/hhg/ - Horus Heresy General - Loyalist Edition

1st for 6th legion for once!

>>53220368
Yeah, we can throw you this bone, I guess.

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Got this guy minus the halberd as a gift today, but I have no use for him as is.
Maybe he'd work as a Knight-Errant? I mean, once I trimmed-down the =][= symbols he has all over and replace shoulders and weapons. Spruce him up with some FW bits and such...

Deploying summary that I was working on. Should have been faster with the baking.

Fortifications edition
I hate Deathstars subedition

Many Legions wrote their Christmas lists but only Custodes got presents, Psykers are malleable and WB lost their only good toy. The Iron Cage was reenacted by young IW initiates and the Fists ordered new munitions for a revenge crusade. Mantas showed up and got swapped for stormbirds and 1kSons cannot into Daemons. All this and more in the last thread >>53196960

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Iron Cage: Suitable children's entertainment?

>>53220519
That sure is a lot of =][= to trim, though you might also be able to use them as mounting points if you have any kind of crests to decorate him with. Knight-Errant is probably the best fit, though he could also work well as almost any Loyalist HQ choice if properly cleaned up.

>>53220423
>throw a bone

In the army our MPs were known derogatorily as "dogs" and it was a punishable offence to make references to it, like offering them bones or treats.

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>>53220565
Kids do worse on the playground daily.

>>53220565
Yeah, totally:
>but when Wile-E-Dornote finally got past all the tripwires & falling rocks and burst into the shack, Roadpertter was nowhere to be found, only masses of dynamite with the fuses almost burned down

>>53220579
>That sure is a lot of =][= to trim

Well, seeing that Malcador's symbol is somewhat similar, the tiny ones with just a basic shape could probably pass. The chest one can be covered with, I dunno, some decorations (like an aquila incorporating Malcador's symbol or something?) and the leg ones might just need some green stuff to hide them. Are the ones on the cape raised or sunken? Either file them off or fill them with green stuff. The ones on the belt, the keys, etc. are fine.

>>53220642
I can actually totally see that happening in the cartoon. In fact, it probably did a couple of times. Now I just need to find a suitable scene and make a shitty gif from it.

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>>53220691
Actually, yeah, now that you mention it the Sigilite's symbol is fairly similar. Maybe he could make the one on the chest into a large version of that? It'd take some work with a dremel or such, but it should be doable.

Question for Blackshields: How do you kit out your reaver lords and marauders? Bolters for the squad seem kinda overpriced unless you have a really good plan for them.

>>53220642
>>53220704
>implying Wile E. and Roadrunner aren't Morty and Jaghatai

>>53221275
>morty teleports onto the white scars flagship only to find khan isn't there, and it's about to explode
It fits perfectly.

>>53220896
Wih a reaver lord you either commit or you leave him at home. Put him on some bike, give him all defensive options you can, hand him a MC thunderhammer and rad grenades and make him a chymeriae. At that point he *may* do okay.
As for marauders, let others do the shooting, they want to be in melee fast. Don't overcomplicate them.

>>53221295
>wile/morty is one of the smartest animals/primarchs in the desert/galaxy, but to catch his prey/nemesis the superfast unner/warhawk he has to turn to the dodgy works of acme corporation/the scions of the warp which eventually lead to his humorous dismemberment/tragic possession
I think we're on to something.here.

Friendly reminder that
>traitor Russ
>traitor Custodes
>loyalist Magnus
are completely legal options. If FW didn't think it was fluffy for Custodes to fight alongside Gal Vorbak they wouldn't have let you do it.

Want to get into HH,
Which legions is better, Thousand sons or Imperial Fists?

need help with representing a myrm cult infantry only mech reductor list.
anything i can optimise or replace?
anything to make it more fluffy?

+++ 2485pts] +++

++ Matrix of Ruin (Mechanicum: Taghmata Army List) ++

+ HQ +

Magos Prime: Abeyant, Archmagos Prime, Chainfist, Cyber-familiar, 4x Cyber-occularis, Djinn-skein, Machinator Array, Mastercraft a single weapon, Myrmidax, Power axe, Rad Furnace, Rad Grenades

+ Elites +

Myrmidon Secutors
. Myrmidon Lord: 2x Graviton Gun
. Myrmidon Secutor: 2x Graviton Gun
. Myrmidon Secutor: 2x Graviton Gun

+ Troops +

Thallax Cohort: Ferrox, 3x Thallax

Thallax Cohort: Ferrox, 3x Thallax

Thallax Cohort: 3x Thallax

Thallax Cohort: 3x Thallax

+ Fast Attack +

Ursarax Cohort: 3x Power Fist, 3x Ursarax

Ursarax Cohort: 3x Ursarax

+ Heavy Support +

Myrmidon Destructors: 2x Graviton Imploder, 2x Myrmidon Destructor
. Myrmidon Lord: Graviton Imploder

Myrmidon Destructors: 2x Irradiation Engine, 2x Myrmidon Destructor
. Myrmidon Lord: Irradiation Engine

Myrmidon Destructors: 2x Myrmidon Destructor, 2x Volkite Culverin
. Myrmidon Lord: Volkite Culverin

Myrmidon Destructors: 2x Conversion Beamer, 2x Myrmidon Destructor
. Myrmidon Lord: Conversion Beamer

+ Legion +

Legio: Ordo Reductor

>>53221470
So, just to get the obvious out the way:
>1) Are you capable of painting yellow?
If not, then this one's easy.

>>53221495
Yellow sounds hard

>>53221451
Reminder that nowhere does it say what level of of alliance Talons are with anyone else, so you can't ally them to Gal Vorbak.
Everything else you say is true though.

>>53221531
>The 17th Legion Astartes: the Gal Vorbak
Kek. I guess they don't have anything else going for them at this point.

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A very slow and delicate hour later, I've got 10 more greenstuff shoulder wings for my EC! Now to let them cure and they'll be ready to go!

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>>53222595
good work my fellow tabletop standard brother.

>>53222595
Gorgeous, anon.

>>53222754
Thanks mate
>>53222648
Not lookin to bad yourself. Still WIP? Or did you just want something quick and dirty?

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>>53220286
How's everyone's Saturday night? Also r8 my list of languages to learn.

>>53223121
I can't figure out how to upvote your post. Do you have a blog or something I can subscribe to?

>>53223186
What's it like being such an insufferable faggot?

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>>53223703
I dunno, let's ask the guy who posted about language learning on a plastic toy subsection of an Iranian sheep-herding imageboard

>>53224141
Just the fact that you're being bothered by him versus ignoring him is just showing that you're part of the problem.

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>>53222648

>>53222648
What tank is that?

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>decide to play 30k instead of 40k because I really like space marines
>can't decide on legion
>finally settle on one
>no wait, this other one is cooler
>indecisionintensifies.jpg
>in the end just play mechanicum so I don't have to choose
Anyone else do this?

>>53220286
I need some help, /hhg/. My friend has started reading the novels and wants to get into the tabletop. To give him a taste, I want to start off with a basic game of 30K.

My biggest issue lies with the fact that I'm struggling to make 2 fair 500 point lists. He likes Iron Warriors and I play Dark Angels. What would a semi-balanced 500v500 list be?

>>53224470
>Not going shattered legions or blackshields

>>53224495
Make your list weaker than his so he feels like a big man when he wins and doesn't get scared away.

>>53224349
Looks like a stormlord.

>>53224495
Probably better to jump it up to 750. Playing at 500 is pretty much just two tac squads a side grinding into each other.

>>53221483
Your compulsory hq must be a (arch)magos reductor. Can't just use a myrmidax sadly

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>>53224470
You made the right choice.

