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Fantasy Flight Games’ X-Wing and Star Wars: Armada Miniatures Games
>http://pastebin.com/Wca6HvBB

Fantasy Flight Games’ Star Wars RPG System (EotE/AoR/FaD)
>http://pastebin.com/wCRBdus6
>https://mega.nz/#!DkNTDTyZ!PUupCOep4RmRcsgI3rNhU_Pk_xcyFbYWnhrq8gwrVv0

Shipfag's Starship Combat Fixes for EotE/AoR/FaD
>http://www.mediafire.com/file/y9w713etmckbs98/Shipfag.JPG

Other Fantasy Flight Games Star Wars Tabletop (Imperial Assault, Star Wars: Destiny and the Star Wars LCG)
>http://pastebin.com/ZE4gn0yN

Fantasy Flight Games Dice App (Works with X-Wing, Armada, the Star Wars RPG system and Imperial Assault)
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/64xy3uy6vepll8v/com.fantasyflightgames.swdice.ver.1.1.4.build.9.apk

Older Star Wars Tabletop (d6, d20/Saga, etc.)
>http://pastebin.com/wXP0LdyJ

Reference Materials & Misc. Resources
>http://pastebin.com/AGFFkSin

All Canon Novels and Comics (via /co/)
>https://mega.co.nz/#F!2R5kDTqQ!WfrDla-jvDIn05U57T9hhQ

Just What IS Canon Anyways?
>http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Canon#2014_reboot
>http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_of_canon_media

The Clone Wars Viewing Guide
>http://img.4plebs.org/boards/tg/image/1442/36/1442364889994.png

Writefaggotry
>http://pastebin.com/cJY5FK9T

Shipfag's hangar
>https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0ByhAdnTlOKOeQnA4SFByUC1aQWM&usp=sharing

Heroes of the Aturi Cluster, co-op X-Wing campaign
>http://dockingbay416.com/campaign
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>>53063603
/swg/ Bingo
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>>53063603

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-UN6uRMBRw
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>>53063394
Is that part of your winnings?
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I have a fun Idea for an EotE start-up campaign and would like to ask /tg/ a question to help fill it out.

For all those on /swg/ who have played EotE go ahead and list your top 5 party ships from best to worst. So no limitations as far as cost, rarity, or era, just what you think are the 5 best ships for an EotE group. this is completely subjective and I don't expect everyone will list the same 5 ships. Just want your input.
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>>53064189
Just shit people are giving out.

I'm 2-1 in IA. Just barely beat Luke and rebel Troopers.
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I need maps! Maps for star wars games I can tun online!
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>>53057498
>>53057390
I have rewritten the 1d4chan page on Armada, because it was shit, and now it is slightly less shit.

I assume that of the other four people ITT that play Armada approximately nobody cares about 1d4chan, but if not, feel free to give it a once over and lemme know if there's anything that could be better.

I didn't touch any of the ship/upgrade stuff at the bottom because I was worried doing so would give me AIDS, so ignore all that.
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>>53064208
There's only one ship to rank. The Wayfarer. Detachable cargo pods that let your pilot and party have all sorts of dumb fun if he can handle piloting a space brick. It's weird, it's goofy, it's unique in a sea of YT-Whatevers, and it's actually cheap enough for an EotE group to start with.
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>>53064208

#1 E-9 Explorer
#2 Gozanti
#3 Decimator
#4 HWK-290
#5 Lambda Shuttle

Note, this is all personal experience. I would presume that upgraded versions like a Sentinel, C-ROC and HWK-1000 would possibly rate better than their normal versions but I've never had play with them on the table.

Also the Lambda was specifically in an all AoR game, if that's excluded, sub in the GR-75.
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>>53064210
So much Heaver related stuff there?

Also, question- How old is heaver?

In that image on the card, he looks in his late 20's. In the coruscant invitational draft video, he looks like he's 45.
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>>53064208
I haven't played EotE enough to have 5 favorite ships (and I usually stay as far from ship rules as I can) but we had a campaign where we piloted two dual seat Y-wings. It was neat znd solved the usual issue of half the party doing nothing during space combat.
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>>53064208
#1 Party ship is making your own for the campaign
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>>53064208
How big of a party? Playing what kind of game?
My top 5 for privateering would be vastly different from smuggling from exploring from bounty hunting
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>>53064654
Try the multi-role ship list.

Personally I'd like to hear all of them.
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>>53064520
Deathsticks.

Not even once.
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>>53053353

Can't be her, she's voicing Hera.
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Everyone enjoying fake fans day?
Qui-Gon Joe
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>>53064962
Whoops, nevermind, Hera voiced her in Outcast, the FMV actress was someone else.
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>>53065041
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>>53065041
I picked up the vidya collection off of steam. I plan on nostalgia tripping through the jedi knight series
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>>53065057
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>>53064170
This is our campaigns theme at the moment.

Gotta get to work on fixing our recordings so we can put together the podcast.
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>>53065074
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>>53065090
This one's my favorite
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>>53065041
Yeah I bought a bunch of the good nucanon books, a new Star Wars Tie Fighter Tie and a SH Figarts Vader to go with my Luke.
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>>53065105
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>>53065124
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>>53065142

I prefer this one.
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>>53065124
>Not using Space Balls Yogurt.
shiggydiggydoo
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>>53064391
Looks like shit. Slow as shit. How would you look like a hotshot smuggler when you role up in the ups truck of space ships
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>>53064208
I have such a soft spot for both the YT-2400 and the HWK-290/1000.
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>>53064208
YT-Series
Ghtroc 720
Loronar E-9
HWK-290/1000
Wayfarer (for parties that the ship is more of a set piece than a vehicle)
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>>53065194
>someone laughs at your Wayfarer
>you laugh back
>they ask why you're laughing
>you just detached the module with inertial thrust and a retro-engine
>the heavily reinforced durasteel module
>that's packing a rancor
>and it just slammed into their hull

Hotshot smugglers burn up quick. Let them keep their YT-Shits. Wayfarer crews are a different breed. We're goddamn space trucker outlaws, and you don't want to know what's sitting in this week's module.

Is it a retro-fitted hangerbay holding some fighters? Is it a habitation module for a boring old transport run? Is it a specially converted cargo module that some jackass conservationist sent you schematics for to haul some endangered xenofauna to a game reserve? Is it a reinforced brick of death that you're dropping off mid-flight and in-atmo above backwater Imperial outpost as a suicidal means of shuttling down hot? Is it the abandoned module filled to the brim with spice or some other illicit valuable that was detached in an asteroid belt and never reclaimed?
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>>53064247
>>53063603
I'm looking to get into Armada, and I'd like some help with making a list.

I know I want an ISD to be the centerpiece of the list, and then a set of smaller triangles of the same type (Raiders/Victories/Interdictors/etc). I'd also prefer for the list to be 'symmetrical', in that most ships/squadrons would be taken in groups of more than 1.

