Warhammer 40k General

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First for I2 supremacy

first for ignoring shitpost and report off-topic

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A friendly reminder

>inb4 BLACKED

is 8th for 40k what numetal was for metal?

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>>53000712
Too bad
>>53000710
No inichy-a-teef in 8E, chargers go first!

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8th edition is coming - what will you run?
http://www.strawpoll.me/12871510

>>53000693
>With puns like these; Who needs trolls?

What time does the new "sneak peek" usually come out?
Or given time zones, roughly how far from now?

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Whats your favorite chapter?
Mines the Iron hands.

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Which book will you get first?

also RIP Khorne Daemonkin and Scions

>>53000732
>Charge with Death Korps cavalry
>have them quickly regroup behind and unleash las-hell

boy I can't wait

MY BUGS RISE THIS DAY. Seriously though, any nid nogs here know if the tervigon/tyrannofex are any good? Thinking about picking up the progenitor box

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>mfw Lorgar comes back and kills guilliman
please

>>53000739
>No Gun-Fu Seraphim only option

Is like you want to screw up your poll from the start

>>53000750

Could you technically say that the Iron Hands, Space Wolves, Salamanders and Blood Angels not actually Chapters?

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Daily reminder that FemMarines are coming and there's nothing you can do about it.

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>>53000693
The new marines dont look so good, what do?
I think this must be a geneseed defect.

So, are you all ready for your Space Marinelets to get sidelined in favor of the new and improved Space Sigmarines?

Are you ready for Grand Alliance: NPXenos?

Are you ready for 40k's future as HH style focus on Space Sigmarines vs Chaos Sigmarines to minimize production costs and maximize margins?

>>53000776
What?

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>>53000693
>spain marines are now space manlets
>literally squats

How can space manlets even compete?

>>53000739
I'm planning on building a deldar force.

Space elves who murder fucked a god into creation and need to keep murder fucking to avoid getting eaten by it is kinda cool.

Or I might go scenery, but if I wanted to go NPC I'd probably play nids.

>>53000791
It's marinelets, faggot.

>>53000757
Oblig. Make sure your army isn't getting squatted, you might be better off buying [s]fyreslayers[/s] Nu-Nids when they drop.

>>53000750
>Black and metal flavour
>Implying different flavour of marines matter
>Choosing one of the most boring of flavours

Once you get to 18, you should stop playing Marine.

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>>53000783
Glad 40k is going back to the roots.
Everything from 3rd edition onwards was a mistake.

>>53000750
I've always been keen on The Fallen, the way they recruit and how gray they are morally play a big part. Why Iron Hands anon?

Next news post when?

>>53000801
Its ok millhouse.

>>53000750
Who the fuck likes a shit chapter that has a dead as fuck primarch?

>>53000757
We won't know if they'll be any good in eighth, but I really like the tervigon for how lucky you can be with it. It's also a big tough synapse creature with a massive base.
>>53000767
I hope they do kill him off, there's too much hope around with a living (good) Primarch
>>53000754
I really hope cavalry become decent, I've always had a soft spot for them

>>53000791
>are now space manlets
>now
Nah man, they were manlets since the beginning

>>53000780
What the? What makes you think that? Nothing seems to indicate that.

>>53000789
Who said they aren't Legions anymore?
Your cischapter oppression has gone on long enough.

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>>53000791
You are right.

>>53000741
I don't get the pun. Soft rob-hute-e?

>>53000744
About 4:30 bong-o-clock

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>>53000750
I do like my Dark Angels, gonna start a Fallen list with the HH boxes then might refresh my Deathwing cos I haven't updated them since 3rd ed

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>>53000814
I enjoy the whole "Replace your body parts with machinery" thing they got going on.

>>53000851
Soft reboot.

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>>53000838
>feeding the troll
And I thought that /vp/ is a bait-hungry retards kingdom

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>>53000851

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>>53000862
>And yet they feed

>>53000839
Well I mean theres only one group of space marines that could be seen as a legion.
The Black Templars.

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>>53000857
>I enjoy the whole "Replace your body parts with machinery" thing they got going on.

You're adorable.

>>53000857
How sad, they seek to emulate Ferrus Manus but he'd be pissed off at their love of machines

>>53000693
With the new edition I could actually play my Biel-tan path warriors oriented list competitively agai- wait. Fuck.

>>53000892
Sadly specifically a successor chapter.

Only the founders were originally designated as legions, see?

>>53000000

>>53000833
Nids will never ever allowed to be good. They are NPCs for little Timmy to beat up with his new Space Sigmarines.

>>53000892
>space wolves have no successors and dont hide it

>>53000838
I'm not trying to cause any trouble, but a new method of creating Marines would be the perfect time to introduce them if they were coming at all.

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>>53000898
>Playing as a xeno

>>53000898
>Playing an NPC faction.
LMAO

>>53000892
>>53000940
was about to say, space wolves are still legion sized, because russ looked at girly man and said. "Lol k, im still keeping my legion, if you dont like it you can come to my frozen fucking world and make me."

>>53000940
Didn't the puppies got kind of dick over by the red failure?

