Warhammer 40k General

1st for Eldar women are slag

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First for female Space Woofs in 8E

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Nick here, threadly reminder to ALWAYS get BLACKED

I'm debating between starting up either a Guard army or an Ork army for the next edition. I'll probably end up going for a more mechanized force regardless, with either Shotgun Vets in Chimeras or 'Ardboyz in Trukks and the like.

I could use a second opinion on which to spring for.

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>>52997149
>girl playing Nids
>nigger playing DARK Angels
kek

>>52997159
Holy fuck I didn't even realize that.

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>>52997117
I realised that in building an ork army, its going to cost me a lot of fucking money
Also first time building, gib me advice on it

>>52997218
Id wait a month and a half until the new system comes out to see whats worth a shit

You're probably safe getting some boyz and meganobz to start off with. Build those up and paint them while you wait

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>Space Marine Codex
>Death Guard Codex
>Imperium Compendium
>Chaos Compendium
>Xenos Compendium

These are the five books. How does this make you feel?

>>52997240
source?

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>>52996699

I've painted up 180 Boyz and there is a simple key to this: washes. Back when I first started I had to use a black ink wash watered down, but now you have access to the wonder that is Agrax Earthshade.

You can get a very good result for Orks just by basecoating the model then applying Agrax Earthshade all over. You don't even need to do highlights afterwards. Now, for HQ models and elites and the like, sure, pull out your full painting arsenal, but for your rank and file Boyz, you want simple. You'll be taking them off the board in handfuls anyway, plus with hordes like Boyz what's more important is them looking like a coherent force, not individual quality. Few indeed are the people who are going to pick up a random Boy to check it out.

The other tip is to use a production line. Get 10 Boyz primed and ready to go, then paint the skin on all of them in one session. Then paint the metal, then the clothes, then the leather, etc etc. Once they're all basecoated, wash, and you're done.

I did this squad of Kommandos up something like 7 or 8 years ago, but it's a good example of what basecoating + wash produces.

>>52997218
Wait for 8th dipshit

>>52997247
Stop responding to the fucking bait dude.

>>52997248
doing some highlights after is recommended or else they end up a bit dull

>>52997281

Frankly, I'd say it depends on how many Boyz you're doing up. If you have all the time in the world, go for it. But if you have a huge number of basic troops to slog your way through, I'd say keep it simple.

>>52997292
boyz yeah, but elite infantry should be flashy

Does the Goliath Truck really come with 3 or 4 usable cultist models? It looks like they'd be super easy to slap on a base

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>>52997117
>yfw sentinels chainsaws become ap-3

>>52997361
Comes with 3 and 1 is a bit more heavily armored, which makes him a good champion material

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>>52997117
Hi everyone. I don't play 40k but I'm very interested in collecting the models I like. Is there a large gallery of sorts that shows the models and is possibly organized by faction?

>>52997459
The games workshop website.

>>52997459
We'll there's the GW website
I know they used to put out a hardcopy catalogue with all the models in too but I can't recall the last year they did that

>>52997384
aren't they chainfists anyway? those powerloader- i mean sentinels could easily punt a space marine

>>52997459
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Warhammer-40-000

lol

I am starting a Khorne Daemonkin army! Any tips?

>>52997467
I'm stupid

Another question. I understand from my friends that Sigmar put an emphasis on fireteams or skirmishes or something, essentially small encounters. If I wanted to have a squad to play with a friend, what's the best bang for my buck? I saw the starter set but to be honest neither of those armies looked attractive to me

>>52997500
Don't be one of those autists who shouts
>BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
and
>SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE
during games.

>>52997500

Use a gun if possible, and remember the three F's

Front Lawn
Face Up
Feet together

>>52997514
Get. Out.

>>52997524
We have a local Orc player who screams WAAAGH! when he does a WAAAGH!
everyone finds it fucking hilarious

>>52997514
I think Killteam may be your best bet in that regard. I haven't actually looked into the rules yet myself, but my understanding is that Killteam is effectively built for small-scale games, with appropriate restrictions on stompy units to match.

IMPERIUM
CHAOS
XENOS

WHICH ONE WILL YOU CHOOSE?

>>52997477
Talking about catalogue

Remember when they had the catalogue that let you order single parts? Man I miss that.

>>52997565
Yes.

>>52997524
Actually it's "Skulls for the Throne of Bone".

>>52997561
That's the word I was thinking of. Thanks anon, I'll look into it

>>52997534
Don't worry autist, I'm leaving

>>52997565
All of them?

Chaos will be last though as they don't really offer much that you can't already get between Imperial and Xenos stuff. Tyranids more fun than Daemons, Space Marines are not too different from spiky Marines.

>>52997565
>Eldar, Orcs, Nids, and Necrons lumped into one alliance
>with Tau
what a fucking joke

>>52997240
Would unironically have no problem with this is they seperated the xenos into 3 factions. Something like Xenos of Order and Xenos of Destruction, with Nids remaining their own faction. I've wanted IoM and Chaos to be merged into one faction fot a long time.

>>52997599
>alliance
They're in the same book you fucktard, that's not the same thing at all

>>52997157
Gaurd are a hassle to get shotuns for and Orks are a hassle to make good 'ardboyz for.

>>52997500

All of this may be completely irrelevant come June, but I'll give you a quick rundown.

Gorepack - The gorepack is the bread and butter of a lot of KDK armies. It makes the bikers immune to dangerous terrain, HoW gives the flesh hounds a bit of extra umph and the formation in general allows you to take a heap of fast attacks in an overcrowded slot. Also, melta bikers are one of the better sources of ranged anti-vehicle in the army.

Blood Host - I love it, that 1 blood tithe per turn is incredibly valuable in lower pint games. Once you reach 1750+, it becomes less useful as there's typically enough dying each turn to provide a steady supply of tithe. Since your pool empties any time you spend tithe, there's no point stocking up on it.

