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MtG $$$$$$ COMPETITIVE $$$$$$ MODERN GENERAL

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Magic: The Gathering Modern General (Competitive Discussion)

>Playing?
>Brewing?
>Metagame thoughts?

Decklists:
>https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/modern#paper
> http://mtgtop8.com/format?f=MO

Primers:
> http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/modern

Weekly Modern Metagame:
>https://www.mainphasemtg.net/gamingcontentblog/2017/4/24/modern-tiered-list-weekly-update-and-analysis-for-42417
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>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WCD5RsSUmTJJHF870YQZ7oS1xBDTX3a0OPnfoRqKY7I/pubhtml/sheet?headers=false&gid=410422045
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>>52954012
Upon testing I have come to the conclusion that Kiki Pod is just slow Melira CoCo. Not great although I am jealous of being able to run Magus of the Moon.
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>>52954012
Now THIS is a general!
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why are merfolk players so cult-like?
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Newfag here, just wanna ask what does each color represent?

I already know Red cards are strong for aggro decks, stuff like that.
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>>52954289
>green is the color of best cantrips, ramp, and value.
>red is the color of bolt and bolt-related accessories
>white is a supplementary color for green
>black is also a supplementary color for green, but better at it
>blue is the color of autism
that about sums it up for what each color represents in modern
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>>52954354
White is the color of sideboard supremacy

RIP in piece dredgescum
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so I don't want to spent over 60 dollars,what the best way to build a deck? I wanna make a pure zombie deck or a hybrid desk using alot of zombies.
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>>52954468
>>52954289
Wrong thread. Modern is a format that isn't for new players it doesn't mean modern as in new.
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>>52954505
we need more dollar signs in the OP to really drive the point home
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>>52954117
Kiki pod is faster than Melira Coco you stupid faggot, it's literally why people played it. Also no one ran magus of the moon it was typically like 4 color plus you stupid bitch
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>>52954523
Kys you fucking faggot. You're wrong and stupid.
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>>52954468
>60 dollars
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>>52954560
Are you fucking daft? Did you even play when pod was unbanned you major fucking retard?
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>>52954523
Meant to say chord you triggered whale. Of course fucking pod is better than any CoCo shell.
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>>52954289
Red goes fast, zaps stuff, and ruins your opponents lands.
Green goes fast and big and is the best color.
Black cancels your opponent's plans and schedules them for a date in poundtown.
White cancels your opponent's plans and schedules them for a date in poundtown, but only after game two.
Blue is the color of counterspells, snapcaster mage, and fuck you.
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>>52954468
Play standard. Zombies are a big thing with SOI and Amonkhet being legal and decks aren't $1500.
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>>52954654
>HURRRRR I can't form a fucking sentence cause I'm an illiterate fucking loser are u triggered XDDD
Fucking kill yourself
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>>52954660
>and ruins your opponents lands.
Red doesn't do that anymore
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>>52954468
play EDH with Grimgrin or Gisa & Geralf
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>>52954706
People don't play blood moon anymore? I'd have thought it'd be worth $20 for something.
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>>52954468
Just fuck off you illiterate mongoloid
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how are Fish doing these days?
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>>52954725
I mean in regards to the modern definition of what each color does, red doesn't fuck with lands anymore. They are trying to bring back that aspect of red (because they realized they have cut down on pretty much anything that isn't ME GO FACE! making red as deep as a puddle) with that shitty ass land sleep garbage but between SOI and now they have only printed like 2 or 3 junk commons-uncommons with that effect.
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>>52954289
Black is the best color, plays 1 mana 12/12s and discard spells/ kill spells
Green is also okay letting you play 2 mana 7/8s and also searching up your 1 mana 12/12s
Red lets you kill mana dorks and kill yourself faster and also gives you occasional free wins with Temur Battle Rage
White is mediocre but allows you to play Lingering Souls in the mirror and Ranger of Eos
Blue is worthless trash
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Love all the attention grubbing asshats giving answers to newfag about colours. Need (You) 's that badly eh? fucking lmao
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>>52955082
Say that to my face not online
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>>52955111
I would. You're some filthy fat neckbeard
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What do you guys think of this card?
It works well with Company or flicker effects and really only goes away permanently to Path. But it is in the 2-drop creature spot, making this a hard argument.
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>>52955201
Forgot the image
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how can i build my magic connection
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>>52955153
I'm actually quite clean shaven and my bf% is 11, but nice projecting
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>>52955258
Lmao I'm jacked. Kys weakfag
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Honestly why is ensnaring bridge allowed?
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>>52955891
because youre a little bitch that cant deal with it
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>>52955211
>>52955201
It just does nothing, it doesn't even scale as a body with the other top bodies of the format like DS and goyf. If you have ever piloted a coco shell you would know how tight the list is and the purpose of each inclusion. No card is ever "just a body"

>>52955891
>STILL losing to meme decks.
Acquire skill.
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>>52955891

Maybe they hope people would consider running some of the thousands of disenchant/smelt effects they print over and over
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>>52955928
>>52955942
I shouldn't have to run that just so my creatures can attack
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>>52955985
>wahhhhhh I can't beat this card because I can only win through creature damage
>there are literally a fuckton of artifact removal spells in almost every color
>I shouldn't have to run those wahhh
You want to beat bridge? Either destroy it (most common way), use creatures that can attack under it like noble or ornithopter, go over it via burn or use some sort of combo.

Enjoy the (you) now fuck off
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>>52956062
>build a fair creature deck
>get hosed by some stupid artifact that shouldn't even be in the format
Nah ,fuck you
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>>52956077
>I literally can't use a sideboard to kill an artifact
Fucking end yourself unless you're running some mono black shitbrew there is artifact destruction in every color. There are countless ways to beat bridge especially in most of the tier decks and it's not birdge's fault you're not doing one of them.

