume the new Primaris Marines are going to every chapter because why not he just declared a crusade.

>>53250710
>And this son is how the cuckmarines where born

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>>53250210
>Mk X armor
What happened to Mk IX!?

>>53250642
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/15/a-new-breed-of-hero-may15gw-homepage-post-1/
>Though they are a step removed from their brothers, the Primaris Space Marines still bear the gene-seed of their Primarchs, and some dissenting voices worry how this new type of warrior will react with the known genetic quirks and flaws of some of the more unusual Chapters…

>>53250642
Rowboat didn't. He just ordered them. Camel has been working on these guys for 10,000 years. They're just now ready. Or perhaps they've been ready for a while and someone with enough authority showed up to demand their production.

Also they are being shared with the other loyal chapters. Read the articles on Warhammer Community. You can have Space Wolves Primaris marines or whatever if you want.

>>53250765
Lost in the warp like the 4th sohere of expansion of course! That thought did occur to me too.

Okay guys let's be rational for a moment.
One one hand they are sturdier veterans (but I'd take rubrics any day of the week) whose bolters have 6" longer reach and -1ap.

That's great and all, but they cost more, their squads are smaller and can't carry special nor heavy weaponry.
In the rubric datasheet we saw the options for different equipment, so if GW aren't being total asses and giving us a false datasheet, I assume that Primaris Marines Interceptors or however the fuck they have called them will be limited to 5man squads of -1 ap dakka and 2 attacks.

Now, not having special weapons really makes me think about the viability of playing them instead of a 10man tac squad with meltas or plasmas. I would take 3-5 s7 ap-4 shots before 10 s4 ap-1 shots in most situations. Besides, they cannot have dedicated tankhunting equipment and the lack of dakka can be compensated by giving heavy bolters to the regular tacticals.

Maybe the Primaris Marine sergeants will be allowed to take special weaponry, but still, with the overhaul of combiweapons, regular marine sergeants get much more scary.

Thoughts?

>Imperium get new super models and story progression
>other factions get nothing

I m this close to quiting 40K and going AoS where everyone gets a chance t shine.

>>53250784
>Camel
Cawl

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>>53250799
Ok idk why the image didn't upload.

>>53250210
Man, if standard Marines are 6'6" on average, how ridiculously huge are these fuckers? Or are we retconning shit now, so that Space Marines are just a little taller than normal and Primadonnas are what was once standard Marine size?

>>53250784
>hey're just now ready. Or perhaps they've been ready for a while and someone with enough authority showed up to demand their production.
Two years ago GW was ramping up to SIGMAR the whole 40K universe, these indominus marines were going to be the Guillicast Ultraternals. But when they saw the Fantasy backlash they pulled back the timeline/scale and just made the new guys """reinforcements""", you don't really *neeeeed* to buy them, but you'll want to, that is, unless you like playing with your old small guys, that's cool i guess, whatever kid.

>>53250210
The model looks great, but I don't understand why it exists.

>>53250799
The cost of having 3-5 special weapons in a regular space marine squad is probably going to cost way more than the difference between having the numarines

>>53250210
>mk10 armor
where the fuck is mk9 then?

>>53250864
3-5 shots, not 5 weapons.

>>53250802
Chaos gets daemon primarch, new cultists and plague marines.

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>Humanity will reclaim the stars

Hahahahahahaha.....no. Get fucked Girlyman.
Your new SPESS MAHREENS won't stop the Crimson Path.

Team Chaos all the way.

>>53250802
>AoS where everyone gets a chance t shine

You mean where Eternals and Chaos get multiple chances to shine?

>>53250799
Wtf seriously no special weapons?

>>53250802
>Everyone gets a chance to shine

NOOOOOPE.

Its basically just Ground Marines, Khorne and Tzeentch, plus new factions added. Old factions get nothing except brief mentions saying Jimminy Jilikers while Sigmarines or Khorne do stuff.

>>53250799
If you look at the "power level" they cost six. Tacs are 5 and Rubrics are 8. It looks like the premium for these guys isn't going to be huge.

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>>53250802
so true

>>53250845
>>53250845
They be uge mun.

Coming soon!

Land Raider Primaris
Rhino Primaris
Etc Primaris

>>53250210
Seriously, couldn't they make these guys a bit more distinguishable from regular marines in terms of appearance? This reeks of laziness.

>>53250885
>Windows 10

Where the fuck is Windows 9 then?

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>>53250931

>>53250914
>Orruks got two great releases
>Duadrin dwarfs got two fabulous releases
>Death got one release
>Chaos got two releases
>Stormcast got 2 releases

Everyone but Death got an equal level of presentation and releases.

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>>53250859
To sell.

Its Space Marines, with a new hat.

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Just wait until this sumbitch gets his hands on some nuMarines.

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>>53250802
Eldar isn't imperium anon

>>53250942
I would prefer to see points to get a better estimation. My guess is that Primaris are going to cost around 18-19 points.

Plus if you're playing by power you don't have to pay for special weapons because muh narrative, so I would still stay with 10 power points 10 man tac squad with plasmagun, plasmacannon and combiplasma.

>>53250802
Chaos are getting a huge new release with 8th, focusing on Nurgle forces.

https://youtu.be/BceinBiT9jQ

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>>53250932
>Old factions get nothing except brief mentions saying

The old models of the Ghouls and Savage Orcs were repurposed to be their own unique AoS armies.

>>53250982
Praise the emperor tacticool plasmaguns!

