Song of Swords: Why don't you make new threads? Edition.

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Khopesh is shit, cinquedea best.

>>53076300
How do you use this weapon?

>>53077140
You stab or slash someone with it.

>>53077140
You intimidate your rivals with it

>>53077140
You plaster a bunch of swag on it's blade to show how rich you are.

>>53077140
I think it broadens so that the target bleeds out more quickly after a hueg stab wound.

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I forgot to post this, but I updated what I made a month ago. It combines Ballad with SoS, in addition to statting out antique firearms to be in line with Ballad.

>>53077760
The broadness is more likely a stylistic thing than functional. It also helps the cut.

>>53078163
Would a curved blade be better for that?

>>53079625
Well, in a way, but a broader blade helps too.

>>53079722
Own goaled hard.

>>53077887
Nice.

>>53079625
It might be harder to stab with a curved blade.

>>53079886
what did he mean by this

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>>53079625
A wide blade can be very thin, and still have good stiffness in the edge to edge direction, and decent mass behind the swing to help the momentum. All of that helping with cutting. Of course, it's generally out by the cutting part that we really want these things for them to matter. (Though there may be some interesting effects on blade harmonics form it as well.)

A curved blade can also help with cutting, I think by helping ensure you get a slight slicing component to your cut even if you yourself forgot to add it. This is independent form the width thing, so you can pick either or both these ways to help things along.

The wide blade of the cinqueada is probably more about looking cool in itself, and to provide a large "canvas" for decorative fullering and, in some cases, etching and gilding. The impression I've gotten is that it's at least as much a fashion accessory as it was a weapon.

One thing to keep in mind regarding the cutting though is that the wide and thin geometry allows for a lot of contact between the sides of the blade and the sides of the wound, and thus a lot of friction. A wider, narrower design will have to do more work parting the wound, but in return reduces the friction. I suspect what works the best is one of those things that varies a lot with a lot of factors.

>>53079906
A slight curve shouldn't make it much harder. At the same time, it probably won't help with your cutting as much either. It's less of straight vs curved, and instead a scale going from zero to lots.

>>53080267
Thank you KM, I love you.
By the way, do you happen to know anything about medieval grenades/hand bombs?

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>>53080298
Not a lot. I know somewhat later (say, 17th-18th century) ones would be clay, glass or cast iron pots filled with gunpowder and with a fuse inserted. By and large this is achievable with early 14th century tech in Europe (possibly quite a bit earlier elsewhere), but when and where exactly the various types would have been introduced and used I can't help you with. For what it's worth, the price and rarity of black powder fell off a cliff in the late 14th/early 15th century, wouldn't surprise me if that had an effect on grenade use as well.

>>53080424
Have you any idea about how effective even those 18th century grenades would have been?

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A possible very early one, depending on how reliable the sellers description was, and how heavy the quotations marks around grenade are supposed to be.

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Also available as incendiary. This is just a ball of rope, filled with more rope, fabric, fibre, or whatever else could help carry an incendiary mixture (the known recipe is basically very badly saltpetre-starved wet mixed black powder). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL4vnolCwLI

The round things seen on the surface are the business ends of "murder tubes". These are paper tubes filled with proper black powder, capped with lead balls. They'll go off more or less at random as the ball burns, and while they won't kill anyone at any real range, they'll make it a very exiting job to get the grenade away from anything flammable before it starts a fire.

As a tangent, the WW2 firebomb that the British loved so much was essentially a thermite candle. And since they didn't like firefighters either some of those would have an explosive charge somewhere within it, meaning any of them could detonate at any moment as it lay there burning.

>>53080453
Not really, no. I would imagine that they won't measure up to, say, a WW2 grenade, so that could probably be used as an upper limit quite safely.

>>53080453
They look pretty thick, so shrapnel was probably pretty beastly, but I don't know how good the powder quality was back then.

>>53080559
Damn, I've been trying to dig up info on old grenade power, but it's pretty much impossible to find anything about it.

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>>53080577
I suspect the large shrapnel chunks would have been balanced by the relatively speaking very low density of the shrapnel, say around a third of iron/steel. So you need large chunks to get enough momentum in there to do much damage. It may also have been a way to contain the explosion for a bit longer with these relatively weak and brittle materials, allowing pressure ot build up for when it did pop.

Powder quality in the middle ages would have varied immensely. The early nitre bed based powders in particular would have an extremely short shelf life (I'm under the impression that a day or two from manufacture could mean a significant reduction in power). For most of the 15th century this would then be replaced by powder made in the shape of large loaves, which had a decent shelf life in that form, and was then crumbled or ground up before use, at which point the shelf life would drop drastically again. All of this being very weather-dependent, as the mechanism of spoiling is absorption of atmospheric moisture. Reasonably moisture-resistant powders (due to purer saltpetre) came about, hm, early 16th century IIRC, though ensuring even and optimal quality was an ongoing struggle that even modern day black powder makers has to deal with to some degree.

But all said and done, when fresh the powder was probably very similar to modern day black powder (the crumbled leaves effectively being of a very, very fine grind due to the ripped up edges). It's essentially the same thing after all.

>>53075198
Could one run an MGS themed game in Ballad?

>>53082464
Yes.

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Sos/Ballad PC theme songs?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD165Xn2PXw

>>53083662
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIcxqVRLEWI
The classic.

>>53082464
Very easily, though a big part of MGS is stealth and sneaking around, which doesn't translate well to tabletop.

>>53084435
Puzzles, too. You can't really do puzzles well on tabletop.

>>53083662
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOyBPNqUdGM

>>53083662
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvKRbi2ovDY

Anyone else got a concept of their backer art back yet?

Jimmy, Bones, when are you gonna get your Kickstarter updated? You promised a combat update like a week ago.

>>53085260
You sort of can, it just takes a bunch of props made ahead of time and it's tough to get the difficulty right.

http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1493469489692.webm

Absolutely Chironic. The Japanese finally saw John Wick.

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>>53089374
Is this a legit thing?

>>53089374
John Wick had to reload

>>53077140
Very carefully.

>>53087095
It's out now as of like an hour ago apparently

>>53089525
22 shots. With an double stack extended magazine, like the one he's shown with, that's very possible.

>>53090266
Well, yeah. They only update when one of us tells them to, but at least they do so promptly when reminded.

So am I blind or does the new School system not list the level of Talent you unlock at any given point. It's just "New Talent!". Or am I missing something.

>>53091137
You are correct. I'll bet the next big thing is going to be reworked Talents.

