Warhammer 40,000 general /40kg/

What happened to the last thread? I go away for an hour and its 404'd

>>53093013
/pol/fest.

>>53093018
It's getting worse, then. Wonderful. What kind of filters should I use?

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MAKE SISTERS GREAT AGAIN!!!

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>>53093013
Angery mods nuked it because of the shitposters

>>53093013
>>53093018
>>53093032
You could help by talking about 40k for once you faggots. Do we think they will use the same type of unit cohesion rules that AoS uses? That tactical toolbox article for AoS makes the movement phase a bleak prospect.

MODS UNIRONICALLY = GODS

>>53093036

I just want plastic Sisters so I can finally build a Sisters army.

>>53093061
>purging an entire fucking thread vs. IP deleting the shitposters = gods
You're retarded

>>53093054
I was asking about filters, faggot. I want to read the 40k posts without drudging through the /pol/ vomit.

>>53093007
If primarchs were female, which one would make the best waifu-material?

>>53093111
The lost primarchs. They didn't got killed, they laid down their weapons and embraced the married life.

>>53093054
There isn't actually a whole lot different about AoS's movement to current 40k's. Units can just close off larger areas of the table because they block enemies from coming within 3" instead of 1" and often come in large blobs, and IIRC the teaser articles have already said the 1" thing isn't changing. I think it's about the only part of the game which isn't getting hit with the Sigmar bat.

>>53093007
Did slaanesh get squatted? I'm mad. I'm going to take the money i wasn't spending on 40k and continue to not spend it on 40k.

>>53093159
No, not at all.

>>53093159
>Did slaanesh get squatted?

No.

>>53093159
not yet but it's going to become obsolete rather soon

>>53093159
No, but it'll go the way of Cadian regiments.

>>53093167
Nope.

So, what are we expecting to see in today's preview? Close combat weapons? More background?

Also, what do the previews mean for your army?

For my orks...
Movement phase: no real change.
Fight phase: chargers striking first is good, pistols shooting in close combat is bad.
Shooting: doesn't change much. Modifiers to shooting might be bad, but we haven't got any confirmation they are in, I think?
Weapons: not much change. Getting 6+ against bolters is OK, but hardly enough to keep units like stormboyz and burnaz alive. Assuming AP 4 becomes AP -1 we mostly miss out on the best change, although lootas and dakkajets might get better. Curious about how burna bombs and skorcha missiles will perform... auto hits and AP -1 would be nice.
Psychic phase: at least we've got the generic Smite power guaranteed. Everything else seems to depend on specifics we haven't seen yet. At least one of the top power builds seems to have been crippled, so I guess that effectively bumps us up in relative power level? Although I think we were fairly capable of summoning spam ourselves, so long as we didn't mind playing half our army as daemons.
New background: big warp rift means little, but armageddon getting some focus is good. Hopefully we are more than a sideshow for imperials vs. chaos there.

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>>53093159
Slaanesh isn't being squatted, but will continue to receive very few new models or rules updates while GW pumps out endless Khorne and Nurgle releases.

>>53093176
Be fucking everywhere?

>>53093182
Fulgrim and EC out in the next 6 months.

>>53093180
What's with numales and wearing those head things? It's very feminine.

>>53093198
>Head things

Hats? Or is that some weird hat I don't know about?

>>53093198
>What's with numales and wearing those head things?
>It's very feminine.
Also that's a girl.

>>53093198
It's to cover up their receding hairlines. As the picture clearly evidences it doesn't really do a good job at it.

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>>53093178
>Marines
>Movement
Nothing substantial yet, possibly moving 1" faster than other infantry
>Fight
Charger striking first is a nerf for the most part, depends on how unwieldy weapons play out.
>Shooting
Boltguns lose their purpose, things that used to not effect power armour now reduce it but in return is apparently the guarantee of a 2+ save in cover and a 6+ against Lascannons.
>Psychic
I don't really know, having never run conclave I can't really say what has changed.
>Background
My marines from 4th edition continue to get smaller it seems.
I don't know what I want to do with my Guard army so I haven't thought about it for 8th.

>>53093182
Didn't tzeentch get a shitload of stuff over the last year? And there hasn't been much nurgle for some time (although death guard are coming soon).

I'm pretty sure that Fulgrim will get a model at the very least (given that he's mentioned in the Gathering Storm) and I'd be surprised if they don't release something to go with him (thousand sons got five boxes, right?). Probably after Mortarion (with the death guard) and Angron (whenever they shift focus to armageddon) though.

>>53093198
Copying black rappers again.

>>53093226
TSons got Magnus, new Ahriman, new Rubrics, Exalted Sorcs, Scarab Occults and Tzaangors. So 6 boxes.

Do we know what command points are used for yet? Are the a replenishing resource? Do the different factions have different ways to use them?

>>53093268
You spend one once every turn to win the game

>>53093232
Hope Slaanesh gets new stuff too. I would kill for plastic noise marines

>>53093177
yep; no daemon of slaanesh will ever be created anymore apart fulgrim

I am new and i was thinking of running an ordo xeno list. I am not quite sure how to tackle it. Should i run imperial guard or scions? Is a death watch unit worth it?. Also i was thinking of running jakeros/servos with a very shooty inquisitor. Is that any good? Any help would be nice.

>>53093300
Nope.

>>53093268
Don't replenish.
Max 1 per phase for some sort of bonus. Examples given have been rerolls to things and interrupting the combat order.
Faction specific abilities have been mentioned.

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>>53093178
The big thing in the Movement Phase for assault armies is units that you've charged being able to walk out of combat. You'll get shot in their turn, but you'll get more charges!

>>53093358
>You'll get shot in their turn, but you'll get more charges!

you're not making sense
how can people charge if they get shot?

>>53093358
>units charged walk about of battle.
On their turn...Provided they survived that long.
>You'll get shot.
Only if you didn't use your pile in move to tie up everything else because the guys breaking from combat can only run they can't shoot.

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>>53093036
We can make chaos SoB and get turbo squated!

I want funny 40k back. At least there is one funny scene in the entire GS book.

I'm at Warhammer World now, i have a xenos and a imperial army, what's the Meta for chaos.

>>53093386
I want Chaos Sister just because I think having them would be a cool addition to my army and a cool way to show other sides of the chaos gods.

>>53093379
>Only if you didn't use your pile in move to tie up everything

>3" towards the closest enemy
>tieing up everything

>>53093398
In 7th; Good.
In 8th So far looking pretty good.

>>53093386
Slaanesh is old and used, Genestealer breeders are the new hotness.

>>53093040
Was the GSCB discussion actually resurfaced or is that image just a general angstmeme now?

>>53093414
Never played with chaos forces before, what should I look at grabbing before I go home?

