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Italian Waterloo Edition

Previous thread: >>52958267

Get in here, post games, miniatures, questions, whatever you like.

List of mini providers:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uGaaOSvSTqpwPGAvLPY3B5M2WYppDhzXdjwMpqRxo9M/edit

List of Historical Tactical, Strategic, and Military Drill treatises:
http://pastebin.com/BfMeGd6R

ZunTsu Gameboxes:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/yaokao3h1o4og/ZunTsu_GameBoxes

/hwg/ Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/tghwg/

Games, Ospreys & References folders:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/lu95l5mgg06d5/Ancient
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/81ck8x600cas4/Medieval
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/w6m41ma3co51e/Horse_and_Musket
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/vh1uqv8gipzo1/Napoleonic
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/bbpscr0dam7iy/ACW
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/bvdtt01gh105d/Victorian
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/b35x147vmc6sg/World_War_One
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/z8a13ampzzs88/World_War_Two
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/z8i8t83bysdwz/Vietnam_War
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/7n3mcn9hlgl1t/Modern

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/6jrcg496e7vnb/Avalon%20Hill
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/pq6ckzqo3g6e6/Field_Of_Glory
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/r2mff8tnl8bjy/GDW
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/whmbo8ii2evqh//SPI
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/ws6yi58d2oacc/Strategy_%26_Tactics_Magazine
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/lx05hfgbic6b8/Naval_Wargaming
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/s1am77aldi1as/Wargames
https://mega.nz/#F!ZAoVjbQB!iGfDqfBDpgr0GC-NHg7KFQ
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>Advanced Squad Leader
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/d9x0dbxrpjg48/Advanced_Squad_Leader
>Battleground WWII
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/cb83cg7ays4l1/Battleground_WWII
>Battlegroup
https://mega.nz/#F!SolyxarJ!GUg6zWBStfznr6BvYedghQ
>Black Powder
http://www.mediafire.com/download/o5x6blwoczojmfr/Black+Powder.pdf
>Bolt Action
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/n7jmdnlv1n0ju/Bolt_Action
>By Fire And Sword
https://mega.co.nz/#!jxgCWTYD!FCp52DAqIUc-EM-TsRsWv7fB92nJ3kkzKsNcD_urI5Q
>Fleet Series
https://mega.nz/#F!i1N3xZxL!C6fQ3Z8o2U0gtk5kdXuVcQ
>Hail Caesar
https://mega.nz/#F!XsVD0KgT!twB1NWiFE3aKXK_O1EZ4pA
>Impetus
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/28i9gevqws518/Impetus
>Modelling & painting guides
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/7b5027l7oaz05/Modelling_%26_Painting_Guides
>Next War (GMT)
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/eupungrg93xgb/Next_War
>Phoenix Command RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!b5tgXRwa!mzelRNrKPjiT8gP7VrS-Jw
>Saga
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/alj31go19tmpm/SAGA
>Twilight 2000/2013 RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!C9sQhbwb!NVnD4jvUn5inOrPJIAkBhA
>Wargaming Compendium
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cghxf3475qy46aq/Wargaming+Compendium.pdf
>Warhammer Ancient battles 2.0
http://www.mediafire.com/download/uttov32riixm9b0/Warhammer+Ancient+Battles+2E.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ta7aj1erh7sap1t/Warhammer+Ancient+Battles+-+Armies+of+Antiquity+v2.pdf
>Warhammer Historical
https://mega.nz/#F!LxkElYYY!FJB5miNmlWZKMj2VfSYdxg
>Warmaster Ancients
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cifld8bl3uy2i5g/Warmaster+Ancients.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/3emyvka11bnna1b/Warmaster+Ancient+Armies.pdf

Desired scans :
Rank and File supplements
Harpoon 3 & 4 supplements
Force on Force supplements
Hind Commander
At Close Quarters
War and Conquest
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3rd of May in military history:

1382 – Battle of Beverhoutsveldn near Bruges - Ghent town militia defeats the Bruges town militia.
1808 – Finnish War: Sweden loses the fortress of Sveaborg to Russia.
1808 – Peninsular War: The Madrid rebels who rose up on May 2 are executed near Príncipe Pío hill.
1815 – Neapolitan War: Joachim Murat, King of Naples is defeated by the Austrians at the Battle of Tolentino, the decisive engagement of the war.
1849 – The May Uprising in Dresden begins – the last of the German revolutions of 1848–49.
1855 – American adventurer William Walker departs from San Francisco with about 60 men to conquer Nicaragua.
1915 – The poem "In Flanders Fields" is written by Lieutenant Colonel John McCrae.
1942 – World War II: Japanese naval troops invade Tulagi Island in the Solomon Islands during the first part of Operation Mo that results in the Battle of the Coral Sea between Japanese forces and forces from the United States and Australia.
1951 – The United States Senate Committee on Armed Services and United States Senate Committee on Foreign Relations begin their closed door hearings into the dismissal of General Douglas MacArthur by U.S. President Harry Truman.
2002 – A military MiG-21 aircraft crashes into the Bank of Rajasthan in India, killing eight.
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It is 202 years since the Battle of Tolentino, fought near Tolentino, Kingdom of Naples in what is now Marche, Italy. This was the decisive battle of the Neapolitan War, fought by the Napoleonic King of Naples Joachim Murat to keep the throne after the Congress of Vienna. The battle itself shares many parallels with the Battle of Waterloo. Both occurred during the Hundred Days following Napoleon's return from exile and resulted in a decisive victory for the Seventh Coalition leading to the restoration of a Bourbon king.

In 1808, Marshal Joachim Murat was appointed to the throne of Naples by Napoleon Bonaparte. Ruling from afar as he participated in Napoleon's campaigns, Murat deserted the emperor after the Battle of Leipzig in October 1813. Desperate to save his throne, Murat entered into negotiations with the Austrians and concluded a treaty with them in January 1814. Despite Napoleon's defeat and the treaty with the Austrians, Murat's position became increasingly precarious after the Congress of Vienna convened. This was largely due to increasing support to return the former King Ferdinand IV. With this in mind, Murat elected to support Napoleon upon his return to France in early 1815.

Moving quickly, he raised the Kingdom of Naples' army and declared war on Austria on March 15. Advancing north, he won a series of victories over the Austrians and laid siege to Ferrara. On April 8-9, Murat was beaten at Occhiobello and forced to fall back. Retreating, he ended the siege of Ferrara and reconcentrated his forces at Ancona. Believing the situation to be in hand, the Austrian commander in Italy, Baron Frimont, sent two corps south to finish off Murat.

Led by Generals Frederick Bianchi and Adam Albert von Neipperg the Austrian corps marched towards Ancona, with the former moving through Foligno with the goal of getting in Murat's rear. Sensing the danger, Murat sought to defeat Bianchi and Neipperg separately before they could unify their forces.
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Sending a blocking force under General Michele Carascosa to stall Neipperg, Murat took the main body of his army to engage Bianchi near Tolentino. His plan was thwarted on April 29 when a unit of Hungarian hussars captured the town. Recognizing what Murat was trying to accomplish, Bianchi began to delay the battle.

Establishing a strong defensive line anchored on the Tower of San Catervo, Rancia Castle, the Church of Maestà, and Saint Joseph, Bianchi awaited Murat's attack. With time running out, Murat was forced to make to first move on May 2. His force numbered 25,588 men, 4,790 horses and 58 guns; the Austrians had 11,938 men, 1,452 horses and 28 guns.

Opening fire on Bianchi's position with artillery, Murat was achieved a minor element of surprise. Attacking near Sforzacosta, his men briefly captured Bianchi necessitating his rescue by Austrian hussars. Concentrating his army near Pollenza, Murat repeatedly attacked the Austrian positions near Rancia Castle.

The fighting raged throughout the day and did not die out until after midnight. Though his men failed to take and hold the castle, Murat's troops had gotten the better of the day's fight. As the sun rose on May 3, a heavy fog delayed action until around 7:00 AM. Pressing forward, the Neapolitans finally captured the castle and the Cantagallo hills, as well as forced the Austrians back into the Chienti Valley. Seeking to exploit this momentum, Murat pushed forward two divisions on his right flank. Anticipating a counterattack by the Austrian cavalry, these divisions advanced in square formation.