Does that work as a list? How important are Titles in armada? Since those are unique, I can't run something like 2 gladiators with Demolisher.

so /swg/ can you help me make a purchase list for Armada after core and ISD?
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>>53065080

You too?
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>>53065358
Yeah buddy.

My Rebel players are still reeling from a major attack from the Imperials and are going for a full scale attack on them soon, setting up a trap within an asteroid belt using ion canons and modified thrusters attached to smaller asteroids.

They basically have to keep the new Grand Moff and his SSD from getting to Endor. Its going to be bloody and long fought.
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>>53065318
>Drop the cargo bay in some crazy balls-to-the-walls move
>Succeed at mission but damage the bay
>Production is discontinued because they couldn't get enough cargo companies to use their proprietary crate for their ship

Have fun being half a man after that
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TLJ features a casino world.
Nar Shaddaa?
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>>53065761
I'm willing to bet it's going to be that world Leia and Ransom went to in Bloodline.
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>>53065634
>doesn't see that as the opportunity for another adventure
>backstabbing some rebels who are using it as an assault shuttle, getting your hands dirty and repairing it yourself though after making backroom deals with shady sorts for crucial parts, or tracking down a dead smuggler's legendary module somewhere out in the Tobali system
The module getting busted is nothing more than a chance to do something fresh. Ship's getting busted and needing repairs is a story beat you even find in the movies.
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>>53065761
No. It's been named already - Canto Blight - and Nar Shaddaa isn't really a casino world anyway.
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>>53065237
>Wayfarer (for parties that the ship is more of a set piece than a vehicle)
This is spot-fucking-on, by the way. And for everyone, have some expanded rules for the Wayfarer for use in FFG, along with some modern deckplans that fix the hilariously incorrect scale in the old WEG pic.
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So I just recently got into X-wing and was reading the 1d4chan article on it. It says the T-65 x-wing is overpriced now compared to other shit, which honestly I don't care much about, I'm not going to be playing it competitively. But in the future when I play a little more seriously with friends, would house ruling their cost down a little bit help them? And what would you guys think is a good cost for them?
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>>53065962
Keep them at their price. Learn formation flying and nuke anything with your 12-16 red dice
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>>53065962
It's hard to fix by just adjusting the price. what needs to happen is the introduction of a title for the T-65b with the same effect of the Chardaan Refit. The problem that arises in any situation that makes the T-65b cheaper is that it makes Biggs better and he's OP as it is.

>1d4chan
Please don't.
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>>53065962

I mean, if you're just going to play more seriously just git gud.

Flying better will let you beat people using just about any ship, and T-65 has great pilot selection and good upgrade selection - it just suffers from being designed first in a game that didn't know what it was gonna be like like 5 years later.
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>>53066025
>>53066041
I fully intend to play them at their current price, I was just curious after reading about it.

>>53066041
Have a better place to read about it? I'd rather not visit reddit.
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>>53066170
>Have a better place to read about it? I'd rather not visit reddit.
There's not a ton of great places to read about it in my experience. IMO the meta shifts really fast so a lot of stuff gets outdated fast.
My main resources for learning about stuff are either by playing myself or Youtube.
I've got a podcast focused on helping beginners into rebels, but I don't wanna shill too hard so just scroll up or CTRL+F for "podcast" and you'll find my link.
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>>53066041
>le 1d4chan is bad meme
Do us all a favor and jettison yourself out of an airlock
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>>53066221
1d4chan is pretty bad. NONE of it's tactics pages are accurate and it gives newfags license to spout shitty memes instead of lurking.
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>>53066253
You are wrong asshole. The tactics page for everything bar Scum is fine. And memes what the fuck? Are you seriously getting ass devasted by memes on 4chan of all places!?!?
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2-2, lost a really close game to Vinto, Onar, 2x eQuays, eGammorreans, Gideon, and 3PO.

IA tournies are fun.
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I just bought both the KOTOR games off Steam for pretty cheap.

What am I in for?
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>>53066323
Better luck next time
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>>53066323
You did what very few of us could have anon.

You have brought DARK GREETINGS to the doorstep of the mouse.
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>>53066348
Fun, good story, negative comments from haters
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>>53066348
Clear misinterpretation of Lucas's vision of the force, but a somewhat fun story.

Play maleRevan for top tier waifu, play femRevan for nagging but sweet husbando
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>>53066348
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How does Duty work?
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>>53066374
And what is Lucas vision of the force?
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Armada Squadron question. Using the squadron shooting/moving ruler thing can a squadron stop BETWEEN numbers or does it have to be on the exact edge of said number? Say I want my tie fighter to move and stay right in the middle of range 2 and 3 can I do that or must I stop at 3?
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As I recall you don't have to go the full distance.
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>>53066552
There is no light side of the force, there is the Dark side, and there is the force.

Imagine a ton of steel and a ton of feathers on the same scale. This is how the force is at balance. The darkside is a natural thing that on it's own and contained is relatively harmless (see Dathomir Witches).

When you have dickbag sith lords going around and causing pain and suffering throughout the Galaxy, throw on another ton of steel and you throw the force off balance.

KoTOR goes full +100 and -100 points with emphasis on Gray.
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>>53066400
>Shovel Knight has sold 1 million copies
>NieR: Automata has sold 1 million copies
Really places those old numbers in perspective.
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>>53066635
I am not an expert, but I have never seen anyone play it in any other way than the stop where you want method.
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>>53066635
You must stop at 3.
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>>53066833
>You must stop at 3.
>stop at 3
>33
WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
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>>53066854
KotOR 3 is in the works
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>>53066867
>KOTOR 3
>In Bioware's current state
Pls no.
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>>53066854
It was a warning from the future come to late.

Lucasfilm was to stop making Star Wars movies after episode 3.
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>>53066876
Its going to be made with additional help from the battlefront team :^)
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So have we found our Frida Mofette?
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>>53066876
Don't be a bigot. Mass Effect Andromeda is a masterpiece. Truly, $40 million and 5 years well-spent!
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How would you guys feel about a "KotNR" that is set a few years after RotJ and many years before TFA.
The game is about you generating a create-a-Jedi apprentice to train under, and do odd jobs for, Luke Skywalker?
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>>53066734
Well Lucas vision isn't canon anymore my friend.
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>>53067052
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>>53067075
Actually, a significant portion of it is. They've repeatedly made statements to that effect, that certain things in the new canon are the way they are because that's how George preferred them.
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>>53067075
That isn't true anon.
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>>53067062
>Create-a-Jedi
And how convenient, we've already got a sidekick for him.
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>>53067062
So Jedi Academy with shit lore?
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>>53067052
I hope they never get to live this down, it is that much of a fiasco
I've seen SFM lewds with better facial animation done in a virgins moms basement.
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>>53067107
If they're going for a western RPG then probably worse combat mechanics, better dialogue options, and more exploration than Jedi Academy.

