Realism/semi-realism art thread

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I'll dump some. These are my favorite threads.

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>>53026926

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>>53026880
I somehow expected more from a king that wearing his flag

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>>53027193

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>>53027113
I would expect him to finish a crusade desu

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>>53027207
Almost done

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>>53027251

>>53026926

>These are my favorite threads.

Realistic arms/attire >>>>>>>> LE EBIN WYKKED FANTASY XDD!!

>reddi/tg/ capable of having an art thread thats not 90% tumblr feminists in armor

i didnt think such a thing was possible any more

>>53027296
gr8 b8

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>>53027296
I wish there was more of it in the drawthreads because it would give me more practice.

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>>53025242
>ranger, warrior, mage

>>53027296
I hate bulky shit with spikes everywhere for no apparent reason. Same with swords

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Anybody else following Battle of the Nations?

I think Ukraine's 21 vs. 21 team just beat Russia for the championship for the first time in 8 years. Which is amazing, since nobody beats Russia usually.

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>>53027113
He wouldn't even be doing that. When surcoats become popular in the early 13th century, they were one-color garments (rarely banded or halved) in a few stock colors (usually red or blue) and if the wearer did have heraldry on his shield or his mount's caparison the surcoat would always contrast that. So Philip would most likely be rocking a red or maybe green surcoat. However by the 14th century heraldry was applied to surcoats so the OP image is good on that front.

Aside from and the artist going a bit overboard with the strap/belt studs the rest of the image the most autistic scrutiny (including some nice details that are often overlooked) if we assume it represents the last 15 years or so of his life.

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I miss Rome but not the cunt I went there with

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>>53027572

>>53027296
this unironically

>>53027278
Search for the Morion, between 1500 to 1600.

What made the helmets become like that? Was it firearms or what? Isn't it too early for mass produced firearms?

>>53027655
From what my fencing teacher told me about them, it was pikes. Apparently that's a good shape for your common pikeman in a block if someone slips (or dies) and drops a pike on your head.

>>53027314
Well the keyword in the OP was 'realistic'

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>>53027599

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>>53027701
The curved shape of the helmet helped mitigate "friendly fire" from falling pikes? That's pretty interesting, and also weird.

>>53027701
>>53027655
I heard the crest would deflect stones and other things being dropped on your head, useful if climbing up a siege ladder or being pelted by stones from the walls.

I would really appreciate similar types of art for non-european, or at least not ancient greece/rome/medieval/renaissaince costumes and equipment. Shit like this for Chinese, Indian, Middle-Eastern, South/Mezo American, Scythian, Cretian, Mezopotamian cultures would be amazing.

I'm working on world-building that is fairly anachronistic settings most heavily inspired by cultures and environments of Central Asia and Middle East, but with some Byzantine, Ancient Mezopotamian and South American influences, and coming across good reference materials is a bitch.

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>>53027836
I have some Assyrian stuff from Osprey.

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>>53027836
Not art but the Chinese looked great back in their golden age of warfare.

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>>53027886

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>>53027905

>>53027897
>all black and brown
>no colors anywhere

>realistic

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>>53027905
>>53027886
Much appreciated. Seriously, thanks for taking the time off to post this stuff.

>>53027897
Yeah.
I tend to draw inspiration from existing fiction inspired by the subject matter (Central Asia seems to be a surprisingly popular subject matter in Manga, oddly enough), but the reality is that fiction is never stranger or more interesting than the real world, and classic or didactic art is generally much more inspiring than stuff produced for genre fiction.
So I'm always grateful for any either historical reconstructions, photos, or works of classic art that display more oriental and exotic cultures.

Does not even have to be war-oriented. Anything displaying humans, costumes, places to live in, every day situations: I love all that shit.

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>>53027974

>>53027836
Mesopotamian is written with an s, senpai.

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>>53028007

>>53027940
Not that I'm complaining or anything, but did Assyrians really ride horseback, with saddle or saddle-like equipment?
I might be entirely and utterly wrong here, but I thought that stuff was only popularized by Scythians and really gained a place in warfare around 400 B.C.-ish, and that before, war-chariots were used almost exclusively.

