Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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Honoured Etherial, would you like to come to our concert? We're a new punk band called the Crisis Sluts! Free entry for our treasured Aun, of course.

my dudes > your dudes

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Old thread got nuked it seems. Well...

For all the guys asking in the thread before it got nuked, this is from "Warhammer Underworlds: Shadespire", not sure if it's out yet though.

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First for plastic sisters of battle

Fighting TAU just got suuuuper painful....


Oh god.
I just realized.
Tau can overwatch my fucking tanks now!
NO MORE TANK SHOCKING MELTA CRISES OFF THE TABLE!

Why do all of you retards not understand the difference between:

• Within X"
• At X"

If you are at X" from something, you are NOT within X" of it.

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>>53001728 (Cross-thread)
Is this the reason they'll never make Gue'vesa that's not "Imperial Guard but Tau".
>>53002967 (Cross-thread)
>Reminded of Gunthar and Arex.
FUUUUUUUCK.

>>53003431
Deleted it as I CBA to get 120 notifications from bitches salty about melee.

>>53003457
Because /40kg/ is inherently challenged by language.

>>53003422

The fuck even is a "blacked"? Do you just hate black people so much that their mere appearance in an advert is comedy to you?

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Which book will you get first?

>>53003468
But melee is too hard for little Timmy to fight with his new Ultra UltraSigmarines, and ensuring little Timmy has fun with his new toys is the most important thing.

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Are 3 Units in checkerboard formation unbeatable now ????

>>53003431
Thanks mate. That model combines my two fetishes. Chicks in armor and buff chicks.

Are you all ready for your existing Space Marinelet armies to get treated like 3rd rate also ran armies in favor of the Numarines?

Are you ready for all your Xenos factions to get lumped into one book and barely get updates because they don't sell enough to justify making new models in plastic?

Are you ready for MAXIMUM casualization of the rules to get more little Timmy's through their demo games and sell them an army of NuMarines?

Then Age of Gulliman is for you!

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>>53003512

>Haha! Races! I am a wit!

>>53003512
>being a drooling retard
>>53003489
BLACKED is a porn site devoted to interracial porn

>>53003435
>First for plastic sisters of battle

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHA. NOT A FOOKIN CHANCE.

>>53003546
Holy shit.

>Sons of Gulliman are the most focused on faction
>Chaos will only get Death Guard and then World Eaters, Khorne Daemonkin 2.0, Sons of Khorne and more Khorne shit
>Xenos will be forgotten and no one gives a fuck about them

>>53003509
No

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>>53003414

>Crisis sluts

>>53003422
Reminder, The design studio has utterly despised all of the following for multiple editions:

- Tyranids
- Orks
- Chaos Space Marines
- Dark Eldar
- Assault
- Competitive play

And has spent 2+ editions making them worse at every opportunity. Why would you expect any of this to change? How many times will you have to get slapped around before you admit the reality of the situation?

>>53003422
Go back to pol scumfuc

>>53003546
I just ordered £60 worth of Warmachine models.

You have no IDEA how ready I am for an actually balanced, engaging game with much less developer bias.

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You guys are all going to feel real fucking stupid tomorrow when it turns out that Assault armies are going to absolutely butcher most others. Remember that a failed Morale test now results in extra casualties (based on how many you lost by), not a fall-back move.

>>53003701
Lol I play competitive warmachine and this is the worst time ever to pick the game.
Its more imbalanced than it ever was

>>53003701
Probably shouldn't have picked Warmachine, then

Did Pathfinders models get changed in the big Tau update, and if so, what's the difference between the new and old box?

I don't wanna buy the old ones on accident if there's a difference.

>>53003628
>charger always hits first
>variable movement speed
>99.99% of 1" added to all charge distances

For melee armies it's not all good but it's not all bad.

>>53003701
>playing Warmashit

>>53003468
But the guys in melee can also shoot their pistols at the closet unit while in close combat.

Y'know what would have been a much better change for Over watch? Making it so you could only Overwatch with pistols.

Maybe throw Tau a bone by having Pulse Carbines count as pistols for that, since nobody takes them anyway and they're designed for close quarters

>>53003701
>You have no IDEA how ready I am for an actually balanced, engaging game with much less developer bias.
>Warmachine

You have fucked up now

Should've picked Star Wars Armada instead (avoid X-Wing at all costs however)

>>53003749
I think its the same kit and sprue. Its Fire warrior that got the bit changes

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This is an idea I had for muh homebrew chapter fluff.
A bullpup bolter with an integrated, not just attached/underslung, chainsword used by Assault Marines of my tacticool ranged SM.
>longer barrel for additional power at point blank range, before the bolter jets kick in
>chainsword for dispatching weaker enemies, cutting up huge Xenos and it's better than just a bolter if they are caught by surprise
>the unique ergonomics and balance redistribution allow for easy one hand firing if need be
>mostly I just like bullpups

Any thoughts on my shitty sketch or the idea itself?

>>53003715
>Charge unit
>Either you wipe it out, finish it off through Battleshock, or it moonwalks out of close combat in the opponent's turn
>Assaulting unit gets shot to death by opponent's army

There's no way to hide in close combat any more. Shooting units can happily deploy a screen of chaff to take initial charges, then regardless of if they're wiped, break, or just fall back, the meat of the army can mow the attacking units down.

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>>53003772
>Maybe throw Tau a bone

>>53003772
Overwatch is thematic. What percent of 40k art consists of something comparable to overwatching a charging unit? It's like half.

>>53003628
>Unlimited overwatch
Overwatch is worse now because you actually get armor saves against infantry guns.

>>53003749
Well the old pathfinders are metal and the new ones are plastic. So if you buy plastic you're not going wrong.

>>53003435
We might get female marines and plastic Hrud before that.

Now we just hope that at least Assault can happen out of a deepstrike or transport

Can you guys please stop talking about Overwatch? Fucking Blizzdrones and your stupid Mobashooter trash.

>>53003435

What emotion are those expressionless faces on the sisters suppose to convey?

>>53003847
The emotion of 「かわいいですね?」

>>53003749
>99.99% of 1" added to all charge distances
But that's wrong. Even if, as we discussed in the last thread, the within is strictly true rather than weakly true that means that you would get 1" - ε.

>>53003764
>sweeping advance
Did you come straight from fourth to eight edition?

>>53003579
Just think about this for a second. Space Marines are the golden goose for Gw. Without them, and their sales, GW would literally have ceased to exist already. (I'm not kidding, the numbers released during the Chapterhouse Studios lawsuit showed the tactical marine box outselling entire other armies).