>>53224511
Agreed.

Dark Flakk Missiles worth the 50 points on a Heavy Support Squadron?
I have a Contemptor-Mortis which could provide some anti-air firepower but I feel it may be lacking.

Help me make a decision regarding my LoW, probably the only one I will ever plan on buying.

Falchion or Fellblade?

>>53224470
I'm a sucker for the Thousand Son's aesthetic, and the later Rubric's colors, but I prefer playing loyalists without psykers. The Ultramarines would appeal based on their aesthetic, but that's what most of the shop plays nearby.

>>53220519
I second the idea to make him a Knight-Errant.

>>53225466
Look friendo, you seem nice enough, and your models are solid, but drop the name. It's nothin but trouble and there's no reason to have it.

>>53225783
OH woops, Its mostly satirical, I didn't realize the name field saved its contents between browser sessions.

Could you guys give me some example lists I should AVOID making? For each other's fun.

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MkIII is the only acceptable resin basic marine model because it avoids the twiggy leglet syndrome. This is a fact.

Anyone have the Meduson Enhanced Audio version? Finally getting caught up on HH stuff

>>53224495
750-1k might be better. 500 doesn't even give you enough room for an HQ choice on either side.

>>53226015
Damn MkIII could pop a 3+ ceramite melon with his thighs

How much points do you spend on HQ slots?
I prefer having units complement one another and I like the Herals, but as it's a Support Officer I'll have to take at least one more character. I don't like Praetor as it's just an expensive beatstick, Delegatus is just a poor man's MotL, but Herald doesn't have access to TDA which irks me to no end as I'm stuck with Legion Terminators. I'm building Dark Angels, will try to aim for 2-3000pts for each wing, or the Fallen if they make them interesting enough.

>>53226313
Different consols for different wings. Been trying to come up with a few prototype builds for each of them minus a couple. Either way you'll need a Delegatus or Preator, if only because DA is good when using it's wings and/or a LoW.

The Delegatus comes as a discount so I ussually run him under 2k.

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Anyone have some sauce for Shattered Legions audiobook?

Also Garro?

>>53226645
I looked it up on audiobookbay, nothing yet, but so far all of the audio books of the series have been uploaded there so be patient.
Do you have a text version perhaps?

>>53226515
Delegatus is useful as it's cheap (Ravenwing - Jetbike, Ironwing - Combi-bolter also more points left for tanks), but I like that decisive WS5, for the time being at least.
You're that Ironwing guy, aren't you?

>>53225468
If you only have the Mortis, yeah, i'd say so.

>>53226716
No but ive got the old Meduson .mobi, but I mostly listen to the books while driving and cleaning.

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>>53221470
Why the Iron Warriors of course.

>>53221470
>which legion is better
go and stay go
pick your army based on the fluff, not how strong they are on the tabletop

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>>53226267
Melon fuckers leave the fucking thread.

>>53226645
Seconding this.

>>53226901
Same here, multitasking is good. I also listen while I paint.

>>53227019
*tips fedora*

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>>53227019
Instead of feeding him the wrong info just so he can commit to the "wrong" legion.
>>53227054
Ño.

>>53227088
There is no wrong Legion.

>>53227103
>"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""wrong""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""2
See them quotation marks? Also, there are two: Word Bearers and Night Lords.

>>53227127
So you'd refuse to play anyone with a Night Lords or Word Bearers army?

Personal preferences aside, those armies can work and you can win with them, same as any other Legion. There's no auto-lose army in 30k, and if you ignore the cheese of the Custodes, no auto-win one either.

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>>53227088
Are you taking the piss?

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>>53227147
No, anon. You don't refuse to fight "wrong" legions. You just kill them.
Anon, holy shit srsly. You're taking things WAY too seriously, please be drunk.
Let's recap things:
In the event that people ask you "hey what's the stronger / better legion?" you tell them "it's the Word Bearers and Night Lords".
That way, you can indulge in destroying your enemies, to drive them before you, to take from them all their control points, to see those they love in tears, to ride their metal boxes, and to hold forts wives and artillery in your arms....PLUS the fact you'll be BTFO'ing Word Bearers or Night Lords.
Or tell him to play Space Wolves.
HHG seems to hate those guys.

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>>53227072
Same. I'm about to start painting on twitch soon i think so that might cut into some of that. Here's one of my more re cent models

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>>53227177
But without sugar because I'm sweet enough ;^)

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Testing ideas for an EC sigil for my vehicles. Nothing is glued down just yet though. Might save it for something bigger like Land Raiders, since I don't have many bits or options.

>>53227240
Kek, I remember that picture from a thread long ago.

>>53224470
>invest in a bunch of Alpha Legion
>like painting white
>World Eaters have cool armor
>so do White Scars...
>Iron Warriors are fun to paint too...
>you know a Pre-Heresy Word Bearer army would be cool
>tech thralls and Myrmidons are sick

Yeah I know this feel

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>>53224470
>>53227381
I have about 5k Mechanicum and counting....... no gods, no masters!

That said I still constantly flip between legions as well. I have done like 5 legion forces now and sold them on to continue my never ending quest for more mans of differing colours!

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>>53227381

>>53224495
My first 40k game was 500, back in 5th Ed. My army was helbrecht, two minimum tac marine squads, an assault squad and a Dreadnought. My friend had some Dark Angels SC for a HQ, a termie squad, two tacs and a predator.

Considering how expensive points wise 30k is, I think you'd be better off at around 1000.

A HQ, two troops choices and 2 units from either elites, FA or HS is pretty much the bare minimum you should aim for. You want the armies to be small enough that the game doesn't drag and trying to micro everything overwhelms your mate, but enough variety that it isn't just power armor squads plinking shitty bolters off each other for 40 minutes.

>>53226313
I've normally got a basic Magos Reductor with Machinator for the compulsory slot and to tend the artillery, then a massively overgeared Archimandrite with about 350-370 points of wargear. He tends to do pretty damn well for someone who costs like a Primarch, and buffs better than all of them.
HQ Slot #3 is for messing about with the different Magos types and trying a new one every game.

Also there's the Force Commander that comes along sometimes, he's just got the basic Tainted Weapon for the occasional lucky Rend, plus 70pts of Provenances.
So all told about 620 points on HQ units, at 3k.

Just starting 30k, going with Word Bearers - if I take the serrated sun RoW, is there any way I can take terminators not in a flyer or anvillus? It doesn't look like there is a way to take them in a normal pod.

>>53228216
Play shattered legions and take DS IF or NL.

>>53228520
>shattered legions
That's your answer to everything, if it were up to you the game would be nothing but newt eyes, I mean shattered legions.

>>53228555
That's because it is the answer to everything, trips.

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>>53220286
ONIICHAN BUY ME EITO EDITION

>>53220286
So I've got a hankering to do some dudes' boxes in an alien camo scheme like that fw sulfur desert camo.

Any wise anons have an RT era book with some patterns for inspiration?

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>>53228693
Not sure if it's quite what you want, but I've got these.
1/2

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2/2

>>53228739
>>53228746

I will meditate on these images, wise anon.

>>53225468
Both my legions have a Mortis and flakk missile HSS. Because I'm imaginative like that.

>>53220286
>>53216547
>tournaments have to be cringy
Whatever happened to being the one black guy who turned up and played white salamanders

>>53228785
black, white, pissy yellow, dirty red - in tournaments we're all equals my friend

>>53221470
>most fun
Iron warriors, salamanders and death guard
>strongest
Imperial fists pride of the legion with 2 heavy bolters and sniper in rhinos

>>53222648
KA?
Also, why don't they have chain bayonets at the least

>>53224470
When I'm done painting I'll have 2k of every legion and 5k of IW

>>53225561
primarch
>>53226015
THICC

>>53227244
Is that an old Wych part?

