Warhammer 40k General

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>>53148091
First for Ladyboys

first for underdog guard

> Ladyboys only subedition
Why would you do this?
I dont get all the love for traps the ll look like guys to me

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We need more qt models in 40k

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>>53148121

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(not) sisters of battle when?

Remember everyone:

It's not gay if you do it in his wife's bed.

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>>53148091

Nth for Cadian plastic Guard are here to stay

>>53148147
Kek nice, this is going on my ever-expanding list of "it's not gay"

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>age of IG

Not on our watch

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>>53148129
It is mostly a meme.
But the taste for them is that they end being more girly than girls.
So if you want a reason that could be it

>>53148155
id at least like updated kits so i don't have to constantly kit bash melta guns and plasma guns

>>53148173

Why are they so swole

I'M GONNA BUY TYRANIDS ON 8E RELEASE DAY AND ARM EVERYTHING WITH SPINEFISTS AND NO ONE CAN STOP ME!

>>53148196
eating chaotic grains

>>53148175
>its mostly a meme
Tell that to the discord i am in where the second most active channel is just pictures of traps. i think it may be because society is becoming more open which means people are becoming more sexually open. but thats just one autistic nerds opinion.

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>>53148179
Are you crazy ? It was a riot !

>>53148155
How is this a positive?

Plastic Cadians look like arse

I was mildly hyped for something NEW and good looking. instead: same shit cadians, same mongoloid catachans forever

>>53148155
I wanna die.

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>>53148196
>>53148209

>>53148215
>trap oriented discord
link for science reasons?

>>53148155
Maybe new box for veterans?

>>53148230
Sorry cant do that anon

>>53148220
You need to be a buff gorilla man to survive on Catachan.

>>53148155
i wish we would go back to finecast it was so much better.

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>>53148196

>>53148215
I can understand the appeal, but just like "horrible world news" it is not that the world is getting worst but we are getting to know more often how bad the world is.

Same with sexual deviancy. There is not really an increase in that, but we know about it more.

Now back to 40k

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>>53148196
maybe the heaviest things we lift are not our weights but our GIFTS OF THE DARK GODS

>>53148155
DRIFTING MY RUSS ACROSS THE TUNDRA 'COS I DON'T GIVE A FUCK.

ASS-FIRST IS HOW THE ASTRA PLAY NOW.

>T8 W12

>>53148220

Its not a perfect kit but it is wonderfully kit bashable atleast. I'm not sure there's a more versatile torso out there.

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>>53148270
Sure, sweetheart

Do you think in 8th, Slaanesh will get new toys... I mean, new units to play with ?

>>53148196
They were all probably miners,industrial workers, or had some other labor-intensive job before defecting to chaos.

So if I hide my squishy HQ in a blob of infantry that it buffs, my enemy can't hurt it with weapons that were previously large blasts because templates are gone and it can't target the HQ?

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>>53148220
Just cave in and buy Krieg, the quality is worth the price in the end.

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>>53148240
I'll do it, I'll really do it

>shoot leman with 2 lascannons
>2d6
>-12W
So this is the power of notoneshots

>>53148215
In essence. People have more freedom to experiment. Don't see anything inherently good with it, and it pleases Slaneesh.

>>53148284
It takes about 500 bolters being rapid fired to kill a squad of 3 russes
> is it possible for guardsmen to get this erect?

>>53148173
>implying renegades won't get similar rules

>>53148310
We'll have to see how "indirect fire" weapons work before anwsering that question.
So far, we know that you can take shots at them with Snipers.

>>53148300
Im hoping, at the very least that there will be a couple new toys and a sc! box

>>53148323
Do we want to see the probability of that happening compared to now?

>>53148300
Did alfabusa die? Last time I remember seeing something from him people were still bitching about >aeldari

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>>53148155
I just want plastic Valhallans. I just want to run the 597th. For the love of god why won't you make a new Cain model geedubs please it would sell so fucking well.

>>53148313

43 bongdollars for 10 infantry

GET A GRIP

on an email address for a based chinaman.

>>53148270
Hmm you maybe right but i guess its just that i have seen an increase in trap stuff around the web and its diluted my perspective. Anyways on 40k I wont if Sanguinary Guard will be worth it now that i cant run a Dantestar

>>53148348
My guess would be artillery gets a -1 to hit if they don't have LoS

>>53148337
I mean i dont mind experimentation i just hate this whole new thing of everythng has to be a femboy. I just want to look at some nudes from actual girls.It may also be that i have been told to become a trap multiple times.

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>>53148373
Give in friend. Embrace the stupid faces.

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>>53148155
Believe it or not but steel legion will happen

I'm not sure if the cadians will be gone, probably not in the near future anyway

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>>53148373

>>53148365
I hope lascannon will cost around 30 points. If all 4 lascannons hit leman without cover save, they will kill him for sure.

Who would win? 100 primarch sized Guard or 1 Guard sized primarch

>>53148320
It's because guys are better than girls at everything, even being girls
Just put your bias aside and fuck a qt trap in the boipucci and you'll understand

>>53148437
The Primarch.

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PLASTIC SISTERS CONFIRMED. BUCKLE UP LADS.

>>53148437
>ogryns are already almost primarch sized

>>53148323
>shoot leman with 1 lascannon
>lol explosion

Dying in 2 shots > Dying in 1 shot

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>>53148405
>It may also be that i have been told to become a trap multiple times.
You should tell Slaanesh worshippers to calm down if you are a straight, maybe.

>>53148459
Are they actually cute boys though?

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>>53148459
NO FUCKING WAY

>>53148459
Source?

>>53148441
This. Give that boiclit a good hard dicking.

>>53148487
Plenty of girls like traps, since both genders think girls are pretty, so you don't have to be gay to be a trap

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>>53148459
LINK

>>53148405
Yes, can relate. Have fairly feminine features (pretty guy) and got the same crap for it. No, i have no interest in men, or you, just stop.