For Games Workshop to literally risk killing the golden goose by alienating Space Marine players with the introduction of super space marines is actually a bit worrying. Either they are truly desperate or they have simply concluded that there is literally no limit to how much they can cuck their players, and they believe they can get a significant proportion of their playerbase to rebuy their entire SM armies in Numarines.

Now consider that it is in GW's financial interest to only produce new kits in plastic that will sell in large volumes, and you can foresee that they will probably minimize their investment into Xenos armies because they can make a far better return on investment on Numarine kits or Chaos Numarine kits than on re-doing any of the old Xenos armies.

You can expect GW to minimize their investment into new model kits for anything but the most popular armies and just update their rules and keep selling the old models instead. That's far cheaper for them since their rules staff is literally 5 college interns making minimum wage + Jervis now.

>>53003808
>completely take away overwatch from the army that focuses on overwatch
>give them a little back i guess
>UGHHH BUFFING TAU SELECTIVE READING

>>53003900
>GW takes a creative risk with the space marines factions
>/tg/ finds a way to turn this into a bad thing

>>53003932
It's okay, we've all stopped playing by now anyway. Time to look for a new game, I guess.

>>53003954
The creative risk being? Bigger marines?

Creative risk would be releasing plastic SoB or a non human army like Hrud or another plague like xeno

>>53003909
Someone needs to photoshop that ultra nigger in his place.

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>>53003954

>yes gue'la! rebuy your entire space marine collection! good gue'la!

>>53003998
The creative risk being alienating the owners of their most popular army?

>>53003435
Why isn't the hipster shaved sides haircut standard Sisters canon by now? This is the biggest reason they need new models, damnit.

so do the new charge rules mean you get to move your charge distance even if you don't make it? Like, if I need to charge 7 and only roll 5, can I move 5 inches towards my target?

>>53003932

I'll reserve judgement until we see how the fight subphase works.

I can't really see them shitting on Nids any longer. I want them to make a come back, because I'm sick of fighting fucking Tau, Eldar and Space Marines.

>>53004043
New models for the popular army. That doesn't eliminate the previous models.

Yah right. If it is marines it is not risky, it is like releasing a shooter with a different skin.

Does anyone know where I can get a pdf of dead men walking? I've searched google and the megas but haven't found anything.

>>53004053
Seems like it. It does remove those weird cases where your chargers will run 11 inches, decide it's too far, then run back.

It also might result in cases where you're caught in the open after a failed charge though

>>53003680
Never forget that now even /tv/ is saying that /pol/ is always right.

>>53003932
it's okay we are used to being buttraped by GW

>>53004062
I wanna pet that cheetah

Reminder that every 2D6 roll we've learned about so far would be better houseruled to 1D6

>Psychic powers as (D6 + mastery level - spell level), perils on total result of 1 or lower, passes on 4+
>Charge distance as movestat + D6 inches

Man, i almost feel sorry for melee armies.
Nah, they can eat a bag of dicks.
Can't wait till i can blast my dumb friend chaos demons with my viable imperial guard. How do you like aoslike summoning you dumb faggot?

>>53004159
You sound like an absolute delight to play against.

>>53004151
When in doubt, throw two dice at it and call it fixed.

So let's recap, if you play an assault army

you get shot until you are in charge range
get shot when you charge
get shot in combat by pistols
get shot on your opponents turn when they withdraw their engaged unit

all for a measly one turn of close combat attacks against the enemy.

>>53004062
When you pretend to be retarded, the retards come to think they're in good company

>>53004227

Based GW making plasma pistols viable

>>53004227
GW has spent 2+ editions showing you at literally every opportunity that they hate assault armies and want to nerf them out of existence.

Don't act surprised now. This is the future you chose.

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>>53004269
and just when I started making an ork army

>>53004227
>you get shot until you are in charge range

Isn't new.

>get shot when you charge

Isn't new.

>get shot in combat by pistols

This is effectively not new, because it almost certainly replaces the extra melee attack for pistol + CC.

>get shot on your opponents turn when they withdraw their engaged unit

As opposed to getting shot on your opponents turn when the unit you charged are all dead or failed leadership from all dying.

>>53004227
>Fall back in the movement phase
>Still somehow locked in close combat to shoot with pistols
>One round of attacks

???

>>53003431
Well finally. I mean GW themselves puked out the fluff that all smegmarines are recruited from all races and genders before being brainwashed and put into OC doughnutsteel armour. That they then proceeded to only make big, muscular, bland, whitewashed models for then was just pathethic. If stigmarines had troops in all the shapes and sizes of the warhammer world upon reveal I might have actually liked them a little.

>>53004293
>most fun conversions possible for dioramas/units
>worst army to play
you know what to do.

>>53003792
Give it downsides aside from manufacturing difficulties.

>>53004227
Yep. That's pretty much it, from what we know. I always liked how tar pitting was a viable strategy, but that's gone now.

Who knows. Maybe this will be better?

>>53004300

They never said sigmarines are recruited from all races. It's always been only humans.

>>53004192
Im still salty. I haven't won with guard in ages. I started collecting SM just to beat him and still i can't. You kill his unit, he summons one more. Flying iron arm nurgle DP, tetrad, 30 warpcharges. Every time he casts D weapon he rolls 6 and laughs after destoying my knight, his knight is always in 2++.
>>53004277
Well, i'm still playing.

>>53003512
Grow up.

>>53004298
okay, let me break it down for you even slower, since you need some remedial education

you get shot as you approach
you decide to charge and get shot
you charge into combat and get you one round of attacks since you go first
they attack back and also get to shoot with pistols

-----end turn-----

they withdraw from combat
the rest of their army shoots you

-----end turn-----

repeat

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>>53004309
>I'll try calling him a cuck, that's a good trick

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>No Conga Lines

On the other hand, are all current factions going to still be supported in 8th? And will my tiny faction get more units?

>>53004358
I have a feeling there won't be much "repeating" in that scenario, because your CC unit will be dead at this point.

>>53004358
>and also get to shoot with pistols

That only happens in the models' own shooting phase, not YOUR assault phase.

>>53004399
>are all current factions going to still be supported in 8th?
At least at the start, they promised new rules and eventually a codex for every already existing army.

>And will my tiny faction get more units?
Who know what will happen when it gets its own 8th edition codex ?

>>53004399
That feels like Consolidate Into Combat to me. My Infiltrators are going to have a field day, given there's a lot of Guard, Nids and Tau for them to bully.

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>>53004423
Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa. Still, that's a lot of shooting for a single round of attacks. Hopefully they'll put in some kind of sweeping advance that actually rewards assaulting players for destroying a unit on the charge, because as is the withdrawal mechanic on punishes them for failing to do so.

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>>53004399

>are all current factions going to still be supported in 8th?