>doesn't belong in the format
Oh you're just trolling never mind.

Post your list if you're actually having trouble and I'm sure you'll get some help.
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>>52954468
Zombie hunt. Or some shitty bogles or lingering soul deck
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>>52956125
OK smart guy, how does eldrazi tron deal with bridge
>Inb4 hur dur eldrazi unfair anyway
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>>52956509
your a faggot for calling decks fair or unfair irregardless
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>>52956509
Walking ballista and end bringer pings
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>>52956633
LOL so you can't deny that bridge is cancer bullshit
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>>52956651
Also some Lists run karn.
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>tfw the best tribal is still garbage tier

Return to Lorwyn already and print some good fairies
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>>52956654
>be idiot player that only wants to turn creatures sideways and doesn't run interaction
>complains about a fair card that counters his linear strategy

We actually need more cards like this
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>>52954012
whats some good merfolk (or blue decks) to look at getting?
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>>52955060
Deaths Shadow Jund isnt even that good
Loses to Dredge, Affinity, and Burn
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>>52956717
>Return to Lorwyn
>Elves become T1

Maybe they'll give us Multi-Conspire at least.
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>>52956799
Literally just merfolk
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>>52955891
Because you are a faggot. Run Qasali Pridemage.
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>>52956799
Play Legacy if you want Blue to be able to do anything.
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>>52956509
Here you go you dumb faggot
>>52956651
>>52956679
You could also run Mockery of Nature but that card is ass and I don't recommend it especially since you have better ways to go over bridge in your deck that aren't trash. Just because you're so stupid you need other people to tell you how to beat bridge with your own deck doesn't mean it needs to be banned.

Also nice to see you conveniently picked a colorless deck too, really helped solidify the bait.
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>>52956509
Also as a side note to
>>52957140

Part of the downside to running a purely colorless deck like that is not being able to run colorless spells and it just so happens that colored spells are very efficient at removing bridge. I also forgot ratchet bomb for some reason and that's one more way you can deal with bridge and other problem permanents.

Stay retarded timmy
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>>52957140
>>52957251
Putting a lot of effort into something you think is bait. Fucking retard
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rate my jank zombies shitpile

4 dread wanderer
4 crypbreaker
4 gravecrawler
4 tidehollow sculler
4 wayward servant
4 diregraff colossus
4 cemetery reaper
2 kalitas traitor of ghet

4 path to exile
4 fatal push

22 lands
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>>52956717
>current year
>wizards printing a set that isn't 99% unplayable trash + pushed planeswalkers (which still end up being trash 9 times out of 10)
I've got some bad news for you anon.
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>tfw you 4-0 with dredge and not a single opponent was packing relevant graveyard hate in their 75
Sorry everyone
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>you share a fanbase with these people
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>be living end meme master
>lose vs elves because you draw all 3 of your living ends game 3
>lose to R/G goblins because you cycle 15 (FIFTEEN I COUNTED) cards and never find a cascade spell game 3
This is shaping up to be a lovely FNM
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>>52958006
shed some creatures and stick in time to reflect
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>this fucking guy shows up with a mono-u self-mill shitbrew
>fucking kicks my ass
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>>52954516
Just put a big disclaimer in the OP post:

>***A DECENT DECK WILL COST BETWEEN $500 AND $2000***
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>>52955274
Post pics with timestamp then, faggot.
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>>52959402
You'd like that you faggot
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>>52959386
How about
>This is the general for the Modern format which is not for new players. A decent deck will cost between $400 and $2000
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>>52959419
Sick dodge. I bet you're 115 pounds soaking wet, you fucking manlet.
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>>52959441
The "not for new players" bit makes it sound like some seekrit klub shit. If someone's willing to toss down the cash and learn the format, let them. This thread, despite what some anons think, isn't just some retarded circlejerk over whatever the meme of the week is.
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>>52959474
It's mostly there for the faggots that come in here asking about buying fat packs or playing with duel decks and shit. It's not going to scare someone away looking to spend that much money on cardboard
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>>52959474
>This thread, despite what some anons think, isn't just some retarded circlejerk over whatever the meme of the week is.
Yea it is. This general is garbage
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>>52959546
Only because people like you make it that way.
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>>52959559
Yea totally. Not the endless stream of 12 year olds thinking kithkin is hilarious
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>>52959559
>NUH UHHHHH
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>>52955258
look at this faggot, got himself a bf lmao
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Had a lot of fun playing 9chad last night but I ended the streak on a salty note.

>opponent on abzan coco
>decent back and forth
>opponent and I on topdeck mode, he has a few creatures, I have a bunch of spirit tokens, his courser reveals CoCo
>it's now or never, time to fusion summon out THE BADDEST FUCKER IN ALL OF WESTVALE
>winning the race at this point is inevitable, with no combo piece for opponent on the field, he windmill slams CoCo for two KotRs but he's still behind on the race
>courser reveals path
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>Go to LGS for modern FNM
>"actually, we've decided we're doing an Amonkhet release draft tonight. Sorry anon."
>mfw
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>>52954220
Maybe it because they are one of only two tribal decks of relevance in modern. I don't know.
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>>52960647
Bant spirits will be a superpower by 2020
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>>52956853
Nigger did you even read the meta game breakdown?
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>>52956892
I dontnplay it but I've got a soft spot for tribal decks and would actually be thrilled if one was tier 1. Other than tribal robots. Not a fan of them.
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>>52958540
Who the fuck plays modern without at least one sideboard slot for exile, graveyard hate and enchantment/artifact hate.
Jesus it's not that hard to figure out. No one matchup deserves a playset in the sideboard
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>>52960733
BAN SIGNAL PEST
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>>52958708
Anon why aren't you running yahenis expertise? Turn those living ends in hand into something useful.
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>>52960835
T R O N
R
O
N
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>>52958540
Never be sorry. They asked for it when they decided not to play graveyard hate.
Also,
>Being sorry
Just what kind of dredge player are you?
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>>52960230
Is 9 Chad another name for gideon tribal?
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>>52961085
yes
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>>52960230

