Warhammer 40.000 8th edition General /W40k8thG/

>>52950520
First for butthurt sisters players.

We need more tactical nuke options.

This is something I've been puzzling over for a while. Maybe you guys can help out.

What would happen if an Ork was raised from a very young age as if they were human? Would their WAAAGH energy transform them into a dirty 'umie, would they end up as an even more disciplined Bloodaxe, or would it not work at all?

>>52950532
Why would sisters players be butthurt? I'm hype for 8th.

>>52950553
>Would their WAAAGH energy transform them into a dirty 'umie
Doesn't work like that.

>Would they end up as an even more disciplined Bloodaxe, or would it not work at all?
The latter, Bloodaxes are a counter-culture among orks, so the most likely reaction is it actin out in the most anti-humie way it can.

nth for AoS has ok rules, and 40k borrowing from it is not automatically a bad thing. 9

>>52950567
Plastic sisters may have just been confirmed to not be happening.
Or maybe that's just another lie in this great spiral of deciet.

>>52950579
On the other klaw, some Orcs are known to have urges to follow the rank and file in their early lives. Stormboyz. Maybe The Imperium could exploit those confused emotions to create an Ork soldier. With no Kultur, who's to know what could happen?

>>52950553
>>52950579
>>52950643

You'd probably end up with something like an Ogryn, but more violent and rebellious. If they 100% believed they were a humie, they'd probably get Khorne'd anyways.

Perhaps I'm out growing gaming. I fell in love with 40k the day I found a 3ed rule book at a wizards of the coast store (back when that was a thing) but now? People seem happy there taking the pants on head retarded AoS rules and killing 40k with it. Perhaps that's what people want now. Rip 40k, you and fantasy where to good for this world

>>52950801
Consider this an interim edition.

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>>52950801
>Rip 40k, you and fantasy where to good for this world
You forgot about your cheetah pic

>>52950859
Sorry. I'm not up to date on my shitposting. Whats the cheeta meme

>>52950801

People probably like it because 40k had become bloated and complex for the sake of being complex due to a refusal to actually demolish the system and start over.

If you really need a big book filled with rules that serve no practical purpose you may be compensating for something.

>>52950520
>General
>mortal wounds are a thing
>psyker will have them
>super heavy and gargantuan will have them
>my knights once again ignore all saves
Bow before my might and tremble before the Emperor's wrath!!!

The new psychic phase sucks. I will continue to think so until the rules are expanded upon. The 2d6 system is weak sauce.

The rulebook on the gamesworkshop site is still the 7th one right? I´m not familiar with the release shedule.

>>52950623
Could you elaborate or post a link? Wanted to build myself a plastic Sisters and Inquisition army.

>>52950553
Next thread, can we get it phrased as 'Tyranid raised by the Tau'? I mean, it can't all be human/ork.

>>52950859
Nah, nah, Cheetah's always happy. That's the one nice thing about him. Well, that and the willingness to acknowledge that it's only shitposting.

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>>52950801
We will always have previous editions

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>hate edition will have the chance of double turns

>>52950999
Does it actually?

As someone who is new to rubric marines

What does the new psyker phase mean for me? Is it good or bad?

>>52950859
>cheetah
>in favour of AoSification
Yeah, no, he isn't that much of a faggot
>dis gun b gud edishion
>mortal wounds
>stormsurges, wraithknights and knights will definitely have them
>it's New D spam edition
>eldars still Kings of the hill
Yeah, no

>>52950623
You mean like there was a huge box with PLASTIC THUNDERHAWK written on it, which got everyonr hyped, and then it was just a refreshed Thunderhawk in resin, making everyone lose intersg in it?

GW has trolled more than once. I can definitely imagine them doing that to surprise people even more.

>>52950801

You are the cancer that was killing this game. Don't let the door hit you on the way out, faggot.

>>52951037
If I remember, they said in a FAQ we wont have that shitty garbage rule. Thank god, as its the only thing in AoS I cant wrap my head around. Why anyone would want to use that dumb rule, let alone create it.

What's the best way to catch up on the new lore? Haven't been paying attention since 6th.

>>52951042
We'll have to wait and see what powers you can get.

>>52950801

Third edition was seen as a dumbing down and simplification at the time, just like you think eighth edition is.

Some people just don't like change.

Reminder to purge all whfb cucks

>>52951042
Odds are rubric sorcerers will have a harder time casting their spells, but are more likely to actually use their powers instead of funneling warp charges into a Sorcerer or Magnus.

Having Smite by default also means the Rubric sorcerer might have better psychic shooting at a baseline, and depending on other changes there may not be the same psychic tables, so any other powers they get might be improved or different.

Overall, likely going to be a positive change, unless it makes the squad even more expensive

>>52950913
>Could you elaborate or post a link? Wanted to build myself a plastic Sisters and Inquisition army.

Quote from the livestream. Just an offhanded comment.

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>>52950999
>>52951037
>>52951095
Random turns won't be a thing

>>52951124
Thank fucking god.

>>52950520

Who here enjoys the WarhammerTV Twitch streams?

Especially today where SoB beat Tzeentch 10 to 19!

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>>52951037
Anon please, they'll spam aos elements to 40k and you know it, 8ed is the base for AoS second edition, they expect to charm unsatisfied players with this, if it doesn't work out they'll just inject more elements of old fantasy in 40k until they recover the whole player base

>>52951124
That's what I thought. Ty for taking time for finding the sauce on that.

>>52951104
>unless it makes the squad even more expensive
Like they could make TS squads even more expensive.>>52951137

>>52951137
Your post is wrong, but the wendy's girl is cute, so thanks.

>>52951137
Nope, see 3 posts above you. It wont be a thing. Stop being a hater just to hate. You only look dumb.

>>52951137
See?>>52951124 people didn't liked random turns, so they didn't make the cut, expect that being phase out in the next AoS edition

Sisters of battle are the best value for money army, I've been using the same models for the last 15 years, while marine players are going to have to update their basic troops yet again when the tall marines are released.