Yes, this is stated on the Warhammer 40k website.

>>53004467
If the unit you're in CC with withdrawls they aren't allowed to shoot anything. If they stay in CC so they can fire their pistols the rest of the army isn't allowed to fire at your unit.

>>53004314
It's not for tabletop, it's just fluff and nothing else. So it doesn't really have to be balanced
I was mostly looking for any comments on the sketch

>>53004297
Except the pistols in melee is new, its during the shooting phase and has the strength of your pistol, this could make Melta pistols really mean, or Flamer pistols. Rather then just one more attack.

As for getting shot when you charge, thats new in the sense you cant charge one unit with two other units and force the enemy to choose which they want to try to soften, now the unit getting charged gets rapid reload skills and can shoot at every charging unit, which is quite different. I assume the tau rule regarding overwatch will be removed.

>>53004436
Neat. So Vulkan is the next primarch to return?

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its another
>shitposter spams laughing reddit cheetah memes while people spam unfunny black people edits
episode

>>53004526
Guess we gotta change tactics from "Charge with toughest unit first to tank the overwatch fire" to ""Charge with toughest unit first to tank the overwatch fire and make sure it reaches combat to prevent further overwatch fire at other units"

>>53004464
Sounds like playtesters are going through fan checklist. 2 wound termies check, assault from rhino check, consolidation into combat...?

>>53004547
>tfw schools out

>>53004547
And you encourage them by giving them the attention they desperately crave.

Just ignore them and discuss 40k.

>>53004613
...That actually explains everything.

>>53004436
VULKAN LIVES! *STOMP STOMP*

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>>53004547
Meanwhile the rest of us actually want to talk about 40k, and not have every thread derailed by retards.

>>53004457
Is it worth buying the thousand sons now? I have tons of Tzeentch from AoS and I wanna try out 8th 40k.

>>53004399
>conga line gunlines are going to be a really bad idea
Finally, I get to turn my melee fighters into the whirling blenders of death they were always meant to be

>>53004524
I meant for fluff, it's not cool to me when someone creates a new pattern of weapon that's just better for no reason. As for the sketch, I know nothing about guns or bullpup design but based on the Steyr AUG the grip and the forward grip are too close together, maybe elongate it and have the magazine receiver further back and space out the grip and the forward grip. On a drawing level the sketch is fine for a concept.

>>53004399
Consolidating into combat, perhaps?

>inb4 falling back means your unit can immediately charge something else, but not have attacks take place unit the assault phase
>enemy has to decide if that squad is more valuable than another you'd charge
>could potentially make a big display by falling back unit after unit as your guys scream across the field, leaving cowering squads in their wake

>>53004513
why would they ever not withdraw? Guard, Tau, some (D)Eldar, or any other gun line army will gain so much from being able to withdraw and there is no benefit to an assaulting army other than the withdrawing unit being unable to do anything else that turn, but since shooty armies suck in cc they weren't going to be doing anything in cc anyway.

Why don't you retards just report these two?

>>53004669
>why would they ever not withdraw?
They could be trying to hold the assaulting squad in place. But you're right, most of the time it's a better idea for guardsmen to run away when they get charged by a hive tyrant

>>53004646
More then ever, I mean they got proper plastic models very recently so they'll probably the last army that gets squatted.

>>53004467
see >>53004399

>>53004573
Except you declare charging, overwatch is done in the charge phase once a charge is declared then you move. You declare all your charges at a same time. ( currently) So you cant really do either of the things you listed as effective strategies unless they change when you overwatch (charging before overwatch doesn't make sense because you may lose units to overwatch placing you out of range. )

>>53004754
avatarfagging is against the rules

>>53004669

I think withdrawing is going to make sense most of the time - however in the absence of seeing scenarios and what options a unit that has been withdrawn from its hard to judge.

>>53004770
Yeah, like if your squad has objective secured and the assaulting unit doesn't, and you're fighting ontop of an objective

>>53004759
Like the mods give a fuck. Only if you post the n word or Vietnamese the ban hammer shows up. Even using the report feature got me a ban

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>>53004457
>>53004480
You can understand my trepidation if I say the faction I use is one from Imperial Agents.

>>53003489
You sir are an idiot, if you don't notice the sjw and race mix in GW pics as of recent you should check your nose for being big and hooked.

Last thing honestly we want in the 40k community is black kids with sticky fingers.

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I'm doing a 999pt. Planetstrike match as a defender against grey knights/guards this weekend - how retarded is my list?

>>53004813
You know, people might (unlikely, but still) take you more seriously if you knew basic english grammar.

>>53004825
It is avatarfagging. You're cheetafag. Everyone knows you because you avatarfag.

>>53004811
Nope they're all supported.

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>>53004674
>>53004692
simply epic

Here (you) go
on the house my treat for a thread well ruined

Was not expecting the fan base reaction to go from "moderately optimistic" to "salty as fuck" so damn quickly. On the bright side the "Free online rules" aspect of the game means GW could realize this mistake and backpedal in edition 8.1.

>>53004857
Gotta keep it simple for our blacked sympathizers.

>>53004547
Just report and hide amd never reply. If you don't reply then they can't keep responding with their shitposts.

>>53004916
When will they post rules next time?

>>53004645
Holy shit I remember the shoop of that when the Guilliman model was released. Looks fucking brilliant.

>>53004916

Why would they? AoS has been doing very well with even simpler rules than what they've previewed for 8th. Additionally (and I grant this is very anecdotal) but in the 3 events I've been to since they started previewing I've run into largely competitive players who are excited for the launch.

>>53004916
I think its because people were expecting Falling Back into a gun line to replace Over watch as the method to punish charges

>>53004916
There's no reason to be salty as fuck considering we haven't seen all the rules. Anyone whining is being an alarmist. Like they said, just knowing the assault info makes people concerned about assault armies taking a hit, but the info they're revealing tomorrow about the fight phase says stacking gunlines close together will be a horrible idea.

>>53004857
Realize what site your on, also realize you've never seen a dindu play 40k. It's purposely priced to keep the trash out of it.
My hobby isn't basketball or rap, I want to spend my afternoon gaming not keeping an eye on my stuff to make sure it's still there.

>>53004964
Yes. I admit that was my idea. They claim tomorrow we will know something about the conga-line strategy, yet the charge aspect, as of now, it's not the best change i've seen.

>>53004966
Actually I have, there was one at my local GW last saturday, he played Deathwatch.

>>53004916
Basically this >>53004958

They are keeping the worst parts of 7th

>>53004981
Well sorry about your luck buddy, time to build a table for home.

>>53005008
Honestly I'd be more likely to do that if you were at my store.