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>>53228658
>alpha legion isn't the box photo

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>>53228845

>>53222648
Where are the bloody Decals KA? They aren't real World Eaters without the jaws on their shoulders.

Is it a good idea to start a word bearers army with the support cadre

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>>53228903
>he plays second legion
>>53228942
what iss it with all this tau posting recently

>>53228948
No tau only faith. https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/Word-Bearers-Legion-Support-Cadre

Anyone who read Pert: Hammer of Olympia: Do you guys know which page, or which chapter mentions Pert's penis? I gotta translate this and show this to my fellow players.

>>53227381
>>53224470
Can't help it either

>First started Death Guard.
>Oh, Iron Warriors are cool and easy to paint.
>I like purple, maybe time for a little Emperor Children detachment. The EC sure dicked the IW over in Angel Exterminatus.
>Fulgrim is BFF with Ferrus, I should make some Iron Hands. Those cold and logic fuckers are brutal and greasy.
And that's how my hobby projects snowball, until I'm left with a bunch of half finished armies.

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>>53228972
what the fuck, why did they do that
>>53229010
CUTTTTTTTTTEEEE

>>53228959
Ashen circle are sezy but not that good on the table, persoanlly I'd just say hordes of marines and cultists

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>>53229010

>>53228804
>dirty red
no, I refuse to be considered equal to fucking Word Bearers players. They are worse than the Thousand Sons and Space Wolves players combined

>>53229251
You called?

>>53229251
What's so bad? As far as I know they just poke at the UMdudes and lament shitty rules.

>>53229251
Word bearers may be worst, but their players are always pretty bro, they know they're playing the villian. I've never met someone ADB-tier retarded enough to think chaos are the good guys for real. Yiffs players think they're the best and thousand sons players think they did nothing wrong

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>>53229357
if the thousand sons did something wrong, then I don't want them to have done anything right

>>53229357
Personally I like them because more than any other Legion they used to be the good guys. They got their planets in decent order, didn't scare them into shaky compliance or butcher the entire planet. They fell the farthest. Like most zealots, really.
Also they make great cartoon villains to do maniacal rants with in silly games. Muhahaha DAEMONS! helps break the irritated mood when the store manager's son is ranting about his boring Spartan/Mortar/Suzy/Levi Dread army being the best and how his Legion is perfect. Everyone else is really chill apart from maybe NLdude.

>>53229402
See, Night Lords and Word bearers, in my experience, always know they're the unforgivable villians of the setting, and are therefore the chillest dudes. Its the Yiffs, Thousand Sons and IWs who attract the autists incapable of at least attempting to seem normal

>>53229251
Have you lost your temper, Roboute?

>>53229435
Why be normal when you can be bitter?

>>53229485
Because excessive bitterness causes halitosis and axe bodyspray, as far as i can determine

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>>53229357

>>53229498
World Eaters get to upgrade to Axe Bodyspray for free

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>>53229435
>IWs who attract the autists incapable of at least attempting to seem normal

Normalcy is overrated.

>>53229435
Here, the Ksons player is actually pretty cool, if perhaps a little touchy-feely. This is Britain, though, so that pretty much starts at "Is ever willing to be within two feet of another person".
The Yiffs dude is a pain in the ass, though. He once called my DGbro a cheat for killing Russ on Overwatch with shredding flamers after I put him on two wounds with an artillery strike, despite using his dice for it at the time in plain view. I think he's one of those people who assumes Primarchs are unkillable gods of the battlefield and that anyone not an Astartes or Primarch is worthless, though, which has led to him taking on entire Levy Blobs with 13 Power Weapon Grey Slayers. It did not end well.

I tend to dominate the meta with Mechanium due to not having deathstars and meta units everywhere, and I hate it. Just bring a fucking Tactical Squad or even some sodding aircraft and I'll die, just don't expect to kill Haywire and Tarpits: The Army with Leviathans. I'm steadily trimming bits off my army, now down to two Basilisks, ten footslogging Hoplites and a squad of Myrmidons for damage units and uncontrolled Vorax running around.

Do the mechanicum players here make up their own scheme and forge world or go with something from the books? I don't know what I'm going to do with mine. I like Xana's fluff but the bronze and bone doesn't appeal to me.

>>53227206
>ride their metal boxes, and to hold forts wives and artillery in your arms
Look I am all about driving my enemies before me but this is getting gratuitous

>>53229251
>Dirty red
Oh I thought he meant communist. But Word Bearers are almost worse

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>>53229656
Mine is custom, green and brass with orange glowy bitz, but I think the vast majority of the armies I see are Mars standard pattern.

Xana has about sixty colour schemes, though. Bronze and bone are Taghmata Scoria and Malinax respectively, there's ash grey and red trim with brown-tinted metal for one of the Forge-fanes and we see an orange-tinted brass for another Vodian Magos.

>>53229584
>basilisks
Cool, you're Ordo Reductor then I take it?

Are they admeched up in any way?

>>53229743
Not at the moment, other than removing all the eagles all over the damned things and shortening the barrels to slightly above the narrowing point so they can be Medusae too, but I do eventually plan to add some gas tanks and Servitor loaders and such. They work for now, though.

For any of you Iron Warrior players out there, how tall are the iron circle models compared to a contemptor dread? I really like the look of them so I may end up repurposing them

>>53229656
I don't think the AdMech look right as anything but red, so mine are the traditional Martian scheme.

>>53229839
Pretty much exactly the same height.

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>>53229435
Word Bearers did nothing wrong at all

Primordial Truth is WHITE and REDPILLED, fuck off HEATHEN

>>53229251
You have lost your temper.

Is it normal to have Primarchs rocking up to every game? I've seen five games of Heresy at the local store now and there were nine Primarchs involved. I suppose I'll have to find room for a squad of Myrmidons or something if that's Heresy Standard.

>>53230382
It's pretty common, yeah. A combination of people wanting to have the character from the books in their army, and the urge to have a one-model deathstar.

>>53229510
I understand that reference

>>53229707
>I think the vast majority of the armies I see are Mars standard pattern
I blame that on all the schemes in the books being bland or garish.

>>53230382
Like 50+% of 30k players got into the game because they husbando a Primarch. It's not unusual.

>>53230597
I always wondered about that. Having book characters means it gets harder to develop your own fluff and looks weird when you shoehorn them into every battle. I guess I just prefer generics or rules counts-as myself. My one-model deathstar is a Knight or Baneblade variant, usually.
Still, time to prepare myself some countermeasures. it's Fulgrim, Curze, Angron, Mortarion and Magnus, and the last two look the problematic ones because Mech ain't scared. Not much I can do about Magnus, and Morty is immune to the Myrmidon trick and resistant to blasts. Step on him with a Knight or something?

>>53230631

Agreed there. Lucius is pretty cool, but white is a massive pain to paint, so there goes the alternative.
I never found the Primarchs particularly impressive characters, honestly. I quite like Pert when he's in artistic mode over autistic mode, but the rest seem a tad boring really.

>>53230720
Generally the best counter measure against Primarchs is just to feed them disposable blade-fodder in waves whilst basically ignoring them and destroying the rest of their army.

>>53230720
I'm surprised there are people like you in HH. Not as an insult, but just, if you're interested in making your own fluff, why not just play 40k? HH has a much smaller player base and I don't see the slight difference in rules being enough of a dealbreaker, especially as we're now trapped in 7ed.