>>53250982
>>53250931
They're going to organize these guys like Heresy Era Marines. The basic units will have nothing but Bolt Rifles. Then there will be "Tactical Support" units of them that all have the same special weapon. And "Heavy Support" units with all the same heavy weapon.

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>>53250995
Not yet.

>>53250982
>they have improved plasmaguns

well fuck me time to remake my army.

>>53250984
So you mean new factions got stuff.

That's like saying Space Marines got something when AdMech was added because both are Imperium. Or adding new Tyranid factions means anything to Tau and Orks.

If its not that army, its not for them.

>>53250859
Almost every SM player will get some, and many of them will replace their whole collection with these "true scale" marines. $$$

>>53251004
I'm just saying the power level gives us a rough idea of the eventual points cost. Since Tacs are 13 each I'd expect these guys to be about 16 points each.

>>53250984
....so we just arent gonna talk about Skaven.

>>53251025
That's not new things, that's old things in a new box.

Yay. A fucking box. Such equal attention.

>>53250984
Don't forget wood elves too.

>>53251068
3 pts more for +1W +1A and better bolter but no special/heavy.

Nuts

>>53251098
Wood Elves got nothing, a new faction of forest spirits was added.

The existing line was just trimmed.

Again, creating a new faction is not giving something to the old one any more than adding Sisters of Silence is an addition to Space Wolves.

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>>53251098
>>53251070
Ohh forgot the Sylvaneth and Pestilens releases.

>>53250210
I am not a huge fan of that mass effect n7 stripe

>but there are plenty more on the way. And likely vehicles too…
Fuck, just make them the new standard of marine in funky gear. The "they're completely better but not a replacement!" fluff is real stupid.

>>53251151
No, Space Wolves are as to Space Marines as Sylvaneth are to Wood Elves. That is, subfactions. If Space Wolf shit came out it would very much be new Space Marine stuff. Same way the new Ynnari was new Eldar stuff or the Tempestus were new Guard stuff. You can run all those things as simply part of the larger factions army, therefore it is releases for those factions.

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>>53250634

So what happens to the regular spess marines? They going to be phased out like the thunder warriors?

>>53251194
The what? You mean the painted helmet stripe?

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>>53251194
Call back to first edition.

>>53251251
Ofcourse not, they are after all The Emperors (second) Finest!

>>53251284
(Third)?

Are Primaris marines gonna be better than Custodes?

>>53250210

The Spaciest most Mariniest of Space Marines

>>53251251
Nothing for now. Long term I suspect these guys will become the common Marines and the current shorter Marines will be a legacy thing kinda like beaky helmets are today.

>>53251251
Existing will probably get upgraded with new geneseed and armor.

>>53251305
Custodes will probably have WS/BS 2+ and S/T 5, so no. These guys are between Marines and Custodes.

>>53250818
This yours or is it official?

>>53250765

Honestly I'm guessing they went with Mk X simply because looks cooler and alternatively can be pronounced as mark ex.

I suppose they'll either say that Aegis armor is Mk IX or that the geneseed modifications took longer than the creation of the armor and in that time they created both Mk IX and X.

>marinefag tears when they get replaced as the poster boys with even more awesome space marines with all the coolest buys

Delicious.

>tacticool spess muhreens

wow it's fucking nothing

>>53251382
mk ix already exists though, its in that pic, almost identical to mk8 but with a collar, deathwatch veterans are equipped with it

>>53251382
Does it count as a power armour mark if it's not available to marines in general? I mean, Sister armour is based on Marine armour and it's not labeled as a mark.

>>53251378
found on warhammer community, so official

>>53251427
mk8 always had a collar.

>>53250703
Probably the first bolter iteration that doesn't look dopey.

You know what Anon's they actually look pretty cool, but I think the release of nu-marines for me marks the end of my SM army. I still have a bit of a backlog to sort and few extra things to get but the sun is certainly setting.

I say this and then I will get a squad for stern guard or some shit but part of me just feels... depressed at these guys rocking up.

WELP time to focus on my dark elder... they haven't been shat up. yet.

>>53250802
I'm pretty sure the Guard gets fuck-all

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>>53251427
>deathwatch veterans are equipped with it
what

deathwatch are in mk8

>>53251382
"Mark "X" sounds cool" that's most probably the case. Though it looks a MkIV at first glance. Heck some chapters might shove a Mkiv helmet in a mkVIII just to say they have a new set of power armour.

>>53251427
Deathwatch got MkVIII, genius.

>>53250993
I dunno, I think the info is being guarded by like three Titans or something.

Because you assholes don't read

>So, what’s a Primaris Space Marine?

These are a brand-new breed of warrior, commissioned by the Primarch Guilliman and developed in secret on Mars for the past 10,000 years by Archmagos Belisarius Cawl. Find out all about them and check out an awesome video here.

>Are all my current Space Marine miniatures redundant now?

No way! Primaris Space Marines do not replace regular (if a superhuman killing machine can be described as ‘regular’) Space Marines. These guys have a few extra genetic enhancements, thanks to Belisarius Cawl, and serve as additional reinforcements in the Adeptus Astartes arsenal, not replacements.

>Will there be multiple types of Primaris Space Marines?

You bet. So far you’ve seen the Intercessors, the line infantry clad in Mk X armour, but there are plenty more on the way. And likely vehicles too…

>Wait, Mk X armour?

Yup, these guys have new armour: combining the best bits of classic Horus Heresy-era plate, with some fancy tech developed more recently.

>Can I field a whole army of Primaris Marines?

