Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

>>53058920
It still crack me up that he girl is playing Nids.

Will GW make ovipositor dildos now?

First for Cadia!

>>53058924
Even then it still comes across as that kid in elementary who kept changing the rules so he could always win

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>>53058920
I laughed at op pic.

Sly Marbo 7e rules

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/04/sly-marbo-rules-for-warhammer-40000/

What happened to Calgar, now that his primarch is back?

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What do you think of this list? I'm running it as all looking like the Inquisition, but most of it as rules-wise IG. It's pretty straightforward, only thing not obvious is that I intend to use the Shotgun/GL Veterans as an escort for the Hellhound - flame clears buildings, Vets charge and mop up.

>>53058944
muh wurgums

my dudes > your dudes

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CHOOSE
YOUR
FUCKING
BOOK

>>53059018
Finally is released from the hell that is dealing with Cato.

>>53059018
Guilliman is busy being Lord Commander of the Imperium. It's likely that Calgar is still just doing his job as chapter master because Bobby G is too busy running fucking everything to run the Ultramarines.

>>53059026
first thought is to shave some points and give your chimeras heavy flamers as well

>>53059044
What's wrong with Chaos Marines?

>>53059057

? They can't take any more weapons. Would you replace a weapon? The Heavy Bolter to Heavy Flamer is a free swap.

>>53058920
Fluff article when?

>>53059062
They keep getting passed over for new units, weapons, and toys! We have Tech Hertics and they should be shitting out new weapons by a Deamon Primarch's Butt Load. Yet nothing....

>>53059026
Demonhost? I've try using those things many times. I have never made them work.
And I'm the crazy bastard that has manage to make PE and Repentias work.

You are better of using DCA

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Reposting my list for the last 7th tourney at my local store, rules are:

>1250 points
>1 CAD
>1 Book (no supplements)
>500 points must be spent on troops
>No LoW
>No more than 1 model with more than 5 wounds/hull points

I've got 35 points spare to spend on Combi-weapons etc.

The alternative would be to take two exorcists, and drop Celestine for a bare bones priest, but I feel like Celestine's ability to tank pretty big hits will probably be better since most of the list is pretty fragile..

>>53059078
>The Heavy Bolter to Heavy Flamer is a free swap.
even on the hull mount?

Well, if it is, do that. Heavy bolters don't do anyone any good.

>>53059111
In about 3 minutes

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With the Cadia blow-up will we see new basic infantry IG models? Friend is thinking about getting into 40k by buying IG start collecting.

Also are you thinking about making up a new army for 8e?

>>53059078
Double-flamers on Chimeras are gonna be nasty in 8th

>>53059112
Wait we have Tech Heretics? Link?

>>53059121
Give Flamer SoB Immolators Multi Melta.
Give melta SoB Immolators Heavy Flamers

Add dozer blades to Immolators
Add storm bolter to Exorcist

Beside that you have the most basic and functional SoB list in 7th

>>53059134
Hopefully IG get something, it's been a while for them. I am starting tyranids but havent a fucking clue what to get as a starter aside from the start collecting box

>>53059143
>>53059127

Well shit, that's a pain in the ass because I glued them in. I've still got the spare Flamers though. Might have to do some conversion work.

The only thing i'm waiting on is the Assault Grenadiers from Anvil Industry I ordered (to match the two Vet squads i've already got), then i've actually got everything in that list, about 40% painted. Most of the vehicles, Baneblade is WIP. All in Inquisition colours.

New fluff:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/04/new-warhammer-40000-the-great-rift/

>>53059134
>Also are you thinking about making up a new army for 8e?
Yeah, making a nidzilla list. So far got a SC box, 12 hormogaunts, a trygon, and a carnifex

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Got a pile of old marines that I might strip and try to pick the glue off, and probably paint as Astral Claws because I like the scheme and it's pretty simple.

Should I keep them on 25mm bases? Might just buy round MDF 32mm bases instead of official GW ones.

>>53059118

Problem is, I don't have any DCA models. I'm using the Daemonhosts because the Inquisitor is a radical. I've got 5 Flagellants kitbashed with the ghost things from AOS that my friend is making for me as counts-as Daemonhosts. Going to look great when they're done.

>>53059160
>Beside that you have the most basic and functional SoB list in 7th

Cool I guess, should have expected as much.

Hopefully when 8th comes around there'll be good excuses to take some of the armies weirder units, like power armoured hordes, or Penitent Engines.

>>53059169
>Might have to do some conversion work.
well, as always wait for the rules to come out before sawing anything up

>>53059175
Nothing of value the post.

>>53059175
Well that was underwhelming
>its the eye of terror but it's a big crack
>also time shifts is a thing now guys

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>>53059175
Well, hoped for something more. It's a fuckin nothing desu

>>53059044
Scenery, because if I wanna be an NPC, but with better rules than Nids.

>>53059175
>Some worlds felt centuries go by in an instant while others were all but froze in time, and still others have suffered constant temporal shifts.
This could be actually pretty nice campaign material

>The SM company reach a world were millennia has passed from the creation of the rift, where an heretical mix of Imperial Truth and xenos history has been created

>>53059175
It's really not a whole lot of anything "new", but it's cool that they're expanding on the big fuckoff rift a little.

FUCKING ORKS AND TYRANIDS NEED TO FUCKING DIE

>>53059175
I guess they didn't want to push any buttons explaining the marines2.0 yet.