>>53230803
That's perfectly doable, thanks. I play 40k Mech, so I'm not used to just having a tarpit I can toss at something. 20 no-Ldbuff Secutarii can't really cut it. Use what, two or three full squads of Adsec for a front line?

>>53230812

I find the setting better, as a whole, I enjoy the whole betrayal thing and personal nature of stuff (in a large scale , despite not liking Herohammer much) more than 40k's comic-book storyline with no real consequences. Lets me write a proper tragic story for my fluff and not feel like I'm deliberately wrecking myself compared to all the canon factions never taking any real consequences. The smaller playerbase isn't really a problem, there's a decent scene here and I don't get much spare time to play anyway. 7e rules work a damn sight better here, and I'm ambivalent on 8e anyway (RIP Templates, RIP Armour Values, everything else seems neutral to good) so it doesn't matter. Only thing I don't like is the Space Marines always bloody winning whenever they get in a scrap with or fight alongside the cogboys and how overhyped the Primarchs are, but that ain't much change from 40k.

Also, 30k Mechanicum have a much better faction dynamic, a proper sense of scale and very sexy and versatile models and rules compared to 40k, which are already pretty damn cool. That counts for a lot.

Haven't posted here in some time, regale me remberancers of /hhg/, it it still mainly the bitter IVth as most played here?

>>53232111
Nope. After the great autist purge of March we are all Ultramarines.

>>53232135
Hang on, I could have sworn we were all Death Guard after the great Word Bearer REEE-out of April.

>>53232111
There was a pretty massive shitstorm RE. tripfags a couple months back followed by more around the Word Bearers, threw everything up in the air a bunch. There seems to still be a lot of Iron Warriors around, but also now plenty of Death Guard too, and a few more Mech players like Coatl Anon and Genetor Anon. Sadly we are still Auxilialess.

>>53232245
>>53232179
>>53232135
Someone make a poll please

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>>53232135
Fuck you ultrafag

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>>53232450
>worst bearers
>shit eaters

still mad about losing the shadow crusade and the siege of terra are we?

Hopefully I didn't screw it up this time
http://www.strawpoll.me/12964099
N E W P O L L
E
W
P
O
L
L

>>53232595
You should have separated blackshields into "+1 S/T" and "everything else" like http://www.strawpoll.me/12964150

>>53232690
I only allowed myself a single meme.

>>53232590
>losing the shadow crusade
Yes, because the Ultramarines successfully prevented...
>The desolation of Calth
>The destruction of numerous recruitment worlds
>The death of Nuceria
>The capture of an Imperator Titan by a Legio containing only Warhounds
>The daemonic apotheosis of Angron
>The devastation of the Ultramarines fleet
>The Word Bearers and World Eaters from reaching Terra in time for the Siege
>The Ultramarines from being cut off from Terra until after the Siege
Man-Emperor, sons of Guilliman, did you manage to do anything other than not all die? Shit, by that measure the Iron Hands won a glorious victory on the sands of Istvaan V.

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>>53233108
>The desolation of Calth
still a loss for the word bearers

>The destruction of numerous recruitment worlds
gee we have 500 you got like 26 congrats you needed 2 whole legions for that

>The death of Nuceria
who cares your fleets got BTFO by big G's rag tag strike force

>The capture of an Imperator Titan by a Legio containing only Warhounds
congrats you now have one imperator titan. the imperium has a legion of 12

>The daemonic apotheosis of Angron
>betraying your ally for your own agenda
years later he gets his ass kicked by grey knights and does nothing at the battle of terra

>The devastation of the Ultramarines fleet
right back at you. hows your flagship looking?

>The Word Bearers and World Eaters from reaching Terra in time for the Siege
to lose

>The Ultramarines from being cut off from Terra until after the Siege
apparently only the blood angels needed to get back to stop you because you still lost

can word bearers do anything right?

>>53233285
>Calth, recruitment worlds
All we actually needed to fuck over you and half the rest of the Loyalists with the Ruinstorm. You never did anything with the other 474.
>Nuceria
You still lost most of your fleet too, and that ragtag force was nowhere near where it actually needed to be.

>Imperators
Mechanicum went Traitor too, there's a good pile of Imperators on either side.

>Angron failing
Not the WB fault he lost to GKs and didn't help much at Terra, even his slight assistance was better than none at all.

>Betraying allies
Er. Traitors? Not exactly got to be angels here, and you Loyalists left the Mechanicum to rot because you were too worried about a few thousand measly suits of armour, you dicks.

>Flagship
Was replaced twice over by ships that are still out there and can outfight anything less than the Phalanx or the Speranza, and we still won the orbital fight at Terra so no matter.

>Losing Terra
Not our fault Horus couldn't win, Word Bearers were busy summoning legions of daemons to grind down the palace. If anyone, blame the EC who ran off to masturbate with ground-down civvies as lube.

>>53233285
>>The desolation of Calth
>still a loss for the word bearers
They turned the third most important world in your fiefdom into a dead world and you won because you killed all their suicide troops before you all died? Try again.

>>The devastation of the Ultramarines fleet
>right back at you. hows your flagship looking?
Victorious and not fleeing.

You sound like an Imperial Fist trying to claim that the Iron Cage was a mighty victory that went entirely to plan.

>>53233715
>You sound like an Imperial Fist trying to claim that the Iron Cage was a mighty victory that went entirely to plan.
But that's almost entirely true, due to the magnificent Dorn's brilliance he managed to trick the Iron Warriors into purifying the legion of it's shame due to not taking on 4x the legions and not winning 100%.

>>53233285
>can word bearers do anything right?
Well, they caused the heresy. That's pretty impressive. Hell, I'm not sure any other legion, in a 1 vs 17 situation where they were the only legion working against the emperor, could have achieved what they did. Maybe the alpha legion could have got close by stirring up civilian insurrections, but I don't think they could break the galaxy in half like the word bearers did.

>>53233285
We know "many" worlds fell and that UMs and their descendants control "many" worlds, despite "many" having been lost in the heresy and "many" having been retaken in the scouring.
We will never know the exact numbers.

>>53233711
>>53233715
>not our fault
>not our fault
>not our fault
Typical Word Bearer attitude.

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hello less perfect brothers

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>>53233715
>They turned the third most important world in your fiefdom into a dead world and you won because you killed all their suicide troops before you all died

>all died
i think thats where your loss lies ultramar still stands buddy
:^)

>Victorious and not fleeing.

" As the fighting raged on the planet's surface, the burning shell of the Fidelitas Lex cut through the clouds into the planet's atmosphere, shuddering on its way east, rolling ever downwards, achingly slow for something of such scale. The weight of the Fidelitas Lex's massive plasma engines dragged the stern down first, colliding with the Nucerian ocean's surface far from shore, and at last bringing the great vessel to rest deep within its watery embrace."

this is a word bearer "victory"

>>53233849
>Hell, I'm not sure any other legion, in a 1 vs 17 situation where they were the only legion working against the emperor, could have achieved what they did.
The Imperial Fists would have probably fucked Terra up quite hard before anyone else got there.

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>>53233849
Bitch please you know the UMs could do anything because they were so many and Roboute Guilliman can't be killed and now can never be killed.
Not my legion, not a fan, but that's the ugly truth. Cawl is cool though.

>>53233849
>word bearers can only ruin everything

sounds about right

>>53233900
But muhstodes.

Fucking obnoxious Ultramemerinefags, I hate them as much as I hate yiffs.