You totally can. From a background point of view, some Chapters, especially those decimated in the events of the Gathering Storm, now have entire companies of these new warriors. Others have incorporated squads of Primaris Space Marines into existing Battle Companies. And perhaps most excitingly, Guilliman has founded some entirely new Chapters out of these new Space Marines.

>I have an <insert favourite Chapter> army. Can I field Primaris Space Marines?

Any of the galaxy’s many hundreds of Codex Chapters can use Primaris Space Marines, along with many of the less Codex-compliant ones like Dark Angels, Blood Angels and Space Wolves.

>>53251522
Only the helmet. The legs look very much like MkIII.

>>53251526
Pretty sure he'd make his own out of a bitchfit.
>oh yeah?
>well nu-marines have the faces of the primarchs!
>suck on that

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dont know if like or not

>>53251461
>>53251492
>tfw when confused armour marks
>thought mk7 was mk8
>thought mk8 was mk9

I'm an idiot

>>53251312
In which case, maybe having the ultramarine Aquila being omnipresent on them will later on be a mark of 'primaris' versus 'regular', when everything's on the new scale?

>So, Primaris are just better in the game, right? What’s the point of using older Space Marines?

Marine to Marine, they certainly have some advantages over a Tactical Squad, but it comes at a cost. These guys will cost more points than standard Space Marines, so you’ll have fewer of them, and their weapon options will be different. For maximum tactical punch, you’ll want to bring all your Space Marines to the tabletop.

>What if I don’t want to use them?

Well, aside from missing out on some cool new models and tactical options for your army, then that’s totally cool. You certainly don’t have to include Primaris Space Marines in your Space Marines army. Though when you see the Primaris Redemptor Dreadnought, you’ll want to. Primaris Dreadnought? Did I write that…? Nah. Moving on.

>Are the kits compatible with existing Space Marine kits?

Good Question. There are certainly elements of the existing Space Marines kits that will be cross-compatible, while the new armour mark means that some parts won’t mix as easily. Shoulder pads and helmets are the same scale, and will still work, whereas the legs, torso and arms are different, and not quite as interchangeable. In terms of the Primaris sets themselves, you’ll have loads of fun kit-bashing them.

>Can I use these guys alongside my Astra Militarum army?

Yeah you can. These new Space Marines will be available to use alongside all Imperial armies to fill some battlefield roles your army might normally struggle with.

What are the odds that fabius shows up with the exact same thing but for csm?

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>>53251573

>Do the Primaris Space Marines play nice with the Adeptus Custodes?

>They sure do. Many of the Emperor’s elite golden guard are accompanying Gulliman and the Primaris Space Marines on the Indomitus Crusade.

>But I play Chaos! Where are my super-super-human reinforcements?

First off, that’ll teach you for turning your back on the Emperor. Secondly, did you not see the Death Guard teaser video? The Chaos Gods have not been idle – we guarantee there are some warp-charged hulking warriors on their way for you guys in the not too distant future.

>>53251586
>ultramarine aquila omnipresent on them

???

what?

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>>53251573
Here is the 2nd image!

>>53251431

No, Mk has seemingly always been used to differentiate between the different types of power armor that have been available to all Chapters.

>>53251552

I didn't really think of it until now, but it seems like they've done enough to make Mk X its own thing. It has a gorget, some kind of device built into the arm, plates covering the hips, and the fan armor above the knees.

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>>53250210
>yfw I roll up with my Grey Falcon Primaris Marines and put your paint-slathered manlets to shame.

>>53251628
>>53251674
>GW continues to snub FW by using their own, old and busted minis, instead of newer FW minis for some of the marks
>FW keeps making units with GW models shittier than their own units

And this is why 30k will never be as great as it should.

>>53251488
Guard has enough shit. It could use some new regimental models though.

>>53251549
New Chapters, but are did will he lift the 1000 marines limit on the chapters?

>>53251677
Well, the page says it's based on 30k suits.

Pretty hype for this. Not only do I get cool new dudes but maybe the Imperium will stopped getting fucked 4 ways from Tuesday and might even be able to beat Tau plot armor.

>>53250210
So this is the 40k Stormcast-equivalent then? A slightly modified space marine model to get people to buy more of their overpriced plastic

>>53251776
>but are did will he

Did your brain just stop working for a second?

Also, he did write that rule, so who's gonna argue with him if he does?

>>53251162

>pestilens release

Name one new thing that they had that wasn't new rules.

>plastic fucking round bases

Wow what a New Release, we sure are lucky

"You can see on the datasheet too, that you can select a <Chapter> as a faction keyword. That means you can add Primaris Space Marines to your Ultramarines, Dark Angels, Space Wolves, Blood Angels, Iron Hands, Rainbow Warriors, or any other Codex Chapter you like, even one of your own invention."

>Rainbow Warriors

Hell yeah

>>53250765
the same thing that happend to windows 9

>>53251776
>but are did will he

are you having a stroke?

>>53251803
Yeah for a second I rewrote the sentence in my head but forgot to delete while typing. Bad habit of mine.

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>>53251803
>who's gonna argue with him if he does?

>>53251809
Means nothing. Just slipped in to get that reaction out of people.
But true, hell yeah.

>>53251862
Honestly, if they have a not!Leandros character who gets BLAM'd for trying to pull a "but the codex does not support this action" on Guilliman, this whole debacle might just be worth it.