>>53093407
You have a 1 inch melee range as well.
Getting 2 or 3 units in gunline wouldn't be unfeasible, which is the situation you need to pull it off the most.

>>53093407
If you can't bother to figure out how to get your dudes within 1" of the units around the unit your charging so they get dragged into combat, or how to consolidate into a new target so they can't overwatch you my friend are a idjit.

>>53093434
No it's just a shitpost laughing at the fact that it was a janitor who did the nuking during the GSCB incident.

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>>53093422
why not a slaanesh worshipping hybrid breeder?

>>53093407
Might be from the same fags that said every game must have ever squad autisticslly 2" spacing to prevent the overwhelming power of blast and templates.

Like it was even possible in a proper table with terrain. It was usually a desicions between having cover or spreading out to prevent a blast hit.

They are just bitchy because they have to move their models in a wargame

>>53093436
Either the get started collecting, Chaos. Or a Chaos Codex and then plan out from there. Do you want a biker lord? What Legion do you want to do? Any Specific Chaos God? Chaos is basically 5 factions in one.

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>>53093469
>Chaos is basically 5 factions in one.
Thousand Sons, Emperor's Children, World Eaters, Death Guard and the irrelevant niggers that are just there for the sake of being edgy.

>RIP reason to take full platoons of infantry
>RIP reason to take shuriken weapons on jetbikes
>RIP the green tide
>RIP chaos foreverboons

Goodbye formations.
Mostly full of shit but sometimes making shit adequate.

>>53093434
Basically a mod trigger by underboobs.

They forgot /tg/ is /d/ light, like GW forgot 40k is suppose to be s joke.

>>53093489
The Iron Warriors? I don't see them that way...They seem there to be Evil Vehicles.

>>53093469
I'm thinking CSM nurgle. I have a decent painting pattern for them. And I can't see the point in grabbing the Codex right now seeing at 8th is abkut to come out.

>>53093444
are you really expecting the enemy to conveniently place his units close enough to get tied up by a consolidation movement of 3"?

with what kind of retards do you play?

>>53093509
Iron Warriors are in the extra edgy compartment of that last minifaction.

>>53093509
What part of irrelevant you didn't understand. You are the NPC of chaos.

With love even if I still have nightmares from that basilisk and lash from a decade ago.

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>>53093518
Okay CSM Nurgle.
Do you want the termie lord? If yes I'd get the Start Collecting box. Good value for you, and hold off on plague marines since those seem to be coming out in 8th.

Otherwise I'd buy a Lord, and a few boxes of CSM. which is a good starting point. Gives you a basic valid army, or 1 Lord, 1 box CSM, and 1 heavy support of your choice. That gives you the Patrol FOC from the preview yesterday.

>>53093538
>when the patriarch gives you that extra nutt

>>53093498
>A reason not to infiltrate stealth suits

>>53093543
I'll go take a look at it in a bit after our game, blood angels & deathwatch vs Eldar & harlequins vs Astra Millitarum and Tempestus/knight

>>53093551
You reminded me that SoB formations where locked in apocalypse. When Impirial Copy Paste Agents show up, they didn't put them there.

Such a bad book.

>>53093538
Cock tongue.

>>53093498
>A reason to take full platoons of infantry
>A reason to take the Green Tide
>Everything else unconfirmed.
You realize full platoons will get a Moral bonus right? You also realize they let you take more special and heavy weapons and give those special, heavy weapons and sergeants ablative wounds right?

The Green tide is going to be so over filled with command points they won't know what to do with them all and will probably have some left over at the end of the game, you realize that right?

The reason to take shrunken weapons on jet bikes is so you can afford more jet bikes so you have the ablative wounds for the special weapons to survive long enough to get into combat because this edition shit dies. You will be interacting with stuff. No more nothing dies a whole turn. You dudes will little the battlefield with their dead and so will the other poor bastards. The winner will be the one who didn't die for their cause but a lot of your poor bastards will be.

>>53093596
Good luck. Post pics.

>>53093611
Just the way Slaanesh likes it.

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>>53093628
So far, my aquila kill team and the corvus they flew in on ain't turnt up.

>>53093617
Sounds like you never played Guard

>>53093700
Only against guard. Never with.

>>53093726
Were you going to bring up how a full platoon of guard can wipe out CSM and CSM Terminators with their flashlights? Because yes. I've faced that quite often. Gun line guard is damned potent and quite scary.

>>53093680
Looking great! I'd probably put a black wash over the guns to add a bit of shade, they're looking pretty bright.
>>53093379
Maybe the unit that escaped can't shoot, but other units, with long range weapons (heavy weapons, snipers, tanks, flyers) can make a dent in your squad.
Any survivors can then get an extra charge. For Orks, this might mean they get more use out of furious charge.

>>53093726
Long story short the compulsory parts of an infantry platoon is a cmd squad and two infantry units (although infantry can be merged)
Special weapons teams, heavy weapons teams and conscripts are all additional squads purchased in the same slot.

When the universal FOC of 8th comes in it means platoons will once again be dead as they'll basically go back to being a minimum tax in order to get maximum conscripts.
And nobody got the cash for that.

Genestealers should be able to ally of convenience with any imperial force.

>>53093819
Hahahahahahaha

No.

>>53093823
In the lore IF have worked all to happy with IW.

Maybe it was BT, but all marines look the same so it gets confusing.

Everyone should be battle brothers since it happens in the lore, and it would be funny to have marines with Nid support.

>>53093819
Do you mean keyword?

40k 8E > Age of Sigmar >>>>> pile of shit >>> 7E > WHFB

>>53093819
You're stupid and should consider getting your IQ tested

>>53093858
Retard the post.

3rd>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Everything else.

>>53093823
>The Grey Knights latest group of initiates are the most promising yet, with an unwavering dedication and incorruptibility of purpose which will be sure to aid them against the daemon.
>Preliminary training has revealed that they are already a formidable psychic choir, seemingly able to blend their powers as easily as the senior purifiers.
>A few showed possible stigmata of the mutant, however after assimilation with holy geneseed, they are nothing more than perfect space marines.

>>53093875
Age of 4thmar = 8th.

>>53093178
IG
>Moving
Never heard of it! :P But really It means my Chimera's guns will be more effective, and if the vets inside can still shoot then mecvets will be very happy this edition.
>Shooting
Nothing really changed for the blob army, but the tanks truly need a BS buff if they want to move now. Hopefully, the Techpriest's "Awaken the machine" ability will do something to boost BS. On that same note, "Blessings of the Omnissaih" is going to be vital to this edition and I wonder if/how servitors will help in that.
>Fighting
I'm just going to leave thank you very much! Say, have you met my friend Mr. Punisher-with-three-HBs?
>Psychic phase
I wonder if smite can hit opponents in combat. Either way, psykers covens will either be a 5-wound single psyker, or 5 psykers who can together cast 5D3 mortal wounds. I REALLY hope they can fire into combat if that's true.

