Gimme some seldom done settings/inspirations the Late Roman

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>>52981374
>loving litteral shit

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>>52981403
What's your problem bud

>5th Century roman centurion
>Not a blue eyed blond haired 7ft tall aryan
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

How about prehistoric human settings?

Heard there's a GURPS book for it but don't hear people playing it much.

>>52981538
There's a GURPS book for everything. I'm pretty sure there's a GURPS book for playing a campaign set entirely in my asshole.

>>52981571
>I'm pretty sure there's a GURPS book for playing a campaign set entirely in my asshole.
GURPS Basic Set

>late roman empire
>siberian tribes
>west-african kingdoms
>oceanian tribes
>central-african kingdoms
>south-east asia
>pre-spic infested north-america

>>52981571
There is but it got shit reviews

>>52981538
The problem with GURPS books is they inevitably make the settings they try to present incredibly dull by dragging the reader through endless pages of marginally relevant information written in the most boring textbook prose possible.

>>52981374
>thinking foederati were actually human beings

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Man, Central Asia would be my jam.

>>52981606
>marginally relevant

You try to write a setting primer for a simulationist RPG.

>>52981374
I´d like to see an Napoleonic Wars/Victorian Era european steampunk setting sometime.

>>52981606
I thought the idea with GURPS was it could be as complex as you wanted it to be, can't you just pick and choose what you want?

GURPS Ice Age is the one I think, from what I've heard food has a kcal stat and you need to consume enough calories to survive. Sounds like pure autism but I'd quite like to try it.

>>52981619
Central Asia is often used, but never at the center of a setting. Quite the shame.

A Central-Asian campaign would allow for messing with Europe, the Middle-East, South-Asia and North-Asia. Such a wide range of possibilities.

>>52981374
Iron Age and kinda anything before gothic plate
in depth Africa and Mesoamerica

>>52981732
Alternative, Europe inbetween the Renaissance and the Napoleonic era.

Early modern period is lacking too. Typically people just take the typical Medieval Fantasy, and slap some guns on it to emulate it.

The south is a great setting, steam boat adventures up the mississippi. Slavery side quests that can be adapted for good and evil characters.
War for territory between the French, British, Natives etc. Class disputes.
One of my favourite books shares the same setting, Fevre Dream by GRRM.

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>>52981697
Yeah, I'm tired of people writing not-mongols as illiterate barbarian hordes living in their own filth
*cough*dothraki*cough*

Arctic exploration.

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>>52981374
Got you, senpai
at least, when it comes to pictures

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>>52981944

>>52981905
>>52981697
Massagetae 4 lyf! Horse-stoners rule!

Also, have a look at Against the Wicked City. It's an OSR blog mostly about an early modern, clockpunk, central asian setting. It's pretty neat

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>>52981969
Cool - I myself don't really play D20, but OSR games (or things trying to hearken back to that older feel of the game) always gets my going.

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Would you guys play in fantasy colonial australia, but with your standard "medieval" tech levels?
I was designing a setting and suddenly realised that's what it basically boils to.

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>>52982057
aaaAnd that;s it for the late-roman stuff - for now. Hopefully the thread continues, and become more than just a chance to image-post.

>>52982056
Sure - but when you say
>fantasy colonial australia, but with your standard "medieval" tech levels(?)
What do you mean by that? Could you elaborate?

>>52982056
>Would you guys play in fantasy colonial australia, but with your standard "medieval" tech levels?
How would that even work?

My first thought would be Aboriginal knights invading some parallel dream world by some magical ritual.

>>52982080
It's d&d, so the tech level would be somewhat late medieval/early renaissance, with plate but firearms still in experimental stage.

>>52982089
It's a penal colony of sorts, so the campaigns would usually start with the players getting dropped there by ship from the mainland.
The kingdom they came from effectively controls some coastal areas, but as you go deeper into the continent you come into territories controlled by bandits, who got dropped off there just like the players and did what they knew best to get by, and the tribal natives, who worship an entirely different pantheon.
It's a really big island with a nice desert in the middle and dangerous wildlife everywhere.
It's 'straya senpai.

>>52981905

Actually I'd say GRRM goes the opposite way, he makes them relatively honorable (ok), ridicolously sexy (eh) and have skimpy clothing (which is heavy bullshit, even considering Dany goes with them in summer).

Real mongols were disciplined and I'm sure they weren't that bad when not going full genocide, but the filth part seems to be real. EVERYONE complained about the stench, from China to Europe, it couldn't possibly be just propaganda.

>>52982411
Europeans complaining about the stench? Wow. Hahahah, that must have been some serious shit.