>>53251862
>"The Codex Astartes Says-"
>Girlyman takes the original Codex he wrote
>takes a pen
>writes "Brother Leandros sucks ass and is a big faggot that nobody likes" in it
>shows it to Leandros
>"What does the Codex say, Leandros? What does it fucking say?"
>then wipes his ass with it and tosses it away

>>53250979
>>53251251
I think current models will be made redundant, but naturally, the way Rogue Trader marines started looking silly by late 2nd edition and fell out of use.

First they'll release Ultraultramarines to cover every part of the current model range - this'll take a while, possibly 5+ years. Then they'll merge their rules in the next edition. At that point, you can run either big or small marines under the same rules, but your small marines will look a little funny. It's worth noting that the new Sisters of Silence models are about as tall as space marines... either humans needed to shrink or marines needed to grow. They've chosen the latter.

>>53250210
If those are the new "standard" space marines and not just some elite unit I might start a space marine army after years of disliking them.

>>53251586
Every chapter, even Space Wolves, has always had models with chest Aquila.

>>53251955
And that's how Slannesh gained her most anal champion.

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>>53251862
While we're at it throw in a Captain Titus model.

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>>53250982
>Those Plasma Guns
Lewd...

I've never been interested in Marines before, but Primarines are selling me on them.

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>>53250210
How is it that I have seen that kind of Marine years before?

Something about Dornian Heresy and Ultramarines splintering into own empire, and advancing own tech.

>>53251963
This. It's a fade out of the old marines. They could either completely alienate their customer base, never endeavor to change marines at all, or do a transition like they're doing.

I think they made the right choice.

>>53251964
The are the standard unit for a new elite type of Marines. GW is designing it so you can have an army purely of various types of these guys if you want.

>>53251779
As a Heresy player, I'd say it looks like Mk VIII with the addition of design cues from Mk III (known for frontal protection) and Mk IV (arguably the most advanced model). The rounded kneepad could be from the more recent marks, but the way they've been bulked out does bring Mk III to mind. And the helmet is very Mk IV.

>>53250634
What's up with all the hip plates these days?

>>53251200
>they're completely better but not a replacement!" fluff is real stupid.
It's there to prevent outright civil wars between chapters and IoM. Once the indominus crusade is over there won't be that many regular marines left and the superior production time of the guillimarines will start to kick in.

>other armies STILL have decade/multiple decades old plastic/metal kits
>HEEEEEEEY GUYS ITS THE NEW GAMES WORKSHOP HERE
>LOOK AT THESE NEW SPACE MARINES WOW
>NOT JUST THIS, MORE PRIMARIS KITS TO COME!

New games workshop™, same old shit. Fuck everyone else, got to make those SPEHSS MUHREEN bucks.

>>53250527
From the blueballs of Guilliman, 10k years waiting

>>53250634
>>53251213

Hmmmm, WHy does that Ultramarine have Serrated Sun Chapter marking on his thigh?

Last I saw those, was when Argel Tal and his chaps had headbutting moment with UMs

>>53250210
Guess I'll just sit over here in the Eye of Terror painting my decade old models.

GWs is finally starting to turn up the Imperium = Protagonist knob too far for me.

>>53252169
Over half the factions in the game are Imperium, you saying that wasn't the case already?

The new boltgun looks great but why do they have massive cankles

>>53252040
>They could either completely alienate their customer base, never endeavor to change marines at all, or do a transition like they're doing.
Hold up, they've completely replaced the marine miniatures line twice already and it's never really alienated the customers.

They could have done the same thing here, but for whatever reason decided to make it a fluff point. They obviously knew people weren't going to happy about that sort of development (as evidenced by half the FAQ going on about it) but went with it anyways because... who knows.

>>53252164
It's an iron halo, dude.

>>53252164
That's been a marine symbol for decades.

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>>53252164

>>53252169
Chaos players have nothing to complain about, just had the 1k sons relese and death guard are incoming, meanwhile aspect warriors are still monopose resin.

So are they basically replacing all the current models with "primaris" versions bit by bit

I don't understand why the "superior" aspect was even played.

I mean, Cawl could have invented a better way to create space marines not unlike the Blood Angels sarcophagus, designed a new suit of armour that's actually totes better (but a bit heretical because innovating) and a new gun and Bobby G could have offered this to the space marines chapters as part of the indomitus crusade.

Really the whole "super marines" is stupid. New breeding method+new armour mark could have been enough and would have made this whole story less contrived.

>>53252278
Improving the geneseed is also a valid method of making better SPESS.

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>>53251052
MFW I play Iron Warrior renegades who are still organized like Legion forces. MFW Loyalists get to play the way I've always wanted to.

I should just go play HH at this point.

>>53252220
Well what if he plays Alpha Legion or something that can't take cult units? He's just as shit out of luck as you are then isn't he.

>>53251975
>Leandros goes on a one man crusade against IoM to prove the codex infallible and that Guilliman is a heretic

>>53252220
I just want new sculpts of the average Chaos marines so I can make my dudes better

>>53250912
We're fucked bud. We've gotten to stand in the spotlight for a few months so when they kill Abbadon, beat up the Primarchs and seal the Eye of Terror it will make the Imperialfags feel like they accomplished something.

>>53250748
So you're saying there is a chance for the Lamenters to not be screwed?

Well, somehow it's going to be fucked for them. Watch theirs be the only one tainted on delivery or something.

>>53251025
>>53251806

>The old models of the Ghouls and Savage Orcs were repurposed to be their own unique AoS armies.

Mmm...

