/WFG/ Warhammer Fantasy General

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First for unspeakable acts.

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>>53031855
I came up with a few new marks but there are still several gaps. Any suggestions?

>>53031886

http://www.the-ninth-age.com/index.php?thread/14478-norwegian-black-metal-wotdg/&pageNo=1

Bit more generic chaos.

Reminder that most of the warhammer world was either vaguely defined wasteland/wilderness filled with monsters or some unplayable faction that would never be explored in depth and that nothing mattered except for a few empire cities and dwarfholds. Army and population sizes were completely arbitrary and depend on how epic the writers wanted to make the story. Towns and nations got wiped out all the time to make X look good but it didn't matter in the grand scheme of things.

>>53031987
it was just as detailed but vague enough to allow your own dudes.
That's what mattered.

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>mfw really want to get vermintide
>mfw it has fucking end times attached to it

It's like someone offering you a delicious cake covered in fecal icing.

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>>53031559
Should we have a link to a Storm of Magic PDF in the next OP? Is there any interest in it?

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SONS 'O GRUNGI!

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>>53032112

Great game, just ignore the ET shit. It's not rammed down your throat anyway.

>>53032147

I would be for that.

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>>53032162

>>53032024
so, just like age of sigmar but on a smaller scale?

>>53032192

Yes exactly like sage of smeg... there was only one very minor difference, Fantasy wasn't complete and utter unadulterated shite.

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>>53032112
If you wanna get it just get it. End Times can't hurt us anymore.

I would love to see Sega or someone make an open-world Warhammer RPG where there are massive battles happening all over the game world for flavor. When you get powerful enough you can actually participate in battles as a hero and help turn the tide.

I was thinking about this when I was playing Total Warhammer, with the way hero characters can run all over the world doing quests. It would be interesting to have a game where you actually create and play as a hero character in the Warhammer universe. It would have roots in the WH Fantasy Roleplay system too, obviously.

>>53032180
Duly noted.

>>53031855
Say, does anyone think that no basic skill should have attack advancements and that it should only be available to Advanced Skills?

>>53032192
do you never get tired of this?
the simple fact that you can't tell what's the difference between FB and smegdreg tells us a lot.

>>53032112
It's done in a tasteful manner. The characters know that Kislev has been overrun by northmen (what's new) but other than that, they just assume that shit is hitting the fan locally.

>>53032244

It looks like Alien Isolation 2 isn't happening, which is a shame since that was a very underrated game, but it means CA's got a department with nothing on so maybe SEGA will set them to work on something else Fantasy.

>>53032218
>there was only one very minor difference, Fantasy wasn't complete and utter unadulterated shite.
That's your opinion man. If your opinion is the only thing separating fantasy from AoS, then I guess they really aren't so different after all

>>53032421
That's awful, Alien Isolation was the best horror game in years and easily the best Alien franchise title since the original AVP games. What a shame.

Hopefully Alien's loss can translate into Warhammer's gain, though.

>>53032438

Yes it is my opinion and I have evidence to support it but I don't have the energy tonight to feed the trolls, sorry.

>>53031901
they didn't even show the mini that that blurb referred to, or am I missing something?
There were just two generic warriors on steed.

>>53032445

I don't think it's a definite write off but they haven't started working on it 2 years after the first one which probably means it wont happen now.

>>53032112
Just insert the story into Storm of Chaos / headcanon the rest of the stuff about the end times. The game takes place before the resurrection of Nagash, so very little of said plot has moved.

>>53032461
You have literally no evidence because there is no way to determine that a setting is objectively bad, stop lying to yourself. Not that you could tell me any new anti sigmar slander, I've already seen 2 straight years of the paragraphs of frothing man babby rage that just amount to more opinions, mostly based on second hand meme information

>>53032112
Just get it anon, it's actually a really fuckin good game. I didn't even realise it was tied to the End Times until your post. In hindsight it all clicks but atthe time I had too many skaven to RIP AND TEAR to notice

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>>53032112

> Implying Vermintide isn't how they stop the end times.

Just as Mannlette von Carstein is about to fuck everything up Kruber steps out and perforates him with a repeater. Gelt casts the spell and all is well.

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>>53032553

>>53032553

Being real here I hope AoS works out for you, I don't want it to be a shit game and it probably will sort its self out over the next few years.

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>tfw no blessed champions of the empire human gods to be an answer to the monsters and chaos warriors of the world
>not even a few
>literally every other faction has these, including bretonnia
But I guess HFY faggotry is better because "muh normal dudes defending their home"

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>>53032798
>But I guess HFY faggotry is better because "muh normal dudes defending their home"
Glad we agree.

>>53032869
>normal dudes
>posts picture of Grail knight
Good one Anon

>>53032798
the Empire has mages so stop whining.

The Empire not having superhuman elites is their whole appeal. But what do you expect from an Aosbabby

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Here we decide which of the non-army book factions were best. (ie. not one of the 8th edition 15)

Fimir were so underutilised by GW, they shouldn't have let 1 bad experience during their inception put them off.

>>53032994
What the fuck do mages have to do with it, everyone except the dwarfs has those?

>AoS
Literally mentioned nowhere, I just think it's genuinely retarded that in a setting where god touched warriors are an accepted and normal part of the setting, the empire has absolutely none. Having a few champions blessed by Ulric or Taal or sigmar wouldn't ruin anything. No more than demigryph knights or luminarks

>>53032798
The fact they're all normal dudes is what makes the Empire so incredibly badass.

Reading about how Karl Franz demolishes Orc warbosses and causes Archaon himself to run away in fear is all the more awesome when Franz isn't some superhuman elite with magical powers, but an ordinary man, albeit one with quite a powerful hammer.

You missed the point of the Empire entirely.

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>>53033342
Still pissed they didn't do more with Cathay, a nation who would BTFO the empire based on what we know of them

>>53033460
You missed the part where Karl Franz was literally empowered by Sigmar to defeat that black orc war boss, and Archaon never ran away from him.

>>53033460
But Archaon shat on Karl multiple times and only killed the ork because he got le super sigmar deus ex machina mode

tl:dr karl and empire = a shit

>>53033466
>a nation who would BTFO the empire based on what we know of them
nothing i'm reading there would indicate that.

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Reminder that Ancient Nehekara would absolutely shit all over the empire and was by far the superior human nation. In undeath they'd stomp even harder

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>>53033834

> We wuz kangs.

Reminder that boney baggins never looked this stylish.

>>53033815
In Tamurkhan they had canons, magical fireworks that conjured spectral illusions, tomb king levels of animated statues, some of which could fly and others which could swim through land, powerful wizards and repeating crossbows. On top of what is mentioned here.
They're basically human high elves + tomb kings + empire.
The empire would get swept in the first round

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>>53033902

> Oriental bully not so tough after having wall removed an being raped.

>>53033506
>>53033716
>received sigmar's blessing to kill him

But held his own for hours against him otherwise, and this was an Orc that was tough even by Black Orc Warboss standards.