>>53093801
Aren't conscripts worse guard? Why would I choose them over normal guard? Other than the advantage of numbers they are BS2 WS2 right? So likely 5+,5+ in the upcoming edition. or worse they could be 6+,6+ I doubt units that cheap won't have drawbacks.

So other than body count why would I chose conscripts over more reliable guard?

>>53093875
3rd is fucking gay, why else do you think so many of the changes from 2nd to 3rd are now being reverted?

>>53093111
Lioness... you can take pictures of her butt while she is sleeping.

>>53093877
>>A few showed possible stigmata of the mutant

Any self respecting space marine chapter, especially the GK, kills any and all recruits that show the slightest genetic deviation on the spot. They do heavy genetic screening for a damn good reason.

>>53093896
> Needing a reason beyond bodycount

>>53093897
But anon Shadow war is closer to second than AoS. Right now 8th looks like AoS second edition.

Wait is GW plan just to have one massive game?

>>53093111
Sanguiniusa, Totally supportive, believes in you, tries to help you through your hard times. I mean that was him as a dude, imagine him feminine. Just add "Oh yeah and if anyone hurts you...the Arbites will have to use DNA to identify the body."

>>53093159
We know Slaanesh Demons are going to attack after charges, and before the normal combat back and forth...so...no we aren't getting squatted we are getting buffed it seems.

>>53093929
of course, next set of novels has the imperium charging into the Warp Rift and finding themselves in AoS

>>53093111
Magna the Red, get into some real trippy stuff

>>53093924
If all I cared about was body count I would be taking an army of heralds and nothing but Daemonetts. Body count isn't everything it's living long enough to count for something.

Did the dark angels have the deathwing and ravenwing pre-heresy? or were the formed after the split?

>>53093796
Welp, my venerable dread just got rear armour popped via vanquisher cannon, feels good man.

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new article is up
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/06/new-warhammer-40000-war-zone-cadia-may6gw-homepage-post-4/
>Cadia may have broken; the Guard, have not.

>>53094082
And superheavy/gargant info tomorrow
GET HYPE

>>53094082

>There are whispers in Imperial Sector Command of the possibility of retaliatory strikes, of claiming back some territory lost in the recent war, and even of reclaiming the ruins of Cadia herself.

SOON
O
O
N

>>53094082
>ruins of Cadia
Wasn't it shattered in half?

>>53094082
>Many warbands of Traitor Legionaries and renegades, some in direct disregard of the Despoiler’s orders, used the opportunity to bypass the defenders of the Gate entirely and launch their attacks on more vulnerable worlds elsewhere in the galaxy.

>in direct disregard of Abaddon's orders

Failbaddon does it again!

>>53094158
they'll juet staple it back together

>>53094168
aah, silly me.

Will new Ed save my beloved Tyranids?

>>53093680
Just here to say that terrain looks really nice. Actually looks like sandstone with that rough look on it.

>>53093968
> Conscripts are just as hard to kill as Guardsmen.
> Significantly cheaper
> Can be taken in huge squads, meaning more guys can benefit from an order or Commisar.

They're for 2 things. Holding the line (meatshields for expensive dudes) or a brave charge into the enemy lines (moving meatshields).
They aren't complicated, but they have their place.

>>53094158
Well, the two halves could orbit each other and share atmosphere. That could make for a cool setting actually.

>>53094192
It'll turn them into an Imperial Agents equivalent for GSC

>>53094082
>more gathering storm wank
Oh look it's fucking nothing

On the other hand, will tomorrow be Gargantuan Creatures, Superheavy Vehicles or both?

>>53094296
They're the same thing now, like mcs and vehicles.

>>53094296
Lords of War I'm guessing

And the update actually told us some shit. Mainly that the Black Crusade is imploding.

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>>53093455

>>53094166
To be fair the same shit happened with Horus at the siege of Terra. Trying to control Chaos is a waste of time.

>>53094296
Hah! Facing!
Well meme'd sir.

>>53093896
Vets: 6ppm, BS4
Stds: 5ppm, BS3
Csrpt: 3ppm, BS2

Best value for money.
If you wanted to hit what you were aiming at, you'd take mounted Veterans.

>>53094391
How do you know veterans and standard guardsmen aren't 5pmm and 4pmm respectively but you have to pay for a mandatory 10 point sargent upgrade?

Fuck it, I'm picking up a burning of prospero box and making my Fallen, with any luck they'll be ready for the 8th edition launch campaigns

>>53093917
But anon mutants are caused by corruption and these recruits are incorruptible, plus the screenings came back completely fine.
Zero warp taint on them anywhere.
The small eyes and big heads must just be due to the industrial conditions of their home cities.

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>>53094420
>same
>diff

So, they seem to be downplaying the chaos victory at cadia quite a bit. I guess they have got a lot of angry letters from guard players or something.

>>53094158
They can probably occupy the new asteroid belt and/or the smaller planets which will inevitably form from a huge pile of rocks floating close together in space.

>>53094107
>>53094296
Iirc one of the earliest updates said that there aren't Gargantuan Creatures and Superheavy anymore, they would just be Monstrous Creatures and Vehicles with a ton of power/armor/wounds

So I suppose tomorrow they'll show how Monstrous Creatures work with the AoS's system of losing strength as they lose wounds, maybe with the stats for one of the Tyranids monsters (since they are the most famous ones)

>>53094468
>still gonna be fucking invincible gamechangers which make all smaller points-equivalent units into cucks

>>53094461
Well there wasn't much else GW could do now that they're trying to 'advance the setting' but still keep it one minute before midnight. If Abbadon still had his united forces (warbands instantly splitting off is dumb btw, after GW spend so long glorifying Abby with how he was even more capable of uniting the traitor forces than Horus) now with huge numbers of daemonic reinforcements added, he could have smashed his way through to Terra in no time for the final showdow.

In other words : GW should have realized that 40k was a setting, not a story, and that advancing it was a stupid idea. And on top of that the new fluff so far is boring, uninspired, and unoriginal. Guess GW can't exist without shooting itself in the kneecaps constantly.

>>53094516
We'll have to wait and see

As far as I've seen they aren't really that strong a unit (for the most part) in AoS

>>53094468
>inb4 it's the stats of the tau riptide
>it's nerfed significantly while having 1.5x the points cost
>cue the crying of taufags everywhere and the eternal laughter of everyone else.

>>53094516
But hopefully cost so many points that the opponent can field enough guardsmen to bring it down with lasguns.