In the end I'd recommend starting with the Start Collecting! Khorne Daemons. While Bloodcrushers aren't the best, they're one of the summoning options and sometimes you just need a fast banner. Build the Throne as a Skull Cannon and put the herald on a base.

Note that a lot of people are adamant that KDK is disappearing due to their omission on the new site, while a lot of other are adamant they're staying due to the comment from GW that "your army will be viable". In the end we have no clue and don't believe anyone who says otherwise until GW releases specific comment on KDK.

Personally, I feel that Blood Tithe will return (they've only just inserted it into AoS), but whether that will be with KDK, a formation benefit or something else, we'll have to wait and see.

>>52997635
That would be almost as stupid.

>>52997655
My plan was to go for Anvil Industries and their regiment builder to get a good blob of shotgun Guard going, or going for the Bloodbowl Orks as a base and kitting them out with guns and knives.

>>52997599
>>52997676
>sorting the factions up into general groups so they're easier to find is a bad choice, and also instantly makes them allies
It's as if you want things to be disorganized, anon.

Can't wait to play my fluffy Eldar/Ork/Necron/Tyranid army!

>>52997708
Id say the former then, BB orks have barely a handful of fixed poses.

That gets repetitive real fast.

>>52997721
Just because it would look tidier to you doesn't mean it'd look tidier to me.

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>>52997658
>Note that a lot of people are adamant that KDK is disappearing due to their omission on the new site, while a lot of other are adamant they're staying due to the comment from GW that "your army will be viable". In the end we have no clue and don't believe anyone who says otherwise until GW releases specific comment on KDK.
Weĺl at the very least the omission from warhammer40000.com means nothing.

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>>52997731
Yeah, it's called the NPC alliance now

>>52997248
you paint 180boiz.... like that ?
ho lee fook
We too lo
Sum Ting Wong

>>52997762
Those are Komandoes

>>52997762
I don't even understand what the basis of this "joke" is meant to be.

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>>52997731
Same, got an all-melee Nid list planned out.

>>52997750
It not about looking tidier
GW has to update every army at once, its simpler for them to only publish 5 books at once instead of 15 or so.

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>>52997762

Yes? I'm not quite understanding what you're saying here.

If you're saying they look good, and how could I possibly paint that many to that standard, as I said, it's a very simple and quick technique.

If you're saying they look shit, I'm painting Boyz. I care about quantity, not quality. They're tabletop standard and that's all I care about. This is a model where I do more than just basecoat and wash, because it's a centerpiece.

>>52997459
Get Orks! We'ez da best an' we 'ave lots a' cool lookin, models.

Which fast attack should I get for my ork army?

>>52997835
>>52997797
I don't think he's saying anything just making noised and gesticulating, Like Bill Cosby.

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>>52997853
Waaghbuggies.

Deffkoptas and Bikes are also good.

>>52997809
Eh, I guess that makes some sense, I just prefer armies to get their own codices

>>52997884
They will, this is the 8th launch package.
Hell I thing the downloadable codex's are split by faction.

>>52997738
Sensible. I do like the BB models more than the AoS or 40k options, but I think you're right that a fully army of them would get tediuous

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Hey guys does anyone know if the Rogue Trader reprint is still available at warhammer world, and if so does anyone live close enough that they might be willing to ship one to Aus?

>>52997884
And they will again eventually.
These books are just a temporary format to get everyone updated for 8e.

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>>52997918
There are third party sited too for more armoured orks but it's mostly heads and shit.

Kromlech does armoured torsos but it costs a fair bit.
6 pcs for 6 ish pouds.

>>52997910
>>52997953
That's acceptable I guess, I hope Daemons gets a Codex soon, I guess it means updated Fiend rules sooner.

>>52997853
Stormboyz!

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>>52997147
>First for female Space Woofs in 8E

>>52997968
Well the announcement was initial release for every codex updated to 8th ans then annual updates the the whole line.

>>52997968
Daemons need a new codex to nerf them to oblivion with their stupid spawning shit. That's it really.

>>52997240
Oh look, he posted it again

>>52997992
or keep it as is but use the AoS summoning pool rules

>>52997997
Hopefully somebody'll have a cupcake for Dorn soon. Then we'll have the full set of 'pics posted in every general this week.'

>>52997975
I was goign to boo you out for bad advice, but pistol changes they might get good yeah.

>>52997964
Eh, I may just hold off for now. I feel like if I do start Orks I want them in plastic so they're easier to work with and kitbash as needed.

>>52997992
They could also use something to make nurgle daemons worth fielding.

As is they can ... sit on objectives in cover with melee weapon and hope someone tries to assault them.

Drones at least can do some work.

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So I'm going to be getting some Orks to ally in with my Eldar, and I noticed that GW has Goff Rockas for sale. Didn't realise these guys were a thing, I thought they were dropped back in 2nd. Are they in the codex? Any good?

>play game against Orks
>ork player rolls significantly above average
>consistent 18+ hits from lootas
>4 rolls of AP1 or 2 from snazz guns
>makes 70% of his saves in melee
>meanwhile I hit with 3/10 bolter shots
>fail 14/16 3+ saves
>get a rhino stuck on T1
>lose 4/5 raptors to snap shots
>lord dies to a single rokkit overwatch
>termintors fail to show up until T4

How the fuck am I supposed to react to this shit. I was so unbelievably frustrated watching these dice rolls. Even my partner was flailing around with 1s and 2s the whole game while the ork player was rolling like a god. I hate blaming the game on dice, but after a game like that, I don't know what else to say.

>>52997853
Blitza-Bommers!