And this was AFTER carving his way through dozens if not hundreds of Orcs himself all while completely un-Sigmarified.

Also
>archaon never ran from him
>hears karl is coming to middenheim
>literally flees right into the loving embrace of an orc beatdown

Franz is my husbando.

>>53033902
nothing they have isn't something the empire doesn't have in some form or another.

I don't see the point of the hypothetical scenario anyway. What reason would they have to fight the Empire?

Aside from that speaking from the armybook perspective, I'm sure they'd be about the same :^)

>>53033902
Cathay was utterly stomped by Grimgor in End Times.

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>>53034026
>in End times

>>53034026

This is Warhammer, everyone fights everyone.

The Empire and Cathay are natural enemies,
just like the Empire and Bretonnia,
and the Empire and Estilia,
and The Empire and its own provinces.
Damn Todbringer ruined the Empire.

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Not to be a little bitch but are there any High Elf schemes that aren't primarily white?

Looking through the uniforms and heraldry book not a single one doesn't use white as the base colour.

>>53034187
no, Rank and File units will look weird without their white base colour.

But you can go nuts on special units like Dragon Princes and Ellyrian Reavers, where every Individual may be displaying their own heraldry.

what's the easiest way to play WHFB online?

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>>53034434

Well, since they no longer sell spearmen I've been using sea guard as my spear elves and to go with the sea theme I was thinking of painting them Cothique but I really don't like white and black as the primary colour on a model. So I was thinking of something like picture related. I would probably go for a darker sea green than the aqua though.

>>53034046
Of we're accepting Reynolds lore as canon, Cathay held its own against the initial chaos and hobgoblin raids, then beat back the skaven invasion, then held out against the chaos dwarfs and the even bigger chaos invasion that followed. Not to mention the massed tzeentchian cult uprisings that happened In the beginning. Only after getting fucked by all of that did Cathay fall to Grimgors WAAAGH, and by that point they were pretty much in the same state the empire was in after ET thanquol.

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>>53032500

I think it was supposed to be her.

>>53032798
>He wants blessed champions of the human gods
I can think of a newer game by GW that might be right up your alley

My current FRP game is sticking to old/pre-ET lore for obvious reasons and after reading some even older fluffbooks I gotta say that I really love the idea of the Chaos Gods of Law. Aluminas in particular seems like some benevolently Lovecraftian shit.

Would having the Gods of Law be present in the Warhammer world circa Storm of Chaos be any kind of gamebreaker? Their followers are rare so it's not like there'd be churches, but it'd be realistic for those few to be like "Yeah glad Archaon got whipped back guess ol Solky was out for blood"?

>>53036262

This is pretty much what Bretonnia was.

>>53033427

>mages which access to all lores
>everyone has that

It's just elves (all 3 kinds), empire and lizardmen (and them only from 2k points onwards)

>>53036382
if they are anything like Moorcock's Gods of Law then they'd be no storybreakers at all, seeing as they don't do jack shit, because "muh Balance" even when Chaos is fucking winning. they only show up to give quests, verbal thanks and take credit.

>>53033506
>Pressing the SMASH button on Ghal Maraz = blessed by Sigmar

>>53037299
That was their catch, the sheer contrast between heroic knights blessed by the gods with illetrate inbred peasants

The Empire has enough catches as it is

Do you guys rekon with Vermintide keeping updated and Total Warhammer (2) we'll atleast see some vidya games set in the Fantasy Universe, or will GW end up refusing licensing anything that isn't Age of Shitmar?

>>53032557

Have you not beaten the last mission yet? It literally ends on a monologue about how 'this is only the beginning, this is THE END TIMES (tm)'

Aside from that though it's completely divorced from the End Times really.

halfling are cannibals (or, rather, man-eaters, since they are different species from humans), right?
and they live so close to Sylvania?
why don't Empire use halflings to devour the dead in Sylvania so vampires have no one to raise?

>>53039454
or killed vampires themselves. to paraphrase Pratchett, "the vampires have risen from the dead, the crypt and the grave, but never from a halfling."

>>53039423
There was hack and slash game announced recently, i think TWW made Warhammer Fantasy more popular than ever, GW is not going to stop selling IP.

>>53039500
>There was hack and slash game announced recently
mm, whatwherewhen? i missed that

>>53039520
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2017/03/new-warhammer-fantasy-video-game-announced.html

>>53039500
>>53039545

Awesome. Heres hoping FB lives on in Vidya form.

>>53039545
holy fuck, what a time to be alive!

since i can't get my friends into tabletops anyway i start thinking that if WHFB the Wargame had to die to make way for WHFB the Video Games, that's a good trade-off.

is there any point in Crypt Horrors? my Core is full of tarpits, why would I need more anvil in Special?

>>53034005
What actually happened:

>To the west, the air shimmered with unnatural power, and the skies themselves bucked and whirled as if tortured by an unseen hand. A shadow began to gather in the forests and stretched toward Middenheim. From this great lake of darkness, chittering screeches and monstrous bellows could be heard. Eyes glinted in the shadowy veil, and cruel laughs and nightmarish curses flowed upon a hot wind. A shimmer of terror spread through the ranks of Karl Franzs army as the Daemonic host approached, and a shadowy winged figure rose into the air above the unnatural legion. His wings were spread wide, and his clawed hand stretched out toward the Emperor. Belakor ordered his legion forward, cutting off Karl Franz from Archaon and leaving Valtens massively outnumbered force to fight against the Everchosen.

http://web.archive.org/web/20041104015343/http://stormofchaos.uk.games-workshop.com:80/daythree.htm

>>53039545
I still can't understand what does GW mean by this.

>>53042008
>new gw management less retarded about vidya
>GWs good settings get new vidya because there's a lot of potential
>GWs bad settings don't because devs don't want to sink money in it

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>>53032244
>DD:DA with a bigger budget and a warhammer skin
Never going to happen, though, or any big budget warhammer RPG for that matter

>>53040041

Crypt Horrors are like Dwarf Iron Breakers, you have loads of anvils in core but these boys are the best in the business. They're probably in the top 3 anvils in the game, once you start healing them they won't shift.

The only downside is the models look shit, we didn't need 8 ft. versions of ghouls.

playing Skaven vs High Elves. How the hell do I deal with a frostheart phoenix? Rat ogres? Doomwheels?

>>53043436

I would stay away from it and try to shoot it since it has -1S and ASL for those in base contact.

What about a warp cannon?

>>53043165
I wouldn't have such a glum outlook-- Total Warhammer is a huge money maker for Sega, and RPGs are a hot genre right now.

>>53043435
The models are kind of lame, but you could get some Skin Wolves and use them as proxies.

>>53043544

Good idea, or Fimir.

No one will ever convince me GW ghouls look good.

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Reminder that bretonnians are scum and need to be killed.

>>53043597
Ghouls are just plain boring. They were some of my first WH models and I haven't finished painting them all these years later because they're just a big sea of Gollums.

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>>53044054

They were just too stylised and, as you say, ended up looking like 30 Gollum's.