>>53093877
>>53094430
>Rites of initiation
>Mindwipe
>Psychoindoctrination
>Shall know no fear

So... they become standard grey knights and spend the rest of their short lives as the hammer of the emperor.

>850 point tourney, play AdMech
>play against DAngels
>lose 100 points of Skitarii to 1 heavy flamer
>lose 1 Kataphron, the rest runs 12" off the table
>play against Tau
>Riptide and Ghostkeel
>lose 250 points turn 1
>hits on 2+, hits on 2+, hits on 2+, saves on 2+
>play against Space Marines
>Iron Hands deathstar
>lose 100 points of Skitarii to 1 Land Speeder and 1 Kataphron unit to an Orbital direct hit turn 1 because Initiative was seized
>deal a whopping 3 wounds to the rest of his army because "lol jinking" and "lol 2+/3++/3+++ T5"

Boy I can't wait for 8e.

>>53094596
>3+ FNP
As a DA player please tell me how to obtain this, the best I can do is 2+/3++/5+++

so custodes should be rocking the sword+shield and a vexilla right? That would equal 21 attacks or am I off?

>>53094566
>Riptide no longer has AP 2 melee attacks for no reason
>Tau BTFO

>>53094617
Iron Hands+Apoc+some item

>>53094624
Wait for 8th.

>>53094640
Ah fuck, it's Smashfucker. No wonder.

>>53094624
Aren't the spears better, for that sweet AP 2 on initiative ?

>heug swords of hugeness
>king amongst blades
>same stats as powersword

>>53094617
Medusa Strike Force fuckery

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>>53094579
>JUST AS PLANNED

>>53094617
He was playing Iron Hands, so it was most likely Smashfucker
A ridiculously expensive Chapter Master that is made almost indestructible by being on a bike and having a particular Iron Hand relic that makes you have a group of special rules like Eternal Warrior. More special rules for every more wound you have left

>>53094635
>Fire warriors hitting on 4's.
>Everyone else BTFO

>>53094651
I was thinking about survivability as well with the shields, and yeah lol their swords are just as strong as their daggers

>>53094683
>you mean 6's

Guise when are we going to get a proper 1st person battlefield format shooter in a 40k setting, EC sucks

>>53094699
>but Markerlights can now br used to Blind the enemy in melee on a 2+

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Bring back squats!

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TIL grey knights are repurposed GSC's.

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>>53094082

>cadia was destroyed and the warp rifts engulfed the system
>just kidding, we're gonna let you retake the place

wat is going on?

>>53094748
They are in AoS, and the games seem to end up being pretty similar with the arrival of 8th edition

I really hope they show us some of the most iconic "big stuff" creatures and vehicles tomorrow. Would love to see Carnifex and Land Raider stats.

Who Am I kidding, it's going to be a Knight and a Riptide.

>>53094560
>All units 4+ to wound
V
>Needing exploded dice to wound

>>53093111
Dornessa. You know she's into fisting.

>>53094082
>Cadia is destroyed and consumed by the Eye
>lol jk, we just said that FOR DRAMA. Don't worry, Robbyman will also rebuild the Pylons with the help of Ynnead through the Yvraine.

>>53094006
For the most part the they didn't come around until the post legion switch and they had to assign specific roles to each company
The framework for both subsets were established during the heresy but most of the marines in them were just veteran bikers or terminators

>>53094166
>This has left huge numbers of Imperial defenders deployed around Cadia awaiting a coordinated Chaos second wave that may never come.
Amy the armless BTFO

>>53094166
When Abbadon's plans fall apart, it's rarely because he actually lost, it's almost always portrayed as, "Chaos decided to WILD CARD BITCHES Abaddon. If only they had listened to him! Oh Well!"

Ok guys, what's the single army you would never ever want to collect or play even if you had all the money in the world and the painting skills to rival Duncan?

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>>53094734

Who do you think should feature?

>>53094748
They have no role in 40k, the whole concept of dwarves revolved around advanced technology and heavy infantry which works in a setting where you have a technologically relatively advanced steampunk faction over more medieval forces like in fantasy. With space marines and eldar around, they just end up being mediocre manlets better off as dead or at best as engineers for the Empire.

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>>53094850

fuckin' nids man boring as fuck ugly as fuck not important in the lore can you suffer a worse fate in this game?

>>53094082
This is beyond awful. I cannot deal with this spineless flip flopping. GW is bending back over itself to appease the Imperialfags again.

>>53094850
Necrons

>>53094757
>wat is going on?
something that should teach people to not take literally everything that's said about chaos

>Still no new lore or news about the Tyranids

*Angry space bug noises*

>>53093076
I'd help.. but my filter list i so long it'll hit the text limit three times.

>>53094850
The vagina-faced smurf kind of army.

>>53094888
>literally everything that's said about chaos

What does this have to do with anything. It wasn't Chaos that said it and it wasn't said about Chaos.

What was said is about Cadia. About it being ripped in half and being dragged into the expanding Eye of Terror where it's undergoing the process of becoming a daemon world.

What we take from this is Imperialfags are babies. They just cannot take a L despite the L being written in way that sucks their dicks.

>>53093680
>>53094237

I concur, terrain is great.

I like how every single 'lore teaser' was stuff we already knew.

>>53094850
seriously tau i just despise their aesthetic and shitty fluff

>>53094850
Eldar. They'er the biggest Mary Sues in a game full of Mary Sues. They've been overpowered in 5 of the past 6 editions. The players are largely whiny twats who think their already ridiculously broken wankfest of a codex needs to be more powerful.

Fuck Eldar, and fuck everyone who's ever played Eldar.

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>>53094896
We lunch for baal brooder

>>53094865
Squats have better technology than the Admech though, their exo-suits were far better than terminator armour, and the sturdiness and stubborness of the average squat meant that they were very fine capable soldiers. Squats were T4, remember thats, thats really important when comparing it to a puny guardsmen.
They got removed because the writers didnt know what to do with them, they didnt sell well, and they were goofy. I like them a lot, and I understand their gone, Id always wanted to collect old squat models and just add them to my guardsmen as mercenaries and memories. Only got 1 guy so far, but i dont think he'll be the last

>>53094082
RIP any chance of new guard models.

>>53094912
>About it being ripped in half and being dragged into the expanding Eye of Terror where it's undergoing the process of becoming a daemon world.

>nothing to do about chaos

ok

>>53094850
There is really no army I wouldn't play if given the money to do it, at least for a while
But I suppose that the ones I would stop play the earliest would be some varieties of Space Marines, like the Imperial Fists, and Necrons

>>53094992
It's about the fate of the planet, okay?