>>52951190
>expect that being phase out in the next AoS edition
I really hope it will be the case. Its nice to know they didnt use them because the players didnt enjoy it.

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>>52950553
Assuming WAAAAGGGGH energy diddnt manifest in them and just made them start shooting things, an ork warband would probably roll through their farm or something, the ork figures out what the hell has been happening it's entire life, and joins the WAAAAAGGGHHHHH with it's brothers.

>>52951190
So, without Initiative, how will assault work now? The side that charged goes first on subsequent turns as well?

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>He doesn't like quality of life updates
>He doesn't like modern gaming conventions
>He doesn't like trying new things.

Why?

>>52950553
He would bring the Orkz back to their Shamanistic roots and beat Ghazghkull by cheating

>>52951238

I bet it will use morale and attacks. But saying that, it's going to be explained on community site tomorrow afternoon.

>>52950553
>bait a bunch of orks into a warehouse
>gun them down
>let the spores grow and begin the growth of some orks
>become an ork farmer, train them to be either to be green shields for guardsmen or have them be a work force.

>>52950801
Dude what is happening to 40k right now is a really good thing, you are just letting nostalgia get in the way

I came into 40k almost 3 years ago and i cant fucking wait for the new edition, current 40k is over bloated, overly complex, and filled with game breaking mechanics. It took gw this long to re work it because of the amount of effort they would need to put into it, and hey already had a generation of people hooked on it. Now gw has to inspire a new generation to play the game or they will tank.


The new edition is already doing so many things right such as the move stat, damage stat, and re worked physcic phase. The also got rid of templates, and while i like the idea, templates sloe down the game and cause more headaches than benefits

40k was too complex, and while complexity is not inheritly bad, it should add to the game, not detract from it.

The reason why you edition was "the best" edition was because thats he one you grew up playing.


Im extremely excited because while i love the lore and like playing the game, it can be a fucking headache to play.

All the changes that gw has leaked so far are drastic improvements, and anyone that claims otherwise are with trolls, power gamers, or pants on head retards

>>52951303
The only way these fools will see the light is until they play it, though they will prob just whine either way.

These communists need to move to China.

>>52950553
>What would happen if an Ork was raised from a very young age as if they were human?

You realise Orks are born "full grown" right?
You couldn't raise him as hum because he'd try to beat you to death and eat from about the moment he popped out of the ground.

>>52951280
No, other way around.
He'd kill off all the smart boyz because he's too dumb to understand what actually makes Ork society work, he'd instead suddenly hire a crapload of Squats to make stuff for him because that certainly makes sense, and Ghazghkull would beat him using normal Ork tactics that would be called 'cheating' by fucking morons.

>>52951303

Gr8 b8 m8

Who thinks Melta will cause mortal wounds or Grav for that matter?

Mortal wounds being unsavable damage.

>>52951303
Agreed, these are the same people who insisted there was nothing wrong with fantasy

>>52951361
Nice post, think of that yourself?

>>52951134

I'd enjoy it more if you heard a bit more of what's being said at the table as its kind of hard to follow the game just from watching.

>>52951302
They either bludgeon you with their tools or squat about like slavs on a playground.

>>52951372
Melta maybe within melta range. Grav probably not

>>52951372
I hope very few things have mortal wounds. Guns spewing out mortal wounds is far worse than any amount of D shots from 7th.

>>52950623
but SoB are in todays video-battlereport by GW
AND they are featured prominently on their new 40k intro page AND we recently got some old models (Immolator) back AND 2 new models which is more than in the last 10years combined.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/04/28/warhammer-live-lists-for-april-28th/

https://warhammer40000.com/setting/explore-the-factions/

Not dead yet

>>52951399

I did get a message reply from one of WarhammerTV about what I can use my flamer for though.

As a tear...

>>52951404
Makes sense that melta would cause unsavable damage seeing as its meant to kill actual tanks

I swear to god if 8th edition doesn't buff Orks or nerf everything else I'm going to flip. How hard is it to create a smaller gap between something like vanilla Nids and Eldar+Tau?!

>>52951454

They refused to answer my question on if we will get new inquisition, but they did say we can say they are and are not coming on plastic sisters.

>>52951042
The changes to the psychic phase itself are good. Smite means that every Psyker will have at least one decent Witchfire power, and everybody will get to try to cast now.

The big question is what the Tzeentch/Thousand Sons table is like and whether or not they're going to port over that retarded rule of one thing from AoS for matched play. They probably are, based on the comment about matched play having some restriction on the psychic phase, and that's going to suck majorly for Thousand Sons if we only have ~6 spells to choose from.

>>52951468
As long as Phil Kelly lives, yes.

>Magnus will automatically know all powers from Tzeentch Daemons and Thousand Sons factions, including unique spell Gaze of Magnus
>Magnus makes psychic power tests with three dice
>Magnus can not suffer Perils of the Warp

More or less what i expect form the big guy.

>>52951454
not only that, they made the immolator components out of resin.

However that raises a nasty point against the SoB, they still have metal models and aren't making new ones. Its just stock that hasn't been bought out.

I doubt they'd make plastic SoB while they have the metal stock

>>52951468
Every faction is said to be playtested and balanced, and that this edition has been there most extensively play tested along with getting help from American gamers in the play testing. They also said every unit has been tested in battle.

>>52951354
But what if you convinced him Humans were Orks?

>>52951042
This entire edition is a huge for you. Your army, aside from Magnus, we overcosted as fuck so you really like new points. New armor system makes Rubric's bolters and invu saves that much stronger, and sorc can now actually do shit instead of acting as WC battery.

>>52951484
Cant help you there. GW is notorious for not telling what they are up to. The last batch of plastic sister rumors, including the "announcement" on that video where one warhammercommunity dude claimed he had plastic sisters of battle gave a release date close to when new celestine came out, so it was *not* a lie even if it did not update the whole range.

