How diverse do you like your science fiction?

Very.

Aliens everywhere, each of a different species.

>>53221100
The future should only have black people. They're clearly better prepared, having already evolved the perfect camouflage for the darkness of space.

>>53221100
You mean as in species or skin color or sexuality?

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>>53221100
So white that you get scenes like this.

>>53221100
In my opinion, I don't care if the character is white or black or gay or Hispanic or an alien from Alpha Centauri. I just care if they are a good character, are they Mary sues, etc.

>>53221100
Doesn't bother me at all if they're diverse for no reason. I really like it when there's a story reason for the diversity (as in The Expanse, since Mars was colonized by India, China, and Texas).

>>53221100
>tfw no more miller

>>53221100
So far in the future that race and gender are actual matters of personal choice because body swapping is commercially viable.

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>>53221100
All mixed. Baseline + Cyborg + Neogens

>>53221100
A bunch of human-derivatives, some reasonably understandable things, then some completely weird nonhumanoid weird shit.
Like, the bridge crew is a cyborg with LCD skin covered in ads because he's still paying off his implants, three identical dudes from Eugenics: The Planet that aren't telepathic but might as well be, an indeterminate number of small scaly things that ARE telepathic with each other but bitch at each other constantly in meatspace for the variety, a twelve-foot russian genemodded to have skin like armor plating and the ability to live anywhere, and the ship's "AI" is a fungal colony that communicates with mental images and has several 'infested' robots for interacting on a 'human' scale.
Everyone is beige, but it doesn't matter because philosophical, factional, and national identities are much more fun to fight over than just race

>>53221163
That's what I love about the Japanese.

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Somewhat.

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>>53221264
that looks like a group shot of a second life community

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>>53221315
>Voyager
>higher than Lexx

>>53221140
I see you sun ra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf7d2q6o7uc

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>>53221100

>>53221100
>The future
>In a fiction
>Having skin at all
You severely underestimate the rapid encroachment of transcendence, physical and fictional.
If flesh-suits for an aesthetic, >>53221233
but please note that it goes quite a bit further than just "race" and "gender".

>>53221100
I don't have any particular preference in the matter and will enjoy it nonetheless.

>>53221315
>DS9 over B5
there is a hole in your mind

>>53221471
>>53221369
>replying to bait from the 21st century

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>>53221315
>Enterprise.
>Above garbage tier.

>Blakes7.
>Low tier.

Anon,
No, anon,
Anon, no...

>>53221315
I think you might have accidentally saved a chart created by a retarded person anon

>>53221163
Yang just doesn't understand a world where people come in ethnicities other than Chinese and German.

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>>53221409
>pic
Do you mean the Kingdom of New Orleans?

>>53221315
Blake 7 that low
Voyager that high

What the ever loving fuck is wrong with you?

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>>53221100
Very in terms of species
Once you pass a certain point "race" becomes irrelevant because all humans have the capability to look entirely unique

>>53221947
The civilised man is no longer pure.

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>Non-white character
>Obligatory story arc about muh ancient culture
>Cue rituals and candles aboard starship

>>53222016
oh you mean about the episode with the irish colonists in TNG?

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>>53222053
>Irish
>White

>>53221947
But those are extradimensional refugees.

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>>53221100
Diverse in which humanoids are a thing, not a norm. And rubber foreheads/green babes aren't, the galaxy is free of shlock 80's sci-fi tropes that should have just died have already

>>53221100
I'm pretty fond of particularly flavorful SF.

Like, say, if your space empire was made of colonists from ethnically russian, french, and... say, greek, backgrounds. Blending them into something new and exotic based off that is pretty interesting.

>>53222094
how old were you when you realized you hated fun things

>>53222170
Okay, green babes are okay ironically

>>53222067
>>53222087
What is the difference between the irish and the british, though?

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>>53221100
I do like how Belters are a big melting pot of a load of cultures, which is reflected in Beltalowda being a such a mishmash creole.

I also like the idea that when colony ships are cheap and habitable planets are plentiful you'd end up with every tiny nationalist/revivalist movement setting off to make New Kernow/Aztlan/Chechnya.

So you have big cosmopolitan places on trade routes that are mishmashes of god-knows how many cultures and ethnicity, while
the backwaters are more homogeneous

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>>53221100
Ilike my science fiction to cover a variety of scopes and genres, from the microuniversal to the macro reality of multiversal and extradimensional possibility. Tech should span very different ranges, preferably differing by species as much as by style and capability. There should always be some kind of scarcity, even in a post scarcity universe (though I wonder what gold pressed latinum's value actually was) and life should run the \\gamut of impossibilities as well as possibilities. AI should also differ by origin of life, as well.

