Outsider Update !!!

>>52993333
Was this meant for /co/ ?

>>52993360
I'd call you a newfag but you could have been on /tg/ for quite a while and never seen an Outsider update.

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>>52993360
The author of the comic also mande a tabletop game.

>>52993333
Jesus, I checked this page just today before it updated. It would have been months before I noticed otherwise.

So was it the Umiak, Loroi, or an undiscovered third party who killed the Bellarmine?

>>52993333

Quads confirmed.

>Page 116 on Patreon.

>>52998305

I'll make a note in my last will and testament to my unborn grandchildren to tell your unborn grandchildren what the deal was.

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>>52993333
A Prequel update is n the horizon and Outsider is confirmed for not dead.

Today is a weird day.

>>52993333
End of October my ass. What was the conclusion everyone came to when figuring out how long it would take him to finish his comic?

Think it was at least 3 generations at the current rate.

>>53000112
>Prequel update on the horizon
You mean how he promised he'd update by the end of April and then fucking didn't and had the gall to say
>"And (I) advise all of you to never believe someone who says that they can "knock it out in an afternoon", and doesn't do it within a day."
in the thread about it? How little self awareness can one man have?

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>>53000112
This takes TIME to produce?
What?
This makes Marmaduke look like Berserk.

>>53000196
That's not the update he was talking about. In fact the update in question doesn't even exist yet because Kaz is an irresponsible fuck.

>>53000155
At least Kazerad gave us something to look at while we wait as an apology of sorts. Also he is programming; annoying problems tend to pop up unexpectedly when you do that.
>>53000196
The next update is a flash game.

>>53000245
His explanation was that one of his people disappeared and for some reason had exclusive access to various critical "assets" whatever the fuck that means. It appears that they've re-appeared recently, though, and Kaz at least claims to be working on it.

>>52993360
Newfag detected, please lurk moar
some months moar

>>53000266
>various critical "assets" whatever the fuck that means
It's probably art or something, if he's making a game.

>>53000371
Most likely
The question arises
Why not just remake them or get someone else to do it if they're that important

>>53000266
I believe that he said that he had to remake those assets from scratch.

>>53000384
>Why not just remake them or get someone else to do it if they're that important
I mean, that might be why it took so much time. Assets do take time.

>>52993474
Oh, shiny.
If his autistic attention to detail is anything to judge by, this gonna be gud.

>>52993333
Holy fucking shit.

And I've forgotten the plot thread since I finished the archive.

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>>52993333
>Outsider updates
>Spindrift updates
Truly we live in an age of wonders

>>52993360
>being this fucking new

Leave /tg/ immediately, you are the cancer that is killing it.

>>52993333
Three panels, and nine sentences of dialog. The last update was over a year ago. I'm frankly impressed.

>>53000896
>I've forgotten the plot
That's ok, you've got another year to re-read it before the next one.

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WHERE ARE THE BEARDS?!

>>53001413
American webcomic artists spend years working on a single page and rewrite it up to a million times to produce the finest panels known to mankind.

>>53001681
>had the others on my pc but it crashed.
Lumberjack Fireblade was sexy.

>>53001681
>07/05/10

fuck is this old

>>53001681
I'm laughing my ass off over here, holy shit that's great

Just read through the entire thing. Gotta say I really dig the odd and disjointed way that the Shells speak. Really gives a truly alien feel.

>>52993333
Why are they bullying him. Not even Fireblade was this mean

>>53002834
You don't know. Maybe she has been telepathically screaming slurs at Jardin since the beginning.

WHAT YEAR IS IT?

>>53001718
Redrawn over 9000 times

>>52993333

huh, he has a patreon. i wonder if that means he does drawing streams, where like every three hours he paints in a single pixel.

>>53001681
I was wondering when someone would slap some beards on them.

>>53002345
Yeah, it's actually pretty interesting and well written. Which why I still follow it after 5 fucking years of going nowhere, and why it's so infuriating that there isn't more of it.

>>52993333
Out of the planned 7 chapters, we are only 2 chapters in. Well 1 1/2 and it has only taken 17 years.

>>53003298
Now we're stuck on a boat. In space this time.

Reminder that the blues are physically compatible with humans

>>53003565
What? No. The Insider info says they aren't.

>>53003734
Sexually physically compatible at least

>>53003832
If I can fap to it we're compatable

>>53003832
>Sexy time with blue alien space elves with no chance of babies.

Sign me up sir, I'm ready to do my part.

>>53002834
Well, remember that according to Tempo the Loroi are notoriously blunt. They might not be trying to be mean, they're just not trying to have any tact like she does.

Would you read a version of Outsider, but centering on infantry rather than the navy?

>>53004122
I would read any version of outsided with a decent update rate.
But this isn't really an action-focused comic anyways.

>>53004122
There is some fanfiction on the Outsider forums about militia infantry. The setting doesn't have a lot of infantry combat because ships will scuttle instead of being boarded and planets surrender before the invaders can nuke em from orbit (or they just nuke em from orbit regardless).

>>53004521
>ships will scuttle instead of being boarded
If that's standard procedure why bother having marunes at all?

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Anyone else remember Titan AE?

>>53005433
I just checked the Insider again. Here's the relevant article about foot infantry combat. The TLDR is that every faction has the troops and equipment to put up a fight if there is something worth protecting, but it very rarely happens because of the dominance of space superiority on ground combat.

http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/forum_ground_war.html

Arioch has also discussed things like ground combat on the forums. Spoilers ahead:

http://www.well-of-souls.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1738#p1738

Arioch: Secondary training for shipboard disciplines includes squad-level combat and the kind of formal training in small arms that you would expect for any unit capable of infantry combat. Though the Loroi have dedicated security units (Teidar and specialized Soroin), every member of the crew is expected to be able to be armed and fight in a boarding action. And yes, this means Beryl too (as we will soon see).

- Tue May 10, 2011 5:18 pm

>2011

>>53005852
>And yes, this means Beryl too (as we will soon see).
Wonder if this still applies. Beryl's too pure to shoot someone

>>53006107
She has a kid, anon. Only Fireblade is pure.
pure rage

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This was a cool read, do you fa/tg/uys recommend any other sci-fi webcomic?

The only one I'm currently following is Albedo.
http://stevegallacci.com/archive/edf

>>53006697
Very few with the same theme as outsider

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>>52993333
I want to fuck that elf.

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>>52993360
Anon. I am disappointed in you. Zaku has turned its back on you.

>>53005852
Fucking titan AE was the best. Captured a lot of excited early 2000s/ late 90s feels that have since vanished.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfdQGCiydi0

Also worth mention. Treasure planet

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What's with the glowing colored armor parts?

>>53007099
As long as it has space or a decent future feel in it, I'm interested.

>>53007256
It lights up when you are on duty, other than that it's basically bling.

>>53007256
Ceremonial rank indictors? Maybe so you can find your officer easier in the event of a power loss?

>>53007359
>Maybe so you can find your officer easier in the event of a power loss?

If I recall a QnA thread on the forum correctly is something like that and the bridge generally being darkened during combat.

>>53007285
Terra's pretty good

>>52993333
>a full fucking year

>>53007256
Stillstorm has a nice gaze.

>>52993333
So much detail in background, that damn cockpit

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>>53007256
>>53008936
Who wants to bet that Stillstorm will be one of the admirals calling for glassing Earth after the human's spooky power gets revealed

Someone could make an entire comic series about waiting for Outsider to update.