>>53232135
Courage and honor, friend

>>53233950
>>>/1d4chan/

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>>53233788
>But that's almost entirely true, due to the magnificent Dorn's brilliance he managed to trick the Iron Warriors into purifying the legion of it's shame due to not taking on 4x the legions and not winning 100%.

>>53233872
And your justification for Sanguinius losing to Horus, Ferrus deciding to charge in at Istvaan and Corax getting screwed over by Alpharius? It is possible that everything is not one Legion's responsibility, including the personal combat skills of OTHER LEGIONS' PRIMARCHS.

>>53233888
>Fidelitas Lex
That's the shitty flagship, they replaced that with three much better ships of which two survived and again, can outfight anything in the UM navy easily. That stung a bit, nothing massive lost, though.
>Ultramar still stands
And is actively fucking you over because your Primarch was too concerned with getting his garden all pretty than going and fighting the important battles, so all those troops hanging around are worse than useless.

>>53233973
>implying 1d4chan hates ultras anymore

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just got betrayal at calth need to buy some upgrades from the EC on forgeworld

>>53233999
>And is actively fucking you over because your Primarch was too concerned with getting his garden all pretty than going and fighting the important battles, so all those troops hanging around are worse than useless.

dude how are warp storms even real? like wtf just go around it?

Will FW ever give us rules for skitarii and sicarian ruststalkers?

>>53233950
>>>/r/warhammer

>>53234081
>>53234139
Only if they release a bunch of overpriced horus heresy skitarii upgrade packs at the same time.

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>>53234139
>>53233973
Everyone else was fighting the heresy, nobody gives a fuck about Calth other than UMs and trolling Word Bearers.
The WEs were also there and they don't give a fuck about it, and Sanguinius left as soon as he knew Terra still existed, braving the Ruinstorm like Guilliman didn't do.

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It's time to build the Custodes and Sisters in my BoP box. Not planning on turning them into a full army, but I might run them as an allied detachment when my White Scars start playing Siege of Terra scenarios. Turn a Custode into an HQ (I'd convert one of the fancier spears like anon was doing recently) and run a squad of four spear guys (because they look better, imo) with a vexilla. But what about the sisters?

I really prefer the look of the Prosecutor cadre (bolters) over the swords, but it's hard to justify in-game. Though I might never actually use them in a game. But if I do, it seems like I'd want another five, which is affordable enough on eBay, and double the size of my useless bolter-armed sisters. Or do I justify it by saying I don't want to pay the money for an Acquisitor so if they're footslogging they might as well be objective-sitters which means guns make sense?

>>53234083
That takes a fucking long time, and if your planet is in the middle of it you don't really have a choice. It did the job, either way.

>>53234278
>But what about the sisters?
You can't use them without a SoS HQ, so you'd better de-pimp your shield captain.

>>53229697
>almost
Almost.

So if FW was to go completely insane and stat stuff like Apophis Stormbirds, Ordinatus Majoris and Land Leviathans, what would they be armed with? I mean, we've pretty much already hit peak dakka rules with the insta-remove missiles on the Reaver and Warlord Titans and the Ulator Projector, so how much bigger can you get?

I mean, a model like that would take up most of the board, but whatever, FW gonna FW.

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>>53233888
>ultramar still stands
Don't you mean "The Imperium Secundus" you totally 100% loyal Legionnaire.

>Flagship
>Fidelitas Lex
Whatever made you think I was a Word Bearer?

>>53234083
>His navigators can't operate in 8 dimensions without resorting to an allegory
>laughinghouseCalliden.jpg

>>53234352
Crap, forgot. Alright, I'll need another set of Sisters for sure and run a Centura and 9 Prosecutors, and a 5-man squad of Custodes.

How do you build an Imperial Fists army? Pride of the Legion for BS5 Sniper Vets and TH/SS or Assault Cannon Termies? I kind of want to go full retard and build a Dorn deathstar for megapoint games. Dorn, Primus Medicae, Terminators, all zooming around in the Aetos Dios.

>>53235273
You could run an excrutiatus cadre for delicious rending shooting, if you don't mind a little convertin'.

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Ultramaweenies BTFO, how can little blue dicks recover? Worst legion

>>53234793
All those things are probably going to get models in Epic after it releases in 2028

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Are Flamestorm Predators worth taking, or should I just stick to Predcannon+Las?

>>53233788
I laughed.

>>53235514
What is this from?

>>53235381
I mean I built mine around a veteran Siege company. Lots of Veterans, plenty of Vindicators, small chunk of Cataphractii, some long range firepower, two Xiphon for protecting the siege units/strafing enemy fortifications, and Breachers for fluff.

>>53235526
Well yeah, they did before, but I was wondering how you'd go about statting them here. Perhaps have the thing firing isn't actually a thing that happens in the game, since an Ordinatus would surely have a pretty insane minimum range. Just have it award victory points at the end of the game depending on how much health it's got, to represent it destroying important targets fucking miles away. Have the actual model just bristling with guns that are supposedly secondary weapons but realistically are as powerful as any massive fortress, with battlements and such.

>>53235381
Firstly don't use a RoW. Swagsmund and Rogal turns all the good elites into troops. Run Leviathan FoC and add another LoW to your list on top of Dorn and his plane.

Vets are alright as replacements for facts, their points add up quickly though.

Termies are built to flavor.

>>53236414
Dorn's plane is a Dedicated Transport for him, it doesn't need LoW slot so he could have four LoWs if he wanted.

>>53236446
Where are you getting 4?

>>53236544
Leviathan FoC, take Dorn and the Aetos Dios as one slot then add two more generic LoWs in the other two.

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>>53229010
>White Scars are my favorite legion, I'm gonna play them.
>JFC, I can't afford these bikes in appropriate numbers.

>I'm gonna go Night Lords. I've always had a love for their unapologetic edge and ADB's take on them. Also, Sevatar is awesome.
>But they're SUCH raging assholes!

>I know, I'll do Blackshields! That way, I don't have to choose a legion, and I like the idea of a rogue army of Space Marines carving out their own empire or something.
>I'm not feeling these rules, tho

>Hey, Thousand Sons are relatively cheap to buy, and I do love me some sorcerers and Egyptian themes.
>Everyone and their dog seems to be playing them now, and I don't think I have the balls for a 20-minute psychic phase.

>You know, I've always had a passion for Night Lords...

I actually finally settled on Night Lords after about a month or two of flip-flopping. I've been getting an urge to run a Luna Wolves army, but I've convinced myself to try and put that on the backburner until I get a reasonably-sized Night Lords army built and painted.

>>53236586
You could take 2 Typhons in each LoWs to get 6 Lords of War.

>>53236655
Yeah, and that. I have a slight hatred for that tank family, though, because Spartan deathstars and Typhons are about as point-and-click as you can get. Probably hypocritical as fuck given I use a Myrmocarid as my counter.

>>53236613
Before you go balls deep on NL though, at least practice your ability/patience to free-hand lightning bolts on some spare minis. While you can easily paint a NL force in purely navy, crimson, and white, as the defining motif of the faction you should be at least prepared to paint lightning now and again

>>53236655
I thought leviathan only allowed two LoWs, I have to reread some things I guess.

>>53236613
The Curzefag will be proud of you.

>>53236613
Is this why no one plays white scars, despite their strong rules? Too much money?

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anyone have any tips for running Death Seekers blackshields? I've always liked big hardy infantry groups and stubborn bitterness but with marauders being so costly to equip I'm not entirely sure to what to go with.

>>53236812
Lord of War as HQ, then you get 2 slots which you can fill with 2 Typhons or Knights each as they have less than 8HPs.