>>53067102
They need to canonize him.
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>>53067102
>great RPG
>top tier choices in waifu and husbando
>great choice in decisions
>excellent villain
>God tier dialogue
>Choice in what ship you use

BUT...

Rosh must be an unkillable companion who must accompany you on all missions.
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>>53067148
>>53067141
Fug Masder Gadarn amirite guise :DDDDD
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>>53067062
Only in legends.
So no
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>>53067099
>>53067101
It is about the force. There is a definite light side and dark side and now it is possible to wield so there's that.
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>>53067337
There is no proof of your statement, only conjecture and fan theory.
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>>53066876
Which Bioware? The off brand who made MEA or vanilla team who made ME1-3?
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>>53067364
The one that did Inquisition.
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>>53067353
You were saying?
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>>53067399
>he trusts the Doctor
Oh anon. You make me laugh.
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>>53067399
>the Bendu
>not a fucking insane darkside user
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>>53067399
He's a dark sider with delusions, same as every so-called greysider
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>>53067413
>>53067482
>>53067534
Who is the one spouting headcanon now?
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>>53067627
Show me where in canon it is clearly stated there is a middle besides from the Bendu, who often plays word games with Kanan and then proceeds to become an envoy of death.
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is http://xwing-builder.co.uk/ down or not working for anyone else?
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>>53067482
>>53067534
>darksider
>becomes one with the force at death
Pick one autists.
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>>53067627
Look at what he does the moment he gets crossed. He fucking starts killing everything in his path with lightning and storms and shit. That's not a "light side" thing by any stretch of the imagination.

His idea of balance is to stay the fuck out of conflict. And once he's involved? He goes full dark side.
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>>53067685
>death
You think he died?
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>>53067678
He was attacking the idiots that brought death and destruction to his home. I know you humans kill cockroaches that invade your home
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>>53067685
He clearly used the ancient technique of shrinking.

>>53067745
Roaches are not Sapient beings, that only reinforces how he is darkside
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X-wing question, does critical damage not reduce your hull points? Reading the rules it seems it only does whatever the card says and does not add a point of hull damage like a regular damage hit.

Neat, if correct.
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>>53067697
>You allow bunch of mice start squatting in your home placing their shit everywhere. All of a sudden they lead a bunch of tigers and shit to your house and they start wrecking everything.
Who wouldn't be pissed?
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>>53067774
Critical damage reduces your hull. every damage card on a ship, whether face-up or face down, counts as damage against your hull.
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>>53067779
The European Union?
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>>53067819
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Finished up 2-3, got clowned by last year's runner up. Still, 2 wins was my goal and I had fun.
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>>53067845
good job! 2 wins at worlds is still huge
Way more excited to hear about your x-wing matches
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>>53067774
>>53067798
There's also the handy "this card means hull damage" icon for visual reinforcement.
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>three Rieekan aceholes and one Ackbar MC80 list made top four

Hopefully Wave 6 fixes Rieekan somehow because fuck.
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>>53068171
Ackbar mc80 is still a thing?
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>>53068208
The list was a tricked out MC80 and four flotillas, with Shara/Jan Ors and a bunch of VCXs.

So apparently, yes.

People on the forum are saying that almost *half* of the players brought some form of acehole list, so by comparison, the fact that an MC80 list made top four is really impressive.
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>>53068252
Oh shit. I got to get my fleet back together
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>>53065326
Those are kind of weird restrictions but sure.
ISD, 2x TRC Arquittens, 2x Flotilla with Vader, sprinkle squads to taste.

>How important are Titles in armada? Since those are unique, I can't run something like 2 gladiators with Demolisher.
Titles are pretty important, but almost every ship has at least two. You could run ISD/Demolisher GSD/Insidious GSD, for example. Doing so would be more fun than the alternative, because it means your two symmetrical ships would play very differently.

Obviously limited yourself to symmetry is going to be weird and awkward but it's not a huge deal, especially if you're willing to take just a single Gozanti at times.

The only real caveat is that you need to be okay with aces. Playing without any aces would be... an interesting form of suffering.

>>53068171
The MC80 was eliminated, so the final round is a Rieekan Acehole / Gallant Hell mirror match.
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>>53068393
>The MC80 was eliminated, so the final round is a Rieekan Acehole / Gallant Hell mirror match.

Correction: Pic related.
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>>53068041
>>53067798
Ah, I see. Thanks!
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>>53065057
Huh
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>>53064452
Unimpeachable taste.
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>>53068393
To clarify what I meant about symmetrical, I mostly meant that if it's not the ISD, that I would have at least 2 of it.

So 2 arq, 2 flotilla? Would a pair of raiders/gladiators/victories be viable?
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>>53067062
Creating a character that you get attached through an RPG knowing that they get slaughtered by Kylo Ren's Ginyu Force doesn't have much of an appeal.

Thanks, JJ
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>>53068664
>So 2 arq, 2 flotilla? Would a pair of raiders/gladiators/victories be viable?
Well, Armada is pretty wide open. You're not gonna win worlds with those lists, but you can certainly win a local store tournament (unless there's somebody really good in your area).

Most of the time you're going to want 4 or 5 ships, so ISD + 2 of something + either 1 or 2 flotillas, usually. ISD + 2 GSDs, 2 Arquittens, or 2 VSDs can all work. I haven't played against an ISD 2 Raider list, but I have heard of such a thing doing well.

Like I said, Aces will make or break you. If you're fine with taking one-off aces, then yeah, you'll do fine. The ISD, GSD, Raider, Arquittens, and VSDs are good ships that can work in most conceivable configurations.
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>>53068709
Just do what I did for the Jedi in my party. After the GCW campaign they had a difference of opinion with Luke.

The Jedi had a vision of what was to happen to Ben and warned Luke. But Luke believed he could save him just like he could save his father and ignored the characters warning, which made the Character leave the order and take up a job from Leia to run New Alderaan. It opened a plot hook for the new PCs to have a mentor Character while still staying on the timeline proper.
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>>53068797
How's the Raider in Armada?
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>>53068709
>implying you cant go full sith murder hobo and join the kylo
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>>53066734
No, there is a Light and Dark side. The Force is very much a Yin and Yang.
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>>53068855
Kylo Ren isn't a Sith nooblord
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>>53068879
Anon, please read up on your lore because the force doesn't work that way.
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>>53068828
It's pretty good. It's a cheap and fast small ship. It has black dice and weapons / ordnance / offensive upgrade slots, so it can be extremely lethal at close range.

