Horus Heresy General /hhg/

>>53095866
First for my space dad could beat up your space dad

Anyone uploaded Sons of the Forge yet?

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Anyone know how to convert legs enough to have each pose be unique? I'm going to have around 90 plain power-armoured infantry models, and I want them to be all more or less distinguishable individually. It makes it harder because most of them will be in MKIII, which doesn't have the same kind of joints as MKIV/MKV/MKVI etc.

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Can Custodes take normal contemptor dreads?

>>53096061
No.

>>53096081
Oh fuck, well shit. That sucks.

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Reposting from last thread.

Imperial Fists
Rite Of War: Pride Of The Legion

HQ: Legion Praetor w/ Cataphractii Terminator Armor, Paragon Blade, Vigil Pattern Storm Shield, and Grenade Harness 160pt

HQ: Command Squad of 4 w/ Cataphractii Terminator Armor, 1 Iliastus Pattern Assault Cannon, and 2 Chainfist 190pt

Dedicated Transport: Legion Land Raider Phobos w/ Extra Armor 230pt

Elites: Contemptor-Mortis Dreadnought w/ Two Kheres-Assault Cannons, Havoc Launcher, and Extra Armor 200pt

Troops Legion Veteran Tactical Squad of 10 w/ a Veteran Sergeant w/ a Power Axe, Melta Bombs, and Combi Melta; 4 Combi Meltas 225pt

Transport: Rhino w/ Extra Armor 40pt

Troops Legion Veteran Tactical Squad of 10 w/ a Veteran Sergeant w/ a Powerfist and Combi Plasma, 4 Combi Plasmas 225pt

Transport: Rhino w/ Extra Armor 40pt

Troops Legion Veteran Tactical Squad of 10 w/a Veteran Sergeant w/ a Powerfist, and 2 Heavy Bolters w/ Suspensor Webs 215pt

Transport: Rhino w/ Extra Armor 40pt

Fast Attack: Xiphon Pattern Interceptor w/ Ground Tracking Auguries 215pt

Fast Attack: Legion Seeker Squad of 10 w/ a Sergeant w/ a Powerfist 270pt

Heavy Support: Legion Vindicator Squad of 3 w/ Extra Armor and Machine Spirit 450pt

Heavy Support: Legion Land Raider Phobos w/ Extra Armor 230pt

Heavy Support: Deredeo Dreadnought w/ a Lascannon Battery and Aiolos Missile Launcher 270pt

3000pt

>>53096126
List is still illegal.

>>53096190
How?

thoughts about using plastic mkIV and resin mkIV together? why is resin mkIV so DYEL?

>>53096291
Different anon, but there's one veteran sergeant with meltabombs, which they can't take (it's only available as a squad-wide upgrade on veteran tacticals). If that's what anon is upset with then it does seem a little churlish, though.

What do you think about Pius

>>53096420
who?

>>53096404
Oh oops. I must not have been paying attention to that. I'll just adjust it.

>>53096291
You have more vehicles than infantry.

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Late reply to last thread because I was sleeping:
>>53086647
>gold recipe plz
For my gold, I use P3 paints, so I'll try and relate it as closely as possible to Citadel paints as well. I usually only do one layer each, as at least with these colors P3 paint goes on thin but stacks nicely together.
>Base Layer: P3 Sulfuric Yellow/GW Yriel Yellow
>Mid Layer: P3 Rhulic Gold/GW Gehenna's Gold (you want a very rich gold with a bit of orange tinge)
>Top Layer: P3 Brass Balls/GW Retributor Armour (or possibly Skullcrusher Brass)
>Finish with your choice of brown wash, I've been using Agrax Earthshade.

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I don't wanna shit talk Horus Heresy and talk down on it. I just wanna know what the appeal of it is since story wise we already know how it plays out. And models wise, it doesn't seem too good either I suppose? I mean not good as in nothing amazing, not that they aren't good, because they are still good looking. I don't wanna step on toes, I'm just genuinely curious.

>>53096697
Literally not a stipulation. Also transports are exempt from the rule.

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>>53096697

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>>53096790
Since I'm not entirely sure what you're getting at my guy: what I find appealing about the Great Crusade/Horus Heresy era is not only the sense of larger scale battles, but the historic sense of it if that makes any sense. Although it isn't nearly as anal as IRL historic tabletop games, it carries a sense of importance and legacy. Plus, I'm personally not a fan of the 'feel' 40k era Marines on either side (pretty much all mouthbreathing zealots), while I do enjoy a lot of the different styles and methods of Marines during 30k.

>>53096790
It's the grand lore and setting and the cool models for me.

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Bad
Bot
Die

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Friendly reminder folks, loyalty is its own reward.

>>53097048
>poor little green guy

>>53097048
>poor little white bot

>>53097075
Loyalty to who?

>>53097048
>Brazzers

>>53097075
reward how?

>>53096790
They showed how the Dropsite Massacre was such a tragedy. The last stand by the traitor legion loyalists makes me cri evrytime
Also is interesting seeing how the Primarchs interact before and after the corruptions. Also dem glimpses at the Emperor

>>53097285
The whole Isstvan thing was a tragedy, with the virus bombing on Isstvan III and later the dropsite massacre on Isstvan V.

>>53097075
I hear trusting Guilliman is also its own reward.

>>53096790
For the same reason anyone enjoys a series about WWII or the Civil War.

It's the ride, not the destination.

>>53096790
It has game-wise an appeal of higher power-level gear since IoM is on the decline in 40k and before the HH it was on the rise. Fluff-wise, it expands on one of the most defining moments in 40k and adds a lot of character to the primarchs, emperor, and other named characters. It's like reading a tragedy, you know shit is going to go down but want to know how and why. It is a fair question to ask either way so don't feel bad about asking it

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>>53097220

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What's your favorite legion? Why?

What's your least favorite legion? Why?

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>>53096790
Because the themes of betrayal and desperate struggle are highly enjoyable, I love the grim resolve feeling of mashing tactical blobs together and having these identical superhuman warriors mudwrestle each other to death after shooting away all of their ammo against their brothers power armour. Also dreadnaughts make my dick hard

>>53097365
meant the whole Isstvan thing, was typing in grief
Saul Tarvitz plsss be alive
The audiobook voices of Garro and Tarvitz gave Saul's warning so much impact and meaning

>>53097529
>favorite
Thousand Sons, I can just imagine loyalist psykers using tutelaries to destroy daemons. Radical Inquisitors would love that shit
>least
Space Wolves, fucking hypocrite savages
Is my bias showing guise?

>>53097534
I know right, and Ancient Rylanor too please.
Good books for sure.

>>53097477
>It is a fair question to ask either way so don't feel bad about asking it
No, it really isn't. It's the equivalent of asking why someone would enjoy Empire Strikes Back even though everyone already knows Vader is Luke's father.

>>53097529
Favorite: Luna Wolves - Speed, Strength, Surprise, Aggression, Meritocracy, Boldness, Best.


Least favorite: Space Wolves - Part time soldiers full time going on about it.

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>>53096850
>>53096899
Seriously, how many people are still using outdated rules ? Here's POTL from the latest red book armylist.

Or is this one of those 'if it doesn't give me an advantage I want to keep using old, replaced rules' kind of deal.

The rules are that much better than 40k.

>>53097741
It's not hard to be better than literal garbage

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>>53097534
>>53097565
They're dead, Jim :^|
What audiobooks are you talking about?

>>53097529
Favorite : Space Wolves : wild and feral but loyal to the death. They have theirs own culture and proud of it. Theirs tribal spirit are there strong. Chaotic good alignement. I think they are the more human legion, they care about peoples.