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>>53028028

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>>53028035

Oldest DEPICTIONS of cavalry are Assyrian from around 700-800 BC. It probably predated that by a little bit.

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>>53028057

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Artesia has some realistic gear!

>>53027251
>"I need a one-handed weapon that can do cutting and thrusting well."
"Alright my lord. Here's a nice sword made by our best blacksmith."
>"What? No! No, fuck that shit. Give me an axe with a spear coming out of it."

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>>53027981
cont.

>>53028035
I've got the book open and according to Osprey:

"Cavalry first served in the Assyrian army under Tukulti-Ninurta III. Those illustrated date from the reign of Ashurnasirpal, and show the cavalry still employed the 'donkey seat' when riding the horse. Tactical employment of this period shows how, by riding in pairs, they were envisaged as 'charioteers without their chariot.'

Hope this helps.

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>>53028151
Also there are fucking ghouls in full armour cutting through plate like it's tin.

Because fuck armour when you have enchanted swords.

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>>53028197
And sometimes the gods of war show up.

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>>53028091

>>53027985
>Anything displaying humans, costumes, places to live in, every day situations
You should take a look at the works of the orientalists of the 19th and 20th centuries

>>53028172
Weren't they really clumsy, though?

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>>53028258
fuck off please

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>>53028248
>You should take a look at the works of the orientalists of the 19th and 20th centuries
I already did take a few looks, but my research has not been in any way exhaustive. This as well as quite a lot of anthropological photography and first-half-of-20th century traveler journals and photocollections helped me a lot in modeling my ideas for at least some of the cultures and their appearances.

Once again, thanks for all the materials and suggestions, though.

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>>53028266
Why

>>53028305
because youre shitposting. go post in a pathfinder thread or something if that's the only shit you have

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>>53028258
>>53028305

Not him but stop please. Off topic, and you've posted 7 images of it insofar.

>>53028248
I wouldn't want to be cavalry at any point pre-stirrups honestly. Most of what I see shows them as archers rather than actually lancing, though, so it'd probably somewhat better than infantry work.

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>>53028305

>>53028353
fuck off autist

>>53028340
>>53028339
OP said Semi-Realistic, well Artesia has Realistic as fuck armour and some magic, so that's semi-realistic at worst.

>>53028371
just report and ignore him

>>53028380
>so that's semi-realistic at worst.
Fucking ahem
>>53028228

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>>53028248

>>53028299
Yeah there were also the ethnographics. I also have some bizantine stuff, will be posting in a moment

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>>53028467

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>>53028448
And yet it's a more realistic looking battlefield than Hollywood ever managed to come up with.

>>53028497
>Said the tumblrite ladyknight poster.

Eat shit, you know nothing of movies.

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>>53028508
>There is a lady in armour so he must be a leftist-SJW-Cuckmeister-Tumblrite

I don't see you posting anything worthwhile when critiqueing me buddy.

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>>53028547

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>>53028491
I love this one. Lamellar is so sexy

>>53028508
just fucking report him and his posts will go away.

hes literally only in the thread to post niggers and women>>53028513

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>>53028567

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>>53028547
I've posted half the images in this thread you fat twat

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>>53028579
The Rus/Novgorod are so underrepresented it's not even funny

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>>53028635
I mean they had a pretty big lead

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>>53028650

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>>53028650
Yes it's everyone else's fault you waste our images and can't stay on topic.

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>>53028678
this is a woman btw plz don't be triggered

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>>53028691
You have a pretty hard time understanding the fact that Semi-realistic does not mean 100% realistic don't you

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>>53028467
>Yeah there were also the ethnographics
These can be invaluable as a source of inspiration. It's odd how actually dull and unimaginative a lot of fantasy art feels compared to reality. I'll be monitoring the thread, though I do have to get some sleep. Hope I'll find the thread still alive in the morning.

>>53028722
We've already been over the fact that you wasted 7 images posting high fantasy shit.

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>>53028579

>>53028635
True

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>>53028722

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>>53028736
Very Realistic high fantasy shit though.

