Where does your character fall?

>>53017930
Where do burgers fit?
I'd be tempted to say SP,IN or even TN, but they do seem to fit the criteria for hardline traditionalist - there's nothing in a burger that wouldn't go in a sandwich individually (though beef might not usually be hot, tomato dressing wouldn't usually be as ketchup-y etc.)

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>>53017930

>>53017930
Who here /SNIP/?

>>53017930
>no open-faced sandwich
shit chart

>>53018141
>He's RSA
If I had any smug anime girls...

>>53018091
Then stuffed tomatos are a sandwich? Tomatos, tuna, and mayonnaise are very on the purist side of ingredients.

>>53018260
>Then stuffed tomatos are a sandwich?
No.
I'd say that the food must be enveloped in bread of any kind in any way for it to be a sandwich, be it taco, lavash or just a regular pan bread.
Chicken wrap and burrito are definitely sandwiches, though.

>>53018091
Found the Structural Purist.

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>>53018282
Then what about pic related? Empanadas? Milanesas? Panko sushi?

>>53018311
That's a dumpling.

>>53018328
But is it a sandwich?

>>53018311
Your pic was baked with the contents, it's more of a pie than a sandwich. Same about the rest. The point is you envelop already prepared ingredients with already prepared bread.

>>53018282
Why is a wrap a sandwich when a waffle sandwich isn't?
Waffles are as "bread-y" as wraps

>>53018155
RSA?

>>53018337
No its a Dumpling.
Samich is something different shit you can eat separate in between two pieces of bread.

>>53018361
>Why is a wrap a sandwich when a waffle sandwich isn't?
If it was a waffle with chicken or something, I would call it a sandwich. But as it is, it's just some sort of fucked up confectionery. I mean, it's technically a sandwich, but its "intent" is anything but.

>>53018119
I'm a mix of SNIP and SPIN, though not true neutral.

>>53018378
Yeah, but then you remember that jam sandwiches and chocolate spread sandwiches are a thing

>>53018408
I wouldn't really call those "sandwiches".
Are they open-faced or closed-faced?
Because in my language, there is such a wonderful word as "butterbrot", which before indicated bread with butter and toppings, but nowadays just indicated anything that includes bread and toppings, whether open-faced or closed-fased (so yeah, a sandwich is a subclass of a butterbrot).

>>53018091
Wraps are not sandwiches, you madman.

>>53018429
Very much closed-faced.
They're mainly a kiddy thing, but I have occasionally seen jam and other non-savoury sandwiches elsewhere

tfw blt paladin

I'm a GM, not a player but I'll toss a few NPC the PCs are friends with at it.

Sierra: Structural Purist, Ingredient Rebel. (Blake defined the structure that makes a sandwich, it is not our place to redefine the holy word but nor are we to be bound by those who would limit things within that holy structure.)
Hana Val-Kalla: Structural Rebel, Ingrediant Purist. (Delicious Kebab Wraps)
Q-33 South: Structural Neutral, Ingredient Rebel (Enjoys making weird and wacky food, especially sweets.)
Dr Eirin Sunstar: Hardline Traditionalist (Everything with it's proper term. Not being a sandwich doesn't make it not fine food)
Maraluelohr-Truubuhm-Balxiabahl: Radical Sandwich Anarchy (Sanity is for weak and feeble sandwiches.)

SPIR here. A sandwich is about the shape, not the contents. Anything sandwiched between two slices of a bread-like substance could qualify as a sandwich.

>>53017930
SPIN is the one true way. A sandwhich is defined as toppings or other food placed between two slices of bread.

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>>53017930
Where does the Double Down fall under?

>>53018696
>Double Down
Abomination

>>53018696

I think it is technically a SPIR.

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>>53018696
I'd say that it qualifies as a sandwich. It's just that in this case, the container IS the food.
You know, like it is the case with bread in a classical sandwich.

>>53017930
>A rumour in a contemporaneous travel book called Tour to London by Pierre-Jean Grosley formed the popular myth that bread and meat sustained Lord Sandwich at the gambling table. Lord Sandwich was a very conversant gambler, the story goes, and he did not take the time to have a meal during his long hours playing at the card table. Consequently, he would ask his servants to bring him slices of meat between two slices of bread, a habit well known among his gambling friends. Other people, according to this account, began to order "the same as Sandwich!", and thus the "sandwich" was born.

I think I'll have the same as Sandwich thank you.

>>53018119
Everything else is heresy. Hardline's aren't wrong but too rigid

>>53017930
Everything in structure purist along with Structure Nuetral, Ingredient Purist are sandwiches

>>53017930
Literally all of those are sandwiches.

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>>53017930
>baguette sandwich is not purist
fucking muricans

>>53018696
A holy artefact bestowed by saints and angels

>>53017930
I want to say true neutral, but a hot dog is not a sandwich. A sub is, and a chip butty is, but a hot dog absolutely isn't.

Also, ice cream between waffles is an ice cream sandwich, which is to a sandwich the way big cats are to housecats - they're related, but entirely distinct.