Least: Emperor's children, quest of perfection is their doom, they become more and more arrogant en self-obsessed.

>>53097667
Why do you sound like such an ass?

Dedicated Transports do not count towards the rule; they never have.

>>53098008
>I think they are the more human legion, they care about peoples.

You must be thinking 40k wolves. 30k wolves aren't called the Executioners for no reason.

re-asking from the previous thread:

how nice do the tartaros and cata[hractii bits play together?

Do the tartaros shoulders and arms fit nicely to cata[hractii torsos?

>>53097920
just the audiobook versions of the novels
https://youtu.be/fdgWIcuuD6I?t=5h21m
Here's the conversation from Garro's point of view, when his ship intercepted Tarvitz who was trying to get a warning to the loyalists on the surface.
Unfortunately could not find the one from Tarvitz point of view, because his was more dramatic because less background character chatter

>>53097529
>Favorite
Iron Warriors. I dig their brutal pragmatism and love for big guns.

>least favorite
Space Wolves. Bunch of Viking cosplaying assholes with an overinflated sense of importance.

>>53097529
Favorite Legion: Renissance men legion that excels at all they do while staying humble about it. Best primarch and a cool look.

Worst Legion: Night Lords. Try hard edgy nerds that get destroyed anytime they get into a real fight.

>>53098290
Blood Angelsfor favorite*

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>>53098053
Yep, Salamanders are the muh civilians legion.

>>53098008
I though Pre-Russ SW were literally NL tier when working with humans to the point that they would rather have WE reinforcements because they had some sort of honour code

>>53098008
>>53098436
Yep, looked it up SW were the worst Legion to the people

>the 'unwonted savagery' of the Vl was often spoken of alongside the future Night Lords in the symposia of the great and the good of the Great Crusade's hierarchy

>this insult may even have been meant to unfavourably compare the Vl to the equally ferocious Xll, already become known as the War
Hounds, a Legion also renowned for the unbelievable violence of its mettle in battle,
but which was at this time held up as an
example of honourably controlled fury, its
rage directed only at the direst foes and used
to overcome the most overmatching odds.

>>53097920
RIP glorious "line officer". Oh, the traitors were wrong about Tarvitz for sure.

>>53097048
No bully.

>>53098436
>>53098577
Source on this? I'd love to read about this shit.

>>53096104
Just model them as normal. I'm thinking of getting a Relic contemptor and using the twin-HB arm as the two storm bolters the dread has, and putting a Venerable dread hand on the fist arm.

>>53097529
>What's your favorite legion? Why?

2, because they don't exist.

>What's your least favorite legion? Why?

11, because they don't exist.

>>53098620
Inferno page 74-75

>>53098634
Yes, but I can't use them in a custodes only army thought, that's the problem.

Sagittarus, the first custode dread had a contemptor chassie IIRC. Sucks that I can't run him in the game. Friendly games should be ok .

>>53098683
Cool beans, thanks anon!

>>53098716
I mean I have a trio of MKIIB Land Raiders and a regular Contemptor for my Custodes in 40k; I use them in 30k if my opponents are cool with it.

Just making models for fun is all that matters.

>>53098759
Some will be ok with it, some will not.
But yeah
>Just making models for fun is all that matters.
True, most of my primarch kit bashes will never see the gaming table most likely.

>>53098716
>Yes, but I can't use them in a custodes only army thought, that's the problem.

I just told you how to use it.

>>53098716
The Talons of the Emperor box has a shitty calthtemptor painted gold so presumably you can in 40k. Not that it's incredibly relevant.

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>>53097529
Primarily a Mechfag, but favourite has to be Word Bearers despite incompetence, mostly for the awesome aesthetic and models and partly because I like the idea of doing planetary assimilation properly and then deciding "Ah, fuck it" and literally making all hell break loose. Also summoning looks fun and I want to try it out.

Least favourite has to be Space Wolves, because barbarians playing at soldiers and culture while butchering civilians en masse for no reason is hypocritical as fuck, and all their strategy shows their supposed cunning is pretty much limited to decent squad tactics. "I have good gear so CHARGE THE GUNLINE" and then winning because plot armour is pretty much the most boring and bullshit way to write a battle, even the fucking World Eaters had good armoured assault tactics because it would get them massacred if they didn't.

>>53098787
>my primarch kit bashes
Could I see them, please?

>>53098831
Not yet sorry, since they are unfinished.

>>53098008
The SW were literally that, wolves. Even the World Eaters had a marginally better reputation than them. Hell, they were the only Legion that required MPs to keep troops in line. They didn't start becoming more human til after the Heresy. During the Crusade and the Heresy, they only cared about the Emperor's commands and themselves.

>>53099055
>only Legion

Nice lie. The text for the discipline trooper clearly states that VI needed more than regular legions (so all legions had them) and makes it pretty clear that XII needed a lot of them as well, making it harder to tell which one had more.

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>>53097529
>What's your favorite legion? Why?
Night Lords, I think the batwings on their head is funny and they have the edgiest primarch
>What's your least favorite legion? Why?
Night Lords, I think the batwings on their head is funny and they have the edgiest primarch

>>53097529
>Favorite
Imperial Fists. I love the stubborn siege boys with a passion and think they can be some of the most passionate and intense characters in all of 30k

>Least
Word Bearers. I enjoy them but the cartoony aspect of them drives me up a wall at times.

>>53097534
Huron-Fal and Temeter in Eisenstein :(

>>53097529
Favourite: Iron Hands. Tough sons of bitches, cybernetics galore and they justify me building a mechanicum force :^)

Least Favourite: Space Yiffs. Irritating special snowflakes with a cancerous fanbase and appeal to the lowest common denominator with their "VIKING IN SPACE!!!1!!!" bullshit. magnus did nothing wrong

>>53099160
>(so all legions had them)
Source - your ass. It's true Warhounds had heard of summary executions within the ranks, but not all or even most of the legions had MPs.

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How did you last game go /hhg/?
I got a game in yesterday with my Death Guard vs Squat Militia. Played a Centurion style game and it was a fucking blast having no bullshit tanks or LoW's. Game ended up a draw as we played denial and neither of us claimed the objective at the end.

>>53098779
Help I am new, how do I upvote this.

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>>53099455
Is this nigga fucking serious?

>>53099588
No the him, but that doesn't indicate that ALL legions had them.

>>53099361
blame ultrafags novel writters for that. They were cool in 40k, they were the organized chaos force, one of the main threats for the imperium. Everything was fine until some fuckers decided to use them as regular CSM for HH

>>53099621
So what does, "far larger number of Disciplinary troops than almost any other Legion," mean?

Because what it doesn't say is "only SW had them."

>>53099650
It means that other legions had them and that the XIIth probably had more. It doesn't mean that all legions had them. (although it doesn't rule that out)

>>53099410
that was the most bro I've ever seen the Death Guard. all the traitor legion loyalists would have been great Chapter Master heroes in 40k

>>53099788
Fair enough, though before I see evidence that not all legions had disciplinary troops, I'm gonna assume they all did have them. I mean, surely they serve other functions other than summary executions of crazed individuals.

>>53099815
>manually detonate your dreadnought reactor
>creating an explosion large enough to be seen from orbit
>right next to the sealed bunker doors that are protecting your comrades from getting Life Eatered

Goddamn it, Huron.

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>>53099815
Well, given some of them may turn out to have been founding members of the deathwatch/grey knights, I'd argue some were even bigger cheeses than that.