>>53000952
If everyone just play marines we might as well play 30k, even then there is people that play something else.

>>53000912
Yes your precious singular Craft World became a fleet of smaller ships. People still survived the big ship blowing up.

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>>53000969
I still see them as chapters.

>>53000907
>he'd be pissed off at their love of machines
why?

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Theres something different between this image and then ones usually posted with ongoing games.

Guess what it is

>>53000971
>If everyone just play marines we might as well play 30k, even then there is people that play something else.
Yes, exactly. This way GW can massively improve their margins by not spending fabricating poorly selling NPC models.

Enjoy Space Sigmarines vs Chaos Sigmarines!

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Vanquishing the enemy's of the imperium

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>I play Chaos Space Marines

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Do you think we will see new start collecting boxes or whatever they will call it? Not sure If I should buy them right now or wait until june for more leaks and spoilers

>>53001008
No templates.

>>53001008
>TAU VS ELDAR
holy fuck, the memes are real

>>53000833
Just looked it up, Jesus Christ 6 wounds. What do you recommend I get as a starting force? (assuming points and statlines stay the same in 8th)

>>53000971
Well not everyone has to play marines obviously.
I just wanted to make a retarded joke.

>>53001013
You mean Chaos Space Marinelets :^)

>>53001013
>I play Iron Warriors

Fix'd

>>53001008
Painted tau.

>>53001008
Tau allied with Eldars?

>>53000940
Except the Wolves size was given in Champions of Fenris. Even with their 12 "Companies" they're still under 1500.

Rowboat knew Leman's tantrum didn't even deserve to be acknowledged. It's why Rowboat went after Dorn.

The charging info should be out in a few hours, right?

>>53001019
s'taudar against marine & guard

>>53001008
There are people pretending to play an NPC race?

>>53001008
The two in the middle look like beta nerds trying desperately to escape their virginity.

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>>53000912

>>53001008
Painted tau?
white people instead of the triggered /pol/tard blacked posting?
Games store in the background rather than taken from above or at an angle?
We can actually see the players?
Painted tau?
WAAC armies being played but people are having fun?
The image isn't massively over sized?
The players aren't obese neckbeards?
4 players instead of 2?
Wraithknight and riptide on the board and someone hasn't killed the cunts who fielef them yet?
Painted tau?

That's everything I can think of.

>>53001011
God knows how she'll play next edition...at BS3, she'll never get to move for fear of never hitting!

>>53001008
Tau allied with eldar and yet everyone is still happy.

>>53001040
Lol that literally chapter sized

>>53001040
With their shitty attitude G knew wolves would fix their legion strenght by themselves.

>>53001002
Because he doesn't feel that one should spread the word of the Omnissiah all over the back of little timmy the Land Raider and that sweet, nubile young toasters slots aren't for fucking.

>>53001011
>enemy's

Times I wish I kept that memepic of why colorblind, poor and autistic people can't play 40k.

>>53000752
I still think it will be

Space Marines
Imperium
Chaos
Xeno Empires
Xeno Hordes

Xeno Empires will be just Eldar and Tau for now. I imagine Tau will get more stuff (better Kroot options) and we'll see a new xeno empire.

>>53001065
I'm really hoping guard takes a note from renegades and heretics and let's you buy a veteran crew for your vehicals for 10pts, I hate running an all bet army but my chimeras and tanks are still manned by people with cross eyes

>>53001052
love it

>>53001082
To be fair English is a retarded language most of the time.
But then again that "enemy's" is just sad

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This guy walks up and slaps your favorite models ass.
What do you do.

>>53001086
> Xeno Empires will be just Eldar and Tau for now.
No Necrons?

>>53001097
Call the Inquisition and tell them he cohorts with xenos.

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America is waking up, prepare your bodies for shitposting

>>53000750
>Iron Hands
Literally who?

>>53001015
The tau one should get Kroot tossed in.

>>53001094
I never understood why trained soldiers can't hit shit. Even the good shot miss 1/6 of the time.

I liked how the starship trooper game made fun of that fact.

>>53001027
I think that belongs to Guard players. There's a lot of Guard players in my area and they are all manlets. To make it better, there's a tranny Guard player who's about 5-6 inches taller than the rest of the other Guard players.

Join the Guard today! Manlets and trannies await you.

>>53001097
I like that color scheme

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>>53001097
declare as heretic

>>53001116
>everything before this wasn't shitposting!

>>53001097
Attend his funeral because he's T3

>>53001116
You mean just the left of the USA?

>>53001116
It's 9:59 AM here in New Jersey.
I've been shitposting for 2 hours now.

>>53001097
"Welcome to Chaos Brother, about time."

>>53001065
>>53001011
Just gotta have her as a Tank Commander. Also, I hope the shot does at least D3+1 wounds to big things. D6+1 would be amazing though.

Charge phase is up
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/01/new-warhammer-40000-charge-phasegw-homepage-post-4/

>>53000857

>Spend decades augmenting your body with vat grown super organs
>Cut it all off and replace with machine parts

Most pointless chapter ever, why not just use Skitarii.