Mantic's were slightly better.

>>53044054
what do you think of TW:WH ghouls?

>>53041176
Anon, please, I try to forget that Geedubya retconned Archaon into not getting his asshole demolished.

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>>53044099

They just look like the current models.

scrub here. was unable to locate the answer in the rules so... if i have a unit of 30 ungors can 20 of them have hand weapons while the third rank of 10 have spears? or do they all have to have the same equipment?

8th edition

>>53044441

They must all have the same equipment, I see what you're trying to do though.

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>>53044093
The problem is that those ghouls look like regular zombies.

Ghouls in Warhammer are a cannibal monster that have mutated from humans without being undead. Rather than being necrotic shambling corpses, they turn into feral imp-like creatures. Lore-wise I think that's a great way to distinguish them from zombies, it's just that the models are not very exciting. They just look like a bunch of hunched over monkey people.

The ghouls from Shadow of Mordor were pretty rad. I wish I had gone with a color scheme more like that on my WH ghouls rather than the boring rotten brown look I ended up going with, but I hate these models too much to dump them in brake fluid and re-do them when I'm already so close to finishing, so they are what they are.

question on rules:
Say there is something that multiplies wounds (like the sister of twilight that says if it wounds, multiply it by d3 or somthing). Is that only on the single model hit? If I shoot into a unit of 30 and the one arrow hits, will it only kill one model, or do X wounds to the unit and you can spread them out?

>>53032112
It's terrific, if you even suspect you'll like it you will end up loving it. I've got over 130 hrs in already and new DLC comes out in a matter of days

>>53044494
i always thought the goblins from the hobbit goblin town playset would make neat ghouls.
They even kind of look like what you posted there, just presumably smaller (i never played shadow of mordor)

>>53035093
MOIST

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>>53044760
Isn't the Moot right next door to Sylvania?
You could fluff them as halflings.

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>tfw bought 150€ of empire units

One steam tank, 3 demigryphs, 20 spearmen and 10 handgunners

>>53043435
I actually like the models, and wish the ghouls looked distinctly different. Like, if they were less twisted, and Crypt Horrors were more twisted, that'd be awesome.

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>>53044239
The older models weren't the best, but at least they looked more distinctly human. You could even dress them up in human clothes if you wanted, to make them more Bretonnian or Empire or whatever.

>>53044239
they remind me of warcraft ghouls.

>>53044929

One too many pies made from travellers.

>>53044494
>>53045130

Yeah I preferred the old 6th edition style more, where they looked like humans shunned from society rather than another species.

>>53044991

That seems... pretty fucking expensive? Was it brand new?

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>>53044760
>>53044929

That's a pretty good idea actually. They scale up really well.

>>53045130
Those do look a lot more interesting. They aren't all stuck in the same bland hunched over pose, and they have a lot of different weapon types. New ghouls are basically either unarmed or holding pieces of bone.

>>53044681
I'm playing it so far and really enjoy it, and aside from the opening cutscene it is devoid of any reference to the Ass-end Times so far, which is brilliant.

>>53043436

Cannons, poisonous gutter runners and jezzails.

Against HElves and their snowflake bullshit bring lots of runners. With a 5+5+ the frostheart is not nearly as durable as it seems.

Stormbanner locks it in place for at least a full round, and if you go with Ruin lore, howling warpgale can be snuck in on a one or two surplus dice to fuck with them even more.

Jezzails will hit it on 4+, wound on 4+ and negate the armor. It means that on an average of 10 jezzails (go big or go home with them), you get 5 hits in, and 2-3 wounds, of which 1 will be saved on average.

Doomwheel is not worth bringing against Helves

>>53044637

Only if you hit multi-wound models. If you shoot on a unit of spearmen, your single arrow will do 1 wound. If you shoot it at ogres, it will do d3 wounds to a SINGLE model

>>53044991

You were ripped off

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>>53031855
Yo Any of you fine Fellas have any PDF's or anything for Warhammer Novels? I cant seem to Find any and would like to give the Gotrek and Felix series a try and maybe any others.

>>53047126
iirc somebody posted a mega a few days back in another thread, but it's not in the op because it got removed a few times apparently?
Anyway check the archives, you might get lucky.

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Are memes allowed?

>>53048520
I lend my calcium to thee, brave Skelly!

>>53046304
thank you!

>>53048520
Consider my celcium lend to they skel

>>53047126
>>53047699

It is the OP, under 'Resources' there is a novel archive.

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>>53048947
>>53047699
>https://mega.nz/#F!9Lw1WIRZ!eKxkOlAQwuZO3_8pHOK-EQ

Found it Thanks Anons

>>53043985
That file name was unneeded, we can all see his cannon.

>>53049212
I just finished reading brunner. I want to genocide bretcucks.

>>53049225
What'd they do, call your mom a serf?

>>53049225
I have no idea what that means, all I know is that I am completely distracted by that bulge.

>>53049396
no I just realized how bretonnia gets by just fine with their meme society while the empire protects the world against chaos and has far superior fashion.

What would he be like in the Warhammer Fantasy world?

How completely fucked would Chaos be?

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>>53049658
Forgot image, I'm a retard.

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>>53049677
Hypothetically, what would be a good counts-as for an Ash mini in either the Empire or Brettonia?

>>53049828
A Witch Hunter, perhaps.

>>53049677

Well, he had 2 shells in the barrel. After that a wizard would probably just incinerate him.

>>53049952
With those two shells he could kill most of the Skaven, wipe out the Chaos Gods, and tussle with Gork and Mork, and still have time left to go to Jacksonville.

>>53049677
well he wound up in bretonnia so...

>>53049677
He barely survived in in a place very much like Mousillon, so chaos is hardly worried.

>>53050819
Chaos is terrified of him.

Serious question here, but if GW brought Fantasy back would people bite?

Lets imagine the AoS range stayed the same but they packaged everything with rounds and squares and sold PDF's of all the old army books, would people go back or has that ship sailed for most people?

>we never got the hobgoblins, Cathay, Ind, Araby, Kislev, Nippon, or chaos dwarves
Araby was only in warmaster and the chaos dwarves are no longer supported which sucks.
Sucks there's no ancient Chinese soldier models to use as a giant empire proxy and Nippon seems like it would function closer to Bretonnia than the empire if it's anything like feudal japan.

>>53052105
Only if they radically changed their prices.
GW was always a little on the pricey side, but when we're talking £5 for a plastic infantry figure, I just can't justify it.

>>53052105
>Serious question here, but if GW brought Fantasy back would people bite?
I'd at least feel the motivation to get back to working on the dozens of unfinished projects.

Tbh I don't think I'll have to buy another mini for the next 10 years and I'll still be plenty busy.

For WHFB alone I got seven different armies in the making, five of them almost entirely unassembled.

is there an online resource with definitions of all of the Warhammer 8th ed. keywords? I'm new to the game so when something says Armour Piercing or Primal Fury I sometimes need to see the actual definition of it to know exactly what it means.