>>53009027

Hence why we had to wait for a damned year.

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>>53009157
In a million years maybe. I'll invent brain uploading for the author before we see that. Besides, the one that need keeping an eye on is Tempo. Just look at this face, this is a face you can't trust.

>>53009913

She has a face with enough smug fit for an Eldar.

The blueberries lie. You can't trust them.

>>53009913
So...how many eggs would you eat to get a succesful marriage with Tempo if the one with the most eggs eaten would be the winner?

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>>53010234
>a successful marriage with Tempo
>successful marriage with a political officer
Good joke anon

>>53010262
So how many eggs?

>>53010393
10 and the galactic coordinates of Earth

>>53010441
You'd give those out for a handjob!

I'm talking about a succesful, life long, love of your life marriage with Tempo.

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Is this canon?

>>53010234
None, but I'd eat all the eggs for Beryl.

>>52993360
You have to be at least eighteen (18) to post here.

>>53011263
Not yet it isn't.

>>53011263
When did that happen? It's been a year since I last read it. Or was this just a one-off bonus art kind of thing? Also,
>They didn't know that human males didn't NEED to mate every given amount of time
>He could've fufilled the Kirk initiative for god knows how long with goddamn cute blue space elves and gotten away with it, at least until they made contact with the rest of humanity
>But he was too much of a professional/good guy to do so
I don't know whether to be impressed with his ethics or disappointed he forgot humanity's dream so easily.

>>53011546
They offered to make an 'arrangement' for him, and when the fans raised their eyebrows, the artist pleaded innocence and implied they'd provide him some sort of masturbatory device. He's not fooling anyone.

Apparently human men are larger, too (this also raised eyebrows, since the revelation came on the heels of the fact that a bunch of blue space elves had seen him naked).

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>>53011672
Sex with the Loroi would probably end up being awkward and weird. We lack the psychic capabilities to get them off and they don't know enough about us to get us off

>>53007285
There's "Cassiopeia Quinn"

>>53012166
I imagine sexual intercourse is still at least half physical.

It'd be fucking weird, though.

>>53011672
Gender, Mating and Sexuality

> Males make up only a small percentage of the Loroi population (12%);
> All sexual access to males is restricted by law and must be arranged through various kinds of formal matchmaking;
> All Loroi males are wards of the state as regards sexual access;
> Many professions for males are directly or indirectly tied to their sexual function;
> In some cases, a very influential private group or individual may be able to secure long-term access to the rights to a male;
> Sexual rights to a male can be transferred, and he generally has no say in who he is matched with;
> Males are constantly surrounded by females, even in the "monastic" orders;
> Male children are raised separately from the female children, but the caregivers are mostly female;
> If a female caretaker monopolizes too much of her charge's time and energy, or gets pregnant, this is usually grounds for dismissal;

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>>53013363
>> If a female caretaker monopolizes too much of her charge's time and energy, or gets pregnant, this is usually grounds for dismissal;
>female caretaker monopolizes too much of her charge's time and energy, or gets pregnant
>or gets pregnant

>>53013363
Gonna get HUMANED

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>>53013567
Blued

>>53009913
Look at it this way, anon. Tempo and her cronies would probably want to enslave us or something, but Stillstorm would likely want us wiped from the face of the galaxy. Which is the better deal?

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>>53013997
I wonder what the Umaki would do when they figure out we are immune to Loroi psionics.

>>53014105
Dissection to find out how to integrate that into Umiak biology. Or shoving our brains into robots/combat suits a la that one boss in the new Wolfenstein

>>53011474
>This site is graphic intensive and is intended to be viewed on systems with at least 1024x768 displays.
Outsider is over 19 years old. There are people on /tg/ that were born after it started.

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>>53014105
Looking forward to the Mirror - Chapter 11, part 2

“Regretfully and under the laws of the Hierarchy you and your ship are hereby seized according to the non neutrality edict. There is no hope for you. Surrender yourselves and your ship peacefully and the Hierarchy will treat you kindly, resist and you will be treated accordingly.”

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>>53014252
>Surrender yourselves and your ship peacefully and the Hierarchy will treat you kindly
Get out of here with your doublespeak, shell

>>53013713
>millennial_space_opera.jpg

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How would you expand on the setting, anons? If you could run a tabletop game in the setting, how would it go?

>>53015082
Something like this probably

- Player characters are a group that makes contact with Loroi / Umiak
- Depending on PC actions humanity joins one of the sides in the war
- Small timeskip, PCs are promoted to captains or maybe fighter wing commanders
-War
-Depending on how good the war goes and how exactly PC will act it may different outcomes and end in different timeframe
- If the war goes for too long with no side getting a clear win and exhausting each other things get really bad
- Loroi and Umiak locked in their conflict needed to cut the resources for scout and exploration programs and while they subjugated or allied with all the immediate neighbours they were not able to expand their sphere of control fast enough.
- On the other hand some powers closer to the galactic core did have resources to continue scouting missions and now they are eyeing both Loroi and Umiak as potential gains
-Suddenly scale of conflict rises with different other star nations joining the conflict. Some try to get what they want through deals and diplomacy, some through raids and some through full blown invasions.

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>>53014582
>barrel in the dirt
REEEEEEE

>>53015082
I'd probably have the PCs start out as Traders or Military Scouts.

I'd probably throw in a dash of EVE.
A Caroline's Star type event happens with the Historians. Shenanigans ensue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqEn49Dqt5o
A Seyllin Incident happens. Wormholes begin opening all across the cluster.

restart the timer we're gonna have to wait another whole year before page 114

>>53008491
>>53012190
Thanks guys.


>>53009913
I wonder how she looks without the bun.

>>53010234
I'd eat every fucking egg in existence, holy shit

>>53013501
Atlantis was a fun movie.

>>53017129
>I wonder how she looks without the bun.

She looks like sex without the bun

So I saw this thread and gave the comic a read. I really liked it so I checked when he updates it....... Then I realized that it's been a year since the last update. In ~15 years the guy has only done 113 pages, that averages out to 7.5 pages PER YEAR. WTF!

>>53000112
>A Prequel update is n the horizon
Must be really big and really fucking far. Its been in the horizon for a while now.

>>53002834
First time they've seen a male in 6 years. They're overreacting in the opposite direction to cover.

Also, survivors guilt directed at the pink mockery. Those two are the last two survivors of their creche-group.

>>53009913

Did you see how much was redacted on her GURPS character sheet? Girl's clearly got some secrets. Although she likes food from the swamp planet.

Also Beryl has the Xenophile quirk.

>>53009913
>I'll invent brain uploading for the author before we see that
Ok, seriously, it will apparently last 7 chapters. Which means we still got roughtly 400 pages to go, without an eventual epilogue.
That's 400+ years a that rhythm; 33 years with a monthly page, more than 8 years with a weekly page.
We're fucked.

>>53017504
I need pics, not facts, anon.

>>53002834
Do you read that dialogue as bullying?

To me Spiral sounds more flustered and embarrassed.

Maybe it's her poor grammar and calling Jardin an it?

>>53018471
Maybe it's just their bluntness, but outright telling someone that you were betting against their survival seem kinda mean

>>53018421

Well the game he is working on is "finished" so I hope he picks up the pace.

>>53018745
That was Talon, though. It flowed pretty well from their earlier dialogue, where Jardin and her clearly joked a bit. Talon basically told Jardin that he did better than expected, by surviving.