>>53059188
>Should I keep them on 25mm bases?
If GW wants to replace old marines with the new one some day I would rather magnetise them to whatever you wan bases. Maybe we will be allowed to use old marines to proxy new ones if they are same based (32mm is my bet)

>>53059189
Use those as DCA

Hell I've use Repentias as DCA since I have 9 of those bitches.

>>53059197
There is a way to make PE work.
You need 6 and at least 4 transports to block line of sight to them or at least give them cover save. It is the old school Rhino wall move everything forward pop smoke and hope for the best. You get turn 2 charge some times.

It won't work against waac, but it can be done.

>>53059175
>The Crimson Path is part of a strategy that Abaddon the Despoiler plans to accomplish with his Thirteenth Black Crusade. His goal is to conduct a massive campaign to breach the barriers of the Cadian Gate in order to shatter the protective fields projected by the Pylons that hold back the tides of the Eye of Terror. Once destroyed, Abaddon's Daemonic allies would be able to manifest into realspace as the Warp spread outwards, across a trail known as the Crimson Path. The expansion of the region of Chaos space would eventually spread into the Segmentum Solar and in time would engulf Terra itself
> The rift is variously known by the cultures of the galaxy as the Crimson Path

>be Abbadon
>blow up cadia to launch the crimson path to terra
>instead it goes 90° away from it
>then a primarch comes back to lead a new crusade to undo the damage this failure caused, so you don't even get to rip the imperium in two for that long
>and magnus already allowed the daemon primarchs to enter realspace, so you didn't even do that

>but it's ok, because chaos fanboys will still insist you aren't a massive failure

>>53059229
Why the fuck don't we have Scenerymancers for each army except the Tau?

>Catachans can plant fast-growing jungles
>Exodites and their bullshit
>Orks fast-grow giant fat squigs
>Tyranids just spawn giant tentacle pillars
etc.

That's how you solve Tau problem.

>>53059265
Tau have moving scenery with that Tide wall thingy.
It is kind of silly

>>53059265
>no enginseer+servitor work crew that can assemble imperial terrain features mid-game

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When are we getting more news? I thought fluff stuff came out today?

>new edition comes out in a month
>Now they gives us new rules for Sly Marbo
gee thanks

>>53059307
see>>53059175

>>53059134

I'm also thinking about getting an ig start playing box.

>>53059316
>i'm a fucking retard the post

>>53059307
>on Friday, we’ll take a look at Battle-forged armies

>>53059134
Tits say girl, part of the face says boy.

Please just be a bad angle.

>>53059335
He does have a point. 7th is dead by the end of semester.

It is nice to have rules for SW:A and 7th for a squated character but it is almost a pitty fuck for the Guard.

>>53059265
CSM can already kinda do this with geomortis, but especially worldwrithe.

>>53059375
>It is nice to have rules for SW:A and 7th
>and 7th
Yep you're actually completely buttfuck stupid.

Did they retcon cadia being under constant attack for ages?

>>53059399
?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/04/sly-marbo-rules-for-warhammer-40000/
>7e rules for Sly Marbo

>>53059399
Explain. The rules are not for 8th

>>53059407
its dead now boi

>>53059375
>>53059399
Welp, some people want to stay in 7th edition (don't ask me why) so I'm sure someone will be happy with these rules

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>Forgeworld relase agent shit on resin should pads never fucking come off
>primer wont stick
>Already on the models, can break if I take them off


How about I spray them, even though it wont stick very good. Spray with "purity seal" or something, then spray black again?
Or only do seal spray and then black primer.

Would this work? Would it get too thick or not stick properly?

>>53059407
Yep. They even made Cadia not prepare to fight chaos.

Granted it was a big invasion to the point of plot wrong big, but come on it was silly how easy Cadia fall

>>53059175
>Gork's Grin
Mork BTFO

>>53059422
So you're a complete retard?

Good to know.

>>53059253

>Transporting 6 Penitent Engines

A truly terrifying proposition.

Tbh though, they are the only SoB I don't own any of, I really should change that.

>>53059411
>Sly lost his Demo Charges

And like that they lost me.

>>53059429
So remember how there was a campaign that ended with Abby winning on the ground and no fleet?

Cadia continued from there, basically. Abby came in a huge fleet and beat what little defense remained after kilking the Imperial fleet above Cadia.

>>53059446
Buy chinaman. I got fed up pinning up the bastards.

>>53059134
>new guard
Don't know but with shadow war and other snippets of lore floating about suggesting a 3rd war on Armageddon maybe we'll get really lucky and see plastic steel legion (I mean probably not but I can dream)

>New army
Before the 8th announcement I was planning a Chaos army using the 30k sets, now I'm sitting around waiting for the full rules to drop cause what I really want is a full Deathwing army but I don't know if it'll be viable

>>53059471
It didn't continue from there. Otherwise it would had made sense

>>53059444
>Hey mommy look! I used a retard on chinese cartoon image forum!
I think you have some brain damage Anon and don't really know what is your problem - 7e rules for Marbo came late so players that want to stick with new edition will not use them for long but they are still useable for quitters not willing to play 8e

>>53059456
The booby traps are pretty much straight from codex: catachans, which makes me very happy.

>>53059523
True, but I loved him as a precision Demo Charger.

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>>53059345

>>53059490
Formations are being kept but with point costs and theres rumors of a FOC with 1 HQ + multiple Elites with less command points so heres hoping the deathwing returns

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>>53059237
im LMAOing at your life

>>53059490
Any greatcoat wearing regiment as the new IG posterboys would be amazing, be they Vostroyan, Valhallan, Krieg or Armageddon.

>>53059529
Thanks. Thank you very much.