>>53148494
3rd party

>>53148459
>Slotta base
>2017

Not buying it.

>>53148494
>>53148499
>>53148523
Gullible.

>>53148459
>>53148494
>>53148499
>>53148490
Calm, it's fake.
More precisely, it's a russian guy doing his own sister stuff, and selling them like crack in a dirty alley.

>>53148490
Only if we get new guard models that turn out to be a female regiment or a bunch of Sweet Polly Olivers if you want some reverse traps to compensate.

>>53148522
Well i dont buy that whole shit tho. Also i like actually looking like a man.
>>53148526
It's not that i look feminine its just that i am fairly submissive in my daily life so i get some shit for it.

>>53148545
I'll buy your crack in a dirty alley.

As long as your crack isn't itself a dirty alley.

>>53148236
>porn-induced desensitization

Found the /pol/lack.

>>53148320

STD's have to do with 2 major thing, the first being that most of those couples one cannot get children, so little usage of condoms.

Second, its actually far harder to get STD's than people think, especially in oral and vaginal sex.

Anal sex however, the risk shoots up a couple 100 times.

Take this, refers to HIV but illustrates the point.
https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/estimates/riskbehaviors.html

Oh, another part is that this people have been shunned most of their lives, anyone who gives them validation they jump their bones, just like girls with daddy issues. More sexual partners = more stds.

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>>53148412
plz be true

>>53148537
How do I order this shit? Do fucking want.

>>53148569
Search for "grishnakmodels" on the interwebs, then. Good luck.

>>53148313
The moment FW swaps out Krieg for the Praetorian Guard is the moment I'll crack. I have heard rumours the Elysians are going away, and I'll admit i could be tempted if they brought out some Harakoni Warhawks or Phantine Skybourne as replacements.

>>53148365
Assuming a marine is shooting, the old odds were 1/54 and the new odds are about 140/6561 I think.
Or in other words, in the past it was a 1.8% chance for 1 lascannon to instagib a Leman Russ and now it's a 2.1% chance for 2 lascannons to instagib a Leman Russ.

>>53148459
Third party Russian guy that takes ages to respond.
Look for Grishnak

Also it is clear that it ain't FW or GW, because the resin does not suck ass

>>53148236
>Autogynephiles
>porn induced desensitization
>durr I'm gonna use big words that have as much weight in the scientific community as SJW buzzwords to sound smart because someone linked me to a Christian blog that confirmed all my biases

>>53148571
>>53148606
Let's not do this again.

>>53148618
>I have heard rumours the Elysians are going away

they aren't

>>53148591
I'm sure part of it is that men are sluts. The chief restriction on how often they have sex for heterosexual males is women saying no.

>>53148522
This, a lot of girls i've got was purely from looking feminine feature wise, despite being fit, im not buffed and have little body hair, doesn't help used to be a metalhead so had long blond hair.

>>53148562
Yeah, makes sense. I'm the opposite, not submissive at all, but get that shit due to looks.

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>>53148606
>>53148571
Will they ever learn ?

>>53148643
Why the fuck not? They look like the mooks from the Incredibles. There's so many more interesting airborne regiments.

>>53148591
Literally no one on this board cares, go back to talking about plastic models or shut up, just because no one irl wants to hear the drivel about your personal crusade against gays to save the fabric of society doesn't mean you have to post it here

>>53148606
>Realising he has been detected, the triggered /pol/lack immediately responds with his reddit meme

Are you guys ever concerned you're becoming stale and predictable?

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>>53148618
You can make effective all-GW Praetorians just using Cadians with headswaps from the Freeguild Outrider kit. Trim the feathers off and you're good to go.

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>>53148207
>AND NO ONE CAN STOP ME!
except the realisation that raveners don't actually wield their spinefists on their fists and will completely ruin your army's theme

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>>53148618
You can already get good looking rein Praetorian Guard from Victoria Miniatures.
Pic related is 50 dollarydoos so it's still pretty expensive.
They also make a female version if that's your thing.

>>53148672

Like who? Harakoni are a meme regiment with almost no info or presence in the fluff.

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I play EC slaanesh marines how can I make them look like the newer chaos models with more corruption like this khorne fag

>>53148475
>Can be rendered inoperable with a single lucky projectile

>JUST
>LIKE
>A REAL
>TANK

>>53148673
>>53148591
Was meant for the guy you're responding to but still, talking about that kinda stuff here is just a good way to make people start going autistic

So what is likely going to happen to rules like Sunder and Armorbane?

>>53148700
Not that anon, but why are they a meme regiment, exactly? They got namedropped in Warzone Fenris and The Gathering Storm, so GW hasn't forgotten about them.

>>53148646

Honest question, not meant to demean or try to sound smartass, how many female partners have you had?

Women are anything but coy, make them feel comfortable and not judged for sex, keep turning them on by understanding what she likes, and she will be jumping your cock every single day.

A woman saying no is more often than not the guy being a bit too thick and not turning her on/knowing how to/understanding her signals, or her being with him for reasons other than sexual attraction.

Women love sex, crave it, gives them validation and intimacy. But tons of societal bullshit on top of it, they need intimacy and support. Or anonymity (this way they cant be judged, this is why women jump on foreigners/tourists)

>>53148709
Trust me you don't want overrealism in your 40k, it wouldn't be fun

>>53148712

true enough, still hilarious conversation. But will restrain

>>53148743
>MGTOW spotted
Just because Nancy in highschool wouldn't suck your dick because of her daddy issues doesn't mean all women are emotionally unstable sluts
>t. A non-trap girl

>>53148743
Thats hyperbolic. You just need to make her understand that you won't judge if she wants you to fuck her ass while reciting verses from the bible (true story).