Beastclaw (Not the entire ogre range, like 5 models)
Sylvaneth (You have to buy wildwoods to play)
Savage Orrukz (All the heroes are ancient fucking 4th ed fantasy sculpts)
Pestilens (They couldn't even be bothered to release a priest on foot. No other Skaven have been released btw)
Flesh eaters (Heroes so badly implemented you have to give up the 20th or 3th model in the box to make them )

And the two at the bottom already have out of date battletomes

Yeah wow the old armies really get to shine amirite. doesn't feel like a lazy shit repackage with round bases at all!

>>53252358
What about the Marines Manevolent who steal tech all the time from other chapters just to survive? I wonder how they feel about this?

>>53252220
I don't play cult armies.

>>53250982
Them plasma looks good.

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are there still numarine deniers?

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>the last time nids took a bit out of marines, we got tyrant guards

What do you think the skymother will do with primaris geneseed?

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>>53252322
>Main hero of Space Marine 2 is not Titus but Leandros.

>>53252410
Id be fine with this

>>53252379
Its free handouts for them. They'll like it.

>>53252435
I'm fine as long as Space Marine 2 actually comes out. A TPS starring a Scout Marine would be tits.

>>53250210
They actually look how Space Marines were supposed to look like on tabletop.

Still I dig the look.

>>53251278
So it will be actually good?

Aight if I have to start an army anew of primaris marines, what chapter would be great?
I have Guardians of the Covenant fight now, DA successors.
I was thinking something more tacticool and reasonable, since Guilliman seems to be bringins things like reason and strategy into the picture.
Reasonable marines?

>>53252358

Straight from Warhammer community itself

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/15/primaris-space-marines-faq-may15gw-homepage-post-2/

Can I field a whole army of Primaris Marines?

You totally can. From a background point of view, some Chapters, especially those decimated in the events of the Gathering Storm, now have entire companies of these new warriors. Others have incorporated squads of Primaris Space Marines into existing Battle Companies. And perhaps most excitingly, Guilliman has founded some entirely new Chapters out of these new Space Marines.

I have an <insert favourite Chapter> army. Can I field Primaris Space Marines?

Any of the galaxy’s many hundreds of Codex Chapters can use Primaris Space Marines, along with many of the less Codex-compliant ones like Dark Angels, Blood Angels and Space Wolves.

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>>53252496

>>53250982
You know I hated the idea of simarines in 40k.

But that plasma rifle makes me moist.

>>53252508
>along with many of the less Codex-compliant ones like Dark Angels, Blood Angels and Space Wolves
How would that play in fluff though? Especially the Dark Angels.

>>53252537
>simarines
???

>>53252508
So logically, the new marines will replace the older marines in time. I mean why would they continue producing the older version of marines anymore?

>>53252553
Depends on chapter.

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>>53252496
Celestial Lions

>>53252488
Sadly due to Relic Fucking up on astronomically ludicrous levels with DoW3, I'd be surprised if they last a year without shutting its doors

>>53252553
Different combat roles
Different levels of tech
Different supplis

>>53252191
I always felt like they were the big cheese, but that day by day the cheese was being eaten by dozens of hungry space Italians of all shapes and sizes.

Now the cheese has gotten some extra moisture so it's extra tasty and will likely be too flavorful for any kind of European to eat. Plus they have that new Gorilla that won't stop telling everyone how great the new craft cheeses he's working on are with his new automated cheese maker.

I was fine when the cheese was starting to mold, but now the cheese is just as delicious as when the Emperor first became an amateur fromager.

As the video says. This cheese is perfect. No other cheese can compare. Buy Gorilla cheese, only available at the Sharper Image.

>>53252552
Sigmarines. Stormcast Eternals.
>>53252580
It could that someone else picks game like Darksiders 3.

>>53250818

I dislike that these are just strictly but slightly better tacticals.

>>53252619
*could be

>>53252580
Someone else can buy the rights? GW has been throwing around licenses in this past years and the games had been hit and miss.

>>53252619
How are they like stormcast?

>>53252296
Yes but it could have been done differently, and later and even more spectacular.

I mean, those minis are absolutely good, but they should have been used as the new standard space marine box. New shiny armour mark, new boltgun, not out of scale with Deathwatch marines. Then later they release a box of "Imperium-era marines" which is a in-scale kit of old space marines armour patterns.


In the background it makes way for a shadow war between the traditionalist AdMech who still believes a STC can be found vs pragmatic AdMech who actually try to improve their shit, and traditionalist marines who don't want the new shit (or stranded too far) vs Guillimarines.

>>53252210
I assume there were a good amount of corporate shenanigans involved.
What we're seeing is the result of compromise between people who wanted to update the models, people whose plan for 8th was a complete Sigmarization, and the one guy claiming that Space Marines just don't get enough love, especially with a new edition coming.
(I assume that somewhere in the offices there's always somebody claiming that their pet faction just doesn't get enough love; but they only ever listen to four at a time, and three of them never change.)

>>53252627

The lack of special weapons hurts them a fair bit.

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>>53251955

So that one image of the numarine people thought was fake is real?!? GASP

>>53252666
We've already seen pictures of nuMarines with nuPlasma guns.

>>53252488
I'd rather like it if it were a Mass-Effect style FPS/ARPG like the original was supposed to be.

Yep, Space Marine was supposed to be more than a TPS. And instead of just Titus, you'd have a entire team of marines for the whole game.

>>53252400
I think it is safe to assume that everyone loves this.

GW did good. For the first time in like 10 years.

>>53252684
>I think it is safe to assume that everyone who plays Space Marines loves this.

