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Grognards BTFO! edition.

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>>53104044

>The Duncan can!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUWQFnC2zqU [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]

>Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android.
https://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg
https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ
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>40k rules reference in wiki format.
https://sites.google.com/site/wh40000rules/

>Latest GW teases
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000/

>Latest GW FAQs.
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-JP/Rules-Errata

>Age of the emperor FAQs:
https://warhammer40000.gw-hub.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/04/New-Edition-of-40K-FAQ.pdf2
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/07/new-warhammer-40000-big-stuff-may7gw-homepage-post-4/
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my dudes > your dudes
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>>53110354
Fuck off WAAC fag.

40k isn't a game, if you don't care about your dudes then you're just a grognard.
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>>53110355
I need 8th Edition to come out in a month or less.
I don't want to play 7th anymore.
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THICC YOUR PAINTS
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>what kind of rules are YOU into?
i like 4th edition! it's very grognard
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>>53110355
Can't wait for 8th. I wanna know how my bugs will be cooked.
>angry bug noises
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>Link in Cadia article redirect to Armoured Fist instead of IG Start Collecting like other links
What do they mean by this? If they want to get rid of old IG models they would do everything to sell it out like a DV box and old Codices
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>>53110415
maybe they want to refer to rapidly attacking cadian forces instead of a gunline
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>>53110415
Maybe it has to do with the "take a unit, then you can take a transport for it" from what little of the formation rules we've seen so far.
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I can't wait for the most 40k looking model to be mediocre instead of bad.
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>>53110441
i don't think so. the transport slot is there only to take dedicated transports out of fast attack
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>Knights have 20 wounds

well, guess i'll have to buy a recast now.
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>>53110452
Please stop forcing this shitty meme, thanks.
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>>53110415
It's part of their social conditioning! They want you to think humanity's weak!
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>>53110452
>tfw when i noticed the legs are from sentinels, left arm's heavy flamer tip is from an acolyte as well as the right arm's barrel+fuel tank
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>>53110465
I know the truth hurts anon.
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>>53110467
>>>/bant/
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>>53110460
>gets demoted from super vehicle
>probably gets fucked statline after a few wounds unlike before
>no S D
>no templates
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>>53110428
>maybe they want to refer to rapidly attacking cadian forces instead of a gunline
Nah mate. As you can see when they are mentioning about a faction for the first time in article they are just linking it to its start collecting page
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So I know anything from StarCraft would get bodied by 40k (particularly the Zerg, who can't hold a candle to the Tyranids), but how badly? The Protoss particularly seem like they'd hold up well due to their advanced technology and quasi-Webway.

Terrans overall seem like they're roughly on par with the Sisters of Battle; the average Sororitas is a highly trained, disciplined, and fanatical warrior-nun wielding power armor and a gun the size of a table that shoots rocket-propelled grenades; the average Marine is a hardened criminal full of rage, piss, and combat stimulants, wielding power armor and a gun the size of a table that shoots foot-long depleted uranium spikes.
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>>53110487
Templates gone is kind of lame. Regardless if the new mechanic is more waac and gets you more consisting hits.
The feeling of placing that delicious template on 10+ models. Same happens with blast. Oh so you have 10 dudes hugging that cover, it would be a shame if my blast hit them.
Then the demo charge rolls back full 6 into the guy that threw it. Everyone laughs but I cry a little. Fun games.

Same issue with Battlecock. It is better to speed up the game, but I can't shake the feeling of my guys committing sudoku. Because the thing looks like the ork mob rule when they hit each other and more models die.
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/07/new-warhammer-40000-big-stuff-may7gw-homepage-post-4/

Reposting for new thread
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>>53110535
Yeah, kind of sucks. Firing Basilisks will never feel the same.
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Which Knight Variant has the big meltagun?
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>"Today on 8th spoilers, BIG THINGS"
>Proceeds to use Morkanaut only
>Acknowledge Nid units with a throwaway sentence
I'm pretty damn displeased with this.
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So now that Knights are actually good, which one do you guys think will complement a terminator/bike force the best?
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>>53110561
>nidfags fucking btfo again
Get NPC'd faggot
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>>53110409
>>angry bug noises

>new article about monsters has carnifex on cover
>shows morkanaut rules
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>>53110537
So this big melee unit has only 4 attacks? Or I'm confusing ork nauts?
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>>53110535
yeah i'm ready to let go of flamer templates but mortaran, orbital strikan, battle cannonan and bomban i'll miss
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>>53110537
>Damage effects
Makes me nervous about my nids...
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>>53110561
>>53110572
>>53110588
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>>53110588
i'd rather take a limping, bleeding, pants shitting carnifex after 10 plasma shots than a dead carnifex after 5
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>>53110559
How do Knights work? Can't I customize it as I want? Am I forced to use a specific one?
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>>53110561
>didn't mention a single word about wraithknights or stormsurges
Which I don't really mind, though I would like to know how wraithknights compare. I don't really use superheavy/gargantuan equivalents, but it'd be nice to have more than one example.
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>>53110574
Original Nauts have 4 attacks too.
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>>53110609
Every knight has different variations of what they can take. There's a bunch of knight classes and they all have their own things.
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>>53110574
it's not strictly a melee unit

you get like a max of 6 attacks on a walker pretty much in 7th
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>>53110572
New GW does not understand non marine armies.

>Gathering Storm: Fall of Cadia
>Castellans of the Imperium detachment
>Picture of Skitarii
>No AdMech things can be use in it
>Why.jpg

I'm pretty sure GW works in different offices, everyone doing their own shit till the deadline. When they gather up and try to glue in place the wildly different ideas into a single place.