>>53052481

Fuck, I'm not that bad but I have about 2000 points of unassembled Empire and about 1000 points of unassembled High Elves.

I don't lack motivation but sometimes it feels like a race against time, you never know if next week a certain unit will be discontinued and then it throws the whole project into the air.

Set yourself some goals anon, I want you to finished 10 infantry and post the results by the end of the week.

>>53052589

To add, this is why I keep buying shit when I haven't finished the old shit I already have.

>>53052105
It's hard to say. On one hand, I would be more likely to get into the community if there was enough support for one to actually exist, and there's some stuff I could officially buy to show my support and all.

But I feel like the ship has sailed for most people - it's been a couple years now, and I don't think many WFB fans still exist - they're either disillusioned with GW, or moved on to AoS.

>>53052779

Depends where you live, still plenty of them in the UK.

>>53052589
>Set yourself some goals anon, I want you to finished 10 infantry and post the results by the end of the week.
lately I only bought random bits and pieces for Frostgrave and some miniatures from Gates of Antares.
I think I need a change from GW more than anything else.
I'm just a bitter old man trapped in the body of a bitter younger man's body.

>>53052859

I tend to mix Fantady with historicals. Flames of War and Lion Rampant etc.

Much smaller games that you can finish an army for in about a month at full steam ahead, helps break up the longer Fantasy projects.

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Does anyone have this image at a better resolution? I'd appreciate it if someone could post it.

>>53054351
That's from the Slaves to Darkness book if you want higher resolution. There's a PDF in the OP somewhere.

>>53054409
Thanks!

So, what is the best WFRPG edition? I've heard a lot of people say 2, but what do you all think?

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>>53054463
Posting because why not.

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Asur are cutest race.

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What if Vlad had won the Vampire wars and became emperor? Would the original empire ever have a chance of coming back from that?

>>53056523
Chaos would win because there would no wielder of Ghal Maraz. High Elves and Dwarfs would be weakened without Empire taking the main hit even if vampires hate chaos.

>>53043435
ah, models are no matter, I was planning on using werewolves anyway

okay, so seeing as I'm using skellingtons instead of zombies in core I might as well make some crypt horrors. thanks.

>>53045601
god I love such compare images, they are incredibly useful.
anyone got any more? no matter what races, or even if it crosses over into 40k/Warmachine/AoS, you never know where you may need bits from

>>53056481
before this concept art I was sure I wasn't into High Elves. now I'm not so sure

pity-shame there's no mini of this chick

>>53056523
coming back to clusterfuck constantly torn apart by power-hungry Elector Counts and bickering religions, you mean?

Vlad was nothing if not reasonable. he wouldn't curb neither magic nor technology. only thing that would be gone would be separation and disunity

>>53056617
because one nail-driver can do so much against hordes of iron-clad barbarians

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>>53056685
>pity-shame there's no mini of this chick
get the next best thing

>>53056796
but there's no her own hair sticking out of her helm like a plumage

it ain't the same

>>53056481
>CA giving us elf waifus.
based.

>>53056481
why is scale armour so sexy? it's absolutely the most bestest armour kind there is, was, will be or can possibly exist

Malus Darkblade?

More like Phallus Fartblade

>>53057553
yes

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>>53056918
Its shame its almost never used outside of Warhammer and Lord of the Rings.

>>53032798
>Age of Sigmar

>>53052344
>feudal Japan style nippon
>code of honor and sudoku if you refuse challenge

I can dig it. Only real way to do it without it being aweful. Funny, I fucking hate weeb shit but love L5R and feudal shit.

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>>53056481
my favourite part about elf armour is the cuirass.

greatest single piece of armor ever invented. Though I would love to see some Chainmaille worked into the High Elf designs.

>>53056813
I don't think it is her own hair sticking out of the helmet, that would be awfully difficult to put on

>>53059294
yes it is

the elves never spare any effort in looking fabulous

>>53059311
perhaps it was intended that way at some point, but it looks to me like they went with the blue plume for the final concept.

A Helmet with your hair sticking out the top would be horribly obtuse, and would actually put your hair at risk of being cut off in combat.

>>53059365
she's an archer
she doesn't risk her perfect hair
duh

>>53059412
I don't think she's mere Archer.

>>53059108
>code of honor and number puzzles if you refuse challenge

Um...

>>53059454
i never said mere. she's absolutely beautiful and awesome archer.

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In the conspet stage of a pet project and I have some questions:

What weapons are used by rat catchers? would a flint lock and dagger be plausable?

Do people in Tilea also deny the existance of skaven? or are they just bedtime stories?

How much pasta and wine does the average tilien drink?

Can horned/screaming/doombells summon Lords of Decay?

Would it be a stretch to put some mutated goblins/river trolls in Tobaro's underway for some encounter variation?

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>>53059494
dude brah, you need to rethink your priorities.

disregard bints, acquire dragon

>>53056481
That qt an ellyrian rever? Isha knows normal archers only go out in robes

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>>53059537
Ellyrians wear lamellar Armor.

Also Lothern Seaguard wear armor and use bows.

>>53059507

they steal people in Tilea all the time. Tileans know about them, but can do nothing about it.

it's Screaming Bells, and Lords of Decay are Skaven government. you're thinking Vermin Lords, the greater daemons. and no, the bells normally do not, but who knows? The sound of Screaming Bell tears reality a new one.

No, it can happen. If anything, you can fluff anybody as runaway skaven slaves.

>>53059587
Thanks I'm working on a short game about a tilien boy and his dog sorta finding out about them after his family is taken by them, sorta becoming a rat catcher by circumstance, but if Tiliens actively know that rats are about it might be beter to reset in the empire (but that would take out a lot of the flavor)

>>53059580
She doesn't have that seaweed designs on her armor though.
She might just be a waifu noble

>>53059507
>What weapons are used by rat catchers? would a flint lock and dagger be plausable?
Sure, a wealthy ratcatcher could plausibly have a handgun, especially if he has been freaked out by what he saw down there in the past. The main problem is becoming a wealthy ratcatcher.
>>How much pasta and wine does the average tilien drink?
See Italians
>>Would it be a stretch to put some mutated goblins/river trolls in Tobaro's underway for some encounter variation?
Go for it. Not sure how much mutation you actually need for this though, sewer is basically a summer home for goblins and trolls.

>>53059661
>default Helf armor design
>blue colour scheme
but most importantly
>is brown
she's either a Lothern noble, but certainly from Eataine.

>>53059765
Saphery is also plausable and she's a mid tone than a brown

Eitherway she's perfect When druchii aren't an option

>>53059587
Do skaven keep slaves long enough for that? I figure that have to eat captives to feed their black hunger if not the hunger of some of the really big clan moulder monsters

>>53056523
Dwarfs, Bretonnians, sigmarite loyalists and tileans would eventually sweep through the empire and remove the vampire aristocracy, or at least try. It would be tragic seeing as Vlad would have been the greatest emperor since Sigmar himself, and could have united the empire to better stand against chaos.