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What are all the new Guilliman fanboys gonna do when Fulgrim comes back and finishes what he started?

>>53094740
>2+
Pointing a laser pointer into someone's eyes isn't that easy anon.

>>53094989
steel legion of armageddon will be the new hotness

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>another day, another fluff article
>Tyranids still MIA

>>53095009
by the hands of chaos

which is poetically described in one way to wank chaos while still portrayed in the setting in another meaning the first was just that: pottery

>>53095023
>Implying there are Gorillaman fanboys outside of GW

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>>53095023
call booty's waifu to kill slaanesh

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>>53095040

>tyranids

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>>53095023
>Fulgrim

>>53095045
>pottery

Or not. \there was no pottery. It was all matter of fact speech.

So what's going to happen?

1) The Imperials are going invade the Eye of Terror and liberate daemon Cadia. That is dumb.

or

2) They retconned Fall of Cadia ending

Either way, it proves that Imperialfags are cancer on the setting. Can't have anything good!

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>>53095055
>Not knowing Ynead is Slaanesh
Lmfao I know Tzeentch said its work great but I didnt know itd work this great. Now all of you give your souls to that croneworld witch who totally isnt summoning keepers of secrets.

>>53095075

Wiping out the Cadian Gate wasn't good.

>>53095075
sure thing, carnac, it's all imperials' fault if everytime chaos does something it's so bad it has to get changed bit after bit

it totally has nothing to do with how everything chaos does is detrimental to the settings

>>53094263
I would like that if they go all over the top and have these great spaceports to connect the two halves, only the Cadians have only seized control of one half so have to constantly launch assaults and repel them from the BL-held half.

>>53095082
Having a bit of story progressing is good. Cadia for 25 fucking real years was being besieged by Chaos. Let it fall already without any bullshit but nooooo.

Lets be cowards and appease the cancer.

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>>53095070
This is now a Fulgrim thread, please post artwork of the greatest primarch left alive.

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>>53095047
tg stands for Guilly after he made Eldar and Imperium friends.
>>53095103
Fuck off.

>>53095077
>implying keeper of secrets will ever get a new model

I'm not saying that ynnead is not not!slaanesh
but it's not slaanesh and the emperor's children will become orphans

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>>53095077
That is, until Chegorag arrives out of nowhere and start summoning High Avatars of the Laughing God out of his top hat fucking up Slaanesh and all the other Chaos Gods, before running away with the Looney Tunes credit music in background

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>>53095113
Friendly reminded that Fulgrim is the galaxy's residing expert on Primarchs and how to kill them.

>>53094850
Maybe Skitarii. Out of everything I really just don't like their range. Most other armies I can clearly pick out what I would want to play.

>>53095092
>sure thing, carnac, it's all imperials' fault if everytime chaos does something it's so bad it has to get changed bit after bit

It's exactly the same bullshit they pulled in EoT. Writing a Chaos major victory then gradually downplaying it to a minor victory and then what seems to a draw. AND THEN writing it out the setting entirely.

GW's fear of angering the Imperial fanbase holds the setting back from any good storytelling.

>it totally has nothing to do with how everything chaos does is detrimental to the settings

Detrimental how? Reordering and redrawing the galaxy canvas into a more interesting place?

I am absolutely livid. What fucking bullshit are they gonna shove next in 8th ED? I am so hyped!

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>>53094082
>Hyperlinks in article redirect us to CSM Start Collecting and SM Start Collecting
>IG link is redirecting to Cadian Armoured Fist box instead of Start Collecting
Maybe they will make a new IG Start Collecting with some Militarum Tempestus units?

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>>53095133
>Not knowing Chegoragh is Tzeentch
I bet that made him laugh.
Get it?

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>>53095140
Except his murder count is down, same with his sexual power.

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>>53094082

>IG are getting squatted for 8th
>IG fans have enough clout to get GW to recton the first Gathering Storm book

Would you idiots make up your minds

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>>53095140
>Avert your gaze! You dare turn such repulsive faces in my direction?

Swigvald is cooler than Fulgrim.

>Trading your perfect physique for a serpentine daemon prince form
Do you even know how to be handsome?

>>53095161
Well, it would totally be in character for Tzeentch to fuck himself up

and that's one of the reasons he went from my most favorite chaos god to being second to last

>>53095160

Why would they do that when Militarum Tempestus already have their own SC! set, stupid idiot?

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>>53095113
What's wrong Girlyman? still mad about about the coma or that your Codex Astartes helped lead to the Imperium's downfall?

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>>53095164
Two Primarch kills is more than anyone else, even the emperor and Horus. Itll be three after he kills Guilliman again. This is the guy who strangled an avatar to death with his bare hands. Really, Guilliman doesnt stand a chance and never did- just like Ferrus.

>>53094107
>GET HYPE
No.

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>>53095148
>Detrimental how? Reordering and redrawing the galaxy canvas into a more interesting place?
removing a warzone didn't change jackshit, the situation would move and restart somewhere else
now the situation moved and at the same time we have an active warzone

chaos is detrimental because less is not more

cry more carnac, a new status quo is coming and the episodic nature of the setting will see chaos job and achieve only sidequests at every opportunity

so as of yet, theres no possibility for a drop pod army? barring any fancy faction specific rules?

>>53095307
Drop pods are gonna get squatted.

>>53095307
Even now you can field a drop pod army, just give them all dedicated transports.

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>>53094896
Oh my, you seem... upset

TYRANID LORE WHEN

>>53095160
Or replacing the cadians with steel legion. Or the LR with a new tank.

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>>53095182
I like Tzeentch, he's a pretty cool guy. He is a bit of a clown though.

Least favorite is nurgle cause hes gross.

>>53095335
>These are mindless extragalactic bugs that eat everything and adapt
Theres your lore.
All of it.

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>>53095223
Slaanesh is destined to die whore.

>>53095264
>This is the guy who strangled an avatar to death with his bare hands
A feat that mere Ultramarine chapter master can pull off, let alone primarch. Guilliman can kill strongest bloothirsters who are more powerful than faggot slaaneshi daemons.

>>53095291
>the situation would move and restart somewhere else

Which would have been fine. Revisiting the same warzone is CANCEROUS. It brings nothing new and ruins the previous stories. Give us a new front that's not fucking Cadia and the same shitty systems and planets that we are sick to death of.

>chaos is detrimental because less is not more

Chaos gives more in plothooks and progress.

>the episodic nature of the setting will see chaos job and achieve only sidequests at every opportunity

I still have team Necron and Tau. And Illic <3. They cannot possibly ruin their stories as much as they did the Cadian storyline.

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>>53094082
CHAOSFAGS STATUS:

BTFO
T
F
O

>>53095346
Where are we, who are we eating, any new adaptations?