Spiral is the one embarrassed.

Speaking of pilots, aren't loroi fighters just glorified point defense guns? Or is thus more like WW2 air combat, where a torpedo or a few bombs in the right place can do your ship in?

>>53019082
I think they're mostly point defense. With the point defense of modern ships in Outsider, small craft have a hard time surviving PD range. Plus combat ranges are actually huge. They fire at lightsecond distance, if I recall correctly.

Fighters and carriers were the doctrine of choice in the last big war the Loroi fought.

Think of it like this.

Battleships were made obsolete by carriers. But the next generation of battleship with shields and hyper advanced point defense will make carriers obsolete.

>>53002834
>not wanting to be surrounded by tsundere blue space-elves
Why live?

>>53002834

>>53018471
remember they are speaking the trade language. Maybe Spiral just isn't as good at it as the others

Also daily reminder that if humans in space had their genetics tweaked to turn off the growth of facial hair. They probably did it with the rest of their body hair.

>>53019082

They -used- to have a glorious history, as Loroi space combat historically had a lot more fighters in it. But time's moved on, and they're something of a legacy wing now, although as you say, their point defence is useful.

What we'd look at like WW2 torpedo bombers tend to be small ships like corvettes and frigates and the like. Fighter sized compared to the cruisers, but similar in terms of the whole 'agile, killy, fragile' thing. The Umiak make extensive use of them.

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>>53019313
I also like the fact that she says this aloud and doesn't send it telepathically to Talon. Makes me wonder if she is blunt, stupid, or simply dislikes Jardin.

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>>53018295
>check them again
>Tempo: Telesend, Telereceive, Mind shield, Mental blow, Mental Stab, [REDACTED], [REDACTED], [REDACTED], [REDACTED], [REDACTED]

>Fireblade: Early maturation (age 9), Bad Reputation, Half power unless Berserk, Bloodlust, Berserk, Post-combat shakes, uncomfortable around former home, telepathically "talks" in her sleep
>telepathically "talks" in her sleep

>>53020040
Alternatively, they're speaking out loud because they're (under orders to) build a rapport with the only surviving ambassador of a new race.

Or it's just Soldiers being soldiers bantering at one another.

>>53020040
Spiral is justifying herself to Alex. She adresses him directly, after Talon spilled the bet.

>>53020040
Well, she's probably a grunt and cares little for niceties

>>53020170
Fireblade survived an Umaki occupation of her homeworld.

>>53017761
You think that's bad? Current pace is around 1 page a year.

Now somebody else was saying earlier that he intends to have around 7 chapters and at least 400 more pages. Assuming up to 100 pages per chapter, for a total of a 700 page upper limit and current pace. It will be between 12 generations on the low side up to a whopping 24 generations at the current rate.

Even at a 7.5 page per year pace we're still looking at a range of 2-4 generations before he's done depending on page count.

>>53020170
>telepathically "talks" in her sleep
>Fireblade survived an Umaki occupation of her homeworld
Does this mean strong loroi psychics share their PTSD episodes with you? Fireblade and her type seems a bit less appealing now

>>53020882

Makes me think of the old internet blogposts I saw on /k/. Some poor bastard though after the first Star Wars came out, that the movies were gonna be released on a yearly schedule.

>>53020918
Yes, but humans are psychic nulls in this setting, so this has no real effect on them.

>>53020944
When was this Anon? Cause, you know, Star Wars movies actually are on a yearly schedule now.

>>53017761
Each page, folded over thousand times.

>>53020170
I remember that some anon went through GURPS to ddetermine which powers and quirks the redacted ones could be. There should be a pic somewhere in the archive.

>>53021345

Someone was posting very old personal websites from the early to mid 80s on /k/ of all places.

>>53017761
Yeah it's pretty insane. I don't consider Outsider an ongoing comic, more of an exceptional curiosity that resurfaces from time to time.

The problem is partly his job, and partly his SUPER autistic approach to worldbuilding. Arioch models every single thing in 3D before putting pen to paper, to make sure that everything is consistent and makes sense. That spaceship they're in? He's built that thing, inside and out, from the hull to the inner works of its engines, as a 3D model. This is pretty cool, but also incredibly slow.

>>53020918
>>Fireblade survived an Umaki occupation of her homeworld
Where is this from?

>>53021888

Insider and forum postings

>>53021953
thanks

Is there a way to block off psychic communications? Or is bunking in the same area as Fireblade as unpleasant as it sounds?

>>53022142
If there is, it's an Umiak secret weapon.

>>53022142
Loroi can block off telephatics and even control what they send. Some are better at it than others.

Tempo is pretty good. Fireblade is quite poor at it.

>>53022142
>Is there a way to block off psychic communications?
Actual big spoilers: Be a human, or near a large number of them. We're pretty much immune, and don't even show up to psychic senses.

The repercussions of this simple fact is (going to be eventually) the central plot of the comic.

More spoilers: When interrogating Jardin they used the most powerful mind-attack they could on him, and all he got was a very slight headache. The Lorori long-range scanners aren't machines but highly trained psychics, and they can't detect ships with too many humans on them. If the Umiak grab Earth then they could put humans (probably not voluntarily) on all their ships, becoming invisible to long-range scanning. The Loroi would rather genocide us than lose a strategic advantage like that.

>>53022336
Where are you getting it from that humans make others around them invisible to psychers?

>>53020918
IIRC it's said she sleeps apart from the other warriors. Loroi can also screen themselves from psychic emanations. It's how they don't go bugfuck insane in childhood from all the voices.

>>52999581
That is very optimistic. I figure we are talking great great grandchildren at the earliest.

>>53022421
He's inferring it, but I suspect the fact that the Umiak, normally very easily detectable with a farseer, were suddenly undetected, is telling. Like the humans functioned like some sort of jamming device.

>>53023059
That would mean that in 57 days...
>The umiaks captured human scouts
>The umiaks realized that they were immune to the farseeing device and could cloak others (how?)
>The umiaks invaded Earth and captured the population
>The umiak fleets full of humans began the offensive anew.
That seems a little far-fetched.

>>53023059
Eh...the Bellarmine jumped into the system after several Loroi fleets had been ambushed already. There needed to be another dampener effect in play.

>>53020170
Berserk AND bloodlust ? How the fuck she is still in the military and not in some room with soft walls ?

So I see a lot of people throwing around information in this thread I've never heard of in regards to this comic and know for a fact isn't in the comic itself, where are you getting it all? I would love to know the sources so I could go educate myself.

>>53011672
>this also raised eyebrows
Who the fuck is reading this thinly veiled fetish-bait then acting shocked when it contains fetish material?

>>53023377

Insider and forum response by creator.

>>53011672

When I read the larger thing I assumed they were referring to his overall stature rather than the size of his dick.

My assumption is that loroi males are smaller than the females.

>>53023478
Because it's actually pretty good and the author shows an autistic amount of dedication to world building. And really, besides the premise of "qt3.14 blue space elves", there has been almost no fetish bait.

So the blue scaly looking dude was saying how Jardin's existence disproves thousands of years of Loroi "lies', what do you all think that means? Or has there been something on that in the forums?

>>53023685
I get that it's highly detailed and at base it's a story about a lone human living among an alien race, but the layer right above that is 'oh by the way the entire race is sexy space elves and every one is female because reasons.' It's minutae may not usually have fetish material but it's permeated by fetish-as-a-core-concept.