>>52998103
Stormboyz are cool tho

>>52998166
Realize that in a game based on dice sometimes these things happen.

If it happens again with the same guy he's probably using loaded dice.

>>52998171
>Stormboyz are cool tho
storm boys also are much more reasonably priced than a lot of similar units

>>52998152
The description literally says they're sold as little bits of the game's history and have no rules.

>>52997751

Interesting.

>>52998152
They don't have rules anymore m8 I'm afraid

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>>52998152

>>52998166
It's Orks thing.
Other armeis may be reliable with 3+ stuff, but enough 5s and Orks blow up.

In a statistical game, Orks get stomped.

>>52997117
This picture accurately depicts truescale marines next to a regular human.

>>52998217
What can you expect from 7' tall super soldiers. Fucking manlets I swear

>>52997923
they dissapeared in 5 minutes

>>52998166
https://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/That's_How_I_Roll_-_A_Scientific_Analysis_of_Dice

Nice read for you, anon

>>52998278
why GW so gay and not make good things available for normal people.

>Getting back into 40k again as an adult
>Buy entire Tau army on a whim
>Realize I can't paint for shit
>Find out about the gray tide Tau meme
>Lose all interest in painting due to lack of skill and potential to "ruin" my main army
>Refuse to show up with gray tide
So I am thinking about starting Tyranids as a way to get a ton of painting practice and get my foot in the door in local groups, anyone have similar anxiety or tips regarding 'nids?

>>52998302
>traded a shittier army for a shitty army
An improvement's an improvement I guess...

>>52998302
>worried about grey tide
>still going nids
wat

>>52998302
I would say get a super tiny elite army and concentrate on finishing them, never try to attempt a horde army for your first go or you'll never finish. Trust me.

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>>52998302
Build some spruce-crowns and practice painting those. Go crazy

>>52998302
You can at least prime, spray basecoat and wash
Would work well for a horde army tbf

>>52998356
just play chess

>>52998344
>>52998348

Not the guy you guys are responding to but

>tfw first time getting into warhammer since I was a kid
>go Tyranids

I'm doomed aren't I

>>52998302
>trading a horde army for another horde army and dooming yourself either way
>the average tau player everyone

>>52998368
Chess has no fluff

>>52998369
Yes, but from what I have seen from other people playing Tyranid armies seem to be like 5 huge unpainted winged monsters and thats it. So that's not hard to manage.

>>52998377
mind canon it, your brave knights and castles and shit.

Also if you care about 40k fluff how can you accept unpainted/undercoated/sprayed brown army?

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Are you ready for Warhammer Fantasy 40000 guys?

I sure am.

>>52998379
>watch lazy waacfags play
>this is a good representation of what a fluffy fun tyranid army should look like

>said the taufag
You literally cannot make this shit up

>>52998386
If he paints the bases brown he can say its adaptive camouflage

>>52998397
I have a fully painted infantry guard army. That shit was hard work. No fucking animu robots for me thanks.

>>52998388
Age of Warhammer 40k 2nd ed. +++

>>52998415
>No fucking animu robots for me thanks.
>he says while purchasing gundam seed destiny the army

>>52998369
8th is here so it'll likely be better

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>>52998434
I don't know what that means

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So has anyone talked about this?

>>52998459
tldt

>>52998459
THE KHAN

>>52998459
how the fuck did I miss this

Man this makes me wonder how quick GW will be pumping the loyalist boys out the door

>>52998457
Ignore him
He's just trying to be funny

>>52998459
I don't understand what this is meant to mean or where this is from.

>>52998459
>>52998471
>>52998485
You know Matriarch means it's a woman, right?

>>52998459
>>52998485
What? How could Khan be matriarch?

>>52998490
Well my guys look like Fallschirmjäger not anime teenagers I don't get it lol

>>52998459
>>52998471
>>52998485
>matriarch

>>52998493
It's from Gathering Storm book 2, its mostly about the Eldar Deathgod chick, but that at the end is a fairly direct reference to Khan, the White Scars primarch

>>52998459
Matriarch you yifftard
Last I checked the khan wasn't a tranny

>>52998499
2nd/11th Founding Female Spezz Marines?

>>52997996
BUY YOUR MODELS NOW. TOMORROW PRICES WILL INCREASE 30%

>>52998511
to Khan who is a woman?

KHAN IS A FUCKING WOMAN NOW

>>52997149
Why is she dropping dice on the models? Did they change how 40k is played in later editions, and you just sling enough dice to drop the opposing army? Bonus points if you break something?

>>52998499
>>52998500
>>52998508
>>52998521
>>52998528
>>52998535
>After a brief exchange with
>his
>fellows,
>he
>chose to remain as her guide

So either this is fucking awful writing by writers who can't fucking keep the gender of mystery genderfluid-kin straight or Fulgrim is helping the Eldar...

>>52998557
What? That's referring to the Solitaire, not the mysterious matriarch character. Are you retarded?

>>52998299
>>52998278
>>52997923
Is there a pdf?

>>52998557
That's the Solitaire. The Solitaire (male) stayed with Yvraine while the rest of the Harlequins went off to find the warrior matriarch (female).

>>52997149
BLACK LEGION, WE MARCH IN THE WARMASTER'S NAME

>>52998584
Hope so too, would love to read it.

>>52998557
You are just bad at english, its written form Yvraines perspective, the Him is the solitaire that followed her and decided to remain Yvraiines guide.

>>52998166
now think about all these times ork player rolled "normally"(or rather failed horribly), you remember any of them? Probably not, i mean people remember stuff out of ordinary but tend to overlook typical outcome

>>52998388
With the modifiers to armor I might actually be able to field my old close combat squads which became useless after the new rules to power weapons.

>>52998654
As a guard player I never got saves nor ever beat armour saves. So this new version is all good for me.