>>53252573
Now I want to see Inquisitors to have it way, way more difficult to employ Ork Snipers.

>>53252488
Even better have you start out as scout, then become marine, then either assault/devastator then terminator.

Start of the game is you sneaking about, learning the craft, by the end of the game you are a stomping about, give no fucks pain-train.

>>53252702
The only reason people would hate it is because their shitty xenos army or chaos fag warband got ignored as they should.

The true sons of the emperor are rewarded anon.

But I appreciate you because you give me something to shoot so hopefully we get some orks or nid shit in soon.

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>>53251955

>>53252648
Big shoulder hero boys created by God to replace your old army.

>>53252677
>nuPlasma guns

Volkite.

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>>53252531
Dear diary:
today I've learned that Sable Swords are dicks.

With love,
Dreadnought Thade

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TFW when you just started building up an Astartes chapter

>>53252765
GuilliCuckst UltraTernal NuMaleRines

>>53252765
They look nothing like volkite.

>>53252759
Except these guys are almost alike as the mold models aesthetically, just better.

>>53252164
It's an iron halo

>>53252809
I was DA, I kind of want to try something new.

Maybe IF. These guys would look pretty snazzy in yellow and red.

>>53252580
DoW 3 is great. I will neverunderstand why is /v/ so buttfrustrated about it except some minor uncanny bullshit like Gabriel Angelos size/jumping (which pisses me off to desu) or few bad design decisions, some of which can be repaired (melee units not autocharging the enemy, spess muhreens being too reasonable and having bad VAs)

A misstep and lore rape by GW. They will rake in cash though.

Probably normal marines will be phased out over the years. Until then pretend they don't exist like Nemesis dreadknights and those Centurion suits

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>>53252809
>tfw I finished my cozy demi-company 1 week ago
>tfw I made lore for the dudes
>tfw I love the company master mini and I don't want to replace it

I-It's not fair

>>53252891
I am just gonna use them as normal marines alongside my Tallarns.

They will look neat as fuck.

>>53252765
>volkites
>with plasma muzzles
>and plasma flasks

>>53252906
Why not have a handful reinforce your company?

>>53252867
The Escalation system completely fucks the pace of the game by demanding you play in a certain way. It draws too much inspiration from MOBAs in terms of map design and objectives. The campaign ending with another hero fight against a Giant Red Demon, something like the third in the series. The aesthetic is awful. The cover system is retarded. The voice acting isn't as good as the first two games. It's just an extremely poor sequel which tries to please both DoW1 and DoW2 fans and ends up disappointing both.

>>53252945
They are going to replace regular marines in a year or two. Civil war, yadda yadda, old marines gtfo.
Plus, just wait till we begin getting Primaris Marine characters.

>Slow agonizing death sentance for old Marine models.

Boy I sure like having stuff I own become worthless!

>T-they're not replacing them!

Not yet. Let's see what happens when they "just decide" to phase out the old models five years from now.

>>53252973
>some geneseed flaw means that primaris marines are vulnerable to turning to chaos
>huge traitor uprising from within the ranks of the chapters causes massive civil war
>Chaos Primaris Upgrade Kit
>"""roboutte""" was actually alpharius all along, just as planned
>The End Times of the 41st Millinum, Chaos Wins
>Age of Alpharius
>Buy the new Alphacast Omegaternals!

>>53252656
It would have been cool to have drama in the crusade where the chapters who refuse the new tech have to resort to more and more desperate tactics to keep up with the new weapons and increased numbers of the numarines.

>>53253050
>Rouboute was Alpharius all along

I would masturbate furiously to this, holy shit

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>>53253025
>worthless!
Not worthless. Just old. Eventually it will just be like the dude who plays with funky old 2nd Ed. Models.

>>53252210
>>53252663
Also those who think the current crunch doesn't match the fluff. A way to lead into 2W marines.

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>Wanted to use these to do truscale Iron Warriors
>Covered in aquilas and shit

As a Blood Angels player I don't want filthy ultramarine gene seed in my army

GW what are you doing. I thought you were getting better

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>>53253120

>>53253132
They could have done 2W marines anyway, new fluff or not. They have written everything from the ground up

>>53253143
I get the distinct feeling that what we're seeing is Kirby's last laugh, considering how long it takes to actually get miniatures from concept to production.

>>53253143
They don't use girlyman gene seed.

I want to see one of these guys with some heavy weapons.

>>53250982
>foresight blocking scope
GG

>>53253166
Then there's no reason to buy the new models that, even though they're more detailed, have better margins because they're bigger models.

It's a phase in of true-scale with proper rules but the encouragement to buy the true-scale without completely alienating the existing customer base. The whole thing is a giant compromise between gross margin, customer expectations, and pushing the new edition.

>>53253185
He literally rams his genesperms into each teenage recruit up their asshole and implants his body-mutating gunk deep into their organs so it can start turning them into them from little boys into manly "sons".

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>>53253025
>Boy I sure like having stuff I own become worthless!

>>53253143
Primaris Marines use the Geneseed of whichever chapter it is. It's a new process developed by Cawl, not Rowboat. Girlyman has just traditionally had the most stable geneseed. It would make sense they'd start with Ultras as a result.

>>53253025
I still play with 2nd edition models and the old Lord of Change that is no bigger than a dreadnaught.... you don't have to change anything you faggot

>>53253262
It's a space marine box, truescale, with a new armor mark. Even without the bullshit rules it would have sold like hotcakes. It would have been the new starter set. The new start painting set. It would have automatically sold. Especially if you phase out the old kit.