>War Machine Detachment: 1-2 Super-heavy vehicles of the same unit type, each with a Hull Points value of 8 or less, and each chosen either from the specific army list for the Primary Detachment, the Questoris Knights army list found in the Crusade Imperialis army list, or the optional Super-heavy list found on page 10

>>53236892
That and all the white.

>>53236892
That, and painting an army entirely in white is a pain in the arse. But you are right, it's mostly the costs involved. At least with World Eaters you can get away with just focusing on tons of choppy gits and a few anti-tank options to make sure you don't get completely fucked. WS is centered around the use of vehicles, from bikes on up.

Now, of course, you could always just go with a less 'fluffy' force and just roll with a standard FOC while keeping the bikes to a minimum. But at that point, if you're not playing for the bikes, for what other reasons would you pick White Scars?

>>53237736
Power glaives.

>>53238130
>Ultramarines

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I'm actually gonna call this squad finished. Don't think I can do any better. Man's gotta know his limitations.

>>53226645
I have all HH books up to 20 plus all Garro audios as well from Humble Bundle.

>>53238181
Legatone axes don't get the strength buff though.

>>53238199
Rotor cannons?

>>53238321
So? iirc, they're better in almost every case, but then again I think only IC's can take them, so no pimping any regular old tactical sarge

>>53238348
Yeah, the proteus ones with the xboxhuege backpacks.

>>53238389
Sick man. Out of curiosity, what's your list looking like? Non-Waac TSfags are rare to come by, and any man running rotor cannons certainly isn't Waac.

>>53236892
>>53237736
And all the bikes and vehicles have MkIV pilots which the White Scars HAD ALMOST NONE OF before jumping to Terra for the siege.

>>53238377
Bobby makes the Invincible Sues troops IIRC

>>53238199
Lookin' slick mate. Though I'm curious about the purpose for a rotor-cannon squad. Aren't they kinda shitty against Marines?

>>53238461
Yeah. White scars were almost exclusively mkII. At terra they had access to some of the newer marks that the imperial fists had taken from mars in their mission to scrounge as much war materiel as possible before mars completely fell.

>>53238445
Would boosting the Asphyx rotor cannons with divination be a dick move?

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Since I didn't get answers last time: best non-primarch character from a legion you don't play, and why is it this guy?

>>53238461
Which makes it all the more difficult to 'properly' build a Scars army. Though for bikes, you could also go with GW biker suits (MkVI and VII legs, which the Scars would've had for Terra).

If you're lookin' to run Mk II or III, yeah, you're in the special hell of models without a model.

>>53238515
Honest answer is I wanted them for fluff. My dudes are from Ahriman's circle and in ATS it says they were swapping out the old pattern rotor cannons.

Then the rules hit and now I want to try out shredding salvo with corvidae rerolls just to see what happens probably nothing but they cost something like 120 points so fuck it.

>>53238530
No. It's not a dick move to use good things in a friendly environment, only broken things.

>>53238549
Based Autek "you guys don't need that recruiting world any" Mor

>>53238530
Dude, they're rotor cannons. Of you can find a way to make them good then by all means rain pain on the sucker fighting you.

>>53236931
Marauders are quite cost effective if you compare a blob of them to Vets, point for point they are more cost efficient. I would avoid MSU and stick to blobs with apothecaries, be sure to keep in mind the forced infantry tax as you take vehicles.

You aren't tied down to a single wrought by war either, it's something you can declare before the start of the battle as you see fit.

I'm a big fan of Leviathan Dreadnaughts backed by artillery and foot slogging blobs of S5 T5 Thunder Warriors.

>>53236807
>>53236613
>>53236613
Get the FW etched brass, in addition to nice etches it has lightning stencils on the exterior

>>53238445
>Non-Waac TSfags
>my non-competitive list has Ahriman in it
sorry anon

Nah in all honesty my list is shit, it's a fluff list that has some good stuff in it because TS rules are overall relatively balanced with just some problematic combinations. I'm basically buying stuff to act as fluff characters and toys I never had when I was a kid. Currently have:
>Ahriman with 2 vet squads, one sits back one inna rhino, consul attached to the outflanking rhino
>1 actual Sekhmet (Tartaros)
>1 Legion Terminator Squad (Order of Ruin) that can also be used as Sekhmet (Cataphracti) if I want to be a cunt or save on points (it's hilarious how undercosted Sekhmet are)
>Seeker squad inna Proteus, the LR isn't bought yet
>Contemptor (that can double as an Osiron if I want more cuntishness)

to be added are the Blade Cabal inna drop pod, a dorito, a venator, an Achean beep boop and a quad mortar.
If anyone cares the finished army will be based on having Ahriman, Ctesias, Ignis+Credence, Sanakht, Gaumata, Gilgamos, Kiu and Sobek as the ICs or squad leaders.
Sobek is the rotor cannon sarge, he's modelled after his picture in Visions of Heresy. He's Ahriman's practicus from ATS. The rest are from the John French books, but Sanakht and Menkaura are confirmed to be in the HH BL series.
/blog

>>53238907
>Sanakht and Menkaura are confirmed to be in the HH BL series.
Who?

>>53238935
Sanakht is the TS legion champion, he's in an HH short story where Lucius kicks his ass. Menkaura is from the John French books but him and Sanakht are confirmed to appear in Crimson King.
Unless McNeil has changed his mind and replaced them with some Iron Warriors.

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>Golden One
>Aurelian (Golden)

This can't be a coincidence, it's good to have the real life Iron Pill on side.

He's more of a Blood Angel tbqh

>>53238907
Rock on man, looks like a fun list.

>where are all the fluffy TSfags in my area

>>53238977
Sanakht is going to be the Blade Cabal sarge (because the unit was blatantly based on him), Menkaura the Seeker squad sarge because he becomes the Oracle of Many Eyes.
I've thought about this too much.

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>>53238612
Fluff reasons are best reasons. Screw optimization, give me style!

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>>53238549
I like this handsome motherfucker.

>>53239042
>>53239026
Thanks anons, I was expecting harsh words.
I'm expecting the Rotors and Seekers to do jack shit and the Blade Cabal to delete a unit half their points cost then die. The actual meat of the list is standard shooty, but I'll be down on effectiveness due to 'wasting' points on the above guys and at that points level there'll be a Primarch or LoW to push my shit in.
Thankfully the local group appears fun-orientated in the main and I don't mind losing, I'm shit at the game and it's thematic for TS to get tabled after all.

>>53239195
Don't underestimate the two, seekers with combi-plays putting PE can even threaten a Primarch, and the rotors with div/asphyx could theoretically put out a train of pain on MEQs or less.

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>>53238663
Blackshields are probably my favourite part of the Horus Heresy, both fluff and rules. I wish we'd get a novel or two about them.

They're just so customisable, really allows you to make Your Dudes without being ridiculously overpowered or anything.

Chymeriae with 5 S/T and Pariah armour and bolters is probably the closest you can get to Thunder Warriors too.

>>53228739
not green salamanders
>fuck thats old.

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The manifestation of hate and murder is a better father than Emperor.

How does this make you guys feel? I mean when was the last time the Emperor hugged one of his sons and drew him close to his chest?

>>53239497
That's Rogue Trader old, back when the only flavor of Marine was BEAKIE, Marines were anything from local police to army grunts to special ops, and Marines actually used camo in combat.

>>53239371
I like the Unification Wars the most, there is an emphasis on a more barbaric and scientifically advanced humanity.

Techno-barbaians and Witch Kings, it doesn't get more metal than that for me.

One thing that saddens me is that Marauders don't get access to boarding shields. Fucking Christ.