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>>52982080
Out of Romans, posting Romans
>>52982154
Cool. Do you need any help with the setting? Or anything like that - I'm not a historian or anything, but I have lived here, well, my whole life, so I might be able to help out.

Or, alternatively, use that as an excuse to post about the setting/campaign

Do you have a group lined up for it, already? Or are you just doing this thing for yourself?

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>>52982590
Greek's, Italians, what-have-you

>>52982590
Truly the byzantines were the most aesthetic of all medieval armies.

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>>52982602
>>52982621
You Fucking Know It

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>>52982629
>It Ain't Gonna' Suck Itself.jpg

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>>52982648
I personally really like the macedonian dynasty army looks.

Mostly because it was the last time Byzantium could field tens of thousands soldiers in the field,

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>>52982716
I mean look at those borders.

>>52982590
It's still in the early stages, I'm merrily accepting suggestions of all kinds. Anything you know about culture, geography, nice customs, legends and stuff, some details and interesting trivia, I'll write it down and fit in somewhere.

>>52981905
Well technically they were without a written language until Temuchin of all people.

I find timeperiods where things are fairly fractured most interesting. So for the Byzantine Empire example, I'd wait until it started splitting into various pieces - the Latin Empire, the Empire of Nicea, etc.

People also tend to ignore China as just being 'that big united exotic and uplifted land to the east.' Kinda sucks, since China has a lot of potential for a setting at various points, especially when it's not a powerhouse and getting bullied by the Manchu or Mongols.

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>>52982648
Woo! The last time Greeks weren't geeks.

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>>52982738
Damn shame they couldn't hold it.

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Posting my Romans. And boy do i have some.

>>52981374
>the Late Roman Empire
Worst and most boring part of roman history

Punic War - Caesar Augustus being proclaimed not!Emperor is best period

>>52983683
Problem with china is that its hard to elaborate anything. Being a non-foreign culture and with them having a long samey-history. After the fall of the Han it was almost all state conflicts.

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>>52984201
Nigga late republican is best.

>>52984229
That literally is late republic though, Punic War - Rise of Caesar Augustus is the late - end of the Republic as a thing

>>52983587
Well then; have you ever been to the country before? And is there anything in particular that you'd be looking for/wondering about?

Most of what I could tell you would be pretty easy to find with a few google-searches, but maybe the local perspective might give you something interesting.

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>>52984242
If anything Punic is mid-republic its Pre-Marius.

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>>52981374
>The West Roman Empire fell
>Charlemagne failed to restore it
>Charles V failed to restore it
>Napoleon failed to restore it
>Hitler is a cunt
>The EU loves Arab cock
I don't want to live on this continent anymore!

>>52984407
Empire over-rated, Rome reached just about it's max size during the Republic. Augustus would even actively avoid trying to expand.

>>52984444
Its not the Empire per-say. But the integrity of the Western Europe. It fell into cinders after WW2.

>>52984407
Always wanted to visit Europe. But the thought of Paris, Rome, and Berlin covered with my fellow shitskins is off-putting.

>>52984444
>>52984477
Nice repeating digits. But yeah, I meant having a united Western Europe. Imagine if overnight the West Roman Empire sans North Africa reunited. It would overnight become at the very least on par with Russia in global affairs.

>>52984229
>Imperator not Consul, okay?!
>Praise Augustus.

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>>52984546
Doesn't matter. ROMA INVICTA!

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>>52982590
>not Romanoi

You had one job.

>>52984209
>with them having a long samey-history

They really didn't. They (most likely) started out as tree worshippers until the Zhou Dynasty replaced that with their ancestral cult of communal meat&wine-sacrifices, which later was replaced by Legalism which was followed by a Legalism softened by pretend-confucianism, followed by a couple of foreign dynasties that eventually led to the heigth of their meritocratic system of officialdom.

All the while technology moved from bronze age mass-production to a massive steel industry with shitloads of firearms and all the shit that previous generations produced was dug up and put on display by later generations.

>>52984617
>ROMA INVICTA!
Toppest kek.

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>>52985358
>You had one job.

I'M SORRYNO I'M NOT FUCK YOU

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Africa is really underused as far as settings go. Do I personally like it? Eh. But could be a great way to add some spice to the generic fantasy setting.

>>52982411
I suspect the stench comes down to the fact that most mongols people had to deal with were met on the road or in the aftermath of a long journey. After all, how much do you let your hygiene slip during a road trip in the comfort of a car with roadside motels?

Have you smelt horses ever? Try riding them all day for months because that's what it takes to get across your empire.

