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Fantasy Flight Games’ X-Wing and Star Wars: Armada Miniatures Games
>http://pastebin.com/Wca6HvBB

Fantasy Flight Games’ Star Wars RPG System (EotE/AoR/FaD)
>http://pastebin.com/wCRBdus6
>https://mega.nz/#!DkNTDTyZ!PUupCOep4RmRcsgI3rNhU_Pk_xcyFbYWnhrq8gwrVv0

Shipfag's Starship Combat Fixes for EotE/AoR/FaD
>http://www.mediafire.com/file/y9w713etmckbs98/Shipfag.JPG

Other Fantasy Flight Games Star Wars Tabletop (Imperial Assault, Star Wars: Destiny and the Star Wars LCG)
>http://pastebin.com/ZE4gn0yN

Fantasy Flight Games Dice App (Works with X-Wing, Armada, the Star Wars RPG system and Imperial Assault)
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/64xy3uy6vepll8v/com.fantasyflightgames.swdice.ver.1.1.4.build.9.apk

Older Star Wars Tabletop (d6, d20/Saga, etc.)
>http://pastebin.com/wXP0LdyJ

Reference Materials & Misc. Resources
>http://pastebin.com/AGFFkSin

All Canon Novels and Comics (via /co/)
>https://mega.co.nz/#F!2R5kDTqQ!WfrDla-jvDIn05U57T9hhQ

Just What IS Canon Anyways?
>http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Canon#2014_reboot
>http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_of_canon_media

The Clone Wars Viewing Guide
>http://img.4plebs.org/boards/tg/image/1442/36/1442364889994.png

Writefaggotry
>http://pastebin.com/cJY5FK9T

Shipfag's hangar
>https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0ByhAdnTlOKOeQnA4SFByUC1aQWM&usp=sharing

Heroes of the Aturi Cluster, co-op X-Wing campaign
>http://dockingbay416.com/campaign

How has romance entered your games, /swg/?
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>>53170776
does love for adventure/money count?
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>>53170776
Me and my right hand will never be parted
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>>53170776
I had a husband and wife playing a husband and husband couple in one game. never was really a big deal though
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>>53170776
My Trandoshan hooked up with some alien matriarch-to-be while intoxicated.
My GF doesn't like RPGs though
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>>53170776
I once had a female Twi'lek podracer hitting on a female PC through a case of mistaken identity. Long story short she ended up topless, covered in Imperial blood. It was a fun game.
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>>53170776
It usually happens when the party shops for its first starship, steals from an Imperial shipyard, or enters a gun store.
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>>53170776
>How has romance entered your games, /swg/?
My romantically oblivious character is currently being wooed by a Tomboy Corellian Pilot.

Our Tanky character has a Twi'Lek Muscle Girl who has a life debt to pay to him.

Our Kel-Dor Pilot has rekindled their romance with their ex-wife.

Our Charmer Bothan is hitting his Human Psychotic Ex-Wife soon to be Wife Again Black Marketeer who is also the run away daughter of an Imperial Moff.

Our Zabrak tech girl is forever alone because she spills more spaghetti than Tomoko.
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Which is a better use for Jury-Rig, reducing the cost of Autofire or bringing a weapon's Critical down to 1?
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>>53171073
Reducing Autofire cost by far.
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>>53171016
>Zabrak tech girl is forever alone because she spills more spaghetti than Tomoko
I am intrigued...
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>>53171182
Spaghetti spilling characters are only good for romance/smut writing if they're paired with another character who's the same way
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>>53171182
She has the hots for all these cute/hot girls, but ends up unable to get past the crippling social anxiety she faces daily since being orphaned (After Imperials stole her parents) on Coruscant.

She has a group of Droids who she can speak normally too, but goes completely autismal when speaking to others.
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Link to /SWG/ Discord, join if you want or something.
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>>53172016
I forget to put the fucking link. I'm an idiot.
https://discord.gg/xgGUP8y
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>>53170776
>How has romance entered your games, /swg/?

The only romance in my game so far is the Jedi obsessive falling in love with a khyber crystal and lightsaber, and possibly me for giving it to her, and the pilot and his jetpack.
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How tough is Storm/Clone Trooper armor?
My roommate thinks its splinter protection only, I figured it was as good as modern armor, only lighter, then autists claim its completely immune to kinetic attacks, while in the movies its penetrated by stone tipped arrows...
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>>53172162
Technically, the arrows and spears in the movie don't penetrate the armor itself, but rather the material around the armor.

We've never actually seen any non-energy weapons pierce the armor itself, and even blaster bolts don't necessarily always go all the way through the armor.
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I still can't believe that WEG did the Yuuzhan Vong a decade before NJO did. Not to mention that they did it a thousand times better.
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>>53172210
>We've never actually seen any non-energy weapons pierce the armor itself, and even blaster bolts don't necessarily always go all the way through the armor.
Other than a possible animation error in the Talz episode of TCW where a Talz throws a starship-hull-splinter spear through a clone chestplate.
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>>53172016
Needs the ability to change nicknames, imo. Also more text channels.
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>>53172322
Agreed nicknames are essential
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>>53172322
I'm not the admin, just one of the users.
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What would be the space equivalent of the M2 or DhSK? The canon heavy repeater doesn't really have the punch or size
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>>53173000
The E-web, I guess? It's pretty large when we see it on-camera. Or is that the one you're saying lacks punch/size?
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>>53170982
My Zeltron girl ended combat at one point stark naked, drenched in blood, with nothing but a lightsaber (not hers) and a breathing mask.
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>>53173076
>Or is that the one you're saying lacks punch/size?
Yeah. It seems more like a space Vickers or Maxim type gun
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>>53173105
It looks quite a bit bigger than a Vickers or Maxim.
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>>53173000
Well, I rate the autoblaster as about like a space Oerlikon or ZU-23, though I could honestly see stretching it to include the M2 and KPV.
It's tough, because FFG SW doesn't really do crew-served weaponry
Maybe just call it an Autoblaster that breaks down into a couple man-pack chunks of like 7-10 encumbrance, I dunno
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>>53172030

Cool, will check it out
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>>53173105
It's a lot bigger than a .50, maybe you're just confused because the width seems like a water jacket?

Uh Captcha what are you trying to say here?
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Why is my husbando so perfect?
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>>53173935
it does kinda look like a 1.5x scale maxim now that I think about it
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>>53174135
I need a source and context for that pic
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>>53174171
New Comic called the Screaming Citadel, where Aphra and Luke team up to fight what looks like Space Vampires .

It was storytimed on /co/ today, so if you get to the thread you probably could find a link.

The chemistry between the two is beyond Mara and Luke
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>>53174229
>>53174171
I gotchu senpai
>>>/co/92258388
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>>53174276

How goes the squadfic planning friend? I voted
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>>53174276
so what's the squadron composition m8?
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>>53174229
>The chemistry between the two is beyond Mara and Luke

You aren't wrong. This was literally the issue that made me start to like Aphra. Her having a character to play off that doesn't hate or pity her is nice.
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>>53174229
>>53174372
mara suffered heavily from years of writers being told to specifically NOT write chemistry between her and luke, so when it was time to, nobody knew how
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>>53174229

>space vampires
>with my rising star nucanon favourite, and my all-time favourite character
Fuck the hell yes.
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>>53174338
Thanks! I've outlined the first chapter, plus a little, now I'm working on filling it in.
>>53174352
I haven't fully decided on who's in the squadron. Twelve is a lot of characters. I have most of the key ones worked out and put into the outline already, but I'm open to suggestions for the others.
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>>53174626
Nautolan m x Zeltron f
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>>53174626
well based on the last couple of threads, you definitely need the twi'lek reverse trap and her childhood friend combo, you've already got the smug twink, the slutty twins, and what else do you already have planned?
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>>53174626

You can always start with a flight, rather than the full squadron... if they're Recon they might go out on mission in pairs and flights. The rest of the Squadron can be dealt with more vaguely in mentions until you're ready to fill out the roster?