But as they neared the enemy lines, no cavalry emerged and the Austrian infantry unleashed a devastating barrage of musket fire on the Neapolitans, tearing through the massed squares. Beaten, the two divisions began falling back. This setback was made worse by the failure of a supporting attack on the left.
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With the battle still undecided, Murat was informed that Carascosa had been defeated at Scapezzano and that Neipperg's corps was approaching. This was compounded by rumors that a Sicilian army was landing in southern Italy. Assessing the situation, Murat began breaking off the action and withdrawing south towards Naples.

In the fighting at Tolentino, Murat lost 1,120 killed, 600 wounded, and 2,400 captured. Worse, the battle effectively ended the Neapolitan army's existence as a cohesive fighting unit. Falling back in disarray, they were unable to stop of the Austrian advance through Italy. With the end in sight, Murat fled to Corsica. Austrian troops entered Naples on May 23 and Ferdinand was restored to the throne. Murat was later executed by the king after attempting an insurrection in Calabria with the goal of retaking the kingdom. The victory at Tolentino cost Bianchi around 700 killed and 100 wounded.

This is an obscure but significant battle that offers something different for the Napoleonic gamer - the "Italian Waterloo". The Neapolitan army is one of the most gorgeous of the period, even if its performance was usually poor.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/plwjp9u7zf0plp7/Osprey+-+ELI+196+-+Napoleonic+Light+Cavalry+Tactics.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ketoedxjj9zj289/Osprey+-+MAA+088+-+Napoleon's+Italian+and+Neapolitan+Troops.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/wwmyirmtgrk85k0/Osprey+-+MAA+176+-+Austrian+Army+of+the+Napoleonic+Wars+%281%29+Infantry.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/9gi1y3en11mq3w1/Osprey+-+MAA+181+-+Austrian+Army+of+the+Napoleonic+Wars+%282%29+Cavalry.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/kiacpbzz0i33h3i/Osprey+-+MAA+223+-+Austrian+Specialist+Troops+of+the+Napoleonic+Wars.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/jt8c77rddr24c7t/Osprey+-+MAA+299+-+Austrian+Auxiliary+Troops+1792-1816.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/8kbbvdb63tddbpz/Osprey+-+WAR+024+-+Austrian+Grenadiers+and+Infantry+1788-1816.pdf
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>>53031689
You're a hero, exactly what I wanted. Thanks
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>>53036331
>The Neapolitan army is one of the most gorgeous of the period, even if its performance was usually poor.
Care to post any pictures?
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The blue/pink combo is common in Neapolitan uniforms - the Guards certainly - and gives them a particularly striking highlight.
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Hind & Seek basing convention (for 1/300 scale):

1.5cm X 3cm for infantry squads

1.5cm X 1.5cm for heavy weapon teams

This seems to work pretty well, as a squad is about the same size as a BMP, so can comfortably fit beside it (or behind it)
Hopefully doesn't look too cramped...
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>>53038885

funky fresh! Perry miniatures?
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Yeah
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>>53038922
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>>53038963
I wonder how history would have changed if Burgundy had survived, having a decent sized country wedged between Germany and France would've been interesting.
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Few Soviets coming together for H&S. 1 more Hind to build and a lot of infantry. Then I'll have a crack at painting these suckers.

The smaller vehicle in the foreground on the right is a BMD - its small because it has to be air dropped.
You can see a BMD getting air dropped by parachute in this video - quite a sight! not sure if this was SOP in Afghanistan though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwizQfIiBuQ
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ugh help me I'm getting interested in travel battle

https://wargamingmiscellany.blogspot.co.nz/2017/05/travel-battle-campaign-maps-couple-of.html

It's more likely to prod me into building some small geomorphic boards with magnetised bases of risk figures though.

Have the rules been released, or are they still boxed set only?
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Does anyone have a pdf/scan of the rulebook and cards for Modern Spearhead? I've looked
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>>53038922

Nice minis! As a guy new to historical can I ask what period??
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>>53040884
Those are (I think) from Perry Miniatures' Agincourt line, so circa 1415.
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>>53040884
These are the 1450-1500 boxes of Perry Miniatures, they aren't mine btw, I have a lot of them but I don't paint as good as this guy.

Perry is cheap as fuck: 20 pound for a box of +-40 infantry and 12 cav. They are good quality and very fun to paint, can recommend.
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>>53040974
>+-40 infantry and 12 cav
Should be -+40 inf OR 12 cav
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>>53038885
>>53038922
Are there any good sources for middle ages European small unit tactics? I imagine there must have been smaller organization of units than the company, like the the conroi(s).
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I know painting advice should go in WIP but anything not warhammer is generally ignored

I started painting a 28mm figure of Kenshin Uesugi. I am not totally sold on the advised colour scheme though.

The head dress is meant to be a worn, off white cloth. The armour is grey and the clothes are a darker grey with a dark red crimson kind of colour on tassles and other trimmings.

Would it be overbearing if i kept the armour grey, but did the clothing in a deep red? I was thinging i could paint the trimmings gold.

i know its not historically accurate... plz dont hate me.
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>>53041149
progress so far
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>>53041138
The lance is a pretty common small infantry unit (a knight, a light cavalryman and an assortment of footsoldiers)
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>>53041167
Advised colour scheme is on the box.
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>>53041168
Do you know of any good sources for reading about the tactical use of a lance? I've trained HEMA but it's mostly in the context of dueling because lol Meyer, but I'm interested in small unit combat.
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>>53041168
Wasn't that more organisational, not a combat organisation? A knight would have to show up with a lance, but they wouldn't fight as a unit - they'd be split up and put into more homogeneous groups.

They might get into scuffles on the way to the army, of course.
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These might be of some use
http://www.mediafire.com/file/wdxmcsw2zui2jhq/Osprey+-+WAR+115+-+Condottiere+1300-1500.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/file/t387cjc62i1e2f9/Osprey+-+ELI+185+-+European+Medieval+Tactics+%281%29.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/file/0827v9nhi65ynn9/Osprey+-+ELI+189+-+European+Medieval+Tactics+%282%29.pdf
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>>53041213
Well I should have told you that lances were broken apart mostly, the (mounted) footmen would be organised with other footmen in foot companies and the knight would join the rest of the cav.

I hardly know of any tactics books about the late-medieval period so I can't help you further with that but maybe somebody else will.
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>>53041266
>>53041267
Thanks.
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>>53038502
If your bases are going to be that small I would recommend getting thinner, plastic bases to try and minimize it.
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>>53041190

I would think deep red would not look bad, but it might make the tassels stand out less
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Someone asked about Modern Spearhead, but anyone got Great War Spearhead 2? I know it's got an official PDF version available, unlike Modern, but... I'm broke. as usual
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>>53036278
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Can you add Modern Spearhead to the list?
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>>53041213
Here, have some context for your Meyer.

Also fence like Pseudo-Doebringer would have you, so you can look in the mirror and not hate yourself.
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>>53041267
I'm not really sure there are any. There's very little information to draw upon. Most of what we've got is supposition and extrapolation. It's not like the 1500/1600s when books on how to drill troops to move and fight appeared.
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dumping some pics from a Bolt Action game last sunday.
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>>53044706
this was a bloodbath
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>>53044706
hell yeah Panzerfaust
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>>53044772
>>53044820
Looks good who won and what model 88 is that?
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>>53036531
Murat became notorious as he saw the Neapolitan army as a toy rather than a real army
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>>53044927
thanks.
It was a draw. My Veteran Grenadier squad was inside a Hanomag with one meagre pin and failed to dismount in the last round of the game to take the last objective. it was hilarious.

the 88 is laser cut MDF provided by a cool guy on the warlord games forums. I only use them (got 2) as terrain or objective pieces.
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>>53045319
Nice. That's when "bolt action" happens.

I couldn't tell it was mdf right off the bat. Looks good. Probably a cheap way to get into it.

