Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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first for woof pussy

>>53055405
First for going back

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>>53055416
It should be Fenris getting eaten by Leviathan, not Baal.

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Nid players, I'm looking at getting back into the game, since melee sounds like it will be fun.
How many boxes of hormagaunts should I buy in June? I was thinking 6, 4 squads of 18. Should I do more? Less?

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Which book will you get first?

>>53055458
Why would you want to play a shit tier army?

>>53055453
>Tyranids assimilate traits
>Yiffstealer cults

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>>53055484
Why does anyone play anything other than Riptide Tau?

>>53055458
>Start
>Collecting

>>53055458
Wait until the rules are out before you pick up anything. There's sadly a chance nids will be completely fucking worthless again.

Assuming their rules actually come out good though, a fairly decent amount would be around 40-60 horms. Over 70 is a just a little bit much but it's totally doable if you want a very swarm-heavy list.

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>>53055416
Need some Cat Guard too.

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>>53055495
I would gladly donate genetic material to the yiffstealers.

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>>53055504
I'm a nidzilla guy. Though I'm sick of Hive Tyrant: The List. And I have to give GW money so they know I support them. :^)
>>53055505
Waiting for the rules. Sounds like June though. Even if they are worthless I still might play them. That or some furfag Fenrisian list. I'm not a WAACfag.

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Fortifying this thread brothers!

>>53055593
Only after you go back to 1/b/4dd/fitlit/

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>I play Chaos Space Marines

Why don't bolters have shoulder stocks?

It's like the marines want to be inaccurate.

>>53055648
Because they have power armor, so they don't need the stabilization.

>>53055648
>needing a stock
>with an auto-sensing data-linked smartsuit and gyrofin ammunition
Yeah, where's their powder horn too, how do they reload without those?

guys i just realized something...

the new servohauler set is amazing for ork players.

The little vehicles can be converted to grot tanks and the claw itself with a bit of handiwork and a battlewagon can be converted to a lifta droppa.

or something i might try and do is mix this with the container set and convert it all into an ork 'waaagh train'

possibilities here are amazing!

>>53055705
I would post a slowpoke.jpg reaction image, but I can't be a dick to someone full of such pure and good enthusiasm for hobby conversions.

So what is tomorrow suppose to reveal for 8th ed?

>>53055717
Lore.

So now that WoM and GS have given us the perfect excuse to soft reboot the Space Wolves, would anyone else like to see a new direction for them where most of the gratuitous wolfiness and wolf unit are removed in favour for a stronger viking look?

>>53055719
Thank you anon

>>53055729
>implying the don't become actual werewolves with wolf-everything

>>53055717
They'll reveal that everything so far was fake and they're going to discontinue all of their miniature games so they can break into the pachinko machine market.

>>53055763
I think that would surely be the death of Games Workshop. They cant make a functioning Table top game how they hell are they going to make a pachinko game that people want to play.

>>53055763
>gw are actually just konami in disguise

So, what rule topics are left for them to tease?

We know FOCs and stuff are coming tomorrow. Could see them tease vehicles and (dis)embarkation rules. We also still need melee weapon stats. What else is there realistically?

>>53055780
komoney
goys workshop

>>53055717
>>53055719
>>53055732
This had better be good. This better not be "hey guys there are new space marines coming and they're even smarter, stronger, and have even more powers than a regular marine to help the Imperium against the forces of chaos."

I think they're trying to actually use the narrative as a tool to phase out the current marine miniatures. Is this how we're going to update miniatures now?? Say that every time a miniature gets an update, A NEW BREED HAS ARISEN, give me a break.

>>53055793
start teasing some army specifc rules.
like how synapse or the new chapter tactics work.

>>53055699
Don't you know why the pauldrons are there? They store the powder horn, ball, and patch!
They use their inert dicks as the ramrods, though.

>>53055812
They'll probably be Thunder Warriors 1.5, kinda like the Marines Corvus Corax used. The Mechanicus part was just to make them more stable, but something something HARD TO GET RESOURCES, so they'll be an elite troop, like Grey Knights.

Screenshot this and think back at it when the truth is revealed.

Where the hell is the new White Dwarf?
May 4th and still the April edition on the shelves

>>53055853
It's out on May 5th.
I already have it

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>>53055593

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http://natfka.blogspot.com/2017/05/new-insights-and-rules-for-8th-edition.html?m=1

>deathwing and GK are great again

>>53056042
>(((naftka)))
stop

>>53056042

They still will be slow after they deepstrike or get out of a transport. Either way, it wouldn't be surprising if the meta swung to favor some less used units to an extent.

>>53056042
>Assaulting units get +1 attack
this puts doubt on the whole list, as its been implied to not be the case already

Why did it take them so long, 2.5 years they are claiming, when all they did was copy paste age of sigmar?

>>53056125
Because Age of Sigmar was a beta test for the new 40k?

>>53056125
This bait stopped being effective ages ago

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What faction do you all play, and why do you play it?

>>53055461
all of them probably

that said they already confirmed that the books are imperium, chaos, and then three xenos books (think of the really cheap grand alliance death book), it'll probably be eldar, nids, and then orks+necrons

>>53056042
>Black Templar Neophytes buff
Confirmed false news. They wouldn't give BTs any upside.

>>53056138
Thousand Sons, space wizards are super cool, Egyptian space wizards are even cooler.

>>53056148
>Nids getting a wholr book
Yeah right.

>>53055501
Because running fire warrior spam makes you play imperial guard but better

>>53056138
Dark Angels because I fucking hate traitor scum also Deathwing and Ravenwing have god tier lore and aesthetic.

And in higher point games I throw in Officio Assassinorum because they vaguely remind me of Solid Snake.

>>53056138
Pretty much >>53056155
Also Necrons because they're space egyptians with super high tech

>>53055458
Get the Swarm box, it has 4 boxes worth and a ton of other nids

>>53056148
Tau and Crons will probably share a book and Mods will get lumped in with Genestealers and Orks, as the former two are shooting armies and civilzed empires where the latter 3 are melee-ish hordes of barbarians/monsters.

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>>53056138
Tyranids.

A galactic horror from another galaxy made up of hyperevolved super-predators who's only goal is to consume.

Pretty fuckin' rad.

Not to mention GSC have an Old Gods kinda feel, and I love that shit too (same reason that I like Necrons)

>>53056162
Tyranids and GSC are two armies. That's the same amount of armies that would be in the chaos book.