As for ideas, a Zygerrian or Falleen woman? They're more underworld species but a couple support the rebels probably.
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>>53174873
>Zygerrian or Falleen woman
Dommes
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>>53174873
>literally date rapist the species
nah thanks m8
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>>53174903

:D
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>>53174903
I remember reading the Shadows novelization when I was like 12 and thinking the whole Leia thing was kinda hot, but just a bit weird. Looking back, holy shit was Xizor just creepy as hell. Did he actually have a reason he was trying to fuck Leia besides ego? I can't remember.
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>>53172162
>The armor was also resistant to projectile weapons and blast shrapnel. However, the plating made running difficult, and was vulnerable to hits at the non armored parts, even against arrows. The armor dissipated energy from blaster shots, leaving the trooper unconscious, and with burns on large areas of the body. If the trooper was shot on the shoulder, it was possible he still went down. This meant that the trooper could survive direct hits, and after a quick bath in bacta, he was ready for service again. The armor didn't protect against blunt weapons though, some hits to the head with a club, or with stones could lead to falling unconscious, or even death, because of brain trauma and damage.

>Stormtrooper armor was capable of protecting its wearer in extreme environments, including deserts, forest, icy wastelands, and limited exposure to the vacuum of space. The armor's torso plating featured environmental controls on its midsection, its black body glove was vacuum-sealed[1] and made of a smart material that could adjust to the wearers body heat and external temperature.[5] Though a rebreather pack was required for extended use in environments that lacked a breathable atmosphere or to filter potent toxins.[8] Troops in the field were allowed additional ammunition and comprehensive survival equipment, with backpacks that could feature field communicator sets, mortar launchers, and blaster components.[2] It was a punishable offense to utilize the armor's internal cooling options in noncritical situations due to its power drain, however many Imperial cadets still attempted to do so. Stormtroopers were also expected to remain in uniform at all times, with the rule considered essential for maintaining the public trust and representing the Empire in a positive, professional manner. By wearing one's armor, one represented the Empire, not the individual.
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>>53174903
>Falleen

I'd let her date rape me. Though more likely she'd string me along and then fuck me over in a non sexy way
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>>53174945
>>53172162
In short, it's slightly better than modern body armor, but far from impenetrable. Remember that it's lowest bid mass produced armor. It will protect you from glancing blaster fire and a straight shot from basic kinetic weapons. The real strength is that it lets the Stormtroopers operate in any environment
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>>53174626
I'm gonna vote for a very large and strong human guy and his girlfriend from a large, strong alien species.
they regularly destroy furniture when they fuck
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>>53174999
>his girlfriend from a large, strong alien species.
He'd rather fuck a Wookiee?
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>>53175012
what, you wouldn't fuck a chick just because she's a marine?
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>>53174939

Xizor was donut steel when you could still get that shit published. And he was still better than Dash Rendar.
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>>53174999
the girl should be an amazonian near human, not many good other choices
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>>53175165
>>53174999
This has been my fetish since I first saw these two.
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>>53174999
>>53175165
>>53175380
thirding.
amazonian women are great and couples who are equally matched in height/strength are premium best rare fetish
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What are Amazonian alien species? I'm only picturing Klingons and maybe Andorians atm.
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>>53175463
Wookiees
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>>53175512
whats their dick look like though?
Like a reg or like a dog's red rocket?
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>>53175012
>>53175512
I feel like a wookiee would be messy to copulate with, with all the hair and strange noises and occasional berserker rampages.
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>>53175463
aren't Deveronian females like two meters tall?
other than that and those weird femdom otters who are trash, it really is down to OC or near-humans
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>>53170776

So I just realized something.

Rogue One is canon.

The Death Star was indeed an inside job.
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>>53175817
you cheeky motherfucker
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>>53175580
Cragmaloid Women.

Because who doesn't want a cross between an Elephant and a spider?
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Does anyone have a PDF or something of the propaganda book?
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>>53173000
E-Webs are pretty much the standard heavy repeater for a lot of factions, while they don't really chew up vehicles and buildings like they probably should, they do a reasonable job of sending a lot of rounds downrange, for a long way.
Anyone hit with one is looking to soak at least 16pts of damage with Pierce 2, so they're going to be pretty unhappy, if you really wanted maybe a better analogue- replace Pierce 2 with Breach 2 so it can rip up civi vehicles all day and murder people like nobody's business

That said-
Even the M2 and DShK are hard set to bother most modern military light armoured ground vehicles and combat aircraft.
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So quick question for you all. I play these games occasionally and was in my flgs when I saw a module for EotE: Mask of the Pirate Queen. I tried reading through the links at the beginning o the thread but the only thing I could find was the FaD core book. I would like to think about purchasing this book but would like to "try before I buy" as it were. Am I missing something from the links up there? Or is my entire endeavour likely to prove fruitless?
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>>53176401
here's a link to the mega dump
https://mega.nz/#F!blI01Jga!6uL6fLHF2rJFKDN57E14WQ!j5IXyJza
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>>53176504
Thank You Very Much. If I could; I'd buy you a beer.
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I've been working on something in Maya and Photoshop and I'm throwing it around the internet for criticism. Anyone have anything that immediately jumps out for this piece?
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>>53176522
Nah you're right. Books are worth buying anyway as they're really good, fucking heavy though!

>>53176554
Maybe a little more transparency on the blaster bolts just so they don't look like solid objects. Little less white in their centres as well perhaps
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>>53176187

It's in the in the mega on /co/ https://mega.nz/#F!2R5kDTqQ!WfrDla-jvDIn05U57T9hhQ!qRYQWQbQ
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>>53176721
Nice, thanks anon
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>>53176641


This looks a bit better to me. What do you think?
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>>53176892

Literally the moment I posted that I realized the underglow on the destroyer should probably be more subtle.
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>>53176934
Yep, that sort of looks like the ones in the movies.
Though you're going to have to tidy up the edge of the underglow as it looks like its crept up the sides of the destroyer.

Maya's a pretty cool program, been years since I had anything to do with it though
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>>53176976

That's gonna be a bit tough. The smoke is meant to curl over the destroyer and I'm handling it similar to the way they do in rebels: Take a bunch of prerendered ships and throw them over a background. The mist is done in photoshop so I'll be fucking about in photoshop for a bit too.
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>>53176991

Here it is. Photoshop was being weird but I think I got it.
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>>53176991
Yeah, over time you can do stuff like motion-blur the TIE's (maybe have them shooting with that green shit too)
Also SD's are full of heaps of little light sources too.. just to fuck with your life that bit more :p
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is there a dnd game with that is around squadron combat
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>>53177043

This IS them with motion blur. I think this is a version without it.

I decided to just nix the light sources as well. I don't think they'd be adding much to the composition truth be told.
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>>53177081

Fuck, THIS is the old one.
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What Armada ships and expansions should you buy in which quantity?

For example I don't think I'll be buying more than one Home One and one Liberty but maybe two ISDs.

But how many MC 30s, Nebulas or Arquitens are the right amount?
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>>53174276
Ah shit, they're super cute.
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>>53177258
MC30s, two probably. I got away with just one for a while though. Nebs, one plus the one you get in the core. Kittens, harder to call. I have two and that's about right for both ships and the upgrades they come with, but I know people who have three and use them effectively. DTTs are also awesome and you will want several.