While there is still one based guy that remembers 40k is a joke.
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>>53110607
Same. Damage driven devolving statlines are a great idea, and I like it.
>>53110588 , you should be happy having the rules helping your forge the narrative, better helping you envisioning your bugs slowly dying a painful death. Aren't you happy ? It's like you don't like FUN(tm).
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>>53110628
Lame. I would have loved to rock a twin-flamethrower salamanders knight.
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>>53110632
>admech
>imperium
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>>53110632
>While there is still one based guy that remembers 40k is a joke.
who?
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>>53110644
>salamanders knight
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa
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>>53110644
>chapter specific knight
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>>53110648
He's talking about himself. He's super cool.
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>>53110659
>>53110662
Explain please, I only play Eldar, I never touched a Space Marines.
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>>53110679
>pointy eared weeb faggot doesn't know basic lore
lmao, go back to you Str D hugbox
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>>53110648
There are moments in there. The most recent is in GS3 with Celestine almost moaning as Girlyman cut down black legion marines.
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>>53110572
Stacy did this.
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>>53110691
>Ad Mech creates, brings and maintain equipment and vehicles for the whole fucking Imperium
>"nu-uh not the knights u dum they are spesciul"

wew m8
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>>53110679
Imperial Knights aren't space marines. They're semi-independent kingdoms of mini-titans which are loyal to the Imperium and usually (but not always) tied to the hip of the Adeptus Mechanicus.
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This is a public service announcement

There have been reports of repeated shitposts that resemble the one shown

This poster is a faggot
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>Want to buy a Start Collecting and an Armoured Assault box
>Not sure if GW will not pull a new better newbie deals out of it's ass or release a new models
Fuck me
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>>53110708
This post doesn't even make any sense. Please kill yourself.
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>>53110720
Fantastic post, king nigger.
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>>53110721
Be patient. At worse, if there's a turnover in boxed sets, you'll be able to get the old ones from retailers for a while.
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i hope iron hands chapter tactics and relics get absolutely destroyed
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>>53110679
imperial knights do not fall under the organisation of a space marine chapter nor I think any other forces like the titan legions

they instead come from knight households that while allied with the imperium they can move rather independently, at best knight houses or a bunch of individual knights may have connections with the mechanicus or develop personal preferences, so having a knight allied with space marines is not out of the question, but having a knight adopts the colors and insignia of a chapter is like having a guardsmen regiment do so.
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>>53110706
It's kind of weird. You think she would have asked about her Tyranids instead of Orks
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>>53110720
>This poster is a faggot
I agree
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>>53110773
At best they can earn the honour of having the chapter insignia on their Knight somewhere.
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>>53110729
Why? Adeptus Mechanicus takes care of everything, and the Knight have the Omnissiah mark everywhere. If so, it would make sense for the knights to be the same as a vehicle, hence my post. I didn't knew >>53110716 so it was an honest ignorant post, no need to be so upset. Drink more water and don't go to bed too late.
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r8/h8 etc?
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>>53110792
Dude, you're just rambling off about bullshit at this point. I was critizing you for not knowing basic lore ie. that Knights are not fucking part of Space Marine chapters and therefore don't wear their heraldry.
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>>53110804
w8 4 8th
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>>53110804

I can only imagine these guys will get worse in 8th.
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>>53110811
Nigga he's saying that he guessed something he hadn't looked into, other people are capable of seeing it without being a twat, you don't have to get pissy about it.
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>>53110811
And I just told you I took for granted they would be part of whatever the fuck they want. I now know I was wrong, but hell you got really upset. I can't even take you for a shitposter, you are a genuine aspie, m8.
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>>53110866
>u-ur dumb!
Typical weebfag. Go back to 1d4ddit
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>>53110890
>filtered message

ooh so it was a shitposter after all. Silly me.
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>>53110908
>a fucking filterfag
>also a weebshit player
You really can't make this shit up.
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>>53110908
>he keeps stubs
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Based on the limited knowledge we have of the rules, stats, and such right now, how does the Morkanauts (and maybe Gorkanaut) look compared to their old selves?
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>>53110918
I know you're having fun fucking with someone for guaranteed replies, but could you not shit up the thread for it?
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>>53110937
Fanfuckingtastic. Only downside is that a lack of Stomp will make it vulnerable to tarpits, but it might have a special rule for thay.
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>>53110944
he went full retard. Ignore and move on.
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>>53110956
maybe you can shoot secondary weapons in close combat
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>>53110937
You know, there's a rumour that you'll be able to assault out of it.

NOBZ IN A NAUT HAVE COME AND SO HAVE I
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So with 8th around the bend how are Genestealers lookin'? I got the start of a cult going with some Metamorphs, some acolytes, and a broodcoven from half of the overwatch box, but I don't wanna invest anymore until 8th is here. But are they looking alright so far or something I should just stick on the backburner unless I see a really good deal?
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>>53110979
I would laugh so hard if Nobz in a Naut become the new Riptide Wing.
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>>53110960
>>53110918
>>53110890
Enjoy life instead of wasting your time getting angry for dumb reasons. Just ride the gondola. It's gonna be alright.
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>>53110976
See >>53110960

>captcha: refuse disposal site
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>>53110990
Meme magic is a hell of a drug.
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>>53110752
Yeah, I just hope that people will not buy out everything when new rules hit the ground and __Tau__ or _Nids_ turn out to be superior in 8th edition because I'm thinking about one of these two
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>>53110987
They have such a big gimmick that I have no clue what's going on with them until more rules come out, or even specifically their special infiltration.
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>>53110830
rats
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>>53110990
>WAAC fags move to Orks
>Unpainted Orks now reign supreme