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>>53028847

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>>53028847
Tfw living Schizophrenia

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>>53028736
Also nobody seemed to have a problem with Dark Souls and Warhammer being posted in the first ten posts.

But women in armour, no anon can't handle that at all.

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>>53028910

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>>53028761
Using the Varagians to transition from the rus to the byzantine

>>53028728
Ikr, that's true even for the european cultures, we've become so used to the stale tolkish/D&D formula that even western stuff looks really out there when it comes to fantasy

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>>53028967

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>>53028947
>we've become so used to the stale tolkish/D&D formula that even western stuff looks really out there when it comes to fantasy
That's a pretty big problem in the entertainment industry anyways nowadays. People are too afraid to show new/unknown stuff.

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>>53028990

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>>53028910
>Also nobody seemed to have a problem with Dark Souls and Warhammer being posted in the first ten posts.
Maybe because they're more realistic

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>>53028967
Can't think of the name Abydos without thinking of Stargate SG1.

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>>53029022
>Giants are more realistic then women in armour

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>>53028827

>>53029022
Son, you are posting pictures of wrestling in tin-cans. Battle of the nations isn't half as realistic as you believe it is.

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>>53029094

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>>53029013

>>53029004
Real shame

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>>53029117

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>>53029058
Yes

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>>53029145

>>53028305
Keep going, don't mind the autists

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>>53029160
Nice contribution to the board git

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>>53029137

>>53029028
Never watched it

>>53029096
All fighting comes down to wrestling scrub

>>53028371
>t. Autist

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>>53027897
>Not art but the Chinese looked great back in their golden age of warfare.
Chinese dramas are notorious for fudging historicity,that's not even close to what was worn during the time period.

https://warosu.org/tg/thread/27560731#p27560731

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>>53029200
>git
Sick burn

>>53028582
>>>/pol/

Your containment board is that way my friend

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>>53029193
>>53029200

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>>53029203
The Byzantium were effay as fuck

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>>53029240

your containment board is tumblr

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>>53029246

>>53029096
Nor is a good chunk of the art posted in the thread, including the Osprey stuff.

BOTN is not my deal, but it's no less realistic than something like this >>53028990. It does say semi-realism in the title so we should let live as long as we have salt handy for everything posted.

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>>53029178

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>>53029206
Look at all this wrestling

>>53029234
It's the simple things that help the most

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>>53029284
Not sure how realistic or accurate this one is

>>53029265
No my containment board is /tg/.

Get your chocolate out of my peanut butter wehraboo

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>>53029296
Context is simple, autist.

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>>53029307
Reminds me of the Power Rangers Villains desu

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>>53029337
Wrestling stopped being the base in all warfare the moment we invented the pointy stick.

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>>53029411

>>53029362
this is incorrect. it is relevant in urban warfare where you may get jumped by some sandperson while doing room sweeps

its also extremely relevant to cops and guards

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>>53029004
>. People are too afraid to show new/unknown stuff.
I honestly think the problem is not in the fact that they are afraid of visiting unknown stuff, as being the problem of encycled genre clichés, which is to say: a lot of fantasy is based on existing fantasy and fantasy art, and not enough is actually trying to drive inspiration from the original, real world stuff (history, mythology, art, folklore) where fantasy started. I remember how the TW games made everybody shit their pants, despite it being as generic european medieval fantasy as it gets, simply by the virtue of TW artists actually researching actual historical costumes, architecture, as well as reading folklore stories, fairytales, myths and classic literature for inspiration.

Fantasy works best when its a reflection/re-interpretation of reality. The more it becomes a thing sui generis, the more fantasy is fueled by other fantasy, the more generic, impersonal and eventually dull it becomes, I belive.
It's also true that we tend to ignore amazing stuff like Middle-Eastern or Asian and Indian sources. But honestly, its hard for me to find even medieval-europe-tolkien-based fantasy that would be actually interesting.

Tolkien himself did so great because he worked with old Scandinavian and Germanic mythology, history and folklore. His stuff was rooted in the complexity and variety of real world. Miyazaki, who sadly did not do enough fantasy world-building, did something very similar with Mongolian, Tibetian and central Asian cultures and legacy.