Make sure she knows you are fine with her kinks (but have limits on what makes you comfortable, but dont make judgey), and you know... be there for the relationship instead of expecting shit to happen by magic, and its fine.

>>53148704
Dunno. Maybe a mix of new chaos models, some slaaneshi old ones, and some bits from Dark Eldar ?

With blasts going away the taurox battle cannon is just going to be a randomized autocannon

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>>53148714

Yeah, they got name dropped but like I said we know next to nothing about them. People say they are awesome, they are better than Elysians or what have you but pretty much all we know about them is that they are heavy drop troopers who use carbine lasguns...

Actually we know that they use the bog standard cadian uniform which is gross.

So the faction focus for AM was less helpful than the last one.

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>>53148700
True, but they still look sick as hell (pic related). The Phantine are apparently pretty much the SAS, but have even less actual lore. I just don't like the Elysian models really, but I'd like to play an airborne regiment hence my annoyance. It's those stupid helmets.

>>53148808
It actually gave some info, so it was better.

>>53148808

That isn't even remotely true.

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>post dubs that results in someone mentioning traps
>derails general for multiple threads
>everything is going as planned

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>>53148799
At least they use cadian-style carapace armour like kasrkin, which looks a hell of a lot better than the alternatives imo.

>>53148815
>not being into swinging
Dude it's 2017 get some perspective

dumb question time!

so living saints are basically daemon princes of the emperor right?

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>>53148772
>>53148718
>going to a 40k thread
>sympathetic anon counceling a /pol/tard over sexual and relationship matters
>suddenly feels like I'm in highschool again

Never change, /tg/.

>>53148772
We call those girls "dove", because they shit white.

Religious girls are the best source of shameful anal. Also had the most questionable morals.
The amount of mini skirts, wide cleavage and crosses that where basically titfucking during exams was shameful. But it was a nice view.

Professor at university by the way

>>53148845
>Of Tzeentch

>>53148845
Yes. Now burn for that comparison, heretic.

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>>53148815
My aunt was named Nancy actually, hope that's not some weird projection
I was just memeing how people talk to MGTOWs, guess I should have put an /s plebbit style
No hard feeling lad, no need to get triggered

Is it still possible to get Elysians in more classic upright poses? Want to start a Guard army and like the Carapace aesthetic but Cadians are too buff for my taste, would like more slimmer models. Sadly all the Elysians FW has are in action poses which I hate.

>>53148814

Yah that's a cool look but I think that might be fanart.

>>53148845
No.
Living Saints are mortal.
A closer comparission would be to a champion or chosen.

>>53148700
The Elysians aren't exactly swimming in fluff either. Harakoni is generally described as being the stormtrooper equivalent to the Elysian's guardsman equivalent, so I'd be interested in seeing them as a sideline product like the Militarum Tempestus.

>>53148815

>I'm shaming her to hell for it.

And thus never have sex, again. Women talk and someone who shames for sex goes quickly into the local black book.

You do not have to accommodate those fetishes, if they make you uncomfortable thus communication is key, there is little need to shame her for it. You probably have very weird fetishes that a lot of people would laugh at you for.

>>53148894

No, 2 out of 5 torsos are hunched over and the elysian kits tend to come with only 1 or 2 standing straight legs pose.

>>53148897
They canonically wear Kasrkin-style carapace armor so it's probably not too far off the mark

>>53148917
Question to try and get back on topic
What would be each of the primarchs weird kinks?

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>>53148129
Personally speaking I can tell you that I like 2d traps for the same reasons I like lolis (chest to hip ratio and size difference)
the dick is either minimal enough to not be a dealbreaker for the rest (the fabled feminine dick) or something that help underlining even further how often traps are more cockhungry than actual girls and the overarching subjugation theme that fuels the power fantasy

generally it's also because good artists take more money from doing niche stuff so the quality of vanilla ends up lacking in comparison of what people consider compromises

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If they do make plastic sisters I hope they give them some new units. Some seraphim with huge spears and feathered wings would be really badass.

>>53148875
Hilarious story and very true.

Repression tends to result in higher kinkyness, reason why Saudi Arabia has insanely high level of sexual child abuse (boys).

are any of the horus heresy books about the traitor legions particularly good? I read the first heretic/betrayer and had a lot of fun with them, and I'd like to read some more if you guys wouldn't mind making any recommendations

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>>53148934
>when you fap to a picture of a trap and just try and ignore the dick because the rest is so sexy and well drawn
The ultimate shame

We are hitting /r9k/ levels of sad here.

Cheetahfag shitpost into safety!

>>53148950
No because that would be a good idea. You're getting more Ultramarines instead and you're going to like it.

>>53148875
its creepy to think that even professors are staring at students

>>53148932

Think sanguinius is quite obvious, dat sweet blood play.
Anyway, won't be replying sexuality related things anymore, it is derailing. Apologies for that.

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>>53148915

no, elysians don't have presence in the fluff like Cadians or Catachans but compare the elysian lexicanum page to the harakoni.

and i wouldn't mind seeing more harakoni but their role kinda filled by the militarum tempestus anyway

>>53148961
>gujira.jpg

>>53148931
>Le gas chamber
How's middle school?
I know I sound like a looser right now but when you get a little older you'll realize how cringy you are kid, maybe you should lay off 4chan till then, might I suggest 9gag?

So is this what happens when school is out and the kids flock to the board? Degeneracy everywhere?

Doesn't anyone just like having vanilla sex with vanilla girls anymore?
Why has everything got to be shaming or traps or cucks or innumerate other weird fucking meta fetishes?
Is there no place for regular sex with regular women in today's society?? GOD HELP US

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are we just talking about political shit ?

>>53148979
Hard not to. When you are sitting in front of them. Want to me too look at a window while teaching or taking an exam?