>Playing Westvale Abbey in modern

You have my admiration and respect, anon

That being said, it's pretty fucking risky in path: the format. I'm still looking for somewhere to put mine, I'll probably meme them un in 8whack
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>>52960674
I actually agree the deck has potential.
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Im trying to abuse vexing devil but we did a draft instead. Ive yet to play my modern deck kind of disappointed.
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>>52961233
>vexing devil
What deck are you playing?
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is Censer modern playable?
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>>52961519
Yes
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>>52961519
no
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>>52961519
Is Mana Tithe?
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>>52961653
Mana tithe doesn't cylce you noob which is why censor is good in delver and control decks. It's gonna give blue a tiny bit of the help it deserves;
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>>52956651
>all you've got to do is pack jank and jank into your deck and you can deal with exactly one single deck so long as they don't have any removal and they let you ramp hard enough to even use them!

Wrong, the answer was Vindicate.
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>>52962265
>how does eldrazi tron deal with bridge
>gives answers
Learn to read you fucking idiot
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>>52962265
stop being a retard anon, eldrazitron already runs those
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>>52961681
I completely disagree. I think you're massively overstimating the usefulness of the counter side of the spell. Not many decks are curving hard turn 3+, so it's good turn 2 on the play, and it gets worse the more it gets played since people will be expecting it.
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>>52962322
>opponent leaves up 1 mana every turn
>you spend 1 mana on a single turn to cycle it
the whole weakness of mana thite and mana leak type spells is your opponent can trade their mana to make one of your cards useless. If your card isn't useless then you're just getting a tempo advantage for nothing. It's far more likely your opponent just won't even bother playing around censor and you'll lose because 2 mana counters aren't fast enough in modern anyway.
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V A L A K U T I S K I N G

All other decks need to die.
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>>52962417
RUG loam is the superior land based deck.
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>>52962417
fuck you, pay me.
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>>52960596
i wouldn't ever, ever go back to that store.
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>>52962694
I wouldn't even have been miffed about it if they let people know in advance, but they literally scheduled the draft 10 hours before it happened.
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>>52961097

Yep. I hope they reprint hierarchs before 2020 tho, I don'f think birds are as good for the deck
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>>52962417

P R I M E T I M E
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>>52962417
Valakut bros! WE DEEM BOIIS NIGGARD
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>>52962413
Them not even bothering is my point. Most decks in modern are full of 1 and 2 cost spells, meaning that once they have 3 mana your censor is worthless making the only useful turn for it turn 2 when you're on the play and 1 mana draw a card is a shit card.
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>>52954694

Standard these days is like 200-400$ a deck senpai.

>>52954468

You can't even build monogreen stompy for 60, and that just says something.
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>tfw just want to tempo and draw cards and go wide
>t1 decks wont let me

What does UWR need printed to become good?
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Why is tron so fun, bros?

There's something almost soothing about windmill slamming eugene on turn 4 and exiling all your opponents shit.
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>>52961233
Theres a phyrexian mana reanimate that goes fucking great with Vexing devil.
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>>52963330
>what does UWR need
General answers and threats.
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>>52963412

this one?
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Is a deck based on rage extractor, a ton of phyrexian mana and death's shadow viable?
I'm thinking of using porcellain legionair, slash panther, moltensteel dragon, mutagenic growth, dismember, probe and maybe norn's annex
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>>52963546
you can play all those shit cards to make death shadow work, but you can also play all the good jund cards an make death shadow work
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>>52963330
UWr needs to not have to rely on an R&D team that thinks Miscalculation is too strong for modern to work
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>>52963330
unban preordain and SFM
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>>52963811
Why would i want to play the most unoriginal hilariously expensive goodstuff flavor of the month deck? I mean, it's effective for sure but it's boring as fuck.
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>>52961090
Is it any good?
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>>52963886
Because you'll win games, the exact opposite of what will happen if you're playing those cards. Like seriously, you can't get any more fotm than Death's Shadow, so you may as well play a version that wins.
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>>52958729
I want it to include it but its worse than path by a lot
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How did everyone's fnm go?

Took Knightfall again and placed 1st this week. Played against DSJ, Abzan midrange, Goblins and traditional Jund. Every game went close to time besides the goblin deck and I was real burned out by the end of the night.

2-0d DSJ, Jund, and Goblins. Abzan managed to chain 3 lingering souls in a row game 1 and stole that one. I managed to spell queller everything he played and eat everything in his gy with scooze game 2 and 3.
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>>52964229
The deck's focus was more on Rage Extractor with Death's Shadow being there just to capitilize on the life loss form using so much phyrexian mana.
>inb4 go play another deck
I'm trying to build something new instead of netdecking some dude's jund deck, i know it's not a top tier deck and it's based on jank but how can i improve this deck?

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/rages-shadow/
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>>52965529
Second place with Melira Junk, lost to fucking TRON. FUCK YOU TRON. I swear I will put a Magus of the Moon in the sideboard with no way to cast it.