I don't like this timeline.
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>>53111005
>le spergo sparde so le funni xD
Name the 1d4dditor, blame the 1d4dditor
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>>53110990

Guys, I've been having trouble at my LGS. I've been running Nobs in a Naut, and people have stopped wanting to play me. I mean, it's not like I'm spamming them, and I just really like the model.
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>>53111043
>It's almost like I'm playing 5th again!
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>>53111027
>xeno lover
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>>53111043
>New to the game
>Play Orks
>Still haven't even finished assembling my army, let alone paint it (a few units painted though)

Shit I got to stay ahead of the WAAAC curve!
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>>53111063
I tried to paint them, I really did. I just did such an awful job with the space marines in that old box I was scared of ruining them. Im sorry.
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>>53110990
What's so good about shitty overpriced infantry in a mediocre walker again?
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>>53110515

the zerg are actually a lot better at genetic engineering and their grunts and big stompy monsters are a lot better than the tyranids

the nids just outnumber the zerg 10,000 to one and evolve a lot faster, so all the zergs advantages would disappear very quickly and they'd get buried in hormagaunts.

also the shadow in the warp would do horribly funky things to them
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so i guess flyers will only have some cover instead of only snap shotting them?
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>>53111068
This entire post is fucking abhorrent jesus christ
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>>53111081
Haven't you heard anon? New addition with a big rules shake up is coming!

DA TIME O' DA ORKS IZ 'COMMIN!
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>>53111083
Zerg psychic powers do not use the Warp.
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>>53111083
>10,000 to one
not even close
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>>53111078
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>>53111101
This meme isn't just bad, it's awful.
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>>53110574

its also got a bigass plasma weapon and a smaller plasma weapon

and a super shoota, and a bunch of rokkits too.

and its a transport, these things can do whatever they want really.
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>>53111081
Nothing. Anon just noticed the Morkanaut's profile isn't that mediocre anymore in 8th, and since there is a consistant rumor about assaulting out of all vehicles, the infamous meme combo may become viable, which would be funny.
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>>53111043
Those are WAAGfags then
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>>53111126
>not locking arms in solidarity with your Ork bros and hope they get the buffs they need

Anon....
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>>53111140
You. I like you.
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>>53111149
I don't make brothers with xenos filth, much less space niggers, sorry.
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>>53111097
>Not loving the superior tactical sculpt of Tau infantry
I feel bad for you, brother
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>>53111169
Tau aesthetic is a shitty gundam knockoff and their lore is a special kind of awful.
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>>53111103

>zerg psychic powers don't use the warp

don't they connect them to some pool of energy in another dimension or something? haven't played starcraft in a while

>>53111109

may not be exactly correct, but the fact remains that the tyranids significantly outnumber the zerg, even if individual zerg units are better than their tyranid equivilent
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what side of the galaxy are your dudes on guys ?

i'm getting worried for my space soviets
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>>53111160
Kroot are space-niggers running around in the jungle with spears.

Orks are just space-chavs.
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>>53111101
Da konzetratet WAAAGH powa ov all da saulty Orkplayaz will finnaly manifesch... manyft... show up
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>>53111169
I figured out recently the thing I hate most about the tau is the fucking stupid hoof feet they have and they feel need to be exposed when the rest of their suit covers their body. Other than that I really like them, and I kinda wish I'd get a commission to do them up with some "Candies"
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>>53111195

my blood angels are on the wrong side of the galaxy

my kabal was in the shitty corner of the webway, so they're probably fine ironically

my demons are very happy with how things are currently going
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>>53110559
Errant
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>>53111204
Both are retarded subhuman scum so it still works.
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>>53111195
>Ugh
>what?
>Got sumthing in ma eye
>nfm itz just a flash o' light.
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>>53111195
Maybe you should try not-being a commie faggot then.
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>>53111149
you forgot your pic.
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>>53111195
My Kabal isn't.

Commorragh endures!
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Do we have any idea how the factions are gonna be set up? are we assuming it's gonna be an AoS thing where forces are gonna get split into like "Imperium", "Chaos", "Xenos", "Other xenos"?
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>>53111295
Imperium, Chaos, NPC 1, NPC 2, NPC 3
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>>53111295
Probably but it will not work like AoS grand alliances. I bet you will not be able to run Nids and Crons in one army because they both share a "xenos" keyword tho
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>>53111305
More like ULTRAMARINES, Chaos, Imperium, everything else.
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>>53111305

>Imperium

>Chaos

>Eldar fuck you GW I'm not calling them that retarded new name

>Reasonable Xeno's (tau and crons)

>unreasonable Xeno's (everyone else)
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Crossposting from /e/'s K-Kisekae thread it's basically a shitty flash dress-up game that got so much shit added to it it turned into a de-facto art program

I was bored and wanted to see if I could make a Techpriest Enginseer; what does /tg/ think of her? There aren't any hoods, unfortunately, and I'm still not satisfied with the power axe, but I think she turned out pretty well otherwise
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>>53111282
These Painboys are getting creative!
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>>53111295
Imperium and Chaos, then a Xenos book, described as "very granular". Xenos aren't allied, just bundled together until they can get actual new codexes out.
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>>53111282
>when you piss off the dok
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>>53111195

My Elysians are on the Terra side so I'd like to think they are safe for now..