>>53001011
Enemies* stupid uh... auto correct

>>53001121
It's a balance thing, if you talk to any solder who's been through basic training they can tell you hitting someone only half the time would be a miserable hit rate, of course being on the range is a lot different from shooting at a moving target in combat, but if they were trying to be "realistic" then space marines would probably be like BS8 and a vindicare assassin would hit on 2s rerolling 6 times

>>53001105

Ah, I forgot about them. On the other hand I think these are just 5 books where they put the basic rule for all of them, not alliances. Because Necrons and Eldar teaming up makes almost no sense after the War in Heaven.

So I dont think its going to be AoS grand alliances. They did say that they are coming out with new factions, I imagine some will simply be more stratification of imperium forces, but we might see some new groups as well. My money being on a new xeno empire.

>>53001116
California isn't all of the USA bro. There is a lot of space between New York which has been up for 3 hours on average now (assuming most people wake up at 7am), the Mid West (2 hours now) Mountain Time (1 Hour) and Far West (3 minutes now)

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>>53000750

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>>53000791

>CSMs are the big bads of the setting.
>the Numarines tower over them

Does GW even into heroics?

>>53001146
So assault is stronger, but now Overwatch is stronger as well. No more throwing a tankier unit to tank Overwatch first, they get to fire it as many times as they want. Looks like Tau will still be incredibly strong against being assaulted.

>>53001146
Not that bad. I expected something more gamechanging.

>>53001146
>Charge is still 2d6"
FUCK
The one thing I wanted changed is still as cancerous as ever. Fuck.

>>53001146
Fucken nothing save an extra inch for everyone
Personally I was hoping 2D6 would change to M+D6

>>53001163
That kid is clearly mixed, does that still count as BLACKED where you're from? What if he was a 1/4 and visually indistinguishable from you?

>>53001146
So you'll get extra 2d6'' movement as long as you are willing to eat overwatch and start within 12'' of that enemy.

>>53001138
It's also 10 here in Kentucky, I've just been doing school work and haven't been able to post, most Americans don't wake up and start shitposting
>also my condolences for living in Jersey

>>53001074
Exactly. Wolves Chapter'd themselves.

>>53001172
Death Guard and Thousand Sons are as tall as them.

>>53001179
>>53001178
>>53001176
Of all things that needed to be changed, they kept that aspect the same. At least you can assault out of any transport.

>>53001146
What the actual fuck, the only changes are that you only have to get within 1'' and no longer base-to-base.

And that units can fire overwatch multiple times. What. The. Actual. Fuck.

Melee better be fucking devastating when you do reach melee GW, because I'm not seeing how CC has been made a more important, viable tactic in 8th so far.

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>>53001013

>I play Warhammer 40,000: epic battles in the grim dark future!

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>>53001156
I dont think their legs and arms have implants.

>>53001172

They'll make chaos numarines

IN fact FW's Gal Vorbak are already chaos numarines

The only truescale marines they ever produced

>>53001002
He hated his metal hands, saw them as less perfect than human flesh. The idea of his legion replacing any of their body parts with machines was repugnant to him.

>>53001045
>/tg/

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>>53001146
>Overwatch still a thing
>Charges still 2D6

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

ASSAULT ARMIES BTFO

B T F O
T
F
O

>>53001201
>>53001197
You move the 2d6'' no matter what.

>>53001201

It's already been said you can fire your pistols in melee

I think by "making the game faster" they mean making everything more deadly so the games last less.

>>53001194

Oh yeah? Post the models standing next to each other, you pinhead.

>>53001184
One drop rule faggot.

>>53001206
And gal vorbak are meant to be larger than a normal marine because they're daemonhosts

If I recall aren't they supposed to be able to go toe to toe with custerds?

>>53001192
It's not that bad.
Help

>>53001146
Booooring

>>53001218
No one thought Overwatch itself had a chance of being deleted, did they

>>53001146
>Overwatch
FUCKING REEEEE

>>53001219
Well at least you get extra movement I guess. You're still fucked againt armies that don't mind to charge themselves though.

>>53001221
Well with what we know so far from shooting is that ranged weapons have become less lethal.

>>53001097
>Slaps my Warbosses ass
His body is literally fused into the bike, how did he do it?

>>53001146
>Multiple overwatch attempts allowed now
>2D6 Charge range
Thanks NuGW.

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>>53001206

On GW's facebook page someone asked if they would, and they replied that Chaos is winning atm and doesn't need them.

>>53001146
MELEE ARMIES ON SUICIDE WATCH

SHOOTING MASTER RACE CONFIRMED

>>53001201
If you can't already see melee as more viable you're just not very good at 40k
Sorry nigga you need to hit the books and go back to fundamentals

>>53001260

Sounds to me like a typical shitty ass GW excuse to just produce these new numarine models and a couple other chaos ones to just switch editions without spending shekels on making new models and revamps.

Lame

Just like they did with robooty and celestine

>2d6 charge
>not 1d6+M

Fucking hell GW

>>53001256
With a power fist, I assume.

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>>53001146
>rolling for running and for charges
oh fuck off just give us double the movement like all the other games.