>>53059529
MANLET

>>53059527
It was good, but limited him to a one-time suicide bomb. Now he can charge a vehicle, blow it up, then immediately go back into reserves. Which is pretty neat.

It'd be more than just a fun gimmick if he could charge out of reserves, though. Maybe they'll give him 8e rules that let him do that.

>>53059175
Things we learned about the massive warp storm bisecting the galaxy:
>It is called the Great Rift (among other things)
>It is not a secret
>It is widely regarded as a Bad Thing
Wow.

Will TSons be viable in 8th edition?

Will Rubric Marines finally not cost insane amounts of points while being completely mediocre ingame? Will Scarab Occults finally be worth their points cost?

>>53059617
Probably caused by all the warp travel. Eventually when you poke so many holes in fabric, it's gonna start tearing

>>53059529
>WOW DONT STARE AT ME CREEP!

>>53059540
If we got plastic steel legionnaires I would immediately set to work making Vostroyan conversions.

>>53059529
>small boss

>>53059256
>chaos fanboys
>not Black Legion fanboys

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>>53059426
Answer me!

>>53059533
>FOC
Yeah I've seen the same and it looks. I pretty sure I'll be able to field them, it's more a case of whether Terminator's themselves are a viable unit. 2 wounds is a good start and someone has suggested that there's an AoS system where you can resist rend that might get ported over. If that's the case I'll probably consider it.

>>53059540
For sure, I actually quite fancy greatcoats with Cadian respirator heads. Also kinda hoping that grenade launchers become viable this edition

>>53059634
We don't know anything about any unit, so who knows?

However from what we've learned they seem to have gotten better, with their weapon most likely not being as powerful but being far less specialized

>>53059426
>>53059669
Does this look like the WIP general to you, you incompetent retard?

>>53059669
>"DELET THIS"

>>53059670
> grenade launchers

They'll probably be S6 -1 d3 wounds. Not great, but decent in a pinch. 50/50 chance of krumping a marine at least.

>>53059670
They could easily make a single box of greatcoat wearing guardsman that with pretty minimal conversion kits could make any of the greatcoat wearing regiments (they wouldn't make one for Krieg though that's killing FW's golden IG goose)

>>53059144
Warp Smiths
Dark Mechanicus

>>53059703
That would need for GW caring for something else beside marines and bad marines

>>53059723
Neither of whom have updated models which annoys the fuck out of me. I really want a chaos tech faction

>>53059634
It seems that rubrics and the likes will be more viable, especially with the psychic phase edits. The days where we relied on 30 Tzaangors over more former battle brothers are now behind us, friend.

>>53059636
It's a metaphor for climate change.

>>53059737
But anon Dark Mechanicus are like the players from the 40k rpg
They just slap a demon into a machine and call it a day

I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE

WHY DON'T I HAVE A CUTE DAEMONETTE WAIFU??

CHAOS, CONSUME ME

>>53059768
Then where the hell are my Kai Gun as special weapon options?

>>53059121
Saint/10

>>53059768
It's why I like Chaos Dwarfs, they bind and subjugate demons to do their bidding. It's awesome

>>53059737
If they ever do a Dark Mechanicus army i want a corrupted version of the Castellax-Achea that developed psychic powers of it's own and that's cybernetica cortex is now a large exposed fully biological brain.
It would fit perfectly with my Thousand Sons.

>>53059802
never ends badly

>>53059791
Go convert one.

>>53059044
>be Tau collector
>now forced to collect Craftworld, Dark Eldar, Harlequins, Ynnari, Orks, Tyranids, Genestealer Cult and Necrons

Why is this fucking allowed?

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>>53059791
Take this one

>>53059808
Usually doesn't actually, as the ones that failed to successfully daemonforge die quickly. The weapons/creations you see in combat are the successful attempts by smiths who know their shit and are that good at it

>>53059814
Because it isn't. Your not in a grad alliance. Your in a $10 stop gap book together. Doesn't mean you'll get to use their stuff.

>>53059824
too fat

>>53059814
Except it's not. It's simply for organization. We already went over this before, NPC.

>>53059834
>Because it isn't. Your not in a grad alliance
Even if it was a grand alliance you still don't have to catch 'em all. Just ignore and report the shitposter

>>53059814
>tau collector
You deserve every bit of shit you get.

>>53059802
The Word Bearers do this too

>>53059831
Using demons always backfire sooner or later. Only retards use demons in 40k

At least use some warp magic like sensible man, but demons is just asking for something to go wrong

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>>53059703
>>53059670
>>53059649
>>53059540

The biggest problem for me with most IG models is that they're just "X" in space.

I'd love GW to make a more in keeping with the setting kit, like they did with the plastic stormtroopers (although I always like the metal 3rd edition ones as well)

>>53059918
Unlike marines? That are just generic space marine with added bits and different paint job?

Mixed IG armies with different regiments should be a thing. Because unless the Guard is getting invade in their home world. Other regiments will be present on the battlefield

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>>53059894
>using warp-fuckery and the favours of super-hell for your cause
what could possibly go wrong

>>53059345
Wtf does Quiet have to do with any of this?
That filename is such a fucking trigger I can't even.

If you're gonna post attention-grill, then at least use a 40k cosplayer or cuck off to /v/

>>53059894
Only backfires for the WEAK OF WILL

>>53059134
>>53059529

So triggered I can't even tag fuck
see >>53059982

>>53059959
>Mixed IG armies with different regiments should be a thing

They are if you want them to be. Go buy a fucking box of Cadians and Catachans.