Most often though, it's kitted out as a dedicated anti-squadron flack ship, which it excels at. It's got a very awkward movement chart too, so it's tricky to fly.
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>>53068909
No, it actually does, and I don't care what Disney has to say about it.
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>>53068709
Could go the Kojima route. Maybe the PC, Kyle Katarn, and a small number of survivors manage to evacuate during the endgame, vow revenge, and set up a sequel hook for when they join/found an anti-FO militia. Alternately, the PC was away on a mission/vacation/combat jack while Kylo Ren did his thing.
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>>53068928
Then you are already lost.

This was what Lucas believed of the force, feel free to deny it, but the current Voice of God will not be on your side.
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>>53068928
Even in Legends, there wasn't really a "light side." There was the Force, and there was the dark side.

That much hasn't changed. The only difference is that much of the "light" symbolism and "light" related powers are no longer canon.

It was always that the Force was a thing, and the dark side was a perversion of that thing.
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>>53068912
Nice. I'll have to add this to my collection then
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>>53068938
I dig that idea, plus it gives the GM a chance to develop a completely new or underdeveloped region of space to their liking.

Tion Hegemony works nice as a quiet backwater frontier.
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>>53068980
I almost exclusively play rebels so I'm a bit biased, but the raider is a ship I'm really jealous of.

It's basically half an MC30 / GSD for half the cost. Except it can also instead run a silly / awesome anti-squadron build, for which both of its titles are excellent.
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Hey guys, I am soon going to be playing as an old tactical droid that has delusions of trying to bring back the CIS. What I need is a war chant/song of some sorts that is related to droids or technology that I can play for my character, but I can't find anything so far. What do you guys think my old droid should be playing when he is making the Confederacy rise again?
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>>53068912

Is it just normal FFG procedure not to leave arcs blank on a ship unless it's a real nogunz - because really the Raider has like dick-all to shoot behind it.
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>>53068956
>>53068968
You guys are wrong. There is light and dark side in Disney canon. Whether there are light/dark side powers if up for debate.
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>>53069112
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cM_sAxrAu7Q
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>>53069112
>What I need is a war chant/song of some sorts that is related to droids or technology that I can play for my character, but I can't find anything so far. What do you guys think my old droid should be playing when he is making the Confederacy rise again?

There's obviously only one answer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_vNhLYW_e4

>>53069127
Pic related, unless you consider this a nogunz, which is reasonable.

Mentally, I take it as "some of those side guns can kinda swivel, which is why it gets some but not all its side dice", but whatever. I care more about the game than about the fluff.
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>>53069168

I'm pretty sure regular GRs are actually nogunz, in X-Wing for instance the GR-75 has no primary weapon value AND no hardpoints to mount secondary weapons. Closest you get is filling the cargo holds with slicer tools and cluster bombs.
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>>53069127

That's a standard thing on a lot of ships. Rear arcs tend to be bare compared to others. It's not really a FFG thing so much as how ships tend to be designed. It's how Thrawn got Zaarin if I remember right. The tactical patch over it is to just direct a few fighters to that position or use a smaller ship.
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>>53069112
>Make the Confederacy rise again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-s51B66Sl4
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>>53069141
No one has said there was no such thing as the dark side.

But it's not a "side". It's a corruption.

The idea that there isn't light/dark side specific abilities in canon is also not up for debate, considering we've seen things that are openly stated to be specific things that dark siders can't do (Force ghosts), that are specific rituals associated with the dark side (what Palpatine and Dooku were doing to Yoda in the last arc of TCW), and there are things that light siders won't do (lightning, ripping the Living Force out of people to power themselves or others up).
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>>53069217
Yes, the cheaper GR-75 has no anti-ship dice whatsoever.
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>>53069289
>light-siders won't do lightning
>laughingplosbros.jpg
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>>53069220

I'm asking if FFG is being kind to the raider (or ships in general) by giving it rear arc dice, or if that's just normal for most ships in Armada. By their own admission in the RPG for instance it doesn't have any thing which can hit the rear arc, nor do it's firing arcs cover the rear in XWM.

This personally is why I think the Raider's a bit dodgy as an anti-fighter design (along with no ventral coverage), but that's just a personal taste. Probably.
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>>53069289
>dark side is evil and corrupts
>forced moral binary
>implying that isn't retarded and makes any sense

Here we go again.
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>>53069334
>I'm asking if FFG is being kind to the raider (or ships in general) by giving it rear arc dice, or if that's just normal for most ships in Armada.

Every ship in Armada has dice in every arc except for the GR75.
>>53069168
>>53069296
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>>53069318
I said in canon. Plo hasn't done any of that shit except in Legends.

>>53069349
Don't even fucking start. The dark side has always been depicted as evil, at the very least it is predatory and bestial. The two prime examples of those using it from the movies are a literal fallen paladin and an evil wizard who is all about turning people against each other, and corrupting what he can.
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This is such a slow game so far... both players being super cautious.

I think Norm's overextended Yavaris, though. It's getting a bit aways from Gallant Haven and all the squadrons clinging to it.
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>>53069334

Lack of ventral coverage is also a common design flaw in imperial ships. On carriers that's where a lot of their fighters come from. It's mostly Corellian designs that have top and bottom guns but that's basically it. FFG is probably being kinder though. The Lancer has good rear arc coverage but it's bigger and those guns are essentially never modeled on. The IPV-1 has dorsal and ventral guns, but they're more or less forward locked due to turret design seen on the model, regardless of what the system actually says.

In MY experience in non FFG settings you need to account for the fact that most ships are going to be rolling and maneuvering on their own. Then you acknowledge that multiple raiders can cover each other effectively and the problem largely goes away if you deploy them as a line instead of one lone one, which is how the empire actually deploys them.

I don't think anything smaller than a Vigil Corvette, who's design actually gives it guns that can rotate to hit the rear, is ever employed alone. Even then conceptually speaking outside of the edges of the outer rim Imperial II class frigates operating in pairs are USUALLY the preferred minimum, and you have six to twelve squadrons of fighters in those arrangements.
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>>53069498
But Nathan is flying in a completely bizarre direction. I have no fucking clue what these two are doing.

Guess this is why I'm not at worlds.
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>>53069512

Well, at least the imperial version of the Arquitens has dorsal and ventral quads, which appear to be turreted so they could possibly fire to the rear. That's actual Lucasfilm work, but still a step in the right direction. Of course the Arquitens is a Light Cruiser which can actually hold like a half-flight of docked fighters.

Rebels also shows an ISD's giant barbette turbolaser assemblies firing backward - though that also is dorsal only.

My complaint with the Raider is that FFG (especially early) marketed it as a sort of "long range fighter killer" doing missions with only a couple of rare hyperspace fighters with it. It really is not configured like a solo act, and maybe in the sense it could be a scary hyperspace ambusher but it just feels like a ship which is actually more grounded in normal corvette duties to like, patrol as part of a larger fleet or maybe a static location. Of course FFG originally wanted a Lancer but it was out of scale so maybe that colored their writing a little.

