stump /tg/ thread

1. 6
2. 6

6
2

>>53224756
Go back there.

>>53224756
4/15/2013 Effects that switch power and toughness apply after all other effects that change power and/or toughness, regardless of which effect was created first.

It's 2 and 2.

>>53224756
1. 7
2. 3

>>53224921
It would be 3 because of Twisted Image's draw.

>>53225239
oh wait sorry it's 7 7

unless in the 2nd one the enchantment is resolved before the instant is cast, then it's 7, 3

>>53224756
Read the rules. This is a classic problem that is easily solved by reading rule block 613. Specifically:

613.3c: Layer 7c: Effects that modify power and/or toughness (but don't set power and/or toughness to a specific number or value) are applied.

613.3e: Layer 7e: Effects that switch a creature's power and toughness are applied. Such effects take the value of power and apply it to the creature's toughness, and take the value of toughness and apply it to the creature's power.

Result:
>Twisted Abomination base p/t 5/3
>Modified by Twisted Experiment 8/2
>Switched by Twisted Image 2/8
>Cards drawn by Twisted Justice: 2

You learned something today.

>>53225510
wait nvm i just understood the wording of 613.3e: Layer 7e

>>53225387
why does it work like that?? that's so unintuitive

>>53228032
It makes more sense than the other way around.