>>53004958
Why? I mean, it makes sense that a squad of people with guns would take shots at a squad of people charging at them with swords.

>>53004978

A) How often has OW actually affected your game play? In the entire time I've played 7th I've had OW sway maybe a handful of games in any capacity.

B) They actually make charging easier because of the only needing to get within 1" rule - it is a fairly sizeable shift in probability for making charges, especially for shorter to mid range charges.

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"Latest rumors building on yesterday’s set say look for this:
>Initial pre-orders June 3rd, or June 17th (conflicting info)
Ultramarines vs Death Guard $120
Chaos Cultists
Death Guard Plague Marines
Death Guard Terminators
Chaos Lord
Nurgle Drones
Mairne Tactical Squads
Assault squad
Devastator Squad
Librarian
Captain

Gameplay accessories (dice, tokens etc…)
Rulebook (softcover)
Campaign book w/missions"

Welp, I hope that Daemons/Marines armies will be a thing in 8e

>>53005017
Poor judgement, you must be another shitty minority that hates on whitey but wants all our stuff.

>>53005054
1/6 with 10 shots was enough to dick over a charge in 7th. Since almost every 5 man squad could puke at least 5 shots it was more than enough to screw you over at once in the game.

>>53005078
>Nurgle Drones
What unit is this? surely there is no way you get a unit of the Daemon plague fly riders randomly fighting among a CSM army.

Why everyone shitting themselves about numarines when they'll most likely be elite unites?

>>53004526
Assuming the +1 attack from a pistol counting as an extra weapon is gone, it's a buff if you have pistols but no other combat weapon, or if your pistol is a lot better than your CC attack. Otherwise you're trading 1 attack in each player's turn for 1 shot in your turn.

>>53005040
It also makes sense that a throw grenade might get blown off course by the wins and roll onto a more dense or loosely packed group of enemies, but they got rid of templates.

At the very least, they didn't need to allow for unlimited uses of Overwatch.

Now you could have 20 squads of 5 guardsmen charge into a squad with some flamers, and they'll suddenly turn into a whirling omnidirectional inferno with unlimited ammo

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>>53005110
Probably pic related. Yeah, I know it's a FW

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>Daemonkin and Scions removed in 8th
>implying

Post a source or eat 5 dicks

>>53005078
I'm hesitant because that is significantly more miniatures than previous box sets (at least AoBR and DV)

>>53005138

Don't do that and instead charge with a large enough or durable enough squad to absorb the OW and then finish your charges.

>>53005090

I guess its the difference in being good and being bad. A unit of 5 guys with 10 shots will kill 1 model sometimes. As long as you aren't making your charges by 1 model you're fine - just plan your charges and account for a casualty.

>>53005110
Why

>>53003900
The problem comes when everyone is marines, and nobody is xenos. Balance increases, but variety and interest plummets. If gw thought 40k could be marine vs marine and somehow be interesting enough to be followed for 30 years, they would have done so long ago.

Without the neglected "other armies" nobody would bother to play this shit.

>>53004981
I've only had bad experiences with them. I live in Europe, mind you, and the bored sons of the neighborhood always came to the store acting like they were interested in the games but they were actually trying to steal magic cards and miniatures while screaming and putting their hands in their mouths.When the store manager eventually got pissed off the nigros were dropping their spawn at the store because "it had many toys" and they could spend the afternoon with "friends", but of course when told the situation they went all "dey dindu nuthing they little kids they be playin".

Another time, arabs were always coming to act tough when someone from the store went outside to smoke. I usually joined them because they were the old guys who told me about lore and they were nice with us, so shitskins coming to call everyone fat and telling them to give them cigarettes scared me.

Im racist since i've been 12 thanks to this happenings. Thanks for reading my blogpost.

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>>53005176
Well, AoS Spire of Dawn has 74 minis and costs less than Start Collecting box. I know it's just a repack of old set but still

>>53005203
Well 30k is a thing though. Though I do agree that a whole lot less people play the game if it is just marines vs marines.

>>53005181
Anon for that you need to survive two rounds of shooting assuming you went first, it was usually 3 rounds of shooting.

So those silly 1 model charges where needed for Melee armies that could not Alpha strike turn one or had some reliable way to get there without getting shot for 2-3 turns.

I play gunline from time to time and it was sad to see Melee

>>53005181
>Hey, doing this makes the rules nonsensical
>Well don't do that!

Helpful input, but that means its literally impossible for a squad to be distracted so that they shoot one squad running at them but not the one creeping up behind

>>53005226
Maybe it will not be this bad, Anon http://www.strawpoll.me/12871510/r

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>>53003792
There are already legitimate versions, asrial carries one.

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>>53004945
Hey im the guy who made that photoshop. The model you responded to isnt mine, this one is mine.

>>53003806
HAHA time for kroot!

>>53003828
>Assault can happen out of a deepstrike
you take your shit opinions and leave forever.

>>53005312
No, fuck you, watching assault marines stagger around in a drunken stupor after deepstriking is fucking retarded.

>>53005312
Thanks for putting yourself Tau player.

I want my Warptalons to be useful dammit.

>>53005295
Looks damn good m8. Surprises me how much better the model looks just from having something to cover the fucked groin area.

>>53005312
Give one good reason to restrict it now that any squad can walk away from combat, and you can't use an argument that would also apply to a deep-striking unit shooting you with powerful guns

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>>53004524
>>53003792
>I was mostly looking for any comments on the sketch
Reminds me of a more sensible version of Azrael's Combi-Plasma. Just replace the actual plasmagun part with a chainblade and you pretty much have your sketch.
As for whether it works, I'd say it's fluffy enough to not get you too bitched-out. Chain blades have been around since rogue trader and bullpup weapons do exist in-universe. Just fluff it like "the weapons are supplied by a near-by forgeworld, one known for their strange STC patterns" or something.

>>53004227
Charge with 30 slugga boyz, manage to kill 8 marines to 3 boyz deaths. Marines fall back in front of 5 devastators, everyone kills 15 more orks. 12 ork sluggas then gun down last 2 remaining marines, and charge devastators.

Nothing has said you cant shoot one thing then charge another. Would THIS balance it more?

Looks like you idiots are going to have to bring multiple assault units and force several fall-backs. No more netlisting a deathstar that can sweeping advance the whole board.

>>53005078

Based GW trying to clear their inventory of Marinelets kits before the Numarine purge

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>>53005434
But Anon, they are putting the NuMarines nad new DG models in this box

>>53005416
I'm under the impression the marines immediately get shot by the orkz once they fall back but I could be wrong.

>>53005397
>that pic

Alright armory-serfs, listen up, the Chapter Master wants you to build him a plasmagun. A plasmagun with an overslung, single-shot boltgun....you heard me.