Have you ever worn leather or furs all through a hot day? Or while exercising? Try wearing it until it all falls apart on your body because you can't spare much room for spare clothes, or time to wash and dry them.

Add this to the standard medieval stench and its no wonder everyone complained. Things were unlikely nowhere near as disgusting back in the heart of mongol lands.

>>52982411
China wouldn't have existed anymore if Ghengis didn't have a particularly apt chinese adviser. He would have just torn down everything.

>>52981679
Check out Space: 1889. Colonial british dudes on Mars.

>>52984296
Never been there personally, but I have seen some hundreds of pictures and some videos as well, since my mother went there and is very trigger happy with cameras :^)
I think the most helpful would be information about the natives, since all I see is the petrol-chuggers meme.
Also would like to know some aspects of Australian culture that really set it apart from, say, brits and new zealanders.
Thanks famalamdingdong

>>52984407

If it were revived at this point, it would just be Greeks and Italians running on German/American welfare with delusions of grandeur.

>>52981602

Badum tish.

>>52984407
Anon, everything fades eventually. Look at how the Byzantine Empire went - by the end it was barely a shadow of what had gone before.

And another thing - history as we think of it, being studied and all, was a relatively recent thing. Even a century ago, any old stuff was basically kept just for the prestige of modern nations, not for any desire to learn about the past. If the Roman Empire had really reformed at any of those times in the past (well, aside from the Hitler example), it'd basically be as different as the various Persian empires.

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>>52992175
Can't speak for Greeks, but remember that Italy had Il Sorpasso before the euro: a currency that literally only works for Germany.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/07/17/the-euro-is-a-disaster-even-for-the-countries-that-do-everything-right/?utm_term=.e0eaf1325db0

This is why Brexit has Germany on edge, not because Britain is so integral to the EU but because it might cause eurozone countries to leave. France first (or they elected an even more rapefugee-friendly version of Hollande), then most likely Italy after that. By then it's all over for Germany.

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>>52981374
Early Colonial Americas is never used in settings. If there is every anything inspired by anything from the new world, its either pirates or wild west. The time period is all about adventures in strange lands too, seems like it would work well as a setting.

>>52996869
>listening to anglo papers

Yeah, they kinda ignore that Iceland is pretty much the only country that actually jettisoned its virtual money debt and axed anyone who smelled like they profited from it.

Can't talk about that in an Anglo papers, because they literally start wars over oustanding debt payments and virtual money's basically their religion.

They also ignore that Greece&Spain was banks being bailed out for being shit at their jobs and lending to people who had no securities. That is, once again, because they're Anglos and there are things you don't even dare to suggest in Anglomerica.

And devaluation isn't a long-term solution either. It eats into company's monetary reserves and makes the R&D and the expansion of production lines required to stay ahead expensive. If your economy's made up of plenty of S&MEs even prohibitively so - Italy has that issue.

Not sayin that the Euro and the Maastricht-criterions don't need to be seriously reworked and that the French were retards who figured that using D-Mark-people and D-Mark rules for the common currency would totes work out cuz they'd get some sort of magic stranglehold on the German economy via the CC... bust still, Anglo papers, man.

>>52984499
>It would overnight become at the very least on par with Russia in global affairs.
That's really not that high of a bar. Russia is an authoritarian country with an oversize footprint in global affairs thanks to its militarism, but Germany alone has a higher GDP.* Hell, throw Spain and Italy together and you have a higher GDP than Russia. And this is all looking at purchasing power parity. If you go with nominal GDP, Russia gets absolutely buried.

*Throw France and Germany in together, and you have a higher population than all of Russia.

>>52981374
Not historical but I have never seen a game set in Jack Vance's Dying Earth setting.

>>52982411
Tbh they genocided people because they didn't see the value of cities.
They basically wanted more grazing land for their horses.

>>52984407
The ottomans almost restored it.
If Mehmed II didn't die in his fifties he might have conquered italy.

>>52998337
There's a RPG about it, with a few books.

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I feel you OP christian Roman late antiquity never gets enough love.

My dream is to run a campaign set in Sub-Roman Britain, set about the year 500 a.d.and something after the battle of Mons Badonicus and the reign of Arthur of Dumnonia, dux bellorum of the Britons.

Basically what I want is to make the players immerse themselves into the early christian myths like that of the holy grail, while keeping it somewhat historically accurate, basically taking aspiration from Cornwells The Warlord Chronicles and Bradleys Mists of Avalon ( I loved these books as a teenager, and I'm not even British)

Unlike the kitsch late feudal interpretation that is so common today, of the Arthurian legend, I want to draw more from the more older and more elemental aspects of the story, like the Celtic mythology, or the Wasteland by T.S.Elliot.