>>53056042
>- Invulnerable saves simply ignore armour penetration up to the given value. They are not that common, wave serpents and Canoptek wraiths have one
Of course why wouldn't the most common Eldar transport get one, hope you like your lascannons being as effective as lasguns
>- Most power fields, etc. are separate saves that are taken in addition to other saves just like FnP of today, they may or may not ignore mortal wounds on a case by case basis
If Orks keep their Kustom Forcefields, I wonder if it will still be a bubble
>- Deepstriking units can be placed anywhere. Every unit with deep strike has a value. Have to beat it to land on target, otherwise opposing player can move unit the rolled distance
>- There are no mishaps anymore
Works for me.
>- Most vehicles have a single attack with high S, but no AP, some have considerably more like the battle waggon
>- No more firing from a transport, though some vehicles, especially open topped ones have extra firing points weapons if they transport enough (and sometimes eligible) models. But they use their own BS and the kind of weapon is fixed. For example Raiders have 5 fire point splinter rifles, but only if they transport kabalite warriors
At last some news on how they were going to work with the removal of unit types.
>- Command points allow to reroll saves, hits, wounding or charge distance, reroll any single dice throw, negate all terrain in 12” of one of your models, alter the attack sequence, boost psychic block rolls, allow additional reserves and allow units to get another charge phase after wiping out an enemy
Does that mean a Ynnari unit might be able to charge three times a turn?

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I have not cared about 40k long enough to witness transition to 7th ED, but is there some correlation between end of edition and amount of vigorous shit posting?
I don't remember this general to be /v/ level of cesspool-

>>53056205
Don't forget that Thousand Sons and Death Guard are now their own armies and that KDK probably still has separate rules.

>>53056219
I have not cared about 40k long enough to witness transition to 7th ED, but is there some correlation between end of edition and amount of vigorous shit posting?
I don't remember this general to be /v/ level of cesspool-

>>53056228
This is true, however there's nothing stopping GW from doing the same thing with Tyranids.

>Hive Fleet DISTRACTION CARNIFEX
Codex dedicated to a more Nidzilla style nid army

>Hive Fleet sneaky faggots
A codex dedicated to genestealers, lictors, deep strike shenanigans, etc

>>53056148
My guess is probably; Imperium, Chaos, Tau+Necrons, Tyranids+Orks and Eldar+DEldar.

>>53056249
Get real they're never doing that for xenos that aren't Eldar, it took them over a decade to do it for Chaos even.

So since we know new factions are on the way, what would you guys like to see? I'd like Chaos to be as fleshed out as the Imperium is at the moment considering they said there's a renewed focus on Imperium vs. Chaos, but I'm hoping they don't leave Xenos factions in the dust. An entirely new Xenos faction like the Tau would be cool too, but I don't know if current Games Workshop can pull it off.

>>53056289
Non FW Traitor Guard support would be my biggest wish, Dark Ad Mech with access to all the crazy and heretical HH era robots but now more corrupted would also be cool.
For Xenos I'd hope to see Tau auxiliaries fleshed out more and some Exodite Eldar would be great.

>perfect deepstrike and charging too
>overwatch against the above is almost full BS

Sounds exciting, legitimately

>>53056042
FAKE NEWS
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>>53056042
>Characters cannot join units

well we know some of the list is wrong. in the livestream QnA they discussed a space marine captain joining guardsmen squads but with less benefits as an example of the keyword-special rule interactions.

>>53056190
>>53056255

Why is everyone saying Tau and Necrons will share a book?
Do they have anything at all in common?
Is there any clear reason why they were allies of convenience in 7ed?

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>>53056175
I just Started some Dark Angels and gosh I just want a boatload of Ravenwing.

>>53056042
>all those prediction already proven false via live stream or facebook
really got my noggin' joggin', my almond activated and my gears a turning

>>53056404
They're both high tech xenos empires that aren't so xenophobic as to be beyond diplomacy and they're both shooting armies that suck at melee and have no psykers..

>>53056289
Tau could get an auxiliaries book.
mostly Kroot, vespid and gue'vessa. Maybe add Nicassar and Demiurge from BFG. Limited actual tau presences
as command or advisor options.

now that the new GW sales policies are in place allowing webstores, what are some good web stores to buy GW stuff in the US?

>>53056425

There are some incidental similarities,
but I mean fluff wise, have they ever actually teamed up in any significant way?

also, necron flayed ones are some of the best cc units in the game, imo

>>53056404
the xenos books aren't alliances. its just packageing mulptile codexs for easier publishing. People are speculating they be togther because they have some themic similarities, codex xenos empires

>>53055812
The new marines are an elite choice, not a new army.

>>53056429
The Nagi are probably going to be introduced in some capacity as a way to give Tau psykers.

>>53056437
necrons saved some tau from a tyranid splinterfleet once.

>>53056437
Farsight is also pretty good at melee,
your point?

>>53056444
yeah. them or the nicassar.

auxilarries seems the most straightforward way to give tau something for the psychic phase.

>>53056249
Theu've been including rules for things like that in AoS, so probably.

Different Tzeentch cults, Daemon hosts, Skyports, etc.

>>53056445

I thought they went on to kill the Tau after.
Am I misremembering?

>>53056447

nothing really, just felt like mentioning it

>>53056445
>"saved"

>>53056458
maybe.
i might be remembering wrong too

>>53056404
Mostly because they're the leftovers who don't make sense going in another codex. Eldar, DEldar and Harlequins make sense going in a book together, and Tyranids and Genestealer Cults makes sense too. Throw in Orks with them because they're kind of similar in being unstoppable Xenos hordes, and the Xenos you're left over with are Tau and Necrons. Unless they've got a whole new Xenos faction planned that'll launch with 8th, but that's unlikely.

>Split fire: any unit can target as many targets as they want
This seems a pretty random rule to add, but it could actually make differentiating the weapons in a heavy weapon squad worth it
>Invulnerable saves simply ignore armour penetration up to the given value
>Most power fields, etc. are separate saves that are taken in addition to other saves just like FnP of today, they may or may not ignore mortal wounds on a case by case basis
I could see them giving the terminators both effects, since technically their invulnerable saves are given by a power field around them. This would make them ridiculously resistant
>Larger models are seldom characters, Gulliman is not for example
I don't even understand what this mean
>Deepstriking units can be placed anywhere. Every unit with deep strike has a value. Have to beat it to land on target, otherwise opposing player can move unit the rolled distance
>There are no mishaps anymore
I'm completely fine with this
>Overwatch shooting against deep striking units within 9” at -1 BS
Could this actually be the start of the terminator era?
>Assaulting units get +1 attack
After all they said that attacking first is the only assault bonus we know about "right now"
>There are some precision weapons that let the firing player choose the wound allocation (always or on a 6)
I would expect every precision rifle to do that on a 6 and the Vindicare to do it always
>Player can spend command points to choose who goes first instead of rolling, whoever spends more
So you can actually bait your opponent into spending a tons of points to go first, but then find out that he doesn't have enough command points to do almost anything else, while you can reroll everything and charge/shoot anything any way you want

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>>53056452
>the new Tau psyker unit will be one of these but with a flat polar bear in it

>>53056404
I think they were allies of convenience based on location. On the galactic map the Tau Empire is a small space wedged between a couple of big Necron Dynasties, so it's in their best interests to suck up to them even without trying to convert them to the Greater Good. Newcrons aren't completely mindless killing machines like Oldcrons (at least not the Lords and other higher ranking ones who actually control what's going on somewhat) and aren't anywhere near as xenophobic as the other races. They probably feel for the Tau a bit, they were both the underdogs and lesser race in a big galactic war in their time.