>>53091280
>>53091137
It'll probably be something like Ballad, where there are small trees. I hope Talents get a lot of love. The regular SoS talents are kind of boring compared to the Ballad ones, and a lot of weapons have really no talents while Pugilism has a million for no reason. It's hard to differentiate fighters to any real extent.

I kind of have an instinctive dislike of talents because they smack of D&D feats and builds, but Ballad shows that they can really change how you play a character. I hope some of that goes into SoS.

>>53091488
>1488
>likes ballad
Shocker

>>53091605
wtf I love Nazis now

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So just to check we absolutely needed to take these people's money right?

>>53093583
Take their money, ignore their feedback

>>53093622
fucking hell

>>53093583
At first I was kinda sure that it's a troll, but I'm not that sure anymore.

>>53093583
>>53093622
>>53093635
>>53094035
He's got the right idea though. We could use more banes for different addictions, would be pretty sweet.

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>>53093583
>buthurt fatty
>>53094059
agree with this though. more banes to the people!

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>>53093583
[Desire for eugenics program intensifies]

>>53093583
Inb4 he gets like a dozen responses calling him a fatass

>>53094937
I don't think Jimmy would appreciate that.

>>53094902
The State has the duty to help raise the standard of national health by providing maternity welfare centers, by prohibiting juvenile labor, by increasing physical fitness through the introduction of compulsory games and gymnastics, and by the greatest possible encouragement of associations concerned with the physical education of the young.

>>53094937
>>53093583
Don't do it. We should address this tactfully so that we don't all look like assholes.

>>53093583
Where's this actually at?

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>>53095234
What big cats there are in vosca?
Karthacks got tigers though, right?

>>53095414
sos reddit

>>53095234
Holy shit, whoever is "Captain Carthage," why would you fucking do this, you've just created a shitstorm that I can't ignore. I HAVE To answer this guy now you fuckwits, why the fuck would you do this? Seriously, stop this shit immediately. It is not your job to go and harass people for us on fucking REDDIT.

>>53095518
Sorry, I'll delete some.

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>>53095537
It's fine, this time wasn't so bad, but Jesus.

At least I was able to resist saying that we already had a Religious Zealotry Boon called "Virtuous," Inshallah.

>>53095714
I really am sorry, my poor impulse control got the best of me and I forgot where I was. It's extra frustrating because I see now that it undermined the points I was trying to make.

Don't be me /SoS/, be mindful of your surroundings.

>>53094059
It's just important to make purely mental Banes actually matter mechanically too. Honorable, Virtuous and similar Banes are way too easy to game to get free Boons

>>53095752
It's alright buddy, you don't hang out with the four khans and then get upset when someone burns down a village. Just be mindful in the future--I can handle this sort of thing, it will be better if I handle it.

>>53095791
If your players are gaming them for extra boons and they never come up in the game, either your players, your games, or both, are shit.

>>53095714
Small quibble, inshallah means the equivalent of "God-willing", whereas you're likely intending "thank god", or "praise be". Accordingly, the proper phrase would be "Praise be to God", 'Al-hamd ul ilah" (praise be to God), or "chukran Allah" (literally, thank God)

>>53095842
Thank you Friendly Arabic Expert.

Outside of combat, how often shluld Blood Loss tests be made if a person is bleeding out? One per minute?

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>>53096127
>>53095441

>>53096278
>>53095441
There are Tigers in Karthack, as well as further East and South.

It is also said that in Dace, there is a terrible sort of beast called the Ostockroznock, which is a large cat of some variety which is invisible to the naked eye. Its fur cloaks it, and it cannot be seen, but its eyes grow visible at times, glowing bright green.

It is commonly believed to be some sort of tiger, mutated by the Magestone content in its primary prey--Dacians. It is also suspected that its eyes glow more green and bright the more people it eats for precisely that reason.

In Galli there are "Tomb Lions," which at one time dwelt in caves, but which now occupy ruins, catacombs and tombs, which Genosian Law forbids be destroyed, and which are often simply built over and over each other, creating a great network of convenient tunnels and caverns.

Maned lions can be found in Karthack as well as Berkukha and all about the Horn of Tujank. A few were brought over to Iber as pets by the Karthacks, but escaped. A small population of these beasts grows in the wartorn country, often becoming maneaters and preying on villagers, hunters, or even wounded soldiers.

>>53093583
Aren't a lot of those covered by the flaw arc?

>>53097117
Yes

>>53097117
The Grit Insanity as well

>>53093583
Sour guy. On one of my games one of the players brought his girlfriend along, and as I was explaining the rules of Boons and Banes I used Short and Tall as examples, forgetting that she was like 5 feet tall. She took it about as normally as any proper human being though, and we joked pretty hard about it.

>>53096206
Blood tests are utterly fucked right now. You bleed to death in minutes from tiny wounds. It's almost better to ignore bleed for now.

>>53095832
You can account for them, but they're still fairly hard to keep track of and easy to game. It's better to mechanize them like pretty much every other game, so that they're actual banes. And adding more banes, like Ballad's addiction bane.

>>53093583
>wahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Fuck off nigger.

>>53099845
I mean, I like it

>>53101895
>>53099845
Does anyone have that link where the guy interviewed doctors about bleeding out?

>>53101952
Am I just too stoned or in the 1.3 update does it take 96 starting attribute points to have straight 4s at character creation? And the most you can get is 48?

>>53102176
I had this same question and I think what it's meant to be is a return to earlier versions where each level costs 1 at character generation. So those 38 or so points you get for a 5 pcp investment actually nets you a nice stat line.

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>no one has posted it yet
New rules update everyone

>>53103559
bucklers are incredible, holy shit
>Block TN 6
>Bash TN 6
>Plate-tier AV
>requires 6+ BS to Hew
>no longer protects just your hands and forearms, but now your Upper Head, Lower Head, Face, Neck, entire shield arm from hand to Shoulder, and your other Shoulder as well
>for 0 wt 4 sp and one hand
The game should be renamed Song of Bucklers
Think of the weight and gold you save by using a buckler instead of wearing helmets and bevors and arm armor. And you get TNs of 6 on top of that!

>>53103815
Yeah that...seems a little much.

It sounds like it's describing a rodela rather than a dueling buckler.

>>53103815
everyone was already using bucklers but wow holy shit

>>53103815
I'll give it to 'em they definitely didn't hold back on this. We'll have to see how good of an idea the changes actually were but at least things are actually moving again.

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>>53103815

>tfw no pet Kesh

>>53106013
Some people keep a sort of Bonsai Kesh around as decorations or quasi-pets, but they tend to smell really bad unless you're an expert in chemistry, and can change the water supply constantly with something rich enough to suppress their poison-gas hunting technique that also doesn't smell like dead shit.