>>52998344
I fully intend on painting every single one and by the time I am done my skills should be good enough to do a respectable job on my main army
>>52998348
I liked this idea too but I am still to scared of the brush to risk fucking up my models
>>52998354
lol these things are hilarious but they would make for good practice
>>52998356
I'm not too sure it would be that simple for the Tau given given the details but you reminded me that spray basing is a thing
>>52998375
>Trying to avoid being an average Tau player
>Apparently makes me an average Tau player
I even dodged riptides to avoid this (and make myself a better player by removing possible crutches)

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>>52998459
It was about Jain Zar.

>>52998758
This faggot couldnt even kill a space marine captain

>>52998747
Armageddon might be your friend, you can play around with painting a bunch of models.

Also never ever worry about fucking up your models, you only learn by making mistakes. Strip em if they look shit and start again.

Why does anyone want female Space Marines when Sisters already have a cooler aesthetic, lore and potential for units? Is it all just trolling?

>>52998780
I want sisters. R-EEE-ESS-PEE-CE-TEE

>yfw we get a new Raven Guard codex

>>52998795
i don't know what that means

>>52998762
You don't call woman a faggot don't ya? And she pretty killed pesky NL before they cowardly used grenade.

>>52998780
>Is it all just trolling?
Yes.

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>>52998302
>Getting back into 40k as an adult
>Plan on buying Nid army on a whim
>Know I can't paint for shit
>but know with the money spent on paints and tool
>and the time investment to get good
>I can pay a studio painter to do it for me
>and have it look 10 times better than I could ever make it
I mean, we're spending thousands on plastic army men, why not spend extra to make them look damn good?

I still have a few survivors of my Grey Knights "Drybrushed Silver" Squad back from 3rd Ed. A small, elite army is probably good for practice. You can also do what >>52998354 did, but also use the extra bits that you don't plan to save to help you paint texture and the like. Last case, you can inquire at local stores about people who'd paint your stuff for you. I know quite a few players who just sit there all day and paint instead of play. Really depends on your area. My neck of the woods has some decent "starving artist" types who can make an army look good on a budget. >>52998354

>>52998780
Pretty much
Plastic SoB would be fine and desu sisters of silence are essentially feMarines

>>52998780
Fetishist who are too timid to make a move on real women want a muscular amazon to sweep them off their feet and take charge of their romantic life.

>>52998770
I have a few teams for swa (Cadian/CSM/Pathfinders) and it's helped alot in the painting anxiety department but not quite enough. I am having some issues regarding paint stripping as took me a very long time to strip a squad of scouts and I think the details are permanently fucked so I am skeptical about doing it to my main force after testing schemes on them which is why I am okay with going the 'nid route as there are a ton of different ways to paint them and get practice doing so while allowing me to actually attend events without being that "tau guy", and besides I've always loved the 'nids since I got my battle for macragge set back in the day

>>52998503
Nigga, there are like a thousand animes about cute girls in german uniforms from all the XX century. You a closeted weeb.

>>52998838
Sums up all the amazon fetishists in this thread and everywhere else really.

>>52997149
M8 go get some mental help.

>>52997218
Wait for 8th.

But.

IF you're gonna footslog those boys make it a 30 man squad, and put ten ork + nob squads in the Trukks.

I say this having never played a game with orks.

>>52998860
>being this upset about a meme
Truly, 1d4ddit has arrived along with the onset of summer

>>52998814
Yeah I know I wont be up to Saint Duncans standard but I'd love to be able to say I painted my army (not to dunk on those who commission, not everyone can make the time its understandable).

>>52998876
It is quite literally the gayest meme ever. Why would you propagate that shit. Are you just a faggot or something? Some kind of cuck???

>>52998888

Stop replying to him. Just report and move on.

Its the same idiots on /pol/ who do it for attention and to troll people / derail discussions.

>>52998814
Everyone who doesn't want to paint should buy an army half the size and get it painted. The world of tabletop would be a lot better.

>>52998844
I just don't know about them even if they exist, I have seen a few episodes Girls und Panzer though that was pretty cute.

>>52998911
>everyone i don't like is /pol/
Fuck the alt-right and everyone who makes a joke that can be even slightly connected to them, amirite fellow reddito- I mean 4channers?

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>>52998883
I can understand that. I prefer taking pride in knowing my things look nice. Or painted at all, if we're talking about my Warmachine group...

Here's a treat; my Inquisitor from 2005-6. One of my few surviving models. You can probably paint better than this.

>>52998939
That's worse than I imagined.

>>52998939
a better standard than 98% of painters. Although i rate the standard by 2nd hand models on eBay.

>>52998939
>>52998949

It's easy to strip paint from models nowadays if you truly feel like you fucked up.

>Thousand Sons, Death Guard, Emperor's Children and World Eaters are coming to 40k

How does this make you feel?

>>52998961
Death Guard is making me wanting to switch to them

>>52998961
weren't they always there?

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>>52998780
makes no sense to me either

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>>52998954

I was shopping for some second hand SoB and came across these "well painted" ladies.

>>52998961
I'm already happy my Sons got updated. Excited to see what the other legions get for their new toys and maybe possible undivided chaos legions too
Unfortunately though, while 8th does seem to be giving me more reason to take more rubrics instead of getting more and more Tzaangors at the same time I have to wait right now to even plan out the squads I was putting a bunch of time and thought into since a new edition is coming.

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>>52998982

>>52998939
I'd just hate to be the one dude who walks in with commissioned Tau of all things you know what I mean? I caught some stares just picking up some units because there is only one other Tau player at my store and he breaks out Riptide wings/suit spams and generally plays like a WAACfag while taking home campaign and tourney prizes so everyone has a chip on their shoulder

>>52998780
I'm mostly bothered by the fact that none of the people screeching for female marines care that marines are pumped full of so many roids and shit that any resulting fem-marine wouldn't even be discernibly female.