>>53056138
I started Sisters of Battle because they're my fetish
Turns out I also like how they play

>>53056474
I feel oike the books won't be called grand alliances.

Probably Index Imperialis, Chaotica and Xenos.

Later we'll see Battletome equivelants.

>>53056138
Imperial Guard because I was conscripted and got a massive stockholm syndrome.

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>>53055453
Nah, Tzeentch has already marked that territory. That's why the natives are giving birth to bird monsters.

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What are you guys working on right now?

>>53056507

That's a perfectly logical theory, but my question is more about whether there's been anything officially confirmed that links them together at all.

>>53056138
Thousand sons and Necrons because for some reason I just can't stay away from Space Egyptians.

>inb4 we wuz kangs.

>>53056549
Not really.

>>53056548
I noticed I glued my Stompa's head on crooked and it's giving me massive autism.

>>53056548
Horms and Terms.

Always more of them to paint.

>>53056549
Not that I'm aware of, that was just me pulling shit from my ass based on the little we know and the most likely route GW would go down if it did end up happening.

>>53056548
Starting a Necron army but 8th is just around the corner so I thought i'd play it safe and just get Warriors for now. Troops are always useful to some degree.

>>53056548
RWBK and considering how I want to do a libby biker to lead them

>>53056559
We Wuz Magicians and shit!

>>53056548
Finishing up Magnus and starting to block out the colors on my Hathor-maato kitbash/conversion.

>>53056566
>ork models
>crooked
That's not a bug, that's a feature, anon.

>>53055501
Some people aren't massive faggots?

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>>53056548
Seekers of Slaanesh and noise marines

>>53056548
I'm working on my first troupe of Harlequins
The most difficult thing is magnetizing the arms, since I want to play them in both 40k and SW:A, but the weapons you want to give them are completely different, but their arms are so thin that I've found myself forced to cut their shoulder and making them a new one with green stuff with the magnet inside

About the colors I'm painting them in analogous of blue, with the band on their waist golden. I'm still thinking about the colors of the crests. I'm currently considering red, white and green like my country's flag but I want first to see if it can fit with the rest of the color scheme

>>53056578
To be fair Thousand Sons are a mixture of Ptolemaic dynasty Egyptians and Zoroastrians, so their going to be either White or Persian.

>>53055712
/tg/ is the least dickish board... and then I remembered I just posted this >>53056588

>>53056548
Badly painting my deathwing

>>53056548
Almost finish my BAs orbital force.

>>53056580
It's breaking my heart
Also I'm trying really hard not to glue everything together before painting but it's a losing battle

>>53056597
So the flesh change was because of rampant Xwedodah?

>>53056548
Orkz, i'm stripping my boyz and painting em up as blud axes.

>>53056548
I honestly can't find much motivation to work on anything with 8th around the corner. Not so much anything to do with the rules, I just don't feel like getting an army all ready to play only to have to remake it entirely.

I might get around to painting some Rangers for SW:A though.

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>>53056548
dis

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>>53056548
The last of the Tau, then we're onto the Sisters. >:D

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>>53056699
well my version of that, heres the first few models.

>>53056710
She didn't start out dressed like that. She just got too close to the flames.

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>>53056718
It's certainly one excuse for getting out of that tight, restrictive armor...

>>53056588
>play a shit-tier army
>play a massive faggot army
Pick one.

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>>53056839
In 3 months

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>>53056839
female space marines are coming in 8th ed, dont worry

>tfw when plastic sisters and new rules are released your old metal models won't have all the nifty op stuff

>>53056884
At that point be thankful you got anything at all

>>53055812
New marines types are fucking retarded, Astertes should remain astartes and nothing but that. Creating a divide in the sub-faction itself is batshit retarded.

I'm hopefully expting it to just be a new mark of armour and a rapid indoctrination and transformation process spearheaded by Cawl. We know geneseed can become unstable, we know that when the primarchs were united with their legions their numbers boomed (stabilisation and what not) due to the original genetic template being available. GW should just write it as Roboute and Cawls project to field a new armour and quickly replinish the losses being suffered in these cataclysmic times.

>>53056839
Q3 2018. My dad is Nintendo, you can trust me.

>>53056839
never ever

>>53056921
there already are different marine types

JUST REVEAL THE FIVE BOOKS ALREADY REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>53056974
rules
fluff
imperium
chaos
xenos

no need to thank me m8

>>53055888
Fucking shared then.

>>53057024
It's in german though and I wont come home for another 2 hours.

>>53056138
Black Templars because Space Crusaders is what all Marines should be and are cool as fuck.

AdMech because beep-boop domo arigato, mister Roboto.

>>53057039
Anything interesting in it for 40k?

>>53057039
I'll gladly translate it if you do post it once you get home and can't be arsed to do so yourself.

>>53055853
I have it too, in English.

It's a lot of looking back at WD history.

>>53057048
>>53057057
Most of it is just about the 40 years of WD, it's not that interesting. But I guess I can scan it then.

>>53055458
>I was thinking 6, 4 squads of 18. Should I do more? Less?
Did you see any 8e point values and rules for gaunts? Yeah, me too. So how do you want us to know how many models should be used per unit in new edition?

>>53056138
Dark angels because I like the sword angel iconography and the Ravenwing.

>>53056975
nah. we know it's 5 books of armylists.

likely guesses are Imperium, chaos, eldar, xenos and either space marines or a second xenos book.

>>53057085
Because generally shit doesn't change that drastically over editions. But thanks for going out of your way to give me a shitty reply 4 hours later.

>>53057058
>a history of shopping catalogs

Well if they focus a lot on the 80s and 90s editions when it wasn't even a 40k-specific magazine it will be interesting lel.

>>53057095
Except the entire point of this edition is pretty much a clean slate.