When you start making fantasy based on other fantasy works which are based on something that is based on Tolkien, its where things start to fall apart.

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>>53029473
>its also extremely relevant to cops and guards
Not warfare

Wrestling is no more than a thing that's useful in some niche situations.

>>53029307

>>53029285
What's wrong with the varagian I posted?

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>>53029540
Context, autist, the original post says fighting, and since it's referencing BOTN, it's melee.

And just about every reenactor that I've talked to explains historical melee in terms of wrestling.

The same goes for cops who have to learn close quarters fighting.

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>>53029568
fuck

>>53029571
>tfw ill never get to btfo a lady in front of all my knight bros who cant see shes a lady and get heeps of honor

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>>53029656

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>>53029640
>historical melee in terms of wrestling.
Yeah because they can't kill each other, or seriously maim them.

>The same goes for cops who have to learn close quarters fighting.
Same thing, when the cops show up to a real fight they make sure they have some nightsticks and some teargas.

>>53029225
This. This is a fucking gold-mine. Thank you.

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>>53029732

>>53029698
breh

>>53029750
>fighting is just about killing/maiming people
>nobody ever died in wrestling
>serious books on fighting, and killing people, from the medieval era onward don't have enormous chapters on wrestling
people who've never opened a history book actually think like this

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>>53029765

>>53029835
that doggo looks more noble than those brown savages

>>53029835
So did the conquistadors use full plate when they marched on the Incans and Aztecs?

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>>53029835

>>53029908
I don't think so. I think that mounted dude is just in full plate to show the technological differences

>>53029759
Here's the second part. Some of the later stuff such as the information on the Ming has problems once you examine the primary sources.
https://warosu.org/tg/thread/27574792#p27577251

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>>53030165

>>53028990
>>53029571

There are a number of things which all taken together make for a pretty bad representation of what a Varangian guardsman would have looked like. The other Vang images also contain flaws, some pretty major (>>53028947 is just a barrage of wrong) but I chose this one as one of the worst. I only brought it up since it didn't seem fair that the BOTN guy was singled out for inaccuracy, as I'm sure no one wants an entire thread of me yelling that "your art is bad and you should feel bad".

In no particular order:
Helmet is plain fantasy, like a mash-up between a spectacle and Great Polish helmet. The seperate coif/aventail thing is also anachronistic.

Lamellar over mail: no evidence that the V. ever used it at all, least of all in combo with mail.

Sword in back-scabbard: utter fantasy. Handle is too long although that is perhaps a nitpick too far. Pommel looks to be a Type N which is mid 9thC compared to the sorta late 10th/early 11thC feel of the rest of the kit.

Shield: Ideally the rim would be sewn but there is a weak argument for nails instead. Those mushroom sized things are way too big and too few compared to historical shields even if pretend they are meant to be nails.

I have no clue what is going on with the hilt and sheath of the knife on the belt. It might be some Rus thing I've never seen but considering everything else I suspect not.

The axehead at least is a good depiction of a period type, although it's a dane-axe rather than a single-handed weapon which is implied by both the pose and short haft.

The leather vambrace is made up. As is the shiny golden dragon strapend, which is way too big anyway.

Finally I don't know where the stripy trouser thing came from, but I've never seen any evidence for it.

Some of those things may seem minor, but it's the sum total that makes it less than ideal.

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>>53030273
Yeah, now that you mentioned that one really does seem stupid, specially the sword in back and weird helmet. The knife on the belt is a rus thing, yes. And about the fancy clothing I just assumed it was because of the Byzantine.
And please, do tell how the other one is a "barrage of wrong" I don't know much about the varagians so that'll be good

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>>53030273
>>53030460
[desire to know more intensifies]

>>53028701
that's a handsome woman

>Image limit reached.
Damn

>>53030644
Indeed

>>53030460
Ok, if you really want me to. I really, really like vikings and knights- I have an interest in other periods and cultures but those are ones of I can quote the finds reports backwards. All that means is I can call out BS with confidence whereas I have no way of knowing if a Sassanid cataphract drawing is accurate despite how cool I think that period is. Vikings and especially Varangians are particularly prone to BS depictions so at some point I'm going to have to shut up or I'll be here all night.