Sorry to hear your boys are on the getting squatted side. You're there along with the Mordians, Attilans and Blood Angels who have mad rumours surrounding them about getting wiped out.
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>>53111350
Nice, but seems to need more tendrils and tubes.
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Think we'll still be able to take an army of just knights?
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>>53111424

Probably. Probably will be just as boring to play with and against as they are now.
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>>53110574
I'd guess that big models like that will have a small number of high damage attacks, kind of like a las cannon. Or they might get some kind of stomp equivalent attack, 2d6 S4 AP- hits on the closest unit at the end of the combat phase.
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>>53111350
Ok now I want to make a cute female Skitarii vanguard without an arm.
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/07/faction-focus-chaos-space-marines/
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>>53111195
The Inquisition is everywhere, citizen.
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>>53111429
Fair, I just like painting and playing with big fuckoff robots.

On that note is there a variant knight with a plasma cannon? If not, why?
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>>53111446
Holy hell I was not expecting the faction foci to come so early
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/07/faction-focus-chaos-space-marines/
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>>53111446
>>53111469

>Yes, you read that right, you will want to have Chaos Space Marines in Chaos Space Marine armies!

THEY BROKE NEW GROUND
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>>53111446
>We’ll be back in a few days to here from Reece about the Astra Militarum.
>here from Reece
New Games Workshopâ„¢ does it again!
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Please let my Baneblade rock over 30 wounds!
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>>53111446
It might be nothing more than reiterating what the players have been asking for, but at least it shows they're listening. Here's hoping the real rules are good.
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>>53111446
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>>53111469
>>53111446
>Abbadon has always been a bit of a disappointment to me. I have tried to play him in countless armies, but he often just ended up poking himself in the eye with Drach’nyen and not accomplishing a whole lot. Well how about we change that around and allow Abbadon to kick some serious Imperial tail?
B A S E D
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>>53111519
>Imperium, be prepared for the Black Legion to cast an ominous shadow across the galaxy once again.

IMPERIALFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
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wtf i love chaos space marines now

you convinced me gw with 0 actual info
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>>53111446
>8e has playtesters
my body is increasingly ready
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>mfw the new article about Chaos Space Marines took over 16 Paragraphs to say that vanilla Chaos Marines and berserkers are getting buffed. Also Abbadon is getting a new ability.
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>>53111532
That means AoS silly.

8th is basically AoS second edition in case you didn't notice.
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>>53111469
>https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/07/faction-focus-chaos-space-marines/
>Be an Emperor's Children player for 10 years now
>See this
PLEASE BE GOOD.
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>>53111398
What sort/where, do you reckon? I was originally going to have tentacle mechandrites on her severed arm, but I couldn't find a way to get them to look decent.

>>53111442
This is just about the highest form of praise I can think of; godspeed, anon. I actually just finished getting my first box of Skitarii primed, and I plan on starting to paint them after I finish up with finals.
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>>53111446
>nothing on TSons
Into the trash it goes!
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>>53111544
More like AoS was the beta test for 8th
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>AM in a few days
TIME FOR HAMMER OF THE EMPEROR

YES, THE HAMMER IS BOTH MY OGRYNS AND MY PENIS
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>>53111593
Unless they give us profiles, I'm not getting my hopes up to learn anything substantial.
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>>53111593
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>>53111111
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>>53111544
yes we noticed. we have people constantly telling us.
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>>53111593
Will Basilisks finally get crews?
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>>53111632
This. I can make an halfassed "this guys, which happen to be my guys, are super duper awesome" post myself, I can't trust this yet.
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>>53111549
I'm playing nids, but I do hope that you'll get some shiny buffs. Slaaneshi players have all my sympathy.
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>>53111706
I don't think slaanesh is going anywhere we just aren't gonna get anything new, which makes me sad.
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>>53111446
>Abbadon has always been a bit of a disappointment
chaos btfo


how can an article tell us so much nothing?
>guys you know how it all is shit?
>don't worry, I swear it won't be the same
>here's something you'll have to wait for release to understand and the same changes we've unveiled previously
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>>53111446
> deluded lapdogs of the Emperor.
I'm a little bit triggered.
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>>53111664
Oh I got lucky there. And now the article showed up. Kek
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>>53111756
>taking the warp-addled ramblings of chaoscucks seriously
You deserve to be triggered.
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>>53111532
Yeah Long War Confirmed this weeks ago that GW has been using the WAACfagiest of WAACfags to play test their rules, find the broken shit and balance it.

These guys are just now getting permission to release through GW what they came out with. And I'm loving what I hear about my CSM. Praise Slaaensh. I might even have to make some noise marines now. Hell I might even add some variety to my havocks or something.
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>>53111543
Well, they can't reveal TOO much...
Also, they're being a little coy in order to generate hype.
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>>53111850
>inb4 absolutely nothing is changed because all the waacfags want to keep their overpowered shit
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>>53111850
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>>53110384
>Fuck off WAAC fag.
>40k isn't a game
Are you Jervis?
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Are Renegades and Heretics going to have rules in 8th?
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>>53111593

Artillery spam soon IG players.
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>>53111909
I'm expecting part of the way they did it was to have the dudes go through a few mock tournaments.