>>53059982
Quiet is a honorary guardswoman

Reply from like 3 Generals ago because Cruddace sux grox nux

>>53054352
Naw, Cruddace is technically autismo-smart, he just doesn't have any integrity as a person or game designer.

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>>53059996
But anon, she a cute! CUTE!

So, is time distortion from the big split going to explain why we are still in the forty-first millennium, despite the GS books apparently taking at least a few months to resolve and starting right at the end of 999.M41?

>>53059982
Isnt quiet essentially a slutty vindicaire?

>>53060006

Is he a sociopath?

>>53059959

Space Marines are iconic though. Cadians are just 28mm colonial marines, and Catachans are goofy Vietnam war models

>>53060000
I mean in the sense of actual model variaty.
It where GW can go wild with different upgrade kits hell FW could it. But no we end with squated BT and fucking dreadnoughts and knight heads

>>53060027
quiet isn't a slut tho

did you even play the game

>>53060045
I mean, I'm sure her appearance was justified in game, but Kojima just likes stacked white chick's in military gear

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>>53060036
They're not Marine iconic but there's something about the look and imagery of Kriegers that I think just clicks with the 40k setting as a whole.

>>53060036
Generic Space Marine vs Generic Colonial Marine.

It is stupid how ever you put it. Let's just move on. Since 40k is just the copy pasted and generic the setting.

>>53060091
also tight suits shoving manly buttocks in your face

but that doesn't make raiden or snake slutty

>>53060091
>her appearance was justified in game
kinda poorly, since the end and that other old guy weren't in mankinis

>>53060045
Even in game she was rather whorish, did you forgot the shower scene, the rain scene or even the idle animations in her prison cell.

Granted she gave the boss the best birthday gift ever.

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Any nid nogs here? I am thinking about putting together a swarm and so far I have this, all it needs is a Swarm box and a Venomthropes box. Is this alright for a melee swarm? I think the Venomthropes will be wonderful in 8th due to spore clouds utility

>>53060121
did you play the game?

There's been so much butthurt at my LGS about Numarines, but not about the weird lore implications. One guy said that better marines invalidated his marines. What the heck does that mean?

>>53060121
The End had that weird photosynthesis suit that regen'd stamina ingame though. I guess that sort of answers it, but it leaves the question as to why Quiet never used the same suit...

>>53060121
They still had lungs on top of photosynthesis, she didnt after the fight in the hospital

>>53060121
Missed opportunity. But that's just me that want true equality and every video game character must have the option to use slutty outfits in battle

>>53060111
Snake was the biggest slut though..

>>53059219
>Tau now advanced 10000 years more
>Tau just keep getting the best luck with warp storms

>>53060134
Because it was less sexy?

The existence of her alternative outfit kinda ruins justifications though, because it shows plenty of skin without being fetishwear.

>>53060148
>farsight still alive

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>>53060133
>One guy said that better marines invalidated his marines. What the heck does that mean?

That means the game isn't going to focus on the regular marines? That means his models are now old and busted?

I sympathize a lot with marine players. Their armies are on the way out but everyone wants to pretend that these new things are just a side unit or what have you. Hell no. In a few years it'll be Numarines all over the walls.

>>53060133
Before, their guys were the protagonists. Now they are NPC support for the new protagonists.

>>53060134
Shame, too. The end's proto-ghille suit was cool.

>>53060152
>His sword keeps sustaining him with the souls of his fallen foes

>>53060151
The alternate outfits are just for fun, they aren't canon.

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>>53060157
i still use these fuck the arbiters

is it just me or does sly marbo seem really good for 25 points?

>>53060151
Which one? The blood, silver, gold, boss (the open jumpsuit one) or fox unit?

>>53060152
>Guys I have no idea why I can't fucking die
>Has nothing to do with this mysterious old one blade I picked up on that demon world
>Fuck you shadowsun stop using stasis you cheat

>>53060133
It means he's a faggot that won't use anything that isn't top tier

>>53060008
There's a billion cutes.
Gotta manage your venn diagrams.

>>53060177
Hey soon you'll be able to play your old marine models as squats.

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>>53059996
>>53059982
>Implying qt stacked woman would waste her time on making IG cosplay
B cups is best you will get, whiny autist

>>53060182
I'm pretty sure the open jumpsuit one is meant to be Sniper Wolf

>>53060179
iirc he used to be 50p pr 55p with the same equipment+demolition charge

Assuming 8th edition is as balanced as GW says with every unit being useful

How long until they release a model with disgustingly under costed stats and weapons

How long until the next pyrovore

>>53060190
kek
If he was a toptier fag then he'd use Eldar

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>8th is out next month

I keep hearing this, where is proofs?

>>53060133
>What the heck does that mean?
Same thing it meant for the empire players when sigmarines showed up. Just localized to the people who play regular space marines and no one else.

>>53060204
Thank you. I was confusing with the big mom scar thingy.

>>53060148
>Left on the ass end of a huge storm
>No more attempts at peace with Imperium nor any unlikely reinforcements from them
>Lucky

>>53060179
They probably didn't bother with balance since those rules will be invalidated in about a month.

>>53060213
there isnt any you dumb idiot

>>53060204
yep. in-game text says something like "you get to play with sniper wolf... or the next best thing"

>>53060213
There is none

>>53060203
Permission to HNNNNNNNNG sir

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>>53060157
In a few years Chaos will have 'Won' but the emperor would have 'made plans' and 40k are gonna gracefully join the AoS stage.

Time to uplift the rats and lizards!

What armies do you look forward to being viable/no longer unfun with 8th edition /40k/?