8th ruined for me

>>53000806
>Ex Brother Marine
everytime

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>Tomorrow, we’ll check in on the Fight phase, where we look at the bloody melee in the 41st Millennium.
Thay will just copy-paste AoS system with pile in etc. right?

>>53001256
He's an Ultramarine.
He can do next to anything.

>>53000806
Sometimes I can't believe how shitty old models are

>>53001292
But he's a cybork that doesn't have anything from the waist down

>>53001280
BUT RNG IS FUN

>>53001146
So still 2d6, making a major move still a massive gamble that can get you wrecked fir no gain.
Add in if you do get there, they can disengage anyway.

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>>53001289
Like how they've totally copy pasted sigmar word for word? It's not like the guy who keeps posting sigmar rules saying that's how 8th will be keeps getting constantly BTFU'd

>>53001298
old models and old art makes us grateful we have new models and new art.

>>53001219
I don't like that because it just makes you easier to be charged.

Oh well, it won't be any worse than it is now for charging. I'm just a little let down because everything else they have said has been amazing so far. This however, is disappointing and will likely make Ork boy blobs/Tyranids and Guard blobs less good and instead reward tanky deathstars that pop out of transports.

How is /tg/ handing all the new players, both IRL and here?

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>>53001313
>makes us grateful we have new models and new art.

Uhhhhhhh

>>53001301
Shhhh
Let the bullshit happen

>>53001312
>Like how they've totally copy pasted sigmar word for word?
Are you seriously implying 8th edition isn't AoS: now with Strength and Toughness!

>>53001311
Not till their movement phase. So no big deal. If you slaughter them in Melee then no big deal. And if you only leave a few well when they break to run you got to slaughter the remainder with weapons fire.

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>>53001313
Art is the big thing that got me into 40k in the first place. Other IPs just don't generate the sort of over-the-top battle scenes 40k does.

>>53001311
It just depends how much they strengthen melee, the biggest issue with it in my opinion was it's so inconsistant, massed AP2-3 is hard to come by and having an AP at all is rare, usually orks are getting saves, if they make stuff like choppas and chainswords -1 AP then it'll consistently kill a lot more once you get there, which will help offset the fact you have to get right in the enemies face and eat a shitload if overwatch just to get stuck in

>>53001306
Maybe shooting attacks should always have to roll their ranges too
And not before they pick targets, you choose what they're shooting at, roll range and if its not enough, that unit does nothing that turn. So fun

>>53001324
is that official? That's what I ment.

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>>53001306
only when the results are fun like the old psychotrope grenades that they removed from the grey knight codex.

>>53001312
But I wouldn't mind if they do that tho. Copying the Magic Phase as a Psychic Phase was a good idea IMO.

>>53000693
>still rolling for running
>still rolling for charges
>literally the two most annoying things in 7th ed

fucking neck me

>>53001324
The 4th and 5th ed codices had some good things in them I think, which is very new compared to the stuff he refers to as old.

House Rule:
Charge 2d6 or M.

>>53001179
M+D6 would have been great.
An advantage for faster armies, still a bit of luck required but much easier to mitigate.
Instead we've still got fast armies that can now be stuck 4 inches out, instead of 3.

>>53001342
I know. I spent quite a lot of time in http://wh40kart.im/ and pinterest looking at good fanart and miniatures before buying my first start collecting.

Rolled 6, 1 = 7 (2d6)

>charge
>roll 2
>Eternal butthurt

>>53001362
>>53001361
>>53001179
If I didn't play at GW stores, I would definitely do M+D6 as a house rule.

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>>53001339
I am implying that, but then again I know how to read and don't let my biases get in the way, which you're struggling with, so I understand it might be hard for you hun.

>>53001362
Assault has no place in a game with guns. Go play AoS if you want to bash things.

>>53001163
Who cares about the kid, I thought we were talking about the dudes he's painting.

>>53001362
And if they copy over some of the demon rules for Seekers than Seekers have a rule that letsa run on 2d6 and run and charge in the same turn!

>>53001380
You are 1'' away from my units. What now?

>>53001094
I'd love it for my tanks, but chimeras would stick to BS3 as I flat them out a lot anyways. I fluff it as the tank crews being trained in chimeras then moving up as vacancies open.
>>53001145
If a lascannon is a D6, then the larger vanquisher Cannon will be at least D6+1 for sure.

>>53001342
Has Perterabo ever smiled?

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>>53001230

>>53001397
He gets to RAPE them in melee.

Sadly though my distraction Spawn lose their job since they won't be tanking the Overwatch, unless they can survive to get into 1" of the unit thus shutting down the overwatch so that the CSM or Demons can get in their and do their job.

>>53001382
Can't wait for those M12 sanic units to rape your shitter.

>>53001351
Psychotrope grenades were kek

>>53001408
You're talking about the guy who's named after the world for being anxious and upset. He smiles about as much as Angron.