There are a few botanists who maintain that Kesh possess the ability to "learn" over the course of time, and suggest that a Kesh plant could be trained through behavioral reinforcement to act in a certain ways so as to make them more aggressive in dragging living things into their pits, or even so as to make them harmless. These academics are normally shunned by others in their field, who cite the total lack of any sort of brain or anything resembling one in the creatures.

Even so a few aristocrats have been caught clandestinely attempting to train "guard kesh' to defend their treasuries or even the moats of their castles. They are usually chastized and the experiments halted. It has never been confirmed whether or not any of the experiments were actually successful.

Also: What are peoples' experiences with Joint Thrust, and does it adequately serve in combat as it is now? Is it too strong? Too weak? Please let us know so that we can fix eet. This isn't exactly feedback to changes per-se, so it can happen here with no worries.

>>53106595
Make polearms able to benefit from the same bonuses as a half sworded blade. It's fucking crazy you can't maneuver the point of a poleaxe into a guy's eyes but you can maneuver a sword when you're holding them the exact same way.

>>53106581
Hey Jimmy how much would, say, a 12 pounder cannon cost in Vosca? How much would other cannons usually run people?

>>53086686
They told me they were doing mine now, so maybe someday soon?

>>53106595
The fact that swords-being-halfsworded are the only weapons that get full STR to damage is a blight upon the game and should be a source of humiliation for your team. Jesus H Christ, a halfsword jointthrust invalidates all plate *and* any maille voiders, it's fucking retarded.
Any other weapon, it's simply never (and by the math, that is a hard never) worth joint thrusting an armor piece that has any kind of underarmor, relegating it to face stabs alone. Even then, most weapons with thin blade have a low enough base damage that the halved strength kind of shits on damage potential against anyone that has invested in TOU.
I'm kind of leery of how easy it would be to completely invalidate enemy armor (all helmets and visors have weakpoints lol) except fucking ventails for some reason despite literally all of them having gaps for the eyes? If any 2Hander got full STR, there'd be zero reason to even bother aiming at limbs, it'd just be joint thrusts for days. With the Ahlspeiss and Pollax existing with Thin Blade, no helm could save us, but certainly there's a weakness in the system here as it stands with FUCKING SWORDS being better anti-armor weapons than purpose built anti-armor weapons.

>>53106635
>full benefits
no fuck you nerf halfswording
Pollaxs already have Thin Blade, it's just as easy to *land* a Joint Thrust with them, the problem is how *effective* their Joint Thrusts are.

>>53106595
Weird things:
-Joint Thrust lets you target a specific hit location. You can't do this if they are not wearing weak point armor
-Joint Thrust is vastly better with halfsworded swords than it is with any other weapon because of the half STR thing
-you have to do math to see if it's even a good idea to try and joint thrust, since you have to compare just stabbing through the armor to the dice cost and increased TN and half STR. It might sometimes be a trap option like Toughness in 3.5e
-I think the dice cost and increased TN is supposed to represent how it's harder to specifically thrust a specific point, is that right?
-it kinda sorta interacts with integrated visors and movable visors, but not really?
-Coup de Grace does the same thing as Joint Thrust but they're different maneuvers for some reason
Have you read Band of Bastards? They have a specific armpit and hamstring hit location which certain armor never protects, and you can pay dice to do an accurate thrust, which will let you hit that area more easily. But the move is just a normal thrust usable with any weapon

>>53106683
>Even then, most weapons with thin blade have a low enough base damage that the halved strength kind of shits on damage potential against anyone that has invested in TOU.

And thus, the greatest enemies of Song of Swords rear their heads again. Fucking Strength and Toughness and their place in the damage formula.

I think the thing is that joint thrusts shouldn't be something you can just do out of no where. They should be hard to land, but if you manage to it should pretty much wreck the other guy.
Long shafted weapons make it even harder to land that fucking accurate blow. Make all joint thrusts as effective, but change their difficulty depending on the weapon and situation?

>>53106683
>*and* any maille voiders, it's fucking retarded.
Okay this is a huge thing. Thin Blade gives you +3 AP. That effectively drops the AVP of mail from 4 to 1.
Regular quilted padding has AVP 3 or 4. So why would anyone wear mail when the quilt's AVP blows it completely out of the water?
Your game cannot claim to be realistic so long as this interaction with Thin Blade exists. And yes I have to tell you it's Thin Blade because you have a bad habit of completely misjudging what the problem is and making a totally different solution (strength caps then, bucklers now)

>>53106755
Poleaxes did it all the fucking time.

>>53106740
This

>>53106762
Not the other guy, but source? Can you find some youtube link if you know the system/technique? It sounds kinda weird to me that such a clumsy weapon would do that.
Or maybe I'm just imagining them being clumsy.

>>53106776
>poleaxes
>clumsy
They're an anti-armor weapon with a long giant spike on both ends, you think they just had it there for fun?

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>>53106776
>clumsy weapon
wew

>>53106776
http://www.thearma.org/essays/Lalaing.htm#.WQ7RedLyuUk

Yeah,
>ARMA
but it's a fairly interesting figure. Most of his 'thing' appears to be spooking people the fuck out by ripping their helmets off with a lance to the visor or stabbing people in the eyeslot with a poleaxe.

I've also seen video of some Russian guy in full plate who was accidentally stabbed in the eye by a poleaxe jab during an exhibition sparring match. Nasty stuff.

>>53106755
I wonder about that. From a gameplay standpoint I like that grappling gives you the reward of having Coup de Grace, which is powerful.
But Audatia's armor rules were specifically made so that any thrust, not just a halfsworded thrust, would defeat armor. Guy Windsor has fought in armor a few times, I sure haven't so I don't know anything about it.

>>53106740
>>53106765
This is what I'm most interested in, not joint thrust. This is the issue that comes up again and again and again and again. Is anything being done to fix it?

>>53106595
Can someone explain to me why you can joint thrust through, say, a helmet visor, but you can't joint thrust to get around Shield coverage? Like this new high and low thing. Shields don't have armor weak spots, so you can't joint thrust to get around it. But if you put on a helmet with a goggle visor now suddenly you can be joint thrusted...yet still be stopped by the shield AV.

I guess what I'm saying is, I can't envision what these mechanics represent when they combine together.