And also it means you can terrify players without telling them to just die by having a Lancer show up because all angle quad laser coverage is rough.
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Does anyone have *non-Star Wars* music that's still suitable for Star Wars games? Stuff that sounds like it could be in the soundtrack but isn't.

I'm working on a blog post called "Star Wars Gaming Music For Lazy People"
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>>53069749
Ive got a ton of anime osts that I use for speeches and space battles.
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>>53069349
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>>53069318
>>53069349
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>>53069694

The only time we see them in canon thus far, and they have no EU appearances, is when an admiral has half a dozen of them backing a destroyer as escorts, and when they're basically used to ferry Special Forces back and forth. Which is, to be fair, equivalent to what Twilight Company usually has give or take a bit.

As a general adjustment to the order of battle, I'd say two raiders could equal an Arquitens in the same sense that two Strike Cruisers could equal a Victory Destroyer. A realistic deployment outside resource strapped outer rim postings is two or three of them backed by three assault carriers holding a squadron of TIE fighters. That's basically what you see on an equivalent deployment in rebels.

Just keep the assault carriers deployed behind the raider corvettes to cover the blind spots while TIE's maneuver. The Raiders could split up to flank on their own as well.

That's enough to fuck up any smaller rebel convoy, but also intercept a decent sized strike force.
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>>53069802
>anime osts

I mean, I'm fairly sure that wouldn't... work. I'm not saying it's wrong or bad or anything, but the styles are very, very different.
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>>53069749
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHVsszW7Nds
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>>53069872
Nah, ton of instrumentals that are intense and convey purpose.

I'm not talking doki doki love highschool music, I'm talking something more like Sawano's works like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZppgTRoYFs
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>>53069820
>tfw someone saved my shitty diagram from seven hundred threads ago
The Sithposting never stops, does it?
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>>53069994
God that picture makes me sad
Both having read the comic and the context
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>>53069994
Nope. Always gonna be someone who doesn't understand the concepts of the force.
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>>53067377
>Inquisition levels of lore rape
>Completely broken combat
>In a triple AAA Star wars game
Would this finally kill the wounded, shambling wreck that is modern bioware?
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>>53069994
>that image

fuck I didn't need this
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>>53070022
>>53070057
So what're you going to do about it?
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>>53070076
drink more alcohol
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>>53070022
Hold up, you have the original sauce for meme girl's descent into cynical adulthood? Can you share it? I need some catharsis in my life right now.
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>>53070033
No, you don't seem to understand it, and are yet another person trying to force simplistic, binary morality where it doesn't fit.
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>>53070022
>>53070100
The artstyle vaguely screams "Rape Manga" to me.
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>>53070114
Please get a trip so I can filter you
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God damn I can't wait till TLJ blows the fuck out of Darkside is cancer fags forever.
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>>53070135
Seconded
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>>53070142
USING the Dark Side as your way of tapping the force is cancer, the emotions that lead to it are not.
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>>53070167
This anon gets it
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>>53070142
>implying I give a shit about sequel-canon after JJ and friends put both barrels through its kneecaps
If Lucasfilm can turn out two decent movies after TFA locked them into Rebels vs Empire 2: Rehash Boogaloo I'll be pleasantly surprised.
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>>53069911
Not bad but 2 problems. Honestly, the only problem is the choral bits and the drums. The rest is pretty workable.

Star Wars doesn't use drums
>http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Drum

Ok, well, I should have specified. Williams doesn't use drums to set tempo in quite the same way. There are drums (of course), especially for marches, but they're... voiceless drums. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D0ZQPqeJkk

(I'm trying to explain this for non-musicians because I am one)

Also, choral music. Outside of the Prequels (and I'm pretty sure, even then it's only a few pieces like Duel of the Fates), only the Emperor gets choral music. And his goes likehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLvcrsbliOo

No, wait, no. Wrong track. Its' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eC6OKIYXBxQ

Nope, not that one either. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wkp80PB4PkA&feature=youtu.be&t=73
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>>53070100
>>53070130
Its a series called ReLife
The main character is a guy who has a cynical descent

I think its getting an anime
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>>53070167
We will see on Dec 25
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>>53070231
Pretty autistic, but I get what you mean.
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>>53070088
Not sure that's going to work out long term.
Also, ignore the bait folks. You're better than this.
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>>53070236
prove it
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>>53070279
What
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>>53070142
>>53070236
>m-my boyfriend Kylo isn't a miserable failure of a human, he's just unfairly persecuted by Lightsidefags
Stop identifying with self-destructive fictional ideologies and you'll probably have a better life, anon.
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>>53070310
Kylo's stalker is a Cancer denier?
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>>53070135
>>53070154
>best way to win an argument is to ignore the other side
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>>53070256
>Pretty autistic, but I get what you mean.

Well, no offense, but you're the one recommending anime battle music. This isn't the pot calling the kettle black. This is the kettle calling another kettle a kettle.

And anyway, if I'm going to write a helpful guide to using music, I've gotta think about this stuff.

Things like "Why does this pieces of music not work for Star Wars https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7v8zxoEoA_Q , while this piece does https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUmq1cpcglQ ?"
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>>53070328
I don't care about winning. I'm not even arguing a side, I just don't want to see your posts anymore, you annoying shit.
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>>53070328
It's not an argument when god literally tells you how life is.

>>53070333
No, I didn't mean that offensively anon, I merely meant it as oddly specific and structured.
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>>53070358
Jarjar is the key to all of this.
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>>53069749
You can never go wrong with the Ace Combat soundtracks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1Qkzj5bStU
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>>53070395
You mean the man who gave Palpatine the Emergency powers and lead to the creation of the first... galactic... EMPIREEEEEEE?

Yeah Jar Jar wasn't important at all.
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>>53070358
>No, I didn't mean that offensively anon, I merely meant it as oddly specific and structured.

Ah, the word you wanted was "organized", got it.

>>53070409
Pretty much all the points from:>>53070231
apply, with the added penalty of "has a chorus'. Don't want to discourage though. Thanks for posting!
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>>53070395
>he doesn't get Lucas humor
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sure is /co/ in here tonight...
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>>53070500
Just give a DARK GREETINGS and /co/shitposters will go
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>>53070500
At least it isn't /tv/ or space/pol/
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>>53070528
>>53070500
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>>53070528
Little did you know, Calrissian, that we were playing sabacc with INFRARED CARDS THE WHOLE TIME
AAAAAAA HA HA HA HA
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What have you done to further the goals of the first order today anon?
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>>53070669
i came on my sister's butt
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>>53070653
Ah you got me... except... you seem to forget we were playing Pazaak and it looks like I have a pure Pazaak in hand.
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>>53070669
I recently carried out a preventative strike on First Order trade lines and took down a good amount of bucketheads

Feels good man.
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>>53070669

Teaching girl stormies about what an X-Wing pilot's dick looks like, how about you?
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>>53070669
Teaching Kylo Ren how a real Jedi uses a lightsaber.

the lightsaber is my penis
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>>53070793

It's canonical that even Imperial chicks want to bang X-Wing jocks.
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How to best play rebel commandos in AoR?
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>>53070846
Lost Stars proved this canon
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>>53070395
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>>53068797
Yeah, i'm OK with taking 1-off aces.