>>52998982
One of the few redeeming factors of metal models is that they're crazy easy to strip.

Drop them in a tub of acetone and leave them there for a few days.

>>52998993
THIN
YOUR
PAIN

>>52998982
>>52998993
>>52999020
great progression 8/8

>>52998993

This is making me feel physically sick just looking at it

>>52998939
Honestly with the right brush, a little more time and thinner paints you can do it justice

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>>52999007

That's my problem with it too. I don't think anyone wants an army of Nicole Bass but if those people want waifus in power armour then they already have an option for it. A bunch of cute girl Space Marines would be bullshit.

>>52998789
>RESPCT
Don't know what it means to me.

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>>52999001
Are YOU playing like a Tau WAACfag, or are you just making a list you feel is fun/fluffy?

Don't forget that 8th Edition is likely going to break things all the way. Shooting may not be king anymore.

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>>52998993

>>52999056
what if this is precisely the GW's plan?
Make full of pumped, full on steroids, strong fucking bodybuilders, and when everybody who asked for them start screeching autistically, they'd say "this is what you asked for"

>>52999056
>>52999007
>marines are pumped full of so many roids and shit that any resulting fem-marine wouldn't even be discernibly female
I'm ok with this, should the lore change to support fem-marines.

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>>52999056
That's not even close to how manly they'd end up. They'd literally look like space marines. Imouto marines when?

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>>52998982
Hey even our lord was once a noob.

>>52999115
Thanks. That's inspiring

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>>52999082
What's the problem with well-painted armies? I get WAACfaggotry, thiccmarines, and lore reeee, but well-painted stuff is verboten now too?

>>52999087
GW loses more from that than they do.

>>52999056
Looks like evolution "pro-painted" her

>>52999148
Golden Demon tier painting doesn't really belong on the tabletop, it belongs on the display shelf.

>>52999148
You can be well-painted but if you're topping the scale you're probably either getting paid to paint or doing competition painting. Not the worst of the bunch, but those are the guys who aren't playing army men with you so what good are they?

How much autism would a blue Blood Angels successor cause?

I really love the Blood Angels upgrade but also want to paint blue.

>>52999179
As long as you come up with a good fluffy reason why YOUR DUDES would be blue then have at it my friend

>>52999179

What if you went for blue with a slight reddish tint? Purple on the blue side rather than red. You'd still be loyle to your capo.

>>52999169
>mfw a friend of mine has won at least 2 golden demons
>explicitly tells me not to bother putting too much detail into rank and file troops
At least there's a balance that can be achieved if they're reasonable enough.

>>52999179
Just make them noble in mannerisms and heritage. Lots of personal crests and coats of arms, snooty behavior. Like Ultramarines, but even more insufferable. Have them begrudgingly acknowledge anyone who's not a Space Marine.

>>52999179
They are blue bloods.
Ba-dum-tish.

Some animals have cobalt instead of iron blood which is blue, hu-mon veins appear blue under skin.

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>>52999179
>going Blood Angels
>when Black Templars, the objectively best cc-oriented spess mahreens, exist

>>52999082
Oh heck no, I love my infantry tau and the only suits I plan on fielding are my stealth suits, a few specialist crisis suits and occasionally my lone Ghostkeel (came with the optimized hunter cadre and is very aesthetically pleasing)

>>52997835
>Tabletop quality
You and RGG need to have a pow wow and reevaluate your definitions of that phrase. They kindly both fuck off.

>>52999233
>what are deathwing knights the post

>>52999248
>suffering the unclean to live so you can chase after some cunts who went traitor

What is the picture everyone spams saying its nu-marines and where is it even from

>>52999256
>suffering the unclean
???
Deathwing rapes Chaos Space Marines just as hard as the Fallen Angels

You know, the same chaos marines that are currently ripping the galaxy in half with the eye of terror.

>>52999233
S5 I5 blood angels shit all over Templars and their terrible crusader squads.

Templars are nothing but a bunch of xenos loving wet blankets these days.

>>52999233
>Black Templars, the objectively best cc-oriented spess mahreens

Except BT get easily BTFOcurbstomped 2v1 by any :
Blood angels
Space wolf
White Scar
Raven Guard
World eaters
Emperors children

>>52999235
If they're going to be your main army, then go all out if you really want to. Nobody should judge you if you get them professionally done, and if they do, they're just jealous you can spend that kind of money on the hobby. But if you think you'll be happier doing them yourself and saying you did, do that.

I play with a commissioned army in another game, and the way someone put it to me was like this: you didn't paint it, but you gave input and direction and ultimately approved how your models looked. I've only ever got compliments about it, and some people just suck at painting. And it's always, always, ALWAYS better than unpainted/primered shit.

Hell, even being a WAACfag with a professionally-painted army isn't BAD, if you're having fun. Just don't be a smug douche about it.

>Shopping around randomly
>Find SM demi-company for $150
Tempted to get it but those fuggin numarines have me worried

>>52998557
Wait....you're serious? The Solitaire stayed with her you dense fuck.

>>52998459
They went to meet Jain Zar and come back with her later.

Would you be surprised if GW came up with a female space marine inquisitor character who is the daughter of Girlyman?

>>52998354
Fuck man I think I will make a low budget necron army like this and give it to my broke friend who always wanted to play necrons because shit this is great

>>52999311
aren't spess mehrenz sterile, or is that just a meme?

>>52999311
Yes, it would be a horrible asspull. With the diarrhea spewed by ward and goto though I wouldn't put it past GW.

>>52999311
Considering he boned that Eldar chick, nope not at all. Where'd cheetah guy go? Never here when you need him

>>52999326
As far as I know the lore never talks about that. We do know that the Emperor had multiple children though so it wouldn't be too unlikely that the primarchs had children I guess.