>>53001382
>the edition isn't even out and people wanna house rules shit

THICC YOUR PAINTS

>>53001392
>I am implying that, but then again I know how to read and don't let my biases get in the way, which you're struggling with, so I understand it might be hard for you hun.
Please, you Aeldari posting fag, explain how this isn't in most ways a copy paste of AoS.
We have AoS magic. We have AoS charge phase. We have AoS battleshock. We have AoS keywords. We have AoS mortal wounds. We have AoS monsters get weaker as they lose wounds. We have AoS everything can wound anything.
There are differences, sure, but you're an idiot to deny sigmars influence on 8th.

>>53001324
There is so much wrong with this picture it's nuts! Why is a vanquisher cannon glowing, let alone a rail gun glowing blue? Heat does not work like that! And both commanders are turned out mid-battle! Why? The enemy tank is right. Freaking. There!

>>53001419
>Can't wait for those M12 sanic units to rape your shitter.
Yeah, no.
>>53001431
We've already played years of 2D6" for charge range with Overwatch. We know what to expect.

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>>53000739
Bump the poll

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Welp, orks are now confirmed to remain garbage. Fuck this

>>53001411
>Nb4 he says you rescaled them
This just shows how long it's been since he's actually been to a game store since those are very common models right now

>>53001435
>We have AoS keywords
Do we? Have I missed something?

>>53001442
>we know what to expect in a new edition
Well since you're obviously a psyker please don't smite me for saying this, but I hope you're happily surprised anon-kun

>>53001446
Orgs confirmed as needing to get within 1 inch of the enemy. Plus we don't know how casualties are removed yet. If they go back to 3-5e casualty removal then you have nothing to worry about.

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>>53001350
Yes, that is official GW art. Those two campaign books contain some really terrible art.

>>53001463
When's the last time codex: Sweden got updated?

>>53001411

So the numarines arent canonically bigger marines, just special marines that have updated GW standard marine mold / size

>>53001466
Yes Infantry, and Vehicle are two confirmed Keywords.

>>53001468
I'm not saying I know everything. I'm saying we all know what 2D6" charge range and Overwatch feels like.

>>53001466
Yep. It was mentioned in the Q&A video

>>53001162
What xenos empire though?
>suddenly Hruds gather en masse somewhere in the galaxy
>a message spreads through the billions of codex-less xenos
>Qah is back

>>53001435
You're an idiot if you think people are denying the influence. You're aware that they can add similarities without copy-pasting, right? Seriously dude, there's no need to put words in people's mouths so you can argue against yourself and whack off for how right you are. Even if it seems similar to what they're saying, adding shit to it is nothing but you arguing with yourself. Why even bother with other people then?
>>53001442
And you know what to expect with pretty much all of the other rules that you aren't currently playing with and that it won't fuck with the balance in 8th when people decide to ignore the rules before playtesting, right?

Really though, we don't know how shit's gonna play out, good or bad. I have hopes but that could be wrong. There's no need to act like you know shit you don't, and claiming that it makes sense doesn't make it anything but acting like you know shit you don't.

>>53000806
Captain lowbroe is an African American marine lol

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>>53001435
>argues it's a copy pasta
>yeah there are differences
Wow I didn't even need to do anything, you defeated your own argument
>aeldari
Shh don't say that again, HE might appear

>>53001475
They are keeping the worst aspects of 7th

So no hope there. I'm starting to think everyone runs gunline in GW. Because moving models in your wargame sucks. Reason why they removed template it requieres some thinking.

>be a collector
>promise myself to only collect aeldari armies
>Xenos allegiance happens
>forced to collect Orks, Tau, Tyranids, Genestealer Cult and Necrons
>and the upcoming new Ynnari faction

SHIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET

>>53001146

>overwatch still exists


T-thanks, GW.
At least the minimum charge distance is now 3" instead of 2".

>>53001435
>We have AoS magic.
Can you dispell from 24'' away in AoS ? Is there such a thing as Perils of the warp ?

>We have AoS everything can wound anything.
Well only on the most abstract sense of that sentence. Or are you claiming wounding things on different dicerolls is the same as fixed to wound rolls in weapon profiles ?

>We have AoS monsters get weaker as they lose wounds
One of the few good things AoS has and lots of people were hoping this would come to 40k. Because monsterous creatures have been bullshit for a long time now.

>There are differences, sure, but you're an idiot to deny sigmars influence on 8th.
Like how people claimed AoS was influenced by 40k ?

>>53001507
>Shut up and let me knock down my own straw man cunt, arguing with real people makes my head hurt!

>>53001507
I acted like I know shit that I do know. I do know what 2D6" charge range and Overwatch is like. Are you dumb or can you not read? No need to reply, I know the answer to my question already.

>>53001466
it was mentioned in the QandA.
to do with allies and joining squads was their specific example. Like whole a SM captain still join a guardsmen squad they miss out on some bonuses because they're not keyword space-marine.

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>>53001506
Fishmen

>>53001536
>no need to reply
>st-stop pressing me, my argument is falling apart

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>>53001408
You wouldn't smile either if your sons were such colossal disappointments.

>>53001536
And you don't know how it's going to go with the new rules. Or are you saying that one rule is the exact same no matter the situation it's in? That's what I'm saying. You don't know how those two rules are going to react to EVERYTHIGN ELSE IN THE GAME CHANGING. No need to get angry just because you aren't aware of what context is.