Then outfits I've seen for an exam or the obvious tit presenting try to squeeze some information for they lack of proper studying. Put our local whores into shame.

>>53149014
I sometimes hold hands with my GF, but only after I call her parents and ask if it's okay

>>53148934
I guess that might be my problem is that i dont really have a power fantasy,

>>53149014
Nah, it's boring. I can't even finish without at least a popsicle stick and two tablespoons of peach yogurt in my ass anymore

>>53149014
vanilla is boring as shit its never turned me on in my life

>>53149001

>So is this what happens when school is out and the kids flock to the board? Degeneracy everywhere?

Not specifically kids doing this, just the ever increasing vitriol and general disinterest in reconciliation between progressives and traditionalists in our society.

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>>53148958

>read betrayer
>Kharn was actually a really fucking decent person before Khorne skullfucked him
>even Angron was pretty fucking cool to people he decided to care about

I actually found myself getting bummed out considering what was gonna happen to them

>>53148997
Gas Chamber makes you cringe?
Back to redddit.

>>53149001
Can't tell, I'm 29, and my dad works for Games Workshop. He says that lady ultramarines will be a thing, and that Slaanesh is getting dunked for degeneracy.

>>53149021
Because all he non-trap males got thrown out of helicopters

>>53149044
>just the ever increasing vitriol and general disinterest in reconciliation between progressives and traditionalists in our society.
smart anon is smart

>>53149014
it's difficult to find good vanilla on the Internet, m8

I'm not joking

>>53149058
My dad works for Nintendo.

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can we just talk about 40k not this nonsense

>>53148718
>I don't mean to sound condescending but...
>Make the irrelevent point that women love sex just as much as men.
>Proceeds to list the various criteria that need to be met for women and the hangups they have to overcome to agree to ACTUALLY HAVE sex

Were you trying to support my point, or did you just not read your post back to yourself before hitting [Post]?

>>53149001
Don't acknowledge it. Report, hide, and move on.

I'm just itching to know what my Great Unclean One's stats are going to look like.

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>>53149001
>you will never browse a /tg/ free of tumblr entryism and /pol/ shitposting ever again in a post-2010 USA world

meanwhile I have been banned several times for stupid reasons like "off topic" for posting 40k-related shit (I don't know, ask the damn mods) and these idiots stay here and don't have their posts deleted

whatever, to keep this on-topic though, is MSU still going to win the day in 8th? I haven't really read the updates regularly but I hope 8th edition means I can run 10 man CSM squads with heavy bolters as my heavy and splitfire those at infantry while my plasma dudes pop rhinos, and it won't be the worst thing in the world

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>>53149033
>holding hands

>>53149044
This in essence.

Society is becoming more and more polarized. We are approaching the Fall, sadly I doubt we will spawn a god/ess of lust in the process.

>>53149077
My dad is Mr. microsoft

>>53149085
What do you want to talk about? we have already chewed through all the new hype information. So we are left with this

>>53149085
Probably not. It's most likely a better idea to shitpost this thread into oblivion and start fresh in a new thread. Unless the jannies step in and BTFO the loons.

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Do we know anything about army structure in 8th?

Will you still be able to do things like picture related?

>>53149085
Where do you think you are?

>>53149021
At this point it seems so.
This thread is just a lost cause at this point, either report everything and hope the mods decide to actually do something, hope the shitposters run out of steam at some point and stop or just abandon hope all ye who enter here.

>>53149085
I'd rather talk about this than acknowledge the new bullshit character rules.

At least the faggot GW dick suckers who claimed 8th edition "wasn't a copied and pasted AoS" can now hang themselves.

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>>53149014
>liking vanilla
God you haven't lived life until you've done something so degenerate you lay in bed wide awake thinking about what you've done

>>53149105
I must know my Wrath of Khorne Bloodthisrters wound count.

>>53149134
But character rules are different in AoS.

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>>53149114
>>>/d/

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>>53149139
>scat

>>53149115
because vanilla doesn't interest some people so they don't like it. like oh boy penis in vagina wew

>>53149134


That bad? Way to kill your games GW.

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What about reverse traps (pic related)?

>>53149085

Recommend me a horus heresy book about one of the traitor legions anon

>>53149134
>I'd rather talk about this than acknowledge the new bullshit character rules.
The new rules are functionally no different from the old ones except for the fact that you can't create OP deathstars (at least theoretically). That, plus the added benefit that characters can now affect more than one unit only makes these rules better than the old ones.

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>>53149119
um Is slaanesh dieing please say no

>>53149123
I guess I just hate these conversations

>>53149131
We know that there are 14 FOCs now. Beyond that, we don't really know enough yet.

Is this a good footslogging squad load out for black templars?

>9 initiates, 5 with bolters 4 with chainsword (wysiwyg)
>sword brother with grav pistol, power fist, melta bombs
>5 neophytes with chainsword
Might have the emporers champion join in with them. Is this good or should I ditch the neophytes and take a rhino?

>>53149131
there are supposed to be three styles of play, basically normal 40k, "narrative 40k" whatever that means, and unbound (which isn't called unbound anymore)

I really doubt they're going to go back to pre-6th with strictly CAD armies, the multiple faction list cat has long been out of the bag. and look how siggymar works. there are supposed to be formations that you pay points for instead of formations that give you free shit.

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>>53149150
You can't show that on a christian wood-chopping imageboard, you fool !

>>53149178
Considering the eldar just got a new god who's entire purpose is to eradicate slaanesh, probably

>>53149168
See the AoS people are like Crows and enjoy AoS for the big fancy models, they don't care about the rules.

The crows will keep the money flowing.

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>>53149044
>just the ever increasing vitriol and general disinterest in reconciliation between progressives and traditionalists in our society.

The cycle continues....