>>53019359
Of course a hotdog is a sandwich.

>>53019390
no
is only one continuous peice of bread.

its an excessively thick wrap.

>>53019592
And wraps are sandwiches.

>>53019603
no they're not. Only one peice of bread again.

>>53019646
So what? A sandwich just requires bread on 2 sides. Bread on ALL the sides meets and beats those expectations. All wraps are sandwiches, but not all sandwiches are wraps.

>>53019676
Wraps aren't sandwiches, and sandwiches aren't wraps. They're two different foods.

I bet you think a calzone is a pizza.

>>53019728
No, a calzone is a sandwich.

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>>53019784

That sure is some hot, closely-reasoned argument you're making there. Fuckface.

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Literally sandwiches.

>>53019784
A chip butty can be pretty good, provided you use something other than plain, untoasted bread.

>>53019773
It's the calzone ingredients cooked inside?

>>53019837

What about a calzone between two pieces of bread?

>>53019837
Yes? A Panini is also a sandwich.

>>53019828
The one in the picture is nasty.

>>53018091
>an icecream sandwich isn't a sandwich
You can fuck off back to no fun land!

>>53019855
well yeah, but stock food images tend to look fucking horrid

>>53019872
The hotdog looks nasty too.

What is needed is a return to original functionality. Sandwiches were invented to allow one-handed eating. If it involves bread and one or more fillings or condiments, and can be eaten one-handed (or cut in half to allow one handed eating) it's a goddamn sandwich.

>>53019322
It's french, how could it be pure?

>>53019892

That is to say, everything except for Chaotic Evil is a sandwich, and placing a second poptart on top of the first (especially if both frosting sides touch) would resolve even that issue.

>>53019892
I can get behind that

>>53019892
would an eclair be a sandwich, then?

>>53019962
A pop tart is very much a sandwich.

>>53020000
Yes.

>>53017930
>>53019962

Wait, is that a filled poptart or a classic one?

>Make SPIP paladin
>DM keeps trying to make me fall and become a SRIP

Why do DMs do this?

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>>53017930

In order to be a sandwich, you need a filling, which is sandwiched between two pieces of bread. This precludes wraps (where the filling is, well, wrapped), tacos and hot dogs (where the filling is contained but not sandwiched due to their vertical alignment), and calzones (which are a pie - that is, baked within a crust that surrounds it). Further, in order to be a true sandwich, the filling must be primarily savory, and composed of multiple distinct ingredients. This precludes ice cream sandwiches and sandwich cookies, as well as butter sandwiches, ketchup sandwiches, and similar abominations, which may be called sandwiches but only with a disclaimer indicating they are not true sandwiches as part of their name.

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>>53020005
what the fuck
stop this madness

>>53020000

The "bread" isn't bread, it's pastry.

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>>53020060

What if you have an insufficient amount of filling such that the top and bottom pieces of bread touch, creating de-facto bread suroundment on all six sides?

"Sandwich" is a mechanical term. If some substance is surrounded by another substance with the intended effect being cleaner eating and not getting food on things, it is a sandwich.

>>53020090
Then it's a bad sandwich. You still attempted to make a sandwich, you just should be ashamed of the results.

>>53020109

But this thing, functionally a wrap, is still a sandwich because of the sandwich artist's intent?

This way lies madness, friend.

>>53020105
Sandwich isn't a mechanical term, it's a term of understanding and communication. If I ask for a sandwich and someone gives me a taco or a hot dog, let alone a goddamn calzone or a fucking pop tart, then they are not providing me with what I have asked for. They're intentionally subverting my expectations because they think that makes them clever.

what do you think of a sandwich made by folding one slice of bread in half but not breaking it, so the filling is still sandwiched but you have one closed side you can use to prevent the filling from escaping.

>>53020143
If you asked for "a sandwich" you deserve whatever you get because you refused to be specific in your request. When ordering a sandwich you specify every part of it.

>>53020135
No, because the intention of a wrap isn't to sandwich the ingredients. It's to wrap the ingredients. Sandwiching means to press between two objects. Wrap means to surround with one flexible object.

>>53019892
>If it involves bread and one or more fillings or condiments, and can be eaten one-handed (or cut in half to allow one handed eating) it's a goddamn sandwich.
So by your reasoning, a pizza is a sandwich? It involves bread and condiments, and can be cut to allow one-handed eating. What about a calzone? A donut? A pie? Where do you draw the line? Is there any food involving bread that isn't a sandwich? Stop this madness!

>>53020177
A slice of pizza is a sandwich if you fold it in half. A Calzone is a sandwich. Donuts and pies are also sandwiches.

>>53020163
Not always. E.g., catering. If the office says that they will provide sandwiches for the meeting, and then gets one of those platters of mini-sandwiches from a deli, they met the group understanding. If they get a mix of calzones, pop tarts, hot dogs, and tacos, they have not.

>>53020135
>>53020171

Fine then, a defacto pasty?

>>53017930
Structure Neutral, Ingredient Purist. Anything else is heresy.

>>53020193
Yes they have because all of those things are sandwiches.