>>53001537
>>53001491
>>53001505
Thanks. Now I'm really okay with 8e

>>53001516
You are either baiting or too retarded to check what is actually going to happen. GTFO you lazy shitposter.

>>53001313
Old art was way more ballin

>>53001510
>Wow I didn't even need to do anything, you defeated your own argument
Are you so dense you think people meant GW was literally going to go to the AoS rules, hit CTRL+C, go to a new document, hit paste and say that's that. By that utterly retarded logic, it could never be an AoS copy paste because they'll at least have to change the title from Age of Sigmar to Warhammer 40,000. Don't a retarded autist who takes everything 100% litteraly.
>Shh don't say that again, HE might appear
AELDARI AELDARI AELDARI

>>53001570
Again, I commented on what I know. You're blatantly shitposting at this point just because you can't read. Reported.

>>53001516
You realize those aren't actual factions but general collections of factions. Orks will still get their own codex, but they slapped together a $10 book of a collection of armies with almost no lore in it. The general Xenos book (I'm betting Space Marines and Aeldari will get their own books), Isn't a Grand Alliance it's just "here is everything that isn't Aeldari, Chaos, Loyal Mariens, or Imperium.

>>53001508
The term is "African Astartes"

>>53001184
>Black kid
>But what if he was black?
>1/4 is indistinguishable from white you guys!

Someone's never met a mongrel.

>this garbage meme about organizing the armies into wider range bundles for fluff based sorting being the same thing as fucking allying everything

>>53001592
It's 'Astartes of Color' you fucking racist shitlord!

>>53001588
>Aeldari get a book
>"""Other Xenos""" get to be shoved in the other book

Fuck GW

>>53001086
It's 5 books in total including the rule book
So rulebook, fluff book, imperium, chaos, xenos

>>53001586
Nigga I joined this thread a few minutes ago, I'm not the elf-poster. No one cares what you know because you're just not smart enough to apply it. You don't have to report people because they think you're a loser, I wouldn't be surprised if most people do.

>>53001507
>Seriously dude, there's no need to put words in people's mouths so you can argue against yourself and whack off for how right you are.
>he says, as he constucts the straw man that copy paste can only mean the most literal interpretation of the phrase

>>53001511
And they are taking stuff from AoS and AoS the player taking the wounds gets to allocate them like in 3e to 5e 40k, so hold on the sky might be fine that might just have been your paranoia.

>>53001594
Jokes on you, I live in London.

>>53001158
>It's a balance thing, if you talk to any solder who's been through basic training they can tell you hitting someone only half the time would be a miserable hit rate, of course being on the range is a lot different from shooting at a moving target in combat
The hit rate for trained soldiers in combat is way below 50%. It's like thousands of rounds per casualty inflicted. I seen some estimates of up to a quarter of a million bullets for every kill on the modern battlefield.

>>53001435
>Sigmar's influence on 8th

If you can't see that AoS was a mostly risk-free testbed for a rules shake-up of 40k, then I don't know what to tell you.

Cant wait for multiple units to get wiped out by tau overwatch

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Impromptu poll /tg/
How big is your 40k reaction folder?
Post your favorite pic to use if you have one
>I'm only at 300

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>>53001612
>implying I even play xenos
laffing right now anon, I'm just sick of the endless shitposting thats been going on because this shit gets old

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Does anybody have pic related?
Ive been looking for it everywhere but ive only found it on appstore for 16 dollars

>>53001580
I started with the 2001 Space Marines codex. You don't want to look at that art if you know what the average commission artist can make.

>>53001620
Oh I'll be there in a couple months, how's the 40k scene there?

>>53001631
t. Xenosfag trying to falseflag himself as a Chaosfag

Never trust alienfuckers.

>>53001625
Most shots on modern battlefields are fired in a suppressive manner, to influence the enemy's movement

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Is 30k being converted to 8th?

Is my Moritat gud now?

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>Wanna get into 40K novels for fluff and inspiration for a potential Doom WAD project in the future.
>Dunno which authors are the best and which to avoid.
Help a fa/tg/uy out? If it helps, I'm more so looking for one off novels, not so much the HH or Beast Arises books. Though recommendations for those is good too.

>>53001625
Yeah but I meant for how good of shots a standard solder is, it would also be shitty balance if only one out of a thousand shots hit

>>53001656
no

no

>>53001644
>>>>>>>>>>>>>implying
Nice one anon, keep projecting harder.

>>53001656
>no
>no

>>53001656
According to GW not right now

>>53001669
>>>>>>>>>implying
XENOFAG! YOU HAVE TO GO BACK!

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>>53001630

The best

>>53001608
Aeldari will cover Harliquins, Dark Elder, and Craftworld, and if they are any minis for them Exodites...

>>53001205
Most of the implants are used to increase muscle mass and strength and bone density etc

>>53001634
you need duncan

>Why is there so much Melee in 40k
There ain't no more! Bwahahaha!