You know, this seemed much better to me before I started going through the forums and insider stuff. Some of these details seem rather silly.

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>>53023753
I think the Loroi lies are that they are the descendants of the Soia, humanity proves that they're just another copycat species.

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Why is this still a mystery?

>>53023932

Soia? Sorry mate, I haven't read all of the insider and forum stuff.

>>53023949
Loroi too have green tinted weapons. They acknowledged it. Considering it was said this types of weapons are rare in their forces they are probably mounted either on light scout ships or some type of heavy assault ship. Both of types could have been hiding in an ambush and shot the humans when their psychics reported that they can't detect them.

>>53024062
The Soia were a precursor race that went around discovering other races and making a blue copy of them to serve as slaves/servants. The Loroi were their shock troops. They had some kind of collapse and presumably died out. The servant races had a society collapse and more or less started from scratch with the occasional boost from an artifact.

The blue races have slowly been finding their original duplicate species. Humanity is the only one that's space bound, the others were still in a primitive state.

>>53024161

huh. Thanks anon.

So who else thinks the reason he was kept in isolation was to prevent the blue bitches fighting over him or trying to jump his bones?

>>53023949

Because the comic is fucking slooooooooow.

I legit thpught that he'd start pumping them out faster wuth his per page scheme on Patreon but instead things got even slower. It's fucked up.

Given the amount he could make too, it makes no sense for him not to start pumping em' out faster. He'd probably get more donors too.

I mean, at this rate, if he began making 2 pages a week it would still take something like 4-5 years to finish.

>>53024161

....slight female shock troops. I'm just not seeing it. If you could engineer species however you liked why would you engineer a species of petite blue space elves as your front line infantry?

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>>53024226

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>>53023949
Umiak ships look rounder than the aggressor, tho.

>>53024223
>psychic powers
>easier gestion of population growth

>>53024223
Put them in power armor and build no longer matters. Telepathy on the other hand gives non-interceptable, non-jammable link for combat groups and also allows them to feel enemies.

>>53024223
Depends on what the other races are built like. You don't need super strong masculine troops if your enemies are fragile jellyfish people.

>>53024330

But then you have to pay for power armor for all of them. And if you could make them psychic, there is no reason you couldn't make another species psychic.

>>53024352
If you can make species psychic you probably have full blown genetic mastery and don't even need going around finding different species. But human ability to resist telepathy and other mind shit suggests that they already had some latent abilities.

Power armor is also much more effective in combat than almost anything you can gengineer. Unless you go for biospaceships.

>>53024352
We don't know that.

>>53024352
Maybe petite blue elves were the most economical package to make for the bio-engineers?
Physical strenght doesn't matter a lot when you're crewing ships or flinging shit with your mind.

>>53024443

Crewing ships sure, they make perfect sense as pilots. Being smaller is actually good for taking g's. As shock troops? it just seems counter intuitive to me.

>>53024429

Power armor is more effective, but again, it is costly. If you can get a reasonable percentage of the combat efficiency of a power armored unit with a species that is simply more physically capable at a fraction of the cost, then it just makes more sense to use a more phyically capable species.

>>53024433

Your point is valid. If there were in fact less skilled at genetic manipulation than I suspect them to have been, then it might make sense if that was the only species they had with telekinetic abilities.

>>53024300

A more balanced gender dynamic with disposable males would work better. The fact that you have more wombs to produce more children is pointless if you throw away those wombs anyway. The reasoning used to justify his fetish is daft.

>>53024548
>As shock troops? it just seems counter intuitive to me.
Maybe the gene for PSIONIC BULLSHITTERY is carried primarily on the X chromosome, giving females higher potential?

>>52993333

I don't even remember the plot anymore besides

>Humans trying to make contact with one of two warring powers
>Human ship exploded
>only survivor cared for by space elves and tries to continue mission

Do you think that might be because... that's all there is to the plot at this point, because the comic updates twice a year AND spends lots of time not moving the plot (idle conversation, etc.)?

>>53024727

This is a possibility, but assuming that was the case why not engineer the species sexual dymorphism to make the females larger and stronger? I admit I have some objection to the use of females as shock troops because it isn't the most efficient use of a species breeding capacity, but more than them being female it's that they are so tiny. There are species where the female is the larger and stronger of the genders, if you were going to use them as troops why not alter them in that manner?

>>53024780
I think they are. I recall reading somewhere that the Loroi men average out at like 4-5 foot tall.

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>outsider update
We're one year closer to Warp Drives, and only 1187 years away from the next update.

>>53024780
They are bigger than the males.
>the average female stands 170 cm (5'7") tall, and males rarely more than 150 cm (5').
The human are just giants from an high gravity world.

>>53024870
But how many years closer to first contact with qt space elves?

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>>53024904
>tfw no qt3.14159265359 space elf to dominate your entire planet telepathically

>>53024904
>>53024859

You know I was going to clarify what I meant and respond to this, but I realized how autisitic I'm being. You know what, fuck it. Blue space elves on the front lines is great. Blue space elves for everyone. For all I know they can pick up tanks with their minds, who gives a shit what their carrying capacity and whatnot is.

>>52993474
Imagine if he could channel the energy and dedication it took to make this into the damn comic

>>53024904
Just imagine. N years from now on humanity finally meets aliens for the first time. And they are blue skinned elf girls!

I think a lot of people would go through a mental breakdown. On both sides.

>>53024962

Xenobiologists who've spent their entire careers pointing out how unlikely it is that whatever we meet would look anything like us and REEEing against rubber forehead aliens would probably commit mass suicide.

>>53024993
Nah.

They'd be celebrating harder than everyone else. They know the odds well enough to understand how fucking incredible the situation we'd have lucked into is.

It's like when a mathematician does the lottery and wins. They know the chances of them ever pulling big are next to zero, and that makes it all the sweeter.

>>53025425

I suppose that is a valid point.

So snu snu with multiple blue women when? How many years do you think we'll have to wait? Or do you think perhaps this update indicates that we may get more regular pages in the near future?

>>53018421

I could do 8 years with a weekly page. It would give me something to look forward too every week.

>>53025561
We'll get into genome modification and/or cyborg bodies way before meeting aliens

>>53014243
That's the case with a lot of things, unfortunately.

>>53025911
So the first thing poor aliens meet would be tentacle monstrosities ?

>>53025941
>The aliens will look more human than us
Hmm, I don't think any sci-fi work has tackled that issue.

>>53025961
Human delegation consisting of a furry, tentacle monster and spider robot "We are all humans. Honest."

>>53025911

...what I meant was how long do you think before the comic gets to snu snu with multiple blue alien women, not how long until we do in reality.

>>53026155
About the same timescale in all honesty

>>53026063
>Alright folks, we've got the Pioneer plaque with us, and you're definitely not humans.
>It's ok if you exterminated them, we won't inquire, but don't lie to us.

>>53023865
Arioch is a bit weird on his dedication to realism. Some things are handwaved as not being realistic while other things just sorta are "it's space magic, whatever".

Not enough to spoil it for me, but enough to make me bummed some things won't happen.

>>53026263

Quite frankly very little of what I've read has anything "realistic" about it, so i'm amazed to hear "muh realism" attributed to him. What, did he come out and say they can't interbreed?