I've been fine with just one of the large and medium ships so far. I really don't think double ISD lists are good, even before current meta. Sometimes I wish I had a second AFII, but not to the tune of $40.

Flotillas of course you'll want like 2-3 of both.
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>>53177081
I wouldn't do it either :)

Still, with SW art its ok to go full retard on your backgrounds with upside down cities hanging from trees, 4 suns, huge space benis living in asteroids etc
That's sort of where the 'fantasy' bits of SW come into it
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>>53177449
Thank you!
Shame about the ISDs.
I just like em a lot visually and thematically.
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>>53177461
They're impressive damn ships on the table top. I mostly play Rebels in Armada at this point, but whenever I take Imps I pretty much always have an ISD.

Also you probably only need one Pelta, and that more to complete the collection and get the upgrades.

Most squadron packs you'll want two of. You might be able to squeek by for a while with one of the rogues and villains and one each of the fighter pack IIs, but you will need two of the fighter pack Is plus Corellian Conflict for the new objectives and squadrons.

I'd also recommend going by E-bay and picking up some of the alt arts from previous kits. Leading shots, XI7s, and Turbolaser reroutes in particular.
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>>53177528
The alt arts are so really neat desu.
I might just do that.
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>>53177187
You should keep the blaster bolts the way they are in this one, they are in fact solid objects being magnetically contained plasma bolts and not lasers.
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>>53175380
They're getting a mini series this summer I believe
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>>53177059
From the FFG stuff, Age of Rebellion with some home brewing to make it less deadly
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>>53170776
My roguish Gunslinger Smuggler is sleeping with his Chewbacca, who is a life-debted Twi'lek sexpot, who is also played by my gf.
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>>53176554
The TIEs look giant, rather than closer to the camera. I don't know why.
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>>53176554
For the amount of clouds in your background, the ships themselves should be more occluded: flying through clouds, creating trails, clouds in the foreground, etc.
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>>53177258
The only duplicates I grabbed for rebels was an additional CR90 and Neb (in addition to the core set), a second MC30, and three flotillas. I kinda want a third CR90, though.

Anything else, like a second Pelta or more copies of some upgrade, I just borrow.
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>Assault Pelta w/ ETs and ELs
>77 points
>Double arc = 2R2B in front, 1R1B in side
>Average damage = 7.25
>5HP, 8 Shields
>Evade, Brace, Redirect

>MC30 Scout, w/ OEs and APTs
>78 points
>Double arc = 1R2B in front, 2R3B in side, chance for APTs on each
>Average damage = 13.35 (assuming not rerolling hits to fish for hit/crits)
>4HP, 11 shields
>2x Evade, 2x Redirect

I'm willing to consider the titles a wash, because having two officers can be useful in harder to directly measure ways. I'm even willing to give the Pelta a slight edge on defense, because of the extra HP, and more importantly, brace. And the Pelta has slightly more maneuverability if it's spamming navigates.

But the MC30 does nearly twice it's damage, while throwing on a crit effect. For what purpose even introduce this variant of the Pelta, FFG?
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>>53180132

The Assault Pelta does get BL/B flak letting you use the flechette torpedoes Imps so crave, and that extra hull can be a godsend - some guy at worlds lost 2 MC30s in one game solely to Yavaris'd Luke doubletaps.

That said I agree with you. The Assault Pelta feels like some rebel engineer decided to try and build his own Gladiator SD without understanding that a Glad is more than missiles and light turbos.
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>>53180282
It's /almost/a good ship.

Slower, but with engine techs and a corresponding better speed 1. More HP, and a brace. Guns in the front. Better flack. Weird officer shenanigans potential.

But it doesn't have enough dice for APTs, nor access to OEs, nor enough Blue/Red dice to compensate, and it costs too much for what it does get. It could've been a quirky and specialized black dice ship, like the Raider is, especially with a second title tailored for the task. It'll get a small boost from External Racks, granted.
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>>53177059
You could take a look at Warbirds. The default setting is dieselpunk and never really caught my interest, but there's a "space age" sourcebook that is pretty much made for adapting the game to Star Wars.
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Have you ever designed an OC Star Wars ship, /swg/? Badly photoshopped Bizarre-TIEs count.

If so, post it.
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>>53180831

I would but it has no exterior shots, just interior and outline.
One day I'll get around to designing the outside.
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>>53180831
I've designed several in my brain but I can't into art, which I'm slowly working on changing.
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>>53180831
I've designed quiet a few, but no art, just stats
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>>53170776
How would a Zeltron deal with a person with Clinical Depression? The kind of person for whom their anhedonia and avolition prevent them from really enjoying life. Would they be dumbfounded, and not know how to make the person happier? Would they wear themselves out trying to make the person happy temporarily without trying to fix the underlying problem? Is Star Wars medicine advanced enough that mental disease is nonexistent, making the idea moot?
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>>53181448
>Vader has massive PTSD and is as a result dissociative, possibly borderline
>Yoda is possibly dyslexic
>Old Obi-Wan may be senile, having forgotten about R2-D2, and suicidal sacrifice suggests possible depression resulting from old age or social isolation
>Jar Jar has ADHD
>Han Solo is likely a high functioning sociopath
>Leia is histrionic
>Luke is depressed at the beginning of ANH
>Lando has a gambling addiction
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>>53180831
Did up the mega-turtle as a ghetto escort carrier so time ago. I really like the Cargo Empress anyway as a format for a bulk cargo carrier anyway, having it poop out X-wings is just for fun

Also have a really high-end cruiser which was a re-purposed from a decommissioned Arkanian-Arakyd super heavy strategic bomber
Don't know where I put the stats for that one, but still have the deck plans... its a bit too sexy for you guys though and this is a PG kind of board.
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>>53180831
I got a bunch of lineart stuf i hacked together a month or so back
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>>53182280
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>>53182290
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>>53182300
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>>53182323
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>>53181448
They'd probably either avoid the person outright or try to help them by fucking or fighting the pain away.
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>>53182342
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>>53182393
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Personally, I'm glad they got rid of Zeltron from the canon. Objectifying women by turning them into sex-crazed fucktoys was deeply problematic, and an exclamation point on a story written by and for white men.
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>>53175580
>weird femdom otters who are trash

You dont like space otters?
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>>53181827
I like this a lot.
Ugly and practical.
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>>53182415
They've been back in NuCanon since New Dawn.
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>>53182415
Lazy bait, your lack of quality in your shitpost disturbs me.
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Has anyone ever played the 3-4 player Armada mission? I'm curious about possible builds, it seems like MSU is the way to go.

Summary:
>150 points
>No commanders
>Deploy within range 5 of a table corner
>each ship gets an objective token, which adds 1 red die to its attack pool for every attack against ships
>ship can move its objective token to the central station, earning 50/40/30 points for being the first/second/third+ token placed
>initiative order changes clockwise every round
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>>53182280
>>53182290
>>53182300
>>53182323
>>53182342
>>53182393
>>53182412
What software did you use to design these?
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>>53182707
Just MSPaint. All of those are Cut n' Paste jobs from IRL fighters and bomber schematics
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>>53182415
Nice Bait. But did you forget the males were jsut as slutty?
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I mean zeltron ARE trash, just not for the reason this b8poster is saying
Straight up they're incredibly cheap magical realm wish fulfillment: the species and frankly pretty fucking uninteresting besides.
They were fine as a cheap gag in the marvel comics but beyond that they're just retarded
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>>53182754
Men who can get easy sex is a power fantasy, women who have easy sex are objectified as s-lts
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>>53182912
Well of course, but then again that's like 1/3 of all star wars species.
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Were the Vong actually interesting? Or just generic space monsters
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>>53175096
DELETE THIS
>>53183092
Not to me. I thought Nom Anor's appearance in Crimson Empire had potential, as a weird, shadowy conspiracy creature, but when they actually showed up they seemed a better fit for something like Star Trek or 40k.
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>>53182939
Salts?