Also, he wants you to install a slot at the back where he can store spare bolter mags. Don't ask why, just do it, he's the Chapter Master.

>>53004645
Wheres that power claw from?

>>53004227
Is it even worth playing anymore if I main Orks? I have had several frusterating games recently and I had really high hopes for 8th but all this just makes me really sad. Unless Orks get a good codex (which they probably won't) I may just wait till 9th for better luck or just play Shadow War.

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>>53005416
>Marines fall back in front of 5 devastators, everyone kills 15 more orks.
Can't shoot the turn you fall back, if that's what you're implying.

>Nothing has said you cant shoot one thing then charge another.
You can, at least in this 7e. As long as the target you shot gets wiped, you can charge another one.

>>53005528
Brother-Captain! The Techmarines have uncovered a weapon even predating the Dark Age of Technology! Even they cannot fathom the depths of it's technological mysticism.
Should we hand this over to the Mechanicus for further study?

>>53005248
30k is full of elitists though, and if you even show up with plastic in your army they snub you and turn their noses up. "its a balanced game" no shit, its one whole type of army with bland differences and 2 other armies nobody plays because its about 3x as much cash. Have literally never seen a 30k guard army. 40k would tank in a year if they suddenly stopped supporting other armies other than the token launch rules.

>>53003431
>fits the lore
>enough boob plate and figure to show its female but not enough to look ridiculous
>classy and somehow still slightly attractive despite literally no skin showing
>still heavily armored and badass looking
idk what there is to be mad about most people autism is worried about it fitting the lore and not there being a plurality of gender in factions that allow it in the fluff

>>53005528
What do you mean "It can't work this way", brother Techmarine? I have the wisdom and tactical acumen of the Lion, I know exactly what I want!

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>>53005602
>still slightly attractive

okay /tg/
after getting enough digits God Emperor kek decides to bless you with a shonen level power boost of meme magic, you can use it to make one season of anime about 40k, it can either be in the lore or about the actual game and hobby, what do you do?

>>53004835
Is this a competitive list? Seems sort of rude for a casual game but sort of low-mid tier for a competitive game

>>53005628
You know exactly where you are, don't act surprised.

>>53005628
too much or not enough?

>>53005602
>classy
>slightly attractive
>badass looking
What the fuck man.

>>53005393
9 marine drop pods on turn one removing 3/4ths of your guard army in melee. "hur durr you should be meched up!" So adding deep strike charge should invalidate entire large playstyles. How about skitarii? You drop and cherry pick what you want to assault turn one, and I dont care how good their tanks are, they have already lost.

Or how about we play with objectives, except now your army cant go anywhere on the board because the fucking marines made a conga line of death, meanwhile their scouts run and sit on them all game.

Fuck your stupid ideas.

>>53005640
If The Emperor Had A Text-to-Speech Device: The Animation

>Yes I want to watch the world burn.

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>>53005640
>what do you do?
Use my blessing to erase this shitty le kek sad frog maymay from existence

>>53003422
how many threads anon, how many threads will you post this until the madness ends?

>>53005581
>You can, at least in this 7e. As long as the target you shot gets wiped, you can charge another one.
What? That's wrong.

>>53003258

for you

>>53005640
Romantic Comedy about a big brutish Ork school boy who falls in love with the cutest Eldar schoolgirl in the school.

>>53005678
>alfabusa won't let anyone but himself work on the animation
>draws every frame
>next episode comes out at the start of 9th edition right after berserk ends

>>53005682
Until MODS will ban him like a cheetahfag so something like a few months at least

>>53005640
How could someone choose something other than an anime remake of one of the older games with the FMV cutscenes?

Maybe just some generic 40k would be better though. Something entirely over-the-top that perfectly encapsulates the nature of the setting.

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>>53005490
>Plastic FW plague drones confirmed

BASED

>>53005581
>You can, at least in this 7e. As long as the target you shot gets wiped, you can charge another one.

Incorrect, and I hope you haven't been cheating your friends. If at TRANSPORT gets shot by that unit, you may charge the contents. You cannot shoot a unit to death, then charge another unless your name is super heavy/gargantuan and you targeted another unit or things like crisis suits with splitfire.

>>53005668
True. Drop pod assault should be nerfed or drop pod should cost at least 3x more.

>>53005718
I don't think so. Maybe it's just a marine not showed in teaser

>>53005285

Does Kharn have to repair the horns on his helmet after every fight?

>>53005640
Make an Imperial Navy version of that one TIE Fighter short film that looked somewhat anime like.

>>53005594
30k has the exact same issues as 40k though. I play it myself, and let me tell you in 30k you also have a handfull of units that are blatantly OP and often spammed, deathstars, and factions that are stronger than all others. Basically people only field marines because they need troops, the rest is just a vehicle cheesefest.

>>53005680
Go back to 1d4ddit

>>53005640
cute sakura kiss style anime between two sisters of battle who fall in love during their time in the schola progenium

because Girls love is the purest form of love according to the emperor himself

>>53005707
wait did cheetafag get banned?
>press 1 to pay respect to another kekistani lost in the meme wars

>>53005744
Khorn fixes them I'm sure
>as long as he gets enough skulls and blood

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>>53005640
>Mixing 40k with degenerate weeb aids

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>>53005640
KAPTIN BLUDDFLAGG AND HIS MERRY BAND OR PIRATES

>>53005816
>on a website created for discussing Chinese cartoons
i think you're on the wrong site friend, might i suggest reddit?

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>>53005795
Few times at least. It's funny when his posts are deleted - you can see that 50% of replies on his posts are his own

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>>53005816

I like the idea of the Praetorian Guard but look how shit the article is written on the wiki: http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Praetorian_Guard
who the fuck wrote this? a two year old? Grammar mistakes, repetitions, etc. I know they're isn't much source material but jesus.

>>53005872
>the year of our lord 2017
>not using superior lexicanum
ISHYGDDT

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>>53005872
>using wikia
>ever
lol

>>53005720
>>53005685
>You cannot shoot a unit to death, then charge another
That's the biggest load of shit I've ever heard. I actually had to check the rulebook and FAQ to make sure it's right (it is). I think I never even bothered looking it up in the first place since it's such a fucking common-sense you'd think that of course it'd work.
All I have to say is fucking WHY. Why does GW hate assault so fucking much.

>>53005795
looks like it, along with the blacked posts and the outrage at the blacked posts and arguments with cheta fag.... it's almost like they were all the same person shitting up the thread

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>>53005872

>reading the w40k.wikia that allows fandom entries

anyone in or near kassel germany? ill be there for about a month in june and wanna know if theres any good places to play 40k where i won't have to know kraut-speak, don't wanna miss out on 8th just because I'm vacationing

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>>53005911
I'm not cheetahfag, I'm a completely different poster altogether. I actually have several of cheetahfag's favorite images filtered because a while back I found his shit on walkers and vehicles annoying.