>>53020190
In other words, you want to intentionally make the word "sandwich" meaningless. You're a twisted fuck, you know that?

>>53020209
In the world of food, you are either a sandwich or a sandwich ingredient.

>>53020200
Pasties are a pie.

>>53020208
No. None of those things are sandwiches. Thwarting peoples' attempts to communicate is not clever, it just makes you an asshole.

>>53020071
pastry could arguably be considered a variant kind of bread

>>53020162
I was just about to ask this to >>53020171 - how does the folded sandwich fit into his (overly restrictive) model?

>>53020177
>donut
I mean, isn't the only difference between an american-style doughnut and a bagel how savoury is it?
A bagel is clearly established as kind of sandwich, and sweet sandwiches (Jam, Nutella) exist, so if you cut a doughnut in half surely you've just got a variant on the sandwich again?

Though I do agree that pizza isn't a sandwich, unless you make a sandwich using pizza

>>53020238

But that isn't an answer. It's an attempted sandwich but *also* an accidental pie?

>>53018696
Why are there so many images of girls eating things while crying?

>>53020257
American donuts are basically deep fried cakes. Bagels are not.

>>53020268
Pasties (and similar foods like slices, and sausage rolls) are not sandwiches, but they serve the same function (one-handed eating) and they get sold by the same people, for the same meal, so they're alike in concept enough that you could press the point

>>53020238
They are all sandwiches. Your boss might be a jerk but he is technically correct, the best kind of correct.

>>53020162
>>53020257
Folded sandwiches are more properly classified as a taco. Or a taco-like food.

So is banana bread a bread or a cake.

>>53020060
>Further, in order to be a true sandwich, the filling must be primarily savory
Disagree, the jam or nutella sandwich is a staple of school lunchs.

>>53020257
If you cut a donut in half and put condiments on it, like a bagel, I agree it could count as a sandwich. What I meant was a whole, uncut, filled donut, which according to >>53019892 's definition would count as a sandwich, but is clearly not a sandwich.

>>53020315
Tacos are definitely sandwiches.

>>53020329
A filled donut is very clearly a sandwich.

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>>53017930
>The Great /tg/ Sandwich Debate of 2017
Why am I not surprised?

hey wassup I'm a cook who dumped 50k into sandwich school.
In my opinion, structural purity is the only thing necessary to be considered a sandwich. A taco is a taco and a grinder is a grinder. But am ice cream sandwich has it right there in the name.
The exceptions are sandwiches that aren't sandwiches, burgers are burgers and macaroons are macaroons. But a cheeseburger on a hoagie is a grinder.
In my opinion this is because sandwich has become a verb. Sandwiching something has a specific meaning, even though a wrap has similar ingredients the action is wrapping, not sandwiching.

English is beautiful.

>>53020365

All of those things are subgenres of sandwich.

>>53020365
> hey wassup I'm a cook who dumped 50k into sandwich school.
tits-- I mean, proof or gtfo

>>53020353
I wouldn't say "clearly", but it fits the criteria in the way it surrounds the filling and allows for one-handed eating - put it with other one-handed pastries like >>53020291 (I think the presence of a pastry case/enclosure would be the line I'd draw for them not being a sandwich)

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>>53017930
Structural Purist, Ingredient Rebel for sure.

>>53020268
No, that's not how pies work. Pies require that the filling be contained within a crust. Crust isn't bread any more than pretzels are cake.

>>53020318
Yes

>>53020404
Relax man, pies are sandwiches too.

>>53020308
Technically correct is the worst kind of correct, because literally all you're doing is trying to prove you're clever. You know that's not what they intended, but you do it anyway because you get to be smug about it. But it's the kind of behavior only hipsters and autists find clever. Everyone else just thinks you're a dick.

>>53020419
Say you're feeling extra fat. You take two slices of banana bread, and you add a little cream cheese between them. Is is clearly a sandwich. If it is acceptable in this regard to use cake in a sandwich then all confections can be used to create sandwiches. A multi layer cake is a sandwich. A devil dog is a sandwich. Two cookies with jam between them is a sandwich.

>>53017930
top three are definitely a yes, left middle yes, middle i'd say you could argue, right middle no, bottom left kinda, but if you said something like that in conversation i'd call you retarded, the last two are definite no

>>53017930
I don't know about my character but I can tell you I'm a hardline SPIR.

It doesn't devalue the deliciousness of wraps or whatever the general term for hotdogs and equally "just sorta put in the top there" is, but they are not sandwiches.
On the other hand, a sandwich's true purpose shines through in the freedom of what ingredients you use, as it is truly malleable like that.
Many cultures from around the world have found their distinct way of utilising thei rmost basic form of food (bread, wraps, etc.) to envelop other basic forms of food to make a meal fit for gods but accessible by the common man. They are all different, and a sandwhich is not a wrap is not that other thing.

>>53020387
No, they aren't. If I call a hot dog a sausage sandwich on my menu, it's misleading. If I call a meatball sub a meatloaf sandwich, it is also misleading. I could put wraps in a section full of sandwiches, as long as I properly labeled it as a wrap. If the customer is surprised in anyway by what they receive the menu item is inaccurate.