What do you mean that's not what you meant? We're on /tg/, right?

>>53222094
I don't mind rubber foreheads so much, as life as we know it can only take so many forms and, realistically, humanity is all we have for a jumping point with realistic high-functioning mental capacity.

A lot of non-humanoid sci-fi races are just spins on shit on earth anyway, like birds, bugs, squid, etc. with the problem being that most of these creatures would never actually exist due to biological constraints, which in turn makes them less realistic and more fantastical, despite the fact that if we were to come across alien beings the likelyhood that they would appear like we do would be dubious at best.

Basically do whatever the fuck you want because none of it probably makes any sense anyway.

>>53222070
Are you implying that Humans are not, in fact, extradimensional refugees?

>>53222259
>I also like the idea that when colony ships are cheap and habitable planets are plentiful you'd end up with every tiny nationalist/revivalist movement setting off to make New Kernow/Aztlan/Chechnya.

Ayn Randians going off to make their Randian paradise, and realizing that their entire philosophy is stupid moments before dying to space crabs always makes me smile.

>>53222213
I always liked M'rrgla Qualtz from Top Ten. She's a Martian Manhunter knockoff that used the shapeshifting and telepathy to retire and become a pornstar.

Later, she becomes a prostitute-pineal-gland-eating telepathic worm with monofilament tentacles. It's that kind of series.

>>53222259
>new kernow

Next time I run any sci-fi setting I'm going to fuck with cornish nationalism and make them a faction because I fucking love that idea

>>53222338
In a Stars Without Number game I was running a year ago I had the Sector basically be Ancient Greece in Space.

>>53222234
>british
Irish are British geographically. inb4 the RA gets buttmad and bombs a pub
Irish, Scottish are Q-Celts/Gaelic, while Welsh and pre-Saxon inhabitants of England were P-Celts/Brythonic. Then the Germanic Saxons came and mixed with the Celts in England, to a lesser extent Wales, to an even lesser extent Scotland, and later on with the Irish.

Essentially it's the idea that the Irish are the most Celtic and least Germanic, and are therefore inferior. But realistically the differences are more cultural.
t. John Ulsterman

>>53222234
Irish aren't even people

>>53222314
Well I mean, Objectivism is fairly popular, so at least one of those colonies is going to succeed, for a given measure of success. Would require a perfect storm though, and probably wouldn't last too long.

>>53222395
As someone who's cultural identity is based around not wanting to be Irish, I quite like the Irish

>>53222288
This is the exact reason why I said, that humanoids were okay.
Not fucking rubber forehead.
The chance that a species will evolve in a similar way to humans, as in "with 2 legs and 2 arms", is very real.
If you think there is a chance, that they will actually have sufficiently similar facial features for us to categorize them into "dudes with elf ears lmaooo" fuck you and your startrek yaoi fanfiction reading ass ironically famalan.

>>53222314

> nationalism is equivalent to objectivism

my man you don't know nearly as much about political philosophy as you think you do

>>53222485
I think you need a beer and a good soak, anon. Relax dat ass.

>>53222532
If it's easy for a group to charter a ship and claim a habitable planet, then I guarantee you'll see every fringe political movement setting up "utopias" too

>>53222418
It would work as long as the colonists weren't autistic, but then they probably wouldn't have become Objectivists.

Among aliens? Very diverse.

Among humans? Not diverse at all.

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>>53222067
>When Americucks go on about their Irish ancestry and unironically celebrate St Patricks day

Everyone knows Asians will be the only surviving race in the future

They're small, efficient and breed like rabbits

we don't stand a chance

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>>53221100

There's a big difference between diversity being shoved down your throat and it being done well.

It makes perfect sense that the people in The Expanse are diverse as fuck due to the mass emigration from every single country. At no point in that series so far has there been a "muh ancestor" or "muh dominant genes". Its one of the few cases done well.

Grow up, get mad when they do it for no reason aka what's about to happen to space-marines in the next edition only to win GW some PC points.

>>53222634
>What is genetic engineering

So funnily you are right but for the wrong reason.

>>53221315
>Voyager above andromeda
>LEXX below SGU
>Babylon 5 not god tier
you need to get a MRI, anon.

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>>53221100
All out.