Are there any confirmed people with the title Auditorii Imperator besides Hector Rex and (presumably) Alicia Dominica?

>>53094850
chaos

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>>53095352
Slaanesh is destined to consume all the other gods in the universe and save us from the Ctan. Its all part of the Old Ones plan, silly.

Are you ready to join your eldar friends and feed she who thirsts? Fulgrim will present Guillimans head as a gift to chaos just like he did Ferrus's, hes not gonna have mercy on your this time.

Man, I want more AdMech HQs and characters. Cawl is way too expensive and cheese to bring regularly.

>>53095386
Milky way.
Everyone else.
Maybe but only if youll buy the new models when we release them.

>>53095392
Jaq Draco, Guilliman.

>>53095291
>>53095148
Remember the wailing and gnashing of teeth from Imperial players after the Eye of Terror worldwide campaign over a decade ago when the Forces of Disorder actually won? Conspiracy theories sprouted about how the non-Imperials "cheated" or were helped by GW, and then there were some players that simply outright refused to accept the results or tried to argue how the loss was really a win, or at worst a stalemate (despite the black and white in print results in WD by GW declaring the victory for Disorder). And yet there was none of this protesting over every single other worldwide campaign where the Imperium was the declared winner.

The problem right now is all the background fluff and novels have followed the template of initial Chaos/Xenos victories followed by the heroic Space Marines saving the day in the end. Do the opposite, and you will have accusations of the Imperium being the designated punching bag. Follow the template, and we have the issue of the non-Imperial factions being not seen as a real threat, and the expectation that the Imperium is always supposed to win. All the wailing over the Eye of Terror campaign I think stemmed from this inbuilt expectation of inevitable Imperial victory, and then getting a rude awakening.

The solution? I think GW needs to be more even handed in its focus on all the factions so that all factions can have significant victories, not just a one line mention of newly invented random planet being taken. The problem is increasingly GW seems to be vague and impressionistic in their descriptions of battles or even entire campaigns. GW now avoids giving numbers, dates, or other hard data. More and more now it just seems their battles devolve into skirmishes describing unit type A taking out enemy unit B and then enemy unit C taking out unit A, until the special characters move along the plot. The universe as a whole just feels smaller as now it seems only the big special characters matter at all.

>>53095377
Shut up.

You are an orphan now and nobody likes orphans.

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>>53094082
>GW using the same line /tg/ did when the first gathering storm came out

>>53095448
Would Primarchs get the title Auditorii Imperator? Surely that's explicit under the the mantle of Primarch.

>>53095271
Si

>>53094082
>even that fucking phyrric victory is retconned to appease imperialfags
This is Eye of Terror all over again.

>>53095449
>The universe as a whole just feels smaller as now it seems only the big special characters matter at all.
Well yeah, that was always going to be a side effect of the people who wanted the "setting's plot" to move. As soon you as you have a moving plot, you need characters to drive it. Though, to be honest, it hasn't seemed like there was enough "your dudes" creative types left in the 40k fandom to cause too much of a ruckus over the shift for a while now.

>>53095449
To be fair to GW, losing Cadia was a step in the right direction. The problem isn't gone of course, but shattering an emblematic Fortress World at least shows that sometimes the Imperium can't stop bad shit from happening.

>>53095495
phyrric victories are all they get, so they appreciate them.

>>53094850
Tyranids, nothing about them seems interesting to me and their models aren't very appealing in my opinion

>>53095540
>Imperium can't stop bad shit from happening.

It can rewind time and undo everything and bring us back to zero. Like they did with Damnos.

Girlyman and co have the Eye of Night and the hand of Darkness. Things they want to use to push back the Eye of Terror and Great Rift.

So Cadia will be brought back to real space. the Imperials will take it back and tape it back together and then Yvarine will have her Necron allies place Pylons on it.

We are back on square one.

>>53095495
It still fucking happened. So what if they take back chunks of Cadia?

No pylons, no stopping the warp storms. Imperium still split in two.

It's a shitty symbolic victory if they do manage it, not a retcon.

Do you even know what that means?

>>53094850
Orks, Tyranids. Both are bland and flavorless to me.

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>>53095411
You must be so high on warp dust you could explode into warp rift, someone give this man swift Emperor's mercy.

>>53095361
>is CANCEROUS
>ruins previous stories
>sick to death of

but fall of cadia was written like shit, there's nothing to ruin and the cadian system has a lot of potential to explore
you're sick of it only because you're biased towards chaos

any single interesting plot progression chaos can offer can be and is in fact being achieved without chaos being completely victorious, from the horus heresy to the end times, to fenris and now cadia, the only interesting parts are where chaos doesn't win

>implyong necrons aren't to the blood angels what the ynnari are to the ultramarines
>implying tau will ever be relevant
>implying anyone at gw remembers or cares enough about illic to not make it die and get forgotten during the ynnari story arc

>>53094850
Orks

>>53094967
It seriously is time for
Eldar to be shit for a while.

>>53095582
You're just inventing things to be mad about now.

>>53095528
Having characters drive the story is one thing, completely neglecting everything else just to wank Guilliman and his girlfriend beating the evil Abbadon and the Daemon Primarchs is entirely another. Siege of Vraks, Sabat Worlds Crusade and Badab War were examples of competently-written campagins by FW with zero mary sue bullshit like in Gathering Storm.

>>53095591
>no stopping the warp storms

http://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/audio-subscription.html

Girlyman is working on way to stop it and you know he will succeed and I know not why I bother with 40K anymore.

AoS seems to be a more balanced setting where Order and Chaos are equally presented and portrayed.

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>>53094082
AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>53095582
Well square one plus a Primarch.

As the pylons reactivate, the Great Rift withdraws, and soon the galaxy is back under the righteous hand of the Emperor. As Cadia is refortified and recolonized by its once-orphans, Fulgrim appears and slashes his throat. The Ultramarines cry out in terror, but manage to get him into a stasis field before his death, shipping him back to Macragge. Ynnead is so shocked by this development, he abandons hope and disappears, and the Ynnari disband as Yvraine kills herself. Cawl follows suit for his failure. None of the other Primarchs return as the Planet of Sorcerors is sucked back into the warp by the closing Great Gift. Calgar is declared Chapter Master once more.

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>>53095608
Tell me Guilliman, what does death feel like?

>>53095614
oh and also genestealers
even straight up Tyranids sound better to me

>>53095075

>Chaos's big dick is now flopping over the entire galaxy
>Chaosfags still not satisfied

What more do you want?

>>53095625
Why the fuck would they do all this just to take it away less than a year later?

>>53095618
See
>>53095625

Gathering Storm 3 had Yvarine calling her Eldar kin to ally with the Necrons.