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>>53238518
>>53238461
One option is to have them steal Mk IV armor from traitor legions during the four years that they spent... where were Chondax and Prospero? In that area.

>>53238571
I'm not even sure Mk VII came out until the Scouring.

Who'd win in an infantry-only WW1 style meatgrinder between the Iron Warriors and the Death Guard?

>>53239978
IW. They have more artillery.

>>53239664
Yeah, I like the implication that Terra was basically the worst shithole in an entire galaxy of shitholes, and even people living during the Great Crusade have come to believe that accounts of the Unification Wars are exaggerated hyperbole.

I can't remember which nation it was, but the techno-barbarians who were capable of building super soldiers equal to the Thunder Warriors, that the Emprah needed to send the Salamanders in en masse to destroy sounds cool. Plus the Albion proto-dreadnoughts. An entire army of mini-dreadnoughts sounds pretty cool.

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>>53239978
Don't fight, I love you both!

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>>53239045
>>53238549
>>53238620
The best boys are the ones who wear the Iron.
Dantioch&Polux OTP, Kalkator&Magneric best exes

>>53240060
What's the sauce/story behind that image?

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>>53240060
>Dantioch&Polux OTP
Truth.

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>>53239978
Honestly, probably IW, but DG would give them a run for their money nonetheless. It'd mostly depend on if the DG troops could survive long enough in the slog through the trenches to engage IW up close

>>53240118

Autek Mor's habit of throwing moons at the enemy

>>53239664
It's like Thundarr the barbarian, but more adult.

https://youtu.be/LhAobPugvsk

>>53240024
>>53239664
There really needs to be a unification wars era hero-quest style game where the occoasional run-in with one of the emperors thunder warriors is a big deal. That the group really needs to work well together to overcome. You could have everything from admech oriented quests to the assassination of a witch king or a gene wright or the discovery of a dark age era weapon (adrathic).

>>53240118
It's from a long time ago. Not sure if HH4 had just been released, but the thing is it was hillarious how Kyr was so enraged about the traitor Alphas that the first thing he did was to ram their ship in half. He literally throws the helmsman and maneuvers the ship into a ramming course while screaming curses and badwords. And Autek was famous for his moon attacks.
So we said, "what if the traitors had to fight a Shattered Legion fleet containing those two guys?"
The answer: Flee to the Magellanic cloud.

>>53240144
>It'd mostly depend on if the DG troops could survive long enough in the slog through the trenches to engage IW up close

Even warp-AIDS won't stop artillery turning you into paste.

>>53240222
>Kyr was so enraged about the traitor Alphas that the first thing he did was to ram their ship in half.

I really need to start reading the fluff sections...

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I've been mulling over the 1d4chan articles for 30k, and I've started considering allies. Are Militia decent as a source of extra bodies for tying up enemies and/or cheap armored support?

>>53240624
Militia are a great source of extra armour and objective-holder squads if you can get around their leadership. Don't expect any miracles in close combat by any means, but they can hold their own against other troops with the right loadout. I'm quite fond of running Survivors of the Dark Age and Alchem-Jackers, but there's plenty of other ways too. You could always be a WAAACfag and take Cult Horde and two maxed out auxiliary squads.

>>53240624
Yeah, but you need some way to shore up their leadership or they'll run like shit after one volley of boltgun fire.

Generally I just shove discipline masters in everything, makes them slightly better in close combat too, which is their other main weakness.

I honestly don't know that I can play HH anymore guys. Eight is spoiling me so far. HH is much better than 7th 40k, but 8th is looking fun as shit.

>>53241545
HH is going to the 8th edition systems.

Sooooo

>>53241585
>>53241545
HH is gonna be 8th too. Maybe not immediately, and people will probably be house-ruling what they can in the meantime, but HH will be 8th too.

>>53241704
>>53241585

If that's the case, than fuck yea. Can't wait to see hard HH night lords destroy battle shocks.

>>53241753
Is that the new "lose random people instead of being swept and everyone dying" thing?

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>>53241449
>>53241084
Should I be concerned about the lack of transport options, or will their purpose as meat-shields/objective campers make it pointless?

>>53241870
If you're taking fat blobs of rending zealot conscripts, you don't give a single fuck about transports.

>>53241870
Either do what >>53241894 says or take Survivors of the Dark Age and shove them into rhinos.

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>>53221483

Hi, brother, I actually use a list very similar to this in 30k. Pic related - my converted Myrmidon Graviton guys.

1st, as above, if you use Legio: Ordo Reductor, the requirement is you do need a Magos Reductor, he's your HQ tax for those benefits. That said, while Ordo Reductor is really nice to have with Thallaxes especially (I use them as Troops, too), it is by no means a must-have. If you want to stick with theme, I reckon sticking with your Myrmidax HQ and forego Ordo Reductor is totally valid.

2nd, I know you're going for an infantry approach, I felt the same way, but it turns out the MOST Myrmidons really do want some sort of Transport. I tried to get away with it myself, as I didn't like the Triaros model. The Conversion Beamer guys are (obviously) best in the back, but everyone else is actually mid-field rather than back-field. You may be able get away with maybe 2, just for the Secutors and Graviton Imploders, let your other Myrmidons run behind them using as cover.

Just some feedback from a fellow Mechanicum player. I found just 1 or 2 Transports go a long way, not just to move your Myrmidons forward, but just as mobile cover and fire magnet to take the heat off my Myrmidons.

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>Mars
>Cyclothrathe
>Xana
>Angelus will have Dark Mechanicum
REEEEEEEEEEEE all these traitor fucking shits! When will loyal servants of the Omnissiah get the spotlight?!

>>53236892
>>53237684
>>53237736

Painting white is really not that big a deal. Duncan's WE tutorial is a good and quick method.

Really though, the price of bikes is just too steep to do a fluffy WS army. I mostly wanted to do them to have some cool CC geared vets.

>>53240624
Yes, especially if you're a filthy traitor because Sacrificial Offering is a damn good RoW.

>>53242297
when you faggots stop hiding on terra all day and come out and play.

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>>53242697
Bueno.
Srsly, more loyalist Magi fucking when?

>>53242396
Loyalist here, so no Cult mobs for me. But I think I have an idea for a fluffy, fairly tough pair of Militia squads to assist my marines.

>>53241777

Yes, that's exactly it.

>>53232595
>5 reductor
>0 cybernetica
Why does nobody like beep boops?

>>53243045
I like Thanatar SIEGE automata, as well as all its variants...but the Cynix Siege-Assault is too expensive and the Calix is too damn bipolar. I mean, a mean punch that also has an artillery-range lascannon?
The other bots are cool but I'm not too interested in those, despite knowing they're actually very good and hard to deal with unless you prepare for them. Maybe it's that last point.

>>53242137
Are you sure that the guns are big enough?

>>53243067
Check the file name.

>>53238318
I'm mostly looking for the Vow of Silence part in audiobook format

>>53243067
The bodies are Genestealer Neophyte Hybrids with Tempestus Scion arms.

>>53239862
MkVII came into service during the Siege of Terra.

>>53241870
>lack of transport options

What, an 8 lascannon super-heavy not good enough for ya?

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>tfw I can't decide if I should build my drop pods as normal pods or get parts of make them into Dreadclaws

>>53243642
You can make Dreadclaw conversions out of the box alone.

>>53243733

Yea, but they look shitty, especially next to a real dreadclaw. I personally love how the DC looks, so I'd want it to be done right. Regardless, the question still stands: to DC or not to DC.