No way any WAACfag would be able to resist using the most broken combo they could find hidden in the rules, especially if it wasn't their own.
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>>53110452
>Implying assault units will EVER be good in 40k
LMAO at the cognitive dissonance. The studio has repeatedly nerfbatted assault units for THREE ENTIRE EDITIONS. Just how long will it take for you to accept that the studio HATES assault units and assault focussed armies and WANTS them to suck?
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>>53111985
All Forgeworld armies and models will have updated rules.
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>>53111985
Moshi Moshi Sicarius Desu?
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>>53111986
Finally, an excuse to make a DKoK with Basilisks and that thing that tunnels..
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>>53111985
All their models are going to have rules from day 1, but we don't know yet if they will have army rules or they'll play the same way
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>>53111738
>hi, I'm Hypee McHypeman, the hypeman of CHAOS!

Article is a bunch of hot air and no substance.
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>>53111985
The question is *when* will Renegades and Heretics have rules. It's not 100% clear if forgeworld will have rules on day one, but if they don't they will have them soon*

*I say and un-sourced post saying 2-3 months
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>>53110561
LOL once again another delusional faggot. Are you under the impression the nids have been TERRIBLE for three editions now by accident?

You are NPCs intended to lose to LIttle Timmy's Numarines. Accept it.
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>>53111985

Hope not. Tends to be just WAACfags playing them.
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>>53112039
They have confirmed in one of the comments that all the FW models will have rules by the first day
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>>53110632
Now that's not fair. They actively HATE several of them as well. Nids, Orks, Dark Eldar.
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>>53112037
>"b-b-but new rules guys! old models wooh!"

eh. I hope we don't get an article like this everyday until release day.
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>>53111985
>>53112039
It's in the FAQ
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>>53112039
Unsourced post reporting.

I guess it depends on the playtesting. GW was testing excessive this time, so it would be a great gag if FW just slapped point costs and profiles on their tanks with a scatterdie and hand it out free on release. If they don't do that however, it may take a while
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This has got to be one of the most horrifying things I've seen. Why would someone do this?
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>>53110987
I dunno, were they good in 5th? (No) Were they good in 6th? (No) Were they good in 7th? (No). Hmm, it's truly a mystery how they will be in 8th. (Hint: They will suck. The Studio hates the nids and hates nid players.)
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>>53111101
>Thinking Orks will ever be good again
LMAO
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>>53112110
Except he's talking about the Genestealer Cult that was actually pretty strong in 7th edition
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>>53112105
I knew a guy who did this, since he found it easier to paint and assemble.

I agree with you though, this is fucking horrible
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>>53112105
they thought with all the coats and stuff they should paint before assembly, but they stopped thinking there
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>>53112007
>your customer base has been buying ranged models for 3 editions
>release new edition with new models and melee emphasis
>customers buy more new shit from you as winning strategies are revised
>profit
But keep on praying for more shooting there buddy
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>>53111986
I love you and your Firstborn so much anon.
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>>53112054
Yeah, I've played artillery cheese lists and they're not fun. If it makes any difference to you, the only arty I use is rapier destroyers.
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>>53112087
>>53112061
Until GW explicitly says that the rules for forge world will be available day one I will not be making the jump in logic that they will be. I'm hoping that 's the case, I just started on R&H, but it's stupid to assume so.
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>>53112087
So we'll hopefully be in the Grand Alliance: Chaos book or whatever it is on launch? Thanks, anon.
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>>53112203
That is literally GW explicitly saying that, it's the FAQ on their site.
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>>53112110
They were great in 7th. GSC version, which he meant.
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>>53111986
Nice army.
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>>53111058
>Spurdo is reddit
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>>53112203
In today's article someone asked about that in the facebook comments, and they answered it was going to be from the first day
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>>53112235
Don't blame him, for he's obviously mentally challenged.
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>>53111986
>this guidepost firstborn and everyone starts sucking his dick
>>53111593
>Posts shitty cadians and nobody says a word
Abba Dabba Doo, get cucked loyalists!
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>>53111446

>hundreds of hours of playtesting per playtester

Seriously, what the hell happened to GW? I still can't believe that they have a fucking fansite, to say nothing of actual playtesting by the competitive circuit.
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>>53112218
There are these >>53112087 three statements. It is implicit not explicit that the first two apply to the FW statement.

>>53112278
Excellent! Now I just need to hope that heavy ordinance batteries are still worth taking
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>We’ll be back tomorrow with some good news for the little guys, when we look at how infantry work,

Now that is something I really wish to learn more about. I love me some infantry heavy armies, but somehow humble footsoldiers seem to have become more and more trash and obsolete over the editions.
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>>53110561
Not even a word on Baneblades, either!
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>>53111398
Enough augmetics y/n?
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>>53112333
How do you model your ordnance batteries, anon? Trying to get earthshaker cannons off bitz sellers is a pain in the ass.
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>>53112404
>all that disgusting flesh
>not even any pipes of hoses coming out of it
>still having genitals and not a toaster
gross
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>>53112404
Admechan is not for lewd. i'll call the inquisition at once.
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>>53112481
To be fair, she's only a lowly enginseer, not a Magos.
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>>53112404
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>>53112235
That's right 1d4ddit. Grow the fuck up and deal with it.

>>53112299
>imgur filename
You literally can't make this shit up lol
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>>53112512
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>>53112404
N. Not nearly enough.
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>>53110759
The gorgon chain is good. But the 6+ fnp and iwnd on vehicles and characters? I feel like MoN giving relentless, plus 1 toughness, and shrouded is much better.
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>>53112534
>>53112512
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>>53112575
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>>53112575
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inb4 a mod misinterpret it all as some clever shitposting
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>>53112383

Troops choices are pointless when you have grossly undercosted walkers, deathstars and GMCs running around. Here's hoping GW has realized that.
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>>53112611
>>53112624
by using encoded text to represent your 0s and 1s you are wasting the Emperor's bandwidth.