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>>53099420
Iron Hands are pretty cool. They always seem to have a bad rep because of Ferrus being the first primarch casualty, which is a shame.

>>53100043
Was it Ferrus or Magnus that shit-talked Lorgar for wanting to build a beautiful city and not conquer world?

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>>53100100

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>>53100113
Savage

>>53100113
holy shit, no wonder lorgar ended up on chaos

>>53100113
Top bantz, get rekted Lorgar.

>>53100113
Boi Ferrus is a godamn savage, top fucking kek

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>>53099973
It's like the whole "the presence of Chaplains in 40k implies marines can be found wanting in their zeal" argument we were having the other day.
Remember Krieger Commissars. They're not there because those guys are scared to die for the Emperor. On the contrary, they're there because Kriegers are too eager to do so, so they must be held back.
Astartes Disciplinary can perform many functions, especially in a time when marines were inducted on a massive scale and cuantity over quality, when turning a teen into a space marine took as little as a single year and they weren't tested against treachery, fear and other ailments of the mind, and their only spiritual training was whatever faith on the Great Crusade your Primarch could teach you. Only muscle and the rawest of mettle mattered back then.
Discipline officers would push marines to charge beings made out of fear, or to reel them back in lest their fury overwhelmed their sense of self, as it happened with SW and WE berzerkers.

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>>53100113
Ha, Lorgar's such a fucking bitch, can't even complain right

I can't find a red that I like for WB. I'm not fond of the one in Duncan's how to paint HH WB, because I think it looks to BA like.

Any suggestions? I'm thinking about trying the one in his daily how to video from last year.

>>53097529
>favourite: World Eaters
I just really enjoy the idea of a bunch of nutters running about the battlefield with fuckhuge chainsaw-axes. Also the characterisation of Angron in Betrayer and related novellas was really interesting. Made me feel sorry for the guy. Kharn is a great guy, also.

>Least favourite: Space Wolves
The whole "viking" thing doesn't appeal to me, but my least favourite aspect of them is that they insist on being called dumb snowflakey shit like "The Rout" or "Vlka Fenryka" instead of their proper designation. Also tasteful Wulfen models will never exist.

>>53100113
>>53100193

Interestingly, despite lorgar being considered the least martial of the primarchs, he had immense latent talent for whatever he put his mind to. So when he did decide to learn to fight during the shadow war, he got very good very quickly. When he decided to hone his psychic abilities, he got very good very quickly. He never came to grips with the fact that he was a synthetic living weapon (not like Dorn or Ferrus or Horus) and basically bred to conquer the galaxy.

>>53100358
I use Khorne red as base, mephiston red drybrush and then basically follow Duncan's how to

>>53100393
He's a fucking primarch, they can master anything they want to in a short span of time.

>>53100446
No shit. You missed the point.

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>>53100113
Jesus Christ. Did anyone besides the usual Friendmarchs liked or at least respected Lorgar? He MUST have had a redeeming quality. For war.

>>53097529
Favorite
>Dangles
The first and the best, not to mention the stock piles of scarey shit they're waiting to unleash

>worse
Word Bearers
I honestly can't see why anyone would like them. I liked them pre-logar and yeah they can summon deamons and what not but it's just lame.

>>53100464
I think you're missing the point m8

>that man is a genius but he refuses to do any sort of math.
>the genuis man decided to finally do some math problems and go figure, he's good at it.

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Yo, /hhg/.
Newcomer to the heresy here. Bought myself two boxes of mk3 tacticals and one box of cataphract termis as well as a hero box today (though I traded the chaplain away for a FW apothecary). I only managed to assemble this guy, my first attempt at a World Eaters Praetor.
I've been given to understand that I'll need a whole assload of chainaxes, but are there any other must-haves?
Anything else I need to know about World Eaters? Tactical recommendations and stuff like that?

>>53100551
Is that a Paragon CHAINmace? Dammit that's beautiful. I remember someone having a chain-auspex and chain-vents on his backpack.

>>53100484
>He MUST have had a redeeming quality. For war.
He was one of maybe 3 or 4 primarchs that could actually do the Sun Tzu "greatest sort of victory" thing of winning without fighting

In terms of actual combat, well, there's a reason no-one liked him

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>>53100551
Holy fuck that's beautiful. Like seriously man, you manage to blend the gritty destitution of 30k with that oh-so-loveable over the topness of Warhammer.

11/10 paint him well, also Chainaxes are rally your only 'need' to get. For army lists, butchers are top notch, leviathans and other Dreadnoughts work really well, and to complement the forward assault tactics some laser destroyer Rapiers are a good bet.

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>>53100629
Dammit so not only he could win without spending people in the fight, but even with those easy victories he was still the slowest and the one who did lest conquests? Even less than the rebuilding-ECs or the retconned-to-legion-size TS.
Damn.
Now I feel bad for Lorgar, I dislike disliking him. Dammit, I forget this setting is a tragedy.

>>53100703
He made the least worlds compliant BECAUSE he won without fighting, he took his time to ensure the worlds were properly sorted out and not shitholes for the most part. It's one of the reasons I like him, he did the job properly in more than just swinging a stick around. Also I kinda like the insane aesthetic, it's somehow way cooler than 40k Chaos. Def. going to be the legion that goes alongside the Genetors.

>>53100484
Magnus was alright to him just a bit of banter, I think Rowboat appreciated how well Lorgar's Planets were optimised

>>53100685
>>53100609
Can't take praise for that, it's just a four-sided axehead from AoS on a spare thunderhammer shaft.

>>53096395
What do you mean together? Be prepared for a pretty obvious size difference. FW marines are more upright and have thinner limbs. It looks pretty weird with FW legs/torso and plastic arms.

Basically as much as I like the plastic MKIV, I would only ever true scale them as some separate army. Mixing them just looks way too garish.

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>>53100551
>Anything else I need to know about World Eaters? Tactical recommendations and stuff like that?
This one is biased and a bit outdated, but it still says interesting stuff
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000/Tactics/Space_Marine_Legion_List_(30k)#XII_Legion:_World_Eaters
Wait, you gave an axe bayonet to his...melta-fist? Man srsly I want to see your dude painted

>>53100703
>>53100760
That's what I like about Lorgar. He'd continue the Imperial Heralds tradition of sending a skull masked guy (Herald/Chaplain) down, give them a warning of join or die, and if they joined he'd go down with his legion and help build temples and things, and if he had to fight them then if they surrendered, he'd go down and help rebuild and build temples. Lorgar was a genuinely nice guy that really wanted to just be a nice guy. His worlds were 100% compliant because he didn't leave them ruined but under Imperial control, he left them better than they were before and in adoration of the Imperium.

>>53100908
>axe-bayonet melta fist
It seems like a World Eaters thing to do.
More seriously, I thought it'd make for an okay combi-melta & digital weapon, since for some inexplicable reason I can't give the guy a second melee weapon when wearing terminator armor.

>>53097529
Fav: XX Meme Legion

Inscrutable, lethal and vaguely esoteric there's nothing I dislike about them besides the bs way "Alpharius" gets killed. Despite their mercurial loyalties I like to think that serving neither serves them best and they plot their own society a la Imperium Secundus. Smaller, and more focused on a coherent philosophy since they more or less deemed the Great Crusade only worthy of admiration and not actually achieving.


Least: Night Lords.