>>53026254

>Implying that the aliens won't also have one beyond the limits of their physiology with technology by the time we meet them
>Implying it won't be just a massive meeting of what-the-fuck-even-is-that-things
>Implying we won't trade bodies with the Aliens

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>>53024262
>>53024246
>>53024226
I remembered this comic when I saw that the guy drawing it was doing the art for Stars in Shadow. Unsurprisingly, the game is exactly like the comic. Barely anything's there so far and it will most likely take decades to finish at the current pace.

>>53024223
>slight
Physical appearance is not a good basis for judging physical capability, when it comes to alien species. Their muscles could denser than those of a human's, which is something that happens in a lot of earth animals, and is why an 80 pound chimpanzee is able to do shit like tear the door off a car.

As for the gender balance, an all women soldiery means the men spend all their time fucking, the women pump out one or two children, and then go on with being soldiers.The various non-combat professions means that even with primarily single-child births they would be able to keep the population growth rate high enough to soak up casualties sufficiently.

>>53024330
Also this. When your military is fighting with fucking lasers and power armour, the raw physical strength of the wearer is not a primary consideration in how lethal they are.

>>53026784

Raw physical capability is however a consideration in how much gear they can carry, how far they can run, how fast they can run, their ability to traverse difficult terrain, and how long they are capable of continuing to fight before exhaustion sets in. It's still relevant. physically weak troops are shit troops because even if they can shoot straight and are therefore lethal they cant deal with battlefield circumstances as well as more physically capable troops.

However your point about the possibility that they could have a different musculature is noted.

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>>53024870
>We're one year closer to Warp Drives
Yeah but those won't be useful until they invent the Gellar Field.

Unless you like going to places where you don't need eyes to see.

>>53026920
Everything in this list, besides endurance, doesn't matter with power armor. And people who train for endurance rarely look heavily muscled. I'd say almost never.

>>53027004
Not that warp Anon. The normal kind. Where no one tries to rape you, your imaginary friends and your cat.

>>53027063

And power armor is likely expensive to manufacture. Assuming that it is economical to equip an interstellar military with power armor seems silly to me. A hand wave really.

>>53026920
They don't have power armors, (they use robots instead). However, being able to nuke things from orbit alongside with sending an invasion force tends to make a lot of physical traits and military innovations completely irrelevant.

>>53027142
If you can afford multi-hundred FTL ship fleets you can get power armor for your shock troops on some odd change that fell between pillows of your sofa.

>>53027194

I know that. This whole thing started because someone said that canonically the loroi were made/used as shock troops. To me that implies boots on the ground, and my point is that they probably wouldn't make for good boots on the ground. I can't believe I let myself get sucked back into this...I was going to try and not get involved in autistic arguments today. Damn it.

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>>53027274
>.I was going to try and not get involved in autistic arguments today.

>>53026409
I tried it early, it's fun,if basic. The combat was slow as fuck tough, so I moslty used the auto.

>>53027258

Actually no, not necessarily. For instance at one point spain was able to afford a massive armada (the spanish armada, you may have heard of it) using gold from their american colonies, but they couldn't even afford uniforms. They were struggling to pay for muskets and arquebus. Historically speaking just because you can afford a navy doesn't mean you have money to lavish on your ground troops. In fact it often means a large portion of your budget is dedicated to said navy rather than your ground troops. Saying they can pay for x so they can pay for Y is not an airtight argument, because they may be able to pay for x because they don't pay for y.

>>53027392
That was mainly due to insufficient manufactoring abilities (caused in part by Dutch raids destroying harbours). For example they didn't have enough barrels, and not old enough, so their food ended spoiled.
Your point still stands, but I just wanted to lecture people on 4chan.

Remember when he updated the comic multiple times in one month after there being no movement for years? We thought the world was going to end.

Good times. Good times.

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Do you think the entirety of the Loroi military command are stone cold ice queens like Stillstorm? Why is she like that?

>>53028236

Dammit my dick. Are there more like this?

As for the question canonically she's been fighting the war for 20+ years and has outlived pretty much every other commander in the military. After twenty years of watching your people die and having to deal with their dumbass replacements you'd probably get pretty tired of peoples shit. At least that's my opinion. Obviously they aren't all like that, because we saw those two captains betting/joking about killing the bugs.

>>53028236
25 years on the front lines straight.

>>53028236

Stillstorm has long been a political opponent to the current Emperor in the sense that she opposes the Emperor's policies, but was never a "rival" in the sense of being herself a candidate for that office. However, Stillstorm's current situation is a little bit more complicated than just a case of being a political opponent.

At the time that Greywind came to power in 2140, things were going very badly for the Loroi, and there had been bitter disputes within the government about whether or not to increase the powers of the Imperial office in the name of war necessity. The Loroi Axis was a "loyal opposition" party that had traditionally opposed expansion of central authority, and so they were very much against approving emergency powers, whereas others (of whom Greywind was an outspoken example) advocated the argument that such powers were essential if the Loroi were to stand any chance of avoiding being overwhelmed by the Umiak. The previous Emperor Eighth Dawn had conservatively resisted such reforms, but when she was killed in action, there was a major political power play within the Diadem, and when the arm-twisting was over, the expansionists had won and Greywind was appointed to replace the deceased Emperor.

Knowing full well that Greywind intended to declare martial law and nationalize large sectors of the Loroi economy, a group of Axis leaders along with some loyalists of the dead Emperor (and some civilian industrial magnates who stood to lose much in such reforms) actually attempted to overthrow Greywind in the months following her accession. However, since Greywind's faction was backed by the Mizol, they knew this move was coming, and the internal conflict that ensued was short and one-sided.

>>53028444
Stillstorm at that time was an up-and-coming senior captain (already more than 100 years old, as most of the senior members of the officer corps then were) who was a known member of the Axis, but not a major political player and not tied directly to the revolt, so she survived the purge that followed. Afterward, Stillstorm proved a loyal and capable officer, serving with distinction under Sunfall in the controversial Tithric campaign, and though her political affiliations were never forgotten, Stillstorm continued to rise in rank and influence.

However, the catastrophe that ended the Semoset offensive in 2146 was devastating to the Loroi military, costing them nearly a third of their fleet and the cream of their officer corps. Stillstorm lost most of her comrades, including both of her daughters, and she herself sustained near-fatal injuries when her command cruiser Silver Cloud was shot out from under her in the Battle of the Tasinei Ways. She spent several years afterward recovering, during which time she was declared to be psychologically unfit for duty. At one point she cut off her own hair, which is a symbol of expulsion from the warrior class (and the reason why she currently has such short hair for so elderly a Loroi). The consensus was that she had simply been pushed past her breaking point.

>>53028465
At length, Stillstorm eventually recovered sufficiently to return to duty, but she had been demoted during her hiatus, and she had a great deal to prove to convince her superiors that she could still be effective. This is when she agreed to be assigned to raider duty. Stillstorm proved very effective as a raider captain, and it was not long before she was restored to her full rank of Lashret (rear admiral) and given Tempest as her flagship. However, Stillstorm was never again the same person she had been before Semoset. Her personality had become brittle; she gained a reputation for harshness bordering on cruelty, and was sometimes given to erratic behavior or taking seemingly unnecessary risks. She also became more vocal in her opposition to the actions of Greywind's government. This together with her excellent performance in her current assignment made her superiors reluctant to promote or reassign her. So she remained on raider duty, surviving against the odds year after year and racking up statistics that made her legend grow, even among the Umiak. But even this legendary status began to work against her, as it fed the whispers that had first begun when she survived the loss of Silver Cloud that she was bad luck (that is, draining luck from those around her) and that to be assigned under her was a death sentence.