Beat 2 DS decks (one Junk on Grixis, wasn't easy) and Burn (easy as shit even more so after boarding)
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>>52965529
I posted >>52958708
I ended 2-2.
>round 3 elves again. Game 1 he has the craziest turn 3 I've ever seen with triple nettle sentinel into quadruple visionary double coco into elites and archdruids and blah blah I died
>but for some reason he has ZERO idea what I'm playing. Turn one cycle usually tips people off but he doesn't get it
>manage to win game 2 because he overextended into instant speed board wipe
>game 3 he mulls to 5, reluctant keeps, I get it through
>game 4 vs a pretty salty affinity player, he got matched against DSJ twice in a row and says they just drew EVERY SINGLE FUCKING HATE CARD EVER RAGE RAGE RAGE
>game 1 my main deck faerie macabre pulls it's weight and gets rid of ravager and vault skirge before living end, my fatties beat their way through the memnites and signal pests
>game 2 I have double ingot chewer and he rage scoops before a definite conclusion
$5 store credit towards a pack of eclipse sleeves, wew
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>>5296595
Smashed some dude on Living End with Dredge last night, feels good.
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>>52966095
Yeah dredge is a shit match up for us because the macabres aren't enough
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FNM was ok, didnt top 8 for the first time in a few weeks, went 2-2 with Burn
Tournament started out ok with a 2-1 win over a UWR Control deck that used Saheeli combo and Ult for the win.
Then went 2-1 against Deaths Shadow Jund, one of my all time favorite matchups just so much to think about
Lost against Allies 1-2. This deck doesnt see a lot of play but its actually pretty decent especially against Burn, Ondu Cleric is a beating.
Lost against Eldrazi Tron 0-2, this is usually a great matchup but he went on the play and had a turn 2 Chalice on 1 and game 2 a bunch of thought knots. Feels bad.
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What are your guys opinion on foils? I really like them, they add a personal spin to the deck but I hate that some of them are slightly more curled then others. I double sleeve all my cards but some came SP and just ever so slightly curled but its noticeable. Most of them are fine and perfect but some like the DCI promo Path are pretty bad at curling for some reason. Even if they didnt curl there is a very slight difference in density and feel between them and normal cards that an adept player can point out.
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>>52966584
>What are your guys opinion on foils?
Very few look good, most look like garbage and are annoying to look at, they also tend to bend your whole deck.
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>>52966584
>opinion on foils
I really like them. I'm almost finished foiling rug delver (I doubt I'll ever bite and get foil fs goyfs) but my other 4 decks don't really have foils. Living end has foil cascade spells for fun and I've got some foil skreds. Guess I'm not as into those decks.
I find foils don't curl unless you live somewhere shitty and moist.
It's funny peoples reactions when your deck is foiled out. All sides from admiration to disdain
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>>52966584
I'm glad they exist because I feel like I rip people off whenever I trade them a foil card for a regular one with similar market value. Its the exact same card as the non-foil one only rarer and bent with a shitty glossing. Same thoughts as anon here >>52966901
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>>52966957
>not buying foil future sight tarmogoyfs
What, you poor or something?
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>>52966957
>foiling rug delver
That sounds sexy desu
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>>52966584
I'm not big on foils unless my entire deck is foils. and that never happens because I'm poor. I will foil out stompy some day.
I've discovered that Dragon shield Smoke inner sleeves make foils look fucking amazing if you flip the sleeve around so the face of the card is being tinted.
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>>52967170
>Dragon shield Smoke inner sleeves make foils look fucking amazing if you flip the sleeve around so the face of the card is being tinted.
Hope you're telling the truth here. Just ordered some for extra gorgeous foils
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>>52966584
Only on cards I get during drafts and other events, or from the foreign language packs I sometimes crack as souvenirs. I never go out of my way for them.
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>>52958579
its not about the dragon
its about a fan pony character i think
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>>52963189
>not already having Hierarchs
They're pretty essential since they help you race senpai. Exalted also plays nicely with Geistdaddy
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>>52962677
Vialing an arbiter in response to scapeshift is full erect.
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>>52968311
Arbiter doesn't bother me since I usually have 7-8 mana and can pay for it. Mind censor is a maximum fucking CUNT
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3-1 fnm with Sky Hussar.
2-0 Grishoal brand.
He couldn't find boseiju, ez game.
2-1 u/w control
almost went to time Commandeered a sphinx's for 4 and a elspeth over the 3 games.
0-2 fucking. Slivers.
T1 cavern of souls is basically an auto loss If I don't find ghost quarter immediately.
2-1 Grixis shadow
static caster rekt me g2, reflector mage did heavy lifting in the match up.
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>>52968508
>slivers
I will never underestimate them again
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>>52965686

Does magus of the moon really do it against tron? Wouldn't Gaddock teeg be better to prevent them from casting Ugin and Karn?
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>>52969012
Nigga Teeg hoses me, I can't CoCo or chord it's literally the card D&T brings (or used to bring, I haven't played one in a long time) in against me. Plus even if that wasn't a factor it doesn't stop their development, their creatures (walking balista is also a big deal against me in the eldrazi version) or their fucking Ostone.

Fulminators can be alright, and I run 2 of those in the side, but I would rather chord for 3 once and lock them down till they get an answer rather than investing resources over and over (Ewitt triggers, more chords) again to keep them off of Tron.
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So, does your guys' LGS's cut to 4 rounds if the players drop to less than 16? Mine usually does, except last night when I was 4-0
We only had 12 people left at the end of the night, but instead of cutting to top 8 like we've always done, we have another round instead and I get really unlucky. Bumped me from 1st to second, and instead of 15 packs I went home with 9.
Just really pissed me off.
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>>52969321
>instead of 15 packs I went home with 9.
>packs
>not store credit
shit-tier LGS detected.
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>>52969897
We had one guy who saved up like $600 in store credit, so now if you want store credit, you have do it the same night.
I know it sucks, and the same guy got banned a month ago for cheating. He's also the same reason we have to standings in top 8 instead choosing to play or split.
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>>52970099
>one person does this
>better punish everyone attending to store

Change the place, immediately.
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>>52970099
What's the issue with saving store credit?
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>>52970147
There's only 2 other stores in the area, and they're both worse.
One only does standard FNM and is in the middle of a ghetto
The other is filled with really annoying people, has very low turnout for modern, and takes like 10 minutes after the round is over to print pairings.
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>>52971136
Not my kind of deck but I can get behind the sentiment
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>>52971550
What kind of trash mono red burn is this?
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>>52968019

Honestly they're outside of my budget and fleshing out fetches and shocks is my highest priority, since I'm coming from UW spirits
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>>52971797

-but I know I need them
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>>52971653
At least its better than the trash I was playing against last FNM - the kid had what appeared to be a 2015 30-card welcome deck that he had mashed a bunch of theros draft chaff into to make it 60 cards. I felt bad for him afterwards.
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>>52972133
Pls just go burn baby
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>>52972133
Just burn yourself and redirect it that way.