We have another word for these things for a reason. They aren't lobster sandwiches, they're lobster rolls. An Italian on a bulkie is a sandwich but on a hoagie it's a grinder.

>>53020391
what do you want my financial aid statement?

SPIN all the way. Anything else is just taking the piss.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luther_Burger

>>53020509
That's what spergs don't get - words are tools for communicating. If you're confusing people, then it doesn't matter how correct you think you are, you're wrong.

>>53020449
I'd only consider a multi-layer cake a sandwich if the fillings are contained between the layers. If you start covering the outside in cream or other stuff afterwards, it no longer qualifies as a sandwich.

>>53020575
That I'll agree with. A sandwich is meant to be eaten cleanly and frosting and such goes against that design philosophy.

>>53020550
>>53020509
It's only misleading because people are predisposed to assuming a sandwich's structural identity.

Except the meatball sub/meatloaf sandwich one. A meatball sub has balls, a meatloaf sandwich has loaf.

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>>53017930
>Hot dog
>Sandwhich

Someone would like a word with you

>>53020610
Meatballs are occasionally large and sliced like meatloaf, I would actually argue that meatballs are a form of meatloaf for several reasons. But I'm also agreeing that it is misleading.

>>53020610
>it's only misleading because everyone else is wrong
Spergs.

>>53020699
You're the on getting mad about sandwiches, bruh.

>>53020509
>If I call a hot dog a sausage sandwich on my menu, it's misleading.
Well yeah, but that's because hot dogs are emulsified sausages.

though an emulsified sausage sandwich could also be referring to a bologna sandwich

>>53020730
hot dogs are forcemeat sausages, objectively.

>>53020699
I am sorry to be the baron of bad news, but you seem buttered, so allow me to play doubles advocate here for a moment. For all intensive purposes I think you are wrong. In an age where false morals are a diamond dozen, true virtues are a blessing in the skies, and are more than just ice king on the cake. We often put our false morality on a petal stool like a bunch of pre-Madonnas, but you all seem to be taking something very valuable for granite.

So I ask of you to mustard up all the strength you can because it is a doggy dog world out there. Although there is some merit to what you are saying it seems like you have a huge ship on your shoulder. In your argument you seem to throw everything in but the kids Nsync, and even though you are having a feel day with this I am here to bring you back into reality.

I have a sick sense when it comes to these types of things. It is almost spooky, because I cannot turn a blonde eye to these glaring flaws in your rhetoric. I have zero taller ants when it comes to people spouting out hate in the name of moral righteousness. You just need to remember what comes around is all around, and when supply and command fails you will be the first to go.

Make my words, when you get down to brass stacks it doesn't take rocket appliances to get two birds stoned at once. It's clear who makes the pants in this relationship, and sometimes you just have to swallow your prize and accept the fax, instead of making a half-harded effort. You might have to come to this conclusion through denial and error but I swear on my mother's mating name that when you put the petal to the medal you will pass with flying carpets like it's a peach of cake.

>>53020851
tl/dr

>>53018058
Burgers (which are a subcategory of sandwich) would probably be SPIN

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>>53019877
>"lips n assholes" in tube form looks nasty

a surprise

>>53021276
Hotdogs can look good. Large grilled ones, at least.

>>53019809
>Literally sandwiches.
Aren't things like Oreos literally called "sandwich cookies"?

>>53017930
I didn't realize how much I needed ice cream inside of waffles.

>>53020319
That issue was decided by the PB&J Accords of 1894.

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>>53020365
>>53020509
This

Although wtf is a grinder?

>>53020851
I lost interest near the start of the second paragraph, this isn't entertaining enough to justify it's length

>>53017930
Subs & buttys are fine but hotdogs are too far

>>53021545
>Although wtf is a grinder?
Short answer it's a type of sub.

Long answer, see link below...
http://www.thekitchn.com/hoagies-heroes-subs-and-grinders-whats-the-deal-with-these-sandwich-names-222944

>>53017930
Structural neutral ingredient purist

As an Australian I can tell you anyone who doesn't consider a chip sandwich (wtf is a "chip butty") a sandwich is a fuckin yobbo. Those are the tits and a staple of summer beach lunch.

Also, where would a Po-boy fit on this chart?

>>53020851
Literally the only thing that stuck in my mind is being irritated at 'intensive'

>>53021623
A butty is what it's often called in Britain, same as a bacon butty. I assume it just means that it's buttered bread.

>>53021623
>wtf is a "butty"
a sanger

>>53021623
Structure neutral, ingredient purist. Maybe leaning ingredient neutral if the hardcore purists don't consider fried oysters to be a sandwich topping, but in the triangle of sanity rather than the "hotdog is a sandwich" lunacy.

>>53021623
>Also, where would a Po-boy fit on this chart?
Either SNIP or SPIN I think.