>>53057089
Probs the marine book, given they are the big heros of the setting (actual fluff notwithstanding)

>>53057099
It mostly is.

There's like a paragraph on when it was weekly.

>>53057095
>Because generally shit doesn't change that drastically over editions
>Said anon when the most drastic changes in 40k since stone age are coming

>>53057095
>Because generally shit doesn't change that drastically over editions

The current change is on the same level as the difference between Rogue Trader and 3rd, they are completely sigmarizing the game and it's not going to look anywhere as familiar as 7th. So it really is a waste of time to try to figure out competitive units/lists at this point.

So in 8th, it'd be more effective to do a Flamer/Heavy Flamer combo instead of double Flamers?
This is assuming, of course, you don't shoot yourself out of range.

>>53057131
Considering we haven't even seen the profile for heavy flamers yet we have literally no way of knowing yet. And that's assuming units with flamers don't all get special rules.

>>53057095
I know nothing about 8th ed: the post.

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Among all this 8e posting, can I ask for some feedback on this list I'll be running on Saturday?

I'm not sure on how to equip the Skitarii and wether to give them 2 Arc Rifles in one squad and the other empty (since I unfortunately don't have more than 2 Arc Rifles prepared), give each squad 1 Rifle, do the same with Plasma Calivers or generally how to do this. Best solution would probably be to give each squad 2 Arc Rifles, but I sadly don't have that many and it's WYSIWYG.

>>53057089
Almost positive it's the following:

Space Marines (Vanilla with Chapter Tactics for each, Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Space Wolves, Grey Knights, Deathwatch)

Other Imperium (Guard, Inquisition, Sisters of Battle, AdMech, Imperial Knights)

Chaos (Traitor Legions, Daemons, Renegade Knights)

Aeldari (Craftworlds, Dark Eldar, Ynnari, Harlequins)

Other Xenos (Tau, Necrons, Orks, Tyranids, Genestealer Cults)

Armies included in the same book do not necessarily have to have alliances with each other, although most of them will except the last book.

>>53057146
You may as well just give one skitarii squad both plasma calivers and have him serve as your warloard since the warlord in a skitarii maniple gets prefered enemy. One squad with special weapons and one naked vanguard squad is still fairly effective.

>>53056884

>Buying new infantry for the first time in 15 years

I'll live.

Are the old formations going to carry over to 8th edition?

I don't wanna loose my hellcult formation

>>53057171
We just don't know. If they do, they'll cost points.

>>53057162
I suppose that would be an option. Would've otherwise made the Datasmith into my Warlord, since he'll be pretty hard to take down with those Kastelans in his unit

>>53057158
yeah seems right.

gives the books an evenish size and as much as possible is themed.

Does magnus know horus orchestrated the burning of prospero?

>>53057100
>>53057121
>>53057125
Yeah, so the cheap swarm melee unit that runs between 10-30 models is now going to be super expensive and only run 5-10 models? Because muh new edition?
God you people are fucking retarded.

>>53056717
>Giant mechanical squig
May Morkai grace me.

>>53057171
the current formations will be invalid.

rumour is 8e will still have formations so there may be a new version of the hellcult.

How each alliance should be:

Space Marines
Imperium (Highlords of Terra spread propaganda that Gulliman is a Xenofucker and heretic who will sell out humanity to the enemy, everyone in the Imperium getting mad)
Chaos
Aeldari
Orks
Tau
Necrons
Tyranids

>>53057224
seems likely.

>>53057215
You were asking how many squads you should bring for an edition where we have no idea how effective they will actually be or if the squad sizes will be exactly the same. There's no need to be a massive sperg.

>>53056975
rules are 12 pages
i wouldnt call that a book.
Chances are (I hope) they give the rules the AoS treatment where the rules are in the back of each book

>>53057224
Well they did let a Xeno put his fingers on. They are half correct.

Since people here love BL lore, the Eldar have dick over humans so much that it hurts. Hell a single Eldar can kill 20+ Custodes no problem and call it diplomacy.

>>53057243
They specifically also said that there'll be book releases along the way at some point.

>>53057243
GW already confirmed that. The five books will have the 12 pages rules at their last segment.

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Why didn't schismatics migrate to their own thread yet?
I'm not even joking - a lot on Anons already said that they will not jump into 8th edition and gonna stick with 7e. With so many exiters /7eg/ would be not as dead as fantasy general at least. Everything they have now to do is to copy the links from OP's post and re-name the thread as /7eg/ or something like that. Now all their posts about lists and 7e rules are just lost among all these 8e posts.

>>53057254
will the books contain hobby segments and fluff or just unit entries and rules?

>>53057215
>Yeah, so the cheap swarm melee unit that runs between 10-30 models is now going to be super expensive and only run 5-10 models?
No but they could have new bonuses based on the number of models in your unit dummy.

>>53057215
Cheap horde units could become completely fucking useless trash in the new edition. So you don't know. It could work out that taking masses of gaunts are a waste of time in 8th and the meta will be taking MCs etc. if you don't want to auto-lose even worse than the current setup. I don't know your reason for fielding that unit. Daily reminder that butthurtly talking retarded shit is also a waste of time, nobody cares if you think other people are retarded.

>>53055458
We really aren't going to be able to answer this question till June.

>>53056508
how they play?

>>53057264
Or people migrate into 8e threads as 7e is still the current system and the way 40k is played.

Or we don't act like spergs and create pointless generals that will be DOA when it's all 40k related and is what this thread is meant to mostly contain.

>>53057265
The 5 upcoming books to start everyone off will just be rules and maybe a page a fluff on each sub faction. They are like old Grand Alliance books, except that everything inside doesn't automatically get to work together with everything else. They are there to be place holders till they finish the codexes and start rolling those out.

>>53057308
sentence should result in an autoban. for some reason mods won't ban you despite reports of multiple people, or you're just circumventing.

>>53056289

1) Bring back lost and damned with relevant Dork Admech heretic included
2) Tau Auxiliaries and Exodite Eldar
3) For New faction will never happen but Rak'gol or Hrud or a straight up new xenos race. Alternatively it goes against the Grimderp nature but plays to the grand alliance if you could see another diplomatic-capable xenos race (which would disqualify Rak'Gol) less aligned to the imperium like the "I can't get enough of Gullyman's abs" Ynnari and old eldar. As right now I feel like it's becoming Imperium+Ynnari+Craftworlds+Harlequins and then you've got Crons and Tau standing around in the small-empire club. Maybe with exodites unless Yvraine can convince them how awsum Robo-Gillymen is.

>>53057158

I can dig it.