I probably dislike them equally with the Ultramarines. (who probably could've been blended into the IF to make some kind of all purpose mega-Legion)

I dislike them for mostly for their murderer aesthetic. I think Curze's visions is cool and I can live with his harsh justice crap but idk. An entire legion of vicious Batmen seems odd. They might've worked better as a smaller, specialized insurgency force sent WAY ahead of the crusade to horrible human worlds. Like a World Eaters Legion meant to butcher smaller areas.


I just want to write a short story of the XX and VIII trying to scare and terrorize the shit out of each other.

>>53100908
>present-tense fiction
Ughh...

Lorgar and the Word Bearers are space ISIS. That's why the Emperor slapped him. He was punishing worlds for not worshipping hard enough instead of fighting humanities wars.

>>53100944
>His worlds were 100% compliant
Not exactly. Part of compliance is instilling the values of Imperial Truth within the populace. Lorgar completely disregarded and contradicted that part of his mission.

>>53099638
>one of the main threats to the imperium
>implying any CSM matter other than the Black Legion, your occasional WE and TS in a SW book

>>53100383
>but my least favourite aspect of them is that they insist on being called dumb snowflakey shit like "The Rout" or "Vlka Fenryka" instead of their proper designation
A) Vlka Fenryka is the proper designation
B) Every legion did this (warborn/war hounds/storm walkers/dusk raiders/etc)

>>53100358
I agree with you that Duncan's HH Word Bearers video makes the red way too bright. I think he absolutely nails it with his 40k guide however: https://youtube.com/watch?v=xuDSY61mKBs

>>53100422
>drybrushing marines
Please don't do this.

>>53101077
>besides the bs way "Alpharius" gets killed
Nah, it was totally appropriate. He underestimated Dorn, both as a tactician and a fighter, and died for his hubris. It fits him perfectly, and was a fitting end to his character arc.

>>53101453
>Vlka Fenryka is the proper designation
Everybody else chose a Low Gothic name despite each having their own legion language. (Nostraman, Chogorian, etc.) The Space Wolves are the only ones who insist on their snowflakey title.

>>53101077
I don't think Alpharius's death was bulkshitting, really fit his character and the AL story arch as a whole.

>>5310152
I should have refreshed and not post an almost verbatim reply.
>>53101586

>>53101554
>SW don't even get to pick their own legion name without being shat on
This is hilarious.

>>53101521
>>53101586
>tfw to intelligent to win

>>53101554
I don't mind that, what I do mind is the extra little bit it goes.
Like, Vylka Fenryka translates to Wolves of Fenris. Which I think is actually kind of a cool name but whatever.
But everyone calls them Space Wolves instead. And they don't like it, they consider it a disparaging name. But they just let it happen for confusing, rather juvenile reasons. To the point it becomes their official designation.
Yeah we don't care what you call us, but we really do but won't make an effort to stop you because we don't care what you think but by the way we secretly do. You guys just don't get us and that's okay because we like not being got by you even though it annoys us. Teenage.

The White Scars' portrayal in the HH really did a number on how dumb some of the Space Wolves culture is.

Also
>Horus was first found, Leman second
>The two legions with Primarchs were the Luna Wolves and the Space Wolves

The Primarch-less legions probably wondered if they were all gonna end up called Something Wolves as well.

>>53101717
Iron Wolves, Emperor's Wolves, Wolves of Nocturne, Imperial Wolves, Ultrawolves, Thousand Wolves, Blood Wolves, Dark Wolves, Wolf Warriors, Death Wolves, Wolf Bearers, White Wolves, Night Wolves, Wolf Eaters, Wolf Guard, Wolf Legion.

Imagine that Crusade.

>>53101775
Everyone shies away from the Wolf Eaters because the Apothecaries kept noticing them hanging around the medical tents?

>>53101775
Peturabo would be salty he didn't get Iron Wolves and hate the fuck out of Ferrus as a result.

>>53101717
Dark Wolves
Emperor's Wolves
Iron Wolves
White Wolves
Space Wolves
Night Wolves
Blood Wolves
Iron Paws
Wolf Eaters
Ultrawolves
Death Wolves
Thousand Pups
Luna Wolves
Wolf Bearers
???
Wolf Guard
Alpha Wolves

>>53101775
>Wolves of Nocturne

Think you mean Wolfmanders.

>>53101837
Goddamn it, someone got there first. I forgot the 7th too.

Guys, which should I focus on for drawfagging purposes?

>Alt-timeline heresy focused on a series of original characters I made for each legion

>High School AU R63 Primarch Waifus

Don't give it attention.

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>>53101948
>High School AU R63 Primarch Waifus

We've all seen the last time you did that, and the nightmares won't go away.

>>53101837
>Irow Paws
Now that just sounds cute.

>>53101883
Yours is good too.
Though some of them would probably parse different. Like in that Perty book we see that the Emperor says dubbing Perturabo and implying how the legion gets named
>E: "You will be my Lord of Iron".
>P: "Yes, Father! And my followers will be your Iron Warriors!"
>E:...actually son, I was thinking more like my Iron Wolves? My Wolves of Iron? I like wolves. Do you have any here? Do you know there aren't any on Fenris? That's my first knowledge bomb for you by the way. Anyway, wolves. Iron Wolves of Olympus? That sounds nice, let's go with that."
>P: Bitterness intensifies

>>53101948
Yeah just go for the legions. Don't draw the r63 unless its lewd.

>>53102005
Ferrus was found before Peturabo and would have first dibs on Iron Wolves. Poor Perty would have to settle for something else.

>>53102009
What if it *is* lewd?

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>>53101013
>for some inexplicable reason I can't give the guy a second melee weapon when wearing terminator armor.
I know right? It's only claws that have little place in Praetor squads.

>>53102052
It would probably look horrible, because as >>53101985 demonstrates, your grasp of anatomy isn't all that good. Perfect drawing stuff with the clothes on before you dare to tackle those with their tackle out.

>>53101078
It's one of Angron's memoREEEEEEEEEEs. He's that angry because he diskikes them being in present tense.

>>53102143
What have the Jews got to do with his memories?

>>53099506
Pretty good, it was a cityfight three-for-all between Thousand Sons, Death Guard, and Night Lords.

I kind of like the Emperor being an autistically senile man with a thing for naming shit after wolves.

>E: Sanguinius, my son! So pleased to meet you and your...tribe? Of...people. What're you, uh, they, all called? So we can honor your work in the name of the warriors you will take from them to the stars.
>S: Well dad, they call me the Angel of the Blood, because they're the Blood, the tribe, you know? So I guess if we're going to literal and metaphorical ascension, we'd all be angels of the blood. So we could be the Blood Angels!
>E: Hmm, not bad, son. One thing. You haven't mentioned wolves.
>S: What?
>E: Well you know, wolves are like a tribe. You see that right? I like wolves. Gotta have wolves in your name. What do you like better, the Wolves of the Blood, the Blood Wolves...Angel Wolves? That's pretty metal.
>S: I, uh, don't really think they'll go for that, we don't really have wolves on this planet, dad...
>E: Funny you mention that.

>>53102016
Poor Pert.
>Gets dubbed Lord of Iron
>There's already literally a dude who's iron within and iron without

>E: So son, what's your name?
>FM: Ferrus Manus, father.
>E: How wonderfully literal. Meet your legion, the Big Shooty Men. Well, Big Shooty Wolves, I guess.
>FM: That's what they're called?
>E: No, they like Storm Walkers, but I was thinking of changing it to Storm Wolves.

>>53102204
Now all I can see is the Emperor as some Dog Lady who can't help but spread Wolves on every planet he visits.