A butty is a (northern) britbong word for sandwich (as is a sarnie, and don't get started on the words for bread rolls)

>>53021623
po'boy's are sandwiches but it's better to call them po'boys.
same with banh mi

>>53020535
>During the Jewish festival of Hanukkah, Jews traditionally indulge in eating oily and fried foods—such as sufganiyot (Hebrew: סופגניות), an Israeli round jelly doughnut—in connection to the miracle of the cruse of oil. In 2016, Burger King Israel introduced their "SufganiKing" (Hebrew: סופגניקינג): a Whopper with two sufganiyot in place of the bun. The SufganiKing will be available during Hanukkah 2016 (December 25, 2016 – January 1, 2017),[16] and will cost ₪14.90 (US$4.00).
Only four dollars? Maybe those Jews ain't so bad.

Structure Rebel Ingredient Purist. Anybody who says a wrap is not a sandwich is a fucking infidel.

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>>53017930
Your silly chart can't contain me

>>53022414
DIE SRIR SCUM

>>53018696
Why is she crying?

The double down was underwhelming (and lower calorie than a normal sandwich, hilariously), but not THAT bad!

>>53020277
You know the answer. You just don't want to admit it.

>>53022414
DELET

>>53018091
agreed

>>53018091
>accepting burrito as a sandwich
disgusting

>>53018502
>Pb&j is a list thing
You can fuck right off with this. The pb&j is the perfect late night snack

>>53020318
It depends on the chocolate chip ratio, also expanding from banana bread to all fruit/veggie breads, it depends if there is icing. If there's icing, it's a fucking cake, end of story

>>53020318
Neither. It's closer to a muffin than anything.

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>>53022414
THIS IS WHY WE NEED PRAYER IN SCHOOLS!

>>53017930
Subs are to sandwiches what what Wyverns are to Dragons.

They're fucking sandwiches.

>>53023437
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>53021545
>Subs & buttys are fine but hotdogs are too far

A hotdog is sausage meat in a sliced roll. Why does it get a pass and something like say, a salami sub not? Is it the slicing? The meat being hot? Is a french dip not a sandwich? Cheesesteak? A hamburger?

A hotdog is a by all rights, a technical sandwich.

>>53017930
This is a sandwich.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DvnOYZnlns

>>53023665
My personal rule is "if I said I knew a really great sandwich place, and when you went to it you discovered it actually specialized in X, would you think I was fucking with you?" By that metric, a sub is a sandwich, as is a French dip. On the other hand, a hot dog isn't. Nor is a burger, because I should have said "I know a great burger place."

>>53019322
Baguette sandwich would fall under structural purist, though.
>Frenchy doesn't know what a sub is

>>53023437
What have you done?
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?

>>53024285
Well shit, this is where all the weird crap my coworker has been saying came from.

Thanks, I guess.

>>53024736
You're welcome!

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>>53023326
Where are your gods now?

What if we put ham and mustard between two pop-tarts?

>>53025287
Preparing a special place in hell for your kind.

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>>53026238
You can't escape it

>>53027460
Why?

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>>53028316
Because the universe is a dark and uncaring place.

>>53022414
We need a Johad against the SRIR scum

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>>53029140
>implying there are force that can oppose the mighty bread sandwich

SNIR here. Can we all just agree that SR of any variety should all just be killed?

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>>53029197
Two pieces of bread on each side, toppings in between

>>53029322
This works for me.

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>>53029410
Have a SPIR classic then.

All the structural purist and ingredient purist, structural neutral are sandwiches. However I personally am hardline traditionalist.

>>53020193
>If they get a mix of calzones, pop tarts, hot dogs, and tacos, they have not.
They have instead gone beyond the call of duty and should be praised.

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>>53029489
What about this structural purist sandwich?

This is by far the best thread on the board at the moment. Just wanted you guys to know

>>53029454
Yum

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>>53029194
>Laughing uncontrollably at pictures of bread sandwiches at 2AM
This is my life now

But seriously though, putting starchy food (is that the right word?) between loaves of bread is a fucking crime.

Looking at you, Réunionese "Américain". Why are you so popular around here?

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>>53029899
What about this? Is this also a sandwich?

Sandwich?
Sandwich.

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>>53029995
Sandwich!

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>>53017930
I reject your bread morality, AND your putting things between food morality

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>>53030017
Sandwich¿

This is /tg/ related how?

>>53017930
SNIP master race

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>all this sandwich sin

I CAN'T FUCKING TAKE IT ANYMORE

BRB MAKIN A WHISKEY ON RYE

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SNIR?

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>>53030132
>SNIP master race
You need to broaden your horizons, my dude

>>53022414
SPIR

>>53020610
>It's only misleading because people are predisposed to assuming a sandwich's structural identity.
Yes, which is the exact reason why "sandwich" (or any other word, for that matter) means what it does.

>>53018282
>>53022725
>burrito
Varies by jurisdiction. Massachusetts says it isn't a sandwich, New York says it is.

http://www.retailrealestatelaw.com/archives/1293
https://www.tax.ny.gov/pubs_and_bulls/tg_bulletins/st/sandwiches.htm

Ask your local high court. I'm sure they'll be thrilled about being asked to define common food items for you.