>>53057330
Go back to 1d4ddit

>>53056884
well thank god plastic sisters aren't coming

>tfw Black Templars will never not be Vanilla Marines again
It hurts to be dumped in with these codex compliant fucks, Brethren.

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>I play khaos kosmos spetsnaz.

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>>53055509
I would grab that pussy.

>>53057224

They really goofed so badly with calling them alliances. How did they expect people to imagine the Tau, Crons, orks and tyranids working together?

The obvious and easiest solution would have been "Choose your race: Imperium, Xenos, Chaos". Boom, no worry about grand alliance silliness. Chaos is a little bit of an outlier since it's not a race but whatever. Or just do what >>53056509 says.

>>53056548
Nowt, I'm wait for the 8th to drops so I can decide whether to start a new army (Fallen, probably using Alpha legion rules) or expand my guard

>>53057212
Yes he does. He knew right after he got the demon treatment.

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>>53057306
>as 7e is still the current system and the way 40k is played
Generals go with editions and 8e is announced tho. But the point is that a lot of people cried about how much they hate new edition and already talked their play-groups to stay with 7e. Why not also make a separate general?

>>53057365
They haven't called them Aliences though. We the 4Chan users have.

RIP Fallen
RIP Khorne Daemonkin
RIP Militarum Tempestus
RIP Cult Mechanicus
RIP Skiitari
RIP Renegade Knights

>>53057365
>They really goofed so badly with calling them alliances

GW haven't called them anything, the only things they've said is that there will be 5 books on release.

>>53057377
Because 8e is still not here. What you're suggesting is like telling people in the MtG Standard general to fuck off to Frontier/Modern generals because rotation is coming and they are brewing with stuff that's rotating out soon.

>>53057358
huh? when did that happen? I love my templars, they better not be complying to the codex now

>>53057380
We haven't had any indication of that.

>>53056717
>Sideways Profile
>WaacFag

Fuck off 8th ed is not for you.

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>>53057387
>He is equating rotation of cards in not-changing game with full-on rules and game system rearrangement
If you say so

>>53057380
You do realize that Cult Mechanics (with Skiitari) are confirmed for getting their own codex Later right? Renegade Knights are not likely to get their own Codex but they also aren't going anywhere and will be in the Chaos main book.

Military Tempestus is likely going to be getting merged back into the guard, and thus be a subsection of the Guard.

Khorne Daemonkin are confirmed as just becoming a subsection of the Khorne stuff and will likely be getting back all their special fluff when the Wold Eaters Legion book comes out.

>>53056215
Wait so guard veteran squads can't fire at BS 4 out the back of a chimera?
Gay

>>53057406
Their organization, tactics and opinions are still very much not compliant, far less so than even Dark Angels, but their stance on Psykers has been loosened, now accepting Astropaths and other imperially sanctioned Psykers and a 6e BL book mentioned their size being only around 1500-2000 Marines rather than the previous 6k+ (though that was never mentioned again anywhere else).

Also, they obviously don't count as a unique army like Wolves and both Angels.

>>53057377
But if you were going to play on a better legacy system WHY would you pick 7th?

>>53057425
Fuck I only just saw that, super gay.

>>53057441
Rip mechanized lists

>>53057423
It's the same situation. Hell, such drastic change is even more reason to not send the people using the current rules and talking about what is currently legal off to another thread.
What's coming in 1 or 2 months is absolutely irrelevant to how the game is actually played right now, until that new stuff comes.

>>53057389
yeah yeah, go suck your girlfriends dick.

>>53057425
Chimeras were the first to have their own guns.

Ergo they are going to be the most awesome.
FULL BROADSIDE

>>53057435
Because he's shitposting. Even the image he posted was just a really shitty attempt at shitposting and baiting people.

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>>53057435
>But if you were going to play on a better legacy system WHY would you pick 7th?
Have no idea mate. Some people know only the one taste

>>53057420
How is that WAac?

>>53055780
Erotic Violence!

Slaanesh time to shine!

>>53057459
>most awesome
>just have a bunch of lasguns on the back
Fuck that, I'd rather be firing meltas or plasmas out of the back.

>>53055780
>Warhammer 40k: Survival

>>53057446
Good thing I only own 1 chimera.

>>53057273
Cheap Horde units typically get a lot stronger, and as others have pointed out since the moral looks to be copied from AOS you are likely to get a +1 Moral bonus for being at over ten, then other for being at 20, and it keeps going up for every 10 you bring to the maximum size of the unit.

So Yeah big Horde armies tend to be really good.

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>>53057381
>>53057379

My bad, I meant on the website. Though it's side not alliance. That's not as bad but it still felt like a bit of a fax piss.

>>53057478
You yourself said you did it in order to fit better between models.
Making model changes for better game winning potential = WAAC

>>53057504
Last I heard hoard armies in AoS are mostly shit outside of one specific build. But then again I don't play AoS so I can only rely on what I hear from people.

And besides, we don't know anything about how synapse creatures will work or what special rules units will have so it's far to early to say "hoards will be a lot better"

>>53057485
Lasguns in tanks are the new meta, now that having 10 dudes not in a chimera means they'll instantly battleshock themselves to death.

>>53057527
>it's far to early to say "hoards will be a lot better"
It's also to early to say "hoards will be dead and shit" but last 2 generals were shitted up with shitposting like this

Is there a PDF of the May White Dwarf?

>>53057264
>Why didn't schismatics migrate to their own thread yet?
because the schism in fabtasy was mostly caused by lore; we still haven't seen the same amount or quality of shitstorms

>>53057534
To be fair as long as they're at least ld6 they'll need to take 3 or 4 wounds before you're at any real risk of a vet squad all running off of the table. And the new armor system looks like it makes carapace slightly better, add in cover and vets might be a bit more survivable. They're just sorta doing fuck all while driving to the objective.

>>53057559
I think vet weapon teams will be the new meta what with being able to move and shoot heavy weapons now.

>>53057559
Come to think of it they haven't said anything about how battleshock will work with special weapons guys.

>>53056125
Because they pulled in all the most Munchkin, Munchkins who keep breaking their game, finding combos they never intended, and paying the meta in ways they don't expect, handed them the rules for all the units in the game at once, and the rules for the game and said "BREAK IT!" And then they took the big ass list of broken shit, fixed that got those people back together and said "Okay Break it?" And again they did so. And they kept coming back until the people who Make shit they never expect (because they keep play testing with the same studio armies from 10 years ago rather than adjusting them to their own new meta) said "yeah if you do this, this, and this, that thing there becomes a little broken, but not horribly so. It's manageable.

>>53057423
Why this bitch remind me of the blind thot from JoJolion?