Alternatively, the Tomb Kings get word that vampires are openly ruling and Settra and Khalida march north to BTFO them the same way they did to all those chaos tribes in the war of sand and snow

>>53059832
black hunger mostly manifests after severe exertion, e.g. battle

and Skaven need slaves to do all the work, so yeah, they do keep them around for a while

>>53059872
>tileans
>doing anything
>being relevant ot fluff, ever
haha, no

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>>53059468
Check out this guy, not knowing how to commit sudoku.

Also not sure how new you are or if I'm being baited anymore.

>>53059945
My apologies, I assumed you were an idiot rather than someone forcing an aging meme.

>>53038302
Moorcock's Gods in general tend not to do a lot. Arioch in the Elric saga is an obvious exception, but most of the time they're too busy fighting the others to bother interfering on the mortal planes.

>>53060298
I couldn't stomach Elric for some reason, I most read Corum, and there all three Chaos Gods did quite a bit of work.
Arioch was actively fucking with remnants of Order on his planes, Xiombarg personally bitchslapped a lot of Order loyalists when she conquered her five planes, and was overseeing the siege of the last bastion of said Order, and Mabelode just turned his worlds into pure Chaos, was sending agents and promises into other worlds and gathering an army to stop the title character.

And the only Order God in the book did jack shit, besides saving main character once, when said god was depowered and badly needed help. So yeah.

>>53059935
but most skaven slaves are actual skaven no?

>>53060366
I forgot about Corum, but it DOES help that the Big Three there are basically the bosses he has to kill. I read Hawkmoon last, and there the Gods as a whole do fuck all.

>>53060404
yeah, because skaven breed like rats
they still capture and use a lot of other creatures to use as slaves

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Not to be confused with the Current Order vs Chaos Gods discussion, which this post is not part of,
but why are so many Chaosfags obsessed with streamlining and categorizing Chaos? Havin four major factions/Gods as you will is streamlined enough, not even mentioning that they are cooperating more often than the Imperial Provinces are. Chaosfags so obsessed with reducing everything to the four basic gods? It limits the whole Concept of Chaos and the Immaterium. If you ask me Chaos, and the whole setting would profit from a decentralisation of "Chaos". Everything being aspects of the same 4 gods is bullshit and limits everything, What would work is you have the 4 gods being the most powerful among Chaos Entities, but there being a myriad of gods and entities who make up the majority of Chaos, but are individually weaker than the big four.

This way all the minor Chaos Gods suddenly make sense, and you could also have Order Gods in the Warp being worshipped by Mortals make sense. I just don't get why you would limit yourself in such an unecessary and plain pointless way as saying "there's only 4 Chaos Gods and everyone else is an apsect of them, even other gods lol". I am not opposed to the idea of chaos, but I am opposed to the idea of chaos the way it is represented in 8th ed, End Times and AoS.

In my opinion a Warp filled to the brim with all kinds of Demons and beings of a myriad different colours and Gods is more fitting to the concept than the Quarter Divide.

Also going the "Slaanesh is the first to slurp every soul" is also kinda lame, have there be a constant contest for the mortal souls in the warp, with every god trying to get at as many as possible, constantly warring on each other, alliances forming and breaking, backstabbing, killing and merging.

True Chaos, not an "Evil Order" as Chaos is presented most of the Time. Because as it stands even Christian Hell has more variety than Chaos.

>>53038302
>e Moorcock's Gods of Law then they'd be no storybreakers at all, seeing as they don't do jack shit, because "muh Balance" even when Chaos is fucking winning. they only show up to give quests, verbal thanks and take credit.
It depends on what books you're reading.

His latter output does go into the more detailed effects of Law gone to shit.

The Singularity is a fascinating concept of authority gone mad. Oh, and speaking of that, turns out that within the canon, the Lost Gods of Corum are renegade Lords of Law.

>>53060596
What you're saying held true in the earlier editions of WHFB and 40K, and in the earlier RPGS, but sadly GW simplified everything in the later editions. In the Slaves to Darkness and Realms of Chaos books there were even tables for rolling your own minor Chaos God and associated daemons.

>>53060788
yeah, I want that version back. It's better.

>>53060404
Not him, but human slaves for skaven rarely survive. Rats are generally hardy creatures and eating refuse while living in disease is normal for them. They also devoured anything.
Imagine being dragged away by creatures who burst out of your toilet into the depths of the earth, to an unholy breeding ground of countless abominations, having maggot ridden 'food' thrown at you and the countless other starving humans (to which they throw enough to feed 4 out of the 40 of you). Then you see the guards exchanging these green little coins, and one of them slinks in and starts to gnaw your fingers off. Maybe one a day. Maybe your neighbors kideny is missing when you wake up. And finally, when they pull you out of the hole and bring you topside for the first time in days, you see the jezzels lined up for practice. They take out your arms, so that in a week, you can still run. Or be flayed and have your skin attached to something in the he'll pit. Who knows. Box of chocolates, ect.

From what I've read, its the madness that gets you before you do anything meaningful. Labor is the skaven slave duty. Those they can produce fast.

>>53060902
I agree, that's why I play 3rd ed Fantasy and the early supplements for WHFRP. It's still there if that's how you like it.

>You will never be in an arranged marriage to a qt druchii princess who starts by hating you but learns to admire you (but still outwardly hates you)

>>53059935
Tileans joined the crusade against Araby and were the first ones to actually beat the Arabians when up until this point they seemed unstoppable. At least a few kingdoms and mercenary bands would join in a crusade against a vampiric empire.

But the most likely result is the Tomb Kings fuck up vlads forces in short order

>>53048520
I lend my calcium to thee, brave Skelly!

>>53048520
>I lend my calcium to thee, brave Skelly!

>>53048520
I lend my calcium to thee, brave Skelly!

>>53059537

She's just an Elf princess or a noble. They can have any weapon they choose. She'll probably be a generic lord choice to lead armies in TW:W, VC had generic female vampires.

Good God Vermintide is on Steam sale.

Do you have to arrange your infantry units in 5 or 10 columns like listed in the rulebook or can you do 6, 7, 8, etc columns?

>>53062603

5 is the minimum for most units and 10 is the maximum frontage. You can have anything in between but remember when they're in 10 long horde formation they get to attack with an extra rank, hence why most units are either set up like this or in 5's to maximise ranks and steadfast. There are some notable exceptions, like many of the High Elf and Chaos units who are most effective in 7x3 and 6x3.

>>53062698
I'm just learning how to play and messing around with a friend so I'm sure I'm being suboptimal but I've got two hordes of 30 Ungors and a unit of 40 Bestigors that I'm trying to decide if I should use it as a horde or not.

>>53062796

It's rarely a straightforward answer, some units it comes down to personal preference and other units that look awful on paper can do some real damage when they have 30 or 40 attacks.

I'm not very familiar with BM so this may be of some use to you.

http://www.librarium-online.com/forums/beastmen/219165-8e-beastmen-handbook.html

Having said that, if you're both starting out sometimes it's fun to go in blind and learn for yourself.