>>53017930
Structure Purist and Structural Neutral, Ingredient Purist.

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>>53023437
HAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAAHAAHA

This functionalist "sandwiches are anything surrounded by bread in order to be eaten one-handed" argument is complete lunacy. A fried chicken leg fits that definition.

Functionalists get out!

>>53030921
You forgot the cleanliness, if you wouldn't shuffle your deck after eating it, it doesn't count.

>>53030089
Your characters don't eat food while traveling?

>>53030966
Plenty of sandwiches are unclean. They may have a lot of sauce, or bread that leaves crumbs, flour, or other residues on your hands. Yet nobody would dream of denying their sandwichhood.

Also, a well-breaded piece of fried chicken is far cleaner than if it were unbreaded. It does fill that function, just not particularly well. You have to draw a line somewhere, and any definition that requires drawing an arbitrary, qualitative line is not a good definition at all. The cleanliness clause is clearly untenable.

>>53029454
That's clearly SPIN

>>53031146
We need a cumulative list of traits that, when together, are enough to define a sandwich.

>Can be eaten with one hand.
>Surrounded by baked goods.

What else?

>>53018784
So sandwiches are /tg/ then?

>>53031363
I absolutely can't agree on the one-handed thing. First of all, what if you have a minuscule little baby hand? It shouldn't rely on the subject.

Second, how the hell do you eat a 12-inch meatball sub (or whatever your local word is for that) with one hand? Anything that you'd be happy to call a sandwich could have it's sandwichood revoked simply by being longer than some arbitrary rule. A sandwich could require two or even more hands.

>>53031471
Well, /tg/ has a penchant for doing the work of other boards whose communities are shit, so yeah, we'll do /ck/'s job.

>>53031363
>>53031542
How about we expand it to:
>can eat and hold in hands theoretically without getting ingredients on hands.

I could also stipulate some form of protein ingredient, but that would exclude Grilled Cheese sandwiches, which should qualify.

>>53030288
Sayin' this'll be the day that you die?

>>53031641
Anon, cheese is 25% protein.
>>53031895
Did you write the book of love or something?

>>53018784
the Sandwich is /tg/!

>>53031641
Are open faced sandwiches no longer sandwiches?

>>53032040
Unless you are unable to hold it without spilling, they are.

It's like subway subs, if you filled it with enough sauces to liquify the bread that's no longer a sandwich, no matter what you try to justify it.

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>>53031641
>can eat and hold in hands theoretically without getting ingredients on hands.

I'd very much disagree here. There are tons of delicious sandwiches that don't meet this definition.

>>53031555
You take that back you...
>browses through six For Me threads
>fastfood shills everywhere
...eh, nevermind, carry on good sir

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>>53032104
This is very clearly a sandwich, but you are going to spill when eating it.

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>>53017930
My current character would consider these sandwiches.

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This is a sandwich.

>>53017930
A better pic for RSA would be that thing KFC did where they literally made a sandwich with two pieces of fried chicken as bread.

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>>53032324

>>53031953
>Christfag has faith in god above, if the Bible tells him so
Kek

>>53022414
MAME! KILL! BURN!!

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>>53032324
>>53032426
Have sandwiches gone too far?

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>>53018696
>>53032324
>>53032426
>>53033160
These are abominations.
Clearly wizard food, the food of amoral assholes.

A hotdog bun is a long piece of bread sliced partially.

The bread used for a sub is a long piece of bread sliced all the way.

How the fuck do you get from a hotdog bun to a taco?

>>53029077
When I was growing up we called this a wish sandwich. Because we wish we had more than bread to eat.

>>53029454
S.P.I.R. The Sick and Irredeemable People of Retardium.

>>53030375
Thats a sandwich

>>53033160
>Have sandwiches gone too far?
Yes.
But we should keep going.

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>>53020851
>diamond dozen
>mfw

>>53020851
Doubles Advocate everyone. He's basically a namefag minus the name.

>>53017930
Everyone who isn't a hardline traditionalist is completely wrong.

Are burgers sandwiches?

>>53017930
Between hardline traditionalist and structural neutral, ingredient purist

Hey, I'm pretty vanilla at this.

>>53033344
People make the argument that a wrap is a sandwich because it has all of the ingredients of a sandwich inside a tortilla. When you mix in the idea that sandwiches do not need traditional ingredients, you get the taco heresy.

>>53018367

What about a single piece of bread with a void in the middle into which the contents are stuffed, like a sub sandwich or hotdog?

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>>53034913

Yes.

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Hardline Traditionalist here.

All others are proponents of anarchy.

Sandwich anarchists GTFO!

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>>53035014
SRIR

In the End, when the Sun dies out, the moon crashes down, and the earth becomes barren, sterile and hallow...

ALL Shall be Sandwiches!

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>>53030288
Bye bye, miss american sandwich.

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My Character wouldn't for strong opinions on sandwhiches, he'd just be glad to have enough food.

Oh the poor orphaned creature. Truly his life has been a struggle to survive.