>>53001508
nah, his skin is way too light to be black

>>53001643
It's pretty good, there's a good number of shops scattered about in the more touristy/commercial areas and plenty of gaming clubs, just due to big/dense population.

If you don't drive like me, it's handy have various options for gaming that are all pretty well connected by public transport.

Players are much like anywhere in my experience, you get the full range of fun guys to play against all the way to turbo autists that bring four riptides and reee when their 'tournament list' gets beaten or they roll badly.

>>53001690
>only three
I like the Xenos Empires (Tau, Necron, Eldar) shitpost more

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>>53001630

>>53001698
We'll find out tomorrow I guess.

But I do hope that when your units do manage to somehow get in CC the enemy units will get completely BTFO

>>53001679
Again, still projecting this hard. Are you mad about something anon? Are you doing this to seem trendy with cheetahfag or something perhaps?

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>>53000710
>Be a fire warrior
>Train your whole life to be a warrior
>BS3
>WS2

>Be Guardsman
>Spend a few weeks at a bootcamp where you are taught basic things like 'what a gun is' and 'how to jab someone with your bayonet'
>BS3
>WS3
>With the ability to become BS4 with more training.

Why are Tau inherently SHIT

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>>53001668
>>53001676
>>53001678
bugger.

>>53001139
I wonder if chaos marines get up to any yaoi shenanigans

>>53001658
>Doom WADs
Holy shit did you just come out of a warp portal?

>>53001698
Oh man these melee kids are pathetic, no wonder they want to play punchy macho men in this game of pretend.

>>53001656
No, its not.


>No cool shit for Admech
>No tech thralls
>no castellax
>no stratos
>no myrmidons

>>53001656
One, not for a good long while. After Angelus and probably the book after that.

Two, may be good then because you can shoot pistols when locked in melee, so stick him at the back of a squad to tank for him and unleash Chain Fire plasma into someone's poor face. BA Moritats may even get their +1 To Wound with Inferno Pistol chain fire, depending on how they word the rules.

Three, damn good taste in movies. I was going to make a Harlequin Shadow War squad using some Not!Delaque minis converted into Grammaton Clerics, shoot myself some Grey Knights, but no-one seems to play that much around here.

>>53001727
go
back
xenocuck

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>>53001630
Not as big as I'd like.

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>>53001698
>we haven't gotten to assault yet

and you never will

>>53001723
All or nothing is a shitty way to balance things though
Reaching CC is the biggest challenge melee armies face. Shouldn't be a coin flip between units being wiped or butchering hordes

>>53001698

>black templar playing BEGGING for help

Pathetic!

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>>53001583
>he's getting so mad this early in the day
Good, just Keep changing your argument until you're right anon, eventually we'll just agree at this point

>>53001728
>instead of using lasguns, use laser pens and get army wide bs10 ignore cover
>don riptide battlesuit
>drink the tears of Astra militarum shitters for 2 editions and counting
Work smarter, not harder.

>>53001749
Canonically they have awful depth perception

>>53001123

Is she at least hot?

>>53001770
And because they're non-Codex compliant, no Supermarines for them either!

>>53001728
Because caste systems are bullshit

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>>53001742
Something like that. In all seriousness, if you want me to elaborate, I've been getting into more older games since alot of newer stuff doesn't interest me. I've been playing Doom again and only now just realized how active the old Doom community is, which inspired me to wanna do my own WADs. Still interested in book recommendations btw.

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>>53001764

>>53001780
>look how mad he is! He has to be mad, since he called me an autist because I take phrases 100% litteraly
lmao at your life

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>>53001764
I see what you did there.
crying on inside though

>>53001658
15 hours
Ciaphas Cain, all of it
Ian Watson's Space Marine and Inquisition Wars.

>>53001740
According to every girl and gay guy who plays 40k yes

>sister yuri when?

>>53001785
Makes sense with the fact that they're meh without markerlights and horrifying with them.

>>53001748
>t. manlet Taufag

>>53001097

>Talos has no arse.

Look at him quizzically as he gets turned into nourishing mulch by the other 6.

>>53001799
I can't reccomend any book, im sorry, but im looking foward to play your WAD. I still have Doom installed since that hentai mod

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>>53001728
>with more training.
that's a quaint way to say survive your first deployment

>>53001813
What are y...

No wait. Don't tell me. I bet I can sleep better without knowing.

>>53001658
>DOOM WADS
Have I been transported through a time warp? What edition is it?

>>53001761
>keeps calling me a xenocuck
Stop projecting the fact that you're insecure about playing or liking ugly non-human races onto me, fag.
>Capcha: STOP BLUEBERRY

>>53001799
it's not a very good book, but I like recommending redemption corps whenever people ask about one-offs

it was fun and interesting, and had a very fat side character caving in skulls with his fists

>>53001821
>>53001776
That one really struck a nerve, didn't it? Don't worry, at least your space marines have muscles.

>>53001837
Why do you keep replying, Xenofag? Insecure, much?

Time to get gassed.

>>53001837
Anyone not playing SoB is kind of gay. Touching and moving men around is very gay.