>>53253274
Lion and Horus gene seed more stable and more potent originally, but they're questionable now for obvious reasons.

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>>53253264
Fulgrim i know you want to have sex with your brother, but he has better girlfriend.

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>>53251955
I would pay to see that canon.

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>>53250210

Id rather have a "this is the new space marine. Yep you heard us, we will replace the full like with guys like this!"
And finally aim for a 40k that goes in scale, and making a tactical space marine an actual space marine, not just cannon fodder. Make bolters rip of chunks of a well armored target or annihilating light vehicles with ease! Simply make them as bad as as they are described in the fluff.

With this however, they are simply accepting that the former "super soldier of the imperium of man" has shrunk due to other teams just walking over him time and time again. And that they, through sheer greed, have made people buy more and larger armies, and thus dumb down the value of a regular marine.
With this, they make marines, well.... Less mariney I guess is what Im trying to say.

Don't get me wrong, love the model, I just hate the rest about it.

>>53250799
20 rubric marines cost 36 power point.
30 intercessor cost 36 power too.

Boyz over toys remember
Boyz : 2 W 2 A pretty nasty for 30 boys like that.

toys :30" bolter meaning 15" twice can be in foot or can take razorback no bulky rules mentionned.

>>53253324
Female Eldar Space Marines when???

>>53252759
I fucking hate memes

>>53253323
Lion still has the purest geneseed.

GW just did lore gymnastics to make ultras "Better" since they are the poster child.

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>Boy I sure like having stuff I own become worthless!

>>53253143
Why don't you assholes ever read anything before shitposting

>>53253317
The old heads and shoulders scale with it so I am just gonna make them all beaks with chapter specific pads. It is gonna look great.

Anyone else notice they appear to come in squads of 8?

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>Boy I sure like having stuff I own becoming worthless!

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>Boy I sure like having stuff I own become worthless!

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>Boy I sure like having stuff I own become worthless!

>>53250261
>Implying Primaris Space Marines are immune to falling to Chaos

Papa Nurgle is waiting for his new sons with open arms.

>>53253488
>>53253497
>>53253500
I love this

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>Boy I sure like stuff I own become worthless!

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>Boy I sure like having stuff I own become worthless!.

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>Boy I sure like having stuff I own become worth... wait.

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>Boy I sure like having stuff I own become worthless!

>>53250982
>Picatinny rails

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>53253343

Agree strongly.

Truescale has always looked way better, but giving it out as a different unit? ehhhh.

I do wonder how these are put together, though. I wonder if the heads/pauldrons are interchangeable. How well old arms work, etc.

>>53253343
marines already were in scale, its the cadians who are the wrong scale.

Marines are supersoldiers but the "muh truscale" always goes way too far.

Seriously, I like a lot of Kopinski's art but I can't forgive him for starting this trend.

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>Boy I sure like stuff I own becoming worthless!

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>>53253386
>Lion still has the purest geneseed.
>implying

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>Boy I sure like having stuff I own become worthless

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>>53250982
>truescale out of the box
>tacticool weapons
>MkIV esque helmets

These guys will look great looming over my Guard infantry

>>53253528
>USA
>worthless

Britbong gon bong.

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>Boy I sure like having stuff I own become worthless! !

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>>53253599
I need more of her.

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>Boy I sure like having stuff I own become worthless!

>>53253599
S..sauce

>>53253500

I have those, still use them and love them because they are easier to hide them

>>53253623
He's talking about the musket you easily triggered cuck.

>>53253343
>>53253559
I get what you guys are saying, but I think this will cause a lot less butthurt than if they just came out and replaced oldmarines.

Not to mention, this gives them an excuse to space out newmarine releases.

>>53253669
Lana Rain. Not really worth your time, but have fun searching her up.

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>Boy I sure like having stuff I own become... N-NANIIIIII ?!

>>53250381
Bolt guns don't need scopes, they have HUDs.

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>Boy I sure like having stuff I own become worthless!
.

Imagine being a goddamn space marine, living for hundreds, if not thousands of years constantly fighting all the threats the imperium faces, always giving it your all, being the very best mankind has to offer because someone has to.

Then this old dude wakes up and makes someone better than you.

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NEW SPACE MARINES!

SAME AS THE OLD SPACE MARINES, JUST TALLER!

FUCK GW!

>>53253695
you really think people's entire army instantly becoming outdated would be better received?

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why are their ankles so huge /tg/? they look retarded.

>>53253667
Those became worthless the moment you gave money for them to GW.

>>53253715
Thanks.

>>53253695
>>53253755
wait...

fuck, never browse /tg/ drunk guys, messes with your reading comprehension

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>>53253760
>someone took a genestealer cult up its ass, recently

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>>53253759
Design notes from Mk III armor.

>>53253529
Would still field those fuckers.

>>53253599
sauce?

>>53253745
Not only that, the new captain of the Ultramarines 2nd company is a Numarine, which means pretty much entire existing chapter go passed over for promotion in favor of some new kid who hasn't even been into battle yet.

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>>53253759

>>53250381
Yes, so modern they put the trigger in a place that makes no logical sense and it still has an iron sight despite the scope.

>>53253759
Flares are fashionable in the 41st millennium.

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>Boy I sure like having stuff I own become worthless!

>>53250210
I'm gonna say it, I don't like those wheel stabilizers on the legs.

They're bulky and break the profile.