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>>53101631
>Yeah we don't care what you call us, but we really do but won't make an effort to stop you because we don't care what you think but by the way we secretly do. You guys just don't get us and that's okay because we like not being got by you even though it annoys us. Teenage.
>The White Scars' portrayal in the HH really did a number on how dumb some of the Space Wolves culture is.
This. I like the fact that, despite how detached the WS are from the Imperium, nobody calls their world by their official name of Mundus Planus.
They all call it Chogoris.

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>>53101837
>>53101775
>Tfw I like both the Iron Warriors and the actual Iron Wolves
Dammit.
>Ultrawolves
Ultrakeked.
>Iron Paws
18/18
>>53102005
>I like wolves. Do you have any here? Do you know there aren't any on Fenris? That's my first knowledge bomb for you by the way. Anyway, wolves.
The Emperor is the one who actually likes wolves, and even went to splice doggo genes into his snowflakey son. It all makes sense now.

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>>53102229
Emps first words to Malcador all those years ago were:
>D'you like dags?
>>53102204
>The Emperor's plans for his son Carnis Manus take an unexpected turn...

>>53102143
What have Jews got to do with REEEing? I haven't been to /pol/ that much, so I ask you :^)

>>53102541
>The Wolves are coming!
>Which ones?

>>53102181
>>53102679
Yes, yes, you're both very clever.

>>53102684
>YES

>>53102694
I actually didn't understand his joke, so I was asking

>>53102720
Then you quoted the wrong post.
>diskikes

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>>53102804
Whenever someone responds me with a joke I don't understan, I shouldn't respond to that comment for clarification. Gotcha.

>>53102842
You didn't respond to the post that made a joke you didn't understand. You responded to the post that was quoted by the person who made the joke you didn't understand. I'm feeling very autistic typing this out, I apologize.

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>>53102873
Damn. You're right. Srry

>>53099312
kek.
Ave Domnis Nox!

>>53102191
Same...
wait..
I know you.

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>>53099312
Squatting Primarch. I like his helmet.

>>53103082
>squatting senpai
Slavlords confirmed

If Pert had compassion and was even 10% less autistic than he is in the lore, would he have been better than Dorn?

>>53103124
Perturabo is already better than Dorn. He only killed 10% of his own men to make an autistic point whereas Dorn needlessly threw the majority of his legionnaires' lives into a meatgrinder.

>>53103174
When you try to be the Space Romans so hard you kill your own men.

>>53103174
Wasn't Pert's entire thing throwing his men into meatgrinders?

>>53103206
Yes, but it was calculated and served a strategic purpose. He spent their lives efficiently. Dorn shit his entire legion away in the Iron Cage failing to kill Pert when he could have just exterminatused the planet from orbit with 0% casualties.

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>>53103124
Thing is Dorn was less paranoid so he did believe in the Crusade, and also lacked the superiority complex that made Perturabo think everyone was out there to use him, because he only knew as much as a schooloed noble knows. Lacking that, he also lacked thirst for recognition.
I call Dorn more autist not for insult or anything, but because he truly didn't listen and didn't react to external stimuli.
Alpharius died because he tried to reason with an autist.
>>53103206
His sister had the right idea: it was the combination of him getting assigned the most difficult jobs because no other would be able to do it...and him trying to prove himself no matter the cost, and getting frustrated when the ithers didn't praise his self-sacrifice.

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Figured it out after purchasing the entire citadel grey paint line and working on three test models.

>>53101627
It's called "overthinking" and/or arrogance.

Both are problems that can quite easily get a smart man killed by a dumb man.

>>53097529
It's a toss up,
I like the IWs because i like big guns and fortification.
and i like the salamanders because they are genuinely good people

WB are a shit. biggest fucking cunts in the setting and without them everything would be much better honestly
also their rules a shit
SHIT

>>53103228
>exterminatus the planet
He didn't do that on the same grounds as Horus not doing so with Terra.

It would have made a boring story

>>53103571
I don't know if Horus would have needed the Astronomican if he wanted to keep the Imperium beyond a mere star cluster. But thing is he needed to capture Terra.
Chaosbois don't need the astronomicon to navigate the immaterium, right? They just sorcer their way around.

>>53103228
The reasoning behind the iron cage was stupid, but in the end we find out the the Fist were better than the bitter warriors at their own game.

Was diving dick first into the external fortress without a single plan dumbasfuck? Yes it was.

Was sending his legionnaires into an obvious trap because of a pain induced idea severely autistic? Hell yes.

Was losing more than half his legion because he knew they wouldn't like to slipt up into chapter full retard? Of course.

Did the Iron Warriors lose to the Imperial Fist even though they had the advantage in all categories minus zeal? You're damn right they did.

>>53100908
holy shit.
i don't see anyone going
>1d4ddit
weird i like this general more

>>53097529
>favourite
Blood angels, I'm a sucker for righteous fury and a humble nature

>least favourite
Space wolves, because hypocritical ass holes (but their heresy aesthetic is cool)

>>53103691
To all those people who bitch about 1d4chan, just go in there and add your own shit. It's open to anyone and anything. It's only reddit if you let the redditors only edit it.

>>53103612
He didn't need terra

>>53103726

>a 4chan and specifically /tg/ project
>calling it reddit

This is a new level of high velocity retardation.

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Hmmm, how does this retoold 3k Imperial Fist list look? FW's email didn't answer my query of transports counting for PotL, so I edited the list around it.

Imperial Fists
Rite Of War: Pride Of The Legion

HQ: Legion Praetor w/ Cataphractii Terminator Armor, Paragon Blade, Vigil Pattern Storm Shield, and Grenade Harness 160pt

HQ: Command Squad of 4 w/ Cataphractii Terminator Armor, 1 Iliastus Pattern Assault Cannon, and 2 Chainfist 190pt

Dedicated Transport: Legion Land Raider Phobos w/ Extra Armor 230pt

Elites: Contemptor-Mortis Dreadnought w/ Two Kheres-Assault Cannons, Havoc Launcher, and Extra Armor 200pt

Elites: Apothecarian Detachment of 2 w/ Augury Scanners, Combi Plasma, and Combi Melta 120pt

Troops Legion Veteran Tactical Squad of 10 w/ a Veteran Sergeant w/ a Power Axe and Combi Melta; 4 Combi Meltas 220pt

Troops Legion Veteran Tactical Squad of 10 w/ a Veteran Sergeant w/ a Powerfist and Combi Plasma, 4 Combi Plasmas 225pt

Troops Legion Veteran Tactical Squad of 10 w/ a Veteran Sergeant w/ a Powerfist, and 2 Heavy Bolters w/ Suspensor Webs 215pt

Fast Attack: Xiphon Pattern Interceptor w/ Ground Tracking Auguries and Armored Cockpit 220pt

Fast Attack: Legion Seeker Squad of 10 w/ a Sergeant w/ a Powerfist 270pt

Heavy Support: Legion Vindicator Squad of 3 w/ Extra Armor and Machine Spirit 450pt

Heavy Support: Legion Land Raider Phobos w/ Extra Armor 230pt

Heavy Support: Deredeo Dreadnought w/ a Lascannon Battery and Aiolos Missile Launcher 270pt

3000pt

>>53103763
Sure he did, its a symbol of the imperium as a whole and the conquest of it would kind of legitimize Horus' ambition of a new imperium ruled by warriors, plenty of planets would certainly fall in line if Horus claimed the Throneworld of the Imperium.

>>53103639
>Did the Iron Warriors lose to the Imperial Fist even though they had the advantage in all categories minus zeal? You're damn right they did.
What are you on about? The Ultramarines had to pop in and save them. They only won after Roboute showed up.