Also pretty sure the mods just did a mass purge so the anti-blacked posts were deleted too.

>>53005911
See >>53005856

>>53005828
This! It'll be grimdark onepeice and it'll be great!

>>53005930
SIND SIE EIN WAACFAG??!
SIND SIE EIN TAUFAG??

>>53005948
can we just take a moment to give respect to the mods for these past couple weeks, i think their invisible hand is whats keeping the 40k side of /tg/ from devolving into anarchy

>>53005910
Wait, you thought this game had rules that made sense? What did you think all the complaints about melee being shit were about?

>>53005975
Alas, some are still getting through

>>53005960
guard and crons, but who knows how much ill be able to pack and how much ill buy there of new shit
>tfw your pask is painted like a nazi tank commander and you just have to hope the german secret police don't drag you away if you play him

>>53005930
DER XENOS
KRIEGSANSTIFTER
KRIEGSVERLÄNGERER

>>53005984
More like have you even been playing the same game as the rest of us, lol

>>53003457
Sounds like you might be that guy, anon.

>>53005975
Blame "the new GW" for the blacked problem.
All of their imagery since the community site launched has been sjw/blacked approved. 300 pound girls with the normal white dudes, little blonde girls with little nignugs.

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>>53005900
>tfw you only hate weebs and anime

Guess I really dno't fit in anywhere after all ...

>>53003509
no

>>53005984
>>53006019
>More like have you even been playing the same game as the rest of us
Pretty much this. I've only played garage40k with a small group of friends. I don't play at my local FLGS at all.
My BA do just fine against 'nidz and Deldar, though they have some real trouble versus Harlies, SM, and Eldar.

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>>53006060
>frogposter
Yeah, you might be right

>base movement is 8"
>fly across the battlefield
>get ready to charge
>roll measly 2d6
>move 3"
>die

>>53006060
can we please tone down the white supremacist iconography?

>>53006045
Also don't forget the cringey tumblr art and that stupid Warhammer Community stock photo with all the colorful POC and landwhales all in one spot with the beta cuck white numales.

To be fair most of us here are beta cuck white males but the majority of us (I hope at least) don't have that obnoxious numale hipster look.

Will there be a tankshock/thunderblitz equivalent in the new edition?

>>53005668
>9 marine drop pods on turn one removing 3/4ths of your guard army in melee

vs

>9 marine drop pods on turn one removing 3/4ths of your guard army with shooting

>>53003494
Meh, gonna buy the Xenos book.

>>53006110
>weapon range is 18"
>get ready to shoot
>roll 1d6
>roll a 2
>miss and die

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>>53003414
>Crisis Sluts

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>>53006126
>don't have that obnoxious numale hipster look

>>53005640

Definitely a Yu-Gi-Oh style story about a Warhammer tournament taking over a city in comedically overdramatic fashion.

>>53006117
Nice false flag retard. Here is your (you)

>>53006129
well tanks now work like MCs so yes they will be able to charge, if its like the steam tank their "weapons" will be crushing you with their treads

>tfw ork vehicles become the best melee vehicles in the game

>>53006153
That's because he's a Tau player. I don't count Tau players as /40kg/ posters because that would require me to consider them human.

>>53006045
Remember, there are places outside of 4chan too. Just because a few thousand people here can't stop screaming "NIGGERDINDUDINDUGOYIMGOYIMOYVEY" doesn't mean the rest of the world is as retarded.

>>53004293
>get gibbed by bolt pistols
>b-but muh plasma

>>53005910
To be fair, the shooting phase is pretty neutered too, so more of your men should at least make it to combat. Think about it;
Marines in a crater? 2+ save
Scouts in ruins? 2+ save
Guardsmen behind an aegis? 2+ save
Centurions in cover? 2+ save against Ap-2 battle cannons!

>Assault marines taking fire from tau with the fire warrior squad they just routed between them and the rest of the army? 2+ save!

Feels like this will be the era of 2+/3+ saves for everyone, even from Autocannons and heavy bolters

>>53006180
>M-MUH /POL/
Why haven't you fucked off to 1d4ddit or Dicka Dicka already? You obviously don't like the demographic of the people posting here so go to somewhere where no one from here will follow you.

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>>53006126
>don't forget the cringey tumblr art
>when you are this insecure you have to make up an ideology around a piece of cartoon on site with plastic soldiers

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>>53006174
I like you.

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>okay /boyz/
>Gork or Mork?

>>53006045

Actually, I blame moot for not having the balls to leave the politics board removed, thus creating a rampant breeding ground for edgy teenage contrarians.

>>53006224
>when you think the art is actually kinda nice

>>53006126
Luckily enough we seem to have a sub 20% autistic/numale population at our GW.
Couple people you feel bad for and a couple you just don't really want around you.

There's a misconception about the 40k community and it gets lumped in with trading card games and other super beta communities.
Over a couple decades of wargames, majority of people I've met are pretty head on straight, normal lifestyles, (GFs, kids, wives, friends etc.).
It's like GW has the least clue about their user base out of everyone. There's not even room for fat people in the local GW here. Those living planets they have in the community picture would get stuck between the tables and the wall displays.

>>53006224
>muh preshus artwork pls don criticize
Look at that stupid fucking ork thinking or that awful Guardsman's face. Look at the fucking hands hot damn.

It's shitty fucking webcomic tier artwork and I'm going to call it out as shitty fucking webcomic tier artwork just like I call out the obvious racial bias in the stock photos.

Get fucked.

>>53004966
No black guys in my 40K group, but a ton of the MTG and Yugi-Oh players are minority teenagers. The store doesn't have any theft problems.

>>53006232
GORK'Z DA BEST

E'Z DA BIGGEST, 'ARDEST AND MOST CUNNIN'LY BRUTAL.

>>53006141
What about the rest of the squad? What about when the unit ends in that 18" range and you shoot it then it moves and you overwatch, then it fails it's charge and you shooting again, then it assaults you, fails to kill your unit, so you fall back and the rest your army shoots it?

>>53006245
why hasn't /pol/ been taken down?
is it because /b/ would just be full of "muh white genocide" threads?

>>53006174
>how to spot little timmy and HIS GUYS who got raped by riptides
It's fortunate that the Emperor is bound to the golden throne. If he saw your cowardice you'd be dead.