>>53222432
The top 5 list of worst kinds of people goes like this:

>Gypsies
>North Africans
>Irish
>South Americans of any kind
>Pakistanis

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>>53221100
White ethno space. Like 40k and the jetsons

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>>53222670
>aka what's about to happen to space-marines in the next edition only to win GW some PC points
>believing a bad forced meme

>>53222861
Wtf are you on about?

>>53222889
Maybe I misread, but you seem to imply something about forcing diversity into Space Marines. Which means that you probably believe in this "femmarine" nonsense. Is that right ?

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>>53222973
No, i'm talking about the spoiled chapters which includes a nubian/egyptian one featured on GW's own site a few months back which will be added to the lore.

The femmarine's have also recently been leaked though by the modelers desu

>>53222811
Can't comment on the rest of those bar gypsies/Irish Travellers, they are pretty terrible. Never met any Roma

But the Irish aren't that bad? A wee bit arrogant maybe, and here in the North the Sinners are a pain, but they're generally dead-on. Or are you talking about diaspora Irish?

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>>53223026
>The femmarine's have also recently been leaked though by the modelers desu

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>>53223026
(you)

>>53223026
We already have space niggers, space mongols, the wolfing wolfen wolfmarines of wolfris, brooding emos, magpies, roman wannabes, not!vampires, and the Rubrics are already vaguely Egyptian themed, so I'm surprised we don't have a Loyalist Egyptian themed chapter already.

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>>53223026
>The femmarine's have also recently been leaked though by the modelers desu
I don't believe you, but since I want this to be true...
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>>53223026
>which includes a nubian/egyptian one featured on GW's own site a few months back which will be added to the lore.
That sounds cool though, the dumb expy's of human culture taken to ridiculous stereotypes which made up various SM chapters has always been neat.

As long as they don't forget about the melachromatic organ then who cares?

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>>53223534
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>>53223143
>>53223124
>>53223120
>People claim its a ruse
>Don't even remember the shitstorm that happened when the whole backstory was "Oi we forgot them but found this paper that said they existed way back then"
>Don't even remember the sperg-rage when all their models where slightly taller and all the comparison meme's

Oh boy. Won't let me post through spam filter though, just search "GW bringing nubian" and its the first hit on DDG

>>53223568
>What to Bring | GW Housing | Division of Student Affairs | The George ...
>Dongolese Nubian: A Lexicon - Page 61 - Google Books Result
>For Freshmen: How to pack for GW – The GW Hatchet
Go fuck yourself

>>53222775
smexi

>>53221315

I would put Nadesico a little higher, it had a good anti-escapism message.

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>>53223568
Dude, I even checked 2^3 ch /tg/ to see if the had anything on that and I found nothing, so post proofs, faggot.

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>>53223739
Not him, but come on. You asked for this.

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>>53223807
I'm not angry per se, mostly disappointed.

>>53222395
Just like the British, then.

>>53221100

I like to mix it up. Sometimes it's fun to have a few races, and sometimes it's fun to go all out and have a bunch. I personally find that a lot of races is betted for high flying adventures and things like that, while a few races is good for games with clear direction, but there are exceptions. It's all a game of pretend, so ya gotta mix it up from time to time. If we wanted the same rote shit every day we'd play Real Life TTRPG.

>>53221100

More diverse then that picture at least.

Black women are double-dipping on the minority quota and thus cheating. If you have a black chick then you need at least one more person who is also either brown or a woman.

>>53225089
There are fucking rules for this?

Just do what you think is fun

>>53223568
>Claims that I think that I was part of the "it's a ruse cruise".
>Completely misses the fact that I was actually surprised we didn't have loyalist Space Egyptians already.

>>53221264
>Orion's Arm
It seems like a really interesting setting if you can get past how fucking dense and poorly formated the wiki is

>>53225107
The great thing is that there's a certain definition of "diverse" that is actually perfectly homogeneous and has no room for differences or under-utilized concepts or backgrounds.

>>53222087
>Hey there Jimbo

>>53225089
I know the lighting makes it hard to tell, but one of the guys is Indian.

>>53225107

>There are fucking rules for this?

There's rules for everything anon

>Just what do you think is fun

Baiting alt-right retards on an anonymous Ukrainian basket-weaving forum.

>>53225163

Ah is it the pilot dude? I thought he looked vaguely Arabic or something but I was too lazy to confirm.