I bought a division German gun from trenchworx but am having a tough time finding crew that is sold separately.
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>>53044706
>>53044729
>>53044749
>>53044772
>>53044820

Looks great, always rare when someone has a completely painted and finished army+opponent+surface+terrain, but it's so worth it when you do.
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>>53046378
Yah I agree. One of the reasons I like going to events because you have a better chance of all these things being true.
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>>53042112
This. A big sheet of .080 or 0.060 plasticard off amazon, enough for your whole project will be like $12. Just score and snap, it will look much nicer.
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>>53043246
Will do anon
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>>53045508
not sure how historically accurate you want to be
PAK-40 crew
http://www.artizandesigns.com/prod.php?prod=1721

88mm crew
https://www.perry-miniatures.com/product_info.php?cPath=23_74_77&products_id=3099&osCsid=voue4jaakvsidk68q7j7dvlcb3

if you need accurate crew for field artillery you are better off buying a gun with crew
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>>53050412
I agree normally but no one else as far as I know makes this gun.

https://trenchworx.com/product/15cm-sfh18-howitzer/

Thanks for the link. Will check. I know perry is usually on the 25mm side but i think this gun would be generally far away from the action.
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What is the best game for WWI?
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>>53050856
Square Bashing

Because it's the only one I can remember off the top of my head that is actually on a large scale.
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>>53050856
There are some good ones around, but without a specific scale in mind I don't really know what to recommend. Here's what we've actually got in our folders:

TFL's Through The Mud And The Blood is a really well developed large skirmish game that has a strong RPG element. The way you develop your character's life before, during and (God willing) after the war is huge fun. It now covers several fronts and forces.

Core rules
http://www.mediafire.com/download/wckw2uhhx4uq4xi/Mud+%26+Blood.pdf
Western Front 1916-18 supplement
http://www.mediafire.com/download/v0pvhuiscfmcv45/Mud+%26+Blood+-+Stout+Hearts+%26+Iron+Troopers.pdf
Eastern Front supplement
http://www.mediafire.com/download/90d9iqma5dipfac/Mud+%26+Blood+-+From+Empire+To+Revolution.pdf
Africa/Middle East supplement
http://www.mediafire.com/download/wefcgbcge31scgu/If+The+Lord+Spares+Us+%28TFL%29.pdf
Post-war (specifically Freikorps, Irish Civil War and VBCW) supplement
http://www.mediafire.com/download/831n3lc84p65tkw/Mud+%26+Blood+-+Triumphant+Standards.pdf

Also all WW1 gamers should read their Play The Game supplement, a collection of articles relevant to fighting the period.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/6h72ju77u4sx6t2/Play+The+Game+%28TFL%29.pdf

The next step up would be Chris Peers' Contemptible Little Armies, which tends towards battalion-sized actions. It is more abstract than Mud & Blood but also covers more aspects like detailed artillery rules. This pdf also has the two sets of army lists covering Europe, Africa and the Middle East.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/frv8144doeoa6sb/Contemptible+Little+Armies+3E.pdf
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>>53050856
>>53052607
Then there's Over The Top, an old Chadwick/GDW title that is basically a WW1 mod of his classic Command Decision rules. You can field up to a Corps in this! The game's main focus is on command and control, with orders and maneuver being a detailed process. He notes the excessive gaming focus on "Flanders 1917" situations and instead offers obscure scenarios like the Senussi Revolt and the Siege Of Tsingtao.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/6y6ombjl4azsm96/Over+The+Top.pdf

Honorable mentions: Warhammer Historical's Great War wargame, about which I know absolutely nothing.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/0c1g36cc1rxhrcu/Warhammer+Historical+-+The+Great+War.pdf

This ancient WRG set which may have some novelty value.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ta4474bv7ac664o/World+War+I+Wargames+Rules.pdf
Landships! in the OP is a very attractive and detailed hex&counter wargame covering tanks on the Western Front, incorporating aircraft and gas and all sorts of other elements.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/wnd7jpcdw1qe36d/Landships%21.pdf

On a similar note, there are several Strategy & Tactics magazines in the WW1/Games folder covering several aspects of the war.

Naturally there's also the preponderance of WW1 dogfighting games, of which we have two: the venerable Dawn Patrol and the more recent Aces at Dawn
http://www.mediafire.com/download/qcx2ph2d25d9929/Aces+at+Dawn.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/p9d2l1oulldmia0/Dawn+Patrol.rar
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>>53040972
>>53040974

Any idea what games would be really good for this time period?
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>>53052725
Large scale, late medieval? You should look at Impetus or DBM.
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Hey guys me and a buddy are looking into getting into a world war 3 ruleset. Team Yankee is out because the devs are retarded so I'm looking for an alternative that can still use the nice battlefront minis.
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Any of you grognards play ASL? A friend of mine was clearing out some of his old gaming stuff and I have Starter Kit #1 here. I'm watching a battle on YouTube, seems alright, but I'm sorta worried about needing to buy an ass-ton of modules to really enjoy it.
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>>53054444
We have a couple of experts hanging around, one of them might pop in shortly
Check out the ASL folder in our OP, or the module on Vassal, it might save you a few purchases

>>53053710
Does anyone know if FFoT or CWC work in 15mm?
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What's a good place to buy bases in the US? I'm having trouble locating any.
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>>53054611
>Does anyone know if FFoT or CWC work in 15mm?
Yes, both, and using TY/FoW basing if you like.

>>53055087
What kind? The big name laser-cut manufacturer in the UK is litko aero, IIRC.
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>>53055374
Bases specifically for Field of Glory
abc(depth) x 40mm(width)

As for material, I'd prefer plastic as I've heard that hardboard soaks paint, but I'll settle for whatever I can get.
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>>53053710
Force on Force with Cold War Gone Hot
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>>53053062
>>53052725
I´m going for Impetus as well.
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I'm having this beautiful dream of starting up a 28mm Hail Caesar army based on the Rome: Total War game. Either Scipio blue or Brutii green.
What do you think?
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>>53057036
Victrix just released their new plastic legionaries so now's as good a time as any.
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>>53042112
>>53048114
ah, solid suggestion, cheers
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>>53054444
>Any of you grognards play ASL?
well now that you mention it...

ASL is NOT a cheap hobby to get into-if you want to jump in feet first. I myself have a club I play with regularly and I havnt brought my kit in months because everyone else has far more stuff than i do

SK1 is a great starting point. some pretty good scenarions in it and gives you a chance to see if you like the game.

as far as getting into it?
at the minimum youll need the 2nd edition rulebook-the big 3 ring binder.($80 new) however they just came out with a pocket version of the rules for about $40. a first edition rulebook will cost less and can work but 2nd edition really expands and clarifies some things.

from there you can download VASL and just play with that. VASL does a pretty good job of having all the maps and countersets available-even alot of the 3rd party stuff thats been done for ASL

if you want to get your own kit then at the minimum youll need the module Beyond Valor-it contains the full german and russian OOBs and all the admin counters. Yanks has the full US army OOB. from there it gets messy and you can go in whatever direction tickles your fancy

but yeah...its not cheap if you want to buy everything
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>>53053710
Well going by our three recommendations you have
>Fistful of Tows
http://www.mediafire.com/file/9xxzdx9568ga3gj/A+Fistful+of+TOWs+3+v01-20.pdf
>Cold War Commander
https://mega.nz/#!jwcXSY6Y!_jMaHQU9JEnPvrNp54ZOtF5SdQnp8aNb9o4nmUOMCFk
>FoF: Cold War Gone Hot
http://www.mediafire.com/file/e1s6t3q1dcrblpg/Force+on+Force.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/file/w6jgv61j8e13jlr/FoF+-+Cold+War+Gone+Hot.pdf
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Has anyone done WW2 imagi-nations? I've been considering making up a pair of hodgepodge axis and allied minor nations located somewhere handwavey, with a mix of modern, lend-lease, looted and obsolete equipment.

The standard pair I've used in earlier periods is a vaguely german force against a vaguely french force - maybe a state somewhere on the border between france and spain and the german one somewhere down by italy? andorra to genoa, maybe. But I'm not actually going to use world maps.

That would make them both coastal, and the french one wouldn't stay unconquered long, but for early and late war stuff it could be interesting.