>>53106812
>>53106776
Here's the actual video. I can't link Facebook videos, so here's good ol' Knyght Errant linking to it. Guy almost lost an eye because the corner of the axe slipped into his visor. If it had been the actual spike, without the big safety ball they put on the end, that eye could have been lost or he could have been killed.

http://modernchivalry.org/forum/index.php?topic=3614.0

>>53106839
>Is anything being done to fix it?
Jimmy has been adamant on NOT changing the damage formula. So unless he gets an idea from BoB or Bovine about armor ignoring the numbers and outright canceling damage in certain cases--outright saying "no, you cannot cut through plate" or somesuch--or implementing wound caps, nothing will be changing with damage.

Fairly concise, if incendiary. I'll see what I can do.

>>53106872
My position on that has softened to a degree, it's in discussion now.

>>53106902
What does "in discussion" mean?

>>53106905
"being talked about"

>>53106902
What are you thinking about as possible solutions?

>>53106907
ur a cheeky cunt m8

>>53106868
Losing an eye in SoS requires exactly a level 4 piercing wound. This guy almost lost an eye to an axe. Real world confirmed shit at SoS

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how does this shield work, /sos/?

>>53103815
I'm glad to see an alternative to wearing a helmet

TN6 isn't that big of a deal, anyone who was anyone in the tournament had TN6 defenses

>>53107977
>TN 6 isn't a big deal
>everyone who tried really hard to win had TN 6

>>53107838
Medium or Large shield, metal rimmed, boss. Probably just give it TN 7s and Medium size.

>>53108021
think he meant in real life.
Kite shields with center grip.... I aint never seen such a thang.

>>53107838
death grips

>>53108589
More interesting than that are the grappling hooks they're trying to use to bring down the shields

>>53103815
>Block TN 6
Pretty accurate
>Bash TN 6
Pretty accurate
>Plate AV
Accurate
>Requires a shitload of luck and strength to cut through a piece of hardened tempered metal
100% accurate
>protects more than just the hand and forearm
Jimmy you fucking moron, fix this

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>>53109099
>a piece of hardened tempered metal

Not every buckler was all-metal. It would also surprise me greatly if a good number of the all metals ones weren't plain, unhardenable iron as well. Plate armour on the cheaper end usually was.

>>53109163
Isn't a wooden buckler a targe?

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>>53109223
I think the targe will tend to be a bit bigger.

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>>53107977
>anyone who was anyone in the tournament had TN6 defenses
Hahahaha

>>53109223
Targes are way bigger.

>>53108589
I think germanics used them in the few first centuries.
Might be wrong though.

>>53107977
No, anyone who was anyone in the tournament was a minmaxing Burdinadin with ten strength and ten toughness. That shouldn't be the norm either. TN6 is okay for bucklers but not if they also provide great coverage.

>>53107838
I think it looks like it would work similar to a buckler.

>>53111695
Probably. I get the idea behind the coverage for bucklers being so large. You can maneuver it to stop a lot of different blows. But bucklers are much more active defense than passive. The idea that a buckler can passively cover so many regions, especially against ranged, is nuts

Jimmy why does Beat deal stun equal to BS but Shield Beat doesn't?

>>53110784
>>53109767
Well in game they're the same size, so SoS calls non-metal bucklers "targes".

>>53113514
My guess is it's a bone thrown out there to people who won't be using shields.

>>53114383
Naw, it's because when Jimmy makes changes to the game he only changes one thing. When he added stun equal to BS to Beat he wasn't thinking about Shield Beat. He just altered Beat and called it a day. And that was two years ago.

>>53114047
Yeah but SoS also has leather armor so you can't put too much stock in it.

>>53114755
Cringe meme.

Given the new stuff Jimmy has released in 1.3 (as well as other supplementary documents?), the LaTeXified document could stand to get an update.

Unfortunately, as I do not get the chance to play the game lately, I don't have the time to find the specific bits and bobs that need to be ported over. However, the actual porting isn't too much of a hassle once I know what is supposed to be ported. If people could, as they note new rules superseding old ones, point the specific pages out in 1.3 (and the LaTeXified PDF too would be nice, but not necessary per sé), I can update the PDF with the links and formatting and all that stuff

TL;DR: Please write what needs to be in the LaTeXified PDF from 1.3 in https://pad.riseup.net/p/Song-of-Swords

Alternatively, if anyone wants to take over the project, you're free to fork the repo at https://github.com/phzero/latexed-SOS

I'm posting this here too since no one responded in the super sekrit discord club

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>>53109099
Holy shit, read the fucking book. The changes give shields standard coverage for their size category and give you two positions in which to hold the shield--high and low.

So no shit the high buckler stance protects the head, why fucking wouldn't it? What else would you do with the fucking buckler?

>>53109163
He's got a point there, I just don't know what the proportions were, or if it merits representation.
Oh oh, does KM stand for Karl Marx? Are you actually a communist?

>>53116601
This makes sense in melee, but it's fucking retarded for range attacks.

Remember that time Jimmy got so mad he lashed out at KM for literally no reason?

>>53116627
Perhaps against attacks in a larger battle where arrows can fall from above or come from various directions, but against an opponent facing you directly, I think it works fine.

>>53116671
Wohoah, now, not upset.at KM. The communist thing was a joke. Those are two different people. I've been trying to guess what KM stands for for years.

>>53106902
How come the UCUC isn't years or decades more advanced than other countries when they brain drain other countries and live in a nearly post-scarcity society that doesn't eat up resources?

While other people are running around with STG44s they should be running around with G11s or some funky 1960s weapons like the SPIW. They should be advanced like Foxhound or the Diamond Dogs.

>>53116766
But that isn't how ranged attacks work. The game isn't designed around fechts where everyone is aware and facing each other. What if you're fighting a couple bandits in the woods and some guy shoots at you from a tree? Fuck, what if someone just shoots at you from a slight angle? You could specify that coverage only works against people you are directly facing, but then larger shields won't provide cover in skirmishes unless they're in a very specific situation.

>>53116601
>Holy shit, read the fucking book.
Shades of ACE mecha fag

>>53117530
There can only be so much granularity.

>>53116766
>Maybe that's the case for a normal combat situation with bows or cannon, but it works fine to simulate gimmicky pistol shit
I know you have your own personal tastes in the game and that's fine, but you shouldn't focus on them to the exclusion of things that are vastly more likely to occur for the typical player.

>>53117500
I think they are advanced, but also prefer soft power, which doesn't always work very well. So like the You Cuck are basically the Burdinadin of Ballad. Plus they spend a lot of their intellectual capacity on masturbatory navel gazing, like Post Modern Feminism And The Role Of The Artichoke.

>>53117736
A situational utility limitation does make sense though.

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>>53117816
Not all of them would be useful. But you'd still get mathematicians, engineers, and more drawn to the promise of a post-scarcity society and the ideals of the UCUC.