God burn tards are so stupid
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>>52971550
>>52971572

My fucking eyes got bleached by looking at this pile (because a deck this is not). I mean jesus "regular" mono red is under 200, what the fuck.
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>>52971550
>>52971572
>no goblin guide
>no rift bolt
>no lavamancer
>no flames of the blood hand
>no skullcrack
>only 2 eidolons main
That is not mono red burn it is a pile of red cards that happen to have some burn.
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>>52972133
> My entire deck is hosed by one card
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>>52973196
ban ensnaring bridge
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>>52973223
t. Timmy

The sideboard is for more than storing you're alt fatties
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>>52973223
Bridge is a great card. Fucking tired of creature beat face decks being the only option desu
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>>52973296
>>52973372
turning dudes sideways is the purest form of magic

bridge is a cancer and needs to be removed
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>>52973223
How does everyone feel about bridge?

The main complaint I can think of is that the decks that use it, rely on it entirely. It can be frustrating when you've got an opponent top decking no action but they're safe behind a nigh unremovable bridge
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>>52973296
This.

bridge is not a problem Ican flicker a thought knot seer to let my 12 1/1 scions swing in and kill lantern control under a bridge main board.

you can side in some hate cards to defeat the 1 thing that hoses you.
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>>52973399
You're the reason I play bridge. I love seeing nu magic babies squirming because they're fatties can't swing
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>>52973399
If only there weren't literally 100+ cards in modern that can deal with bridge. If you your deck doesn't have a way to beat bridge that's not ensnaring bridges fault you built a shit deck.

>>52973420
pithing needle ;^)

>>52973414
It's a fair card that only works in a few shells. They might be "safe" for a little while but the decks that rely on it often just lose if you find a a way over it or you can get under it, which a lot of tiered decks can do.
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>>52973680
Wow, it's nothing at all
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>>52973680
>cuckatrice
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>>52963259
U/B zombies in Standard is $80 and a solid tier 2 pushing tier 1 deck.
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>>52973808
Shut up retard
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>>52973819
I'm not going to argue with you about standard in the modern thread. I was just helping the $60 anon out.

If you don't belive me about the decks viability it's literally 5-0ing MTGO competitive leagues right now:

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/competitive-standard-constructed-league-2017-04-28
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making a casual deck with my roommate and found this sexy thing, I've been meaning to make a dumb meme R/W version of Death and Taxes for a minute now so any suggestions on key cards?

Bonus meme points for any amount of mana tithe!
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>>52975959
>Magic: The Gathering Modern General (Competitive Discussion
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>>52975989
You can still be semi competitive with a pile of meme good stuff see new Gideon
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Finally I see this fucker win 80% of the time with a solid deck in against the odds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6I2jbl4dm0

I used the same list in today's modern tourney and got second place (lost vs Abzan Company).
The deck is pretty solid and beat 2 Jund layers in a row.
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>>52976096
gideon tribal is such a faggy name
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>>52963541
Why the hell doesnt this see play in Deaths Shadow? Bring back a Shadow for one mana and lose some life to make it bigger, it gets haste and you Battle Rage it just when your opponent thought the coast was clear after removing it.
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>>52963827
Too strong for standard*
They do not test or make cards for Modern
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>>52976266
9chad is indeed the superior name.
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Cut a single Kolaghans Command and a Tarfire for two Postmortem Lunge. Easy to bring back two Shadows with haste for two mana, they are +4/+4 bigger and they beat in.
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how are Merfolk these days?
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>>52976518
Bad idea.
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Anyone has a new updated list for Living End?
I currently have a similar list on GP Brisbane's Living end (http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/gpbri17/top-8-decklists-2017-02-19) with the following small difference:
-2 Wooded Foothills
+2 Blackcleave Cliffs

Just asking if anyone already tried the new Amonkhet cyclers. Do they increase manascrew enough to be undesirable?
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>>52976408
So, I have most cards for 9Chad except New Gideon. I guess its time to order a set of that motherfucker.
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>>52976555
I dont see how. The Shadow gets haste and a buff, and can easily come be buffed by a Temur Rage/Ghor Clan all you need is 3 mana. Its even X for the cost so you dont need a heavy color fix.
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>>52976555
Your opponent can go kill your only Shadow, tap out for a walker or creature/swing in because they dont have to worry about holding up blockers of their own thinking the coast is clear since no Jund creatures have haste and then bam you just one shot them next turn.
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>>52976096
Wow, I thought it was just another meme deck losing all the games but the deck actually can work fine.
I think it might have problems vs Abzan Combo and Naya Aggro but looks solid.
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>>52976620
Never played Living End but pick up 4 Horror 4 Ceradon, and depending on if you want to shell out a dollar or two, pick up the Demon guy. Also get the Sandwurm guy, he's quite strong.