If I was going ISD 2+VSD, what would I add to that?

What about ISD+2 Raider?
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>>53066734
The Bendu was Lucas' idea. As was Mortis.

Make of that what you will.
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>>53071100
Idiots don't think that Lucas doesn't change his mind from time to time. He isn't Oda.
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>>53071100
Fairly certain the Bendu was not actually George's idea (unless you can source something saying it was).

The Mortis arc's general ideas were his, but the whole point of that arc was that it was an allegory of I-VI, and the idea of balance wasn't that the two needed to be equal. In fact, when the Son got the same freedom as the Daughter, he immediately started wrecking everything.

Not to mention that the Mortis arc is literally a vision. They're no more real than the Darth Vader that Luke encounters in the cave under the tree on Dagobah in ESB is real. Luke had an experience there, but he didn't actually fight Vader there.

Likewise, Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Ahsoka had an experience at Mortis, but they didn't actually meet and fight godlike personifications of the Force there.
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>>53071151
I was slightly wrong. He's directly inspired by George's idea, but wasn't directly created by George.

>DAVE: I had a lot of discussions with George about the Force and a lot of that stemmed out of our discussions for Mortis that a lot of it dealt with our discussions on the characters that were the kind of multi-personality being that Yoda finds, the Priestesses in the end of The Clone Wars. And so we were really getting into the nature of the Force as being the cosmic Force and the living Force and what that all means. And so Bendu for me is an extension of those conversations I had with George. And I’m trying to really get down in the story lore a lot of the things he and I talked about. So he wasn’t a character we talked about, but I knew there was opportunity for a character like that. Once you get beyond the concept of the Jedi and the Sith where kind of religion’s working using the Force, there is the Force itself which exists all around us. It’s just life itself. And the balance of the Force never speaks in terms of destroying one side or the other. That’s an attitude we put on it saying okay, the light must vanquish the dark and the dark wants to stop the light. Those are imbalances, which nature corrects all the time.
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>>53071253
Cancerfags BTFO
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>>53071353
What are you talking about, that is literally describing Dark side cancer
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>>53071503
No it isn't get some reading comprehension kid
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>>53071353
>>53071503
The Light and Dark are necessary and vital to each other. The Force is not an entity with morality or even true sentience. It's a mystical force (gettit) of nature that seeks to naturally balance itself out with no regard for who or what follows or taps into it.
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I keep getting my shit kicked in by Vessery+Omega Leader lists
>try to shoot at OL, can't modify and have to get through 3g+evade token on 4 health
>try to shoot at Vessery, have to shoot through 3g on 6 health
>while trying that the pair plus whatever the third ship is basically delete one of my ships per turn, almost always before it gets to shoot
Vessery being basically a strictly superior and also cheaper Corran Horn pisses me off and the combination of juke and disallowing mods feels like broken bullshit. What the fuck can I do about this as a Rebel player short of just running some big ship build for ridiculous alpha strike like Rey or a VCX with Finn?
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>>53071841

Black One.
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>>53069749
>>53069802
>>53069888
>>53070409
>>53070466
>>53070333
>>53070256

It's done.

Ever wanted to run a Star Wars game with a soundtrack? This might help.

https://coinsandscrolls.blogspot.ca/2017/05/star-wars-choosing-music.html
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>>53071841
Shoot OL with whatever isn't locked.

Shoot Vessery with homing missiles or just stress/block him.
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>>53070231
What makes a Drum voiceless?
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How viable is it in EotE to fight with a melee weapon besides a vibroaxe or a lightsaber?
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>>53072085
Vibrogreatsword also works.
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>>53072033
Ok, this is going to get a little weird. Imagine if each instrument was a person talking.

The Star Wars main theme is a great example. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D0ZQPqeJkkRight off the bat, the trumpets are doing most of the talking. There are drums - quite a lot of drums - but they are supporting and helping the main voice of the music, not speaking alongside.

But in >>53069911
The violins (syth-violins) and the drums are speaking at the same time. It's like the violins are saying something and every few words the drums are going "yeah!". The drums have a major part. That doesn't happen in Star Wars. The drums never get to take centre stage. Flute, oboe, violin, and trumpet get top billing.

Sorry I can't offer much more than that. It's a very tricky thing.
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>>53072085
Depends on the weapon, and how much you put into upgrading it. Ryyk blades are fantastic, as you can relatively easily get them down to crit 1, and they come with Superior without any price increase. Vibroknuckles can work wonders with Martial Artist.

That said, if you want to kick ass with a gaffi stick, don't hold your breath.
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>>53071841
Chumbalaya has good advice here. A rebel goodstuff list (Biggs, Miranda/corran, Stresshog) should be able to rip that list in half.
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Mods are asleep. Post images showing the might of the Empire!
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If khyber crystal lightsabers are so strong, why aren't they massed produced?

Then the jedi or sith could destroy planets with a swing of their sword.
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>>53072635
because they can't be mass produced, dingus.That's the point.
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>>53072635
In the EU, artificially producing crystals was a huge effort, requiring ridiculous amounts of resources. Not worth mass producing.

In the current canon, they only naturally occur.
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>>53064452
Absolutely astounding taste in ships, mate
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>>53072470
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Anyone got hi res shots of the TIE Reaper from Rogue One?

I still need to get a copy at some point.,
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>>53067845
Hey Daddy you do namefag in here! Should we serenade everyone with our beautiful voices in the morning?
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>>53072085
Depends. Melee/brawl weapons don't usually deal as much direct damage as a blaster but usually have some sort of bonus quality. They also can be taken places that blasters might be banned from, if your GM is that sort of guy.
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>>53073396

https://starwarsscreencaps.com/rogue-one-2016/

Try there, it has a fair amount of screencaps

>>53072470
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Does humanity have a homeworld in the Star Wars universe? Every other species has one. Is it ever explained why humans are so numerous?
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>>53074671

The unofficial consensus was Coruscant in Legends. Somewhere in the Core Worlds lends to it being a pre-city world Coruscant, that they beat the Taungs out of.

And I don't think it's explained why they're so numerous so YMMV on how it's a human's galaxy, and aliens just live in it.
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Beginner question.

Ok so Demolisher Title plus Engine Techs.