>>52951545
Humans aren't green

What are the
L O R E
O
R
E

Changes or additions?

>>52951559
They iz if Orks think dey iz

Alternitavely, convince them pink and brown and such are shades of green.

>>52951562
Galaxy torn in half by warpstorms.
Guilliman's secret weapons deployed.

>>52951562
Fluff is still valid.

>>52951554
Btw one of the hosts in the stream fucked his lineup. He was about to say SoB are so expensive! and transitioned into something mid 'ex'

>>52951584
>>52951592
Good, good. My warpboner is satiated.

What army should I start for 8th?

Sold everything I had several editions ago to pay for an army in a different game (no regrets).

>>52951584

The Imperium have Gellar bombs

>>52951562
Guilliman is going to activate the remaining Blackstone fortresses and use them to wreck shit.

>>52951042
it means the same for you as for everyone else
wait and see till the whole package is out, there is no reason to judge individual pieces without seeing their interaction.

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>The emperor of mankind enters your chamber
>OH HAY ANON
What do you do?

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>>52951562
Warp is warping

Guilliman storyline ongoing

Necrons are Empire-ing up

Tyranids are squatted

>>52951614
Death Guard

>Orks won Soulstorm
my fucking sides

>>52951614
One you can also play in 30k to maximize your investment.

>>52951614
Da Orkz iz alwayz da best way ta start. But ya should pick whateva fits yer best way krumpin' 'eads.

>>52951515
So basically, if you magical realming neckbeards want plastic sisters, fucking buy out the metal stock first you faggots

>>52951303
Fucking 100% this.

40k is dying and gw is trying to jump start it.

Who plays eternal crusade here, and what's your guild?

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>>52951562
the destruction of the pylons opened a galaxy wide warp anomaly going from the eye of terror to the tau empire
it is now easier for chaos entities to manifest, which means greater presence of daemon primarchs

the half of the imperium that got cut off from terra is now labelled imperium nihilus, how hopeless they are or feel it's up to see, but we also have baal there where the successors of the blood angels are gathering to fight a massive tendril of leviathan

guilliman has worked with the priesthood of mars to create new marines

armageddon is going to be relevant again
the rock is near there

slaanesh is going to get the final succ from ynnead and cegorach

the necron dinasty of the eastern fringe is on the rise and along ultramar and the tau empire cover one of the few entrances left in the warp anomaly for the tyranids to enter from that side of the fringe

fenris is in the middle of the shitstorm

>>52951515

I bought a couple of immolator after imperial agents was released, the only component that's resin is the transparent windows for the turret.

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Select
Your
Allegiance

>>52951686

Fuck you! You know how much they bloody cost?

One squad of sisters can buy me, 2 squads of Skitarii warriors a Mechanicus Adept with many skills and fancy title along with a Dune Walker. That's just comparing buying one squad to one other army!

>>52951724
>Fenris
>Daemon Primarchs

Magnus vs Furry Fuck showdown happening? My two favorite Primarchs?

>>52951740
Hordes, assuming the Marines have rebelled from the Imperium.

>>52951753
Magnus was already banished with the help of Khorne, but he still managed to bring his planet in realspace, spiting distance from the Rock.

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>>52951097

>>52951778
Or is that the case? Things could go along just as planned.

>>52951614
same as always, look at the minis and buy which minis you prefer. Rules change, minis not so much

>>52951603

Let's be honest, these guys got their jobs because they like games like we do, so they know when armies are too expensive. They accidentally did the same thing on Wednesday talking about forge world, joking that the models where made out of aether gold to justify the price tag.

>>52951818
Nah, with his goal completed, Magnus was mostly fucking around crushing GK, Wolves and DA before he ate Axe of Mwhatever to the face, after which Khorne's laughter was heard through the entire galaxy.

>>52951859
Ah, well that's a shame. I liked him.

>>52951884
magnus deserves everything and more

the only good daemon pimarch is fulgrim

>>52951686
i also want more than a handful of singlepose models and an army that does not weight a ton when carrying around.

>>52951818
>>52951859
>>52951884
He was in Rise of the Primarch too.
He got into a fight with Guilliman on the moon.

>>52950553
I'd imagine it's like the Rick and Morty episode where Morty tries to raise a male Gazorpazorpian. He grows up somewhat normal but knowing he is a rage filled "other"

>>52951901
You are officially a shit

>>52951901
Magnus deserves to be Un-daemoned. Did nothing wrong.

>>52951747

I bough my sisters army way back at the start of third edition, and people told me I was crazy for buying such an expensive army, but their value has gone up so much it's probably the best investment I've ever made.

Like a box of 10 models cost less than a blister of three now costs.

>>52951912
Stop referencing Reddit shows

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Just finished Dawn of War.

Here is the final image after the credits.

>>52951884
Magnus is immortal, he just got banished to Warp for .. about a few months? Hours?
>>52951910
>throws a space ship on Guilliman
>doesn't throw a space ship on SoS when they resist his beam

>>52951912
Go back to 1d4ddit please

>>52951747
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sisters-of-Battle-full-10-girl-squad-POSTAGE-FREE-/302288417908?hash=item4661cb3474:g:o~sAAOSwzqFY9uJG

Go for the second hand market then poorfag. Here's one for free. Some armies are more expensive than others.

And who knows, maybe them hiking the prices on Sisters means they're running out?

>>52951945
No one gives a shit about Dawn of Moba 3

>>52951947
Yeah, but I'm still sad he lost.

>>52951945
I mean, I think everyone expected that
neat regardless

>Stubbs fucking lost to Gorgutz in Soulstorm
>DoW3 final boss is a khorne daemon
>epilogue shows dlc bait Necrons
LOL

>>52951719

Played it and maxed my CSM/Ork characters.
Played with AAA while with chaos because I play sneaky.
Didn't play with Ork guilds because they have retarded mentalities and Ork teamwork was already very good among ransoms.
I uninstalled shortly after the game went f2p.