>>53028444
>>53028465
>>53028492

On the one hand this is kind of cool to have. On the other hand I wish he would actualy put out comics, and show and not tell all this shit.

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>>53028324
>Dammit my dick. Are there more like this?
Nothing that lewd, unfortunately

>>53019082
>>53019759
>>53019265
Did some reading on the insider about this.

From what I've read it seems to me that Loroi fighter craft went out of style in the current Loroi-Umiak war because of how the Umiak fleets are composed. Loroi use cruiser-based fleets with a core of battleships, carriers and a picket of escorting destroyers. The Umiak prefer to use swarms of cruisers and destroyers with a small core of battlecruisers and the occasional superdreadnought. Each ship is capable of carrying parasite corvette/gunboats, even the destroyers.

Fighter craft are a huge advantage because the Umiak can't field any of their own and they counter gunboat swarms, but they have trouble directly attacking the enemy fleet head on. Raider fleets like the one depicted in the comic try to kite the enemy around and pick them off with their long ranged pulse cannons. If the fighters attack the enemy has nothing else to shoot at, this is in contrast to pitched fleet battles with massed Loroi battleships backed up by carriers where fighters screen the bigger ships and draw fire away as they advance. But the Loroi are short on heavy starships because most of them were encircled and destroyed during the last major fleet battle.

So I'm fairly certain that Beryl and Tempo at the very least are interested in him based on how they act. Who else do you all think is? Fireblade? I mean on the one hand she seems like a cold bitch, but on the other hand I can think of a few panels with her that seem suggestive. That one on the couch for instance. What do you all think?

>>53028953
I think Fireblade is mildly pissed at the whole thing. She's being taken off active duty to keep an eye on this pink man that's obviously not even a warrior.

>>53028324
>>53028337
>>53028444
Would she empathize with Jardin after things get sorted out?

>>53029061

Yeah that's what I would assume as well, but I swear there is foreshadowing. Maybe I'm just reading into things too much.

>>53029141

Eh, I doubt she'd be willing to equate the loss of one ship to the losses she's suffered over a prolonged period of time.

>>53029141
No. He's not a telepath which makes him untrustworthy, and by all measures a greenhorn. At best, if she was in a situation where she couldn't ignore him and she's in a good mood, he'd get orders or tough love.

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>>53027089
Well, only if you don't screw up.

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>>53029288
>or tough love.

>>53029316
>The jump has gona awry, sir!
>Tell me, are we gonna whiff or doink?
>Actually, it looks like a ow!, sir.
>Damn it.

>>53029318
Not that kind. More like "Can't handle a single ship? Resign immediately."

>>53026326
Consider for a bit a scenario where other alien species gain space travel from the ruins of an advanced precursor civilization but humanity has no such luxury and has to develop space travel on their own. For example the one that made them from human genetic material in the first place (the reason they look human).

Since technology advances at a fairly steady rate, if humans are forced to develop space flight on their own they would be at a similar stage in other technologies like mind uploads, genetic modification and AI. On the other hand, a race that has the benefit of the ruins of a precursor civilization could have strange gaps in their technological advancement, either due to incomplete understanding, faulty archives, or simply not needing to develop base technologies required to discover certain theories.

It could happen, for example, that FTL travel is relatively easy to execute, but the theory for it is hard to understand, so it could happen that a race that got the secret for space travel early could be running their spaceships on the computing power equivalent of one of our cellphones from the early 2000s.

Similarly with genetic engineering and other sciences.

Basically, a race that had to discover space travel on their own would be more uniform in technology level than one that had the benefit of a precursor race to copy notes from.

>>53029455
We have seen the Loroi's utter NIGHTMARE of a counting system, so it isn't that far fetched

spbp

>>53028879
>Raider fleets like the one depicted in the comic try to kite the enemy around and pick them off with their long ranged pulse cannons. If the fighters attack the enemy has nothing else to shoot at
Wouldn't fighters be good at this? Send a handful of fighters loaded with ASMs, and fire them en masse to overwhelm point defenses. If the bugs catch the squadron, it should be comparatively minimal losses for the Loroi

>>53029514
It's worse than I thought.

>Numbers are formed using a bijective base-8 numeration, with eight digits representing 1-8, and no placeholder zero. There is no formal digit for zero, and null values are formally written as "nothing". Various notation versions have differing shorthand for representing null values.

http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/loroi_trade_numerals.html

>>53029715
For those wondering what that means, it means that 20(in base ten, what we use) would be written 18.

Yes, this makes math WAAAAAAY more complicated

>>53029715
>spacefaring civilization without the concept of 0
I dunno, zero is pretty fucking important for a lot of modern math and physics.

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>>53029715
>Ten fingers
>Numerial system based on eights
>No number for zero

>>53029715

See this is the sort of shit that makes me think the author is absolutely daft.

>>53029770
Wouldn't it be 24? 2x8^1+4x8^0=20 base 10

Wait, wait.

I remember reading this back when it started when I was in high-school. I think it was up to page 30 then. That was a very long time ago.

You're telling me that it's been who knows how long and he's only up to page 113?

>>53029840
herp, yeah 18 (Base Fucktard) should be 16 base ten.

Ignore me, I just got out of my FUCKING DATAMINING final and my brain is fried
>>53029856
That is correct.

Welcome to the shortest longest running webcomic

>>53029787
>>53029804
I haven't read anything related to the backstory of this in years but aren't they basically an interstellar cargo cult that was lucky enough to salvage several operational factories and data banks?

>>53029715
Based on a binary computer system with the first few bits permanently corrupted?

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Just be thankful that the Loroi don't have Ms. 'I'll genocide your people for getting in our way.' leading them anymore

>>53030251

Her hair is magnificent. I would fuck that.

>>53030251
She'd stand no chance against head pats

>>53001755
>>53001681
There's more?

Please, somebody, grant us this!

>>53029885
>>53029840
>>53029770

20 in decimal = 24 in octal = GZ in Trade-8

> In Loroi Trade, the alphabet characters double as numerals


Loroi Trade Numerals
http://well-of-souls.com/outsider/loroi_trade_numerals.html

>>53030438
Makes me think the early days of the Loroi space program would have been an amazing trainwreck to watch.

>>53029701
Normally yes if you think of this in a WW2 context. Large swarms of fighters can inflict damage with little to no risk to their parent carriers. From what I've read the comic explains this away in several ways:

>The Loroi can't afford to expend torpedoes (not even fighter-sized ones) en masse like the Umiak can, so a strike that overwhelms the enemy point defence would be expensive and not very efficient.
>Point defence tech is too good for fighters to be deployed on their own (unlike say, WW2).
>Unless a fleet has a dedicated carrier attached to it fighters will often be outnumbered by enemy gunboats.
>Only carriers and high level command ships can carry attackers, all other ships are limited to small interceptors.

On paper at least fighters have high firepower, they just can't use it in the type of battle depicted in the comic. We might get to see bigger fleet actions later.

>>53030556

>Alright, so now we just need to calculate the rockets trajectory and we'll be ready to go
>Actually we're still trying to figure out the fuel to weight ratio
>I thought we figured that out months ago
>there was a problem with the math, we need to do it again
>Again?
>Again.
>...Alright, new plan. We just keep launching rockets until something works.