>>53006292

You ever seen a Yugioh playing nigga? Autistic as fuck usually

>>53006222
I'm completely fine with tg. I just don't like people who can't do anything but be special snowflakes who can't stop thinking about black men fucking their waifus the moment they see a black kid in an ad. If you want to do that, do it somewhere else, this here is the part of the board where you post about rolling some dice and painting your tiny plastic miniatures.

>>53006045
No, I'll blame the faggots who get so triggered they spam threads with shitposts about how GW is BLACKED and how tyrone bullys them at their FLGS.
I say this as an avid /pol/ack: keep /pol/ in /pol/.

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>>53005718
I swer if they cop out and just use the fantasy/daemons blight drones

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>>53006232
Mork iz for Mekkies
Gork iz for trve Goffs

>>53006300
yeah fortunately I'm a bit more optimistic so i don't just sit and play games of "what it- worst case scenario edition"

>>53006180
Sorry to break it too you, but you're on 4chan now.
And outside here people still look down on people that are more than double acceptable size, as well as sticky fingered black kids.

>>53006153
I want to punch this guy in the face. His OW would probably kill me though if I were honest though.

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>so far the only things that have changed in the charge and melee phases are buffs to shooting

That tiny soark of hope that I had been nursing, gone in an instant

>>53006302
>why hasn't /pol/ been taken down?

Why should it be?

>>53006232
You soddin' touched in da head?
Gork of corse!
No Ork worth 'is gut would evah follow a soddin' pathetic bastard who gotta apply that much blue just to go on with 'is day.

>>53006321
you ever seen anyone playing yugioh? autistic as fuck usually

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>>53006291
>Being this triggered with a shitty piece of cartoon

>>53006232
Mork! E's Brutally Kunnin'!

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>>53004043
>hipster shaved sides
You and anyone who likes that repulsive haircut needs to be fed to a vore addicted haemonculus

>>53006302

Why hasn't/tg/ been taken down? Is it because /b/ would be flooded with 40K and DnD threads?

>>53006324
GW brought pol to 40k, hate to break it to you.
They decided with the new GW they want to pander to an audience that isn't representative of the actual community that pays their bills.

>>53006224
I really like these drawings.

>>53004645
It's not our fault that the only people left who play this shitpile of a game are such cucks that they cry at not having a safe space to discuss their wallets getting BLACKED by GW.

>>53006353

You can post in this thread and say that unironically? It's impossible to go five minutes without encountering virulent, politically charged racism on any board on 4chan now, because /pol/ has grown so massively. I'm sick of seeing agenda-driven politics on every board.

It's too late to do it now, of course, which is why moot should have done it when he killed /new/.

>>53004857
>You know, people might (unlikely, but still) take you more seriously if you knew basic english grammar.

It's called "Playing the other side"
Just a redditor pretending to polshitter. Ignore them all.

>>53006361

True, just saying, the sort of black people attracted to Yugioh aren't likely to be the sort to rob the game store

>>53006219
>implying guardmen behind an aegis won't just be a 4+

I don't know why people get butthurt over the new GW changes, just stop reading the new stuff. The rules will be a free download and then take all your background material from 1st to 7th edition.

Makes life a lot easier as well since you don't have to keep abreast of new releases.

>>53006245
>>53006302
First you faggots complain about /pol/ not doing its job as a containment board, then you say it should be removed? Do you see how much fucking cognitive dissonance you're generating through your stupidity?

Also
>I DON'T LIKE THESE OPINIONS THEREFORE THEY CAN'T BE DISCUSSED
Nice

>>53006322
>stop making jokes that are inherently relevant to this thread because I don't like them
How many times will I have to repeat the same arguments again and again until it gets through your fucking skull?

GW is trying to appeal to the Tumblr lefty progressive audience that literally almost never buys their shit. That's why the fat landwhales are paired with the white men while the black kid gets the thin and vaguely attractive blonde white girl. Wanna scream racism? Fine, why are there no black women at all?

The propaganda is so fucking painfully obvious you'd have to be in denial to not see it.

>>53006324
Once per thread is spamming? Fucking off yourself you stupid "fellow nahtzees" retard.

>>53006364
Good argument

>>53006415
>RAYCISM
>TOXIC AND UNSAFE TO THIS COMMUNITY
Do I need to spell out who you sound like?

>>53006389
>Females are not a part of community meme
Well, then fuck me but 40% of my group are females. Like real females, not "I have a dick in pants but vagina in my brain" females. Maybe the problem is with you, not with GW?

>>53006431
wait anon... are you saying... black people aren't a monolith?

>>53006415

>virulent, politically charged racism

Gr8 b8 m8

Salamanders should hang from trees

>>53006452
>Maybe you should provide the shadow of a proof ?

>>53006433
It'll be at least a 3+. Otherwise the Aegis won't be worth the points.

>>53006449
Surely you realize that only an ideologically committed racist like yourself will give the presence of a black kid a second thought.

Are you, dare I say, triggered by it?

>>53004645
Literally makes me want to convert that model and field an army of Custodes as the big beefy units and Sisters of Silence as the rank and file. Emperor's back and he's fucking pissed!

How viable would such an army be, actually?

>>53006465
>>53006449
>>53006386
>>53006353

literally just posted that to see how many /pol/ roaches that were lurking i could trigger by threatening their safe space

>>53006476
>Aegis lines being points based
>Terrain existing at all bar a +1 if you're obscured.
You have better expectations than I.

>>53006333
I was 100% optimistic until today. Even a unit with an 8" move is going to get shot to shit before it has a chance to reach melee.

>move into 24" shooting range
>get shot
>move 8" and run
>they move 6" back and shoot
>move 8" forward and run
>they rapid fire
>you move and attempte to charge with what's left

>>53006232
MORK'Z DA ONE FER ME. 'E'Z BRUTALLY CUNNIN' AN' 'E'Z DA BEST AT BEIN DED SNEAKY LOIK. I'Z LOIKIN 'IM CAUSE 'E'Z ROIGHT PROPPA CLEVVA TOO.

>>53006415
>You can post in this thread and say that unironically?

Because it takes two to tango, fucko.
Some guy posting BLACKED isn't a big deal, it doesn't offend me, it doesn't hurt anyone.
All it does is signal that there's a guy willing to go full /pol/.

It's guys like you who decide, every thread, to pick his dick up off the table and jerk him off while looking him straight in the eye.

/pol/ would mostly stay on /pol/ if it weren't for normie retards like you getting angry at /pol/.

>>53006449
Nobody here cares. People who are sick of /pol/ posting are SJW leftists out to oppress you. They're people who want you to go discuss this on the board where it belongs.

Or hell, start up your own thread complaining about blacks in 40k. Just as long as you aren't spamming the general while people tell you to leave

>>53004916
>Implying Jervis hasn't spent 2+ editions viciously doubling down on every change the playerbase rejects.