>>53001784
I threw 42 dice at a CSM terminator squad today, because it was dumb enough to stand inside rapid fire range of my Fire Warrior gunline. Bumped them up to BS5 with Hunter Cadre and a single markerlight, only three missed. There were something like 25 wounds he had to save (to wound roll was shit) and he ended up losing five Terminators and Huron Blackheart to fifteen Fire Warriors. I ende dup getting tabled though, since I run tanks and infantry, and he had two Heldrakes and a Renegade Knight. Still had fun, though.

>>53001813
And thus GW, spotting a market ripe for the pickings, started up the erotic fiction segment of Black Library, Commorragh.

>>53001708
Duncan doesnt like hive fleet behemoth though, ive found white dwarf issue from 2014 but its info is scarce
Its just weird how there are literally all painting tutorials on the op mega but not the tyranid one

>>53001844
You were the one who replied in the first place cause you're a gayy lmao

>>53001439
It's actually showing off the new Age of Emperor mechanic, they're engaging in a tank-duel.

Rolled 3, 3 = 6 (2d6)

1+1=2

>>53001698
GW attempting to get BT player to buy new materials before rage quitting.

>>53001538
I loved that episode of One Punch Man

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>>53001801
Anon why are you getting so mad? This is just some friendly banter I thought, I mean I'll go back to shitposting about other stuff if you're actually getting red faced lol

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>>53001809
>>53001839
I'll look into these, thank you!
>>53001831
Hah, I know what you're referring to. And thanks, it will be a good while since that gets accomplished though, since I'm still wrapping my head around sprite making and coding (plus I'm still in the process of making a decent gaming rig), but hopefully it'll be worth it.

>>53001883
FUCKING DIE XENOFAG

>>53001690
Couldn't you probably kitbash some exodites with aos elves and craftworld eldar? I kinda want to see that desu...

>>53001874
I don't even want erotica, just cutsie sisters of battle being cute together

>yuri is in fact the purest and most wholesome form of love
-The Emperor

>>53001218
Assaulting is for NPC armies. Can't have little Timmies Space Sigmarines losing to NPCs, now can we?

>>53001146
Not quite what I was hoping, though ideally this may just be the default and any actual assault unit will get special rules to help them charge more reliably

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5th edition was the peak of Warhammer 40k art.

Pic unrelated.

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If, as a purely hypothetical (I know there are a lot of absurdities with this question), you could pull a faction from another source of media and make it an army in 40k, what would it be?

I'd play the shit out of Protoss from Star Craft.

>>53001324
>a punisher without pask in front of a bunch of armour 12
>I'm just here for moral support

>>53001905
>your totally mad! I haven't made a single point against you, but because you said something thst hurt my feelings you must be mad!!!1!
>being this triggered at being called an autist
kek, how pathetic can you get?

>>53001698
It better be something really insane. Like,

>because in close combat you can better take advantage of the weaknesses in your opponents armor, all melee attacks have a -1 save modifier, which can further be increased.

>>53001948
It was the peak of the models too IMO

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>>53001930

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>charge boyz into some fire warriors
>Get obliterated by bs4+ overwatch from entire army
>try again with next boy squad
>repeat until your entire army dies on your turn because the enemy gets a free shooting phase

im out

>>53001915
Oh? Is this some sort of new Aeldaricuck meme? Or maybe you're a mad xenos player accusing others of being the same because not many like xenos players ayy lmao

>>53001323
If most of /tg/ tries to handle all the new little Timmies they are getting banned from the store and possibly ending up on a registry.

>>53001982
STFU XENO FUCKING KEK

GO FUCKING BACK TO THE ALIEN SHITHOLE YOU CAME FROM!

NO ONE FUCKING LIKES YOU!

>>53001977
>peak of models
God damn how thick is the prescription on those nostalgia glasses?

>>53001323
I mean, I only started in January so I guess I'm new.

>>53001356
But maximizing variance is important for minimizing the effect of skill on outcomes. How else can you forcibly keep the game sufficiently casual not to offend Jervis' sensibilities?

>>53001980
dont forget the part where if you actually make it into combat, they can disengage and leave you out in the open to get shot at :^)

Close combat got nerfed fucking hard in 8th, holy shit

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>>53001999
What a waste of trips :(

>>53001439
You have to lean out of your tank to shout so fucking loudly that your enemy hears you over the swarm of tanks and constant explosions. That's how you win battles of intimidation.

>>53001999
>repeating the whole xenocuck thing over and over
And here I thought it was supposed to be the xenos armies you play that are the NPCs, not you.

>>53002002

This the part where you tell us the age of Stormsurge, SW sleighs, Taurox and Centurions is the peak of GW?

>>53001764
This made me laugh.

They'll probably just give more assault units a reroll on the charge. 3d6 and drop the lowest ast standard would have been better.

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>>53002035
...But I like the way the Stormsurge and Centurions look.

>>53001174
>no throwing a tankier unit
A unit in CC can't fire overwatch, you just get to fire overwatch at any charging unit until you get tied up.
I'm happier with the pistol in CC changes, BAs with hand flamers are gonna be terrors.

>>53002035
Fuck off Space Santa is gonna bring me a bike on Christmas.