But basically just pick up a playset of the commons, they're are really damn strong and will cost maybe 1$ for all 8
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>>52976911
Its not seeing play but grab a set now since it was $8 but is now less then $5
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>>52977018
star city says $12
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>>52976636
>>52976677
>>52976677
Far more situational and you can get burned out easily
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>>52977145
>buying from star of david games
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>>52977145
>star city games
You cannot possibly be serious?
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>>52977145
Star Citys prices are a bit inflated but i guess i was wrong on his price, maybe hes more like $8 still from an LGS. I wont bash on SCG though, you pay for what you get, the service is better, the cards arrive on time and you never have to worry about fakes and they always arrive in the condition you ordered them.
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>>52977690
Wow just like every other online retailer that isn't ted's maj shack
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>>52977690
they're just under $5 on tcg which you're better off doing if you're buying online, there's little to no risk to you as a consumer
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>Walk into walmart
>go to card section, stuff pocket of my hoodie with khans and AER packs, rinse and repeat for 2 more stores
>come back and open them, pull 2 polluted delta, and 1 foil delta, 2 push

What did you do today /tg/?
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>>52977173
>>52977454
>not supporting one of the few people hosting modern tournaments
baka desu senpai
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>>52977836
>you should support the people who try to sell shit at a 100% markup
Yeah I bet you think they host their modern tournaments out of altruism and love for the format and not because retarded goyim buy their overpriced shit like candy at them
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>>52977894
I never said shit about them doing it out of altruism you fucking /pol/ tard. It's a fact they are one of the few people supporting Modern tournaments right now and if you don't want to support that then that's fine but start crying when we have no tournaments left fucker.

oh and also
>new gideon
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>>52977788
I didn't do anything unethical.

I ordered counterfeits instead.
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>>52978255

>literally double charging

please kill yourself
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>>52978255
>oh god what he's saying makes sense I better call him a /pol/tard this will win me the argument
That's literally all that sounds like unless you're actually responding to someone detailing a 52-point manifesto about how Jews are destroying society.
>It's a fact they are one of the few people supporting Modern tournaments right now
They're one of the few hosting modern tournaments because they're one of the few retailers that have managed to continue having ridiculous mark ups without many people questioning it and they know they get good sales numbers and advertisement, as well as the good will of people who buy product from a retailer even when it isn't cost beneficial to them, like you, because they think that it some how effects their business practices. They'll host tournaments as long as people A) Buy shit from them at said tournaments and 2) are willing to put up the entrance fees in good numbers. Me and everyone else visiting this thread not paying anywhere from 10-100% mark up to get that SCG card with their cards in the mail won't affect shit.
>new gideon
Was just putting up the most obvious example of this garbage that happens every single set release.
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I only order pricy modern staples from SCG/CardKingdom usually foils, only because they are usually only $5 more and ive had to deal with too many fucks on TCGplayer to bother with it anymore. Usually though I just buy from my LGS, they are the largest in the city and have some very rare and pricy cards, I only order online if they dont have the card in store.
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The worst site for Jews is actually Pucatrade literally people trying to scalp others for .50 cents
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Does anyone have a relatively new competitive Temur Delver list?
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>>52978990
>Temur Delver
>competitive
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>>52978990
Just play eternal command if you want to be a RUG memer.
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>>52979026
???
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Just found this in my collection while sorting
Secret tech for Deaths Shadow Jund to use?
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>>52979246
Not legal in this format famalam.
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>>52979267
Man duel deck printings always fool me. Theres always such powerful cards in them.
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>>52979290
>tfw no reckless charge
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>>52979137
That's left over from before the Git Probe ban

Just play Eternal Command like >>52979102 says
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>>52979246
would be busted in modern
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>>52979679
>/r/dankmemes
Consider suicide
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>>52979830
You play a child's card game. Shut the fuck up.
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>>52978255
>>52977836
>>52977145
You are a literal shill. Go back to where you came from
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>>52979720
>legal in pauper
>too powerful for an actual format
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>>52976358

Not really a dsj player, but what do you take out for it?
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>>52979290

Yep. It's a fucking shame but it would probably break storm
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> +28.15 Crumbling Ashes 31.99 +733.00%
What?
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>>52981085

Amonkhet
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>>52981085
casual memes
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>>52981396

Jesus, this is horribly done

I'm glad and horrified someone saved it
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@deathandcatmix
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>>52981502
It works dude. It's not a meme.
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>>52981528

How's Brimaz working out for you? I don't really see him very often
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Hey guys, what's going on in this thread
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>>52955060
Get out you death shadow fan boy
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>>52981620

...I'm not sure if that's real or from Danger Five.
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>it's another /pol/ thread on /tg/
Thanks modern players.
Maybe you're not better than EDH kids after all.
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>>52981537
Not my deck. Some black guy plays it on twitch.

https://youtu.be/cdV8Oyc1ahs
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>>52960903
What's is Cage/Rip/Nature's Claim/Relic
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>missing gpt top4 because some RG zoo pile runs dryad militant that exiles your loams, conflagrates, darkblast and lootings, and has turn 1 relic g3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=113u9CjoKgw

Had the same ogw as 4th place too, legit mad.
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>>52976358
>Bring back a Shadow
you need to draw and land a shadow first and have it die
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Is that Gideon "tribal" deck really a thing?
I just find it too hard to believe it.
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>>52982737
Gideon of the Trials is really really good.