>>53103792
/40kg/ for you my dude

>>53103833
So why do people not like 1d4chan? Because it's /tg/'s ED? It's full of out-of-date memes from 10 years ago? Are we that embarrassed about the past?

>>53103847
>4chan creates thing
>4chan likes thing
>thing eventually spreads to reddit, tumblr, facebook etc
>4chan disowns thing
It's the lifecycle of our website.

>>53103909
It's funny, I've seen a lot of /tg/ things never go beyond this place. Curzefag's primarch's Daughters for one, that's never gone beyond this place. Probably too cancerous even for reddit or tumblr.

>>53103277
looks like a dirty men's bathroom

>>53103929
that's because it's not interesting, useful, or even funny

>>53103811
It's cool I guess, and'll do fine against mid-level play, but your lost doesn't really 'do' anything. The vets aren't really kitted for anything so specially that a few tactical support squads won't do the same thing except cheaper.

Other than the lackingness of a theme and whatnot, it's a good list. 10 seekers is probably not worth it though

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>>53097529
>favorite
Emperors children!

>least
night lords they seem needlessly edgy with skulls and shit

>>53104243
>they seem needlessly edgy
Said the pot to the kettle.

>>53104262
they are boringly edgy and I love edgy I play dark eldar but the overuse of skulls and bat wings is a turn off ends up being boring

>>53104242
>Vets not doing anything
His list is pretty versatile and seems good at chopping deathstars; lots of AP/1.

>Lacking theme
I play EC and even I can see this is a Siege list.

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>>53102258
>nobody calls their world by their official name of Mundus Planus.
>Plains World
So where were the Scars when the DA spent several millenia recruiting marines from their homeworld? Or when they saved it from a genestealer infestation?

White Scars confirmed for worst babysitters.

>>53103792
But he didn't call it reddit. He said it is what (You) let it to be.

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>>53104452
Mundus Planus means Flat World.
Also
>that old as fuck pic
>still being canon
That fluff is deader than Horus

>>53103639
>Did the Iron Warriors lose to the Imperial Fist
No. They lost to the Ultramarines who showed up to bail Dorn out after everything was over.

Bob seems to have a habit of showing up with overwhelming force just in time to look like a hero.

>>53097529
>favorite
Salamanders. Demonic looking good guys, cool custom equipments. Shame that they are pretty much dead.

>least favorite
Word Bearers. Religious bastards, they not only caused the whole Chaos shenanigans but also turned the Imperium into a bunch of religious idiots. Screw them, specially Erebus.

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>>53095866
>80 point buyin for ML2, 2 wounds, shred bolters, stubborn
>why

>>53103724
My favorite Soace Wolves fuck up moment is from Fear to Tread.

>one squad of space wolves
>"WE MIGHT HAVE TO KILL SANGUINIUS IF HE'S A TRAITOR"
>gets BTFO by Amit and a random squad of BAs

>>53097529
Holy shit I didnt realize Space Wolves were so hated.

>fav
Blood Angels, noble and beautiful, savagely furious, but their excesses tempered by the Angel. Had a good guy Priamrch who exemplified the Great Crusade.

>hated
Wolves.
It started when in Fear to Tread Azkaellon confronts the watch pack sent to kill Sanguinius about them having a Rune Priest and the wolf captain says "his power is pure, it comes from Fenris, as does mine," and the hypocrisy just never stopped.

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>>53095951

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>>53097529

Ultras are my favorite because they're the best

Least favorite is the meme legion or sons of Horus and probably deathguard too

Would giving my preator tartaros terminator armor affect his squad in any way if I placed him with some Reavers? I want a way for him to stand out in the squad and i figured it was cheaper to place him in termie armor and still keeping him loaded out.

>>53105223
They just wouldn't be able to get in rhinos and you'd have to make space for him in any other transport. If the reavers had jump packs they could still move 12" but a few of them would have to daisy chain behind to keep the praetor in the squad.

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>>53104167
Wrong, It looks like this.

>>53105267
I was going to put them in a Dreadclaw, I'm at work so I couldn't check the rules.

Thanks for confirming mate.

>>53104991
>and the hypocrisy just never stopped.
It's not hypocrisy anymore, it's canon as of Wrath of Magnus. I wish I was making this up.

Why is it so hard for anyone but Bill King to write Space Wolves and not go full retard.

>>53105325
>Bill King
That's the name of my driving instructor I had when I was 16.

Told me to watch out when on the rode cos everyone was smokin' banana peels. He was a big black guy with piercing blue eyes. Maybe a Space Wolf?

How effective is this loadout for a Praetor?

Paragon Blade, Iron Halo, Digital Lasers, and Melta Bombs = 170 points

Do I master craft the blade for 15 points or is that honestly overkill?

>>53105325
Based Wraight has done a good job with Leman and the Wolves.

>>53100609
>chain-auspex and chain-vents

I need to see this shit.

>>53101775
>Wolf Bearers

my sides

>>53105413
In my personal experience praetors usually shit the bed and don't do anything.

I go all in and give my praetor a power fist and paragon blade cos I fluff it out that he half swords with his paragon blade and needs the power fist to hold the blade. With digital lasers that means he gets 7 attacks on the charge and pretty much ever time still manages to only hit like 2 against chaff marines. In fact, last time I played him he almsot got smacked out by a power fist wielding Iron Warrior sergeant after failing to kill that bitter boy in a challenge. Although, I do recognise that this shouldn't happen as often as it does.

Barebones paragon praetor like that isn't overkill, he's a solid combat character but don't expect the world from him.

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>>53105028
>An UM fan posted here
It's like finding an STC fragment. Stay still.

>>53105492
"All I ever wanted was the yiff. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow. I never set out to topple my father's pack of lies from a sense of misplaced pride. I never wanted to bleed the species to its marrow, reaving half the galaxy clean of dog life in this bitter crusade. I never desired any of this, though I know the reasons for which it must be done. But all I ever wanted was the yiff."

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>Be Imperial Fist player
>Given the IF Command set as a Birthday gift
>Super hyped
>See this blade

Holy FUCK this thing looks so FLIMSY and honestly will probably break in transportation; think the Vanguard Relic Blade would look better? Also time to use the MK IV Crested Helm instead.

>>53105325
>It's not hypocrisy anymore
The Emperor decreed that the Legiones Astartes were no longer allowed to use psykers with the exception of Navigators and Astropaths. Inferno states that the Casters of Runes are "undeniably an order of Psykers" so the Space Wolves are still filthy hypocrites.

>>53097529
Favorite: imperial fists because Deus Vult and pain glove

Least: Space Wolf they are blowhards with little to no sense of actual honor

>>53104531
>Anon doesn't know that the DA story is still canon

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>>53105552
It's a nice cute attempt first attempt at Sigismunding by FW, and at least that one isn't bald like the "official" one. It even has all the elements Siggy's attire is described to include.
But you could use a cooler model for the Champion of the Emperor.

>>53097529

Favorite: Toss-up between IF and RG. I love the swords and stubborn nature of IF, the knights templar pure medieval soldiery of them. They also love bolters.

And then there's the sneaky beakies. Stealth and lighting warfare. And lightning claws! Jump packs! Sneak attacks, raids

I vacillate between the same styles of characters in all the games I play: warriors and rogues, juggernauts vs. stealth. I am always of two minds on it. Which is why my homebrew 40k chapter is a mix between IF and RG viewpoints.

Least favorite: either Word Bearers or EC I think. They just do really nothing for me.blah blah for chaos! and blah blah perfection! Also they're both fucking boring by the time of 40k.