>>52951945
Oh wow what a twist never saw that coming

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>>52951945
This raises a few question. The planet was a prison planet that the Necrons constructed for daemons storage a long ago during their wars in the ancient past. Why were the Necrons imprisoning daemons

Picture related. It's the BBEG litterally put on ice by the Necrons.

>>52951965
Well, he can't exactly eradicate an entire faction or three.

That's just bad for business.

>>52951945
WHOEVER COULD THIS BE?
HMMM? HMMM? HMMMMM?

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I have an idea for an OC chapter I want to run. The idea is that they see heavy use of power swords and bolt pistols, and have a teutonic crusader aesthetic, as opposed to the black templar's hospitaller crusader aesthetic. However, I cant think of a chapter to run them as a successor to that would allow me to take squads of power sword armed non-jump infantry. Any suggestions? Can also be a non-compliant chapter.

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>>52951614
Freebooterz.

>>52951988
If true that's fucking dumb, surely it's just that Gorgutz beat the shit out of BOREALE but IG won overall

>>52951945
>literally Tobi is Obito tier

>>52951945
necrons

I like it

>>52952003
That is so oversized it's not even funny lol

Stupid fucking reddit game overexaggerating sizes.

>>52952005
He doesn't get enough badass moments. Sanguinius or Russ probably would have. Fucking popularity power.

>>52952024
No, IG are turboshitters and Gorgutz fucking won.

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>>52951951
>>52951943

>Stop liking things that lots of people like

>>52951502
I'm pretty sure that like in AoS almost every Sorcerer (from aspiring to exalted) will have a couple of spells beyond the one they generate, with at least one unique one per unit type.
In addition Ahriman will probably also have his own unique spell(s) so despite possibly only having 6 spells to choose from there's a good chance there will be so many spells from other sources that it won't be a problem.

I'm also not entirely sure they'll get rid of the generic disciplines, especially since they hold lore significance to the Thousand Sons.

>>52952024
The game says that Gorgutz conquered the Kaurava.

>>52952021
Is their chapter symbol just the symbol of Catholicism?

>>52952021
Storm Wardens

>>52952021
If you'll settle for regular CCWs or chainswords rather than power weapons you can run them as Carcharodons.

>>52952058
>le ebin maymay face
>>>/1d4ddit/

>>52950553
DIGGANOBZ

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>>52952077

>>52952047
That's the daemon's actual size. It got shorter when the planet exploded.

>>52952052

Still waiting for legitimate proof on that one.

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>>52950801
>mfw

>>52951642
>Tau blocked in by Nuperium's capital worlds and Necron empire

F

>>52952067
yes, don't tell anyone
>>52952069
Do storm wardens have in-game chapter tactics?
>>52952073
Didn't think of Charcharodons. It would be pretty weird for them to be a successor but I guess it could work. The idea is that they are on a never ending crusade in the outer fringes of the galaxy, with the goal of conquering planets for the Imperium.

>>52952021
Ideas for a name:

The Emperor's Retribution
Deliverers of Justice
Lightning Lions

>>52952085
No, that's a human that thinks he's an Ork, it's the opposite of what he's asking.

>>52952091
See >>52951123

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>>52952091
Please don't cry, Stubbfag. Gorgutz polishes his skull pretty well.

>>52951740
Imperial Guard provided we get Steel Legion plastics or similar. Otherwise I'll stick with my crons.

>>52951740
stop shitposting

Why couldn't we just get another Dark Crusade campaign?

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>>52952066
>>52952116
So glad i didn't buy this

>>52952116
But but Relic said IG won on the forums. I swear!

>>52952116
>Ork warboss gets bored and responds to this by reading a book

I find this hard to believe.

>>52952116

Ayy Orks won for once!

I mean use Carcharodons rules because every tac marine can take a CCW. I genuinely wouldn't recommend using them for fluff reasons. I doubt they've produced any successors because they've been on the periphery of the Imperium for ten millennia.

>>52952154
He probably got a slave who knew.

>>52951954
Damn 3rd ed was a long time ago now and that was my entry starter, and that took me a couple years saving but I loved my minis. I actually loved the lore more though, that 3rd ed rulebook is by far the one I have read most extensively.

>>52952168
>>52952104
Missed your number anon my bad

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>>52952116
>Vect got defeated by an Ork

Buahahahaha

>>52951941
>>52952186

Oops, wrong numbers... forgive this dumb idiot, Also many thanks for the link.

What do you guys think of Text to Speech Device? I was thinking about watching it.

>>52952186
3rd ed fluff and art is amazing yeah man.

>>52952222
9/10 if you know a lot about the lore
4/10 if you're new to the franchise

I almost wish it had more influence on the actual canon

>>52952235
It's that good?

Gonna be fighting a Warlord Titan soon. Me (SM), and a Tau player are fighting up against it. 1500 points each.

I was thinking of running a Dreadnought heavy list, for that sweet S10 AP2. Any other list considerations?

I can't fucking believe it

The Stubbs meme is fucking dead

>>52952222
Its enjoyable, the non-canon and caricatured story thats developing is alright.

It got me to play 1ksons

>>52950553
"hello son, welcome to the world, we are your parents!"
"da ell you umies on about, iz gonna stick yas *sticking sounds*. Now werez me dakka?"

They are born full grown and genetic intelligence is programmed into them. Thats also how mekboyz and mad doks and weirdboyz work. Every one in 1,000 or so boyz is born with all the knowledge they will ever need to be that profession. Programmed at the races conception.

>>52952262
Good luck, dread is hitting it on sixes. Just give up if he's running a psi titan.

>>52952222
0/10 if you know the lore, 5/10 if you're from reddit.