>>52999087
this is pretty much exactly what im after, have them look completely identical in armor, none of this slimmer femcast boobplate bullshit.

>>52999326
They're conventionally sterile (either in actuality, or just from sheer genetic manipulation to be incompatible with normal humans), but are still born from the genetic materiel of their primarch or other spess mareens.

>>52999337
He'll come online in 2 hours or so.

>>52999323
I believe the origin story is some guy got kicked from a tournament for using non gw models so he entered the next with his army made from sprues because it's "technically" gw plastic. Someone correct me if I'm wrong I know this is old as balls

So within the lore how strong were volkite weapons when compared to like bolters and stuff?

>>52999380
Plasma cannon tier

>>52999363

I think you're right. There was the whole deal where a mini had to be "at least 70% GW plastic" so he made his spruecrons as a way of exhibiting the stupidity of it.

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What ever happened to that leak about a box being plastic SoB vs Unidentified Xenos
I wanted it to be the starter kit but since its always spess mereens, can we at least get a boxed game
P-please..

>>52999442
If its any consolation they made a reference to bringing back sisters in both shadow wars and the SoB vs Tzeech daemons stream, something about 3 months

>>52999350
>>52999326
as
>>52999340
said, its never mentioned directly in the lore. Though none of the marine implants directly interfere, its also worth noting that in deathwatch marines have to by the chem geld trait later with xp after character creation if they want to be infertile.

my take on it is that while their equipment generally works, their lifestyle of continuous combat duty and programed devotion makes them functionally celibate if not a formal oath.

>>52999442
There is no such thing
Source: GW employee

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>>52997240
I hope they will do this like that

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>>52999467
>Look babe, the guys and I are purging the unclean tonight, so I won't be home.
>I'm not trying to ignore you, the chapter master is just really laying it on this week.
>I don't know when I'll be home. Late, probably. Whenever I'm done with the assholes who keep shelling us.
>What? I can't babe, my battle brothers are right here.
>Alright- alright! Fine.
>I- I love you too.
>*snickering*
>*click*

>>52999467
Don't slaneshi cultists corrupt Marines by making them jizz or some shit?

>>52999596
basically yeah, thats why its common for the Deathwatch to voluntarily get chemically castrated so the temptation isn't there.

>>52997149
Why does that girl have the face of a 50 year old man?
Is that a british thing?

>Gonna make Nu-Marines
>Likely to have an elite slot in the SM codex
>Likely to have a minidex of their own.

So basically adeptus tempestus.

>>52997248
They look like shit, dawg.

>>52999633
>Is that a british thing?
yes

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>>52998814
>>52998939
Fuck these posts made me see if i could find any models i painted, ive been out of the hobby for about ten years now so this must have been from when i was about 12ish, but not bad for a kid. Anyone can get better at painting it just takes an ungodly amount of time to get better.

>>52999574
>Yncarne thought that space marines would fix the aeldari low birth rates but it turns out that marines fuck even less than them.

If vehicles are just going to have a toughness value, does this mean I won't have to pay attention to my facing anymore?

Point for point, can Dark Eldar Warriors outshoot Guardsmen?

I'm wondering if I can get away with footslogging them

>be eldar collector
>xenos book tells me to collect Orks, Tau, Necrons and Tyranids as well

MY FUCKING WALLET AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

>>52999711
yes.

>>52997157
Shotgun vets work well with both meltas and meltabombs as well as Flamers and a power ax. But without a priest in there your still talking about a small school of minnows in a very deep ocean.

Wait and see which of the two are better off their own in Melee (probably the orks)?because that's inevitably where they'll end up.

>>52999714
Tell me about it, I can have 3 new armies in a matter of minutes but by the time I'm done building and painting it'll be 9th

>>52999720
Using tanks doesn't feel particularly rewarding if they don't have a soft spot I need to protect.

>>52998814
I'd rather paint my stuff myself.
But then again I enjoy painting.

As for worrying about being 'good enough', it's mostly just a combination of having a ton of patience and leaning on the wisdom of Duncan.
Shaky hands are fixed by table, thin paints are fixed by duncan, and there's nothing in the way of you being a decent painter except blindness.

>>52999741
Hey, its what people wanted ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>52999741
Have the soft spot be an HQ transport, it'll get your positioning fix. Oh btw tanks can fire multiple weapons and only suffer a -1 penalty if they moved

>>52999713
Nope, not point for point.

Guardsman also have access to orders that let them fire extra shots and ignore cover.

However, the 5+ FNP they have access to could make a slight difference.

>>52999711
maybe. we don't know the full rules yet

DUDE ORKS ELDAR AND TYRANIDS TEAM UP TO DEFEND AGAINST CHAOS LMAO

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>>52999763
Which people?

I feel like GW is extrapolating too hard.
>'Why are vehicles so much easier to kill than monstrous creatures'?
"You're right! Remove all vehicles!"

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So anyone ignoring Gathering Storm and 8th should also be ignoring all the shit that portrays Primarchs as ridiculous 12 foot demigods instead of the "Imperial Commander" founding marine leaders from the 1st Ed Space Marine depiction of the heresy, right?

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>>52999794

>>52999794
>bigger than ever chaos incursions turning into full blown mega wars
>all the orks within a Gorks dongs distance is attracted to the war
>gorillion souls wage war on few contained sectors, hive fleets picks this up and moves in for the biggest buffet ever
>everything is a semi-permanent standstill of endless daemons, orks and nids

>>52999833

Anyone who wasn't already shutting out portrayals of Primarchs as super perfect super supers who render everyone else irrelevant has no functioning brain cells tee bee kyew aich fampai.