>eight stage captcha wtf I swear I am not an AI not even a servitor
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>>53112423
I found a seller on ebay out of Hong Kong for the forge world model. Good prices(38usd in this case), free shipping, ships out quickly.

ebay: /usr/vinson68?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2754

They some times remove all their stock for days and to repost it later making it hard to find. I kept searching for "warhammer earthshaker" and eventually found the above. Now I check their store each day if I'm looking for something.
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>>53112685
>171 145 141 162 040 066 060 060 064 061 071 071 071 015 012 163 164
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>012 155 171 040 163 151 144 145 163
>170 104
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>>53112720
Hm. That's a good price, but it's still not much cheaper than just buying a plastic Basilisk and doing some kitbashing.

I'll keep it in mind anyway. Thanks a bunch, anon.
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>>53111446
i'm actually disappointed in this one, because it doesn't really tell us anything at all aside from the dude going YEAH YOU KNOW THIS UNIT? IT STILL EXISTS AND IS BETTER, SO IS THAT UNIT, AND THAT UNIT. just kinda wasting words without telling us anything
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>>53112512
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>>53112312

Getting excited about Cadians is like getting excited about the piece of toast you've eaten for breakfast every day of your life
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>>53112720
The only problem with this is you don't know what kind of quality you're getting. It's obviously a recast, so you could get...anything. I've run across the same store before and considered grabbing a few things, but I'm wary.

>>53112770
To be fair the original kit costs MUCH more than a plastic Basilisk. And you can use that carriage as pretty much anything right off the bat, I find it to be a really sexy kit.
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>>53111478
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>>53110537
so literally the AOS mechanic for high wound things ported over to 8th.

if this surprised anyone you have been living under a rock the last two weeks.
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>>53112883
Well, it's apparently WYSIWYG.
I considered buying them, but they don't ship to my country.
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>>53112883
So the two earthshaker batteries I got had some thick mold lines on the main barrel and in general. The renegade crew had some cleaning up but of six dudes only one had an arm break and it glued back on fine. I'm quite satisfied with them. I only order such on ebay because they have a clear stock, no waiting for it to be cast.

I have an emperor's children contemptor in the mail, that will be the true test of detail.
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>>53112964
Sure, but what we did get was a good benchmark for thinking about units. If we know the 'nauts are T8 W18 that gives people something to go off of to speculate about their own units. Also M8 is interesting.
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>>53113027
im just glad things have toughness. it was one of the cringiest things about AOS that literally anything could wound anything on a fixed to wound roll.

here's hoping AOS 2.0 is a copy of 8th
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>>53112966
I've seen the listings come and go several times and it always seems to be the exact same photos, so I'm not sure I'd trust it to actually be WYSIWYG.

>>53113020
Good to know. Maybe I'll pick something up after all. I've always wanted a hades breaching drill, and now that they should get updated rules with 8e...
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>>53111986

>infantry+artillery

my niggah
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>>53113170

do you also make shooty pewpew noises when you put your armies on the table? Or am I just weird?
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>>53111986
why are commisars so sexy?
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>plan on buying new sisters to ally with my guard for assault and flamers
>tfw you realize seriphim can use their hand flamers and inferno pistols and close combat
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>>53113073
And don't forget shooting into and out of combat without restriction or penalty. That shit is so dumb.

>So, your knight might have charged my catapult and its crew, and be hacking away at them as we speak
>But I'm gonna fire it at your dragon over there, and there is no way they can stop it from doing so.
>Aaaaaand boom, your dragon is dead. Fuck your dragon.
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>>53113228
pew pew noises are for the shooting phase, anon
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>>53113228
thicc, I dig it
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>>53113228
i silently hum this in the shooting fase: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbxgYlcNxE8&feature=youtu.be&t=836
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>>53113240
Can only fire pistols in CC during the shooting phase though, so not that much help on the turn a unit charges. Unless you fire the pistols before charging ofcourse.
But depending on how much people are gonna walk their units out of melee, pistols might actually see little use whilst in a close combat. Though that still doesn't stop you from firing them into the backs of those cowardly retreating enemies, ofcourse !
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>>53113170
>>53113228

Love these armies - I really want to get into Steel Legion, as the models look great. Are they reasonably easy to make work despite the lack of variety in the fig range?
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>>53113352
>silently hum
What did he mean by this?
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>>53113228

I sometimes do the MG noise you make with your teeth/tongue when I fire the punisher.
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>>53113170
>Arty list
>Just waacvyrns
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>>53113410
inaudibly
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>>53113396
What really has to be seen is if there is some kind of negative effect from leaving the combat
Having some kind of cc overwatch (without a chance to retaliate) would most likely stop quite a few units from disengaging
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>>53113228
All my Chimera stubbers make mouth noises. All my direct hit battlecannons do too. I also make obnoxious mouth noises when my Deathstrike doesnt scatter, usually right in their face.
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>>53112105
Jesus, fuck this. My buddy who's trying to get into 40k fucking did this despite me telling him not to, and showing him Duncan's videos and shit, and he still did it. This is what his first model looks like.

>THIN
>YOUR
>PAINTS
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>>53113502
But anon, there is a negative effect. You can't do anything on your turn after disengaging combat. No shooting allowed.
The trick is to disengage CC, and letting another unit fire at the enemy in your turn, if you're a shooty army.
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>>53113502
Hopefully units are at least allowed to consiledate when no longer in CC. That way they can at least dash for cover or something.