>>53253863
Nothing in that box is terribly out of scale with current Ork or Space Marine models. They look a bit dated but are close enough in size to work together. Numarines are way too tall to do the same with current Marines.

>>53253694
>takes the bait
>accuses others of getting triggered

Nice going, cuck.

>>53250210
From the FAQ
>Why should I trust you?
>Come on! This is New Games Workshop™

>>53253842
Most modern rifles have backup irons in case the optic goes down, either from the rough and tumble life of being mounted on a combat weapon, such as being dropped or shot or hit with shrapnel, whatever. Most optics now a days have a QD mechanism to remove them easily if they go down.

>>53250818
>frag grenade
>d6 shots
My body is ready.

Now surely some of them gonna defect to Chaos and SCM are gonna pillage some nu-marine gene-seed from them.

I expect Fabulus Bill to pump out Chaos Primaris marines in mere months after the first encounters with them.

>>53253898
I assume you're joking. The scale change from 2nd Edition era models to current is the same increase as from current models to the "nuMarines."

>>53253946
Nah, Fabius' New Men will probably get models and counter the primaris.

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>>53253837
I've been considering a Megaman X themed custom Chapter for years.

>>53253978
Why can't we have both? New Men as rape machines of utter destruction and insanity and Hijacked Primaris marines just to piss Big Daddy G off.

>>53253990
>Not zero

lmaoing at your life battle brother.

So are Harlequins or Guard going to get anything new?

>>53253717
Okay now I'm laughing

>>53254018
But Anon you just got a new space Marine kit!

>>53250210
The only thing that triggers me is Cawl.
Like nigga was sitting on his metal ass for 10k years and then suddenly inventions.
The moment he met his new buttbuddy Girlyman he advanced the Imperial technology first time in 10k years.

>>53251774
Guard used to get a lot of love from forgeworld, that's basiclly over now. GW have given them the Wyvern and a new commissar in the past 10 years maybe, and in that time they've stripped rough riders, a couple of special characters models and the last chancers off the top of my head.

>>53254041
That is exactly what defines Admech.

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>>53250818
>frag grenade
>causes as many hits as a battle cannon

>>53254041
>advanced the Imperial technology first time in 10k years.
There's reason Imperials have shit like Baal Predators, Assault cannons, Grav-guns and so on and Chaos don't - they were invented/discovrered after the Heresy

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>>53254095
Don't forget Mk. 8 has the "most advanced augurs yet devised" and the most efficient power supply.

>>53253559
Pads are the same size, everything else is going to be difficult, according to Geedubs website.

With Cawl unsanctioned technology, will the Mechanicus bitch like never before?

>>53254095
Grav-guns are dark age of tech relics, they were more common (lore-wise, the less ridiculous rules makes them somewhat less popular on the tabletop) in 30k then they are in 40k.

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>mfw I'll never be able to use these guys because of fluff reasons

Sad shark is sad

>>53254095
>Baal Predators

Check the 30k BA rules.

>Assault cannons

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Cataphractii-Iliastus-Pattern-Assault-Cannon

>Grav-guns

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Graviton-Gun-Set-2015

>>53254176
30k had graviton guns. They were converted into modern grav guns after the heresy.

>>53254145
Macharius is in 30k and the fluff makes hints that its design was based on older tanks. Leman Russ Annihilator is also found in 30k.

>>53254236
you're thinking of the Malcador.

Macharius is post-heresy, its named after Solar Macharius after all

>>53254172
They can't. They are bitchboys of LORD COMMANDER Girlyman.
They will end up tainting the ubergeneseed and doing Marsian Heresy v2 I fucking swear.

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>>53254018

They even specifically call out guard players to buy the NuMarines. Are we officially SQUATTED and KEKED by these new boys in blue?

>>53254013
Melee and stealth units would get Zero's colors.
X's colors for ranged and tactical units.

>>53254054
>last chancers
They are still available on the website. But yeah, no special rules for them.

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Can primaris marines be female?

>>53254181

>space sharks player thinking he won't get them forced on him by New Games Workshop™ even though even Dark Angels and Space Wolves are getting some

Get a load of this guy

>>53254316
Fucking kys

>>53254316
Yes, the new process works on any healthy human not just men.

>>53254278
Nope, Macharius. It's available to be taken as an LoW (Malcador is Heavy Support) and the current fluff in IA vol. 1, 2nd edition says the Macharius we know was based on older designs. So it wasn't even OC donut steel. Nothing is. Everything was invented in 30k and people just "discovered" it later.

>>53254342

>it works on anyone
>no females pictured with the new models

Hmm, could someone on the internet be lying... I don't believe it could happen

>>53253630

>her

>>53254316
Not from what we've seen so far.

>>53254316
Considering hos gene-seed changes male recipients female merines would just have slighly wider hips, maybe sligly less slaby faces and be identical in every other way. They may have different genitals, but considering how marine organs kill their libido it wouldn't matter.

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>>53254316
yes, we starcraft nao

>>53254366
>no females pictured with the new models
How did you determine the gender of someone is super special power armour?

>>53254366
They are female under the armor you just can't tell

>>53254363
I just checked both Solar auxilia and imperial militia lists, its not in there dude.

>>53253759
>mould lines

>>53254432
>>53254436

>since the saint and even with the female stormcast, massive boobplate
>somehow female SM won't have boobplate

Sorry, you guys lost

>>53254432
>>53254436
GW females all have boobplate.
Primaris Marines actually have pecplate.

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>>53254316
I hope so, the best we can get out of this fluff rape is some good wank material.