>>53149177
>except for the fact that you can't create OP deathstars

Maybe that is the exact issue all the crying WAACfags have with it ?

>>53148684
Seems like a good idea but 29 bucks for 5-10 heads seems like a stretch if that's the only part I'd use.

>>53149193
B..bu..but I spoilered! plz dont ban

>>53149223
Bits sellers are your friends, anon.

Alternatively it'd help if you were actually putting together an empire/freeguild army because the kit comes with alternate heads and you could still build them as pistoliers.

>>53149177
YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO CREATE OP DEATH STARS US THE RETARDED PRE SCHOOL RULES WRITERS WOULD BALANCE THE DAMN GAME.

Don't fucking act like them not being able to balance for shit, so they created a dumb ass bullshit mechanic that shouldn't exist is a good thing.

Just. Balance. The. Game.

Can we just go back to talking about guardsmen (girl) hype? All the guard anons must have left to paint their ratlings

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>>53149173
fulgrim based on my fav legion the EC watching them go from perfectionists to unhinged psychopaths is drama in its most beautiful form its sooo good EC best legion.


>>53149132
I know im on 4chan but we could at least keep bs in its respective board

>>53149217
I could make OP Death Stars with T3 armies of the Inquisition and SoB?

Why nobody told me?!

>>53149240
>Just. Balance. The. Game.
That's what they're doing.

You not liking it is something else entirely.

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>>53149217

>>53149240
That's exactly what they're doing you mongoloid

>>53149240
They are balancing the game anon
>with 8th

>>53148895
>proving him right this hard
kek

>>53149240

This is true, but I would be worried after seeing how many games end up "balancing" things, basically homogenizing the shit out of them.

>>53149217
There wouldn't be a WAACfag problem is the fucking idiots writing 8th edition balanced their damn codexes.

They've admitted their so fucking incompetent at Codex balancing that they've created a core rule mechanic to stop them.

It's like an 800lbs man duck taping his fridge shut instead of simply not eating.

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>>53149196
b-but I like the eldar aswell why can't I have my eldar dark eldar and slaanesh without GW pging my dark eldar and Emperor's children

>>53149173
A Thousand Sons is pretty good.

>>53149240
>Just. Balance. The. Game.
That's what they're doing.
You haven't actually explained what's wrong with the new system, you've just called it "bullshit"
So what exactly about it is bullshit?

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>>53148300
definitely, going by even just fluff, if Guilliman is walking there's no way Fulgrim will be able to keep his ego from jumping off that pleasure planet to finish him off, so we may see some new cultists or maybe some newly made corrupted Pheonix Guard

>>53149240
You seem perturbed.

Would anyone complain if I ran standard Guardsmen with snipers as ratings? The models just look fucking stupid and with 8e snipers are looking viable now.

>>53149251

This would be great, guardswoman are common in the lore, and wouldnt make sense that "in constant war" the empire would give three fucks about "not having women as soldiers". its idiotic.

Now, to make an all-girl IG army painted in black and pink.

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>>53149251
I should buy some snipers.
Oh... wait. I forgot that I'm playing nids.

>>53149035
the very act of desiring to be in a qualitatively different situation is a power fantasy
and desiring to be more desired is one that would abnormal for someone not to have

but I guess people who don't have (or have less) insecurities will feel less the need of a relatively more powerful power fantasy

good for you on being a better adjusted being, I guess

>>53149262
Well there was this thing with crusaders (for storm shields) death cult assassins (for 2 power weapons for the price of less than 2 with a person attached) and a bunch of characters hidden in there for buffs and force weapons. Riding an allied in GK land raider as transport. It was quite effective and stupid resilient for a unit with majority T3

>>53149264
>>53149267
It's a dumbass way of balancing when you could simply write balanced codexes you fucking idiots.

Like I said it's like an 800lbs man duck taping his fridge shut instead of simply not eating.

>>53149287
Stop posting Horatio in 40k threads.

I know he is the most beautiful thing in the universe, but restrain yourself

>>53149251
Wait, are we getting female guard?

>>53149205

History may not repeat itself but it does rhyme

>>53149325
Says you. I think the new rules are great.

>>53149318
Who needs snipers when your bugs just eat everything ?

>>53149292

>>53149284
>>53149325

>>53149318
Sucks to suck... Wait i play Khorne Daemonkin, fuck.

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>>53149327
im sorry anon ill stop

>>53149328
the more female warriors the better

>>53149315
>wouldnt make sense that "in constant war" the empire would give three fucks about "not having women as soldiers". its idiotic.

You're the only idiot.
An Empire constantly at war would need women to constantly be having babies.
Sending women to die would be cutting their own legs off.

>>53149318
Hive guard
>>53149344
Skull cannons will be the snipers of 8th

>>53149324
Hardly a Death Star. Since that thing ate so much point out of your T3 for what they could do assuming the LRC didn't explode on turn1-2 before dropping its cargo.

It was usually better to just spam 6 Exorcist than try to make that thing work consistently. And fucking Exorcist fire 1d6

>Just watched the trailer
>Nu-marines are all but confirmed

I don't want my marines to look shit, friends. What is Rowboat brewing up? Sigmarines?

>all these fags butthurt that their bullshit deathstar is no longer legal

Top fucking kek. Hopefully actual bodyguard units like Celestine and her grills and Inquisitors and their henchmen can still attach in some way though.

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>>53149369
god who knows they will probably some how be faster then my eldar. because when you charge me I lose my inhuman speed

>>53149360

And women spontaneously generate fetuses? Look at many examples in history of societies that due to war started having far more women than men. They did not all start banging the same dudes, most died alone and childless.

There is ample supply of female misfits, gangscum, criminals, infertile women, women wanting to fight to fill the role.