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>>53060177

Okay.. I still have a few squads of these old ass Terminators in my chaos force.

But that is missing the point. These Numarines aren't just a new mark of power armour. They are super hero demigod dudes above the old dudes now. The lore supplants that of the old marines.

It isn't just a case of new models same lore. It's new models, new lore, new focus on these dudes. That's why even as someone who isn't maining SMs I don't like the change. It's like when you get a sequel to a game or movie and it doesn't focus on the old characters you love, instead it introduces a bunch of new characters and focuses on them instead. In this case they are replacing protags that we've been following for 30 years.

>>53060021
no

>>53060209
At least with the new system they would be able to re-balance it relatively soon, instead of having that overpowered unit for years until the new codex/edition comes out

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>>53060223
>be obviously skeptical of something that has no proof
>that makes me a dumb idiot

>>53060241
custodians and grey knights are super marines too and nobody cares

>>53060213
It's quite unlikely they're going to leave 40K in limbo for very long, they're actively encouraging people not to spend money on this stuff, gw bleeds the longer this goes on. Also, weren't both 6ed and 7ed released in june?

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>>53060203
IMPROPER UNIFORM SOLDIER

>>53060250
No, you're a dumb idiot for asking for proof when it's fucking obviously just rumors

>>53060203
That thing has so much photoshop that Im starting to doubt the bolter and chainsword are part of the original image.

>>53060255

custodians and grey knights don't make up 85% of the armies of 40k

>>53060213
GW are offering refunds for all codexes that were purchased recently, they wouldn't be doing that if 8th wasn't dropping any day now.

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>>53060213

>>53060241
Or they're just adding new content? Content that adds to the game and takes absolutely nothing away?

>>53060209
I thought pyrovores were dumpster tier

>>53060255
custodians and grey knights are from the 80's, relatively unchanged

custodians and grey knights are not explicitly space marines+1, directly supplanting the original space marines

>>53059345
>Tits say girl, part of the face says boy.
>Please just be a bad angle
You should probably stop watching anime for a while.

>>53060213
White Dwarf says Far Future Grimdark War next month, and the magazine's out on the 16th. Weird date.

It's next month.

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>>53059188
Is that dried cum on that Disney cup?

>>53060255
They don't displace the standard marines in their own army.

>>53060203
I approve

>>53059656
Kek

>>53060240
Fuckin Nids. I'm still gona pick Tau because low point games and KT/SW:A but I want to see bugs viable

>>53060285
Four warlords are AoS right?

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>>53060288

>we're getting new protagonists for 40k
>these old guys are going to get less releases and less focus
>taking absolutely nothing away

Why do you do this? What is it about what's happening that you don't understand?

>>53060325
>baseless alarmist assumptions

>>53060241
So marines don't get to be the best of the best any more.

Waaaaaaaaah.

>>53060323
No, first set were AoS, that finished and now they are doing a 40k one.

>>53060323
I've only read it in my language until now, but most likely yes, unless they start a new column in the same style for 8th edition

>>53060309

If that's what your cum looks like you had better go see a doctor.

>>53060325
they said that guillimarines aren't going to replace regular marines. They'll probably be an elite option

>>53060288
See the problem with that is, GW doesn't make money from longstanders.

GW wants to make money from longstanders, and there's only one way to do that- make their current armies less valid than the new armies.

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>>53060303
>>53060282
>GW is offering refunds

Holy fuck, has GW actually changed? they used to be the most money hungry faggots in the world even a year ago

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>>53060285
All I see is
>such grim
>very darkness

>>53060354
Not even refunds, vouchers. So you get your money back, and you get to keep the books you bought.

>>53060335
Seriously? Being the best is the whole fucking reason I went SM! Now I'm just gonna be as shit as the other NPCs? Fuck that shit.

>>53060325
Why do you fear change? Do you order the exact same thing from the same restaurants when you eat out?

>>53060354
Yeah, they're being great.

>>53060209
Well, under that assumption, GW have managed a serious shift in culture and put a lot of effort into making the game balanced. So presumably they aren't going to have a rapid shift back to the old ways. That said, the same people responsible for the unbalanced shit are mostly still there and whatever factors led them to do it (including the financial incentive of WAAC players buying whatever is most powerful) so I expect a gradual slide back into power creep over the next few months, probably with obviously overpowered stuff showing up within a couple of years.

How long has any other game company been able to keep a similar product line balanced? I kind of doubt that GW can out-perform the best of their competition in this regard, considering what they have to work with.

Of course, there is an outside possibility that they actually have put together an internal system of balancing which corrects the tendencies they had previously and their resources allow them to do this better than other companies. We can hope, but my money would not be on that happening.

>>53060351
How does adding new models make my old models invalid? I still use marines from 15 years ago

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>>53060335
>So marines don't get to be the best of the best any more.
>Waaaaaaaaah.

And who are they replacing them with... Oh right, Super Marines. Oh but nobody owns any and has to buy an entire new army of them. Who is winning here?

>>53060350
>they said that guillimarines aren't going to replace regular marines. They'll probably be an elite option

Marine players are getting ansty. They've had to delete a few comments from their facebook page. Of course they're not going to tell them, 'hey your army is old and busted now, buy this new one'

>>53060354
I just recently found my way back to 40k and as soon as I saw the savings in the new box sets I knew something was up, lovin this new management and company philosophy

>>53060411
>has to buy an entire army
It's people like you that make salesmen jump for joy

>>53060411
Except that's wrong you fucking retard. Again, they've said they are not a fucking replacement for regular marines.