The new audiobook series about GS has Girlyman ordering/asking Yvarine and Greyfax to gather the two relics that can be used to stop the Great Rift and push it back.

>>53095641
>killing off our boy cawl
no bueno

>>53095654
Well they won't succeed.

>>53095649
I am not satisfied because that dick will go flaccid before it blows its load.

>>53095672

Your faction can't win all the time. Just accept it. If Imperial players can suck up constant jobbing to Tau, you can live with the occasional setback for Chaos.

>>53095591
Cadia is supossed to have exploded you retard. And now they're going to retrieve it and Guilliman will build back the pylons and we'll be back to square one.

The whole of Fall of Cadia was a shitty symbolic victory in the first place because we will only know crushing defeat and phyrric victories so shitty they might as well be a draw from now on, because if the Imperium ever had a clear defeat Timmy and his thousand imperialfag friends would autistically screech in unison.

>>53095680
>If Imperial players can suck up constant jobbing to Tau
We don't really though. We complain about it all the fucking time.

So does the fact that gorks grin exists now mean that this may be a precursor to the introduction of sigmar?!
Also the while cadia broke before the guard is such a faggot thing to say. Even for gw

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>>53095645
Decent when compared to being slave without free will.

>>53094430
>>53093877
You are talking about Grey Knights, one of the best equiped and informed chapters around.
Once they'll do a genetic checkup of the potential recruit, they'll instantly see that there's something wrong going on. Something like, I don't know... oh wait, yes, GENESTEALER TAINT. And then, he'll be killed on the spot.

This is dumb. You are dumb.

>>53095680
>If Imperial players can suck up constant jobbing to Tau,

Have you seen the ending of Mont'ka? The Imperials undid nearly everything did and made their victories ashes in their mouths and IT GOT WORSE. The Firestorm merged with a warpstorm and acquired sentience.

Like the anon below you said. No one gets to have a clear and clean victory over the Imperium in GW books

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>>53095711
>sigmar

>>53095651
They're scared of upsetting the imperialfags.

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>>53095591
>No pylons
The triangle of realspace that characterised the presence of the pylons is still there

in practical terms all chaos managed to do was to move the front from cadia to the rest of the system's planets, doom a bunch of cannon fodder planets with the cicatrix, create warpstorms that can be ignored by any plot shielded character ever and spread its forces so thin guillimam can optimistically launch an offensive crusade instead of preparing on the defence

I can't stop laughing

>>53095683
Oh shit you know all this happens and you're not just pulling it out of your ass? Ruins of Cadia is now a battlefield and the faction that's deciding to fight for it has, and I know this may come as a shock, a goal!

Does it mean that goal will succeed? No. Is Girlyman supposed to start a crusade without and kind of plan? No, that's dumb. Having a plan doesn't mean you're going to succeed. No need to call people retards because they aren't making the same assumptions as you. It might actually be you with the mental problem.

>>53094255
How do you make conscripts? Do you just get normal guard minis and declare them to be crappier?

>>53095747
Yup

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>carnac turbo-butthurt about the cadian gate still existing
music to my ears

Chaos doing well on a setting-wide basis leads to end times shit. The setting is genuinely best served by Abaddon being a worthless Skeletor only of any threat to the planet he's immediately bearing down on, and the gods disinterested faggots more interested in dicking about than destroying reality.

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>>53095747

You can represent it on the model For Cadian models, they are 'White Shields', so you paint some white on the cadian model's armour or helmet.

Other people use converted penal legionnaires

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>>53095713
Imperial lies, you're such a fool. I live in eternal freedom and bliss, you could too if you would accept that our father was a liar who just wanted to use us. I'll mourn you, brother.

>>53094850
Space Marines.
Shitty aesthetics, shitty characters, shitty lore, shitty premise.

Litterally anything else is okay though.

>>53095774
Chaos is always more interesting when it's portrayed as a creeping rot that eats away at things from within, a parasitic force that infiltrates, corrupts, and finally consumes its host. As it is, GW is just using them like they would Orks or Tyranids and demanding we be impressed.

>>53095745
>assumptions
>>53095654
>>53095625

>b-but j-just b-because he has a plan doesn't mean he w-wont s-succeed!
This is fucking Guilliman, Yvraine and Celestine we're talking about. In a GW book. You're being delusional or ignorant of pretty much every past campagin book if you think they won't steamroll everybody. It will succeed flawlessly and we'll be back to square one with Abby screaming 'I'll get you next time!' as he fucks off on Planet Killer back to the Eye of Terror.

>tfw too ugly to play Slaanesh or Eldar

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>>53095782
Being "used" sounds like stuff queers of your kind enjoy.

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>>53095782

Griffiiiiittthhh!

>>53094850
I would collect everything. Sue me.

>>53095826
>Guts is Ferrus Manus
>Griffith is Fulgrim

Now I finally understand.

>>53095813
Yes. When you say a thing is going to happen that hasn't happened, it is an assumption. You might think that you understand things better than other people, but that's just you. When people call other people delusional for disagreeing with their "guys this is 100% going to happen" idea it's usually the faggot with the idea who's delusional.

You don't know as much as you think you do, you can stop pretending to be special now.

>>53095812

Exactly. Chaos is corruption and rot, madness and entropy. Treating it as a DREAD FORCE THAT SHALL DESTROY ALL is missing the point completely.

>>53095812
>>53095774
Here you are sperging about the portrayal of Chaos when the only real problem is that we never fucking win. Sure unifying everything under Abbadon is a bit reductionist, but it wouldn't be nearly as bad if we weren't little more than cartoon villains.

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>>53095768
what a lovely day

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>>53095825

>that blood angel helmet on the right skewered on what you could argue looks vaguely like a tyranid claw

Blood Angels confirmed for squatted

>>53095880
>filename
I like you.

>>53095845
Redpill me on both. Rather, could you kindly tell me their stories? I don't know much about wh40k.

>>53095859
>WE NEVER WIN
The Imperium is cut in half, what more do you want?

>>53095813

I'm pretty sure even the Emperor has less plot armour than Blandboots Perfectman.

So glad I didn't go for ultramarines, they're impossible to take seriously at this stage.

Good ol' Carcharodons don't need to worry about a shitty 14 foot demigod showing up.

>>53095882
S T O P
Atleast if it happens give me a narrative campagin or some new units dammit.I want Death Company Terminators

>>53095845
Can you weebs stop

>>53095623
To be fair, I'd classify Vraks, Sabat, and Badab as 'Wars', while Gathering Storm is a 'War Story'.
Ie, the first three are campaigns happening in a setting - we're detailing places for people to get shot, moving the relative power levels around, that sort of thing.
GS takes place in a plot - it exists only to tell a story, and not really to let you tell a story at the table.
It really is a difference of philosophy of approach.
>tfw Impfag who actually liked us getting btfo at Cadia

>>53095859

>Here you are sperging about the portrayal of Chaos when the only real problem is that we never fucking win

This is a good thing, moron. If you "win" in the way you're talking about rather than just your generic rampages across a few worlds then we lose our setting.