>>53183092
I find the "everything is the same as technology but organic" aliens to be one of the worse kind of sci-fi tropes, and their whole badguy designed to be a threat to the heroes thing (Force immune, Lightsaber resistant, spaceships immune to blaster fire etc.) was overplayed.
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>>53176554
The destroyer looks too shadowed to me. They're normally light gray, maybe even a tick lighter than the sky here. And yet it's darker, but not in shadow.

The explosions need a little tweaking, too. In real life, the darkest parts of the fireballs are the parts that are the most see-through. So go through and try to reduce opacity on those, you'll like it better.
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>>53183092
They're terribad.
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>>53183196
>I find the "everything is the same as technology but organic" aliens to be one of the worse kind of sci-fi tropes

I think it *could* be interesting (although maybe not fitting for Star Wars). The problem is, as you said, the "everything the same" part.

Imagine a race that fought with biological weapons and toxins, riding giant space krakens that ripped ships apart with their tentacles and smashed through command decks with their beaks, bypassing shields designed to combat plasma and not squids. Land-battle tactics built around vicious attack space-dogs and hit-and-run strategies.

Almost like the Na'Vi, but more evil and manipulate rather than hippies.
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New video just went live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40C-zCS6IMk
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>>53182524
To be fair, I didn't design it. Just filled in the deck plans as sort of a fun 'engineering challenge' type of thing, then figured there was room for a couple of starfighters as a Q-ship kind of affair.

>>53182280
These turned out really good

>>53183092
There was early potential, but ultimately they just sort of ended up like a crossbreed between 'nids and chaos. So they didn't really ever fit in, where severely clichéd as rampaging, nigh invulnerable space monsters and that doesn't sort of really work. Not that 40K is at all 'bad' (some of it is though!) but when you're sort of nicking ideas off 40K, which in turn has basically spent most of its existence nicking ideas off everyone else's fiction, there's nothing there which actually made them very well defined, likeable or just very interesting.
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>>53170776
>how has romance entered your games?

I once played a Hnemthe pilot in a short campaign we did. He was raised in more of a melting pot and away from his own kind, so when he learned that his species instinctively disembowels the male after copulation he developed a debilitating fear of intimacy. Ragardless of the race. He would literally quake with fear whenever his femme fatale captain would get flirty.
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What does /swg/ think about clones? Do they prefer pre- or post- 3D series Clone Wars era?

Also post your best clones
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>>53183931
I prefer the characterization of the TCW clones, but the Genndy clones take the cake for sheer awesome.
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>>53183931
>Also post your best clones
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>>53183931
>BRRRRRROTHER
>LIQUIIIIIID
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>>53183092
>>53183721
They felt more like a cross between Nids, DEldar, and durkhas to me. I liked Allston's depiction of them though. The crazy backbiting politics of the faith's different branches, the human traitor coming to deeply regret how much she fucked up siding with them and all that.
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>>53183664
The first part had me laughing. I don't joke if it was intentionally funny, but the dead pan explanation of maneuvers was funny.
The formation flying was handy as fuck. I didn't know flying a range ruler apart was the correct distance, I just guessed distance until I got it right lol
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>>53185742
I learned pretty early in life that I don't have a ton of charisma or comedic timing, so playing things straight or over explaining the obvious is sort of my style in terms of joking.
Thanks for checking my stuff out, it always means a lot.
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Thread's quiet, so here's a preview of the video I'm working on now. It'll be out tomorrow or Saturday, 2pm est.
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>>53170776
PINK TITS
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>>53187028
You can also get blue, green, peach, or snow white if that's more your speed mate.
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>>53181448
wouldn't a depressed person begin to stalk Zeltrons just to feel artificial happiness, like a junkie?

>>53183931
I have a slight preference for the early deshumanized clones, but both versions are good.
Republic COmmando 2 never ;_;
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X-wing question
Tomax Bren says after you discard a etc flip that card face up.
So "discard"ing a card is just flipping it face down?
This would allow me to use crackshot every round?
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>>53187915
yes
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>>53187915
That is the entire reason to use him as a pilot
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>>53187686
>begin to stalk Zeltrons
Hello Plot Hook.
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>>53181814

Whoa
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>>53187950
>>53188032
Cool thanks
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Rate list

Tomax Bren - Tieshuttle/crackshot/hull upgrade/Systems Officer/Intellegence Agent
Mauler Mithel - Crackshot
HowlRunner - Crackshot
Black Squad - crackshot
Sienar Test Pilot - Tie/v1

Plan to run it like a pretty standard swarm tactics
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>>53188086
>depressive serial killer
>sniffs powdered Zeltrons

That would be a first, I think. Not a lot of sordid crimes in Star Wars, to my knowledge.
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>>53188833
What is this?
Tie girl top tier
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>>53188854
I think it's Toshi Station. Ben and Luke are here to pick up some "power converters"
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fuck /swg/ I want to show you an amazing video I found but it's on tumblr and I can't distill it into a simple video. I'm scared you'll be mean if I post a tumblr link.
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>>53188934
Only /pol/tards give a fuck where good content comes from. Post it.
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>>53188934
it's 4chan, we'll make fun of you for posting or for being too afraid to post. Pick your poison.
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>>53188934
Do, or do not. There is no bargaining.
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>>53188954
https://www.tumblr.com/video/lesbianrey/160394234246/500/
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Can I get some noseart to paint on my XWM minis?
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>>53188924
w..what? Is this a game or something?
All the image search is saying cancelled mobile title
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>>53188996
Yeah that thing is about a minute too long.
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>>53188833
Blonde's tattoo says "Alderan"
Does it not have the double a in aurebesh?
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>>53187201
Zeltrons are shades of red, though.
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>>53174487
>when it was time to, nobody knew how
It was literally two comic companies in a waifu war
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>>53189096
Yeah sure, but there's Twi'llek, Mirilian, Human, and Echani.
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>>53189154
>human
You could have at least said Hapan.
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>>53189055
Got something better to do?
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>>53189172
The joke got old is what. Was funny for a minute.
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I've been thinking about spicing my next AoR campaign with some Metabarons. Good idea or assured trainwreck?

>>53189062
doubled characters in aurebesh aren't aesthetic.
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>>53188996
I adore this. I wonder if Griffin and Justin have seen this yet.
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>>53188934
I'll make fun of you either way.

LOOK AT HIM AND LAUGH
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>>53184069
Arc Troopers are the shit, and ARC-170s get my dick hard
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>>53189114
I'm new here and haven't heard that story before, could you explain?
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>>53189399

How do you plan to post your fic? Pastebin, fanfiction.net? Some other way?
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>>53170776
So i've flown this list 3 times. I've gotten pretty decent at it, I don't hit rocks multiple times per game now.


Have any of you flown strikers/have any useful advice for flying them? Any changes for the list? Strikers are pretty fun, but if they don't have the PS advantage, they suffer quickly.

Should I drop the Intel Agent and replace one striker with Adaptability Duchess?
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>>53188827
Hull Upgrade on Tomax is dumb- Lightweight Frame. Then, I'm not sure Intel agent is a good option there, or is systems officer (You have Howlrunner, and you can only hand if off to 2 attack ships....)