They don't have to worry about welfare or anything else to eat government resources. They could easily have a few think tanks pushing out crazy experimental gear for their UCUC teams.

>>53117834
This

>>53117902
I'm pretty sure those things happen.

>>53117973
I think it'd be more fun (and make them closer to the "Culture") if they used a bunch of weird guns from the 1960s minimum, like they do with the Skorpion.

The UC can be mocked, but the UCUC should be fucking metal gear. A cross between the KGB and badass specops. They should be badass so they're worthwhile to play as and as antagonists.

The only problem is that when they succeed everything goes to hell because you can't create a 21st century western liberal democracy out of some devoutly christian krauts who think it's still 1000AD.

>>53118076
Don't they also use an M14 as their main battle rifle?

So is there going to be an update to talents soon? Because I don't really like were they are very much. There's a bunch of talents for pugilism and spears, and then a bunch of universals. The spear talents are broken and sword and blunt talents are horribly lacking.

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>>53119025
No, they use what is essentially a Fedorov in a real cartridge rather than some japanese snowflake.

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>>53120550
You could also think of it as a Selbstaluser some UC engineer rechambered for 7.62x54mmR and made automatic, the absolute madman. Regardless, the end result is the same.

>>53107838
>>53111695
So in seriousness, it would work much like a viking round shield, though it looks a little smaller and maybe lighter, or like a pointier Theuros/Scutum. Center held shields offer a lot more maneuverability and extended range vs. the extra stability of a strapped shield.

>>53118076
>>53117774
I think it'd also work in most instances of bows being used in a skirmish-style situation. We've only very recently switched to a system which easily facilitates graphed-out combat, so we should develop rules for shots outside of the front arc eventually--but for rules which represent head-on combat, I think this is not an unreasonable design choice even if it simplifies the actual physics of battle a bit. Nobody is suggesting that attacks from the rear ought to be defended against by shields, but differentiating between different angles within the front arc is simply too much.

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>>53117500
They have a lot of high quality educated people, but advances in weapons manufacturing and such don't just come from the quality of R&D, but also from field testing, real-life experience, and the pressures of the military. The UCUC has far less of these than, say, Albion and Chiron do. They deal largely in the realms of theory.

Still, they ARE more advanced than the other societies, but they lack the simple space and manpower to set up factories and large-scale production. Most UC equipment would be produced essentially in machine shops according to designs created by a small team of engineers conferring with the UCUC's senior staff. Most of the weapons would be essentially handmade role-specific arms intended for use by elite teams.

The advantages of the weapons, say, the Rahoo or Chiron produce is that they're suitable for actual war. Rugged durability, consistent calibers, ease of maintenance, etc. These are problems the UC simply doesn't have to deal with, so they tend not to design around that.

I tend to agree that their weapons should be "advanced but situational," and that the UCUC should be an intimidating adversary in their element--the field of commando raids and special operations.

This fuggin' internet also, wtf. 4chan would not let me post these as one post.

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Stat this lady in armour.
You may take the Facial Deformity Bane under :No Nose, but at 3/4 cost. No you may not skip equipment, that's the most relevant part

>>53120550
>>53120629
>implying the M14 didn't have a full-auto version
They only stopped making M14s with FA because after the third shot, you were more in the range of anti-aircraft than anti-infantry.

>>53121857
Nobody ever said that, they just said that the UC Tipper is based off the Federov. It's not even chambered in 7.62x39mm.

>>53121857
I implied no such thing, fool. However, the Tipper is almost certainly not based on the M14. The M14 is a later design than either the Avtomat or the Selbstlader (1959 compared 1915 and 1916 respectively) making it less in Ballad's timeframe, though admittedly the timeframe is already bent by things like the Bren Ten and Vz 58 being in-game. Additionally, UC don't use the Garand (Rahoo SLR) in which the M14 is rooted.
>>53122021
If you meant to say the Tipper isn't in 7.62x51, which is what the M14 uses, you're correct. It's in 7.62x54mm, which is what the SVD and Mosin Nagant use.

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>>53122083
>>53121857
>>53122021
>This obscure weapon autism

>>53122120
That's been the name of the game since day one. The autism is just about guns rather than swords and polearm heads now.

>>53117902
Engineers aren't, usually, combatants. A smart engineer can make garbage products if he's not deferent to the needs and demands of the end-user. With the lack of combat testing, it stands to reason the UC would mainly produce novelties and fancy army toys, but not effective gear that can operate both in the Void and on land, with the necessary reliability and efficacy.

>>53116601
Targe should be medium.

>>53123358
no

>>53106857
>Can someone explain to me why you can joint thrust through, say, a helmet visor, but you can't joint thrust to get around Shield coverage?
Better yet, tell me why you can joint thrust through a helmet's visor, but can't thrust specifically at an unarmored elbow.

>>53123421
supposedly it has to do with the armor's weak point representing how it helps guide your point into the weak spot

>>53123470
says fucking who

and I can guide my sword with my hand a fuck ton easier than trying to fucking lever it against an article worn by a hostile, moving combatant

>>53123421
We were going to add an "accurate" option to Thrust, just haven't done it yet. The option to pick your hit location.

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>>53123549

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>>53123549
>pick your hit location
>gizka picks that hit location with her esoterica
>you miss every time
>hfw

>>53123609
Mongoose Monsoon. The final boss.

>>53123394
Okay, I was being retarded, you are right.

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Slave to elf, what do?

Just realized, we have no official art of orredin.
Jimmy, tell Bones to fix this.

>>53125828
whatever she says for the privilege of kissing her feet

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Had to do fucking five captchas.

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>>53126132

Jimmy, when a person dies, does their flame just flicker out?
What happens to dead flames?
Do they just die?
Does the flame react in anyway to the person dying?

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>>53128001
>>53127669
>>53125828
So are we posting Orrdein then?

>>53128565
yes
that is disgusting though, but I'll allow it nevertheless

>>53128656
Wait til you see the lewd version.

>>53128791
...not my thing, but I'm still interested.

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Y'all can have your Orredin Waifus, I have my Swordfu.

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>>53123549
YES. Finally.

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>>53125828
Purple elves are best elves.

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>>53133677

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>>53125828
SLAY

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>>53134225

I have no idea how to fight in this system. No, I'm not confused by the rules themselves, I'm confused about how to apply them in ways that doesn't result to me getting my shit pushed in.

>>53135409
I've been meaning to write a guide on how to avoid losing in SoS, but it's a tricky subject. Half of it is equipment, the rest is using your CP and weapon efficiently. An X factor is mindgames. You can trick people into doing stupid stuff sometimes.