The unit running out of close combat no longer being allowed to run, shoot, or charge is nice and all, but the rest of the army around it has no such penalties. Guess it's gonna be more about charging the most important units first, rather than just charging anything in sight and rolling up gunlines from there.
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>>53113525

JUST
>>
name some better wargames than this one right now
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>>53113656
Lord of the Rings is actually a nice skirmish wargame, despite being made by GW.

Sadly nobody here plays it.
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>>53113656

X wing
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>>53113656
I think Infinity would be pretty great to play. Only downside there is you need a dense cityscape board to actually play it, since terrain matters even more than 40k.
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>>53113656
>inb4 m-m-muh warmashit!
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>>53113676
Some of the rules and scenarios for it are wacky as fuck though
Did you see the 'Legolas on top of a Mumak' rules they put in this months WD? Bizarre AF
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>>53113656
Age of Sigmar but 8th edition might change it
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>>53113737
Anon why do you do this?
>>
Serious question, why are 40k models so kiddy looking? It's a grimdark setting, yet the models look like they can be placed in the game Torchlight seemlessly
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>Read Carrion Throne
>Thousands upon thousands of ship go to Terra with their cargo foods full of food and supplies for Terra. They leave Terra empty without anything in return since Terra produces NOTHING. It just consumes and consumes and doesn't give back. Even with everything flowing to Terra, thousands still starve.
>If a single disruption to the shipping schedule happens, hundreds of thousands of Imperials starve to death

How did things get this way? Why were things allowed to get this way? This is the capital of the Imperium.

>Regular call to prayer can be heard in the streets. Both both citizen and pilgrim enter the chapels to pray alongside each other

So...Terra is inspired by Mecca?

Anyways, Can he fix it? Can he make the Imperium great again? Can Terra to transformed to a vision of glory?
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>>53113852
>They leave Terra empty without anything in return since Terra produces NOTHING. It just consumes and consumes and doesn't give back
Well no fucking shit, that's like complaining your local embassy or local government building doesn't produce any goods for sale.
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>>53113852
>imperium can't into cultivating algae
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>>53113890
It's more like the capital city which all the enemies of mankind seek to destroy. If it cannot self sustain, then how can it survive sieges?
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>>53113916
when was terra last sieged? age of apostasy in M36?
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>>53113916
The idea is that they get wiped out before they even fucking touch terra.
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Hey loyalists and you FUCKING traitors, its me, the Sanguinor here to answer your questions only if you are a loyalist though horushitters can fuck right off
Yes I'm phoneposting from Baal, I can defend it while posting its good
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Painting my gorkanaut right fucking now
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>>53113942
>Yes I'm phoneposting from Baal
>filename is clearly not IMG_XXXX or image.png
Fake and gay, ignore and hide folks.
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>>53111195
My Daemons are in the warp.
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>>53113925
HH, Beast Wars, and according to the rulebook Terra nearly fell to alien hands plenty of times.

And now Abaddon and Tyranids are certainly on their way to Terra. Necrons and Orks possibly as well. The danger is real. If Terra is attacked and besieged than the millions of its people will surely die in the first days from hunger alone.
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>>53110481
pls stop
pretty sure memes are allowed on any board
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>>53113964
oh no
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>>53113955
I like to name my filenames because I am an organised person and do not just clutter my shit everywhere thank you
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>>53113987
no filename now retard
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>>53113815
But what?
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>>53114013
That was a selfie he just took I think
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>>53114013
It's organised my fellow loyalist friend
Sometimes I use numbers and sometimes I use names okay
>>53114032
It was actually Dante I think he has a crush on me or something
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>>53114049
Can you blame him?
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>>53114069
I mean hes really clingy and stalkey lol, the way he looks like me and keeps trying to talk to me I try to be nice around him but jesus he purposely gets mauled by gaunts so I have to kill them around him so he can act all grateful and shit
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>>53113836

It's also a painting hobby. Painting dull shades on your minis would get old very quickly.
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>>53113405

they are actually both part of the same army

As for how easy they are, they kind of aren't. Converting them can be a pain, and unless DKOK FW models are an option for you, you are kind of stuck with just the same 20ish poses for your entire list. I don't mind, since I don't like any of the plastic options GW has released for guard, but it does kind of suck not to be able to do more than just stick bits to them to differentiate them.
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>>53111129
>its also got a bigass plasma weapon and a smaller plasma weapon
>and a super shoota, and a bunch of rokkits too.
>and its a transport, these things can do whatever they want really
>be me
>be Ork player inactive since just before Morkanaut came out
>see this and new statline

Not to self: Save up for buying an Morkanaut. Also, get new paints.

Age of Imperium? This is looking more and more like Age o' WAAAAAGH! each day.

FANKS GIRLYMAN!
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>>53114170
armageddon is next.
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You gits ready for Flash Gitz?
>Flash Gitz
>M: 6 WS: 3+ BS: 4+ S: 4 T: 4 W: 2 A: 3 Ld: 6 Sv: 6+
>Snazzgun: Range: 24" Heavy: 3 S: 5 AP: -1D3 D: D3
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>>53114213
call me when they're better than burna boyz
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Post reaction images
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MUH SPEAR
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>>53110716
>>53110662
The premise of this game is an Imperial Knight house that has a specific pact with Dark Angels. So a Salamander aligned Knight would be possible.
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>>53114213
>Flash Gitz
>Not pre-Deffgun Lootas
Who cares 'bout Flash Gitz? I wanna be able to loot sum Tau/Eldar/Necron/Imperium dakka!
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>>53114201
Wait until the edition actually arrives. It should be more balanced then now, but better safe than sorry