>>52998693
Really? Do you know what it's called?

The Dying Earth RPG. Pelgrane press I think.

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>>52989665
Oh, sure. Sorry it took so long to get back to you.

I can't really speak from an area of expertise when it comes to Aboriginal beliefs and customs, though I can give some general pointers, and places to look for yourself (Though it'll probably be a little scatter-shot).

For example, on the left we have a map of the various Aboriginal tribal/language groups - or at least, the modern-day incarnations of those groups.
The Australian government (the regional offices (WA, SA, etc.), actually have a good amount of information able, and should be able to tell you where to look for further information.
If you are going to being including a native population, and trying to reflect real-world interaction and history with it, you'd probably want to look up the stolen-generations, and the over-all interaction between settlers and natives - I could give some basic information about it, but by god am I not equipped to go into it in detail.

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>>52998748
As for knowledge about the larger Australian culture, its the usual tv-movie stuff; the hard-working, take-no-shit, anti-authoritarian ausy bloke. If your looking at the campaign from the point of view of the land only recently being settled, you'd probably want to look into the early settlement of Australia for inspiration. In general, you'd need (for the right feel for the campaign) the settlers to be from several different groups/countries (the Dutch, for example, also explored/discovered Australia), roughly separated into two groups; the unwanted dregs of their home countries, practically brimming with the resentment of being sent off to the arse-end of the world, and the people that came short after, expecting the new continent to be a slightly hotter version of their home, with all the amenities already built and waiting for them, ruled over by a government that treated them with a contempt matched only by their contempt of the natives (who were seen, for a good long while, as being nothing more than a rather smart part of the wild-life)

Hell, for a good long while, most people didn't even consider themselves "Australians" - even if they were born in the country; they were British (or the fantasy equivalent), and most were desperate to prove that so, so someone in your setting declaring themselves as a "Not-Australian" would be seen as quiet weird.

Sorry if this's all a bit over the place, but I'm a bit tired at the moment.

>>52981374
The late Roman empire just grosses me out

Like fuck, it's all so fucking ugly

>>52998889
shit teir opinion you got there

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>>52998889

Then you my friend have no taste.

Late roman is aesthetic af. Also the Western Roman army being shit-tier is a meme. Ravenna was fielding a kickass force until the last twenty years or so.

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Have some more.

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Civil war soldiers.

>>52981374
I am doing a migration period like setting now though.

American Civil War. At least in my experience.

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Last one in my folder.

>>52998606
>They basically wanted more grazing land for their horses.

>invaders trying to improve the economic situation of their direct supporters by means of absolutely inane measures that include genocide

A very novel concept, yes.

>>52999002
Anon what would be more important?
Food for your trusty steed who carries you into battle or the lives of some uppity faggots behind walls who think that you are barbarians worth of extinction?

>>52999088
It's not about the steed and the war, but about the herds that make up your fortune and your way of life that is spread and perpetuated by making grazing land where cities once stood.

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>>52985640
NORMANES EUNT DOMUS

>>52998621
I'm really glad that didn't happen. A sacking of Rome may have killed the most important thing in my life.

>>52981944
Rohan/10

>>52999643
The papacy?

>>53000991
I'm wearing a cassock right now. Also a stupid hat. It's not one of our hats, it's for something else, contrary to rumors our hats are all nice.

>>53000991
Which one? I think we had up to four at one point, and that's just for the catholics alone.

>>53001228
So tell me Fr. Why isn't tge holy church trying it's hardest to get back in communion with the other apostolic branches?
Why are you carrying on with the celibate priesthood and, doing so, making our Holy mother the church a haven for depraved homosexuals?

Why is the Filioque issue not settled with our eastern brothers once and for all given how minor it is relative to today's challenges?

>>53001479
How is my not having sex making anything a haven for depraved homosexuals? I'm not that hot of a commodity. I'm just a guy who is going to try to follow an example set by Christ.

Also we will never get back in communion with the east, there are too many differences in doctrine to ever reconcile and they're too proud to bend the knee to Rome even in a purely ceremonial context, and we demand more than that. The same goes for the other apostolic branches.

>>53001940

I don't think they should have to bend the knee. The Bishop of Rome did not have primacy in the early Chalcedonian church. Add to that the fact that the Roman Church has often undermined the east sometimes with catastrophic results (Sack of Constantinople anyone). I'm beginning to doubt the wisdom of Rome in many thing.