>>52999711
Unknown but that seems to be the case. If AoS mechanics are anything to go by you'll instead have a system where you're tank becomes less effective as bits get blown off it but also less likely to get smashed in by one well placed shot.

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>>52999843
>>everything is a semi-permanent standstill of endless daemons, orks and nids

>>52999890
They've already stated vehicles will have a AoS style damage table that makes them less effective as they take damage.

>>52998993
Over than it looking like shit, why would Sisters of Battle wear make up at all or even in actual combat, really gorks my mork

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BEHOLD THE ULTRA ULTRA MARINE!

How can manletmarines even compete in front of this truescale glory?

>>52997149

You're mentally ill, is this what your life is?

>>52999890
>>52999905
How severe is battle damage in AoS?

What are the chances of Tyranids getting a Synapse or Psychic ability that lets MCs mitigate or completely ignore battle damage (like in the fluff)?

>>52999784
Grade A fucking stupid standard answer.

>>52997247
His bottom

>>52999596
>>52999622
I remember a short story of a Berserker attacking a Slaneshi shrine and getting jizz touched almost to the point of converting gods. They made the mistake of being TOO kinky though and as soon as they bit hard enough to draw blood her went full Khornate again and slaughtered them all.

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>>52997117
1.) What draws alt right autists to 40k?

Not just normal alt right autists, like gay Nazi traps and shit with furry fetishes.

2.) As a real nigga from the hood, am I forced to play Salamander? How do you feel about the Salamanders? On the real nigga scale, how high up on is the primarch?

3.) How much reeeee'ing will my Tau army invoke.

4.) Are female space Marines designed to cater to waifu fucks or thots to ovulate upon tv holiness of real nigga hours?

>>52999574
Is that dude Flesh Tearers?

I don't know my BA successors very well.

>>52999970
It's true though. There is so much we don't know about the 8th edition that it would be plain stupid to jump into conclusions.

>>52999937
Your Tyranids are not tougher than Land Raiders, bad luck chap.

>>52999937
https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Compendiums/warhammer-aos-the-empire-en.pdf

have a skim though there, it has the steam tank and the griffon to give you a sort of taste of what we're likely to see. Although I suspect rather then weapons becoming weaker you're instead get to shoot only a certain number of them or something. Obviously this is all more or less educated guesses though until 8th actually drops

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>>52997599

>More offended with Tau being with the other xenos than the necrons being with their ancient enemy they hate like nothing else.

Why you gotta hate the greater good man.

>>52999986
1) Imperium of man is literally space catholic nazi empire of human supremacy
2) Who gives a shit, it's not the color of your skin that matters, it's the color of your power armor.
3)6.12 autismos per month
4)Try again later

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>>52999431
This is the best thing I have ever heard and it makes me so happy that I am crying right now

Lads is 8e good or is it just age of sigmar in space?

>>53000007
Tyranid's Synaptic control turns their MCs into meat robots who only stop moving when they're blown up or turned to dust.

This has been part of the fluff since fucking forever.

>>53000029
AoS with some very minor changes.

>>52999622
...the deathwatch battles xenos like all day everyday... why would they be more endangered so that they may need such extreme measures compared to other chapters?

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Since they are giving EVERYTHING rules, what do you think will be Slambo-fied and remade for the new edition?
I think we will get a new Johnny

>>53000029
AoS V1.5 with additional shooting focus.

>>53000049
They encounter more space elves, blueberries and nids than other chapters.

>>53000050
>new Johnny
it will devalue all the others

>>53000029
Has all the awesome shit from 2nd edition and the good parts of AoS.
It will be good.

>>53000056
That's alot of things you'd be tempted to fuck.

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>>53000007
>>53000036

>>53000036
And that is hard to represent on TT without being busted as fuck, like army wide EW.
>>53000049
Because Deathwatch is basically a suicide assignment. Even the codex says 7/10 marines don't survive a tour in it, but it is one of the highest honors you can receive on par with being the honor guard of the chapter master.

will sly marbo ever return

>>53000069
Don't forget that some of them might force themselves onto you too!

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>>53000064
No because it will be failcast.
The new slambo didn't devalue the old ones.

>>52998292
>unpublished unverified research
>claims he somehow 'accessed Vegas research'
>claims to be an engineer but has no idea how to do statistical analysis, using woolly statements at the end to discuss the significance of his 'study'
Into the trash it goes.

>>53000070
So It Will Not Die on MCs.

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>>53000070
>Using bombs like a pussy
>Not just choking out all the nids with your massive biceps

>>53000029
it'll probably be like 3rd ed in terms of "good"ness we'll probably have to wait until 40k MK8A2 before it's an actually good games and then it'll be all bloat and shit from there until the next reboot

>>53000069
>wanting to fuck nids
By the emperor, truely the work of slaanesh

>>53000074
>And that is hard to represent on TT without being busted as fuck, like army wide EW.

>Tyranid Psychic Power, mid to high cast value
>Until the next Psychic Phase, target Tyranid MC ignores all battle damage

or

>Tyranid Synapse
>All Tyranid MCs within Synapse range double the amount of wounds needed to suffer from battle damage (or, count the wounds they've suffered as half that for the purposes of determining battle damage, same thing)

Seems pretty balanced to me, considering Tyranids are an army that walks up the board and gets shot to shit before being able to do anything.

>>53000117
I have a vagina and read Mu-Luv. What do you want from me?

>>53000121
>Seems balanced to me
Are you actually retarded?