>>53062843
we're just planning on playing using roll20 online to get a feel for the game. sucks that a lot of the models have been discontinued because age of shitmar looks awful.

>>53062873

Beastmen got off pretty lightly in AoS, I think everything bar their special characters are still available.

>>53062940
i think razorgors are gone. i noticed most of the models were still available for sale but i'm hesitant to get into it financially since there's a lack of official support for 8th ed

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>>53062979

They moved Razorgors to the 'monsters of chaos' section, along with a few other BM special and rare.

I can understand that it's totally dependent on your local scene, if people don't play now they're unlikely to pick up an unsupported game in the future.

But you can use the models for any game really, here's a set of skirmish rules that you can play with like 1 or 2 boxes of guys.

>>53059673
guns are fairly easily accessable in WHFB no?

Like the empire's green troopes tend to have them no?

>>53063710
Guns cost a lot of money. A pistol is 200 gc according to wfrp 2e.

>>53063710
>Like the empire's green troopes tend to have them no?
Owning and having are two different things. The troops HAVE those guns because the state owns them and lets them use them. The imperial captain OWNs his gun because he paid for it in case he needed to shoot a charging minotaur.

How do I mitigate Tzeench's Curse?

>Warhammer is not officially supported anymore
>people still bother with the 8th edition

Why would you keep playing a bad edition after it's been abandoned by GW? If you really wanna play the 8th, just play the 9th.

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>>53066671

>>53067015
The 8th edition is shit though.

>>53067063
Lots of systems are being played now. It's not just a matter of 8th or 9th.

>>53063710

That is military equipment paid for by the province, privately owned guns seem to be pretty expensive as most hunting is done with bows.

>>53066671

Some people like the familiarity.

Anyway, a bad wargame in good company is always better then a good wargame in bad company. If you have a close group who can moderate themselves 8th edition is absolutely fine.

>>53067063
Some people tell me 6th is shit, I still prefer it and play it. Now stop being a bitch, we all have a common enemy elsewhere and no reason to squabble over who is playing TRUE warhammer.

>>53067607
No it's not, it's a game of huge infantry blocks moving towards each other and throwing bucketfuls of dice in close combat until no models are left because morale and movement don't matter at all in the 8th edition.

>>53067946

t. a man who has never played 8th edition and gets all his information from memes

Yeah sure... I believe you.

>>53067946
>morale and movement don't matter at all in 8th edition

lol

*charges your rear for at least +3 combat resolution and potential wounds*

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>>53067946
>>53069211

*Danse Macabre's into your rear arc with a 400 point blender vamp*

Nottin' peysonal scrub

>>53067946
Morale and movement do matter.

The problem is horde+magic+artillery.

>>53056481
Fucking CA catering to the SJW'S. She should be in a breeding pit.

>>53059872
Honestly I kind of feel at a certain point most of the forces you list would roll with it. Simply because no one wants Chaos to win via implosion. Though the tomb kings would likely fuck up everyone in this situation.

>>53066052
I find binding a familiar works wonders. That or praying to Sigmar before tossing the dice.

>>53032421
>underrated
are you retarded?

>>53031855
Has the book MEGA been updated in a while?

>>53073341
Probably not. It apparently doesn't contain Storm of Magic, either. Anyone want to tackle that?

>>53069211
>spend 5 turns getting in position to charge rear
>shit charge roll
>sit behind the enemy block while he murders your frontline
Heh

>>53071903
She's Asur, not one of the Druchii rutting priestesses.

>>53061754
>offscreen faction was the one to beat another offscreen faction
still can't see how that's relevant to fluff

>>53062366
DLCs too?

40 Grave Guard with great weapons run as 10x4 horde: yes or strongly yes?

>>53059507

The screaming bell can allow a Vermin Lord from the warp to cast spells on enemy units, but that's about it

>>53067607

Alternatively, EU limitation for army composition really creates a balanced environment

We've been testing them for some months now and it really evens the playing field

>>53075074

Actually, no.

GG are a anvil, not an hammer. They have low numbers of attacks, that tend to hit and wound often, and decent defense. This means that you want them as deep as possible to break steadfast

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>have gargantuan Fantasy backlog
>got a 40k set with a bunch of stuff in it
fuck
help me the fuck out boys
I have so many elves and orcs already and now there's more bullshit to wade through
god I wish I was rich and could just commission paint jobs for most of em

>>53075143
Double yes

>>53067780
>8th
>True warhammer

for all intent and purpose the plit advancement in 8th army books are end times shit and thus a completely different, not cannon universe.

Nice try shill.

do elves build high ceilings and doorways or constantly carry their tall helms in their hands while indoors? or every house has a special ornate wardrobe/locker specifically for helms?

>>53075381
Good paint guides are literally free now, go and do a basecoat to get into it and start a wishlist instead of adding to your backlog.

>>53075476
i should try to do this
I probably should also get rid of some of the O&G battalions I have lying around to cut myself some slack

My main issue is with the Wood Elves because they have such busy fucking models on some of them and the older minis being sons of whores to assemble

Do aspen/silver/cold iron/garlic/running water/names of gods beside Sigmar work on WHFB vampires? Can older vampires shrug off sunlight?

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>>53075747
There's a whole book on vamps for WFRP2, senpai.

>>53075842
>tennis courts
WHAT? WHFB people play tennis? VAMPIRES play tennis? what is this? Twilight?

>>53075747
There are a further two pages on weaknesses - garlic is a meme they find amusing for example, but witchbane hurts a bit. Mirrors, running water, signs of Gods all help.

>>53075889
Tennis is a very old game m8

>>53075907
but it's ain't got no place in a grim world like WHFB!

>>53075933
Nuance, it has a perfectly fine place in WFRP.


GRIM GRIM GRIM GRIM DARK DARK GRIM belongs in memes and Warhammer 40k (and even then it shouldn't be in 40k rpg games all the damn time)

Decadent nobility while the peasants starve or work hard also serves perfectly well as a part of the GRIM DARK! you seem to crave.

>>53075889
They also had football before it was separated into spin-off.

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What stats and rules could it have?

>>53076423
doomwheel without zappers basically

>>53076444
but doomwheel's too big, no? this looks like 25mm base max

>>53076455
smaller doomwheel that does d3 s4 impacts without zappers

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>>53075449
yes

how do you feel about homebrews? is it okay to use a homebrew unit or two, as long as they don't fix an armies' intended weakness, ain't wreck balance and probably are tad underpowered/overpriced on purpose?
is it okay to convert actual minis for homebrew units, wasting precious bits and models?

>>53077126
If you actually had a painted model for it and the rules are halfway reasonable and you can't just use rules of anither unit for it, I'd be okay with it. For example, if you'd want to do elves with blackpowder or have lizard cavalry for empire or stuff like that would be totally fine. Most homebrews you see are special snowflake elite units or heroes that surpass bloodknights, swordmasters or chaos lords and have cringey fluff...