>>53095930
>>tfw Impfag who actually liked us getting btfo at Cadia

>t. false-flagging chaosfag

>>53095882
Pretty sure that's generic chaos spikes covered in skulls, there isn't a tyranid with a helmet on his finger just charging into the battle.

>>53095848
Seeing things as they are is not making assumptions, it is recognizing a clear patter. The Imperium never actually loses a campagin, this is true even against the Tau which had their victory casually denied by the Firestorm. Then again there are the posts I quoted which canonically confirm Guilliman and his girlfriend are trying to rebuild the pylons, which you continue to ignore because it doesn't suit your delusions.

>You don't know as much as you think you do, you can stop pretending to be special now.
Nearly every single chaosfag on this thread has agreed with me, guarfags just celebrating and mocking us because THEY KNOW we'll never win. The only snowflake who thinks he knows better than everyone is you.

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>>53095913
Say goodbye to sweet Eldar booty then.

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>>53095904
>Redpill me

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>>53095825
Is homosexuality a sin in the imperial cult?
You seem oddly scared of boylove considering you founded a pantheon of male only fraternities where its just manly men working out and sweating together whilst rubbing their steaming boltguns together.

Im pretty sure Im the only one who sleeps with women here, if you can consider daemonettes female.

Is it possible to use wh30k miniatures to use them as "play as"? How much eyebrows would it raise in a normal game? How about a GW store?

I want to use some of those cool forgeworld skitarii troops.

>>53095942
Sorry, didn't realize that liking a faction means that you're a five year-old who wants them to always win.
If there are no enemies to fight, are they gonna print rules for my guys to sit around at base jerking off?

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So I played through Dawn of War II, and come someone tell me why Avitus betrayed canonically? It seemed like he was the most loyal of all Blood Ravens yet I can't fathom why he just mentally crumbled of all people.

I honestly thought someone like Tarkus who was blinded by his devotion would be the traitor.

>>53095857
>chaos is just tzeench and slaneesh
Fuck off. Khorne fluff specifically states people come to him, he doesn't try to 'seduce' them and his only temple and form of worship is the battlefield.

>>53095948
>seeing things as they are is not making assumptions, it is recognizing a clear pattern

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Dude, get on your meds. That's the only reply I've made to your shit so far, everything else was other people calling you retarded. Seriously, regardless of 40k stuff, the way you're talking about this screams autism.

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>>53095969
I can't hear you over moans of Yvraine, Celestine and Greyfax.

>>53095969
>Is homosexuality a sin in the imperial cult?
Only if it's not done in the name of the Emperor and all that jazz. Imperium don't care as long as you're not queefing demons out of your mangina.

>>53095904
Ferrus Mannus and Fulgrim were the best of friends, they both the others most beloved brother. When approached by Horus to turn against the Emperor, Fulgrim has an emotional breakdown but agrees to follow Horus. Fulgrim tries to make Ferrus see Horus's light, but Ferrus rejects him in disgust and attacks. Fulgrim mortally wounds him but cant bring himself to kill Ferrus, so he leaves.

Later on the battlefield of Isstvan V, Fulgrim and Ferrus meet on the battlefield again. Fulgrim defeats Ferrus yet again, but cant bring himself to kill Ferrus until the Daemon in his sword tells him to do it faggot.

Itd be like if when Guts tried to leave the band of the hawk, Griffith kicked the shit out of him.
And then if in the final scene he killed Guts after caping raska

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>>53095984

He devoted his life to the chapter so he lost his mind when he found out he was serving chaos the whole time and his whole life had been a lie

>>53095984
>t seemed like he was the most loyal of all Blood Ravens yet I can't fathom why he just mentally crumbled of all people.

Avitus tongue lashed his own chapter in one of the briefings. He had anger issues with the chapter and its history and the corruption hidden within.

And he turned because of PTSD. He wanted to die and have some peace from all the guilty and depression.

Plasma cannons: green or blue?

>>53096014
Thanks a lot. WH40k's lore is great, no wonder it inspired so much mediums.

>>53096014
I've always felt bad for Ferrus. I mean, it's no great shame to get your ass kicked by Fulgrim, but I feel like he's never gotten more description then 'one who died in the war that we care less about than Sanguinus.'

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>>53095997
>Guilliman brags about banging old ladies.
Im glad you finally lost your virginity brother, it certainly took you long enough.

>>53096041

they have never been depicted as green in any official art or models

>>53096041
Blue, personally. Green is for Necrons.

>>53096041
Whichever pops more with your army scheme.

>>53096041
Use a colour to accent your armour colours is my advice.

>>53096022
>>53096018
If that was the case, why didn't Avitus just shoot himself in the head or go against the chapter? There are better ways to redemption than going directly to the Black Legion

>>53096078

He wasn't seeking redemption

>>53095911
The goal (Crimson Path) was to ride the warpstorms all the way to Terra, yet if fucking missed. Now Guilliman and his girlfriend are rebuilding the pylons and we'll be back to square one.

What a (((victory!))).

>>53095941
>the only possible victory is to End Times the entire galaxy
No, you fucking retard. We could take important planets like Fenris, Medusa, Armaggedon and such like in the Horus Heresy without losing 90% of our forces in the process and it won't make the Eye of Terror instantly eat the galaxy.

But you already knew this didn't you?

>>53093543
Well, all done at warhammer world for the day, ended up not getting anything after learning a player in our play group is also nurgle CSM. So I've decided on khorne, with Kharn and Bezerkers, and Spartan tanks. Thinking of fitting lucius and a squad of CSM in another spartan.

>>53095989

>Fuck off chaos isn't just Tzeentch and Slaanesh

And here I thought my description was too nurgle-heavy.

Khorne is corruption too anyhow. See, being violent and brutal is necessary for survival in 40k, and Khorne represents the ever-present siren call of giving into it completely, of revelling in slaughter to the exclusion of all else.

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>>53093111
Gotta go with the twins.

>>53096105
>Uses unreliable means
>Doesn't work out as planned
Good job lads.

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My Deathwatch have arrived, I shall provide updates periodically!

Suffer Not the Alien to Live!

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>>53096105
>The goal (Crimson Path) was to ride the warpstorms all the way to Terra, yet if fucking missed.

>>53095969
It's Slaneeshi corruption at worst, Nurgle corruption at best. Of course it's heresy.