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>>52981374
Any tribes that are not Plains Indians. People seem to think Native American = wandering buffalo hunters using painted horses (that literally only showed up for a couple centuries thanks to Spaniards).

Eastern Coast, Western Coast, Woodland, and any other group of Native cultures all deserve a more settings

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>>53002690
Or the Polynesians. Cannibalistic warriors, peace loving idol builders, Hawaiian phalanxes, giant naval wars. So much cool shit

>>53002690
I'm a big fan of the Ancient Puebloans.

>>53002681
A few things. The first, and most important, is that the Catholic Church will never back down on Papal Primacy. The second is that Pope Stephen had already claimed primacy at least 200 years before the council of Chalcedon. The third is that the Fourth Crusade had nothing to do with any differences with the two churches and everything to do with the Byzantine rulers thinking they could play their game of Roman politics with the French (who loved war on principle) and the Venitians (who hated the Greeks on principle), and got burned as a result (Read Madden's history of the Crusades on the topic, or for a more in-depth view, the latter parts of Enrico Dandolo and the Rise of Venice). Really, it's a tour de force in bad decisions, and somehow someone thought assassinating the emperor who the crusaders liked would get them to stop looting the countryside.

Finally, yes, Rome has made mistakes. Same with the Patriarchs. We don't throw away our nearly 2000 year old traditions because of that though, and neither will they. So until then, we live and let live. A unified east and west never truly existed.

>>53003076
Father, what sort of prayers would you tell someone to do if they confessed to browsing 4chan and all that implies?

>>53003236
Never come up before. Unless you use it for hostile interactions or browsing porn, you aren't doing anything wrong. I wouldn't suggest it if you're struggling with anger, or you spend too much time pulling your own horn.

>>53003476
So basically the same as for watching porn and saying hurtful things to strangers?

How many Hail Marys is that?

>>52997290
Black legend makes it harder to romantizice conquistadores. Yes, in a world with romantiziced vikings and pirates I know.

>>53003634
You got to really feel the guilt and repent.

>>53003076

Do you not believe our Lord would prefer that all christians be once again united under one church? If that meant that the Bishop of Rome stood equal with the other Patriarchs, would that not be preferable still?

Not trying to flame Father, just throwing it out there.

>>52981374
>>late roman
Might as well play modern times: everything is repeating itself.

>>53007808
>The invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan destabilized together with the ongoing infusion of petrodollars into international terrorism cause the current exodus

Show me YFW you realize that the US are the Huns.

>>53005612
>Do you not believe our Lord would prefer that all christians be once again united under one church?
Yes.

> If that meant that the Bishop of Rome stood equal with the other Patriarchs, would that not be preferable still?

That wouldn't be preferable. Especially since the biblical and historical arguments for Papal Primacy are so firm that the Orthodox recognized it formally just a decade ago. The Ravenna Document. The problem is their idea of 'first among equals' doesn't work with the structure and history of the church. To grossly oversimplify it in /tg/ terms, the DM gave us the magic item with campaign relevance, the rest of the party likes to think that we all share it equally, but he told us to take care of it, and it's in our character sheet. And we are positive that if the rest of the party gets their hands on it, it's a tpk.

Essentially it's a matter of perception.

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>>52981374
Dieselpunk

>>53002711
Thanks for bringing this up. I never knew Hawaii had such a cool military history.

>>52981374
Australia but when everybody were criminals

>>52981374
Taiping Heavenly Kingdom
Korea
Hell, non-China or Japan Asia in general

>>53008200
Best part about this screencap is that the second guy is "upset" people don't like his idea. Of arming every child and teacher in a school. He seems a little depressed by the whole thing, and it is just slightly funny.

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>>53009584
You're welcome, and Gilbert Island has some sick armor and weapon ideas

>>52982154
Gothic 1?

>>53009390

Rogerino on that Fr.

I enjoyed the conversation.

God Bless

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>>52993236
Fucking disgusting.

>>53013095
>Not beating her bloody with the centurion stick until it breaks then sentencing her tent group to sleep outside the walls.
>Before kicking her out if the legion because only men can serve.
>Her father would then propably kill her which is is right under roman law.

>>52998748
>>52998757
Tasmania has fuck all iron but lots of copper and tin, so bronze tech would be common.
It's also mostly Dutch.
So, I dunno, weird bronze age dutch rapiers?

>>52998757
>>53016956
Also - and this is a pretty obvious one, even if you only have pictures to go off - but the country isn't just one slab of hard, red dirt; most people live on the coast, and the coast is actually quite pleasant.