>>53098053

The whole Wolf King novella is about that transition. Alaxxes basically transformed the way Russ thought about who he was and what his Legion was supposed to be.

>>53100551

I hope by "bought box" you mean "I ebayed 20 BoP MKIII and 5 BaC Catas?"

Because it's like 50% cheaper to do that than buy the separate boxes.

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>>53105633
>Finecast™
>ever

>>53097529
Favourite: Death Guard. Utterly unyielding, without scruples or niceties. Probably the best 'soldiers' (not warriors) of any Legion, tied with the Iron Warriors, but hey Mortarion might be an autist but at least he didn't murder 10% of his dudes and replace them with fucking robots.

Least favourite: I actually struggle to come up with one here. All the Legions have their strengths and merits. Huh.

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as someone who loves dramatic tragedy horus heresy fits me so well I already love the plight of the EC from honour bound heros to depraved psychopaths. anyone else can give me some more tragic tales from HH

>>53097920

I don't need a legion. I need Saul and Twenty Good Men.

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>>53097529
>Fav
The Breaker Ones: Iron Warriors, Death Guard and Ordo Reductor. All of them loyal, of course.
Why?
Because their pride and honour is their duty. Little time for trinquets, look upon their works of unmaking and tremble, non-compliants!
The IVth pays the price to accomplish missions that have found others wanting, to the bitter end.
The XIVth bears proudly marks that would have felled others, their minds as hardened as their physiologies, and commanding the horror of Old Night.
The Reductor because warrior-nomad dakkamancers that use artillery as MBTs and bring blessed ruin, striding undeterred on the dust of broken worlds, no time for petty politicking.
But on top of it all, because I identify with their themes of thankless duty, endurance of adversity and utter destruction with the exclusion of anything else.
Despite liking those guys, I don't hate their counterparts like some would expect. Fists are my Sworn Brothers, just like Sallies, and Guilliman's better-than-thou attitude stems from his intelligence (and romans were siegers too). I love AL planning, and I relate to EC and WE attitudes of obsession with perfection and conflict as major endorphin release. I respect IHs willingness to purge weakness even if I consider it misguided like Ferrus did.
>Dislike
Lots of Wolf hate today, huh?
I don't dislike the individual viking-hunter, especially those cool-looking Ulfsarks in Cóatl's pics, but I do despise the legion as a whole, especially Russ and their snowflakyness. The same happens with the TS and their overreliance on unrestricted unlimited magic works.
Also the Word Bearers, their zeal wasted on ruinous powers. The only one I like is ex-Ashen One Zardu Layak. The whole symbiosis theme would be good if it wasn't a vile lie.
I can't bring myself to hate NLs. Curze is worst, but he can't help he's insane, and when I think of NLs I think of Sevatar and Ophion. And the Angron anthology gave me the feels.
Battle and Sworn brothers, respectively.
Sry

>>53105772
>He doesn't have a metal version
Ebay, son.

>>53105887
Saul only comes with an option for Mike. You need Ramsey if you want to field Twenty Good Men.

>>53103929

Curzefag didn't invent the primarch's daughters. That was the collective effort of /tg/ in like 2009 or somewhere close to there, it was still 5th edition rules for 40k. That's shit's been around for awhile.

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>>53100496
>I liked them pre-logar
I think many do. It's a real shame that bit of text prevents using even the Ashen Circle as loyalists. Iconoclast destroyers, man. And Chaplains are among my favourite officers, their superhuman zeal inspiring fear in the hearts of their enemies.

>>53105325

Abnett did an awesome job with them in Prospero Burns and Wraight has built beautifully on that.

Frankly, I like the Space Wolves. But part of that is I absolutely ignore the fucking idiot fans of them that try to ruin it for everyone.

One of the big reasons I think for all the SW hate is from 5th edition, when their codex was 50x better than everyone else's. They were the best for almost all of 5th and could easily mop the floor with other armies. And SW players acted all superior about it and lorded over everyone.

>>53099506
I played a simple 1500 point pride of the thousand sons (no sekmets) and got tabled top of turn three due to reserves not coming in

>>53099506
3k game using Day of Revelation Blood Angels at a narrative event. My opponent was Iron Warriors. It wasn't his army he was borrowing it for the event, we're good friends. It was a tablin' by turn 5.

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What a nice way to make a reference to the Mechwarrior Mad Cat on my Lascannon and Missiles IF Deredeo?

>>53105516
Gee wiz and he hates 3 Traitor Legions to boot. What a doofus.

>>53106104
>Mad Cat
Don't you mean timberwolf.

Subtly alter the Imperial Fists logo into a Steiner logo, maybe? Or if you're up for it, enclose the head into a similarly styled cockpit?

>>53106104
Masterfully painted. Are there more angles of it?

>>53099506
Played my Custodes versus traitor Raven Guard. Tabled him by the middle of turn five because I went full World Eaters at him and popped his armor very early on with my two Caladius and Achillus alongside my Pallas.

Charging with two squads of Guardian Spears and Paragon Spear Tribune into a squad of 20 and killing them in one turn is amazing when you time it right. Those three units crushed so much.

>>53106142
http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87904-post-your-dreadnought/page-23

Scroll down a bit.

>>53106195
Thanks for the sauce

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Just finished a veteran squad. What are you working on /hhg?

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>>53106345
Caw! Caw!

Your DG are coming along really sweet bro. Had any games with them yet?

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>>53106431
>That resin block
My comrade

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>>53106345
Painting a Rhino, adding decals, and beginning to highlight my entire force because I only recently got a proper paint for it.

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>>53106442
all hail our resin supplying friends

>>53106345
Literally buying 3k of Imperial Fists.

Help.

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>>53106442
>>53106498
I'm not going to do anything silly like ask for contact info but which chinamen would you most highly recommend?

>>53106442
>>53106498
>>53106523
Seconding this gentleman; I wanna get into HH and not have to play it in the poorhouse.

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>>53106431
I have... against Ynnari. I lost but I consider my assault Apothecary knocking the last wound off his Wraithknight to be a moral victory.

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>>53106442
>>53106498
>Bought 3 Coronus from Z
>Slight mould slip along the bottom grav pylon
>Doesn't fit together exactly flush
>The little muzzle things on two of the blaze cannons broke off
>Don't give two shits cos I saved $350
>mfw

>>53106523
>>53106534
CC is my preferred dude, his range is not as big as Z but Z's quality can vary wildly and he hasn't switch over to the new sexy resin the good casters all have, Z does have the craziest range of gear though and as such our group uses him sometimes. CC has the new resin, great prices during sales and if your getting anything big then he is a safe bet. There are a bunch of other casters and some people with champion their favs. Do your research and do a sample order.

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>>53106523
>>53106534
>Nice try FBI
I recommend Z, he's the one all my local fellow criminals use

>tfw can relate to Lorgar and Perty too much

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>>53106540
Putting so much effort and top quality work into that sexy DG army and then being forced to play 40k bullshit armies.........my condolences anon... There is no peace amongst the stars, only an eternity of carnage and slaughter, and the laughter of thirsting gods

>>53106523
>>53106534
Alpharius is a relatively new start in the business who seems to have really good resin and great quality control. At least one of their guys has really good English and is an absolute fucking memelord as well.

>>53106540
What size game?


Does anyone include fortifications in their lists, and if you do, are they in any way in legion colours?