>>53017930
SPIR They don't call it an icecream SANDWICH for nothing.
Though I do still consider subs a sandwich, because most subs I've seen actually have the buns fully seperate.

>>53018361
Radical Sandwich Anachy, did you not read the chart?
Though personally I would consider openfaced as SRIN.

>>53019646
so does that mean a quesadilla made with one tortilla is not a sandwich, but if it's made with two it is a sandwich? seems kind of arbitrary.

>>53022574
body image issues, brought on by corporate needs to push increasingly unattainable standards to sell their products?

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>>53018408
>>53018429
say that to my Monte Cristo.

>>53022414
Is that a pool noodle?!

>>53023665
the salami on the sub is sliced. nobody flops an entire salami roll onto a sub and calls it a sandwich.
chop that hotdog into slices, then lay them along the bun cut sides aligned, then come back and we'll talk.

>>53029322
SHEETS of bread. as in thinner than they are wide and long.

>>53020851
jeegus, guy, did you piss in your autocorrect's cheerios or something?

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>>53020851

>>53017930

I have no idea why I got so mad at Pop-tarts being called a sandwich, but I did.

Anyways, where do I fall if I say Ice cream between two waffles is a sandwich, but so is a sub sandwich, while anything to the left and lower is not a sandwich?

>>53035781
So... "must use a leavened bread product as the container" but any ingredients are fine.

>>53035906
So Sourdough isn't a sandwich?

SPIP with one step in either direction

>>53035925
All sourdough is leavened, produced by fermented dough.

>>53035781
I laughed at the Poptart sandwich, so I guess I'm chaotic evil?

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>>53035024
See this, it's a Korean Beef sandwich, with kim chi, cheddar cheese, and other more traditional toppings. It is god damn delicious. SP/IP is a straight jacket, one that robs you of so many wonderful things.

>>53030089
See >>53018784 - the origins of sandwiches are a guy not wanting to break from his card games to go and eat, that's pretty /tg/ (incidentally, England at the time was absolutely gambling-obsessed)

Which does add a bit of credence to >>53031641 - the sandwich at creation was "something you can eat without messing up your card-playing" - it's fine that it's moved past that and evolved, but it's a good starting point for "is this a sandwich?" questions

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What about this? Is it a sandwich too?

>>53020061
Think of the filling as the meat or jelly and the frosting on top and the unfrosted bottom as the bread.

>>53019784

The only correct answer. A sandwich is two slices of bread, or one bread item cut into two pieces, with some variety of fruit or meat based topping.

>>53019646
But what if I take a single slice of bread, put Jelly on one side, Peanut Butter on the other and fold it in half?

>>53018696
You need at least one more axis to describe the Double Down.

...I think I'm going with "chaotic evil."

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>>53029140

>>53036314
That's pornography.

>>53036398
>and fold it in half?
Jelly side in or Jelly side out?
This is important.

Chetana is likely a SNIR. Pescetarian who tends towards spicy veggie wraps.

>>53019795
not him, but he seems to be indicating that

a sandwich requires either traditional structure OR traditional ingredients, not necessarily both

and that if a sandwich lacks both, it isnt a sandiwch

a perfectly reasonable opinion

>>53035044
Drove the cheese whiz to a lettuce but the lettuce was dry

>>53037516
If that were his argument then he should have included Ingredient Rebel to have logical consistency.
Because as it is, the classic PB&J would not qualify as a sandwich by that reasoning.
And lets be honest, the structural arraignment is the defining trait of a sandwich, which is why every type of sandwich is referred to as [descriptor] sandwich. The layout is the difference between a "ham and cheese sandwich", a "ham and cheese wrap", and a "ham and cheese breakfast burrito", they all have pretty much the exact same ingredients.

>>53035249
How the fuck is not wasting one piece of bread for the most hardline sandwich radical sandwich anarchy? Unless you go crazy with the toppings, open faced is pure SPIP.

>>53035574
Hold on. That means that a Sandwich made if say a large roll might cease to become a sandwich if you ate enough of it. That is madness. All bread counts.

>>53037777
And salad, this will be the day that I dye.

>>53037855
How the fuck do you even eat an open faced sandwich?

>>53037941
You hold it in your hand, you mongoloid. How do you eat pizza?

>>53037923
>dye
*rye, surely?

>>53037959
With a knife and a fork, right?

>>53037959
>How do you eat pizza?
I had to roll up slices the other day, it was so damn soft

>>53018696
Under The hoof of Satan heathen

>>53037941
>>53037973
>>53037983

>Teaching autists how to eat a fucking sandwich on /tg/
Where the fuck have I gone with my life

Okay then, for all you americunts that can't fathom the idea of not using two pieces of bread that make your sandwich dry as fuck, I will spell this out.

1) You place your fingers and thumb on the opposite edges of the sandwich
2) You lift the sandwich up to your mouth using the muscles in your arm.
3) You coordinate your hand movement with the visual feedback from your eyes in order to hit your mouth with the sandwich.
4) Do not forget to breathe
5) Take a bite out of the sandwich.
6) Chew (Repeat this step as needed)
7) Swallow the sandwich.
8) Repeat steps 4-7 until there is no more sandwich.