>>53149360
>he doesn't know about the multiple books and codexes where guardswomen are mentioned
>he thinks the imperium has a population problem
>he literally has never read a piece of 40k fluff
I can't wait for my all femguard army so I can paint their lasguns pink

>>53149325
Given the amount of content they put out, meticulously checking every single possible combination is not realistic. The best way to balance things is to remove the exploit entirely.

>>53149369
Ultramarines

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>>53149369
>no chaos nu-marines
>playing against loyalists with my csm will no be like fielding a bunch of midgets against an army of huge thick-cocked alphas pushing my shit in for the emperor

alright the CSM neglect was painful in the past but now the red-headed stepchild status has gone TOO FAR

>>53149343
That still doesn't explain anything. You haven't said what's actually wrong with it, you've just said it is.
So what is wrong with the 8th edition way of doing characters compared to 7th. Don't say that they should have balanced the dexes instead, explain what is actually wrong with the new system.
Because right now you only seem to not like it because it's new and different

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>>53149362
Wait your right! The guaranteed hits (most likely D6 or some shit) will mean I can more consistently charge through cover. Thank you based 8th.

>>53149373
You could simply not have death star units by balancing the codexes themselves.

Not by making a sweeping core rule mechanic thats just pants on head retarded.

>>53149373
>ordered some Cataphractii Terminators

>might put some Stormshields on them, if possible
>add Asterion Moloc
LET THE SLAUGHTERING OF TACTICAL SPEHSS MUHREENS BEGIN

>>53149325
>Like I said it's like an 800lbs man duck taping his fridge shut instead of simply not eating.
That's what GW has been doing for years with shitty results, already.
Now, it's tabula rasa time.

>>53149373
Celestine and her helping of EXTRA THICC are part of a rule's package, you can't take her alone. I bet that instead of the rez, tho, she will have a SHITTON of wounds, like on par with a knight.
Inquisitors are actually ICs, the rule would apply.

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>>53148313
holy shit, if this is your work you are a great painter, but i think you need more practice with the eyes! Meanwhile, my eye work is god like but i still fuck up at edge highlighting

>>53149369
GW figure out people only by marines.
So WHF was axed in order to have Ground Marines.
40k run out of space marines so they are making Space-Marine^2 to increase sales.
In fact they want so much marines that they made 30k so they can have more marines release with their marine release.

8th is Ultramarines vs Evil shit marines, also there is this guys here we don't care

Buy more marines!

Every time GW releases something marine related, God kills someone that would love you

>>53149373
If anything it would seem like retinues are more usefull than they are now. Like a command squad actually being used to escort your libby/chaplain/captain, rather than a cheap, 5 meltagun suicide unit in a drop pod.

Which armies have no retinue option for their HQ btw ? I mean if even Nids have Tyrant guard ... It surely is impossible to have it worse than the NPC race :^)

>>53149397
The new guys are about as big as Rubrics.

Are Nids going to be fun in 8th do you think?

I've been out of the game for a couple years now but might get pulled back in.

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So, my only regular opponent insists on setting up every game as a city fight, because he's got a shitload of scenery. He also plays marines.

How fucked am I? Already struggling to get to grips with his gunline armies as I play mostly high-mobility, low-survivability stuff (speed freak orks and admech with lots of ironstriders and sicarans). Seems like this will be a lot worse when I get little benefit from cover and he doubles in survivability.

>>53149400
>you could simply have your cake and eat it too!!
Eighth can't come soon enough, I will literally jerk off to the new rules and use WAACfag tears as lube

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>>53149369

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>ICs can't join units anymore, just like AoS

what the heck. I've read how it works so it seems like it won't be so bad but this will be weird to play as I've only played 6th and 7th 40k, this means my chaos lord doesn't need an escort anymore so he can just . . . bike around by himself. he'll get lonely.

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>>53149424
get back in your tank charley

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>>53149360
>setting where people are canonically easier and faster to make than guns
>main Guard faction from a planet where every single person is a grunt in the army at some point, regardless of gender

>>53149433
Scenery usually helps assault armies, lol.

>>53149454
He can still drive next to his friends, he's just not part of the same "unit"

>>53149362
>Hive guard
Oh, you are right. Alternatively, maybe zoans will be able to snipe with their psyker lasers ? We'll see.

>>53149433
Waaaait ... You're having trouble against a gunline army, using fast, mobile stuff, on a table with cityfight density of terrain ? How is that possible ?

>>53149457
Doesn't change the fact that sending women to die is stupid if your end goal is to make more soldiers.

>>53149454
The benefit to an escort is that they can't shoot a character unless it's the closest unit. If you bubblewrap your lord with Bikes or Spawn, he can't be shot at. If you don't, then anyone who manages to get close enough will have an easy clear shot

>>53149400
That may work in the beginning, but it would be extremely difficult to make it work
Every time a new unit is included or an existing unit has its rule changed they would have, to prevent the creation of new deathstar, test it in literally all the possible combinations to be sure it wouldn't break the game

It's much easier to make a rule that makes it actually impossible to create the current deathstars

>>53149397
>laying against loyalists with my csm will no be like fielding a bunch of midgets against an army of huge thick-cocked alphas pushing my

rubrics are allready more than a head taller than regular marines. they are the same size as deathwatch marines.

I dont really see the problem with the new rules. Your character will still be able to get in a transport with his unit, you can just walk him behind the bodyguard unit and they all go into combat together. What's the issue here? Just fags butthurt that their special snowflake combo can't be used?

>>53148875
>Professor at university
me toowhere you at?

>>53149472
>>53149480
yeah but my point was now you can kite your ICs around between units in theory (assuming you have a fast movement stat) which seems cool I guess. should be more tactical, if it's a viable idea

>>53149433
Anon have you consider. I don't know playing Rock Paper Scissors? It might a far more simple game for you to understand.