The rest of the list is just Imperial Saladm, so I can't really give comments on that.
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>>53190646
Haven't decided that yet. Wondering myself. I registered on fanfiction.net, but I'll have to wait 24 hours to post there.
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>>53180831
I drew a thing when that make-your-own-ship-out-of-appliances pdf was going around, it was like a corvette thing where the whole length is a laser.
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>>53190733
AO3 or pastebin would be better if it's going to be straight out lewd, FF.net doesn't like that sort of thing
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>>53189531
Ahh. I'm not that guy, but I know what he's talking about.

You want to look into both Mara Jade and Callista Ming.

Both were characters meant to be Luke's waifu - which would be a huge coup for anyone writing the character, as that makes them automatically the second most important woman in the franchise at the time (after Leia, of course). The authors of these characters both portrayed their characters as Mary Sues, perfect matches for Luke.

You know Mara Jade's story - she was a secret apprentice of the Emperor, went on to be the perfect little smuggler girl and officer in Talon Karrde's operation. Had a love/hate relationship with Luke, who was her old assassination target. Blah blah.

What you probably don't know is about Callista Ming. Callista was an Old Republic Jedi Knight - but not any kind of Jedi Knight, specifically a rogue sect of knights that allow for feelings and families and marriage and multiple padawans per master. So some bullshit.

Now, you're wondering how she's still alive, yeah? I mean, Order 66 went down. Well, she kinda ain't. The Eye of Palpatine, an Imperial asteroid/ship bristling with enough firepower to raze a planet, finds where she and her Jedi lover are hiding, back during the purge. The two of them go on a suicide mission to sabotage the Eye, and she makes a huge, tragic sacrifice to do so - she sheds her body and "dies," but through the Force embodies the ship's electronics.

Yeah, fuckin' weird. She becomes the Eye of Palpatine.

So later on, Luke is INSIDE her and discovers her presence. One of his hot, sexy, young padawan chicks dies... and through the Force, Luke and Callista are able to get her consciousness into the padawan's body. But in the process, Callista loses her connection to the Force.

So she and Luke have to work together, in intimate settings, to get her to touch the Force again. And maybe his dick.

In the end, Mara Jade ended up the winner, and Callista Ming was promptly forgotten by most fans.
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>>53190733
>>53190863
AFF as well.
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>>53190896
fuck this shit star wars is over
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>>53190956
I don't really know what you're trying to say, but I respect your opinion and value our conversation, newfriend.
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>>53190896
>winner
Well, technically, she tied. She shares the Skywaifu title with the true best girl of the franchise.
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How fantasy do you make your star wars?

Have you made you players fight vampires? Have they ever rescued a princess from a space dragon, or turned out to be long lost royalty? Any old wizards shown up to take them on adventures?
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>>53190863
Hmmmm.... Is there a faster way to get invited to AO3?
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>>53190956
Old canon had its ups and downs. The Mouse and Jar Jar Abrams are mostly downs, though.
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>>53190896
Mara Jade was definitely the best of the prospective lukefus offered up in the bantam EU, though
We could have saved a lot of wasted subplots and pages if they'd just let zahn write them together at the end of the thrawn trilogy
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>>53191074
depends on the mood and the players, really.

Most of the time things are pretty low key, but for example during halloween my players fought a sith ghost and other silliness in a lost temple that totally was in no way shape or form a haunted house.
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SOUND THE ALARM
I'm fairly certain I've stumbled across the worst star wars fanfic
It features ken (yes, that ken) and kyp durron, apparently slash
https://m.fanfiction.net/s/12436641/1/Star-Wars-Dynasty-of-Evil-or-Luke-Skywalker-s-Jedi
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>>53191962
Oh fuck I think Quest paintrained this one once
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>>53191962
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>>53192017
Can't have, this only came out a month ago. But it says it's a sequel to something. I bet that's what he read
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>>53191962
>he wrote a sequel
[Physical Fear]
>>53192017
No, I had him do the fic this is a sequel to, a long time ago
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>>53191962
THE JEDI PRINCE IS NOT FOR SEXUAL
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>>53191962
Wew lad, is the pain train revving up once more?
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>>53192279
I might ride that train tomorrow, depending on if I'm drinking or not
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>>53191962
I ain't clickin' that shit
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>>53191962
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>>53191962
I am baffled and horrified
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Is like... a large wider lightsaber possible?

Like a great lightsaber? HUGE cloud buster sword style lightsaber?

or like PSO sword style lightsaber?
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>>53192601
nigga, light whips and other crazy ass shit like that exist in Legends. Anything is possible, no matter how stupid.
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>>53191962
>"And remember to smile." Luke patted him on the shoulder. "You're just fifteen. You still have a whole life in front of you, one ready to throw even worse shit at you."
>"You know Dad, I think you'd have made a ton of money as a HoloNet feelgood shrinker."

I honestly laughed
Mostly because its so awkwardly terrible, but also a bit of sleep deprivation too.
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>>53192601
Just tape 7 lightsabers together in a row and make it so the middle one has a longer hilt.
There you go.
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Is there a special force power to make people into force weilders?

I was thinking of running a game where this NPC special messiah could make people have force powers and she was basically making everyone she met who she thought was a good person into force wielders. The pcs have to protect her.
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>>53192830
How interesting that you should ask, let me tell you of our lord and savior Waru.
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>>53192830
No, either you are born Force Sensitive, or you are not. There are, however, varying degrees of sensitivity, so, perhaps you could have the character amplify someones force powers but it would be neither permanent nor really useful if the people enhanced got too far away from your messiah lady. So, either make up new force powers or, go with what I gave you.
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>>53191792
Mara Sue is easily the worst character Zahn's ever written though.

>look at this cool badass edgy stronk independent woman who is great at everything and everyone loves her even though she's a bitch it's so tough being mara because she's so perfect and just wishes she was normal and she smells like mint and cinnamon and wears short black pants and an MCR t-shirt and goffik vampire fangs
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>>53192601
if i recall great sabers were in one of the saga books for larger races.
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>>53192830
Does glitterstim-induced telepathy count?
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>>53192830
aren't there drugs in one of the saga books that grant certain force powers for limited times
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>>53192993
Glitterstim?
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>>53189114
But...weren't both Mara and Callista from Bantam Spectra?
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>>53189114
>>53190896
>What you probably don't know is about Callista Ming. Callista was an Old Republic Jedi Knight - but not any kind of Jedi Knight, specifically a rogue sect of knights that allow for feelings and families and marriage and multiple padawans per master. So some bullshit.
That's not exactly accurate.

At the time Children of the Jedi was written George had not laid out the "No Families" rule, the other stuff was really Special Snowflake including the fucked idea that trading bodies was a JEDI trick that Palpatine stole, but the Families part was implied to be pretty much normal, it wasn't till after the prequels that of all people Karen Traviss either got assigned to patch them into the prequel era as a rogue sect, or decided to do so herself because she's all about dat family shit.
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>>53190896
>So later on, Luke is INSIDE her and discovers her presence. One of his hot, sexy, young padawan chicks dies... and through the Force, Luke and Callista are able to get her consciousness into the padawan's body. But in the process, Callista loses her connection to the Force.
Her surviving was the worst part of that book, and went on to be one of the two bad parts of Darksaber.
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>>53192830
>>53192888
WARU!
WARU!
WARUUUU!
Also if you're evil the Valley of the Jedi can be exploited to make borderline people full force sensitives.
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>>53193817
>>53192830
>>53192888
Because who DOESN'T want an extradimensional Gelatinous cube covered in dragon scales to sit around alternatively healing and killing beggars for their life force while also cutting deals with an underground imperial remnant to bootstrap their neophyte force users in exchange for alien force neophytes to feed on, oh and it blocks Luke from the force successfully enough that he's suffering incredible self doubt and willing to go to it for healing because it wants to eat him and use that power to go back to its own dimension.
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>>53193841
Waru truly was too good for us.
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So my character has adrenaline junkie as an obligation.