>>52952262
loads of flyers. i think a warlord usually does not have something to engage flyers with

>>52952227
It was just bursting at the seams with art and lore and it had pretty much every core army represented as well. It even had a bit on the RPG and how the warp would infest a psykers mind, turning them into a planetary killing bomb wiping out all life.
Considering they want a return to form, I have high hopes for 8th ed.

>>52952250
It's good in the sense that it's funny, at times, but still holds true to most of the fluff and has a lot of jokes at the setting/writing
The Slaanesh special killed me at the end

>>52952302
I'll certainly check it out, then.

>>52952110
I like "The Emperor's Retribution"

>>52952324
Remove 'The'

>>52952216
>they added Vect in Soulstorm
What the fuck were they thinking?

So, it's been a minute since I played. Last I played was 3rd edition. I ran a Khrone rush army, an only boyz ork army, and a balanced Chaos army.


Has a lot changed? Is it worth dusting off the old minis and heading to the local game store? Will I get my shit rekt nowadays?

>>52952339
I mean it could kind of work if they literally view themselves as the emperors retribution and refer to their chapter in the third person.
However, if you're going with a crusader aesthetic, why not "Crusaders of Retribution"?

>>52952324
Thanks. I was going for some "bolt of divine retribution" imagery.

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>>52952262
Does the warlord have this gun?

>>52951137
>8ed is the base for AoS second edition
this so much

AOS was Beta test for 40K 8th and now they'll put out AOS 2nd with all the 40k 8th changes. Maybe even making the games fully compatible in the process.

>>52952365
'Templars of Retribution?'

>>52952380
99% sure it wont have that.

>>52952403
"Templaris Typhaeon"

>>52952395

They may keep AoS an entry game, so people can break into the format easier and graduate up onto 40K.

>>52952353
Tell me about your chaos army dawg

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>>52950553
>an Ork was raised from a very young age as if they were human

Even Ork yoofs could tear the arm off your average man and beat him to death with the soggy end. They're "born" with innate martial knowledge and a desire to dominate those around them.

You're not going to be able to rehabilitate an Ork, no matter how young you start.

>>52951523
>Every faction is said to be playtested and balanced, and that this edition has been there most extensively play tested along with getting help from American gamers in the play testing. They also said every unit has been tested in battle.

AOS points balance is at best a 4/10 I really hope they stepped it up a notch for 40k 8th

>>52952472
>S:3
>Ripping an arm off

>>52952472
What if they were raised by a Worshipper of Khorne? Not that much different, but could lead to some humany-traits.

>>52950905
It's almost the old 3-5 Ed. system. Everytime GW tries to make a really elaborate Magic of Psychic phase it ends up as far more trouble than it's worth.

>Epilogue

>It drifted through the void, broken, scarred and shattered. A single shard of Acheron’s superstructure, the only piece to have returned to real space when the planet was annihilated. Its creators, deathless and eternal, were already aware of the fate that had befallen it. They had looked on, in silent, cold fury, as the lesser races had tampered with their carefully wrought designs.

>The cage was broken. The work of aeons was shattered.

>Someone would pay.

The last line really makes you think

>>52951042
Basically it mean your Sorc is going to be the Heavy Weapons guy found in every other Marine squad. He just has a really funny Plasma Cannon strapped to his head.

>>52952531
More like it really makes you stimk

https://natfka.blogspot.de/2017/04/8th-edition-starter-set.html
>Each dex will get the special army wide rules, 6-12 relics, 6 warlord traits, and 6 psychic powers, only now it’s written that you can chose to ether select or roll on warlord/psychic charts. It will also contain full rules and points for all the old and new units in a given army, and special rules for things like warbands, campaigns, narrative missions and the like.
Well, now your warlord will act the same way every game if you want him to.
>Formations are back, but they cost points now, and so are decurons, but they will be a lot more flexible and take cues from their AoS counterparts.

Oh yeah, that guy hoping for plastic drones, it seems you got your wish.
>The starter set goes live the 17th and is going to be Death Guard Vs. Ultramarines, $120 box. Chaos gets a blob of cultists, a few terminators, a few plague marines, a lord, and drones. Loyalists get 2 tactical squads, a devastator, an assault squad, plus a librarian and a captain.

>>52952443
Big ol demon prince for HQ, I'd have to go pull the list for specifics, but I know he was a beast the way he was set up. A squad of Terminators, 3 squads of Berzerkers in Rhinos, each with a champion and an axe of khorne, 3 Obliterators each as their own unit, a Defiler, A heavy troop with lascannon and heavy bolter, and a squad of bikes.

I have some demon stuff I'd run occasionally and a handful of Nurgle troops. A bunch of other misc stuff I never ran either, but that was what I usually ran in a 1750-2000 point game.

>>52952426
>graduate up onto 40K.
>implying 40k 8th is appreciably more complex that AOS

buddy you're in for a shock, I know the AOS rules set inside out and from the teasers on the community site and what we know so far 40K 8th is AOS except with some very minor differences that were obviously things that they have listed to AOS people bitch out for the last two years.

>>52952494
S3 covers a wide degree of strength. Malnourished conscripts are S3, so are unbelievably ripped Catachans who bench 400kg on their rest day.

>>52952491
AoS points balance was an afterthought bolted on to the system. Plus, like AoS, 8th will have a General's Handbook with yearly points updates across the entire game. By that alone it should be the most balanced 40k has ever been even if there are issues at first.

>>52951454
Where is this battle report, I must watch 8th ed

>>52952564
Yeah, but 8E doesn't have double turns.

Thank fucking god.

>>52952560
Berzerkers are shit in this edition by all accounts but I've never actually seen them fielded so some other anon can let you know. Bikes and termies sound alright. Only thing I can suggest is you take them to the store and take them for a whirl, mang.

>>52952547
>blob of cultists
FUCK
THIS
SHIT

>>52952633
If they're new sculpts I'm all for it, could do with some new recruits for the blob.

>>52952587
It's not 8th ed anon. It's just today's Warhammer Live.

Any anons going to wArhammer fest in may?