Can you perform 2 attacks after moving twice? (One after each move)
Or is it just once after any move and once pre move?
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>>53074996
A casual reading indicates that Demolisher only defers "1 of your attacks" per activation, so you can't carry both over.
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R8 my newb TIE swarm for X-wing:
Jax: PtL, Stealth Device, Mk.II Engine
Howlrunner: Crack Shot, Stealth Device
Black Squadron x3, Crack Shot
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>>53075243
Get Autothrusters on Jax you silly billy
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>>53075257
I considered that and dropping Crack off one of the Black Squadron pilots to make up the points difference, is it worth the loss in firepower?
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>>53075357
A Twin Laser Turret has good odds to delete Jax in two turns. Autothrusters are insurance against that 2 damage per round being a statistical guarantee.
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>>53075400
Fair point. Would it be a better strategy to drop Crack Shot off of Howlrunner instead of a random TIE pilot since they potentially make better use of Crack Shot with the re-roll buff?
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I know in legends there was a Sith virus/weapon that would kill the host before reanimating them as a zombie. Are there any rules for running the undead?
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>>53071072
Well like I mentioned, you can almost always really benefit from 4 or 5 ships, so possibly a gozanti or two. With VSDs being so slow and expensive that's possibly even more important. Two Arquitens is probably? the most viable list of the lot, but I don't play Empire myself.

Aside from that, there's three squadron boxes: 1, 2, and the split-faction Rogues and Villains box. There's also additional aces in the Corellian Conflict box.

CC is $25, the other boxes are $20. Also, the core set includes six TIE Fighters. CC offers some really strong aces, R&V offers some iconic characters and abilities that enable bombing strats and such. Squadrons 1 gets you fighters, bombers, etc; Squadrons 2 gets you more experimental tech like Defenders and Phantoms. You'll want 2 sets of each to run everything, but the six Fighters from the core set is a solid start to a fighter screen so you can mix and match with whatever boxes you feel like buying.

The biggest problem you'll run into is a like of variety- an ISD is going to use up around a third of your points, and two VSDs will too, so you'll end up with a relatively small number of points that are actually interchangeable from game to game.

Raiders and Arquitens are cheap, on the other hand, so won't have that problem. They'll leave you with enough points to run upgrade heavy brawler lists or ISD carrier bomber lists or balanced lists using gozantis as carriers for a small fighter screen. I've seen ISD with 2x Gladiator before, although I've never played against it, but it seems workable enough in theory.

Ultimately you'll be missing out on a lot of fun lists, but they're you're spaceships, do what pleases you. If you want every list to have an ISD and two of everything else, knock yourself out. You won't be automatically consigning yourself to the loser's table, or anything.
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>>53074996
>Can you perform 2 attacks after moving twice? (One after each move)
No.

>Or is it just once after any move and once pre move?
Yes.

The value of engine techs is moving at speed four, setting up double arcs, and double ramming.
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What exactly are the limits of the benefits you can receive from advantage die?
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>>53074671
>>53074768
Well in legends and probably canon as well humans were not only one of the oldest species there were also one of the first species to have ftl travel so they spread out and colonized the stars.
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>>53074671
Humanity's homeworld is Earth.

In the not too distant future, a warp travel mishap will cause a human colony ship to be flung across time and space, landing on Coruscant far in the past. This will be addressed in the trilogy coming after Ep9, wherein the New Republic will face off against time traveling Earthlings from our galaxy.
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>>53076639
>a long time ago in a galaxy far far away
>A LONG TIME AGO
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>>53076662
What part of across time and space don't you understand cretin?
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>>53076662
I said "time traveling"
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>>53076696
>>53076708

The part where time travel doesn't fit the Star Wars universe
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>>53074671
Probably Aku.
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>>53076639
In fluff that is no longer canon, humans were taken from their homeworld and spread throughout the galaxy as a slave race by one of the earliest empires, which then proceeded to collapse and leave humanity scattered all over; in effect giving humans countless homeworlds instead if just one.
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>>53077217
Mislink, meant for
>>53074671
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>>53069749
Some of the WoW soundtracks work oddly enough. My group uses them for Force heavy games.
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In Legends, do we ever get an idea of exactly how many Executor-class SSDs were actually built? Or how many survived till the end of the GCW?
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>>53075643
Take of Howl's Stealth device, or Carnor's stealth device if you really love Howl.
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>>53078296
>>53075643
And thinking aboaut it- yeah, Howl's crack is worth less.

Howl should be taking an Evade action each round unless she is at range 3, so crack shot matters even less.

So yeah, give Howl Adapt or Trick shot instead of crack, swap the mk2 to autos.

Also, potentially consider hull or even shield instead of stealth on carnor- he tends to fly pretty close to the sun, and shield in particular lets him avoid gunner more freely.
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>>53078285
No. We know that there were at least 12 built, but nobody ever settled on exact figures of production or post-GCW survivors.
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>>53078285
No canon numbers. My best estimate was ~20-25 built and 4-6 survived the GCW
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What would've gone differently if Obi-Wan had defeated Anakin with something less permanently crippling, like a stab through the stomach, rather than Anakin being dismembered and catching fire?
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>>53078285
>>53078597
Are you including the ICW as part of the GCW?

Because until they turned them against each other there were only 2 finished SSDs I can think of that died (The Executor and the one from XvT Balance of Power,) plus the cloaking one at Fondor.
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>>53078891
>Are you including the ICW as part of the GCW
Yes, I'm counting everything up to 19ABY as GCW
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>>53078749
>stabbed through the stomach
>less perminantly crippling

Only if you consider death to be no impediment.
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>>53078749
Vader would have been immensely more powerful, since his near-complete bodily destruction still canonically stunted his Force potential.

The setting becomes a game of cat and mouse between Vader looking for a chance to murder Palpatine and Palpatine trying to figure out the Sith alchemy to steal his body.
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>>53079319
>The setting becomes a game of cat and mouse between Vader looking for a chance to murder Palpatine and Palpatine trying to figure out the Sith alchemy to steal his body.