>>52999986
1. You summed up the entire alt right, not just the autistic.
They a drawn to 40k like everyone - they are too stupid to do something better with their lives. And the pretty dollies.
2. Salamanders ain't g. They barely hood at all. Well, they a little hood. They that crack head or slow little nigga whose mammy drank while she was pregnant; who likes to play with fire. So if that's you, have at it. Not sure who the real niggas are, but it could be minotaurs (space bulls) or maybe the carcharodons.
3. Dunno about the reee, but your paint job is terrible.
4. Female space marines are the next step like removing fur from make believe dollies from a make believe setting in an imaginary time setting. Blame the no child left behind brigade.

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>>52999986
>what draws the alt-right to 40k
We may never know...

>>53000132
I have a vagina and read weebshit and do not want to fuck nids. There is no excuse

>>53000121
Are you ignoring that the most popular armies of nids for years was shooty ones, not CC?

>>52999986
1. Go back to 1d4ddit
2. Go back to the cotton fields
3. Go back to Dakka Dakka
4. Go back to first grade english

>>53000165
Not everyone is you, anon.
>>53000174
Stop taking bad bait, you mongrel dog.

>>52997149
Christ. Look at those dead, soulless eyes.

>>53000143
>all rightwingers who dislike neocons are dumb and autistic
What the fuck even is this logic

Do you even know what alt-right means you buzzword flinging dumbass

>>53000172
>shooty ones, not CC?

Because they were shit and making them shooty was the only way they were half-decent on the tabletop.

Saying Nids are a shooty army is like sayings Nids are an army that revolves around Flying Hive Tyrants with TL devourers.

>>53000195
They were shooty in 2e, 3e, 4e, even when Stealershock was a powerful tactic.
Nids have always, always had powerful single dakka units supported by horde CC. You are propping up the "melee/horde army" meme from 1d4chan.

>>52999179
This got me wondering:
if you want to paint your army whatever color you want but want to use some specific rules, are you able to do so?
How would you react if someone came with a red army and told you they are black templars and play as such?
How would the average sperg react?
And would your Ultramarines painted in green with a green painten Sgt. Tellion be able to play it in a tourney?

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What faction has the best infantry, and why is it the Imperial Guard?

>>53000183
>not everyone is you
Point taken.
Wanting to fuck nids still heresy on highest level. Wanting to fuck eldar or blueberries is less heretical (thou still heresy) since they at the very least somewhat represent the glorious human form the emperor wants us to praise. Nids don't. I will get my bugspray ready.
Praise the booty

>>53000213
I don't know if it's in the most recent one but it is said in the Marine codex that the characters can be used to represent a character from a different/your own chapter rather than the official one. Chapter tactics are pretty much choose a flavour rather than this is the chapter you must paint, I only take Ultramarines because I play Ultramarines.

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>>53000220
No way in hell, fleshbag. Our blobs kill Bio-Titans.

>>53000213
In 5e, you could expressly do that as a part of the rules.
That didn't last long. As a common courtesy, if you are playing a named chapter, you use their colors so people know what they are dealing with. If you are playing a homebrew chapter, you can use whatever you want.
>>52999179 could indeed do it with a chapter of his design, it's not like successors need to follow the scheme of their forebears.

>>52999979
KHORNE BEST GOD

>>53000222
Hey, so girls (and guys) are fans of consentacles, and I'm not gonna judge someone on what gets them going.

post your fluffy xeno armies

>>53000222
What about Squats tho

>>53000284
Abhumans. Still human. Emps approved

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>>53000271
WIP: breacher team 'Roughnecks'.

>>53000314
>no Orks and Nids in your Tau army
Not fluffy enough, you fucking racist.

>>53000270
I'm just saying what the sisterhood told me.
The imperial creed and such.
Burn the heretics.
Praise be the glorious booty of the sisterhood

>>53000323
My kroots have eaten both and carry their genetic legacy within them, double racist.

>>53000025
>>53000143
2.) Big bald swole niggas always the most hold though. Like, he gonna pull up on a nigga.

3.) This was an experiment. I don't paint. I'm gonna make my next set gold so I can flex on these niggas. My army got money and they got shooters in deck that's gonna fuck you up and take your hoes. That's what I wanna convey.

4.) Female space Marines ain't conducive to real good nigga shit though. Like, OK you got perfect military order, now your men all trying to get their dick wet.

Or, now this bitch tryin to have a period in the middle of a battle.

Or now this bitch trying to suck on some side nigga dick real fast.

Or, this hoe tryin to update her Instagram.

Thinking of using Rhinos (11/11/10) as counts-as Taroxes (11/10/10) because
1. Not a fan of the Taurox
2. I love me some autocannons
3. Guard used to have Rhinos both during the HH (history) and back in Rogue Trader days (meta-history).
4. t's retarded they don't make some use of what is one of the commonest chassis in the Imperium.

How should I indicate that the side armor is one lower than on a regular Rhino?

>>53000064

>devalue

So what? My Johnny is in the wip, i'd love it if a ton of people did them

>>52999986

>Suit spamming Tau player

Just like any decent FLGS they simply wouldn't play you

>>53000332
>WhyNotBoth.webm

>>53000332
You're not that chick from Off the Wall are you?

>>53000354
To be fair, anon, he is going with a Starship Troopers theme.
Hammerheads as notMarauders, too.

>>53000362
No, who's that?

>>53000340
Paint it a paler colour than the front

>Tau players have to say beforehand "I don't rush Crisis suits" to have people play with them
kek

When will the Tau Empire turn into Sweden?

>>53000432
They say Ethereals use subtle mind control techniques, so never.

>>53000376
Incredibly cute gal from FLGS with a very vocal similar mindset I havnt had a chance to go talk to.

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>>53000189

>>53000432
That'll be IoM, baby. Enjoy getting your women ELFED while you die in a ditch protecting Girlyman and his xeno waifu.

>>53000470
Yeah, Sweden uses blatantly obvious mind control techniques.

>>53000472
Good to know that I'm not alone.
When you see her, tell her a sister said "praise the booty"