>>53135634
When equipment is relatively even but there is a slight difference in CP, how do you win?

>>53135677
Bring friends with guns.

>>53135677
If you have the advantage, play it safe and wait for your opponent to slip up. If you are disadvantaged, you should take a risk, that's your best bet.

>>53134225
Zells are for violent murder AND for hand holding.

>>53137254
Sometimes simultaneously.

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>/sos/ dives down someone's throat for complaining about something
>Jimmy frantically launches damage control

"Don't mind the lads too much, there's just too much fighting spirit here. Too much piss and vinegar, as they say"

This is the sort of excuse the military gives whenever soldiers beat the fuck out of a bunch of civilians for no reason. "Oh their fighting spirit is just too intense, sorry about that."
I love that the 4chan contingent is so mindlessly aggressive and violent that Jimmy has to resort to apologizing for us like we're a 19th century Prussian army. And even then, the apology is basically "sorry not sorry but it's okay I'm fat too"

> Jimmy has to resort to apologizing for us like we're a 19th century Prussian army.

W-wait we're not?!

>>53140336
Dammit, I've already shot like a dozen Frenchmen!

>>53140336
Hans... are we the baddies?

>>53140509
Ah well, that never goes amiss even if there wasn't a call for it strictly speaking.

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I'm drunk and will answer a question. choose carefully.

>>53140738
are you cute?

>>53140738
Half-din catboys when?

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>>53140738
Who are you again? If that doesn't count as my question, is Jimmy a good lay?

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>>53140748
A little if your into guys.

>>53140757
never, half anythings are a concession and a mistake.

>>53140768
I'm jim-jams trusted adviser, and current roommate. also not a gay.

You guys could have asked for anything and I would have answered truthfully, If i where offered this I would have asked about the setting, you all have a good night.

>>53140884
>I'm jim-jams trusted adviser, and current roommate. also not a gay.

That doesn't answer the question.

>>53140884
Sleep well, drunk man we've never seen before.

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>>53140895
I don't have the answer as I've never been inside him. Also fuck you for asking two questions.

>>53140913
If you have been here long enough you might remember me. I've been helping jimmy plan this for close to a decade and talked to you guys a couple times during that period. not many granted but I've been here.

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>>53140952
>I don't have the answer as I've never been inside him.
But has he been inside of you? You seem to be dodging the question.

>>53140952
I remember you!
What's Jimmy's and yours average day like?

>>53128812
Not but him, but gimme a minute to find him on my pixiv. All these hangul names mix together.

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>>53141002
man why do you and him to be gay? no, no percent of any of either of us has ever entered eachother.

>>53141018
I work and come back to play black desert and watch anime. he works, shitposts, and plays a new game every couple weeks. On the whole we are boring people so we drink a lot. that being said we are both really good for conversation in verry different ways.

>>53128812
https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=110334

Here you go, I did the heavy lifting for you
>>53141065
>BDO
Aw shit. I started that, what class(es) are you? I started as a Maewa and need to haul ass through the story.

>>53141087
>>53141065
How is BDO? I'm thinking of getting into that, picking ToR back up or looking into that new Conan game.

>>53141065
How often does Jimmy work on SoS?
Also how bad/boring is the basic grind and combat of black desert?

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>>53141087
I play wiz because its easy and there will always be a use for them so I don't need to worry about being invalidated by a balance change or new class.

>>53141107
its good if your into losing a lotta time on slow progression its bad if you want fair systems.

>>53141113
These days more than he used to, I cant give you like an hours per week cause I don't know.
the combat is good, better than any other mmo ive seen but the grind is bad, worse than most mmos.

>>53141178
That's fair. I'm still a sub 50 pissant. If I hit 50-55+ I'll yell at Jimmy and we can go raiding.

>>53141178
Which elves are best?
What's Jimmy doing now?

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>>53141204
If you see me in game I'll give advice and help when i have time, main name is Rimenorim, Dont forget that when sending add requests the system is intuitive so you might have to check or uncheck the box for family name and send again for it to get through.

>>53141243
Thats a loaded question, I'll always favor zells because thats my baby, if something is dumb about them its good odds its my fault. that being said ibers have the best men, high elves are the master race and if i was gonna play one for a long campaign whith a decient dm i would play an iron elf. im still drinking and have forgotten the new names to things....anyway i like them all to an extent, we have talked long hours on making them all desireable in different ways. hes sleeping.

>>53141204
too drunk, i ment unituitive

Croaker is posting shit tier girls like that one fag in the Exalted threads

>>53141536
You are wrong.

>>53141536
>shit tier girl
>The Legends of Zelda
Pick one faggot

>>53141387
In your mind what are the pros and cons of each type of elf. Also preferred kind of gear loadout. We know what characters embody Jimmy, Bones and Claymore, is there a character that you correlate to? Also most importantly, what are you drinking?

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>>53141549
Fair enough, Draguvitch is my boy, dunno what you guys know about him but if your curious i can tell you more. wild turkey for me tonight

>>53141065
I thought Jimmy was off the sauce?

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>>53141796
he quit beer, now its more vodka other liqueurs, personally i was pushing for this change a while back im glad he made the switch

>>53141631
I don't think we know of Draguvitch, please introduce him to us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV_IP4mNJCI

>>53139251
I'm a fat fuck and I love the wording, it's weird that he took umbrage with the fork line and not the "causing famines in England" line. Which is fucking genius.

>>53140952
Fuck yeah Croaker! What's some of the major city states in Ruvia?

Sorry I got to the party late, but I've been out drinking as well.

>>53140509
You wouldn't happen to be our resident Arabic expert, would you?

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>>53141844
not gonna lie i wasint expecting sombody to ask for a general intro....ill wing it but , keep in mind im not my best right now and im no writer.
Hes one of the Seven zell paragons (eight if you count radovan), hes got an agenda at work but being in the camp of Sethis nobody is quite sure what it is. what is known is that if hes in your town things have gotten bad, sometimes he makes it better, sometimes worse.

>>53141895
Glad your with me that being said i know finer details about ruvia, not so much about the lager politcal structure. I can tell you that palladin sulla likes tomato soup and sunbathing in the bronze towers of the citadel.

>>53141905
not me, but ive had dealings with them in the past. fair traders if you meet them on the right terms.

>>53141991
How big is your elf collection?

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>>53142111
Not Big Enough

>>53142197
>tfw fanasy race girls in modern clothing are my big weakness

>>53141991
>I can tell you that palladin sulla likes tomato soup and sunbathing in the bronze towers of the citadel.
Don't forget the fondue.

What are some good ways to get past armor?