Any suggestions for ahistorical organisations and interesting tanks/tankettes/bicycle infantry?
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>>53057469
this is also not entirely an excuse to have french early war helmets, and interwar leftovers.

I really can't justify brigade's 1914 belgian machine gun carts though. they're pulled by dogs! I mean. maybe. they do ammo carts too. nazis used horses, nothing wrong with dogs in ww2. lots of nations still had ww1 machineguns in inventory, especially minor ones.
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>>53057513
>I really can't justify brigade's 1914 belgian machine gun carts though
tachankas
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>>53057513
>nothing wrong with dogs in ww2
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-tank_dog
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>>53057513
The British Vickers was a WW1 gun, the US forces used the M1919 Browning which was similar, the Soviet Maxim was from much older as well...even the Germans used lot of older equipment, mostly for units that wasn't expected to fight, or when there was nothing better, so I'd say go for it.
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>>53057520
I always forget about the 40s Hilux.
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>>53057469
we did italian-americans once in an ostfront campaign. It was hilarious - Carro armatos and stuarts fighting side by side. Not really much of an imagi-nation though, sorry.

Pretty much everyone had a version of the Vickers 6-ton at the start of WW2, likewise the 37mm and 40mm bofors. perhaps Vickers 6ton turned into a SPG to pack the 40mm bofors?
or 40mm bofors on trucks?
maybe some crazy WWI relics like the Gun Carrier Mk I?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_Carrier_Mark_I
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Not every small nation relies on cast-offs. Some invest heavily in their military, and would be all about the fancy high-tech stuff.

By which I mean a (small) fully mechanised force with 38L APCs, light tanks, and these adorable babby tank destroyers.
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Is there a specific thread for hex & chit board wargame scans?
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>>53057469
Obviously the Not-Germans would field early imported Italian and Japanese armour. For testing purposes, yes. Bring a few across and hand them off to a minor nation.

Any excuse to get Japanese armour on the western front is a good excuse.
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>>53057818
>specific thread for hex & chit board wargame scans?
You mean, a folder for hex & chit board wargame scans? Because we have a couple.
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Today I have started to slowly scan, page by page, a borrowed Classified: Special Operations Missions 1940-2010 supplement of Force on Force on a borrowed scanner.
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>>53058017
thank mr scantal
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>>53053710
FiveCore Brigade Commander and maybe FiveCore Company Commander. I've never played Company Commander or read the rules but Brigade Commander is great.
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>>53050599
How is the quality of that gun? I'm tempted to order it for quite some time.
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>>53058884
Extremely highly detailed and easy to build. I'll upload a picture of mine built before painting this afternoon.

I have a bunch if kits from the and they are all great. Some ija stuff and a little bit of Soviet and German.
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>>53058975
Damn.. now i have to spend some money. Especially after the disappointment of Warlords metal 10,5 howitzer.

Looking forward to your pic.
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>>53057674

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecuadorian%E2%80%93Peruvian_War

>Peru had spent several years and large sums of money to prepare for war with Ecuador, and had the continent's most modern armed forces when war broke out in August 1941. Italian artillery and bombers, Czech tanks and artillery tractors, American fighter planes and French cannon all made for a war machine capable of overrunning Ecuador's comparatively primitive bayonet army.
http://www.avalanchepress.com/Equator_pieces.php
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>>53056738
those are beautifull miniatures! impressive work
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>>53059343
Not mine, sorry if I made it look like that
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I might be blind but I can't see a really obvious difference between Redcoats of the Jacobite Rebellion and the American Rebellion, even to there was 30 years between them - can I get away using Jacobite Rebellion Redcoats and Highlanders for the American war of independence? In 1:72 the RedBox kits are much easier to source than any other redcoats for the period,
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>>53057818
hex and chit games are discussed here-just not as often as minis are. and as >>53057903
said. we do have a few folders up in OP that has dozens and dozens and dozens of hex and counter games
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>>53057036
>What do you think?
It wont look as good as painting them "more" historically beige and red.
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>>53060088
The redcoats of the mid 18th century are very different to the AWI.

Cuff length, coat length, and headwear are all obviously different (the earlier redcoat has longer cuffs, a longer coat, and a tricorne instead of a bicorne) and will be clear to anyone with period knowledge. There are other differences, but if those three don't bother you none of them will.

tl;dr they are different but most people don't know so if it doesn't bother you, use them. Although know I don't support your actions if you do
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>>53060450
>>53061176
anybody?
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>>53057317
Thanks for the heads up. VASL seems like an interesting idea as well, if I google around for VASL communities should I find some place reliably friendly to noobs and not full of shitbags?
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>>53061485
is that ww2 or nam in the pic?
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>>53060088
>I might be blind but I can't see a really obvious difference between Redcoats of the Jacobite Rebellion and the American Rebellion,

Trust us, you ARE blind.

That being said, go ahead and use them. On the game-to-art spectrum of our hobby, I lean more towards the game than the art. I've played rules sets with inked pieces of cardboard standing in for the proper minis.

A mini can be a breathtaking piece of art, but the "lack" of the "proper" ones is not going to stop me from playing a game.
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>>53062489
Ww2
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Working on doing black skin on these elhiem french, think it turned out ok at best. AT4 guy turned out better than FAMAS guy. I like how the sunglasses turned out, while the eyes look like shit. Not really sure about getting the skin to pop more.

Fuck my shit up /hwg/
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>>53064015
To me, the skin tone looks good. The camo however should perhaps be a bit more carefully done. Pure black is very stark, I'd recommend either using dark grey, or using the black first so that the other colours can soften the edges a little bit. Honestly the camo looks rushed. Also the eyes don't look good, because eyes are hard as fuck.

Also put the model down, it is MUCH easier to get a non shaky photo if you aren't trying to hold it AND take a photo.
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>>53064070
Exactly what I was looking for. I agree with the camo being shit, I'm going to redo it after I do the white boys skin in this batch.

Do you have any suggestions for painting eyes at 20mm? I've tried going with the destroyer minis method until step 4, (http://www.destroyerminis.com/paintingeyes/), but obviously doesn't work out that well at this scale/my skill level.
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>>53058017
You are my new hero
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>>53064015
Protip: don't paint eyes.

Otherwise, it's pretty great!
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>>53061485
hit up facebook for both the ASL community and the VASSAL community. the ASL community on FB should be able to point you in the direction if there is a club in your area. Thats how I found my current group. we have about 8-12 players that show up each games day-sometimes more, sometimes less. and people of all varying skill levels. usually always 1 or 2 people in a club that act as 'mentors' to bring in new players and help teach them the game. the FB ASL community has over 3k members worldwide....so they are a great source for rules questions and general answers

youll find the ASL community is pretty good with new players. most ASL players are older like me and we tend to not be jerks like some of the younger crowds and playerbases ~cough~40kplayerbase~cough~

if you have any questions please feel free to drop them...I know of...2 or 3 other people here on /hwg/ that play ASL as well.

and yeah..hit up my ASL folder up in OP. lot of good ASL stuff up there....and yes im still trying to track down a decent pdf version of the 2nd edition rules. so all i have is the 1st edition with ALOT of the modules added in
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>>53065508
I really appreciate it. I've never been good at learning rules by reading them - I have to play the game and figure it out the inefficient way. I'll be digging around on YouTube for a good 'demo' game, if people are interested I'll post anything really useful.
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>>53056738

Best place to buy lasercut MDF bases in the US?
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>>53065892
Definitely interested over here. Please post.
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>>53064598
>Protip: don't paint eyes.