Remove Nids and Orks

>>53057590
you'll probably just get to pick which guys die.

Is it worth buying space marines if they about to change them?

>>53056717
I love that giant squig.

>>53057590
They said on facebook that multi-wound models are affected the same way as single wound models so they'll be able to run away the same way a single guardsman will. Though if it's like AoS you just pick models to remove.

>>53057614
you'll want some basic troops. numarines aren't going to replace the whole army. they'll be an elite choice or something.

>>53057614
they are not going to change, but add new shit

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2017/05/40k-rumors-8th-ed-latest-batch.html

BOLS has also compiled a list including faiets rumours.

>>53057630
For all we know they're the new tactical kit.
>>53057614
Just wait for 8th. At the very worst you'll be able to get cheap units off of ebay from people that ragequit.

>>53057224
IOM and spess marines shouldn't be separate.

>>53057591
I doubt GW play tested AoS 2.0, I think they just added the suggestion from AoS. Since that game is brain dead and easy as fuck to abuse. Fun game thou, but still a bad system.

So do we know if the death Guard are getting their own Codex? If so, will the other dedicated Traitor Legions follow?

>>53057647
They should be, because the Imperium doesn't trust other chapters that aren't Ultramarines.

>>53057646
Seeing as they're the same size as Deathwatch and Thousand Sons, I'm pretty much certain they're the new tactical.

>>53057663
i'm sure there will be new legion rules when they release new miniatures

i pray we get new orks and chaos marine troop models

>>53057665
They are small as fuck, they should be at best for narrative games. I can live with the, being an extra for other imperial armies.

But since GW since Marines do the job of Guard we have 6+ rules for the same fucking army.

>>53057663
Well Thousand Sons are already getting their own rules so most likely yes, the rest of the cult legions should follow.

>>53057693
Why NOT seperate them from the Imperium?

At least the Imperial Guard aren't bitchboys anymore and they have the Sisters of Battle to support them.

>>53057668
Oh so you've physically inspected them? Keep spouting shit

>>53057713
is this, dare i say, the start of Imperium Secundus?

>>53057713
Because they are part of the Imperium. Without it they are fuck. Hell even Chaos marines need the Imperium for resources and other stuff.

They can't solo the Galaxy, not even during the great crusade they could do that. They need the Imperium and the Imperium needs them not fucking around so much and do their fucking job.

Per the rumor that leaked Numarines months in advance, GW plans to replace all marines with true scale eventually. So expect similar if not outright identical loadouts. If anything you'll just have to field them as counts as normal marines until small marines are phased out.

>>53056138
Guard because tanks are neato.

>>53057735
We know the size of the base guardsman is on (25mm because that's the only size they ever made round slotted bases is) in the picture, from there it's easy to scale the image to other images and when you do that the model is about the same size as the new Deathwatch and Thousand Sons models.

>>53057766
I remember no such thing.

>>53057766
But anon the marines are to scale, they are just squating in memory of the Squats.

The problem is the Xbox huge guardsmen model they are super big for no reason.

>>53057496
>Good thing I only own 1 chimera.
And here i have 3 and one self made Taurox.

>>53056138
d-99 because I always wanted to play halo in 40k and d-99 is close enough to ODST squads riding in pelicans/dropping from above and other air support

>>53057766
Is this, dare I say it, the power of 'we planned on nuking the setting in the same way we did WHFB but changed our minds due to the absolutely abhorrent reception AoS got but were too far along in designing and producing the new minis that we couldn't start over and are now forcing owners of the most popular faction to rebuild their armies from scratch'?

>>53056138
Eldar because a superior alien race that still strives for perfection and yet has a dark side/past it struggles with is so much more interesting than roided marine #69.

>>53056138
Alpha legion
Genuninly because i like being a dick.
What? you tried to shoot me? shrounded, and infiltrait!
Tanks and termintors? Chosen with special weapon everywhere
That rule that lets me re-genrate a warlord everytime the old one dies: CLASSIC!
love it, best army, i hope i can continue being dick in 8th

>>53057802
No, I think Kirby wanted to squat the setting still, but Rountree is smarter than that.

>>53057802
No, it's always been a pain point that marines aren't as big as they are in lore, but replacing them will cause outrage from 70% of the playerbase.

>>53057796
Elysia is cool in theme but I can't stand those forgeworld infantry models but those armored cars are sweet as hell it just sucks that the base ones have shitty grenade launchers or flamethrowers. They should have had autocannons and shit like sentinels.

>>53057808
As I am Alpharius, I approve of this.
>>53057805
>strives for perfection
>has a dark side/past is struggles with
This is really low quality bait, just leave already

>>53057843
Eldar actually pour their lives into their chosen paths, marines are made the way they are. You are some lazy motherfucking neckbeards who like lazy marines.

>>53057365
You're fucking dumb and I hope you die in a housefire.

>>53057614
I would just wait man. Of course people are going to say all kinds of shit like
>dude basic marines are still going to be the same you always need troops blah blah blah

but nah. Marines change every edition, in the sense that what *you* want to field changes. So it depends on how you want to play 8th edition. 8th edition is not released yet. Since the possibility exists that you will buy some space marines models now, then want to change whatever you did with them in a month or two, just wait. You might decide that you only want to field scouts. Or have a bike army. If those are things.

>>53056548
Mordians and a Hellhound. Should be playing an infantry spam Eldar army next Wednesday so I'm also bringing infantry spam.

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>>53056138
Tyranids

because I think they look cool

>>53057805
roided marine #69 > 1000 years old jedi loser

>>53057868
Bitch go back to the kitchen

>>53057805
Ahh so you know nothing of marine fluff?
good to know

>>53057858
So you know nothing about Marine lore then. Nice!

>i play eldar, m'lady *tips*

>>53057869
Nuanced race with several paths and storied martial traditions and complex relationships with the other side of the coin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the emprahhhh imma neckbeard

>>53057901
This reads like something that Chrischan's half brother wrote in one of his shitty film reviews.

>>53057881
>unsheathes Witchblade
>'Leave the Lady be, Mon-Keigh scum!'

>>53057879
>>53057881
Daddy E looks for his sons and creates boring super soldiers. Some infighting between the boring soldiers and chaoyawnnnn

>>53057918
>>53057881
>>53057879
The real solution here is to just play Necrons instead.

>>53057918
Yeah you actually know nothing about Marines, Fedordar player.