>>53060393
Didn't they start losing more and more money as 7th went on though? Especially if this new balanced version starts bringing home the bacon, they should have alot of evidence to justify keeping it balanced

>>53060441
Wait and see. Wait and see.

I welcome our new female NuMarines

>>53060441

>the PR team said this!

Stop being an idiot.

>>53060452
The exact opposite. Their stock price has been skyrocketing for the past few years

>>53060282

I just got a £20 voucher after buying Imperial Agents 2 days before 8th was announced, should I save it to get the new rules, or just splurge it on something else?

>>53060433
I'm in the same boat, what be these savings ye speak of

>>53060434

Why? I didn't say I was going to buy anything. We know most of the autismos aren't going to be happy with manlet marines and will move on to buy the updated stuff.

>>53060465
Wait for new start collecting boxes

>>53060462
I'll take the word of people who actually work at the company to your completely unfounded alarmist nonsense any day of the week

>>53060469
He means the new Start Collecting boxsets and the Horus Heresy games, they have better value for money than buying the minis individually.

>>53060354
Credit notes but yeah, tomorrow is the deadline though

>>53059026
>5 daemonhosts
Heretical/10.

Also dual heavy bolters is one of the worst chimera loads and why are you giving vanquishers heavy bolter sponsons?

>>53060491
Yea but I meant how much is it actually saving
I'm sure someone has a base value

>>53060354
They have changed in some ways, but this specifically isn't a change. One thing people miss in all the memes against GW is that they actually tend to not fuck you over if you are unhappy with a product you received, i.e. they will send you more models if you can prove the shit you bought was fucked up, or even missing parts (no way to prove the latter but do send people product for missing parts, especially FW) etc.

Don't get me wrong, I'm always up for a REEEEE against these motherfuckers, but they do seem to be improving and they do actually make sure the stuff you got is to their standard.

>>53060501
Dual HB are the worst for IG Chimera.
The only time it does not suck balls is when you use Chimera with Inquisition and give it psybolt.

HF and Multi laser every day!

Does anyone know where I can get high res pictures of environments that would make good custom battlemaps?

>>53060518
SC boxes are usually around $40 less than they would be if you bought all the pieces separately.

>>53060520
That's fine. But they also went and made the game more expensive, less balanced, and completely fucked any form of casual PuGs at LGSs over the last few years, which completely overshadows that

>>53060485

Please anon no, I've not finished painting my current army.

>>53060528
Not that guy but I'm new to the game and I've been reading old 40k stuff, it seems like during the "razorback spam" era of Blood Angels some years ago a lot of them just took heavy bolter razorbacks. But I thought heavy bolters were universally considered crap? In fact most razorbacks I've seen people take are just standard HB, what's the reason for this?

>>53060570
>In fact most razorbacks I've seen people take are just standard HB, what's the reason for this?

Probably to keep it as cheap as possible.

>>53060528
Actually if HB get a Save Modifier and ML don't, that would be a point to HB for sure.

>>53060570
Cheaper, and different available loadouts, razorbacks are not chimeras

>>53060554
>7th is less balanced

But 40k has progressively had fewer examples of absolute brokeness every edition. I think people just believe it's less balanced now because of power creep, they think because numbers are overall higher now, that means current cheese is stronger because it would destroy old cheese. In reality, old cheese was cheesier, but when you go back and look at some of the old cheese it looks weak today. Because it was powerful relative to a meta with lower numbers. Did people who say it's less balanced today even play the game in older editions?

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>>53060566
>Painting your models
I bet you are the guy that is basing models tho

>>53060582
Why would missile launchers not get a save mod?

>>53060570
AP4 is super situational. It just bounces off marines and the majority of heavy infantry, but against 'ard boyz and Kataphrons it's highly effective. It was probably just cheap at the time though.

>>53060616
In 8th AP 4 will probably translate to -1, so that might be nice.

>>53060577
yeah but why not just take a rhino, is a HB really worth the extra points. the second most common loadout in my area has been las/plas, which at least seems useful.

>>53060592
my question was "why heavy bolters" not "why razorbacks"

>>53060608

It still makes me laff to think that a few editions ago what was considered game breaking was T5 Obliterators.

>>53060570
Back then the upgrade for double plasma and lasscannon or twinklinked lasscannon costed like half the point cost of the transport

>>53060539
The IG box is like $80 in savings IIRC. The tanks in this game are way too fucking expensive.

>>53060608
There is no way in hell you can tell me with a straight face that 7th is remotely as balanced as 5th was

I've played against the same Chaos player since we started the hobby like 10 years ago. I quit around 7th due to the fact that the games between us were literally landslides in my favour as Tau. Even when I specifically de-powered my lists.

In 5th the game could of easily gone either way. Also you only need to read fucking Eldar's codex to see how unbalanced alot of this shit is

>>53060469
I'm a fucking leaf so YMMV but basically the start collecting boxes have about $130-170~ worth of models for $100 and the sets they put out last Christmas had $300-350~ worth of models for $200.

>>53060570
To keep em cheap for the most part I suspect. It's not that heavy bolters are complete crap, they're just not as a good as the alternatives in most cases. From 3rd ed onward a S6 AP - weapon is more useful against a wider range of targets than S5 AP 4 even though they might not ignore the armour saves because they can wound more MCs and penetrate higher armour values as well as hitting infantry. Exactly the same logic aplies to giving guard units Autocannons

>>53060663
Nah, he just needs to take one look at the Strength from Death rule to see how fucking broken 7th is

>>53059842

I'll take her then.