>>52952506
You'd just end up with a corrupted Ork, Gork/Mork aren't really much different from Khorne in terms of the behaviour they desire from their worshippers. Keeps getting bigger until something kills it or it encounters proper Orks who rip it apart due to the Ork's inbuilt anti-corruption behaviours.

The Chaos gods don't seem particularly interested in Orks in general, Khornate Ork might get a horn or two but nothing spectacular. They're not going to waste boons on them if there are perfectly good humans to fuck with. Slaanesh seems straight up repulsed by them, only Nurgle really takes an interest but then Pappy loves all things sicken and die and even Orks qualify.

Might be slightly more obsessed with collecting skulls than a regular Ork but it's not like that isn't a pretty common hobby for Orks anyway.

>>52951740
I have
>2 marine armies
>tau
>necrons
>orks
>alpha legion chaos
>admech

I have no allegiance. Also send help.

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>>52952652
Probably gonna be these guys from the DG reveal trailer. You can see two variants there.

Here's hoping they release fully modular plastic kits for Death Guard and their minions like the Thousand Sons got last year and we're not just limited to snap fit garbage.

>>52952506
You can't raise an Ork man. They are born fully grown and hard-coded with all the basic Ork stuff, more so if they are a Mek or a Dok. He'd try to krump ya' immediately.

>>52950580
I think this is actually a pretty common sentiment around here now. There's generally a sense of cautious optimism. Mostly because 7th is so bad we can only go up from here.

>>52952671
I feel sorry for your wallet

bring psychic powers back to

lil zap
tickle daemons/psykers a bit
give temporary close combat boosts to psyker (who is shit at cc)
always on powers like warp field, warlock powers

>>52952547
>2 tactical squads, a devastator, an assault squad, plus a librarian and a captain
jesus christ how much is this starter set going to cost?

>>52952680
I think that if the AoS starter is any indication, they'll be mostly monopose but with full proper kits coming out soon afterwards.

>>52950580
I think AOS is a pretty poor game, but 7th is a sin against game design so I'm not weeping for it.

>>52952667
I'm just interested in how Ork kultur and psychology develop. Wouldn't mind thinking of a way to create good Orks, Uruk-like Orks, or even psychologically humanlike Orks.

Really I just want the possibility of Imperium-aligned Orks.

>>52952703
$120

>>52952703
Probably about the same as Burning of
Prospero? It's a pretty similar model count just with some extra chaff in the form of the cultists.

>>52952707
I hope to god. We never got proper Chosen and Cultist kits in 6e so we'll have to see.

>>52952715
orks have existed for tens of millions of years and they've stayed the same after they became "feral" when the old ones were wiped out

there can be some weird orks but they will never last or spread to the next generation on their own

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I just know in my fucking bones that Orks will still be shit

Other races will be flying around doing multiple damage and mortal wounds out the ass, and orks will be stuck being shit as ever

Was information on the psychic phase released? I cant find it on the community or main sites

>>52952666
Some of the /hhg/ anons are going.

>>52952715
Hire some Blood-axes then. Otherwise you'd need genetic engineering to alter the spores while at the same time inhibing their growth. In the end you'd either get a lab full of Orks or waste massive resources building objectively inferior Orks.

pro-tip, don't strip kromlech minis in denatured alcohol. The resin was all bendy, and broke in some areas. :(

>>52952633
Can always sell the pays you don't want.
Deepening in the sculpts I might buy some.

>>52952741
I guess my dream of Ork Spacemarines was never going to happen
>>52952752
Yeah, i guess.

>>52952472
I bet baby gretchen, AKA snotlings, could be used by humans, though.

Did 8th show up because SoB are too overpower for GW?

They totally reckt Tzeench demons while using a horrible list.

>>52952757
dont strip resin in alchohol period

use mean green or something

>>52952715
It's printed into their genes at a fundamental level.

An Ork that was grown in complete isolation would still behave like an Ork.

In terms of Imperium-aligned Orks, isolated/unscrupulous Imperial Governors hire Ork mercenaries when they can't get Spehs Muhreens or Guard to solve their problems.

Doesn't usually end well but there's bound to be exceptions where Humans and Orks have developed an uneasy working relationship.

>>52952742

At least you don't have a rules writer who is committed to making sure no Tyranid player ever has fun again. Orks are shit because no one cares about them at GW and they just lazily copy-paste rules, Nids have a dedicated saboteur.

>>52952747
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/04/28/new-warhammer-40000-psychic-phase/

>>52952547
I may be really interested in this box if the ultramarines don't have/don't have too many ultramarines icons and blings, so that I can convert it in a better chapter

And this rumor must be also true,
obviously

>>52952747
You didn't look well apparently
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/04/28/new-warhammer-40000-psychic-phase/

>>52952742
I'm alright with factions being shit, as long as they are costed accordingly. 2pt orc boys for everyone.

>>52952547

>Tau are going to get 6 psychic powers

Really makes you think

>>52952686
He is fine, I love to collect armies and games that GW axed.

>>52952686
meh a unit a month for 20 years isnt bank breaking.

>>52952779
Pretty sure they're unbelievably vicious despite their size and subserveince to Orks. Like 'gouge-your-eyes-out-while-you-sleep-for-laughs' vicious. They're still feral bioweapons at the end of the day.

>>52952807
Necrons to.

>>52951095
random turn always fucks me over royally

How heretekal would it be to paint rusted and worn admech gear?

>>52952807
This replaces nova reactors and other battlesuit abilities.

>>52952715
Yarrick is proof that Orks can grow to admire/fear specific humans who impress them. I could see an eccentic Ork who worked for Rogue Trader who impressed the hell out of him for example. Doesn't mean he's going to start praising the Emperor.

>>52952836
worn, maybe not heretical
allowing the foul corruption of rust to form on the holy body of the machine?
heresy of the utmost kind

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>>52952145

>Orks proven best race
>IG fags so buttblasted they shit on the game itself

Get rekt

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>>52952547

>with a couple of fluff pieces talking about how the galaxy got ripped in half and how all the marines got taller.