Moderately. Fedspace is ostensibly mostly chinese, euroafrican and mideastern but they're super into genemodding and body art and ruled by corporations so there's a shit ton of bodily diversity on the market.
The Republic doesn't do that whole thing in general, so they're mostly the light golden brown of all of the Americas fucking each other
Colonials and Nomads are kinda all over the place, to the point where the latter are only debateably human.

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I require enough xenos for a purge play through in Stellaris. However the humanoid xenos can all stay.....

>>53221100
I'm more frustrated that there's no ethnic diversity among aliens.

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>>53225589
how do you know that there isn't?
due to you being not of their species, how would you notice the potentially small differences between them
humans have it easy with skin colour being so blatant, but there are other racial differences, shape of the skull being one of them
with ayys, they might be all grey or green skinned, but with differences between them that a person not of their species would not notice, or be able to notice

>>53222811
>South Americans of any kind
So you mean the Continent of South America, or the American South?

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Fleshbags, out! The Future belongs to us!

>>53221100
Internally consistent

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>>53226789

You don't know he means people from South America? Or are you one of those European fags who get butthurt when someone says "American" and you go "oh but where are they from? XD" like you don't know Americans is used for people from the USA and if anyone meant people from Canada or another country on the American continent they'd just say their nationality? If so, stay asspained and pic related.

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>>53226709
And in real life that'd be a good point.

Not the anon you responded to, but in my squishy human fiction I'd like my squishy human brain to be able to see the diversity, even if it's just dumb facepaint.

>>53221100
I'd like the author(s) to go nuts. Tons of different humans, aliens, AI if they can make it work, all that shit, please.

>>53227585
Actually I was asking because some people have....Strong opinions on the American South. Good job looking defensive through.

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>>53221315
>Lexx lower than High-Mid
>no Starship Troopers at all
When anon woke up this morning, pic related

>>53221315
this is PERFECT if you swap the God and Low-Mid tiers

>>53227791
Niggers aren't allowed on the internet. Go rob a liquor store.

>>53222311
I mean, at least with christian metaphysics in effect, humanity are extra-dimensional exiles.

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>>53227585
>Durr I'm an idiot and don't read the question hurrr I'm going to be rude for no reason. errrrr
>>53226789
He probably means south america, since it's violent all the time. The american south is in someplaces heavenly, provided you don't act like a fucking Yankee.

>>53227901
>The american south is in someplaces heavenly, provided you don't act like a civilized human being.

>>53221315
>actually enjoying the original star trek

>>53227917
No siree, a yankee is a motherfucke who comes where he isn't wanted, shouts stupid opinions that go against god and country, and is mad when you won't accept his viewpoints and tell him to fuck off across the Mason-Dixon.

Occasionally they come from California, sometimes they arise from people in Dixie, and we lose another soul. But it's okay, we just tell them to shut up, leave, and give them directions that go through the mountains in Arkansans, and they never come back.

>>53227942
how does it feel to know the whole world regards you as sister-banging retards, not just the north? i'm not european before you start shrieking about europoors.

>>53228000

You should be more accepting of other cultures anon, if he claims it is his god-given right to fuck his sister or his pig (not that there is much of a difference down in the deep south) who are you to judge?

>>53228037
but i am being accepting of his culture anon, i'm oppressing someone from a group i don't really view as human, that's like the south's founding concept.

>>53228104

Fair enough, you got me there, anon.

also i like my space future as diverse as possible, that allows for more mutual suspicion and bloodletting, which're good story drivers.

>>53228104
Less than 5% of southerners actually owned slaves. That's like saying all black people are bad because 10% of them are criminals.

>>53228187
The problem isn't that we did or didn't own slaves. The problem is we didn't genocide them after the war.

>>53222260
I could only recognize Gordan Freeman, a Big Daddy and Master Chief. Who were the others? Who was the Cowboy?

>>53228263

I imagine the cowboy is the protagonist from red dead redemption. As for the others, I think the guy next to Gordon is Wander from Shadow of the Colossus. Below big daddy and MC looks like Sam Fisher and Big Boss. Not sure who the guy with the bird is.

>>53228263
The Cowboy is either Red Dead man.

Other than that: Sam Fisher, someone from Metal Gear maybe? Sitting together. No idea who bird man is. the next one looks like someone from a JRPG or something. Then there's the three sitting together at the bottom of the comic. The buff one is of the main Characters of the webcomic this is from, then either that character's girl or someone from Avatar, then the actual main character in the beanie.

The comic is Manly Guys Doing Manly Things.

http://thepunchlineismachismo.com/

It's ok. I liked it but stopped reading for no real reason, so it's probably still good.