>>53030315
I wonder how long Loroi flag officers spend just doing their hair. Only for it to be ruined in the midst of combat How intimate would it be if one asked you to help her with it?

>>53030556
Probably not only the early days. Metric/Imperial conversion still manages to fuck up joint missions with NASA every now and then.

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>>53030357
Found one of them.

>>53030774

Amazingly the beards actually work. I mean I know they are edits, but they actually work.

>>53030774
perfection.

Remember the crazy guys who projected a double update?

>>53006697
If you're willing to put up with bad art:
>Schlock Mercenary
An ever-changing crew of mercenaries deals with interstellar politics and warfare in a surprisingly hard sci-fi setting. Facing problems such as genetically engineered suicide bomb diplomats, hive minded serpentine lawyers, running security for AI constructed holographic pop boy bands, being cloned / replaced / tortured for information by a genetically engineered ancient race of galactic travel overseers, accidentally stumbling upon an archeological discovery whose raw materials are more valuable than several entire planets, accidentally achieving a form of immortality, and running out of Ovalkwik. Updates Daily: currently almost 17 years of archives, watch the artist's art improve ever so very very slowly.

>>53023368
The Loroi have very different definitions of "acceptable losses".

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AHA! I found the other one, thanks Warosu. I guess you really do save full images as long as they're not from 2012. This is the only other beard pic that I know of, though there's nothing stopping people from making more.

>>53030865
they didn't project a double update, we actually had one last year. 2 updates in the same month

>>53031156
Madness!

>>53023795
It's not, but purely on the grounds that the Loroi are a straight-up knockoff of a race from the MoO series.

>>53006697
If you don't mind terrible jokes and story arcs that take literally forever to complete, even while updating three days a week:
>Freefall
A genetically engineered "Bowman's Wolf" (clean furry) finds herself as the ship's engineer on board the Savage Chicken, which is a dumpster fire of a spaceship, stuck on a freshly colonized (and still being terraformed) planet. They just introduced large bodied vertibrates, and most people live off of a mixture of algaes and cricket protein. The funny thing is, she was *supposed* to be on a distant, much more prestigious posting, but the ship's captain: an alien squid monster that lives inside a hostile environment suit, stole her while she was still in cryostasis because he couldn't afford to actually hire an engineer, and he's a kleptomaniacal troublemaker. Despite all this, and some gratuitous abuse of her AI / non-human status by Ecosystems Unlimited, she manages to save the colony from almost certain destruction at the hands of an irresponsible idiot VP who just wanted to make himself the richest person on the planet.

>>53027330
It feels like an 80% complete MoO 1 at the moment. I doubt they're going to abandon it in this state but it's definitely not worth the 23 bucks they ask for the game.

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>>53023795
>>53031179
Yep, I wouldn't call them a total ripoff because they have unique elements too, but the Loroi definitely borrow heavily from MoO2 Elerians. Beryl, Fireblade and Tempo are dead ringers for the Science/Military and Intelligence officers.

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The ships of the green faction in MoO also have obvious similarities.

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>>53029837
It's actually stated in the Extras section that the Loroi think math and science are for nerds. Most of their tech comes from other races or is discovered in ruins. Also see >>53030049

IIRC if the Loroi discovered that it took humanity 100 years from inventing the first flying machine to space flight they would be beyond bewildered since it took the Loroi a millennia to do the same.

>>53031156
To think, we almost had a triple event except that Arioch waited untill the second of February.

Though we did have one November 2015.

>>53031538
60 actually

>>53031179
>>53031450
I mean, being cribbed from fetish bait doesn't render it not fetish bait. Quite the opposite, I think...

>>53031660
if you count hot air balloons, we started flying in 1793.

>>53031787
Oh shite, sorry. I was thinking of sustained flight of the Wright variety.

>>53031787
If you count kites you can probably chop off a few additional centuries.

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So realistically, what role would humans have in the Loroi war machine? aside from combat husbands

>>53033411
Probably infantry or, more than likely, just providing a dock and resources

>Farscape if everyone was Chiana

>>53033411
Mechanics, technicians, supply/logistics officers.

>>53033411

We don't really have much to offer except for bodies and perhaps our limited industrial capacity. Our entire fleet is smaller than a raiding party. So mostly all I can imagine they would want from us is our dicks. Theoretically we could fulfill any role they do that doesn't require psyionics, but the only thing that is uniquely useful about us from their perspective is how many near loroi males we have.

>>53033411
We're pretty far out from the front lines. Like way the hell out.

So we'd be a perfect stop-over point for any raiding force looking to get around the front lines to hit the enemy's core. Like Space Belgium, basically, but The Germans/Umiak don't actually know we're there and have been slamming themselves into the Maginot line over and over instead.

>>53029804
Daily reminder that the number 0 was absent from a lot of ancient human cultures as well, including the Romans and Greeks.

>>53033994
And look where they are now

>>53033994
If there's something the Greeks don't have a lot of today, it's zeroes. In their bank accounts

>>53033994
Yeah but the number 0 is pretty crucial to our understanding of the world and a lot of advanced math relies on 0.

Basically, without 0, humanity wouldn't be able to achieve spaceflight.

>>53030669
>A Loroi woman can have permanent jizz rights to a male
>You will never be a Loroi battle queens doting jizz machine, making sure her hair looks just perfect before she goes to exterminate another helpless race that just wanted to stay out of the war

>>53034163

I thought they weren't allowed the exclusive or permanent services of a male.

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>>53033411
Well the human homeworld is 217 light years away from the Loroi Empire and FTL in this universe can only safely jump about 5-10 light years at a time because it's point-point between stars. If you imagine the two major belligerents as fighting over a maginot line dividing an island the size of western europe, humanity is basically Malta and our scout ships tunneled up from beneath and emerged on the front line.

So we are really far out of the way and possess basically nothing that would affect the war effort. Human manpower could fill factories and farms and probably be trained to use Loroi equipment without much difficulty. But even manpower is difficult to transport all the way there, let alone raw materials or manufactured goods.

In the longer run humans as a client state would dominate science and engineering disciplines as Loroi consider these to be too nerdy for the warriors to bother with. The Loroi rely on their allies for tech for the most part so this isn't unusual. They might consider us a possible threat because of this if not for the ease of keeping the human population in line with blue waifus.

Arioch also mentioned that chocolate is basically catnip for Loroi.

>>53033411
Human worlds are said to be very far from the frontlines but the bugs are slowly encroaching their way towards humanity. So going by the scenario that the Loroi reach us first we'll be jump off ports to conduct raids into Umiak space and be used as logistical support as >>53033613 suggests. Maybe even provide security forces so that the Loroi can free up personnel for future operations

>>53034332
They can request it. Under certain circumstances and if the female has a good rep she can ask for it even though it's discouraged. It's been a while I forget the details.

>>53034391

>you will never have a sexy blue alien girlfriend who you can bribe with chocolate
>Who you can get high with chocolate

dammit why?

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>>53033994
You don't really need a 0 to be good at Geometry anon. Anything beyond Geometry like Algebra, Trigonometry, or Calculus requires you have a 0.