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Dream time
> I'm 12
> Maths teacher says there's something special today
> We all walk into another room, for some reason I'm the only one in the room
> Edgar Skomorowski is there to talk all about Horus Heresy 8th edition
> Average game is 2000 points, Land Raiders are 35 points, but everything is super cheap money wise
> Look at all the point values, plus a new Salamander exclusive
> Basically a Damocles Command Rhino Spartan with like a billion Multi-Meltas
> Quickly escorted from the premises as an army of Pyros from TF2 burn everything to the ground
> Manage to sneak the Command Spartan away in my backpack
> Get home
> Remember that I don't play Salamanders and I now feel annoyed because I don't know what to do with the thing

Am I a closet Salamander now?

>>53243642
>>53243733
>>53243917
What parts would you need and where would you get them, out of curiosity? Asking for a friend.

>>53242137
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJvq7z39YEw

>>53244057

Z has just the Dreadclaw parts for $24, so I can get 2 sets for $48. Considering I got the drop pods I have for 40% off, that's $47 per dread claw, which is perfectly fine.

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>>53243952
>> Quickly escorted from the premises as an army of Pyros from TF2 burn everything to the ground
Yes

>>53243639
Wanting Gorgons is one thing. Being able to afford Gorgons is another matter entirely.

>>53244457
Buy a Baneblade and convert that. Hell, old Epic gorgons used Baneblade (or very similar) hulls. I'm working on making my Militia Gorgon out of a Baneblade hull.

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>>53244587
>Hell, old Epic gorgons used Baneblade (or very similar) hulls.
Not really. They were always sized in between Leman Russes and Baneblades. But I can see how you might turn a 40k Baneblade into one. If it works out, please share! Take in-progress shots.

Do any chinacasters do Ultramarine upgrade bits? Asking for a friend of course

>>53244587
That's....actually not a bad idea. It is the size of a Baneblade hull for certain, the trick'll be modifying it the right way. Maybe leaving the Baneblade armored rear and bringing the Stormlord casemate turret all the way to the front of the hull and rigging some sort of door or assault ramp...

Though, that's another project for another time. First, I'll need the troops going in it, since the transport can't even be used until it has men to go inside it.

>>53244895

Literally all of them

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The fruits of procrastinating, a non-serious Militia allies force:

+ HQ +

Force Commander (50pts)
-Provenances
--Cyber Augmented (35pts)
--Survivors of a Dark Age (75pts)

+ Troops +

2x Militia Grenadier Squad (65pts)
--+6 men (5pts each)
--+2men w/Plasma Guns (15pts each)
--Lasrifles (15pts)
--Advanced Weaponry (20pts)

+ Elites +

Imperialis Auxilia Medicae Detatchment (40pts)
--+1 Medic (10pts)
(2x attatched to each Grenadier Squad)

+ Dedicated Transport +

Auxilia Gorgon Super-heavy Transport (275pts)
--2x Twin-linked Lascannons (20pts)

+ Heavy Support +

Leman Russ (140pts)
--Vanquisher (15pts)
--2x Heavy Bolter Sponsons (20pts)

1,000 pts flat

My whole idea for the force is getting access to some extra bodies for holding objectives (loyalist, so no cult mobs) and some anti-tank options without resorting to FW (poorfag). SoaDA gives the Grenadiers +3 saves, Cyber Augmented gives them a +6 invuln, and the medics give them FnP, which all together should help cut down on casualties a bit. Although 1 Vanquisher won't do much, another 2 Vanquishers bumps the list up to 1350, which still isn't too bad to my understanding. It's not going to win a war on it's own, but they're allies, not the actual Legion force, so they're only meant to help out. Though to be fair, I've also only just returned to the game, so I could be totally wrong.

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>>53244902
All you really need is the track assemblies and the bottom and rear of the hull. Was thinking something along the lines of pic related. Just replace Baneblade sponsons with Russ ones (to get the 4 guns). The TL guns I don't know about yet. One can go on the turret. Also a front ramp. Either make from plasticard or assemble from a valkyrie door or one or two rhino doors.

Why do Justaerin cataphractii have tartaros helmets?

>>53245227
I'm doing a CA + SoaDA militia force as well and for what it's worth, my build is pretty much exactly like yours, except on a larger scale and either supporting some Mechanicum or as an army unto itself. The only difference is I'm running smaller grenadier squads in rhinos and also fielding some artillery as well.
I'm also a traitor.

I've been out of the game myself for a while but I think it's a good sign we were thinking along roughly the same lines.

>>53245322
It was the style at the time.

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>>53245400
I was thinking both of those options too. But I'd have to take half the troops in order to squeeze them into Rhinos (which would, admittedly, cost much less than 40 in a Gorgon). Field-gun Medusas don't seem too bad either, but I'm also not sure how I feel about the gunners running if someone even looks at them funny.

>>53245425
Now I'm imagining Iacton Qruze telling Dorn a long rambling story about onions rather than just explaining that the heresy had started. Thanks, anon.

>>53245400
I was considering doing a force of Squats with the militia army
SotDA with Abhuman Helots. Power Armoured Grenadiers in Rhinos backed up by Heavy Weapon Squads in LR Proteus's, maybe some malcadors as well, but not sure what to add beyond that that keeps with the theme

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>>53245535
Shit the image didn't upload

>>53245535
>>53245541
They actually gave this idea a shout out on one of the twitch streams a while ago

Apparently the guys who designed the Kharadrons were fully aware of the Squat conversion potential

>>53245505
Yeah, my main issue with taking rhinos at the moment is that I can't attach medics. Damn, I wish they'd rediscovered the Chimera STC in the 31st millennium.

>>53245535
I can't think of much either. Unfortunately, the Militia list doesn't have a huge range of options. Enginseer Auxilia make sense given the Squat's mechanical prowess. Sentinels may help give the list some added punch too.

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>>53233913

>>53233913
>Celestine instead of Yvraine
You had one job.

>>53245523
>"We can't rebel like we used to. But we have our ways. One trick is to tell stories that don't go anywhere. Like the time I caught the transport to Macragge. I needed a new hilt for m'sword. So I decided to go to Ultramar, which is what they called Macragge in those days. So I tied a knot to the top of my helmet, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the transport cost a throne, and in those days, thrones had pictures of lions on 'em. "Gimme five lions for a quarter," you'd say. Now where were we... oh yeah. The important thing was that I had a top knot on my helmet, which was the style at the time. I didn't have any tall knots, because of the Crusade. The only thing you could get was those short braided ones..."

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What profile do you guys think custodes weapons will have in 8th?

>>53245705
>Adding a xenos bitch
Fuck off.

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>>53245919
>wanting boring nun which he despises because she worships his father instead of experienced exquisite commorite slut

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>>53245972
She's got that twinkle in her eyes
>Tfw my father wasn't originally divine but people believed in him so hard some of them are going Sanguinius and sprouting wings

>>53246032
Her wings are part of armor actually.

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>>53246108
It's a retcon I'm not fond of. I remember the Living Saint flapping her wings.

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>>53246156
>Covered her feet later
Guilliman confirmed for foot fetishist

>>53246183
>one tit protrudes twice as much as the other
either that, or GW artists cant draw perspectives. who knew?

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>>53246262
Its too tight corset.

>>53246262
Her body's angled at about 45 degrees, anon. Look at her hips. Then, look at her hips for the purposes of seeing what angle they're at.

>>53245760
Probably like now, but AP as modifiers and some weapons get to cause more wounds. D6 for the first, ect. I wonder if Paragon blades and spears get some boost, like Damage D3 or something. Guardian Spears are sure to become better, thanks to AP-1 for the gun and AP-2/-3 for the blade. Wonder if the warblade gets AP-3 like power swords. That'd be quite nice.