It seems to trigger somewhat regularly but in situations where it's awkward to want to do something dangerous for no real reason and my DM doesn't want me to take the failure option where the character is irritable and unhelpful.

Any ideas on adrenaline junkie stuff a character can do when nothing exciting is going on but without annoying other players? Wandering off the plot and trying to start a fight with strangers isn't so fun.
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>>53181448

Zeltrons secrete mind effecting drugs as a background thing. If any species has both the understanding of human physiology and the chemical components on hand to make a pill to fix the problem, it's the zeltrons.
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>>53183931
>Our only hope was Aayla Secura, our Jedi commander. Without her iron will, none of us would have come out of that mess with our sanity, or our lives. When her death came, I hope it was quick. She earned that much.
>When the 501st was finally rotated out of Felucia, Aayla Secura made a point of seeing us off personally, calling us the bravest soldiers she had ever seen. It's a good thing we were wearing helmets, because none of us could bear to look her in the eye.

>tfw


I always prefered this vision of the clones, being cold and obediant killing machines, than the bioship explanation in TCW.
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>>53195230
But good soldiers follow orders
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>>53195290
Of course they do, that's my point.

Order 66 just being an order for the clones to follow without asking questions is a way better idea than the sort of biological mind control TCW made up.
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>>53195230
>it's a Felucia episode
>it ain't me starts playing
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>>53195319
Good characterizations and story should come first though, and I don't think TCW could have worked without it. The chips made it a lot more of a tragic event in the end. It's why the TCW clones are remembered the most fondly outside of Cody and Fordo.
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>>53195384
Having a soldier go "wait, this is wrong" and desert is much more powerful than "oh dear, my obedience ship malfunctionned, I'm out out of here" IMO. The latter feels like a cop-out to me
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>>53196263
>Having a soldier go "wait, this is wrong" and desert is much more powerful than "oh dear, my obedience ship malfunctionned, I'm out out of here" IMO.
But the only ones who removed their chips and deserted were the ones who released it was wrong (also so they could have a few familiar faces for Rebels). The only ones who the chip malfunctioned was Fives and Tup and they were hunted down by their kin. The reason the chip works is because they spent the entire series fighting to be recognized as people, but they have no agency in the end. Palpatine literally gloated about killing the ones who knew they had a choice.
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>>53191962
I appreciate what you're doing Anon, but I honestly don't have it in me to go there.
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What's the best thing from the EU, that you'd most like to see returned to canon?

What's the worst thing, thay you most pray never is?
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>>53191962
Motti, prepare single reactor shot
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>>53198487
Best: The Imperial Civil War and warlordism
Worst: Vong, and everything after them
Honorable mention goes to Luke's Waifu Of The Month club, that was terrible
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>>53195379
Nah, suicide is painless plays
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>>53197316
Nobody likes being mindcontrolled, especially by a malfunctionning system that activates randomly.
Anakin betrayal wouldn't have been more tragic if Sheev had implanted him with a mind-control chip to make him switch sides.
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>>53198487
>Best: based Pelleaon and a non-meme Imperial Remnant
>Worst: the retarded superweapon power creep.

I would love to see Pelleaon and Mara Jade in Rebels
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>>53198736
>Anakin betrayal wouldn't have been more tragic if Sheev had implanted him with a mind-control chip to make him switch sides.

You mean that isn't what happened? That's basically what it felt like.
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>>53198821
I mean, maybe if Mace Windu had said a single solitary good thing about Anakin in 16+ years, Anakin would've hesitated to let his black ass get thrown out a window. But no, niggas be hatin'.
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>>53198817
Well, Pelleaon did show up in Rebels, serving as mini-Thrawn and helping to out Kallus.
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>>53198868
Uh what? That wasn't Pellaeon, that was the admiral-turned-ISB guy.
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>>53198887
Yularen.
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Why did Episode 1 exist?

Jar Jar is some alien thing, Obi-Wan is a young Jedi training some younger Jedi who's nursing a romance, Galaxy is on verge of a civil war.

None of it needed Episode 1 as context.
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>>53198855
Don't forget about Anakin suggesting to put Palps on trial, and Mace going all murderous.
Fuck Mace Windu. He should have stayed on the frontlines.

>>53198817
>retarded superweapon power creep.
As TFA has shown, this is not a EU only issue.
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>>53198938
>Don't forget about Anakin suggesting to put Palps on trial, and Mace going all murderous.
I mean, his position was that Palps would corrupt the trial process and wiggle off the hook like it was made of rubber, then kill the Jedi to protect his secret. Which is absolutely what would have happened. In hindsight, Mace really did make all the right calls, he just made them for the most dickish reasons and couldn't defend his positions without coming off as a sanctimonious bellend.
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>>53198891
The republic being ineffective, the jedi order being sclerosed, the megacorps revolting, Palpatine as a scheming bastard, the Sith being revealed (Dooku being just a rogue jedi master), Anakin having a family on Tatooine (and soon to be murdered by Tuskens).
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>>53198891
Introduces the idea that Anakin has relationship issues because he got separated from his mother and had a difficult past. Also introduces the political background that leads into the war. I'll grant you that it's not the best of executions, though.
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>>53199012
>>53199011
>Introduces the idea that Anakin has relationship issues because he got separated from his mother and had a difficult past.
10 minutes of exposition between Obi-Wan and Anakin would have solved it. Obi-Wan scolds Anakin for getting all emotional and goes "I know you haven't had the best past, but you need to move on, Anakin". Boom, done, character trait established using more or less natural dialogue.
>Also introduces the political background that leads into the war.
>The republic being ineffective, the jedi order being sclerosed, the megacorps revolting, Palpatine as a scheming bastard
Five sentences of opening crawl. Boom, done, established.
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>>53199009
>head I win, tails you lose.
Now that I think about it, it shows that Sheev is a man cunning enough to seize control of the entire galaxy without much risk of failure melted face aside, in an action scene. Not bad, Lucas.
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>>53199061
>10 minutes of exposition
>opening crawl
It's called cinematography, a.k.a "writing with motions" in greek, because you're supposed to SHOW DON'T TELL.
ARE YOU SERIOUSLY COMPLAINING ABOUT TOO MANY EXOTIC SETTINGS AND SCENES OF LIFE INSTEAD OF ONE TO ONE STATIC DIALOGUES AND LITERAL WALLS OF TEXT IN A FUCKING SPACE OPERA!?

Maybe you should read books instead, anon.
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>>53199061
That's somewhat fallacious thinking because any work of fiction can be summed up in 10 minutes, which would make cinema a useless art form if that was the only criteria.
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>>53199012
>>53199061
>>53199526

Did Anakin even need to be some punk-ass teenager? Couldn't he have been, like, a trusted friend and confidant of Obi-Wan that bonded with him over the course of the Clone Wars, only to reveal he had a secret family or something?
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>>53199157
You could carry that line of thinking out until you go back to the beginning of time. You just have to say, this is where the story starts. George picked the wrong spot.
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>>53199157
>It's called cinematography, a.k.a "writing with motions" in greek, because you're supposed to SHOW DON'T TELL.

Okay, so instead of showing an entire movie of Nothing they could've given us shots where Anakin looks at a picture of his mother with a mixture of longing and anger, or we see Trade Federation CEOs arguing with Republic bureaucrats about their unfair treatment in the Senate, or a dozen other things.