>>53142502
grappling basically ignores armor
halfsworded joint thrusts are good too
next best is to bring a mace with high AP and shock

>>53142502
step 1) hook
step 2) all in attack
step 3) laugh

everyone can cut through plate with all in attack

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>>53142502
Crossbow it from a distance

>>53142881
But, surely the longbow is the superior weapon.

>>53142914
Still not gonna get past well made armor most of the time.

>>53143195
neither should the crossbow, fuck you jimmy

>>53143216
yeah, it's not like there were crossbows with insane draw weights (up to 900kg) and bolts are naturally better at punching through plate than arrows or anything

>>53143333
then why wear plate?

>>53143382
Because shitters with Crossbows get wrecked by cavalry and you're walking into melee like a god.

Would be really nice if some autist had on hand research on crossbow vs bow and/or bow armor penetration.

>>53140884
>Jimmy is a grown-ass man with a steady job and still has a roommate
>not even gay
Really makes you think.

>>53141991
>the Seven zell paragons
The what now?

>>53141837
So in other words he's still a fucking drunk and ultimately failed at quitting.

Damnit Jimmy, get your shit together.

>>53145187
I'm better off than I ever was before. Dear Croaker, in a fit of elf posting, has slightly misled you.

I have quit drinking casually altogether, now I just do it one night a week. I've switched entirely to hard liquor because I'm on one of those low-carb diets.

>>53145827
Why did you make the game so filled with waifus?

>>53145877
Why wouldn't I? Every writer has his quirks, I happen to like elves.

>>53145112
Rent in Santa Cruz is fucking insane. If I had an ounce more sense than a billiard ball I'd have left this shit state for one governed by actual humans years ago. Instead, I split quarters. Saves money.

I gotta stop falling asleep before this guy when we drink. How'd he know about the tomato soup. The plot thickens.

>>53145827
Nope, too late, I'm gonna worry about you now.

And the carbs aren't the only reason beer makes you fat. Having alcohol regularly changes how your body processes calories. Once a week is a lot better than daily, if you can hold to it, but if you're wanting to lose weight you can make a big difference pretty quick if you cut that out too for a couple months.

>>53145980
This guy knows what he's talking about.

/sosg/ What gear do you like for low cp/fresh player characters? Do you pinch pennies for mail and quilted or dump pcp for fine forged bulletproof plate?

>>53145980
The goal is eventually to stop drinking entirely, but I'm an addict. It starts hurting if I stop for too many days, and I can't afford to have headaches all the time right now.

As it stands I'm already shaving off the pounds pretty hard. I'm tired of being a chubster. Captain Fatso earlier only convinced me that this was extra-necessary by reminding me of my own condemnation of fatties earlier. Put the fork down. PUT DAT COOKIE DOHWN. Embrace Ketosis.


Anyway, you guys are going to really like what we're working on now. We're finally devoting serious energy to fixing Skills, and returning Skill Packets to the game, and also adding in the skills that were "not in beta" before. Also a general fix to parts of the skill system which just didn't work as intended.
Our hope is that in the updated system, taking skill points will be a genuinely useful investment.

>>53146388
>Embrace Ketosis.
Not the other guy, but: I got a friend who did that, but fucked up right after it. At the same time I lost just a bit less weight, and a bit more time, but have been able to keep it.
Seriously, research healthy food. After the ketosis you can't just go eating every fucking thing, even though you might feel like it. Start incorporating healthier life choises into your day already, if you already don't, little by little.

>>53143333
An insane drawweight but such a shitty, short draw distance that you're not getting much better velocity than the warbow anyway.
also
>boltheads and arrowheads
>being significantly different in form
Best I could give you there is how bolts were shorter, squatter assemblages altogether.

>>53146022
>>53145980
Alcohol itself actually has a comparable caloric payload to protein. Granted, you should never be consuming them in similar proportions, but it's there.

>>53146388
Low carb is a meme.
Ketosis is your body shitting itself.
It's good that you're weaning off rather than going cold-turkey like a retard, because alcohol withdrawal can be fatal.

>>53147086
>alcohol withdrawal can be fatal
what

>>53147167
Alcohol causes serious physical dependence when abused, which can be fatal in many cases for serious alcoholics. It has to do with neurotransmitter depression during times of alcohol consumption, and the sudden increase in neurotransmitter activity. The brain isn't ready for it, so you get delirium and tremor and in some cases, things get bad enough to be fatal.

It gets worse the more often you've tried to stop cold turkey, too. Lemmy (as in, Kilmister) needed an IV drip with vodka when he was hospitalized

>>53146498
I'm not stupid, I have a plan for transitioning off of the diet onto a more balanced lifestyle. The fact is, I want this weight off, and I'm just taking the easiest route to that goal that I can, but I don't intend to stuff my face with pies afterwards. Ketosis is not a viable long-term strategy, it's just a weightloss technique. I'll take it, I'm confident that with increased exercise and a slow transition to a less extreme diet, it will result in a healthier me. I have friends who have gotten stern warnings from their doctors, "you need to lose 100 pounds or you WILL die in the next ten years," I don't intend to get that message. I've been scared straight. I need to be alive to complete my great work. I'm not The Boss. I cannot trust any of my servants to accomplish my will for me.

>>53147086
It's a meme that works. I've lost an absurd amount of weight already, I don't expect it to continue at that rate, but a steady decline is desirable.

>>53147788
This is also true. I don't know if it can get fatal (but then I've never been THAT severe of an alcoholic) but it is better to slowly wean off. Move from daily consumption to bi-weekly consumption. Then to weekly. Then to bi-monthly and so on. Then just let it fade away. The temptation is always there, but once you have incorporated sobriety into your identity, it becomes much easier. You just learn to turn it down out of habit or pride.

My advice to anyone young--just don't drink. It isn't worth developing the habit just to break it later. It's a headache and a half. The Mormons are right about this, God put alcohol on the Earth to punish idiots. I'm an idiot and now I'm paying for it. Don't get in debt if you don't want to pay the interest.

>>53141991
>>53145157
On this subject: Each Zellish God (the Seven) has a Paragon, which is a Zell chosen to represent them in the world. It might be more accurate to say that their ship is chosen, and then the ship chooses the most worthy of its crew to represent it.

Draguvich represents Sethis. A
jkulka Bozemir represents Dakon, though he is contested by Shahaka of the Branded Zells.
Rade Sark is trying hard for Tesshecht.
Naggarok is de-facto Yalang's Paragon because he's the only candidate.
Other paragons are simply unknown, or esoteric. It's not like a giant sign pops out in front of them announcing who they are, it just becomes apparent over time.