>>53057930
>WE

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>civilian autists obsessed with tanks and field muh guard and read war novels and war history

it's a similar cringe to people who worship ninjas but don't into martial arts themselves. they're like groupies with some silly infatuation for something they're not a part of.

t. real life zog warrior

>>53057834
Tauroses are shit in the new codex since they lost they ability to take tracking beacons.
Tauros venators get multilasers/lascannons so I guess that's an improvement bu av10 all round and 2hp is shit.
I personally quite like the models but I get recasts because in dollarydoos buying fw is expensive af and chinacast ends up being faster for shipping as well
They have drop sentinels which get deep strike but they only get heavy bolters/multimeltas/flamers and they also get bs4 because everyone is a vet. Unfortunately they suffer from the same problem all sentinels do in 7th edition, they're shit.
You mentioned autocannons, which is one of the 2 heavy weapons we lack, the other being lascannons, but that is compensated by the ability to mass extreme low strength and extremely high strength weapons with low ap like executioner squads where you get up 10 guys with 9 special weapons that deep strike, and giving them twin linked is pretty easy as well.
I see that a lot of people hate the elysian models which is fair enough, hopefully during 8th edition IA15 will update them. Since the last update they had was 4th edition and tau was 3rd, and they're next so elysians are up for new models/rules which is nice. Maybe check them out then.
>>53057881
>lazy neckbeards who like lazy marines
I actually play farsight tau and d-99 since I enjoy combines arms armies. Also the fluff was d-99 is pretty good as I enjoy the stories of the inquisitor going around creating uberguardsmen.
While farsight tau I play since I like tau aircraft and I joined during 4th edition when the auxiliaries meant something
I actually never considered playing space marines in the first place.
>>53057930
You know what, you're right, crons are actually very toasty, but let's wait for 8th before we make any rash decisions

>>53057933
> implying yawn doesn't encapsulate all that is fartartes

>>53056138
Chaos Marines: Emperor's Children with Daemon Allies: Why? Because I love the though of pushing to perfection, of striving for eternal beauty, martial Perfection, and the though of living a pleasure seeking life given how much I normally cannot do to social constraints sounds fun in a game setting. They are basically Dark, Hedonistic, Space Knights and I love them for that.

I also pay Grey Knights: Because I have this whole inner knight in shinning armor complex and grey knights are the apotheosis of this.

>>53057935
cool story bro

>>53057946
>implying fedora doesn't encapsulate every single fedordar weebshit player

>muh japanese people who refuse to fuck each other, pilot giant psychic robots and shoot shurikens IN SPEEHHSSSSSSSSSSSS

>>53057942
People say they like combined arms until the Eldar bring foot infantry, cavalry (jetbikes), elite infantry, armor, air force and Wraithknights then suddenly it's cheese

>>53057974
Shuriken naming is dumb but the tech is fascinating, unlike big dumb assault rifles shoots grenades for the emprahhh stroke my beckbeard

>>53057916
"I swear If I have to pilot this dreadnaught over there to split you two kids up I will split you with this Reaper Autocannon!"

>>53057990
>MUH FASCINATING TECHNOLOGY
>WHAT'S WHAT WRAITHKNIGHTS ARE BASICALLY EVANGELIONS IN SPACE? SHIT IGNORE THAT YOU DUMB NECKBEARD PRAISE MUH PRESHUS POINTY EARS

So what do you think, can Robert Girlyman succeed with the indomitus crusade and ensure the success of new pricier GW models?

>>53057995
> implying a dreadnought will ever catch up to a witchblade warlock on jetbike

>>53057995
Confirmed for actually not knowing anything about Marine lore.

>>53057978
it's cheese because all of those models bar jetbikes, basic infantry and armour can bring d weapons.

>>53058001
The only thing I categorically don't like about eldar are the pointy ears desu. Wraithbone and Eldar smithing in general is so much more interesting than our assault rifles shoot grenades praise the enprahhhh

>>53055793
>Tomorrow, we’ll take a look at some new background and lore in thenew Warhammer 40,000, and then on Friday, we’ll take a look at Battle-forged armies

>>53058011
Warp hunter is armor with D but hey, superior psychically charged technology, what can I say?

>>53058028
>>tomorrow
>posted yesterday
That lore shit is being posted in 2-3 hours like every preview was so far.

>>53057805
When you were undergoing psycho-indoctrination
I studied The Path of the Warrior
When you were venerating the corpse god
I mastered The careful balanced art of attack and defense
While you wasted your days chasing fleeting glory
I cultivated inner strength
And now that the world is on fire and the legions of chaos are at the gate you have the audacity to come to me for help?

>>53058008
Good point I should be rolling for Insanity.
>>53058007
>Implying I'm not going to split you with the ranged weapons not the melee. Don't need to catch you in anything other than my targeting reticle.

>>53057942
>Playing D-99
>Elysians
Pick one m8.

>>53058053
> 4+ invuln save
We got magic robes boyo

>>53055763
You feel it too don't you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0xUl_VRCmM

>>53058001
>orks are orcs in space
>tau are gundam in space
>eldar are evangelion+elves in space
>crons are undead /zombies in space
>chaos are saturday morning breakfast cartoon villains/bbeg in space
>space marines are big dumb assault rifles shoots grenades for the emprahhh stroke my beckbeard (see post>>53057990)
>Imperial guard are winston churchill's battle plans in space or GI Joe in space
>sisters aren't a real army in space
>Tyranids are bugs in space
>Militarum Tempestus are a mistake in space
so 40k is just a bunch of unoriginal tropes in space?

>>53058054
Protip: bolters are grenade assault rifles whatever that even means praise the enprahhh

>>53058074
Well 40k is copy pasted shit from the 80

Beside the fungus Orks and the Wraith bone I can't recall anything original.

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>>53057995
>>53058001
>>53058052

Everyone knows Marine and Eldar secretly love and admire each other.

>>53058093
>Aeldari players on cuck watch

>>53058065
>S7 vs T3
Good you'll make this fun for me. You have a 50% chance of not getting ripped in half, and I have a 90% chance to hit your scrawny space elf ass. and a 80% chance to vaporize it, I just have to keep shooting you.

>>53058092
Do you even know what buzzwords ARE? Describing the mechanism of a boring gun aren't buzzwords praise the emprahhh

>>53058089
Forgot the Mi-go exist.

Maybe just the Wraith bone?

>>53056138
>Tau
Because I love their "work together, every life is precious" thing and kindasorta-hidden 1984 vibe. Also I like sneaky tactics and it allows me to field tons of stealthsuits.
>Thousand Sons
Because Space Egyptian/Persian Wizards is fucking rad and I get to satisfy my Ancient Egypt fetish. Also tragic backstory and baller hats.
>Necrons
SUPER HIGH TECH Space Egyptians, also with cool hats but with an old man "get off my lawn you fucking upstarts!!" vibe
>World Eaters/Iron Warriors
I like Khorne and Perturabo but not enough to build a full army around them, plus I had spare models.