The meme deck, however, could use some tweaking.
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>>52982737
I hope it becomes a thing. If it even hits T2 Wizards will seriously consider printing actual planeswalker removal.
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>>52983381
Instant speed Dreadbore, or BB Hero's Downfall?
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What would be better in a blue moon deck, Madcap experiment + Platinum emperion or 2-3 torrential gearhulks?
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>>52983490
>never to return never stood a chance
Dumb asses had one chance to make one of the square bus split cards be legitimate but instead decided I was never going to get my Never to Ever alter done.
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>>52983490

BB: Target player sacrifices a planeswalker
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>>52983533

I'd say torrentials.
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>>52983533
torrential gearhulk for sure. but only play one, you dont need more.
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>>52983381

Wizards would be happy if Oops All Gideons! became T2 or T1, it would mean their "face" card is important in Modern.
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Why do people play Tron? I have a hard time believing anyone can have fun playing such an annoying and braindead deck. I'd rather face Lantern Control than Karn&Co.
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>>52984387
Because being the one slamming down Karn is fun and it has a good win percentage vs the field. It's the only viable (board) control deck in the format.
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>>52984254
At least they will replace Jace as WotC pet with Gideon now. Just what they tried in 2012 Core Set
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>>52984694
I was about to link you to a casual thread, but I didn't see one in the catalog.

8.5 EDH runs equipment and Circle of Protection effects, beating down with 8.5 or another suitable equip target. That would be the best place to start.
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http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/30-04-17-baby-got-back/
Can this deck meme his way through a FNM?
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Buying singles to make my first deck (grixis ninjas)

Where should I buy from? TCGplayer and select all lowest prices for near mint?
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>>52984993
Ignoring competitiveness and looking at the deck itself
>Lagonna-Band Trailblazer
>Heroic with no targeting spells
Either replace it with a better card or toss in something to make use of the heroic clause, you have plenty of 1 drops you can afford to bump it up to 2 or 3 cmc creature, I'd also consider tossing in two copies of this meme or something like that because it gives you access to copies 5+6 of Doran's effect while also being harder to remove and access defender memelords you might otherwise be unable to use
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>>52985328
Bait
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>>52985464
Is skinshifter a good substitute?
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>>52985328
Assuming this isn't bait, don't do it. Assuming price isn't an issue, build burn.
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>>52985696
go for it
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>>52962417
I can't even imagine the thought process behind posting some bullshit like this
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>>52986371
>memes
Was that so hard?
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>>52954468
Play checkers
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>>52986427
>memes is a thought process now
Of course it is
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>>52961094
Honestly I think westvale abbey should see more play. There's just so little cost to running it as a one of. Any deck that could feasibly have 5 creatures out and is less than 3 colors should probably run it. If your opponent is playing Liliana or paths you don't have to use it. If they're not then it will steal games.
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>>52985775
I am actually ordering singles for the first time, it's just not grixis ninjas.

It's actually skred, i've been piloting it on xmage and cockatrice to see if i want it and i want it. (And it's so cheap if you've already got moons.)

So does anyone have any advice for shopping online for singles?
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>>52956853
> I don't play modern
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>>52985696
Is that Nicholas Cage?
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>>52986509
Same guy here, also getting a Full House playmat
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>>52984387
Tron player here. I just wanna slam some fatties and win, yo. Also, I can play the deck while drunk which is relevant to my lifestyle.
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>>52986509

If you're in europe, magiccardmarket

Just avoid getting anything from italy

If not, I don't know, honestly.
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>>52987344
God you punish you, Tronfag. The time of the Sinkhole is soon upon us.
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>>52987485
But anon, I'm doing gods work, keeping control faggotry out of our glorious format! It's a dirty job, but someone has to do it.
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>>52987539
You're right, only 3 color aggro-midrange goodstuff allowed in Modern.

TIME OF THE SINKHOLE
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>>52987539
First they came for the Controlfags, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Controlfag.

Then they came for the Combofags, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Combofags.

Then they came for the Dredgers, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Dredgers.

Then they printed wasteland and strip mine—and there was no one left to speak for me.
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MAKE WAY NEW STAPLE COMING THROUGH
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>>52987539
ban tron lands unban probe
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>>52987755

playing white, you want this instead.
>cheaper ability
>more relevant tribe

sucks against living end though
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>>52988379

forgot my image
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>>52988404
wow this was pretty funny, I'm glad you took the time to post it.
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>>52987907
This
Only real ramp allowed
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>>52988599
>shitty llanowar elf
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>>52988614
>enables turn 2 hardcast Emmy
>shit
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>>52963358
im a pleb scrub who is eugene?
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>>52989581
Once upon a time there was a tournament where the winner got to design a card and have their likeness placed on that card if they so chose. Notable cards that follow this are Dark "Bob" Confidant and Snap Caster, though Tiago wasn't as catchy as Bob was, as well as this guy right here who was created by some poor soul named Eugene that had that Rocky Dennis Mask shit where his face looked like a pumpkin.
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>>52989650
This place is so shit in terms of humour. The things you people find funny and amusing are full on cringe. Can we just keep it to the card game and not kithkin autism or DSJ alt names?
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>>52989714
>Can we just keep it to the card game
So how about those top tier decks huh? Sure are nice. Anyone want to talk about the 2-3 decks that are considered "competitive" here?

No? Okay.
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>>52989714
This so much. Kill yourself you meme loving teenagers
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>>52989714
The Kithkin memery needs to stop, it was never funny and the argument that "Its bad against living end" is just straight up retarded BECAUSE THE DECK IS MONO WHITE YOU HAVE REST IN PEACE.
Its fucking 9gag faggotry and it needs to stop.
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>>52989811
>complaining about kids in a thread for a children's card game on a Taiwanese stitching board.
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>>52989844
It's so easy to spot the turbo autists. Always with your oh so clever twists on image board
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Hey Ya'll I made this deck and I was looking for opinions and recommendations on it, check it out:

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/draw-godek/
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>>52989919
It's so easy to spot the turbo autists. always complaining about memes on a meme image board
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>>52989919
>being this upset at a 4chan response
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>>52989830
>"Its bad against living end" is just straight up retarded BECAUSE THE DECK IS MONO WHITE YOU HAVE REST IN PEACE

>trying to understand the logic in a literal meme
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>>52989975
Nobody said I was upset. I'm just impressed by the amount of faggotry this board promotes. You should use different reaction images. I think we've all seen this one with shitty green text enough for one life time
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>trying to find W/B tokens so I can get a good idea of ratios of lands and kill/discard spells
>W/B tokens never top
>W/B tokens is still 400 dollars as a budget deck
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>>52989957
My advice would be to turn it into Esper draw go and not a pile of cards that vaguely resembles it. Your removal should be 4 paths and 2 push or maybe a 3/3 split. Mana leak is useless in a draw go and specifically esper deck since the games go long and it's dead late game, switch for logic knot. Drop teachings for Esper charm and run 4 cryptic and 4 charm, they're the reason to be esper. Play an actual sweeper instead of that memey black card and put blessed alliance in the side. 4 think twice is pretty essential to play draw go as well. V clique is sideboard material or maybe as a fun of. Gearhulk is garbage in modern.