I'd also like to know more about this Rus knife, as it doesn't really resemble anything found in the North Sea area.

>>53027314
And we were having nice thread without retarded shitposting then you came.
>>53027702
Women did fight in battles time to time, rarely yes but it did happen.

>>53031095
There's just never an instance where they're a first choice or they win or there's not gryphons gorgons minotaurs giants and things that are as fictitious as they are.

>>53031095
just further proof anti-pol is 10x worse than pol

>>53031095
Children fought in battles too but no neckbeards rush to their defense anytime someone suggests a 12-year-old might not be suited for warfare.

>>53030881
About the Rus knife it's just a variation of the seax, really, if you're referring to the round fancy grip it may be bs just like the sword from the back

>>53031373
What do you mean a 12-year-old might not be suited for warfare?

>>53031516
Up until now I'd never thought about how much feminism is just peter pan syndrome but upset about peter pan being male

>>53031271
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_ancient_warfare

Though a lot of recorded instances were of women as either being leaders, or one side is pressed to the point that women and children join in the defense

>>53031453
It was the handle that had me most intrigued, although the nodules on the centre of the sheath also caught my eye.

Also I'm typing up the checklist of errors in another tab. 1/3 three guys down so far..

>>53031271
>There's just never an instance where they're a first choice
>Who is Matilda of Canossa

Buddy...

>>53031695
Leader =/= fighter.

And I mentioned the pressing but at that point the battle is already lost you fucking tool.

>>53028624
Then do that and keep your retarded mouth closed.

>>53031768
We're at the image limit you fucking baby

>>53028947
I'm working off the assumption that as with most of the historical guard, these are Scandinavians rather than Rus (of which I know some but less detail). If something is actually Rus fashion that slipped me by then stop me as then I won't be wasting peoples time the next this image is posted.

3:Our standard bearer has a nice long-shafted handed axe, with which he needs two hands presumably keeping the standard aloft with a prehensile tail. That axehead in way resembling any remotely contemporary dane-axe, especially with the reverse pick.

The Type M sword is only 50 years out of date in 1020 so we will let that slide. The knife and sheath are both setting off alarm bells though my book on Byzantine swords (to cross-check the hilt on 1) is in the attic. Thursting the blade through the Birka-style pouch is just fucking stupid.

Helmet is an ok but not great spangenhelm but the aventail is wrong on two counts. Firstly the profile is that of a 14thC bascinet's aventail rather than a curtain only extending to the ears and not below the jawline. Second is that it is entirely latten/copper, where it was used goldy rings were a decorative trim only one or two rings deep.

Mail is good, the bright orange "Varangian Bra" is less good. Osprey cites a singe description which is not terribly conclusive although I hae been unable to trace the original. There is no evidence of the Varangians using splinted arm or leg protection.

Big poofy sleeves are totally wrong (shout if this is a secret Rus thing). The classic Viking baggy trousers have gone out of fashion by the 11thC.

>>53031731
Wow, your single example sure does disprove the entire length of recorded war

>>53031313
Said the smelly faggot
>>53031373
Well, a 12-year-old might be suited for for some jobs on the battlefield.
>>53031622
Maybe you should try the thinking a bit.
>>53031735
>I did not look at the link.
>>53031777
Then stop posting you stupid faggot.

>>53031973
pathetic.

>>53031999
No you

>>53027289
Awesome. That's dedication to the bit.

Is there any point continuing with the exploration of costume inaccuracies or are we about done with pretense of discussion?

>>53031973
WEW! holy shit lad you are right sad

>>53032116
Better than exploring biology inaccuracies.

>>53032116
Still about 90 posts away from autosage, might as well fill up the thread to make it archive

>>53027469
There's been a complaint. Last round was 22 vs 21 in Ukraine's favor. It could be a failure of the referees, communication, purposeful, etc.

Fucking sad, because Russia was winded, and Ukraine clearly won in round 2.

>>53032265
Christ, that's incompetent on the ref and marshall's parts. Russia definitely could have made up for that extra too, which I mean fuck, 22 v 22 would be fun as fuck to watch.