>>53059852
Seems like you mistyped tyranid "player".

>>53060452
No, their overall sales have been good recently.

Now, it could be that they have noticed that Age of Sigmar sales have been really good since the release of the general's handbook and are interpreting that as meaning they could have been doing even better with a balanced 40k. Or they have made predictions about how sustainable the unbalanced model is and decided to put a halt to it despite it helping them short-term. Any number of reasons they might want to change their ways.

On another topic, if the new scenery sets are sold out on the webstore, will I still be able to get one if I turn up at a physical store at opening time on Saturday? Really quite keen to get some of those tractors.

>>53060672
>tyranid player spotted

So has anyone figured out what the average wound count is gonna be for Knights and shit? Gonna start placing those wound dial orders now.

>>53060675
I'm not sure if it was 3rd or 4th, but weapons with no AP got a penalty against vehicles

>>53060611

And wishing that I just paid the money just to buy precast bases

why is this one? guy posting meme variations of that black guy and girl playing? that pic is from many years ago

>>53060688
>On another topic, if the new scenery sets are sold out on the webstore, will I still be able to get one if I turn up at a physical store at opening time on Saturday?

Each store gets a certain amount but you should get there early if you're worried about them selling out.

>>53059670
>grenade launchers being viable
I think they will. My guess is they'll do D6 wounds
If they only do D3 wounds, I will really despise the loss of templates

>>53060700
>wound dial

is this an official GW thing or just a third party thing people are planning on using?

kinda upset templates are gone. they were actually cool. having a big piece of flame-shaped plastic to show where your flamer dude is shooting is kickass, now I just have to imagine it which is lame.

>>53060733
if they do d6 hits like flamers why take flamers at all

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>>53060712
Try texture paints mate

>>53060700
I think they specifically said knights are going to be one of the things that gets 'dozens of wounds', so I'm going to say at least 24. We've literally just got the dread to go on, but that was 3 HP : 8 W so 9 HP : 24 W seems reasonable.

>>53060695
Ya caught me, but I havent pick up my kits yet.
Fellow Nid Nogs please give some input on my list? see>>53060123

>>53060751
my group uses tiny rubber bands to represent wounds

you can hang them from swords and heads

>>53060775
vast majority of vehicles have 3 hp you can't ignore armor values

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>>53060751

3rd party. Litko makes some really nice ones. GW does have Wound Trackers but it's just 8 D10s in a random color which I don't think is as neat.

>>53060341
Not him but dried cum kinda looks like that. Yellowish and crusty.

>>53060701
pretty sure it would have been 4th because I stopped playing for a after 3rd and didn't get back until after a year or so ago and I don't remember there being any penalty

those are too fucking big for 25-40mm bases

>>53060733
>grenade launcher
>D6 wounds
>same as a lascanon
I think you're going to be disappointed.

>>53060754
auto hit and possibly ignores cover would be my guess.

>>53060813
That reminds me, theres a cool looking ring with a built in wound counter that I saw at my local shop. Now I have an excuse to get it kek

>>53060613
Krak missiles definitely would, maybe not frag tho

>>53060776
Why do you think we know what's going to be good in 8th?
that list is shit if you played it today, but who knows what will be good with nids in 8th.

>>53060813
>tripfagging
That said any good source of d3? Because it seems 8th is going to need a lot of those now.

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>>53058920
>Brings a Titan formation to a "narrative" game
>T 20
>W 50
>SV 2+
>each
>Opponent sends fabious bile into combat with them
>he hits first due to assaulting
>hits
>wounds on 6+ (because everything can do that in 8th
>I fail my save
>His weapon is Instant Death
>Remove Titan from the field
>Remove other 2 Titans after failing battle shock

Can't wait for 8th.

>>53060876
modulated d6

>>53060879
Good, they never should of been in base 40k to begin with

b8

>>53060879
>implying anon has money to buy 3 titans when he can't even into common sense

>>53060879
Instant Death mostly non-exist. Mortal Wound is the shit now.

>>53060879
Instant death won't be in 8th.

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>>53060700
I'm using d10 dice and they work fine

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>>53060879
t. Another retard who cant into reading comprehension

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>>53060148

Old ones working from beyond the grave with their new favorite champions. Endgame of 40k will be blue vs blue, the smurfs with bolters vs the smurfs with pulse guns.

New chaos God is the chaos god of greater good and hope

How do you say WINNING in Tau?

How the fuck are they gonna rewrite "the purge" detachment?????????

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Do Tau Pathfinders and Fire Warriors have the best Guerrilla warfare poses among all infantry units?

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>>53060908

If you're wasting you're money on 3 titans I'd say you don't have much common sense to begin with senpai

>>53060873
Based on current information, nids will likely get mob-rule from AoS and Ignore battleshock within x of synapse creatures, 8th is looking more movement friendly with nids likely getting a huge buff there, point values are anyones guess but they'd likely remain similar for most units due to GWs incompetence/laziness. Is there any particular reason the list would suck if fielded today? I have no experience with nids so I'd like to understand what I'm missing

>>53060879
>it is impossible that they would give titans eternal warrior
Try not judging the system in its entirety when all we have to go on is a bit of marketing giving us broad strokes on the game to generate hype?
Pretty certain formations are gone, for one.

>>53061009
No, they are rename and added random point cost.

8th will be shit like every 40k edition. The question is how much will it suck?

>>53061009
They said formations are still a thing but have inherent point costs and have various effects on the command point system

>>53060123
Dude, what the hell. This is terrible. If that Zoanthrope dies, you're fucked. Instinctive behavior is a really bad time, even if they reworked it in 8th.