Anon honey you should be using his blood as lube while raping him in that board and units you run. Git Gud for fuck sake

>>53149238
Speaking of empire/freeguild, I wasn't in the tabletop scene when Fantasy was around but I started playing Total War: Warhammer and Vermintide and the setting is way cooler than Sigmar, I understand the need to streamline the game but they didn't have to have such gay armies. The Empire was so cool.

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>>53149479
just do what the dark eldar do make them in lab tanks mass produce and no women needed

>>53149341
Good one Bobby. Go play AoS you'd fucking love it.

>>53149394
If you released all the codexes at once that wouldn't be an issue. Like Infinity does.

If 1d4chan unpaid acoustics can find rules abuses then why can't paid GW play testers and rules writers?

>>53149398
It's retarded in 2 ways.

1. It's GW admitting that they're fucking idiots and can't balance their codexes internally.. Instead of saying "there won't be any death stars because we are going to balance our codexes" they've said "we don't trust our faggot writers (I.e ourselves) so we made a rule making it impossible. That's good enough right?"

If the new codexes are supposed to be balanced and play tested why the fuck do you even need this rule? It doesn't make any sense. They're just admitting they can't Codex balance.

2. It's change for the sake of change. It will play out exactly like 7th edition characters because you will have the character hug a unit but he won't be in it technically.

The meaning of the change pisses me off more than what the change will mean on the table. I play Tyranids, I don't fucking care for my selfish reasons.

>>53149479
women can have multiple children. In a society that focuses around making more soldiers i'd imagine they have quite a few.

>>53149500
Third world country. Well not really just the non shithole country in SA.

No longer teaching, private sector doing basic excel sheets pay way more and there is less need to worry about regressive logic

>>53149505
I don't see why they didn't just make new rules, rebrand it and everything, but keep the existing lore? I mean it's not like anyone plays aos for the shitty lore or anything.

>>53149506
Ah, the Krieg method.

>>53149506
When you get to that stage you'd just make males or some combat mutants.

>>53149479
The Imperium will collapse one way or another long before it ever runs out of soldiers.

Also see >>53149387 for general explanation, or >>53149392 for 40k explanation

>>53149131
We know that the battlefield roles are basically the same, except transports and flyers and now their own categories.

We know that there are some FOCs which look a lot like the old CAD only at different scales. At least one which requires you to take elite, fast attack and heavy support choices.

The benefit of being in a detachment seems to be that you get more command points for 'balanced' detachments with a mixture of battlefield roles. What command points do is still somewhat of a mystery. All we can say for certain is that you are limited to using one per phase.

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I made a house rule for a special character I'm working on converting. Does this seem OP? I'm not great at balance.

>>53149436
I play Tyranids. I didn't use death stars. I owned one FHT. No crones.

I'm merely pointing out its shit.

>>53149487
HOLY SHIT THEY WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO DO THEIR DAMN JOB AND RESEARCH BEFORE THEY RANDOMLY CHANGED SHIT.

Let me shed a tear.

>>53149424
Thin your paints.
That face is good, though.

>>53149521
But anon, 1d4chan isn't able to find a rule abuse unless it's at least 1-2 editions out of date.

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>>53149238
Whats the best bit sellers anyways? For 40k, Fantasy, Sigmar etc.?

>>53149479
>Imperium does stupid, non-optimal shit

Shocking. Next you'll be telling me that simply drowning the enemy in your men's corpses isn't an effective war strategy.

>>53149551
Might as well give her a 1+ rerollable save and 25 attacks on the charge, it'll all have to be redone in a month anyway

>Leman Russ S8, 3+, 12 wounds

Just watch: they'll make the fucking riptide even harder to kill than that just to spite the guard. Don't ask me if it'll have more wounds, better armor save, or higher toughness, but mark my words it'll be statistically more difficult to kill a riptide than a Leman Russ. And I will be salty about it FOREVER!

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>>53149534
yes best method more soldiers

>>53149535
exactly like space marines
>>53149564
how would that even work

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>>53149554
Being this buttdestroyed over no characters in squads.

>>53149521
>If you released all the codexes at once that wouldn't be an issue. Like Infinity does.
And what do they do when they release a new unit? Or when someone manages to find an exploit? Unpublish all your content and start again? Do you have any idea how game design works, like at all?

They're making a concerted effort to remove rules that have caused problems AND they are trying to rebalance all of the existing units. If anything, 8th is the edition where they finally start giving a shit about gameplay again.

>I don't like change
Oh, so you're just a silly billy.

>>53149526
>women can have multiple children.

Exactly, so sending them to die is wasteful.
If a woman has two sons she's more valuable creating two sons than getting sent to die.

>>53149546
>The Imperium will collapse

I don't care. I'm challenging the notion that it's idiotic not to use female soldiers in times of sustained war.

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>>53149564
>Orks
>Bolt-action anything

>>53149577
>it'll all have to be redone in a month anyway
Yeah, I know. But those rules aren't out yet.
What about it is OP exactly?

>>53149557
Hey man I wrote the Darkstrider on the Tau S10 Turret would ID Dreadknights within the first month.

But the rules writers didn't.

>>53149581
Cruddance, the father of your leaf blower meta, is a leading man so you guard babies are safe.

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Fulgrim and EC when

>>53149590
Ask the Celestial Lions

>>53149521
So, long story short, you hate it just because you don't like change

>>53149569
In 8th you can actually fix bayonets against tanks though, so that's no longer just a meme

>>53149547

>you are limited to using one per phase.

Like those strategic objectives or abilities that show up in Apocalypse?

>>53149599
>stelfy kill

top kek

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>>53149590
>how would that even work
They believe - they hit da target!
or even better - grot snipers!

>>53149590
>how would that even work

Ork sniper rifles are belt-fed. And fire really big bullets, thus making it harder to miss.

>>53149590

>how would that even work

Probably some Grot or Gretchin contraption.