>>53028947

2: More bloody lamellar, even more because this is an Akolouthos (commander) so if any single V. could be in mail (instead of all of them) it should be him. The helm is clearly meant to be a gjermundbu spectacle helm but the eyes are 4 or 5 times the size they should be. Also more over-sized aventails and the white linen coif is a late 12thC fashion.

That axe is a decorated version of a period Wheeler Type II. Shame it's a carpenter's axe rather than a weapon. Shockingly the Type S sword is actually mostly correct except the fact that it is tiny.

I have no clue what is going on with the blue shoe coverings, the patterned trousers or the seriously snazzy cloak but am prepared to defer to a passing Byantine costume historian. I am very sceptical though.

Both 2 and 3's shield are the right shapes but are a pretty cartoony vision of gem-encrusted gear (gold-decorated swords very much yes, shields wit rubies the size of your eyeball not so much). Animal designs are really a thing yet, most have crosses or spirals etc.

1: Bolli's dress does mostly match his description in his saga which is nice. As with the dagger on 3, I'm pretty sure the hilt is wrong by a few centuries. Even if not, he'd be more likely to have a Frankish/Scandi-style sword (even the Byzants tended to use imitations thereof). Scabbards also tended to be plain and suspended on a seperate belt to the one holding the tunic up.

The green knotted cloth seems pretty random with no basis. Same as 3 flouncy trousers are out, especially in that crazy patterned fabric. I again have no clue about those white gaiters. Shield design is accurate to the saga, but that was written centuries later and conflicts with contemporary shield art trends in available sources so I suspect it was a later addition to the story.

It's not like everything is wrong, but you do have to go looking for the accurate stuff.

>>53032541
yeah but i bet you cant draw worth a shit and guess which guy gets picked to do a book like this

>>53032541
Thanks for taking the time to explain all that, fampai. I don't even remember where I found those images, but I'll keep them anyways, I use them for inspiration for fantasy afterall

>>53032872
Not him but I can draw and all I got for it was severe depression every time I open the drawthread to find a trove of mediocrity and no cool knights or warriors with lots of interesting armor and clothing.

>>53028228
How do you kill something so big?

>>53032984
*requests, the word requests should have been in there somewhere.

Because I used to take a lot of those

>>53032950
It's from the Osprey Varangian Guard book. About half of the rest of the images in the thread are Osprey scans from one issue or another. /hwg/ has links to a mega full of them in the OP. As history they are decidely mixed and the drawings are especially bad (even the writers have admitted that the artists have a loose connection to reality) but they are good forstealing costume ideas.

>>53032872
>>53032984
I am him, and you are right my doodling skills don't quite cut it.

Other anon, if you want to draw knights draw frickin knights and don't let shitty threads get you down. There are plenty of places to learn about the kit, and you can constantly improve as you learn more.

From one anon to another if we had a similar thread and someone said "I drew pic related, it's meant to be X, how can I improve" then I and others would post images/links and suggestions.

>>53029022
Women in armor are in both Warhammer and Dark Souls, dweeb.

>>53033569
Well obviously since they're fantasy.

>>53029765
>LIGHT cavalryman

Okey then.

>>53033746
Light is a relative term and primarily denotes role rather the amount of armour in absolute terms. In 15thC terms a horsemen in full armour but on a smaller, unbarded mount was indeed light cavalry.

Things get screwy when you compare across cultures and eras. That Italian light cavalryman is wearing more armour than a Norman knight but also an 18thC cuirassier (breastplate and helmet and other types of heavy cav would not even wear that).

>>53033593
Obviously you are stupid

>>53029750
I'm posting just to laugh at you
ha

>>53034549
Sorry your fetish is lame

>>53028197
>cutting through plate and mail armour with just a sword
please tell me he's magical

>>53035988
Sorry your post is retarded.

>>53036374
it's ok fatty

>>53036505
Please go be a retarded 12 year old somewhere else

>>53036521
No fat boy

>>53036556
But that is what you are.