>>53030049
I want to say you could theoretically do Boolean algebra with their number system. You also could do basic computations though you would have to do it with octals instead of hexadecimal which would suck ass. Of course that is implying that they don't actively have a hexadecimal system. Though if they didn't it would hilariously gimp their computers.
>mfw the Loroi would have to use more space to store/manage less data.
111 = 8 = R
1111 = 16 = F in hex or RP in Trade
111,111 = 64 = F3 in hex or RR in Trade
1111,1111 = 264 = FF in hex or RRE
111,111,111 = 512 = FF1 in hex or RRR
1111,1111,1111 = 4096 = FFF or RRRR in trade
111,111,111,111 = 4096 = FFF or RRRR
1111,1111,1111,1111 = 65536 = FFFF RRRR1
And it keeps getting worse.

>>53033492
>>53033613
>>53033906
>>53033955
>>53034163
I guess or lack of psychic signature would make us useful against other Loroi. Maybe some spooks would want us for that

>>53033411
Give them a better Mathematical system
They really don't Zero in their numbers and relly on old tech to get around. They need older races to create their tech

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>>53034762
Whoops, my mistake the numbers should read 7, 15, 63, 263, 4095, 65536
and the last trade number should be RRRRR1. Though if we are counting the numbers being stored, then the previous numbers are correct (0 - 7 = 8 numbers). However, my point still stands.

So, does this guy spend all his time worldbuilding for his comic instead of actually drawing the comic?

>>53034978

Feels like it.

>>53034978
Not all his time just more then theirs any logical reason too.

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>>53034793
>Human espionage among aliens
That actually sounds kind of cool

Loroi society is obviously fetish bait for humans (mostly human males), but now that I think about it, Human society seems like it would be fetish bait for Loroi females.

I can just imagine some young, perverted Loroi writing steamy fiction about a society of alien studs where sex is something that just happens constantly with no form of government oversight.

>>53035594

Yep. But this makes me wonder, it's mentioned that he's bigger than loroi males. 5ft is tall for a male Loroi, for us that's really short. Would the larger size of human males be a turn on or a turn off for Loroi women do you think?

>>53035681
I dunno, how do you feel about 6 to 7 feet tall, muscular women?

we need a HUMAN'D edit

>>53035704

Actually being over six feet myself I would have no problem with a 6 foot woman. I also have no problem with muscular women usually. Fit girls are hot, its only when you get into chicks who juice or do body building competitions that it gets weird. If she was 7 foot and taller than me...well that would be somewhat odd, but if she was attractive enough and had a good personality I could dig it. I think.

>>53036086
Well, there's your answer to the Loroi question. For some it would be a fetish, for some a turn on, and for some a total turn-off.

I suppose if the male matched their standards of beauty (whatever those might be), they could overlook the height issue.

Just like you said, hot women are hot even if they're taller than you.

>>53033411
We're way out there right now, so in the short terms, maybe they'll assimilate pre-emptively and that's it.
In the long term, if they find out we made everything from scratch, R&D.

>>53035704
Anon please, you can't say things like that in public.

Every time an update for this comic comes out, it makes me want to play a 4X space game, but I can never find one that satisfies the particular itch this comic provokes because the alien races in those games are usually cardboard cutouts with little characterization, so beating them is never fun.

>>53018263
They were re-assigned from fighters in an effort to keep them alive long enough to train the next batch.

New thread?

>>53034391
>if not for the ease of keeping the human population in line with blue waifus.
Let's be honest, if any female intelligence officer get her hands on Jardin's report, we gonna ally with the Umiaks.

>>53009962
Tempo has already admitted several errors on the part of her people, apologized profusely to Jardin for any indignity he may have suffered at Loroi hands, and stated flat out that the war may well have been started by her people.

Under no circumstances would any eldar do any of that.

So why did they lock him up for a week with no given reason? And why hasn't he said anything about the other scouts if that's predictably going to be important down the line.

>>53037637
Well yeah, but she seems to be from the Loroi's equivalent of the CIA, so she's probably got tons of plans going on. Perhaps I'm reading too much into it, but it also seems like the rest of the characters don't trust her much.

Also she has a smug face, that anon is right. Her default look is smug.

I don't buy her "nice elf" routine.

>>53018745
Soldiers do that kind of shit all the time.

>>53023175
Or simply being around a human fogs the "sense" of those Loroi assigned to long range detection.

>>53037685
She is only being nice on a superficial level. In effect she's just treating him like an asset.

She and Beryl only seem nice because the other officer representatives are Stillstorm who'd sooner toss jardin out the nearest airlock and Fireblade who won't talk to him. And even then, Beryl is essentially a biological database.

Spiral & Talon actually seem approachable because they're grunt level soldiers talking to a scooped up curiosity they rescued themselves. I disagree with people who think they're mean, they seem the most humane blueberries introduced thus far.

>>53037685

Captain doesn't like her cause military types never like political officers.

Beryl doesn't like her because she's competition for Jardin's dick.

>>53037821
>Beryl doesn't like her because she's competition for Jardin's dick.
The blue space elves have a social taboo against competing for dick. Arioch has made it abundantly clear in his writing that they're all about sharing.

>>53024246
I really enjoy how the human navy and technology is vis-a-vis their more advanced adversaries.

Human ships are bulky and slow, can comparatively underarmed. They can however take a mind numbing amount of punishment, and as Arioch put it "kinetic energy and nukes, are still kinetic energy and nukes." Every capital ship in the Loroi and Umiak inventory outguns a human capital ship...until/unless that human ship manages to get into what amounts to brawling range, at which point they outgun everyone.

>>53037841

Riiiiight. That's why he's also got stuff he's said about the legal ramifications of women trying monopolize a dick or use one unlawfully. Face it man they try to regulate that shit but basic biological drives to compete for reproduction opportunities are still going to exist. To me at least it's clear that Beryl is trying to get a leg up on Tempo with Jardin.

Do you think he's got the seven chapters planned out already?

>>53037795
Tempo says "it can't detect you here, while you're standing in front of me". Which seems to imply that there's nothing where Jardin's "soul" should me, not that everything is clouded.
Plus the Umiaks wouldn't know of the human presence camouflaging everything, and Tikkitik 27 especially mentions jamming the far-seeing device.

>>53024623
Such a gender imbalance lends itself to very rapid population explosions, however. The author has also stated that Loroi mature faster than humans do, with the average recruit being 12-13, and the average experienced combat veteran being 15-17.

New bread

>>53037945
>>53037945
>>53037945

>>53037892
Sure, but they're not explicit about it. Even if it is what you're implying, it's probably unconscious.

He specifically wrote that openly competing for dick is just about the worst thing you can do. So they're probably good at squashing their jealousy in public and in private. Loroi probably have a hard time admitting to themselves they're jealous.

Personally I think Beryl's dislike of Tempo is more due to their respective professions.

>>53029061
>Not even a warrior.

Thats going to be a fun one. Jardin joined the explorer corps because he wanted to get out into space, but the Navy wanted him bad because he kept trashing their most difficult sims and exercises, and embarrassing admirals at their own game.

>>53024223
You're looking at this the wrong way. They are the only species about with telepathic and telekinetic abilities, that's what makes them efficient soldiers, not their physical capabilities. Besides, how strong do you have to be to fire a gun, especially a beam gun?

>>53024623
That's how insect states work, where the females don't have to actually carry the babies. A men can (theoratically) impregnate dozens of females over the course of a month, but a female only carries 1.x babies during the gestation period, so that is really the limiting factor. This only would be offset if the losses among the female population were so massive that the gender ratio would be balanced by it.