>>53075143
Wow, 30 S6 attacks! That's so epic and awesome! I love the 8th edition!

>>53077555
I sense sarcasm?

Also yes, 30 S6 attacks ARE awesome, especially when they can take a punch in return too

>>53075842
>female witch hunter

Is this fanmade or were Black Industries this clueless?

Know why there's no female dwarfs?

Dwarfs are fungi, being subspieces of greenskins
That's why they fight all the time. Greenskins try to extermiante their not-green cousins to keep the race pure, and dwarfs just try to kill everyone who knows the truth.

Wazzok really means "was orc" - reminder of the dwarfs' exile from greenskin race for paleness and beardiness. Before you ignore this, look at dwarf language and see how similar it is to English (az = ax, elgi = elf, etc.)

>>53077694
Shut up Dawi, we know that your wife has ten other husbands.

>>53077593
The Empire doesn't have male only careers.

>>53077720
name one female Emperor, that is Empress

>>53077730
Magritta of Marienburg
Ottilia I

>>53077730
Ottilia I.

>>53077730
Emperor is not a playable career.

>>53077770
not my fault your Dung Collector never lasted long enough to advance ALL the way up

>>53077770
Its also a fucking monumental step up from Random Witch Hunter shooting shit in a dark tunnel to nominated ruler of a third of the known world.

>>53075842
>Sylvania has the highest annual rainfall of any province of the Empire

That must suck - especially when they're right near the mountains, and they've got such huge structures that force falling water to concentrate in certain areas. They'll probably have to deal with a ton of structural instability and floods.

>>53077997
good thing they magic

>>53077997
It's probably summoned by vampires so the clouds block the sun.

Do elves use dakka?
And why not?

>>53078169
No

Because they don't want to get dirty or break a nail

>>53078169
Only reliable guns are made by dwarfs, human made tend to explode.

>>53078169
Wrong general.

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Looking for some feedback for an upcoming tournament. What do you think of my list? Any suggestions, tips or tricks are highly welcomed!


[b]++ Standard (Warriors of Chaos - Army Book (2013-4) -V8.8.0.) [1497pts] ++[/b]

[b]+ Uncategorised +[/b]

[b]- Army Size:[/b] Army (0-2999 points)

[b]+ Lords +[/b]

[b]Chaos Sorcerer Lord [395pts]:[/b] Lore of Nurgle, Mark of Nurgle, Wizard Level 4
. Chaos Mutations & Powers: Unholy Strike
. Magic Items: BRB - Enchanted Shield, BRB - Sword of Striking, BRB - Talisman of Preservation, BRB - The Other Trickster's Shard

[b]+ Heroes +[/b]

[b]Exalted Hero [198pts]:[/b] Battle Standard Bearer, Mark of Nurgle, Shield
. Magic Items: AB - Chalice of Chaos, AB - Filth Mace, BRB - Dragonhelm

[b]+ Core +[/b]

[b]Chaos Warhounds [30pts]:[/b] 5x Chaos Warhound

[b]Chaos Warriors [334pts]:[/b] Champion, Musician, Standard Bearer
. 16x Chaos Warrior: 16x Halberds, 16x Mark of Nurgle

[b]Chaos Warriors [285pts]:[/b] Champion, Musician, Standard Bearer
. 15x Chaos Warrior: 15x Mark of Nurgle, 15x Shields

[b]+ Special +[/b]

[b]Chaos Knights [255pts]:[/b] Champion, Musician, Standard Bearer
. 5x Chaos Knight: 5x Ensorcelled weapons, 5x Mark of Nurgle

[b]++ Total: [1497pts] ++[/b]

The chars would be placed inside the halberd-armed unit.

>>53077720
It's wrong then.

>>53078956
I'm also considering running this army-list:

[b]++ Standard (Warriors of Chaos - Army Book (2013-4) -V8.8.0.) [1497pts] ++[/b]

[b]+ Uncategorised +[/b]

[b]- Army Size:[/b] Army (0-2999 points)

[b]+ Lords +[/b]

[b]Daemon Prince [565pts]:[/b] Chaos armour, Daemon of Nurgle, Daemonic Flight, Lore of Death, Wizard Level 4
. Chaos Mutations & Powers: Chaos Familiar, Flaming Breath, Nurgle's Rot, Scaled Skin, Soul Feeder
. Magic Items: BRB - Charmed Shield, BRB - Dragonbane Gem, BRB - Sword of Striking

[b]+ Core +[/b]

[b]Chaos Warhounds [30pts]:[/b] 5x Chaos Warhound

[b]Chaos Warriors [377pts][/b]
. Champion
. 18x Chaos Warrior: 18x Halberds, 18x Mark of Nurgle
. Musician
. Standard Bearer: BRB - Gleaming Pennant

[b]+ Special +[/b]

[b]Chaos Ogres [300pts]:[/b] Champion, Musician, Standard Bearer
. 6x Chaos Ogre: 6x Great weapons, 6x Mark of Nurgle

[b]+ Rare +[/b]

[b]Slaughterbrute [225pts]:[/b] Extra Claws

[b]++ Total: [1497pts] ++[/b]

>>53078896
THEY

>>53073341
>>53073430

I don't know who has access to it, I'm thinking of making another MEGA with all the rulebooks and army books for fantasy to stop what happened to the novels happening again, ie. scannon left, it went down and we had nothing.

There is a scan of SoM floating around but it's very low resolution.

>>53075143

Yes and Banner of Barrows.

>>53075747
>Can older vampires shrug off sunlight?

Going by Nights dark masters any vampire with defy the dawn can pretty easily walk around sunlight with a willpower test. While if they have it twice they could like up and sunbathe with no issues.

Garlic on the other hand doesn't do shit and running water is a death sentence but weaknesses aren't always stable. So some vampires are weak to different things. So pretty much when vampire hunting make sure you confirm what they are weak against.

>>53077126
Depends on how you want to do it to be honest. I normally would allow homebrew as long as the rules seem reasonable for the price. Like if someone wants to make their own personal big bad chaos lord or whatever and gives it powerful abilities that also cost a fucking lot of points I wouldn't mind here.

On the other hand I would if they had stronger then normal abilities but the cost is far lesser then it should be then I would mind.

>>53073341
>>53073430
>>53079528

Just to add to this, I've already compiled a list of missing army books. It's pretty short.

Warhammer Chronicles of War (4th ed.)
Warhammer Siege (5th ed.)
Warhammer Armies: Realm of Chaos (5th ed.)
Storm of Magic

>>53075747
A vampire who eats the heart of a dragon loses all their weaknesses. Few vampires know this, and attribute it to general badassery.

Otherwise yeah, the older they are the better they can resist. But even Vlad and Nef avoid daytime.

All holy emblems work. Its why Dwarfs are effective Witch Hunters, they all carry emblems of the ancestor gods.

>>53079949
>A vampire who eats the heart of a dragon loses all their weaknesses.

If I remember right it's closer to it nulls the vampires basic need for blood. But I'm pretty sure it doesn't completely null weaknesses to things like running water or things caused by the curse of Nagash. For some reason or another.