Men in Black did this better, dude. Hey, let's establish Agent K as wanting "out" and he's still longing for the cute girl he gave up to become an MIB. How do we do this? You show him watching her through MIB satellite feed! Bam, done, instant characterization.
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What's the point of the swg Discord? Serious question.
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>>53173094
>My Zeltron girl ended combat at one point stark naked
Not sure that's notable. Knowing Zeltrons, there's a good chance she *started* combat naked.
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>>53198589
This, 100%.

Honorable mention goes to KotOR as well.
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>>53182348
I doubt they'd avoid them, both because it's a cruel thing to do and because they'd feel the rejection themselves. They'd be far more likely to try the "fuck the pain away" approach, even if it means they have to slip high-powered aphrodisiacs into the depressed person's food because the they can't get aroused for one reason or another (which is possibly the reason they're depressed in the first place). Come to think of it, they probably completely cured all forms of sexual dysfunction eons ago. Being unable to fuck would be a fate worse than death for them.
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>>53200573
Really what's amazing is that they weren't completely wiped out by space AIDS at some point or another
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>>53187686
>wouldn't a depressed person begin to stalk Zeltrons just to feel artificial happiness, like a junkie?
Not if their depression is so severe that they're literally unable to believe they deserve any kind of happiness. That's when you call in the Zeltron Gentle Rape Force, to make passionate and caring love to them until they can finally give themselves permission to enjoy it.

>>53188833
I'm not the only one seeing a lot of Aeryn Sun in that TIE pilot, am I?
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>>53198938
>Starkiller Base and its introductory scene are things that exists in canon
Every time I think about it I die a little inside.
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>>53198487
The imperial civil war, remnant and associated warlord stuff was pretty tops, and the legends NR was actually interesting without being retarded
Vong were definitely the worst, though all the later bugfucker crisis and legacy stuff is very close
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>>53200747
Stupid great metabolism IS a characteristic of Zeltrons. Maybe they have space Zeltron AIDS, it's just that their body is just too good at keeping the disease away.
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>>53200772
It's okay, J.J.'s been locked in the producer box he can't hurt us any more.
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>>53200807
Wouldn't do much for whatever poor bastards of other species they dope and molest, though
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>>53200878
Rub some bacta on it
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>>53200759
>I'm not the only one seeing a lot of Aeryn Sun in that TIE pilot, am I?
>Aeryn Sun as TIE pilot rival to your X-Wing
I never know I wanted this until now
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>>53198487
best: WEG filling the setting with working organizations.
worst: Suncrusher
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>>53200807
I thought the metabolism was so that they could constantly eat delicious food and still be fuckable.

Now that I think of it, what protections DO Zeltrons have against STD's? Is every Zeltron riddled with the clap?
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>>53201312
>Is every Zeltron riddled with the clap?
Most probably. Zeltros is literally THE perfect breeding ground for the most terrifyingly virulent and treatment-resistant VD in the whole galaxy
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>>53201618
>the most terrifyingly virulent and treatment-resistant VD in the whole galaxy
At some point in history, a sith master that couldn't get laid probably produced some alchemical sexually-transmitted horrible plague out of pure spite.
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>>53201823
But if he couldn't get laid how would he spread it? :^)
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Guys, I just realized something.
It makes no sense for the X-wing to be called a X-wing since Star Wars uses the Aurebesh instead of latin alphabet, and their x is a delta.
My view of 90% of the rebel ships just crumbled.

>>53202112
That would explain why there's still a galaxy.
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Why are the weirder races never force sensitive? It's always off-humans.

You never see Sith Wookies or Jedi Jawas or whatever Watto's species was called I forget.
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>>53202130
You've gone way too deep man. Turn off your computer, go take a walk, come back to Star Wars after some space
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>>53202130
It also makes no sense that their language is just English with the same alphabet written with different characters.

I can accept speaking English for practical reasons. But the alphabet? Disgraceful.

Why not something interesting? A syllabary or heiroglyphic writing system. Draw inspiration from Chinese or Arabic.

Disney can afford to hire people for this, damnit. Hell, there's hobby conlangers who'd happily do it for free.
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>>53202153
>Wookiees
Lowbacca is a Jedi. He's Chewie's nephew(?)

As for most other races it would either look too silly (like the examples you gave) or they are just so small a population compared to the galaxy your chance of seeing one in general is really small and force sensitive on top of that would be minuscule. There's only like a couple hundred thousand Jedi Knights right? In a galaxy of billions or trillions. Sensitives are super rare, and ones who get formal training are rarer still
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>>53202130
The Latin and Greek alphabets exist in the Star Wars galaxy as High Galactic and Tionnese respectively
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>>53202195
It serves double purpose, for normies it looks alien and that's as far as they are gonna go. For ultra nerds it provides opportunities for Easter eggs by allowing for relatively easily translatable fun or clever messages.also if I had to choose between their made up language to be more made up or have a new ship or species or cool design I'd always pick the latter
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>>53202264
>also if I had to choose between their made up language to be more made up or have a new ship or species or cool design I'd always pick the latter

TFA made like a billion dollars before even considering merchandise.

They can do both.
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>>53202284
Maybe not percentage wise but linguists are expensive. For a spoken language sure but for a language that isn't even for any purpose than vague background messages the return is pretty weak.
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>>53198487
Best thing? Probably the concept of an Imperial Civil War and the galaxy remaining in turmoil. I also didn't outright hate the Vong. I enjoyed a lot of the deeper exploration of themes in Star Wars and the sides of conflict, and if you say that's a bad thing because "space opera", then you don't know what a space opera is and keep using that term.

What I disliked most? The usual stuff: the fanwankery, and the Mary Sueism. A lot of EU publications reek of greasy, grubby fanwanking, in particular books like Rogue Squadron, but others suffer from it too where any real meaning or substance is thrown out the window so the author can hotglue their favorite fictional faction or group of characters. I also hated how some of the Imperial warlords were portayed as sub-mentally retarded, especially a certain Director.

The Mary Sueism is self-explanatory and usually falls into fanwankery, but sometimes it's from author-inserted OCs like Mara Jade. Luke, Leia, Han, and Wedge also got heavy Mary Sue treatments depending on who was writing them. Some others as well, though those particularly were the most grievous examples.
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>>53202331
>Retarded, especially a certain Director

DELETE THIS!!!
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>>53202323
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>>53202323
Not if you're a cunning linguist. Look to the Zeltrons for that.
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>>53202393
We need a real linguistic genius!
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>>53202422
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>>53202224
>There's only like a couple hundred thousand Jedi Knights right?
10,000 at the height of the Order.
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>>53202354
>>53202331

Catalyst, the pre-Rogue One novel, shows a much better Krennic IMO. He's much more competent, genuinely manipulative, and you actually see the effort he puts into getting the Death Star built, as well as the frustration with the various failures along the way. Krennic's behavior in Rogue One is basically his slow-motion nervous breakdown after the thing he's been busting his ass for twenty goddamn years to build gets snatched away on a whim by Tarkin.

honestly i really liked Catalyst, the audiobook guy does a very good Mads impression and Galen was always more interesting than Jyn
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What would be a good place/time to set a SW nation-building/warlord kinda game? I don't know the setting too well beyond the movies, but I'm open to expanded universe stuff
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>>53198589
>Best: The Imperial Civil War and warlordism

Space Feudalism or Space China is always the best kind of space opera.
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>>53203548
Immediately after episode 6. The Emperor is dead, the Empire is collapsing, the New Republic is trying to claim legitimacy that most don't believe it has, and warlord kingdoms are popping up everywhere, be they Imperial Remnant, bandit kings, or independent systems.