>>53038029
Also when you top it up with a slice of cheese for example, then there is literally no difference in how you eat it, you can still grab it from the sides and not sauce up your fingers.

>>53038029
>opposite edges of the sandwich
Better define this too, or some people will hold them the wrong way.
Never underestimate the power of stupid people on the internet.

>>53020661
He has no power here, back to whence you came.

>>53017930
Neutral hotdog, really.

>>53018351
Not if you're making a pannini, a cuban sandwich or a grilled cheese.

>>53018429
What about peanut butter and jelly? Marshmallow fluff and banana slices?

Is a michelada a sandwich? Since it's beer, which is like a form of bread, enveloping something savory?

>>53018779
The chicken is breaded, it's literally 2 pieces of bread with meat and cheese inbetween.

Even full-fledged sandwich paladins have to accept the double down.

>>53020163
>>53020143
>>53020193
Just because it's not called a sandwich in the common vernacular doesn't make it not a sandwich. If you just ask for "a sandwich" and a person's interpretation of the idea of a sandwich is different than yours you should have been more specific whether you wanted a BLT and got a burger or you wanted meat between bread and got a pop-tart.

>>53038679
No, that's exactly what it means. Words exist to convey information. If you use the word sandwich to describe food that isn't a sandwich, you're not conveying information, you're intentionally obfuscating it.

If I ask you if a restaurant sells sandwiches, and you tell me they do, then I have every reason to expect that they will sell what are traditionally considered sandwiches. If it turns out they're a kosher deli that doesn't sell pork, then you gave me the information I asked for. I failed to indicate that was important to me - I didn't specify I wanted a specific kind of sandwich. On the other hand, if they're a taco place (one that doesn't also sell tortes), then you gave me bad information. Same if they're a pizza place or a trendy poptart bakery. None of those things are sandwiches under common vernacular, which means if you call them sandwiches, you are wrong.

>>53017930
The BLT, the sub and the chip butty are sandwiches. Everything else on that list is not a sandwich.

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>>53017930
The only difference between the bread used in a sub and the bread used for a hotdog is the fact that the bread is cut all the way through in one.

>>53020227

What about the parfait? The ingredients are sandwiched, but it is not a sandwich itself. And you'd be hard pressed to make it into a san-

wait.

Parfait ice cream sandwich! Why has no-one made this a thing yet?!

>>53041765
why would you cut all the way in either case?

you've either been making subs wrong or hotdogs wrong, anon

>>53041886
Subs aren't one piece, what are you talking about?

>>53020227
What is soup?

You're dumb.

>>53043844
Soup can definitely be used as a sandwich ingredient, just not in very large quantities.

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>>53017930

>>53043889
Yeah, and you can shit between two pieces of bread or shovel gravel between bread. Are shit and gravel sandwich ingredients all of a sudden now?

>>53044499

Ever been to White Castle?

>>53044631
No, I don't live in burgerland and I make my own food, it's not my fault that the USA doesn't have real food.

>>53044499
>In the world of food,
Soup is food while shit and gravel aren't. Don't try moving the goalposts.

>>53044310
>Normal people sandwich
I'm calling the paladins.

>>53044754
Then please explain how soup is a sandwich ingredient. I can stretch my imagination enough to see shit between a sandwich while there is absolutely no way to use soup as a sandwich ingredient. Having a piece of soup-soaked bread is not a fucking sandwich.

>>53032734
>He believes in rock 'n roll
Can music save your mortal soul?

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>>53029745
here, you need this image.

>>53017930
SN, IP example is a little odd. Subs are absolutely sandwiches and I'm not sure I've ever met someone who would argue otherwise.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine_sandwich

>>53045074
The main argument is that it's Structure Neutral in that it is technically in a bun rather than two slices of bread.

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>>53038029

2/10 instructions.

I had to be life lighted to a hospital when you said 'swallow the sandwich' and you didn't specify to swallow the bit I'd chewed and not the whole thing still in my hands.

I'm afraid you aren't cut out to educate the retarded, you'll have to go back to your day job making several times more than a special ed teacher.

>>53020851

(USER WAS BANNED FOR CRIME AGAINST HUGE MANATEE)

>>53045604
Got me there, and you also revealed my devilish plot to rid america of retards. Damn you!

>>53045604
>Not unhinging your jaw and cramming the whole thing down your gullet like a boiled egg

I don't even taste my sandwiches, they go down so fast.

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this thread.

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>>53022414

>>53020162
That makes me think of a hotdog made by a college student.

>>53032179
There's no way I'm eating that with my hands, which by the way should be a cualifier

>>53020401
You and me, only anon.
Delicious indulgent SPIR
and you>>53020488
and you >>53035228

not you though, spagetti is only great when it's top notch made >>53029454

>>53030375 >>53032426

beatifual
the best sandwich here >>53035454

>>53038029
Help I got to step 5 and now my finger is gone.