>>53036570
Likewise

>>53036577
Your mom

>>53036609
At least mine loves me, neet

Not like how your mom loves me tho

>>53036631
Your mom thinks you are a smelly faggot

>>53036648
That's what your mom calls my asshole.

Your mom looks like a naked mole rat.

With a homosexual son.

>>53036660
So the only mom you have seen is your mom? Also it sounds like you need to wash your ass more often.

>>53036715
Nigger you don't even understand logic.

Which, you know, you believe in ladyknights so it kinda makes sense that you're completely stupid.

But your mom licks my asshole clean for me.

>>53036744
You don't understand jack shit you stupid faggot. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Hatchet. Women did fight on the battlefield sure it was not common but it did happen.

You need to open you eyes when you are getting you smelly ass cleaned so you would see that it's your dad doing a shitty job.

>>53036859
Watching you white knight for ladyknights just proves how nonexistent they are. Ceremonial at best.

Maybe if you had a dad you wouldn't be this pathetic.

>>53027000
That's Oxenfurt

>>53036887
>I did not look at the link and I am retarded 12 year old.

>>53036926
>I posted a link to wikipedia because I think no one else has read it or scrutinized it.

You are too uneducated to condescend, fat fatherless boy.

>>53036943
So you did not read it and you have zero facts to back up your stupid posts?

>>53036979
You have even less

Post a woman in armour and some folks just have a full blown weeping fit. It's very precious.

>>53036994

>Weeping
You're too autistic to process actual human emotion, don't try to fake it.

>>53036923
And?

>>53036986
Nope, you have not shown that women fighting is fantasy in anyway, you have jack shit for proof. A Wikipedia link is way more than what you have or will ever have.

>>53037063
except it says that the order is ceremonial

>>53037123
If you read all of it you would see that they got the order by defending the city.

>>53037160
The city which already had a guard and wasn't assaulted regularly.

Which makes them the participation trophy of knightly orders.

Ergo ceremonial.

You didn't fucking read it.

>>53037019
Except it isn't.
almost
clearly tried to be

>>53037194
Reread it dumbass, it says their participation was essential to the defense of Tortosa.

>>53037242
Yeah that's not exaggerrated

>>53037009
Proving people's points for them a post at a time.

>>53037248
Can you show it's exaggerated? The count was impressed enough to make the Order of the Hatchet so they must done a pretty good job.

These last two dozen or so posts are truly a clash of titans.

>>53031973
>Well, a 12-year-old might be suited for for some jobs on the battlefield.
Drummerboy!

>>53033100
They are not physically there but spiritually. They don´t directly intervene in the battle but influence the minds of the people that are taking part.

>>53036363
He´s an undead, so you bet he is magical

>>53033100
I think they aren't present as solid objects or even visible, the MC just can percieve them because she's a witch/shaman.

>>53028340
>I wouldn't want to be cavalry at any point pre-stirrups honestly.

The macedonian lancers were pretty damn effective, eh.

But I guess they're too swarty to count or something?

>>53031968
>THEY NEVAR DID X!!!!
>*the instance of X being done*
>I SAID THEY MOSTLY DIDN'T!!!!!!!!

Gosh, you argue like a woman.

>>53029538
TW? What game is that? I'm assuming not Total War, since you said fantasy.

>>53037570
I'm telling myself it's an epic example of samefagging, in an attempt to stay sane.

>>53025017
>>53027289
greetings programs, we need more molok, hankrin

>>53037982
It could be the Witcher, It could also be the dev studio TaleWorlds who make Mount and Blade.

I'm glad historians nipped the idiots pretending shieldmaidens were everywhere in the bud.

>>53027384
That art yours?

New thread when.

New thread

>>53038783
>>53038783
>>53038783

>>53038664
Laziness has no excuse

>>53038037
It was more like a epic tale of you falling off a wall of dicks

>>53025351
I always see these drawings but I don't know where they come from

>>53027296
shit bait mate

when will underages understand that there is nothing shit by default?

there are a lot of fantasy armor that look great and there is a lot of realistic stuff that is stupid and pathetic

>>53039016
>when will underages understand
Never. It comes with having a simplistic as fuck understanding of everything.