>>53079949
>>53080046
yeah, having drunken Dragon Blood Vampires lose the need to feed on Human Blood, most likely because Dragons are so long lived, that their potent Blood can sustain a Vampire for ages.

This kind of makes me depressed that they got rid of Zacharias The Everliving. He had some pretty cool fluff.

>>53080046
>>53080136
It nulls weakness to the sun too.
>>53080461
GW spent a lot of time making Necrarchs seem important then doing absolutely nothing for them. They were basically the Von Carsteins of 5e.

>>53079608
Realm of Chaos is online somewhere, I have downloaded it.

name one thing wrong with horde

(you cant)

How do I roleplay a dwarf runesmith?

>>53080795
Do you know how to roleplay a dwarf?

>>53080839
Not really.

>>53080795
You play a nerd who is weab about his own culture. Or a religious nerd who collects inspirational quotes in a language nobody else speaks. Or a Jewish wizard.

Wait, fuck, those are all the same thing.

Can characters be in any rank in 8th edition? Also does your BSB have to be in the front rank like regular standard bearers?

>>53080880
Bunch of old quotes I make up about how dwarves are so much cooler than all those other lame races?

Alright, easy enough.

>>53080876
Staunch traditionalist. Tends to ramble on about things. Casually insults others and their peoples and crudely jokes about things, but cannot take an insult or joke at his or his people's own expense. Quick to throw a punch. Has seen some serious shit but hides the pain for the most part. Bitter about shit that happened a totally different way than he remembers it generations ago.

So basically play a semi-drunk old WW2 veteran that's attention starved.

>>53080795
>>53080876
Then play as an artisan who see his work as a religious duty and something more. A Runesmith craves perfection in everything he does and does not allow failure or sloppiness in himself or others.
He's also a dwarf, so he dismisses every other race's craftmanship, especially regarding metal and stoneworking.

Plus he doesn't see runes as magic, and would probably get very offended if someone compared him to a wizard, because the winds of magic are dangerous and umpredictable, and other races are fools to meddle with them in a way that doesn't allow to have total control on them

He's also extremely secretive about his art, and would not allow a non-dwarf to watch him while making a rune

>>53080942
Dwarf language and art is both magic and holy, and Runesmiths are the guys who dedicate their lives to it.

So words, fonts, ink, paper, doodles, and quotes are capable of defying the laws of reality if done right. They are encouraged to always advance their craft while revering the past great works with utmost respect.

So these guys are major bookworms and nerds. Secret Of Kells style for some, authors for others, kabbalists sometimes, but most have put in a lot of time as scribes and librarians.

>>53080976
Would a rune smith put temporary runes on his fellow adventure's gear? Or is that not allowed due to the secretive nature of their craft?

>>53080887
Characters need to be in the front rank if there is room for them there (i.e it isn't already filled by other chars and/or banner bearer, musician and/or champion).

>>53059507
>>53059587
Actually excluding Micliagio I'm pretty sure skaven keep themselves on the DL in most of the Tiliean states, as they do in the empire

Consider the decade of peace and prosperity Tobarro had when they made a pig thier prince, litterally bait for skaven assasination

>>53081026
Runesmithing is hard, time-intensive, and very important.

Actual magic runes are a big deal.
But all Runesmiths are scribes, and all Dwarf script is magic.

So anything that would give a modifier? Not likely unless a very close friend or some kind of major respect has developed. Think of Celebrimbor and Narvi.

But putting a luck charm, something that would have a minor effect and is more good luck charm than spell, would be something they would do for a friend. Dwarfs dislike working on things mot lasting, which is why they use metal instead of wood whenever possible, but some are metropolitan enough, especially Imperial Dwarfs, to recognize an Empireman may just need a cape or an Elf a bit of wood.

There's a limit to how much magical runework can go into one thing though. An emblem or few sentences is about all they'd probably do. Anything else would just be decoration.

>>53080887
Characters need to be in the front row.
If there isn't room because the first rank is already full of characters, they can be placed in the second rank etc.
the BSB needs to be in the front rank if there is room because he is just another character and treated as such in this regard

>>53080887
>>53081185
there are exceptions, like the slann that can be placed in a rank further back

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>>53078896
Asrai a best
eat shit mountain manlets
>mfw 30+ poisoned AP arrows and 10+ armour ignoring shots a turn

>>53080628
Necrarchs are basically Vampire nerds

>I could conquer the world with my absolute power but I'm busy moooooom
>I've got 'research' to do in my tower
>pass the virgin cheeto's Igor

>>53081239
What a nice dry forest you have there Elf.

>>53081130
I'll keep that in mind. Perhaps just making best crafted gear for my friends.

>>53081239
You misspelled "Asur"

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>>53081322
that's right

>>53081273
Runesmiths are not smiths remember. They improve what others create using art and script, they don't usually create the item in the first place unless its something simple like an axe or sword. They take a lot of time to make something too since it has to be done ritually according to the lunar cycles and numerical days. Ghal Maraz and the Runeswords were made by Runesmiths, but were existing things given as gifts, not forged for men.

For example a Runesmith would probably inscribe a compliment to humans on his Empire friend's helmet or gild the face of Valaya on an Elf's shield rather than create a whole new item for them. If they were part of a band, like Vermintide if Bardin was a Runesmith, he'd probably emboss the name of a great Dwarf marksman on Kerillian's cape or stitch an insult to Skaven on Salty's hat.

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>>53082309

people say WHFRPG 2e is the best Fantasy RPG out there. I would like to give it a try. Any recommendations for a starting adventure ? I tried 3e and the starting adventure from the starting box. Man.... 3e is so baaad...combats are just a long slow slog with cards and special dice and nothing dies and ...

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>>53032798
>Google searched the image as I've failed to remember the exact name of this old Valten mini.
>Google: Did you mean: stormcast eternals no helmet

This is how people get turned into worshipping Khorne.

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>>53032798
That mini would make a fine Lord of Tzeentch with a headswap and weapon switch.

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>>53033342
>>53033466
I would've like to see both of those, especially Fimir.

I'd myself would've loved to see Kingdoms of Ind as a fantastical take on india with a heavy focus on mercenaries and an upper eschelon composed of various Warrior castes.
Large blocks of barely clothed human longbowmen and spearmen would make up the core while special could be composed of revered members of the various warrior-castes such as Lionmen covered in chainmail, nimble javelin-throwing monkeymen and Mercenary Ogres. Rare could contain such lovely things as War Elephants decked out in the most flamboyant attire.

>>53033902
Would you say that Tamurkhan is worth the read for a Nurgle-enthusiast?

>>53081244
Necrarchs are plotting to kill everyone all the time.

>>53083387
Which they never do.

>>53083387
So exactly like nerds then

Black trenchcoat wearing edgy teens who only occasionally bother to follow through with their plans

Can Skaven ever be turned/corrupted to other Chaos Gods?

>>53033834
>retard saved a thumbnail