What I am most excited for regarding 8th is the eventual pack of sad grognards creating a 7th edition general after the books drop.

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>>53149598
Why not send them? In the year long if not more trips to the battlefield.
You can make more soldier while traveling to the battlefield.

This are 40k ships there is enough space to have the entire earth population on them. (Well not sure if all but maybe all asia? )

>>53149600
Nothing that stands out, I was just being facetious.

>>53149596
What happened to expecting excellence and good work? Are we supposed to expect mediocrity and clap and bark like a seal when they write a rule that prevents them from being too mediocre?

If you did your damn job right you wouldn't have to unpublish anything because you did it right in the first place.

>>53149581
Is be okay with that just so long as the Riptide costs more points to bring to the fight.

>>53149618
To be fair, infantry swarming over a tank has historically done terrible things to the crew's life expectancy.

Is anyone here who plays 7th actually not planning on playing 8th?

>>53149639
>Why not send them? In the year long if not more trips to the battlefield.
>You can make more soldier while traveling to the battlefield.

Because that's still limiting their output capacity. A year will give you a baby. That's not enough for population replacement.

>This are 40k ships there is enough space to have the entire earth population on them.

40k ships are only a few kilometres long.

I hope nids get good rules
>Inb4 muh Cruddace

>>53149643
Then you make a wargame and write perfect rules. Cause people are amazing at doing stuff perfectly without even the slight chance of error or room for misinterpretation.

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>>53149606
soon I hope my brother soon we will have our daddy back

>>53149628
grots might work>>53149630

>>53149642
Oh, ok. Fuck you then.
Anyway I removed relentless and the stubborn AoE effect. The idea is that she's good when surrounded with friendly troops, but not great on her own.

>>53149663
A few butthurt faggots probably, but so far it's looking good compared to the shitshow of 7e.

>>53149670
They won't. Cruddance has shown his contempt for 2 editions and the battle shock changes prove he still hates us Nids.

>>53149602
>leaf blower meta
What does this even mean? I know it has something to do with chimeras but goddamn if I've ever seen them be more than moderately effective

>>53149663
An Eldar player at my shop with a bunch of grey jetbikes says he will still play 7th, the man is a walking stereotype

>>53149643
Be realistic anon. Do you really expect a company, ANY company, to be able to put out a perfect game day one?

Deathstars are bad, and they removed Deathstars at the root rather than trimming them away individually. GW has done a lot of shitty things in the past, but this is not one of them.

>>53149668
Oh I see you don't understand 40k

If you want to send women as baby factories mid transit you do it!

But mug 21 century logic. It stays in the past! You nimrods

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>all this butthurt

>>53149705
I bet he gets asschapped when the dice don't play ball.

>>53149663
Every edition there will always be a legion of grey-haired neckbeards who swear up and down that they'll never move on to the next edition. And they'll talk or write for hours on end about everything they hate about the new edition.

Then, eventually, they switch.

>>53149670
Don't speak of the devil, please.

>>53149740
>you only won because this is my fun list, if I bring my forge world and jetbike list it wouldn't be any fun for me because you'd forfeit

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>>53149670
I got a special folder for this.

>>53149680
>>53149730

You don't have to write perfect rules to prevent game breaking play.They just have to be solid enough that something game breaking doesn't happen.


Pay me as a rules writer and I will because I'm not mediocre.

>do you expect any company to be decent?

I could have purchased a cheaper Rollex watch with the amount my group has spent on 40k. I expect that watch to work and it does.

Why can't I expect excellence (not perfection) from GW? They certainly charge enough for it.

>>53149639
40k ships aren't nearly that big. And even if they were, growing humans on them would be a logistical pain in the arse. That's what hive worlds are for.

It's not like the male/female ratio matters much, as only a very small proportion of the population ends up in the Guard.

>>53149705
The one guy in my local group who seems to be quitting is the one guy I cannot fucking stand. To say he is an obnoxious fatass neckbeard WAAC piece of shit is an understatement.

I welcome 8th with open arms.

>>53149751
When they can't find games to play their WAAC faggotry they'll hop over. Like clock work, also they'll bitch for like a year after everytime their loosing about how "7th was better"

So what new form of weaponised autism has been released by Warhammer Community today?

>>53149780

I am expecting excellence, which is why I am pleased they dealt with the death star problem

>>53149794
Admission from GW they can't write balanced codexes.

>>53149794
8th edition doomsaying

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>>53149521
>1. It's GW admitting that they're fucking idiots and can't balance their codexes internally.. Instead of saying "there won't be any death stars because we are going to balance our codexes" they've said "we don't trust our faggot writers (I.e ourselves) so we made a rule making it impossible. That's good enough right?"

I actually think that's a good thing. They realise that there will always be stupid people on a team that large and put a system in place to limit the damage. This way they only need to be smart once, instead of being smart every time.

>>53149805

I known that since Chaos 3.5

>>53149778
This is perfect

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Anyone else legit sad that Celestine's THICCness will never be yours?

>>53149731
>Oh I see you don't understand 40k

Again, I don't care. I'm not making a point about 40k, I'm saying that it's not idiotic to keep your women from fighting in long periods of sustained warfare, it's infact the opposite.

A women can easily put out 10+ children in her life. About half of those would be boys who can be sent to fight.
Those five boys will be more useful than she would be, and that's discounting the value her daughter could bring.

You send women to fight only when you've essentially given up on the future of your people.

>>53149794
The GWs site or Us?

>>53149780
>Why can't I expect excellence (not perfection) from GW? They certainly charge enough for it.
Because your idea of what excellence is is retarded. Especially if you want to insist the new Character rules aren't an improvement from 7th.

>but balanced codex
irrelevant. Now we know that even if the codexes aren't balanced Deathstars probably won't be an issue.