>>53114213
I think orks will end up being M5, 1" slower than marines like in SW:A
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>Tournament Game
>I bring my usual EC Rapture Battalion, nothing fancy
>He is Raven Guard
>Demi-Company+Shadowstrike
>Basically he reroll for mission, side and deployment, and can drop turn 1 with 2 squads of vanguards without scatter and charge
>Everything goes as planned, except...
>I steal the initiative
>Proceed to blast away his scouts with 2+ cover because Sonic Blasters
>He can no longer deepstrike without scattering
>He try it anyway
>Scatters
>Mishaps
>Roll a 1
>He concede the game
>mfw I'm third in the tournament because I roll a 6 and he rolled a 1
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>>53114306
when snipers hit on 2+

except ork snipers
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>>53114306
That counts as 2 twin-linked big shootas.
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>>53114316
>except ork snipers
Tell that to the Celestian Lions.
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>>53114324
at least a grot pilots it
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>>53114348
jokaerorks
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>>53114306
>tfw i managed to find one of those AdMech dice in my FLGS' dice bin
Where can I find more of them?
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>>53114286
The premise of that game is that a lone freeblade has a specific pact with the DA, not his house, Drakkus, which was wiped out. There's nothing stopping a pact between a house and a chapter, but they wouldn't adopt the chapters heraldry or belong to it's chain of command
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>>53114308
I wonder what will happen when you can finally field Fulgrim?
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>>53114488
>but they wouldn't adopt the chapters heraldry or belong to it's chain of command
True
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>>53114531
i guess you can go full grim and dark
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>>53114170
What's up with that Marauder? It's rear elevators look different. That a kitbash?
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Which knight would best accompany an infantry based Fallen army? And is it possible to field as both LSM & CSM?
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>8th edition is killing formations
>replacing them with more and standardized deployments for all factions
Isn't this going to fuck Skitarii, since they're the only faction who doesn't have any native HQs? Are they just going to roll them into AdMech?
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>>53115450
It's been a while since I read Skitarii but I'm sure there will be some way to fill the mandatory HQ, ether some special rule or with AdMech like you describe. There's already that combined FOC for them.
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>>53115424
In 7th edition you could with some limitations, since you could ally even armies that were "Come the Apocalypse" to each other
We'll have to see if 8th edition will keep something like that

>>53115450
They are most likely going to rolling them together, since most people wanted them to be a single faction and even the start collecting box had the AdMech HQ even if the box was technically for the Skitarii

Also they aren't the only faction without an HQ. There are the Harlequins too, and in their case they either turn one of their elite units (or the sergeant of the troop unit) into and HQ or they'll have to be rolled back into the two other versions of Eldars which I'm strongly against. Mono-Harlequins or riot
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>>53115509
gw has said they'll keep all the factions
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>>53115424
I think you could field them as either, since both technically have rules for both Loyalist and Renegade.

I think the best addition would be something with long range, either the Battle Cannon or the Gatling gun, to offer some distance fire support. The fallen have special weapons and melta covered, so they can focus on getting in close.
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>>53115450
It makes far more sense to just fuse them anyway. It was always a dumb cashgrab for them to be separate.

Now they might actually have enough models between them to fill out a CAD and be a faction.
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>>53110481
is /bant/ the new /pol/?
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>>53111593
>>53111986
>>53113170
>>53113228
>>53114170
Can I join the infantry+artillery party?
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>>53114531
Nothing, because I don't play Unique Characters.

I have my own guys and I forge their story.
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>>53116023

Fuck me that's a handsome list friendo. Are the Yetis Ogryns?
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>>53116117
cool. enjoy getting shitstomped because gw give unique characters all the useful stuff.
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>>53116188
Indeed they are.
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>>53116023
Wheel out the big guns!

Also damn fine army. I'll need to look into a chaos knight if they are any good in 8th
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>>53116210
I play CSM, I don't care.

I played on my terms before Traitor Legions, when CSMs were a joke, I'm not gonna stop now.
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>>53114170

Thanks for the advice. I don't mind being restricted pose-wise, but it would be a bummer to lose out on the more esoteric options for things like command units and Rough Riders. Still, the infantry look so much better than Cadians that I'm very tempted.
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>>53111593
IMPERIALS FUCK OFF
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>>53113852
>How did things get this way? Why were things allowed to get this way? This is the capital of the Imperium.
It was like this before the Emperor even unified Terra. The planet had been a barren, radioactive hellhole for centuries before the Emperor even started the Unification wars. There's just no fixing it at this point - it's been blasted to hell and back by millenia of human and machine wars to the point where it doesn't even have oceans anymore. Why the Emperor decided to make it the seat of the Imperium after all this is baffling honestly. Not even human heritage of our birth world is worth living on a radioactive crater.
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>>53117082
>Why the Emperor decided to make it the seat of the Imperium after all this is baffling honestly

Symbolism, mostly. The Emperor himself doesn't care about symbolic values that much, but understands how much they mean to humanity. With how many lost and isolated human colonies scattered over the worlds had myths and legends about humanity's cradle planet, it's easy to understand that "We have come from humanity's birth world to re-unite it" sounds better than "Yeah so humanity's birth world was kinda fucked up, all radioactive wastelands and such, so we abandoned it."
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>>53111195
Still chillin' by the outer reaches of Segmentum Pacificus like always, fighting unknown xenos species from the Halo Stars and beyond.
Nobody gives a fuck about Guardians of the Covenant, I'm ok with that.
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>>53115531


They said they keep rules for all current models. But difference
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>>53115531
see
>>53112087
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