But I don't want my men to spread Youngblood's disease!
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>>53043709
Thanks.
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>>53065892
you're in luck. there are a TON of ASL videos out there.
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>>53067215
I'm about halfway through this video. It's not exactly riveting but it's a guy sorta walking you through SK1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUgtQ-ucDiw

Will continue to update with anything else useful I find.
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>>53051807
>>53052607
>>53052633
Thanks you so much for the recommendations!
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More ASL vids. This one isn't too bad either.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e_d46Q2dbc
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>>53066432
Litko has tons of options for shape and material but are kinda slow. They're based in Indiana.
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>>53058975
>>53059000
Here is one. I will post a few more. Not sure how much detail you can make out but it's extremely nice.
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>>53058975
>>53059000
Battery for reference on size. You can see it's a huge gun and it should be since it was a divisional asset.
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>>53058975
>>53059000
Last one top down
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>>53053710
Are your figures already based for Team Yankee?
Do you want a ruleset that operates at the same level of command as TY? (i.e. a ruleset where tank miniatures represent individual real tanks).
Are you more interested in infantry combat or tank combat or combined arms?
Do you like more chaotic command systems or prefer straightforward ones where your troops do what you want when you want it to a larger degree?
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>>53070613
>>53070560
>>53070535

Thanks for the pics Anon.
The gun looks really nice. Please upload pics when you have painted it.
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>>53060997

Yes. I can't seem to find them.
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>>53076015
>Yes. I can't seem to find them.
They are in the Avalon Hill, SPI, GDW, ASL, and Strategy & Tactics folders.
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I did it lads! I did it!
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Any chance for a pdf of the new A&A SAGA book?
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>>53065892

Noob question:

What is OP and where can I find it?
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>>53076094
It's the Original Post right at the top of the thread
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>>53075375
Will do. Nice thing is with their stuff you dont have to scrub since it's just the 3d printing material.
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Ok, except for their weapons these look like exactly GW Cadians proportionswise.

Fucking Warlord and their fucking gorilla hands.
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>>53077107
That love the oversized hands and heads.
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>>53077107

are these big as fuck like the plastic US airborne? (compared to the other kits at least)
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>>53076015
>>53076094

You know if you're that stupid maybe checkers is more your speed. Just saying.
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>>53067458
atop the fourth wall reference?
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My club is getting into modern Africa Wars, complete with cheesy names for fictional nations and dictators.

But they're doing it in 1/72.

Are there any good African militia figures that are available in 1/72? I've only seen SandSModels minis, which look like they were sculpted with Plasticine and then melted a bit.


Bonus fun activity: roll to generate your African army!
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>>53078088
Elhiem and under fire miniatures. Caesar also has at least one generic militia box that could work.
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>>53078180

Thanks for the suggestions
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>>53078549
Sprayed my Sherman with army painter army green.
What is the next step? I only have access to citadell paints, what should I use for layering and highlights?
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>>53079392
I would probably pick out the detail then tracks and finally wash it several times. Then determine if you want to weather or not. Those big flat surfaces are tough but not impossible.
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>>53070210

Thanks! Checking them out
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>>53079471
thanks bro
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Not sure if anyone still looking for ASL resources, but this series has been the most useful for me. Once I wrap my head around VASL I might post about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRYhFYjd6TQ
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>>53078180
Any cold war figs have potential though they might look a little too well equipped for militia

The Imex Norks or various VietCong probably would work for conscripts/guerillas though not guy in a t-shirt tier. The Vietnamese might need some head swaps
http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Review.aspx?id=810
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Rolled 14 (1d20)

>>53078088
Fuck it, rollan for army type
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Rolled 4, 1, 2, 3, 6, 6 = 22 (6d6)

>>53082281
> Mercenary cored army

Off to a good start, rollan for army name
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Rolled 6, 2, 4 = 12 (3d6)

>>53082304
> Territorial
> Earth
> Intervention

Fuckin' whatever, let's roll with it. Country name now.
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>>53082328
> Territorial Earth Intervention, a PMC from the popular democratic republic of Naire.
> Not to be confused with Zaire.

Fuckin' gold.
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Rolled 6, 6, 6, 5, 5 = 28 (5d6)

>>53082343
Oh shit, forgot the flag (rolling extra dice in case I need more than one colour)
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>>53082365
It's fucking hideous and I love it.
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>>53082412
N A I R E FOREVER
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>>53082533
ZAIRE GO HOME YOU ARE WORST -AIRE.

NAIRE STRONK.
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>>53078088
If you rolled 6,5,1 on the country name generator you would get a country called 'Nooo'
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>>53082558
I quite like 3 3 1 for bboo
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What is the best historical skirmish game? I am the guy who asked about WWI games earlier, and they seemed too large scale. 40k is my current money stealer and I don't want to spend a shit-ton on a new game.
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>>53082996
>What is the best historical skirmish game
I'm not even going to make suggestions until you confirm time scale. Do you want ww1?
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>>53082996
Why not Warhammer: The Great War with 1:72/20mm minis? Even with metals from Early War Miniatures, it wouldn't be too expensive, from plastics, even cheaper.

Anyway, it's really hard to decide since skirmish means a different thing to everyone, and periods cause some problems too - try to narrowi it down to period, and we can help a bit better. For ancients, not sure, don't know any, for medievals, Lords&Servants, for Horse&Musket, there are lot of good ones like Sharp Practice, Smooth&Rifled, and probably a bunch of others too, plus there's Muskets&Tomahawks entirely focused around the Americas in the second half of the 18th century and so on and so forth.

If you come from Warhammer, GW's historical games might be your best starting point. They practically cover everything sans modern, but their Napoleonic set has no scans in existence. I doubt that book even exists...
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>>53082996
I dunno if it's the 'best' per se but FiveCore does just about everything (especially if you include Chevauchee for pre-guns stuff).

And you only need like five dudes a side (hence the name).
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>>53083050 >>53083097
I don't care what scale it's in. I'm not too picky with the time period. I like WW1, WW2, Medieval, Napoleonic, and Roman/ancient stuff. By skirmish game I mean something that won't break the bank. Thank you guys so much! /hwg/ seems like the nicest general on this board.
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>>53083218
Fivecore as the other anon suggested might work, otherwise GW's Legend of...games if you like cowboys and/or pirates. Other than that, SAGA with plastic minis come to mind, and basically anyting with 1:72 plastics. Grabbing two boxes of WW2 infantry from PSC is like...10GBP? Enough for a few games of I Ain't Been Shot Mum or something. Possibly Crossfire too.
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>>53083139
>>53083337
FiveCore sounds interesting. Thank you guys for helping me. There's so many games and I would have no idea what to play if it weren't for you guys.
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>>53083378
depending on what you mean by breaking the bank I'd suggest bolt action. It shares a lot of rules with 40k so you'd feel right at home. Pick up två plastic boxes of each army and you're set for a lot of fun. You can also use them for 5core
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Currently painting these Soviet snow suit veterans but I'm stuck on two models. The one who's reaching over with something in his hands in the top left is carrying something. What is it? It looks like some kind of grenade.
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>>53083218
>By skirmish game I mean something that won't break the bank

Warhammer historicals games are kind of on the "small" side, by historical standards, 12-24 man infantry and 5-10 man cavalry units being the norm, as in WHFB. Probably you can get away with a smaller number of figures than modern 40k armies other than smaller spess muhreen forces (I dipped out in '10, so I'm not 100% up to date), and the miniatures will cost 20-50% the price of GW figs.

Warhammer historicals are not widely played, but if you plan to introduce people to historicals anyway and they are former GW types, may as well start with familiar territory.

Basically, Warhammer Ancient Battles (Biblical to Renaissance and everything between) replaces "fantastic" elements like spells, magic items, etc. with a modest amount of military realism rules (not that they are necessarily realistic in practice). IMO the 2nd E WAB rules are no more complicated than 5E 40k or 7E WHFB.

They also have "Army Books" organized more by era than one specific army, which have about as much background info as a codex or what have you and can help flesh out your knowledge on the era in a wargaming context. All of the above being in the OP's folders.

If you play around with WAB and decide it's too outdated or clunky or w/e, you can look into other rule sets that might require larger armies or have more detailed rules or just do a better job of doing what WAB tries to do in the pre- or early-Gunpowder eras (Hail Caesar, To The Strongest, War and Conquest, etc. etc.)