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>>52952803
>Not only is your army shit, but you have to buy 5 times as many models as anyone else

>>52952866
>how all the marines got taller

This better be a meme.

>>52952116

IG PLAYERS ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>52952547
>Cheap plague terminators

I knew the good Lord left me with an empty Elite slot in my 30k DG for a reason. I hope we get a multi-part plague marine kit soon, I need 10 MkIII dudes and mixing them with BoP suits should give an even spread of corruption.

>>52952787
Orks are somewhat imitative, as seen with the bloodaxes, they'll dress up and put on a weird pantomime of the structure of other forces if their leader happens to like that particular style, but no matter what, it's always orky.

>>52952547

>They want new players to feel less intimidated by the dense lore and setting, but want to keep returning players invested in the storyline. Black library is going to do a soft reboot for some of the new 40k lore books, with a gimmicky “New Warhammer” type flagship launch to, as I said before, laydown a ground floor for the upcoming 8th edition.

So this is why they are phasing out the Space Marine chapters to be replaced by Guilliman's NuMarines

>>52952898
This is what I'm gonna do too man, pretty hype. Might even pick up a Blightkings box for extra bits.

So I bought my second IK today. How do we think they'll end up in 8e?

>>52952775
That wouldn't work even with a cooperative ork. It doesn't even work on humans with vaginas. You can't just space marine anything you like.

Also it's heresy.

>>52952936
Man I don't even have any interest in playing Death Guard but it's so nice to see the other cult legions will be getting the same treatment (model wise) as my Thousand Sons.

>>52952936
I hope the kit comes with a ton of those old style MkII helmets as well. I need like 30, since I want to make an old school DG army (MkIII with MkII helmets and MkIV with MkIII helmets, all with nice big spikes on top).

>>52952966
Over ten strength and 20+ wounds

>>52951642
So Tau are about to have a hard time

>>52952819
Oh they are straight up little Damiens, the only thing that helps with overwhelming sense of your own inferiority is taking it out on the smaller/weaker/unsuspecting.

The bloodymindedness of orks, filtered though creativity and cowardice.

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Just painted my first miniature. Thoughts?

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>>52952671
You have become tainted by Xenos.

You know what must be done.

>>52952547
So dumb down the lore because the kids can't read 3 decades worth of lore?

Do we have weaker and stupider children today? What is this faggot shit? I don't want another war to fix this faggy mes

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>>52953014

>Tau having a hard time
>ever

>be imperial guard fan
>my guy Creed is gone
>my favorite vidya meme character Stubbs is a fraud
>my fantasy counterpart and its setting got squatted and the whole army turned into Sigmarine's bitchboys and janitors

Holy fucking shit. Fuck you, GW.

>>52953031
Need Duncan's tutelage, my man.

>>52953048
Fair enough. I've honestly never painted anything before this, and I KNOW I fucked up the eyes. Still, not too unhappy considering I just learned the basics 2 days ago.

>>52953046
>be imperial guard fan
>sustain heavy losses
>soldier on regardless

You need to git gud, trooper. Report to your commissar.

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>>52952908
I want to make a really human Ork army. Like the ones in Deff Skwadron.

Not until they update the minis tho. Once I can get Boyz that look like Snikrot, I'll happily spend converting with all my IG bits. Orks just look better without the gorilla pose and with big ears.

Since there isn't the cap at 10 anymore, would the Dreadnought CCW turn their strength into S12?

>>52953031
It's tiny, sidweways and only 1/15th of the picture is the actual model.

>>52953074
probably

>>52953067
Some people want to pretend to be one. No need to actually soldier them up becaue GW is incompetent

Don't worry little zoats you'll get 8th edition rules

>>52953031
THIN YOUR PAINTS

>>52953046
>my guy Creed is gone

And nothing of value was lost.

Now, if only they could clone Macharius or something... I'd be fine with even an albino afriel strain one.

>>52953071
>upated minis

Consider getting the new Bloodbowl Ork models. Give them some wrist-mounted guns or the like and they'd look fine as Boyz for only slightly more money.

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>>52953046

>we have Sturnn, Merrick, Castor
>you fell for the Stubbs meme

>>52953074
Quick, what's 6*2?

>>52953031
>http://gravengames.co.uk/stripping-paint-from-warhammer-and-other-miniatures-using-dettol/

>>52953071
How are they "Human"?

That's just Orks being Orks.

Personally I use my IG bits for the grits, helmets, caps pistols and backpacks fit them perfect.
And Heavy weapons teams make for decent Big Gunz stand ins.

How do Space Marines get supplies?

>>52953116
Sturnn also died to Gorgutz if the shitty novel is to be believed.

>>52953129
Via drop pods, aerial supply drops, teleportation, etc.

>>52953115
This anon has the right idea. Also Brutes from AoS look good as nobz or meganobz if you convert their weapon arms.

>>52953031
Is that a fucking cardboard pallete? If you don't want to use a wet one, and least use plastic.

Also, don't post models on /tg, people will shit all over them.

>>52953071
>Orks just look better without the gorilla pose and with big ears.
>converting with all my IG bits

Are you sure you dont' want to be playing IG?
Or Renegades?

>>52953122
62

>>52953139
No I meant like how they get supplies in general.

I hope they make a new Abaddon model, his old one is looking a little... Dated.

>>52953129
Chapters are given worlds in fief, they draw resources and initiates from the,

>>52953157
Chapter forges and forge worlds/industrial worlds with orders to supply them with stuff they need.

>>52953165
Lets see, abaddon was released around 97?
When were the last SoB released?

>>52953106
>Creed goes

Then sells out in on GW store, it's almost like people forgot he was a model.

>>52953115
Yeah I'm tempted to do this.

I'm holding off due to 8th ed but if there's no sign of Orks within the year I'll get the Bloodbowl Orcs and take a saw and greenstuff to them.