Old Radovan is an anomaly, because he has Paragon-tier abilities, but explicitly worships no one god, instead espousing a polytheistic, almost pantheistic approach to the Zellish religion.

>>53147034
original post didnt mention heads at all

>>53148331
Ajuka. Not jkulka. Derpidy doo.

>>53148202
It can absolutely be fatal, you can got through tremors, hallucinations, palliations and seizures if your consumption was high and you abruptly withdraw or reduce. Alcohol is crazy dangerous kids and not any less so just because it popular.

t. Almost a pharmacist

>>53146388
Are you on a plan with a doctor? If the headaches are sticking around for more than like a week, you probably should be. That said, I found that limiting myself in quantity worked better than limiting myself in frequency for the headaches. That's harder on the willpower though.

>>53148130
Honestly, the best thing to do for weight is to get into healthy cooking. Depends what you like, but if you're like me, make a lot of chili and black beans and other Caribbean/central American foods. As you transition off of keto, introduce rice and potatoes. Maybe bread but it's hard to find nice bread in the US. Hominy corn is nice too, though you probably only get it in tortillas which are healthy regardless, so that's sort of moot. But fried potatoes and sauces as well as like mamposteado and that kind of thing will help keep you healthy once the alcohol is no longer depressing your metabolism and the cholesterol associated with a ketogenic diet becomes a bigger concern than carrying the subcutaneous weight. And if you're cooking stuff that you like, you're not only eating well in addition to being healthy, but you're saving a lot of money compared to eating out or (usually) eating less healthily, so it's easier to stick with.

>>53146083
Neither. Quilt is ridiculously cheap, you should always have it. Super armor everywhere is not effective enough to be worth it either. You start with buying a good helmet, then making everywhere else armored. Remember what momma told you and wear your elbow & knee pads.

Hey anons, would someone mind linking a (good) example of a plaintext character sheet? I need to know what people include while I work on building an online character builder for you.

>>53149523
https://pastebin.com/QDQPwQLH

Here

Has anyone statted modern weapons platforms and cartridges for Ballad?

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>>53127669
>not wanting orredin femdom

>>53151460
Not yet, but it would be easy. The chief difficulty is statting calibers.

>>53151460
Several AK variants and the FAMAS have been statted.

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>>53151460
Here's a gaggle of guns I did for a STALKER anon in the thread a while back. Funnily enough I just started playing STALKER recently, oodles of fucking fun.

Beretta 92FS 15m|7|6D/2AP 9x19mm|15+1(Box)|1RoF|Conceal[2], Reliable|0.5WT
Walther P99 15m|7|6D/2AP 9x19mm|15+1(Box)|1RoF|Conceal[2], Reliable|0.5WT
Colt 1911 15m|7|7D/1AP .45ACP |7+1(Box)|1RoF|Conceal[2], Reliable|0.5WT
Makarov 15m|6|6D/1AP 9x18mm|12+1(Box)|1RoF|Conceal[3], Reliable|0.5WT
Fort-12 15m|6|6D/1AP 9x18mm|12+1(Box)|1RoF|Conceal[2], Reliable|0.5WT

TOZ-34 20m|6|12D/2AP 12-G|2(Int)|1RoF|[2] Barrels|3.5WT

HK MP5 50m|6|6D/2AP 9x19mm|30+1(Box)|25RoF|Reliable|3WT
HK MP5/10 50m|6|6D/3AP 10mm|30+1(Box)|25RoF|Reliable|3WT

AKM 100m|7|7D/10AP 7.62mm|30+1(Box)|20RoF|Reliable|3.5WT
AK74 125m|7|6D/10AP 5.45mm|30+1(Box)|20RoF|Reliable|3.5WT
VSS 75m|7|6D/4AP 9x39mm|20+1(Box)|20RoF|Silenced|3WT
AN94 125m|7|6D/10AP 5.45mm|30+1(Box)|20RoF|Only uses 2 Rounds (and can only score two hits) when Burst firing, but increases MP by +5 instead of +4 when Burst Firing|3.5WT
Z&M LR300 150m|7|6D/10AP 5.56mm|30+1(Box)|30RoF|Reliable|3.5WT
SVD 200m|8|8D/14AP 7.62x54mmR|10+1(Box)|1RoF|Longshot, Reliable|4.5WT

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>>53151460
FAMAS F1
Rifle
Range 100m
TN7
5.56mm
25 (Box)
RoF 30
Brace [1]
Weight 3.5

FAMAS G2/Herstal "Trumpet" Compact Rifle
Rifle
Range 100m
TN7
5.56mm
30(box)
RoF 35
Brace [1]
Weight 3.5

5.56x45mm NATO
6 DAM/14 AP

http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/48673997/
This thread also has a metric asston of 70s weapons.

>>53149155
I do think quilt's complete lack of drawbacks might do to be reconsidered.
But, I'm not sure how. Linen wasn't as abundant earlier in the medieval era, but past that, there would have to be reasons why quilt wasn't more.
I do wonder if it shouldn't have a higher Wt score, or in many cases, a Wt score at all.

>>53151957
Butter / 10

Jimmy Rome pls answer

Favorite Anime
Favorite Class in D&D (any edition)
Favorite Battletech Faction
Favorite 40k Army
Favorite Movie
Favorite TV show (non-anime)
Favorite color
Favorite food
Favorite drink
Favorite 19th century philosopher
Favorite sword
Favorite polearm
Favorite rifle

>>53147788
>Lemmy needed a vodka IV
Godspeed, you crazy bastard.

What would be the capability of a top 5% warrior in terms of creating them?
I'm doing a 2 man campaign where both are disgraced commanders on a road to vengeance, and I'm struggling to imagine guidelines for them.

New thread?

>>53156968

>Favorite Anime
LOTGH, followed closely by Outlaw Star.

>Favorite Class in D&D (any edition)
Sorcerer.

>Favorite Battletech Faction
Clans, Jade Falcon. IS, House Marik.

>Favorite 40k Army
Imperial Guard. They call it something gay now.

>Favorite Movie
Dogville.

>Favorite TV show (non-anime)
Horatio Hornblower.

>Favorite color
Teal.

>Favorite food
Sushi. I always order a Chirashi.

>Favorite drink
Tequila Slammer.

>Favorite 19th century philosopher
Schelling.

>Favorite sword
1796 Light Cavalry Saber.

>Favorite polearm
Those retarded Chinese crescent-halberds.

>Favorite rifle
SMLE Mk III. Bongs really know how to design a bolt operation handle. Most comfortable thing I've ever done.

>>53158656
Yes,

New thread

>>53160083
>>53160083
>>53160083