Saga for medieval, Musket & Tomahawk for 18th century, and Bolt Action (Warhammer 1,940k) are also worth looking into, as others have noted. Osprey's various skirmish rulesets seem to be pretty hit-or-miss based on reviews, I haven't played any personally
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>>53083637

Also Kings of War: Historical is an option for more streamlined/simplified rules that may be more "approachable" from a GW starting point than Hail Caesar (the go-to simple rules). It has army lists for classical Greece to Conquistadors and Aztecs, although as with any simple/streamlined rules the units can feel a bit same-y.
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Can any of you fine gentleman point me to good resources for the War of the roses? I'm looking to research a diorama of a local battle and want accurate uniforms
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>>53083610
Looks like a German-style potato masher grenade, tho the stick seems awfully short for that.
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>>53083610
>>53083736
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RGD-33_grenade
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>>53083610
>>53083755
also, pics pls
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>>53083784
I have a shit phone camera and the only good room to take photos in is in the bedroom
where the missus is sleeping
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>>53083755
Ah right, the Soviets also made grenades in that style.

Shoulda remembered that after painting several companies in 1/100 scale including a bunch throwing those...
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>>53083755
That's a bit annoying. I thought it was some kind of magnetic anti tank mine/grenade the germans were so scared of.
But thanks anyway
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>>53082996
Are you open to WW2?
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>>53083818
That's a shame
if she's hot post her too
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>>53084218
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>>53084053
Yeah.
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>>53084273
Why is it Bismarck in the first frame but then switches to Louis?
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Guys. What are good wargames for a beginner? Cold War or modern era preferred.
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>>53084599
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>>53084614
Oh, and I heard about Team Yankee. Is it any good?
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>>53084447
shit, might have saved a cheeky edit
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>>53084387
Bolt action. It's not perfect but it's a pretty good second edition. Also cheap to play and a ton of ranges to choose from. Plus they are branching out into konflict 47
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>>53084614
Bolt Action is WW2, but it's a good game for getting into. Easy to play, fairly cheap models, and most importantly, you can get a group into it pretty quickly. Rules are like 40k, and with the new 40k edition, you'll have a good number of people looking to jump ship.

>>53082996
Bolt Action is platoon scale, so not quite skirmish.
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>>53084734
It's a fun game but it couldn't be less historically accurate, if you have an interest in the actual history you'll be frustrated.

Fistful of TOWs is fucking brilliant. FiveCore Company and Brigade Commander are pretty good as well, if heavily abstracted. Cold War Commander is fun, but can be frustrating due to the orders system.

For tank focuses, Modern Micro Armour and Modern Armour are pretty good, but Modern Armour is oddly written and very table intensive.

I've heard good things about Armoured Strike but I've never played it or read the rules.
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>>53086656
Modern Microarmour feels like less well developed FFoT to me.

I wish I knew how well the Fivecore based systems are, I have a feeling they're very simple but I have no idea if they're abstracted in a way that makes for someone new to get the hang of easily.
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>>53087321
FiveCore is super easy to get the hang of, it just lacks the details that a lot of historical gamers seem to crave.
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>>53087321
>wish I knew how well the Fivecore based systems are
Five men in normandy is in the OP
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Assuming you get the correct scale, would pic related work in a wargame?
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>>53087784
There's systems that have been done just for that purpose. I think NEA posted a home brew he'd written for his kid a few months back.
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Map for my group's upcoming Bolt Action campaign. Each player will be picking a Production Center to start in. So far we have Finnish, German, British, and Soviet players. Rules are a modified version of the campaign rules from Ostfront:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1i8uFRqfB0zzFi993U7Piu_ufbXggAq3hmZHrWPVKsd8/edit?usp=sharing
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I recall a couple years ago seeing a blog that took a basic ww2 infantry problem like having a squad attack a MG nest or something like that and running the same problem with a few different rulessets as a kind of trial/review comparing them. Does that sound familiar to anyone? Have the link?
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>>53087947

Yeah, he did. I saved it here.

It needs an editor (what homebrew doesn't?), but it's suprisingly good. I've played a couple of games using it and it produces fun and pretty variable results without being super complex. Needs vehicle rules, though. I love the fact it includes a backblast zone for rocket launchers/RPGs.

I also like it's "overwatch" system more than something like Infinity's, where one model can react automatically to an infinite number of triggers. Biggest problem with the system is a lack of fidelity because it's using a d6 system, but since it's written for kids it's not all that fair to fault it for that.

>credit to NEA for the pdf
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>>53087964
Thanks anon saved. Might try to adapt if you don't mind. Also map is a great idea. Once put together a 40k campaign using planetary empires would like to get a set of the old mighty empires tiles and make Europe our of them. Super hard to find now though.
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>>53088448
I remember it but for some reason I feel like it was a magazine article rather than a blog.

Can't for the life of me find it though.
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>>53087964
Nice! I really dig the scorched earth idea. Should be one hell of a campaign!

I would suggest specifying deployments to start with for the campaign: something like 1000 points in a square box which includes your production center and tech center. Have each players start area contain their main production center and tech center (so you may have to move some closer together)

Its also worth checking that extra production centers (the ones people will be fighting over) are equidistant from all players starting areas. Its a good idea to place production centers all over the place to encourage people to spread out around the map (right now in your map there's no reason to go to north Africa, or the entire lower right section of the map.

I would also strongly recommend implementing secondary production centers that produce half the amount as a main one. That way people fight over the secondary production (like fighting over Poland and Belgium) but when their primary production is taken (like taking Berlin or Moscow) their faction is up shit creek.

For example, I modified your map the way I would do it (roughly - I haven't checked where cities should be and to make sure there are a roughly equal amount of production centers equidistant to all players.)
If you don't have a US and Italian player, make their production centers secondary and remove the tech center. Ideally you don't want a lot of tech centers around, you want most people to be in the 'right' period at all times, unless they're able to capture another factions tech center. I would put a single extra tech center in Poland or France.

Freeform diplomacy is one of the most fun aspects of the campaign, people should be able to freely ally and support each others forces in attacks, they should be able to have non-aggression pacts and break all of these at will. You'll find people will gang up on the biggest threat at any given time, and underdogs will be left alone...
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>>53084734
If you're wanting a straightforward introduction to wargaming then (much as it pains me) go with Team Yankee. It has very simple rules and gives fast and furious action that should keep you engaged.

But as others have said, don't confuse it with being anywhere near historically accurate or a good simulation of modern combat.
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>>53082343
Angrier Greenpeace.

>>53082412
So is Naire an island nation off the coat somewhere? Because that would work, although invasions would be harder... unless they're consistently the aggressors (for ecological reasons), or have mainland holdings and an island capital.
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>>53088448
Totally different, but https://shaun-wargaming-minis.blogspot.co.nz/search/label/heraclea plays the same ancients battle with a bunch of rulesets.
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>>53084599
>>53084622
damn makes me wanna build a DAK platoon.
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>>53084614
Force on Force. It has a free demo scenario with basic rules on the Ambush Alley site where marines have to rescue a downed pilot.
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javelin missiles are pretty commonly used in the anti-infantry role in Afghanistan these days. Seems like a pretty expensive missile for anti infantry. Surely someone will invent a purpose made anti-infantry missile that isn't made to defeat modern battle tanks and doesn't cost 80K per missile? Just something to out-range DShK MGs and deliver a good explosion.

A few shots of them firing Javelins at Taliban in this video, I've seen them used in quite a few other videos from Afghanistan too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ9aBYPMa64
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Hey /hwg/, I've got some Perry Afrika Korps on the way and I've got a scale question.

How well do the Perry boys stack up next to Tamiya 1/48 vehicles. Does it pass as well as the Warlord stuff?
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>>53092141
There's a reason the US army's looking at widespread carl gustafs again. Also: much easier to have specialised ammo types - you can do that with other systems, but for the light disposable launchers you'll never actually carry the specialised stuff even if it's technically available.

Practically though, if all you give your troops is an expensive missile, that shit WILL be fired at cheap targets.
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>>53092194
I don't think so, as the Perry WW2 is purposely smaller to fit with 1:56 vehicles made by them and Blitzkrieg miniatures.
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>>53092213
Thanks, I was worried that was the case - especially since where I live Tamiya is about half the price of the Blitzkrieg or Warlord.
I'll just have to plan a bit more carefully then.
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>>53092141
W-Winnipeg anon?
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Does this have the worst rulebook ever written?
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>>53041149
Best Sengoku guy
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>>53093621
>Choosing Uesugi who spent his entire life in a chivalrous dick measuring contest with the Takeda.