>>53061032
I'm still skeptical but the few things we are hearing are steps in the right direction.

>>53061032
>8th will be shit like every 40k edition
So what are you doing here?

>>53060879
That would require the titans to have leadership 5.

>>53061058
Oh shit you're right, I was wrongly under the assumption that vemonthropes had synapse. Thanks man, completely missed that

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>>53060982
I'd actually buy the Titan maniple if I had enough money, and would only be slightly ashamed

>>53059175
I hope the lion comes back and brings peace to the imperium on the other side of the rift, forming his own empire just to screw guilliman.

>>53061064
I enjoy dicking around with toy soldiers with friends while having beer and my children are playing their video games.

You know living a normal regular and also enjoying the freedom to bitch about unimportant rules on a anime image board

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>Harlequin in 8th edition
>When adding a unit to your list, choose Light, Dark or Twilight. Add that word to that unit keywords
>Troupe Master, Shadowseer and Death Jester all have special AoE and/or psychic powers that affect each unit in a different way
>Light makes the unit hit harder
>Dark debuff the enemies fighting them
>Twilight gives them special rules that are the 8th edition equivalents of 7th's infiltrate, scout, shrouded etc.
>The AoE/power of a character is larger if him and the affected unit are of the same type

Make it happen, GW

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>>53060259

>>53059301
We rts nao

>>53061147
Post it on their facebook, they're actually paying attention to it now

>>53061157
WHAT
THE
FUCK

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I want to write to GW, tell them how awesome some of their boardgames are and ask them to make more.

Is this likely to have any effect? If so, what's the best way to contact them?

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>>53061145
Welp, I would rather spend my time on playing a game I actually find fun and not being shitty but at the end of the day it's not my business

>>53061195
lol.

>>53061197
Hey I can't enjoy objectively bad things.

Like for example most zombie movies are trash but they can be enjoyable

>>53061195
Facebook or e-mail I guess.
Effects? Probably not much, if anything at all, but maybe you'll cheer up some intern/game designer.

>>53061147
So basically 40k Mark of Chaos for Harlequins?

>>53061098
No problem, it's an easy mistake. If you stuck in a few more Zoans, you'd be somewhat alright.

>>53061195
Marketing loves feedback so yeah, they should have a contact page on the website or alternatively try posting on their fackbook/twitter as they actively monitor them

>>53061226
Basically yes, that's what I used as a base

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>>53061225
>Facebook or e-mail I guess
Why they have no twitter profile? They have even an instagram one

>>53061249
To be fair, twitter is fucking garbage.

>>53061241
Welp, simple and somehow elegant, I would dig it

>>53061234
Had a 10 point deficit so I upgraded the venoms to zoans, can you give me any other pointers on the list?

>>53061249
Can't have that many interns.

Awesome to see Sly Marbo is back in the fluff.

>>53061249
Some of the employees are on Twitter.

>>53061249
Maybe they were testing the social media waters with Facebook like they did 8th edition with AoS.

>>53061287
He never went away. At worst he was just so deep undercover that we didn't hear about him anymore.

>FW units getting new rules for 8th ed is making me seriously consider getting a decimator
>check FW for price
>steep but whatever, I can afford this
>"arms/weapons sold separately"
>close page in disgust

>>53061318
Not making your own decimator :^))))

Is Guirlyman going to be the new protagonist of 40k? Even though Chaos is supposedly the main antagonist, we haven't gotten anything from their viewpoint since fucking Wrath of Magnus. The entirety of GS could be reduced to 'The Adventures of Celestine, Yvraine and Guilliman'.

>>53061264
Welp, I found it pretty useful as an information and news gatherer. On the other hand instagram is in my opinion a piece of shit. I'm following some titty monsters and they can not even post any nudes on instagram - twitter allows that

>>53059529
>>53059134
Fuck, any more?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/04/sly-marbo-rules-for-warhammer-40000/

Thoughts on his rules? For 25pts it seems like a good choice.

>>53061338
And who would these semem demons be?

>>53061354
Using him in Kill team tonight. There's going to be a butthurt Venomthrope.

>>53061336
Since it appears this editions will focus a LOT on heroes we may soon get some new chaos hero sculpts. Praying for new abaddon myself even though I hate black legion. I just wanna get in on primarch like hype

>>53061336
who was the old protagonist of 40k

>>53061336
The protagonist of 40k is Your Guys.

>>53061384
_______Tau______

>>53061318
FW is an evil mastermind when it comes to makes more expensive models even more expensive.

>So, you like this unit, and want to be able to swap the weapon options between games ?
>Well too bad sucker, we only sell one of each weapon options in a bundle with three of those models ... and only a single one of them has one of the 5-6 weapon options
>Now pay up, and maybe we won't send your order whith half of the parts as miscasts.

If FW didn't send free replacement parts for the miscasts they send out people would have burned them on the stake a long time ago

>>53061274
Well, you've got Gargoyles. They blow, get rid of them. Upgrade those fleshborers to devourers on your Termagants. Consider taking another MC for synapse, or just some warriors.

>>53061370

Oh yeah I imagine he'd tear it up something fierce in Kill Team.

>>53061318
>Really like Dreadnoughts
>want to get a Leviathan
>46 Pounds
>well that's not so bad for a...
>without weaponry
Well shit. And it's not like he appears in any boxed game, so I could just buy one of those off ebay. Such is life.

>>53061369
anastasiya_kvitko and ohgeelizzyp and latex_lucy_official because I'm a fuckin degenerate