>>53106585
Not asking for details, obviously, but have you heard anything from CC recently? I put in an order with him two weeks ago and I've not had anything back yet. I know it was labour day over there last weekend so that might've been a disruption but I'm wondering whether I dun goofed chinaman etiquette or something.

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>>53106345
Working on some IW vets made from medusan immortals, going to give them combi weapons

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>>53106593
I find it weird how people are still confused about the Alpha Legion's motivation when Deliverance Lost clearly reveals from both of the twin primarchs' POV chapters that they are unironically committed to destroying Chaos by letting Horus win (but not too easily).

Their status in 40k only really makes sense if both Alpharius and Omegon kicked it and couldn't order their legion to stand down after the gambit failed. I'm starting to believe that really was Omegon that Bobby killed in the Scouring.

>>53106650
he had a one day 40% off sale recently, looks like you got lost in the swarm bro, it happens with all of them at some points when there is just to many emails coming in. I have noticed CC being slower this year than last year for sure

>>53106703
Yeah I heard about that, think I just missed it though lel. Shame. Guess I can leave it til next paycheque and resend the order once he's had the chance to sort through his backlog though. Thanks anon.

>>53106610
Thanks Anon, I appreciate it. We tend to go competitive but my 30k dudes are more for what looks cool. Although it was worth it for the teeth grinding when I got a 4+ FNP against 95% of his Dark Eldar.

>>53106621
1850, which was painful.

>>53106795
he mentioned in my last coms with him that he will be getting a bunch of new stuff at the end of April for new models so fingers crossed he gets through his backlog and advertises the new stuff soon

>>53106838
>a 4+ FNP against 95% of his Dark Eldar.
Heh, poison vs Death Guard... I can't imagine that went well for the DEldar, even in a low points game.

But yeah, against CW/Ynnari eldar that low points doesn't sound nice

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>>53106345
built these guys last night, getting on basing soon
>>53106656
stop using my legion's kits, fuckboi

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>>53107113
Who's bitter now?

>>53107239
>>53107113
Imperial Fist here.

Get a room, you robosexual weirdos

>>53106656
Those look sick anon

>>53107274
go hang out in your bdsm room, you wallfucker

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>>53100609
>>53105452
Ayy, that was my model! (The chain-vents were a joke, the sawspex is real)

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>>53107274
>>53107239
>>53107113
You guys need Chaos
Have you heard about the word of Lorgar?

>>53107401
Absolutely absurd in the best way. I love it.

Where's the chest piece with the chainmail tabard from?

>>53107401
>sawspex
That's some top-tier engineering right there

>>53107401
How do you paint that sweet bronze anon? I love it!

>>53107113
What sort of colour scheme are you going with?
>matte black
>metallic black
>red, green, or blue secondary colour
>FW oily green+purple
I'm always interested in how people do their Xth. There's so much variation.

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>>53107453
this is how I'm going about it, basically the FW scheme but with more metallics going through

How should I equip Dark Angels terminators, both Tartaros and Cataphracti? I guess Tartaros should have as much swords as possible and be used to cut down power armour units so Stasis ammo seems apt, but what about Cataphracti? Combi-weapons alongside power/chaifists to go against heavier stuff such as 2W Terminators and armour?
I'm not sure on the exact list yet, but Terminators and Dreadnoughts of all types are sure to be included. Deathwing, or Firewing if it's tech or robot related, will probably be the rite I'll focus on. I also prefer deep striking drop pods over Land Raiders.

>>53105282
Nope, >>53105282 is right. Dirty men's bathroom.

You know the type, where the piss has been crusting for ages. The kind that has that strong odor the moment the walk in. The kind that makes you want to run a finger over the gold-brown stains and give it a lick because you're curious.

That kind.

Did russ send a watchpack to the word bearers? You never hear about them, so I wonder what could have happened to them. I bet they met lorgar for tea and crumpets and everyone was happy ever after. Yes.

>>53107622
Calas Typhon pls go.

>>53107685
Had the same thought. They likely returned to the legion as daemonic bombs.

>>53107735
>daemonic bombs
Oh those wacky word bearers. What japes they have.

>>53107685
Did any watchpack accomplish literally anything?

>>53105774
How is Mortarion an autist?

All the primarchs could be considered autists I guess.

>>53107830
Its space wolves anon, accomplishment is not in their genes.

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>>53106498

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>>53107113
I use Iron Hand heads for my IW all the time, anon. We're all Iron, brother.

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>>53107113
Iron within, iron without brother!

>>53107401
Dat sawspex, so fitting for a WE, kek

>>53107912
He's being discussed on the internet. How could he not be?

How do you feel about mixing armor patterns? I still have yet to assemble some loyalists but I have nothing except Mark III and Mark IV patterns.

I was tempted just to keep them separate in squads, but I'm also not sure. I don't think I will mix the patterns together on a single model, but I'm still somewhat torn about mixing them in squads.

>>53108249
Mixing them in squads is fine. I would even like to see mixing patterns in single models if you were doing a veteran squad from Istvaan or Calth for example who have been fighting for months and had to replace parts of their armour. Almost everything can be cool if you fluff it correctly

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>>53108249
It's fine.

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>>53108292

>>53108249
I feel just a mix of pure mk 3 & 4 may look a bit dull & weird, but if you vary things up some more it can look good. Say, some mk 3, some mk 3 with parts from a legion upgrade set, some mk 4, and some mk 4 with parts from a legion upgrade set, will probably look like an interesting squad.

>>53097529
>Iron Warriors
Because that's what you would get if you made astartes out of /tg/.

>Space Wolves
Fucking mutated snowflakes with over inflated sense of importance

Dont play HH if you are poor as fuck and buy from Z,his stuff suck and is pure CRAP.
Ccon in so much fucking better and with sales cheaper.
Pillpitt and alpharius are a bit expensive but still fucking good
Vinsen tank are good and cheap

Dont be a dumb for saving 3$ and spend 5 hours to fix Z cancerogenous shit.

Alzo Z let you pay the shipping,thats ridicolous when every fucking recaster free ship over 30$

>>53106534
Archives are your friend. Once you figure it out, you'll feel silly for not realizing it sooner

>>53106540
>based DG anon
>airbrushed ynnaarifag with no basing

Just decimate me.

>>53108303
>>53108292
>been wanting to start assembling my dudes for weeks now but can't start it somehow
>see these
>itbegins.jpg
Got more? Other legions are fine too.

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>>53107830
>space wolves
>accomplishing anything

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>>53108692

>>53108719
>Couldn't kill Magnus or the Thousand Sons.
>Thousand Sons sided with Horus.
>TS went on to join the Siege of Terra and tore down the Palace's psychic fortifications.

>Russ: Mission accomplished

>>53108719
>Russ wanted to talk to Horus
>Ignored pleas to not be a dumb fuck and help protect Terra
>Went to Horus and got his shit kicked so hard the psychic pain manifested throughout the Space Wolves legion as a subconscious boner for wolfing it up to 200%

>>53108719
Most he accomplished was stealing Prospero Wine, fuckin savage

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>it's an everyone shits on the Space Wolves thread

>>53108835
Best kind of thread

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>>53108835
>>53108856
agreed, autistic furry marines

>>53097529
>favorite
Word Bearers
>All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow. I never set out to topple my father's kingdom of lies from a sense of misplaced pride. I never wanted to bleed the species to its marrow, reaving half the galaxy clean of human life in this bitter crusade. I never desired any of this, though I know the reasons for which it must be done. But all I ever wanted was the truth.
>Least
Fucking vikings wannabes, I even prefer ultrasmurfs

>>53108835
So, "a thread".

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My name is NOT Bear XD