>Not choosing glorious Oda who said, fuck you Takeda and blew them the fuck out with arquebus and alternate firing at Nagashino.
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>>53094055
> You're daimyo a shit
> A SHIIIIIIIT
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>>53094101
I need a smug face Daimyo reaction folder...

Hey >>53041149 what are you thinking of using that figure for? I've looked at the range, but from what I understand they're closer to 32mm and would dwarf my WGF ashigaru and Perry samurai.
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>>53094055
More like
>used terrain, superior numbers and the threat of reinforcements to win at Nagashino rather than a massively over-stated amount of gunners.
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>>53094120
Well yeah, he put the right amount of gunners in the right place and had them fire at the right time to destroy the Takeda charge while it was mid-stream.
I didn't mean to imply that he relied on numbers of guns. That's not really very impressive.
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What's the best 1/72 WW2 miniatures maker? I want Germans and want nice models, but don't want to spend a lot.
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>>53094116
yeah he is slightly larger than the perry ashigaru but not overly so. i think he still works with the 28mm models. I think it gives him the larger than life presence a general should have but without being jarring in stature compared to his men. I would hightly recommend the model. It's a little fiddly to put together (not helped by my wife dropping it) but i was given an extra set of weapons incase the fragile spear bent.

Also fun fact, the guy who sold it to me also did the box art.

I'll post pictures when i am done painting... still got the arms to go.

>>53094055
each to their own. i like the cool warrior monk look. this line has Oda and Takeda too btw
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>>53094180
http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/ManufacturerList.aspx?id=37
http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Review.aspx?id=1719
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>>53093403
>Mayfair Games
I see the problem
Mayfair games have always had issues with their rules sets

although I would have to say the worst ruleset I ever read was GDWs 'Tet Offensive' designed by Frank Chadwick. The rules were so incomplete that the game could not be played. they eventually released all the missing rules in one of their magazines-but to little to late.

which is really odd as Chadwicks works were usually right on the nose with the rules.
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>>53092194
The difference is pretty extreme. 28mm to 1/48 is pretty big too but perry would be off the charts.
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>>53094838
This is amazing! thank you.
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>>53095058
>>53092194

It totally would depend on the vehicles you have in mind.

Small stuff like Motorbikes or a Kubel-/Schwimmwagen would be perfectly fine.
Smaller tanks look still ok with 28mm Warlord minis but stuff bigger than a Panzer 4 will be really big.
Then again, those are really big compared to 1/48 minis too

Pic related is my Tamiya Marder with 2 Warlord plastics.
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>>53095144
Also take a look at Plastic Soldier Company. I think the Zevezda soldiers are nicer sculpts but the PSC figures are designed for wargaming so are more robust.
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Some German late war fj mix of warlord and a few offensive miniatures. Like the guy holding the map.
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>>53091455

Neat, Ive been vacillating on picking an ancients set, will happily check this out
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>>53088524

That's a neat little ruleset. I'd guess that's intended for 8-9 year olds?

I'd personally like to see the basic hit chance dropped from a 5+ to a 4+, given the out of action numbers. Either that or drop the out of action chance to a 3+ on any hit (4+ in cover). Requiring 5+/5+ or 5+/6+ makes things much too hard to kill stuff.

I guess you can throw grenades behind the cover, and that would help. You'd think rifles would be more lethal, though. A pinning mechanic would be a great addition, but I can understand keeping it more simple for kids.

It DOES feel like Infinity, but without the super bloated rules and an actually easy to understand Reaction Fire mechanic. The way the "conditions for reactive fire" are organized are nothing short of genius.
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Hey /hwg/, I've been looking all over the internets for the rules for NATO, Nukes and Nazis. The best I've found is a Japanese translation. Being that I can't read moonrunes, can you help me? I already checked Op, BGG and have exhausted my Google-fu.
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>>53088524
Damn what the hell is up with that mortar template? It looks like the explosion is tearing a hole to another dimension
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>>53078088
Alliance of the Phalanx Campaign, rightful rulers of the nation of Boone.
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>>53098819
>Boone
>all of their wives are dead
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Hey guys getting into SAGA and wanted two counter forces. What do you guys think would be two appealing thematic armies to go up against each other?
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>>53099195
Saxons and Vikings.
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>>53099195
vikings and saxons and you can get GB's plastic starters i got them for £20 each good enough for 4pts starter forces
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Who is your favourite Napoleonic commander?

Mine is Lannes or Boney himself.
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>>53099805
Does Suvorov count? He fought in the Second Coalition.
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>>53094533
Ah shit, someone went to Mr. Fields? Or did he just do the sculpting, I can't remember.
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>>53100297
yeah man Mr Fields. And yeah he did the models himself too i think.
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>>53100511
Cool stuff. Mr. Fields is a bit too far for me to travel to on a lark, but it's a great store.

If you're ever on the other side of Tokyo, you should hit up the West Tokyo Wargamers and our monthly Shimokitazawa pub-gaming meetup.
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>>53099805
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>>53100733
>Bernadotte
Reeee
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>>53098560
http://www.mediafire.com/file/93mcgm9udhcofrw/NNN.pdf

should have all the rules and charts. no maps or counters
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>>53101519
>http://www.mediafire.com/file/93mcgm9udhcofrw/NNN.pdf
Thanks a lot! I spent nearly 2 days of google trying to find this.
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>>53101519
Thanks!
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Got in a good game of Lacquered Coffins down at the wargames club today - battle of Britain, RAF trying to intercept Luftwaffe bombers - a few too many got through though and it ended up as Luftwaffe victory...

Other games being played: Muskets and Tomohawks, Pikeman's lament, FoW (US vs British!?!), a few Warmachine games, and a few Pathfinder groups.
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>>53101768
>>53103396
the vassal mod for this is pretty damn good. includes all the option rules and scenarios and such that were released in Command Magazine.
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Anyone have copies of the scans from Gamers-Garage?
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>>53104358
That game seems to use many dice.
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>>53105850
Its a way to track speed and altitude, 2 dices on the base. Some flying stands have speed and altitude trackers, but we don't have any of those.
The gameplay only uses 2 or 3 dice at a time. Sometimes up to 8 if an aircraft has 8 machine guns. Having dice that are larger by volume than the miniatures probably doesn't help the look of the table :^)
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>>53105904
>dices
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>>53105916
>being that guy when he uses dice as is correct twice in the same post.
typos happen senpai
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>>53105916
yeah noticed that typo after I posted. Unfortunately 4chan doesn't let us edit out posts...

Just got the basecoats done on 2 1/300 Mi-24 Hinds - using pic related color scheme, quick wash and they will be done!

Anyone have advice on painting 1/300 scale infantry? They are incredibly small
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>>53105958
is that 6mm?
Having painted a couple of thousand the keys are, batch paint, small brush, don't sweat the details. And if you don't know what it is paint it black.
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>>53093403
The true worst rulebook needs to be attached to a wonderful game, and be the sort of book that gives you glimpses of the perfection that you could be playing if only you could wrap your head around it.

It has to be Fields of Fire.
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Went to the flea market and got a whole bunch of Airfix Type 1 1:72s, some Type 2s (finally some Russians!) and a bunch of Esci figs.

Plus a Soviet tanker cap for 10 Euros. Livign in Eastern Europe sure is nice. Now I can wear appropriate headgear for FoF.
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>>53104358
Looks great, I really want to get in to Lacquered Coffins. Where is your gaming mat from?
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>>53108235
Deep Cut Studio. It was a custom mat, a service they provide where you can ask for an image or provide your own. They're in Lithuania I think you so have to be clear and patient. Somewhat pricey (at 60 Euro plus 15 euro postage in EU or 30 Euro worldwide postage) but pretty nice quality PVC. they do a range of sizes - ours is 6' X 4'
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>>53108279
Looks really good. I've been wanting to do some more aerial wargaming ever since my wargaming group did a Warhammer 40k Aeronautica Imperialis campaign a few years ago.
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>>53108029
i think its been years since i last saw scale kits or anything related on a flea market here.
This hobby is dying out i fear.
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Can you play Bolt Action with 1/72 models? I am a newfag to historical wargames and never had to deal with differing scales.
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>>53094980
What's really bizarre about Age of Napoopan is that the rules SEEM to be more or less entirely complete. The problem is that they are literally incomprehensible, at least for me.