And for god's sake edit that atrocious manabase if you're going to play sphinx's rev.

t. Esper draw-go palyer
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>>52986509
someone pls answer this
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>>52989957
It looks like unplayable jank.
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>>52990353

Story of my life
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I want to play Thunderous wrath in burn, but it never works out. It makes me sad.
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>>52961519
In Grixis Death's Shadow as a 1 or 2 of, yes. I can't think of another deck where you might want it though, as it is only good if you can close out games ridiculously fast
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>>52990614
Nobody asked you, name fag
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>>52990613

it would be playable in delver if brainstorm were legal
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>>52990613
I'd say run a one-of for spice but because of variance you'll probably see it in your opening hand at least once at a decent sized tournament. Some memes need to be let go.
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>>52991028
Delver would be playable if Brainstorm was legal.
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>>52991073
>Delver would be playable if Brainstorm was legal.

As a former modern Delver player, truer and sadder words have never been said. I think it'd be better if Preordain was also unbanned, but to truly be T1 you'd also need to unban Ponder.

>>52990655
Who's actually worse here - a shitposter or someone (me) who actually contributes to the conversation in an at least minorly meaningful way?
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>>52991592
Is the black NoDelver bird playable in Grixis Delver?
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>>52991865
yes.
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>>52991865
not yet
no one has figured a reliable way to make get the notMorbid trigger yet. There was some jank (JANK) using Kari Zev's Expertise to steal a creature and then use the FREE spell to kill it, then drop Pickers for 1.
But that's some full-on saffronolive-tier stuff.
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>>52991865
I haven't tested Bone Picker, but I don't think so. For starters, he's a T2 play at best. Secondly, it's only a 3/2, so he dies to Tarfires. Fatal Push doesn't kill him unless you activate Revolt.

Given the meta has so much discard, I could easily see a hand where you have a Bone Picker getting stranded in your hand because your opponent took your Fatal Push.

I much prefer just doing 4x Delver 3x Tasigur 2x Gurmag Angler 4x Snapcaster Mage as the creatures.
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>>52992208
What are your thoughts on Grixis Shadow? Is it better than delver or is it just a meme for people who are salty that Grixis control is a bad deck?
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>>52992273
I'd rather play DSJ against an open field but if I know there's going to be a lot of DSJ I'd bring Grixis instead to have an edge. Personally I think DSJ is the better, more cohesive deck but Grixis isn't terrible.
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>>52991592
>Who's actually worse here
You. Fucking attention whore that constantly spreads misinformation
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My modern box came out alright.
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>>52992593
>seance
Nice
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>>52992593
I always forget Call of the Herd is modern legal
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>tuning Bantdrazi deck
>do extensive testing, find a configuration I like
>just missing a copy of Birds of Paradise
>shouldn't be a problem getting it, have credit with 3 different stores and trades aplenty
>literally not a single copy of BoP for trade or sale in the whole city
>mfw
How the fuck is this even possible? It's one of the most common mana dorks in the whole game.
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>>52992655
I know right.
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>>52992971
Yunno those Masters reprints that are supposed to increase card supply? Well they don't.

I'm surprised it's taken you this long to encounter this problem with just Birds whose supply has finally dried up.

You need to open 440 packs on average to open a playset of a Mythic. That's the reality of most sets. That's what we've been living with since fucking Alara.

No offense, but you are a fucking bitch for being blind to the problem for this long.
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>>52992971
Offer more that basic price for them.
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>>52965529
brought knightfall, g1 against turbofog was a headache but i got there. g2 i got real shit hands against merfolk and just lost. g3 vs orzhov aristocrats and hold ooze open for GR spell queller and izzet staticaster to lock him out of the game
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>>52992971
buy online familam
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>>52993367
That's probably what I'm going to do, yeah.
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What kind of shitbrew meme deck do you think we could pull of with something like this. Obvious shit comes to mind like Changelings + Eldrazi
What do you guys think? Dying to Abrupt Decay makes it shit I guess?
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>>52993607
>3 mana investment
>requires you to have creatures on board to be online
>no immediate value
>may never get any value out of it without good card selection (which is sparse at best in modern)
It's shit senpai.
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>>52993607
Splash green in Kithkin tribal and this card might be decent.
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>>52993685
Kithkin already runs green for CoCo and Teeg you cock sucking homosxual.
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>>52993671
I figured as much. I'm bored and really like enchantments, why can't they be good? I want to play Enchantments. ;_;
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>>52993710
Do you kiss your mother with that mouth fag?
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>>52988631
how do you hardcast emmy? at most he makes 4 mana
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What is the chance of a Glimpse the Unthinkable reprint soon? I want to build mill but I know if it ever gets reprinted the price will tank.
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>>52993759
Wait until that new master set list comes out. If it's not there go for it.
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>>52993746
No, but I kiss your mom with it.
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>>52993797
You idiot! His mom has oral herpes.
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>>52993732
I'm sure there's some enchantress list you can meme.
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