>>53058058
technically d-99 are elysians but I get your point
They both use the same models with slightly different rules and look the same.
Also I run both since 130 point vendettas with deep strike are one of the most value flyers in the game point-to-firepower, especially when you run in the flyer wing where you get tank+monster hunters are you have 9 twin-linked lascannons raping everything up to and including knights/MCs and wraithknights.
>I don't have to pick one when I can pick both
words to live by

>>53057935
Reality is always is shittier than fantasy, hence why 2D > 3D. You just have seen the man behind the curtain or in your case the grunt fucking up the simplest of tasks and making your NCO question humanities existence.

>>53058110
See this is the fartartes I like to see, puts up a fight instead of crying cheese

>>53058074
>space marines are crusaders/romans/vampires/werewovles/gays in space
>chaos daemons are demons in space
>chaos space marines are super zombies/wizards/glam rockers/gladiators/evil crusaders in space
ftfy

>>53058093
>>53058129
Well Duh! I'm Chaos. We don't cry cheese we Cry "HAVOCKS SHOOT THAT SHIT!" And let loose the Hounds of Khorne.

>>53056138
Tyranids, because ancient intergalactic space monsters are cool. And GSC cults are very Order of Dagon.

Plus I love the hordes of little bugs.

>>53058131
Rocket launcher assault rifles wow much neckbeard praise the enprahhh

> If it looks like an assault rifle and it's used like an assault rifle, it's a fucking assault rifle regardless of what it shoots out

USAfags woke up early. God damn it

Bolters are effectively gyrojets

>>53058149
Shuriken catapults are literally the most weaboo guns imaginable, so how about not throwing stones in glass houses?

>>53058156
>USAfags
You mean AUSfags haven't gone to sleep yet, I mean we definitely attribute to a decent percentage of the quality shitposting on this board
>>53058164
You are correct, bolters are gyrojets
>>53058170
and wraithknights are the most weaboo models, tau may be weaboo mech lovers but eldar have the most weaboo units individually while maintaining a rather edgy aesthetic

>>53058161
> implying SMGs that shoots rockets isn't double the neckbeard

For the emprahhh

>>53057504
+1 per ten guys does not compensate for +1 loss for every single casualty you take above the threshold unless you are expecting 10% casualties or less per turn. Being able to substitute number of guys in the unit for your leadership would be fair and hopefully that's what orks will get.

But given they didn't even mention the +1 for ten guys in the morale preview, I'm not optimistic.

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>>53057380
Even though my KDK will most likely be squatted. From the ashes Codex: World Eaters will rise.

>>53058124
Luckily my group of players have more or less stayed in 4th edition with regards to power levels of armies, so stock Elysians and no formations are actually good, especially since I never take any AA.

>>53056138
Space Wolves
>I really like melee armies, I find """chaotic good""" characters really enjoyable in fictions, I don't really have a problem with all the pelts and stuff and super-soldiers riding giant wolf is the epitome of cool for me

Harlequins
>I really enjoy the idea of the "secret order" of the dying race that sacrifice their personal history and life in the pursuit of a way to save their race, to the point that both Eldar and Dark Eldar would work with them. And this secret order is wholly composed of murder clowns. I'd just like them to have more units and become an actual army

>>53058190
there's a higher chance of
>Codex: Sisters of Battle with plastic sisters

>>53058183
Guns that shoot shurikens are neckbeard to the nth power where n is a number rapidly approaching infinity.

>>53058199
GS books where 1/3 Chaos shit and they got nothing.

So this wild claim can be true taking that into account

Why didn't anyone say anything about this?
https://17890-presscdn-0-51-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/40k7_Marbo_Datasheet-1.pdf

>>53058170
Good thing they don't actually fire shurikens and they're not as ubiquitous like the emprahhh's grenade assault rifles. Eldar has a wide range of technologically creative weaponry and you're crying about the shuriken that pretty much only the conscripts use?

Now Sly Marbo has rules for 40k too
And they use a Chuck Norris fact to publicize it on facebook

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/04/sly-marbo-rules-for-warhammer-40000/

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We are playing with little plastic dolls can, we are all colossal fedora tipping neckbeard weeboo faggots

>>53058199
yfw they do it because they said literally all factions will have 8th rules on release and they are gradually phasing out metal and fineshit anyway

>>53058140
>>53058129
>>53058111
>>53058092

I can't tell if these guys are actually autistic, or just twelve years old.

>>53058214
> personal bolt weapons can easily fire in bursts of three to four rounds in rapid succession

Sounds an awful lot like an assault rifle my emprahhh

>>53058223
Shadow War, it is for SW:A

Last time I check 7th does not have long and short range and 8th does not have initiative

>>53058199
Lets not get out of hand with these speculations.

>>53058223
https://youtu.be/S4goJID2X9U

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>>53058194
that's fair enough and lucky for you, my local meta is waac faggotry through the roof for most people. There's a noob ork and csm player who are shit and get rolled while the eldar player claims that a wraithknight, 15 scatbikes and wraithlords with d flamers in a transport at 1000 points is fair. That leads me to having to use 130 vendettas, executioner squads with plasma and more flyers for the purpose of flyer cheesing my way through most tourneys since no list tailoring means little to no anti air
>>53058218
>creative weaponry
seems that a lot of these "creative" weapons are d strength
>>53058223
>>53058217
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Is sly marbo getting a new model as well? This is a glorious day to be alive, except for the chuck norris fact. Either way, this is absolutely delicious and I cannot wait to pick up sly marbo now.

I need to fucking bully Orks and Nids right now

>>53058241
Try to actually open the link
Yesterday there were his rules for SW:A

Now they are for the actual 40k game

>>53057760
>. Hell even Chaos marines need the Imperium for resources and other stuff.

Nah. Any Chaos faction that controls one (1) daemon prince on one (1) or more daemon worlds has all the resources and time to do anything it wants.

>>53058218
They're literally called shurikens you mongoloid.
Besides are you saying that Dire Avengers and Striking Scorpions are conscripts?
Or that marines don't use grav guns, plasma guns, melta guns, flamer, volkite weapons, autocannons, Lascannon and missile launchers?

>>53058255
> I have no counter argument so I must call you name a instead

Truly you are doing emprahhh's work

>>53058223

>No demo charge

>>53058258
I can understand the need to adapt to such conditions, god speed soldier.

>>53058264
Why the fuck do they do this? Why not release both things at the same time.

Fucking twats. Are they intentionally trying to confuse people or what?