>>53108279
This looks great from this angle, as if it's actually real.
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>>53109089
Of course you can.

But if you do, your opponent needs 1/72 stuff too.
If you re-calculate the ranges for movement and shooting after changing the scale is up to you.


You can play different ww2 rulesets with your 1/72 army too btw.
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>>53109089
You can, but if folks in your area play it in 28mm, it might be a wiser investment.

Since here it was me who started it, and everyone's a cheapskate, except when it comes to 40k, 1:72 was the best decision.
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>>53109089
yes. it will be cheaper, and have a wider range of vehicles and units available. Only problem is most people play in 28mm like the other anons said. If you're starting up with some friends, you can convince them to go 1/72 and everybody wins
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>>53109140
>>53109143
Me and my friends are buying models for FiveCore and there's a shit ton of other miniatures in the box, so we might expand into Bolt Action. Since my closest LGS is a GW and a half hour drive it's just us playing.
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>>53109272
Then there is nothing that should be able to stop you from playing BA in that scale.
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>>53109272
Then go for 1:72 anon. If you want the 28mm crowd be jealous, you can get some AB figures too.
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>>53109272
Like other anons have said, go for it. And then, when you've had your fill of FiveCore/Five Men in Normandy/At Kursk and Bolt Action, you can try out a multitude of other games, like Chain of Command or I Ain't Been Shot Yet, Mum.
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>>53078088
>good African militia figures that are available in 1/72?
Use of a mix of other lines. African Militia is an IRL kit-bash. Take almost any figure dressed for a warm climate from WWI to Modern day, paint mismatching camo and dark skin.
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>>53111339
>no rubber boots
>no FAL

;_;
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Finished my 1/48 Elefant.

Probably won't see any action in any BA game besides from maybe as objective marker, but it looks awesome.
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>>53108279
imagine that but with clear bases
wonderful
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>>53111339

Stat me, /hwg/
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>>53111448
Looks real good.
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>>53111448
*two thumbs up*!
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>>53098743
You must have never been a kid if reality-warping explosions weren't part of play for you.
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>>53089860
This is actually a much better map than mine. I think I'll use something similar to it. Thank you!

>>53088649
You might try making it with a HeroScape set?
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>>53089860
Tweaked it a bit to account for how we don't have French or Italian players.

So far, the initial diplomacy looks to be the Anglo-German Alliance against the Soviet-American pact. Finland(me) has made no commitments yet. I did take your suggestion, so now we have Capitals vs. Production Centers, and I made Madrid and Warsaw the only two spare tech centers, which should encourage fighting over them.
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>>53113602
>and I made Madrid and
Forgot to save the map before uploading, but I've fixed that now
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Anyone here play spectre operations? Wanted to do a t-54 tank along with a middle eastern militia against some american special forces but can't find the rules for the tank gun.
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>>53113140
What's a heroscape set? Is tile based like mighty empires?
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Anyone got a PDF of Blitzkrieg Commander 3? I know there's controversy surrounding the rules but I would like to give it a look myself.
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>>53111669
>Swimming +10 [equipment - life jacket]
>Swimming - 15 [racial ability - black]
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>>53115011
Heroscape was a kids targeted Warhawks that had this really neat stackable hex terrain. It's OOP now, but it was perfect for Battletech.
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>>53115443

kek
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>>53115719
Thanks anon. I'll see if eBay has any floating around.
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>>53036271
Is Men Who Would be Kings (Osprey) a good wargames set for the 1920s Riff War?
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>>53116282
I'm not sure about the Osprey rules, but TooFatLardies have a wargamer's guide to the Rif War and it recommends the following:

> Square Bashing or Bayonets and Ideology from Peter Pig
> Contemptible Little Armies from HLBS
> Death in the desert (although the link they provide for it 404s)
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>>53036271
>>53036278

Is DBMM (De Bellis Magistrorum Militum, as opposed to DBM) in the folders and I'm just too dumb to find it?

I don't like how few figures are in DBA and DBM seems too clunky, but supposedly DBMM 2e answers both those concerns
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Does anyone know a good manufacturer for basing material?
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>>53117949
>basing material
That could mean a whole lot of different things. What are you after exactly?
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>>53117949
What are you basing? There is a ton of stuff out there and most is just repackaged from somewhere else.
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Anyone know of some 28mm t-55's?
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>>53118283
Try here http://www.blitzkriegminiatures.com
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>>53109809
Is there any rules difference between Five men at Normandy and Five men at Kursk?
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>>53118522
Normandy is smaller scale and a bit older. I've never played Kursk but Normandy is fucking ace.
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>>53118060
>>53118118
Mainly different grass types, vegetion and flowers.
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>>53118949
Try scenery express http://www.sceneryexpress.com/mobile/Grass-Ground-Covers-Flowers/departments/1032/
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>>53116968
>Is DBMM (De Bellis Magistrorum Militum, as opposed to DBM) in the folders and I'm just too dumb to find it?
Fraid not anon
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Trying get into Bolt Action
I'm Torn between German Grenadiers and US rangers or airborne as the faction I want to play. Anyone got a good synopsis on the strength weaknesses of both factions?
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>>53120279
America has excellent mobility, because their rifles, LMG equivalent(BARs) and some of their tanks don't take penalties from firing on the move. Their air observers can also call in two airstrikes per game, which is very powerful. Finally, American units take no penalty from outflanking.

In contrast, German squads have a 5/6 chance of someone else replacing the sergeant if the sarge dies, say to a sniper or exceptional damage. While this doesn't seem like a lot, it makes them much more resistant to sniper fire, and it's very useful given how important morale is in Bolt Action. Also, German machine guns are much better than everyone else's because the MG34 and MG42 had such high fire rates. They fire one extra shot(normally 4 for LMGs and 5 for MMGs, Germans get 5 and 6 respectively. This is a big deal)

When it comes to differences in units: Americans have good all rounder tanks with the Sherman and the Pershing, and they can spam heavy machine gun teams. The Germans have some of the most dominant tanks in the game with the Panther, Tiger, etc, and their infantry can take assault rifles. Very scary.
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>>53120617
Hmm ok
I aiming for mostly infantry and maybe 2-3 vehicles for now.
What about Brits?
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>>53113602
Looks great man, should be a fun campaign!
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>>53120664
Britain is very unpredictable because colonial troops, never quite sure what you're facing, and they always get a free offsite artillery strike. Other than that, they share a lot of vehicles with the US.

Generally, mostly infantry and 2-3 vehicle is a good amount for Bolt Action.
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>>53113602
You could also have the united states start in Italy or Egypt if you want them to be closer to the action. I just put them in the operation torch area because it seemed out of the way-ish
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> Still no plastic 15mm Napoleonics.

Why even live.
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>>53119750
>Fraid not anon

Darn

>>53121068

Is there plastic 15mm anything other than WW2?
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>>53121204

A little bit of American Civil war I think.

I think I'll just buy AB, they've packaged them up into bags of 8 now, before you had to buy each guy separately.
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>>53120279
Tldr Americans are god mode Germans are meh but got better with new army book.
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Telephone lines, bunker, and pillbox for Bolt Action. We're doing eastern front and Winter War, so snow i the order of the day.
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>>53120617
>and they can spam heavy machine gun teams.
.30cal medium machine gun teams, they can take three of those, or one .50cal team.

>>53120664
Good arty, nice all-rounder tanks.
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>>53118522
It's quite a bit different. While keeping all the same ideas, it's been redesigned for squads and not a random assortment of guys.

I haven't given it a try yet, but it looks like a leaner, meaner, less random Normandy - with the added bonus of being able to use vehicles more easily.

That said, it's gone from about 5-10 guys a side to 10-30 guys a side.
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