This setting is also immediately familiar to people who've only seen the movies, and allows probably the most freedom for independent powers to arise. Plus it allows you to send one more middle finger to Wendig for completely wasting that entire era.
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>>53203548
Right after the establishment of the New Republic.
You got a young regime that has to deal with the aftermath of the war, the imperial remnants, all the moffs trying to carve out kingdoms, various systems using the event to grab their independance, the underworld bosses trying to stay in place while their lieutenants jump at the opportunity...
Someone claiming to be a the leader of some rebel cell could probably use the turmoil to attain a position of power or eliminate his opponents; it's basically what happened in post-ww2 France.
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>>53198487
BestThe Shadows of the Empire/Rogue Squadron as told by the Video games
Worst: Ewoks season two and how it made the characters into cunts and retards.
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So my girlfriend bought me the X-Wing beginner set, and now I ahve an overwhelming urge to buy millions of little plastic spaceships.

Fucking help me.

Is there a good way to get a bunch of X-Wings and Y-Wings easily/cheaply? Like some kinda 'Rebel Fuck Force Five' boxset or something?
I can see one for an a- and b-wing but cant see one for my waifu and her slightly uglier friend.
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>>53205243
Sadly no, if you want X-wings you're getting them one at a time through the core, x-wing single pack, or rebel transport and if you want Y-wings its just the Y-wing single and the scum Most Wanted box that's one Y and two Z95s minus any of the cards or bases to field them as rebel ships. They're also not particularly amazing ships thanks to the magic of power creep, with each having one good pilot/build and the rest ranging from acceptable to dumpster trash.

There's hopes for a Rogue One themed Heroes of Scariff box that would be an X and a Y but considering by the time it would be coming out they'd need to be releasing tie in ships for Last Jedi I think the hope is dead.
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>>53180831
/swg/ designed a bunch of theoretical ships based on the description of the new Republic Battleships we have get to see. They're described as being hatchet shaped, and there were some pretty good ones that I wish I had saved.

Someone pls post them
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>>53170776

Which of the pre-published adventures translate well to starfighter-based parties? Any system (FFG, WEG, etc.) works.
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>>53203138
That's kind of bullshit when the galaxy has quadrilluons of sapient species
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>>53206724
Reminder that Karen Traviss insisted that there were only ever 1 million clones and that this was more than enough to wage war on a galactic scale.
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>>53206850
3 Million, used as a a spearhead for pressganged PDF forces. Still retarded.
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So I just finished reading Guardians of the Whills. Instead of finding out who the fuck the Whills are, or indeed learning anything about the various non-Jedi sects, I got two hundred pages of Baze and Chirrut fucking around.

Fucking young-adult novels. Were there ANY Star Wars YA books that were decent?
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>>53207162
>Were there ANY Star Wars YA books that were decent?
Lost Stars and Rebel Rising come to mind.
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>>53207162
Wait, seriously? There's nothing on the Whills there? The whole reason I wanted the book was for the extra lore, that's a dissapointment
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>>53205470
>They're also not particularly amazing ships

I know, I've played a couple of times on tabletop sim.
But i mean, they could be literal dumpstertrash and I'd still just want to field them.
I've wanted to be an x-jockey since i was like 4.
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>>53207370
If you are just looking for x-wings
Look on ebay and craigslist for lots
You might be able to get some cheap

Other wise, you aren't really going to be fielding more then 4 at a time, so just buy heroes of the resistance to get the black one
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>>53178775
So you're playing Balthier and Fran.
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>>53202354
I think the reference is about Ysanne Isard. She's the legends director of Imperial Intelligence that caused the Empire to balkanize further thanks to her purges
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>>53207162
>young adult novels
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>>53207862

I'll check out ebay and see if I can get a few x- and y- for decent prices
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>>53207162
>I got two hundred pages of Baze and Chirrut fucking around
>didn't like this

I can already tell you're a boring person.
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>>53206724
You have to also remember, that the Jedi were extremely rigorous in their requirements. Only a select few could ever hope to have the capabilities to become a Jedi, and an even smaller number of those actually would have the willpower and the temperament to suit.

So there being a tiny fraction of a percent of people being Jedi makes sense.

Also, canon kinda fudges the numbers a bit - in Legends, it wasn't just "ten thousand Jedi" prior to the Clone Wars, it was "ten thousand Jedi Knights were headquartered at the Jedi Temple on Coruscant" - and Coruscant was just one of many of the temples, even if it was the biggest and the "main" Temple, there very well could have been a hundred thousand or more Jedi by how open they left that to interpretation.

But canon seems to indicate a lower population galaxy than Legends postulated, so a lower number of Jedi kind of makes sense in that case.

Still an incredibly tiny fraction, but that's the breaks.
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>>53208375
There were other canon temples, however, so it is possible there were more jedi besides the ones within the main temple.
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>>53208409
True. But we also had Kanan directly state that in his time (ie just before the Clone Wars, while he was still a padawan), there were ten thousand Jedi.
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>>53208457
>>53208375

The prequels kept the jedi population low as a plot point. The jedi can't fight the separatists alone because not only are they not soldiers, there aren't actually that many of them around to begin with.

And those extra temples were mostly abandoned or gone by the time order 66 came down. They existed nominally, but the praxaeum ships and secondary temples had largely stopped operating, outside of maybe having a handful of jedi at a handful of temples.
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>>53208505
>>53208457
I always figured it was like space marines in 40k, a tiny fraction but enough that they'll show up when a story demands.
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>>53208225
To be fair, I didn't see the young adult novel part when I went in. Probably would have adjusted my expectations more.


>>53208353
Forgive me for expecting a book entitled "Guardians of the Whills" would contain anything about the Whills and/or the guardianship thereof.

It's literally two hundred pages of "oh no how will they help the starving orphans" with cameos by Saw Gerrera and a really bad 'hey kids radicalism is a major bummer' moral shoehorned in.

It's Chirrut being all "oh, i'm blind but I see so much more than everyone else" and Baze being all "i'm grumpy but i sarcastically take care of my friend". Rinse and repeat. Rinse and repeat again. Then Saw Gerrera is all "hey everybody let's fight the empire and coincidentally fuck over all of these orphans" and then it's back to Baze and Chirrut doing the same goddamn schtick for the rest of the book.

It's shit, is what I'm saying. It could have been great, we could have seen the two of them in the glory days, exploring the mysteries of the Force. Instead we got the same fifteen minutes of screen time from Rogue One, repeated ad nauseam.

At least it made the Sith Code canon again. Even if it was just in some smarmy chapter-opening quotation.
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>>53208589
>It's shit
I thought it was a pretty good sidestory that offered some good characterization.
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>>53208589
Seems like you're looking to fill out a wiki, than read a book for the characters. I don't think you'd even like what your describing since it seems you don't like the characters anyway. They'll never go into detail on the Whills for another few years at best as well.
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>>53208375
10000 is still way to low and another example of Sci-fi writers having no sense of scale. An average Jedi isn't even all that special. We are so used to seeing Anakin/Obi-Wan and Yoda that we think that they are what all Jedi should be measured too. You are not going to convince me that force sensitivity is so rare that there is only 10000 Jedi in a fuck huge galaxy
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>>53209012
Thats 10000 Jedi Knights.
I mean its still low, but consider every other force sensitive. There are tons of others in the Jedi organization. Tons more that get sent home.
Despite seeing lots of Jedi, force sensitives are rare as fuck.
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>>5318927
>I've been thinking about spicing my next AoR campaign with some Metabarons. Good idea or assured trainwreck?

Question. Are any of your players French, philosophy students, or (god forbid) French philosophy students?

Pic related
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>>53189275
>>53210188

>Metabarons

Also: https://rphv.net/books/Jodorowsky-graphic-novels/Metabarons/other%20comics/Metabarons_Univers_Guide.pdf
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