>Disney will never fund alt-history spinoff anime
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What is the best way to show the star wars saga to someone who hasnt seen the movies?
>1 2 3 r1 4 5 6 tfa?
Also I got the despecialized versions of the OT with ep 4 being the revisited version which would be shown instead of the lucas fuck up version
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>>53079402
4, 3, 5, 6, 7
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>>53079402
Release order, same as its always been.
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>>53079402
The Original Trilogy, the sequels aren't complete enough to show and the prequels are the prequels.
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>>53079347
>Disney will never fund Star Wars anime, period
Macross Delta-7, X-Wing Build Fighters, and PellaeonColle when?
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>>53079452
I'm boycotting kancolle until they add the rest of the USN
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>>53079419
4, 5, 3, 6, 7 is probably better
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>>53079452
Put yer dick back in your pants, XWW
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>>53079499
>rest of the USN
>Literally hundreds of ships
>175 ships in just the Fletcher class alone
At the rate content is being added, your boycott's going to last for a few more decades, anon.
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>>53079402
You may want to hold off a month or so
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>>53079620
what's this
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>>53079581
>At the rate content is being added, your boycott's going to last for a few more decades, anon.
Yep, and?
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>>53079671
An autist remaking esb from the original reels and remaking the special effects and other changes https://swrevisited.wordpress.com/esbr-facts/
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>>53079319
No it fucking didn't. Vader was stronger in the suit than he was out of it. The pain heightens his focus and strengthens the darkside in him. Not to mention the suit inspires fear in his enemies fueling his power. Read Lords of the Sith and the Vader comic
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>>53079402
maybe r1, 4, 5, 6
The rest are trash.
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>>53079402
I personally like,
>4, 1, 5, 2, 3, 6, 7

Not settled on where R1 fits in.
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>>53079402
1, 2, clone wars, 3, rebels, r1, 4, 5, 6, 7
:^)
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>>53080129
>Not settled on where R1 fits in.
THIS. R1 really doesn't work well without ANH as a foundation. Maybe the Han Solo movie will fix this somewhat but I don't count on it.
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Here's an incredibly minor question for /swg/: what demonym would be used to distinguish Selkath born on Manaan from Selkath born elsewhere? Manaanites?
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I know I've been posting a lot lately. If it's too much let me know and I'll cool it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evZILXzmRrY
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>>53079821
Anon, you misread him. He said it affected his potential - which has always been the case.

But potential is not actualized power. Vader went from having the potential of being twice as powerful as Palpatine to only having the potential to be about 80% of Palpatine.

Personally, I doubt he ever really reached that 80% (especially in Legends). What we've seen on him and what we've seen of Palpatine simply are too far apart.
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>>53080247
Maaanani?
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>>53079821
How many times do we have to tell you people the Dark Side does NOT feed off the pain of others nor the fear of others? The Dark Side is NOT evil.
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>>53081279
>citation needed
>>
What did Palps need Anakin for anyways? He didn't really do anything that couldn't have been done by anyone else. Why take the risk of keeping someone dangerous around? Pre-NOOOOOOOOOoooooo Anakin was the biggest potential long term threat to his rule - and in the end, *was* the thing that brought him down.
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>>53081297
Common sense?
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>>53081299
I think the canon now is that he intended to steal his body eventually, but accepted the possibility that Vader might outwit him and triumph. Sith are social darwinists.
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>>53081350
>Sith are social darwinists.
Yes, but that doesn't mean you keep the threats to you lying around so they can usurp you. You eliminate them in order to stay on top. The chosen one, with the known potential to surpass even your own immense power? That's the /first/ guy you kill.

>I think the canon now is that he intended to steal his body eventually, but accepted the possibility that Vader might outwit him and triumph.
But *that* makes sense. It becomes a risk versus reward, rather than just pure risk. Full-potential-Anakin's body (and youth) would be a big prize.
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>>53081350
>>53081403
Wrong. In canon now Sheev believed in Sith teaching and ideals. He respected Vader and hoped that he could surpass him as he did his own master for that is the way of the sith.
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>>53081279
>The Dark Side is NOT evil.
I don't know man it seems pretty fucking evil every time it shows up.
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>>53074671
From what I've encountered it seems like humans were the only race to send out Sleeper colony ships before the development of Ftl, and star wars does not into relativity, so humans got a massive head start.
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>>53081755
The Duros also did, which is why they're in fluff the second most common spacefaring species, even if they don't show up enough to seem that way
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>>53081829
My headcanon is that the average Duros spends so much time in space that they're just rarely seen anywhere in particular, despite being so common.
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>>53081279
>>53081297
>>53081676
He's right the darkside is misused and misunderstood kind of like firebending In atla. To use the dark side correctly you have to use positive emotions like love, joy, boundless courage and righteous fury etc.
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>>53081341
>applying dry common sense to a fictional spiritual energy field that runs on thoughts, feelings, and "midichlorians"
I'm not saying it's autism, but it's probably autism.
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>>53081910
Anakin's fall was motivated by love and Palpatine is at his happiest when he's electrocuting people.
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>>53081910
Then why is it called the DARK side?
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>>53081994
>what is duality?
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>>53081866
I use lots of duros NPCs, myself, and I also just say that the vast majority of duros spacers work above-board space jobs, where PCs would simply never interact with them
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>>53074671
A lot of sleeper ships and being scattered about the galaxy as slaves to the Rakkata.
>>53076639
There was an old draft allegedly by Lucas of people fleeing the world of THX 1138 ending up sent back in time to the SW galaxy.
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Dark Sider or non-Dark Sider?
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>>53082022
>unlimted powah ain't free. The Force of liberty and freedom gotta be litterd with the blood of normies. Finis SLEEPYHEAD Valorum is not my chancellor he is sepratist enabler and also probably bad at galactic domination ok? praise Bane
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>>53082156
Mace Dindu
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>>53081582
Palpatine was always pretty well-intentioned in both "lore universes"
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>>53082156
He doesn't strike me as the type that would actually BE force-sensitive in the first place. More like a Mandalorian getting led around by a Sith if you go by the Show canon. (I've not read the books, but he's nicer there.
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>>53081910
So who has actually used it for good?
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>>53081910
Eh, debatable, it may just be best not to touch the force while feeling those things, or to not use them to bind the force.

Dark force *USE* is bad because it's an attempt to enslave the force.
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>>53082277
Kyle "Normie" Katarn
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>>53082326
The Force can't be enslaved, because it isn't a living being.
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>>53082326
I'm glad to see someone touch on the underlying philosophy. The Dark Side will always naturally exist because everyone has emotions both positive and negative, but the oft mentioned imbalances happen when Force sensitives start distorting reality by throwing their emotion-fueled desires at it.
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>>53082240
No, he really wasn't.
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Anyone here have experience with military centric Age of Rebellion campaigns? Going into one, and it's not just all fights all the time right?
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>>53081829
Oh shit yeah I forgot that's how we ended up with nemoidians isn't it?
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>>53082156
Show: Dark Jedi
Books: Non-Jedi, but not fallen to the Dark Side (yet)
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>>53080639
1 new subscriber for every day this month so far. Thanks for everything, guys!

Are there any rebel EU characters on the level of Trioculus that we want added to XWM? Maybe Hohass?
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>>53082758
Moff ship for epic play
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Anybody else having trouble accessing wookieepedia lately? all I get is white screens
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New thread soon?
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>>53082758
No pressure, right?
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>>53083959
When actually is is the archive limit?
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>>53084963
Bump limit for /tg/ is 300 or just above nowadays.
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>>53084884
It's the good kind of pressure. Makes me want to keep improving.
>pic related is my reaction to today's podcast's view count
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>>53085252
>>53085252
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