LMAO

>>53006452
Noone is complaining about females retard, the complaint is people 300+% overweight.
I'd like to be able to move around in my GW store on the weekend not get sucked into someone's gravitational pull.

>>53006449
>being this ass blasted over nothing

I want SJWs princesses to leave.

>>53006495

>I was trying to be retarded the whole time!

We know

>>53006503

>i-it's not being triggered when it's me flying off the handle about racial inclusion instead of them

Sure thing, snowflake. Sorry they threatened your safe space.

You also realize that reddit is one of the biggest sources of new /pol/ posters, I'm sure.

>>53006495
>i...i was j-j-j-just pretending to be a r-r-retard!

>>53006529
>Noone is complaining about females retard, the complaint is people 300+% overweight
Is that a GW fault?

>>53006347
Looking at the few ranged weapon profiles that have been leaked shooting has been heavilly nerfed though. From the looks of it Meganobz standing in terrain are gonna have a 2+ armoursave against goddamn lascannons.

>>53006524

We can thank that arsehole for age of smeg.

He has a real stick up his arse about anyone who doesn't want to spend 5 hours at the start of every game balancing their forces themselves instead of... oh I don't know, having an enormous company that makes millions provide us with some guidance.

>>53006524

He's still ass blasted that no one loved his era of giving every special character the master-crafted rule and calling it a day.

>>53006518
im gonna pull a plebbit and say THIS
if no-one would take the bait the people spreading b8 would get board and leave, one autist though jumps in and decides he's gonna set some (((/pol/-fag))) straight, seriously, just fucking ignore these faggots, especially when they are trying to talk about their own little political crusade that really has basically nothing to do with 40k

>>53006368
Yes please!

>>53006512
Assuming an 8" movement with you starting at 24", you could end up moving i, advancing 6, and running 12 for a total of 26 inches.

Granted, that's not very likely unless you have some bonus to run or charge moves.

Even if you run only 3 inches though and end up 13 away so you can't even try a charge, that puts you at 19 for the next turn when they fall back, meaning that you need a total of 11 for your d6 advance and 2d6 charge.

And that's not accounting that you need 1 less inch than normal.

It shouldn't take you more than 2 turns to close the gap in this case.

>>53006567
thats literally just the lascannon we've seen. The lascannon isnt even a good gun right now. We have yet to see profiles for the good shit

>>53006536
>red faced from taking b8 this hard
>n-no you're stupid baka anon!

>>53006586
Not every retard who respond to this idiots will read your post or your warning.

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>mfw 7e was so terrible that people prefer to take obvious troll baits than talk about this shitty edition

>>53006389
>GW brought pol to 40k, hate to break it to you.
No they didn't, you utter retard.
GW put some pictures of a black guy and white girl playing 40k. That's not advocating for them to breed, that's not saying "we should let in migrants and go full sweden," that's not saying "fuck trump and fuck white people," that's not advocating for the Kalergi plan, it's not saying "remember the 6 gorrilion goy."

It's a company trying to get more money from more people, not the eternal anglo trying to kill the aryan. As it stands, you retarded newfag, niggers are living in """white"""" countries like America >implying 60% is white .
Because of that being true for the forseeable future, GW wants there money. So GW includes some piecemeal stuff every so often to try and get that money.
And then you, like the r/the_donald newfag you are, get triggered to high heaven and make a fool of yourself, shitpost everywhere and make people dislike /pol/ (and who can blame them with fags like you) making everyone disdain the idea of being redpilled, thus actually doing the jews work for them. It's like that ms paint comic with the gay guy wanting people to support gay rights so he decides the best thing to do is dress like a total fag. That's you, just replace gsy rights with redpilled and total fag with utter retard.

>>53006605

So they weather 2 turns of shooting, then overwatch, and then hope they still have a numbers advantage in combat?

>>53006606
It would be strange if, of all the weapons that currently have AP 2, only the lascannon would get a armour modifier that is this low.

>>53006655
Or they just zoom forward in one turn, get shot maybe once if you're unlucky, and deal with a piddly amount of overwatch

have they confirmed you can't run and charge? because i know the rule for advancing says you specifically give up shooting
what if everyone can run and charge? would that be one of the many buffs melee would need?

>>53006665
strange, but not unthinkable

Im severely doubting that the armies will be even remotely balanced against each other

>>53006433
Probably be at least +2. So 3+ vs Bolters. An improvement from 7e which was a 4+

Are Biovores going to become the best anti-smite unit in the game?

>smite has to target closest unit
>biovores shit spores at psykers
>now they have to shoot spores

>>53006636

Saints above, you tell people to go back to plebbit but you're familiar enough with it to reference subs by name, including correct capitalization and spelling?

What a life.

>>53006696
>>53006625
>>53006586
all true, and all will be forgotten the next thread, and the next, and the next, even in this thread people are taking obvious bait and feeding these retards to give them excuses to talk up their personal little ideologies they are obsessed with, this is truly the darkest age of 4chan, where chaos rules

>>53006655
>The pinnacle of my tactics just walk up on open terrain under fire for two turns.
>why isn't GW making this viable?

I'm glad 4th edition melee is gone. Whole fucking games boiled down to non-melee army having 2 turns to wither down the assault army or it was just over.

>>53006636
The fact that you're posting it every thread in an attempt to bait people is spamming, yeah. Everyone has already seen it. It doesn't do anything but start off-topic arguments.

Nobody sees your post and laughs about how a company is trying to appeal to people with stock photographs. People see someone posting about niggers and then the thread devolves into niggershit

>>53006737
To be fair to him, it's become a common buzzword on /pol/ since it became divided over trump as a result of the syria bombing.

>>53006752
Thats how it is now. I either win or lose by turn 2 with my blitz brigade

>>53006746
The idea that they are two retards pretending to troll eachothers is growing on me.

>>53006779
honestly most games are decided by turn 2-3, I'm really hoping 8th changes that

>>53006752
so everyone should just hide in cover and take turns shooting at each other?

Sounds like a real fun game

>>53006789
How new are you?
Trolls trolling trolls has been true forever

>>53006822
Or you could plan accordingly

>>53006832
2007 new.

>>53006822
Yeah, clearly those two are the only possible options. Great job.

>>53006132
>implying anything but shooty centruions are dropped, aside from the soon to be defunct and good riddance to it skyhammer formation.
>implying the shooting aspects of marine armies are not sitting in their backfield, with 3 thunderfire cannons supporting their deathstars.
>implying you cannot sit in ruins, or behind an aegis line to protect against so much podded firepower, vs getting fucked straight in the ass by melee with no benefits.

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