Good thing about Orks is they're easy as shit to do quite radical conversions on without it looking like shit, because Ork tech is supposed to be covered in crap spot-welding and random gubbins.

>>52953171
>>52953179
I have a friend that says they do "missions" for people like mercenaries and get stuff like that.

>>52953127
The Warboss is walking around dressed more like an Imperial Guard commander than a regular Ork warboss.

The flyboyz are all wearing aviator caps and WW2 pilot jumpsuits.

They're obviously Blood Axes and thus, pretty human by Ork standards.

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>>52951740
Woooh weee. Can't wait to run my Necron/Tau list that will totally be legal because Grand Alliances for 40k are a real thing and not just the shitpost of the year all years.

>>52953188
No one cares about the Shitsters of Bitchle.

>>52953208
He's full of shit.

Not even renegades do that.

>>52953225

The Kromlech SS German Orks are pretty awesome!

Wonder if Forgeworld will release cheaper books as well

>>52953208
they sometimes do depending on how desparate they are
a chapter that isn't as well supplied may need to exchange their services to the mechanicus to replace power armor that has been recently lost, for example

>>52953228
Like no one cares for 'you'

>>52953242
>forgeworld
>cheaper anything
lmao

What if Yarrick kills Mag Uruk and becomes a Warboss somehow?

>>52953242
I hope so, I suspect that they will since forgeworld units are getting official rules in their respective codices iirc

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>>52953225
So do real flyboy models.

There also Kromlech and other Third party stuff if you want Uniformed Orks.

>>52953208
Tell your friend to provide written evidence of this claim.

Marine chapters control entire planets, they got all the resources they need. And as a military arm of the Imperium, Imperial factories are obligated to provide them with goods. Fleet chapters might have a tougher time, but even they can set up missions on planets to gather tithes and recruits, as well as rely more on 3rd party production of goods.

There's no money exchanging hands here and no case of bolters as payment for securing a planet. They're mandated by the Emperor to protect the Imperium and asking them to pay is asking the Emperor to pay for your services.

>>52953260
See >>52950532, and enjoy screaming in agony while the rest of us laugh at your squatted army.

>>52953271
What if a monkey crawled up your ass and played a fiddle while wearing you as a suit?

>>52953277
I do, he gets upset at me and says I'm wrong and the lore can be whatever because apparently everything is propaganda.

>>52953295
It'd be pretty funny.

>>52950905
It's not stellar but vastly better than the abortion we have now

>>52953305

Yeah, that's a part of the lore to write your own chapter.

>>52953295
That monkey would be playing him like a damn fiddle.

>>52953305
Wave him off, he's obviously not worth discussing lore with.

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After hearing about the new edition coming out, I was tempted to come back and play. Are things looking better for Tyranids and Necrons or is it going to be another edition of me getting laughed off the table by everything but Ork lists?

>>52953339
It's not out yet.

>>52953277
>they're mandated by the emperor to protect the imperium
but you forget that they're not part of the imperium's government. Technically, space marines can choose to accept or deny to accept a request, they are rarely "ordered". Smaller successor chapters that might be fleet based and have a small range of recruiting planets may need to work with other entities to secure resources. They don't act as mercenaries per say, but the mechanicus doesn't give away supplies to anyone for free, not even space marines, and they may need to do something for the mechanicus to get it.

>>52953339
we dont know, its not out yet. Sounds promising though.

Necron can hold their own pretty well in 7th

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>>52953339
> Are things getting better for Necrons

God I hope not

>>52953305
I think your friend is carnac.

>>52953339
No one knows yet but assault looks much better than before and the fact that everyone is getting a full rework of their rules means the current power levels will be completely revamped or at least the current gap will be lessened.

>>52951334
>These communists need to move to China.
They would be fans of the Tau I guess.

>>52953339
When have the Necrons ever been laughed off the table by anything less than Tau and Eldar?

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>>52953366
I wonder...

Is your friend a massive Taufag?

>>52953321
>>52953329
He keeps telling me its more about the table top and about "Your guys" and stuff. How the Black Templars are the best chapter because they don't "follow the rules".

>>52951238
We wait until they release more information, but most likely it will comeback in 9ed

>>52953398
As said
>Wave him off, he's obviously not worth discussing lore with.

>>52953031
I like the color scheme, but the paint does need thinning.

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>>52953398

>>52953046
You forgot:
>Pask is cruising in the Baneblade he said he'd never use


We got, what? Two heroes left?

>>52953277
Irrc, the Mechanicum is required to provide resources. And Planetary Governors often give resources as gifts/bribes not official payments.

A lot of chapter worlds are feudal/feral and have absolutely no way of providing resources to a chapter other than neophytes.

>>52953418
The problem is less the base, and more that I used a wash without enough prep beforehand. The paints were thinned pretty well- in fact, on the grey parts, I overthinned it a bit, and then put on a second coat, which frankly didn't look great.

>>52953274
I would but the only place to play locally is the GW store, the current manager is cool but they change managers more often than I do underwear bi-monthly and I don't want to spend money on an army I might not be able to use if one of them decides non-GW minis are verboten.

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>>52953355
>>52953369
I thought there was some spoilers for what stuff is going to be able to do. Was I misinformed?

>>52953394
It's all that everyone except for the two guys playing GK and Orks runs.

>>52951259
Because like 3ed this is dumbed down edition, we will have to wait until 9 to GW truly decide what direction will the game take, meanwhile we shit post about how the combat phase will evolve

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>>52953397
Pyro-Tau best girl

>>52953409
>>52953427
No get this, apparently I'm wrong that I think Space Marines should act like Space Marines and not perfect OC's with meta level knowledge about how the Imperium is "bad".

>>52953433
>We got, what? Two heroes left?
Marbo pls come back. ;_;

>>52953449
4 marine profiles
3 marine weapons
general shape of movement and psychic phase.