/WFG/ Warhammer Fantasy General

>>52949951
Oh god the old Dwarfs were so much better before they became ALL METAL NORSE AND SCOTTISH DUDS

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>>52949996

GW seems hell-bent on giving everyone plate armour, even the most basic infantryman must have plate in the new setting.

>>52949996
Those actually look more or less the same.
>>52950028
The models for these dudes have chainmail and a helmet.

Only Hammerers and Ironbreakers have plate. Also the Ironbreakers woth guns, and new Longbeards. Some old Longbeards also had plate though.

The only major change Dwarfs ever had was when GW tore down Marauder and burned it.

>>52950071

If they ever get around to rehashing what was the old Dwarf range for AoS they'll probably drop the classic Dwarf warrior box and just have Longbeards be the new core. Hence why I want 3 boxes of them ASAP.

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>>52950028
>everyone must have plate armour
Lizardmen =/= plate armour

>>52950110
I'd bet they would drop both.

Irondrakes fit their new direction better and the ranged options always were popular.

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>>52950028
>GW seems hell-bent on giving everyone plate armour, even the most basic infantryman must have plate in the new setting.

?

>>52950356
Giving Slayers any kind of armor is too much.

>>52950356

Wow 5 examples. I'm clearly wrong.

Meanwhile they have an entire faction of gold super men.

>>52950443
You said the most basic infantry men must have plate, and that GW was hell-bent on giving everyone plate.
But the only new faction where everyone has full plate is Stormcast.

>>52950213
Scaly skin was basically plate armour but better, though.

>>52950496

Okay there are two archetypes, evil barbarian muscle man who wears nothing and nice civilised man who wears plate.

>>52950497
Plate was 4+
Scaly skin on Lizardmen was 5 or 6+.

>>52950531

Plate was 3+ wasn't it? Heavy armour was 4+.

>>52950526
Nah, there are chaos warriors who are evil barbarian plate wearers.

The plate/naked dichotomy still holds though.

>>52950443
>one faction out of dozens has plate armor?!
>Holy shit, everyone must have it!!!

kys

>>52950526
Well, no.
Fyreslayers and Sylvaneth are typically good and wear nothing.
Kharadon Overlords are good and wear mostly rubberised suits.

>>52950549
heavy on its own was 5+
heavy+shield was 4+
heavy+shield+mount was 3+
heavy+shield+mount+barding was 2+
gromril on its own was 4+ or 3+, I think?

been a while

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Shills out in force today.

>>52950583

I get confused because Empire knights with lance and shield always had a 1+ and that was usually the only interaction we had with plate. So I guess take away 3 for barding, shield and mount and yeah it must have been a 4+.

>>52950549
>>52950583
Light was 6+
Heavy was 5+
Plate/Gromril/Chaos was 4+
You had to go to magic armour to get a naturally higher save, but things like shields, being mounted and having barding could increase the save.

>>52950589
I'm just pointing out that not everyone, or even close to everyone wears plate in Age of Sigmar.
How does that make me a shill?

>>52950356
I hate to admit it but those tzeenchian cultists look nice

except that godawful mace-axe

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I kind of like the White Dwarf and Black Gobbo minis this year.

Too bad they'll probably cost as much new as the older good ones cost OOP.

>>52950676

The WD looks alright, BG not so much.

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>>52950676
I'd buy these for $10 each.
I'd consider them for $20.

But they'll probably both be $40 each.

But I can actually say now that they made one AoS mini and two BB sets, the other being the Skaven team, I would buy.

>>52949996
I disagree. They look like fucking war toddlers on this particular art.

>>52950589

There is no need to when AoS actually sells.

>>52950659

They're braziers.

>>52950659
All of the new tzeentchian miniatures minus LoC look ace and don't have the OOT look so typical of recent miniatures.

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fuck the nuhammer bitching and focus on the good news.

Warhammer 2 Artwork looks awesome and I love the direction the various armour designs are taking.

Here's hoping the Units will get a more distinct look than any before.

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You are at the FLGS complaining about AoS and this guy slaps your ass, what do you do ?

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>>52951040
Age of Reckoning had the best armour designs of all time.

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>>52951347

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>>52951347
Is that Vampire alright?

>>52951393
Bright Wizards were always my favourite Empire Unit.

>>52951478
>scared.jpg

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>>52951543
I love all the College wizards. So much you could do with them in design, so few of them worth a damn on the table.

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>>52950356
/tg/ providing evidence to the contrary in their own post never fails to amuse me

>>52952182
I'm not going to be able to unsee that now. It's like Nomura and his obsession with belts/chains.

>>52952182
You know that's not what he meant.
Every Fantasy army has plates of armour on them as well.

>>52952182
That argument is settled, dumbass.

You are not adding to constructive discussion.

>>52952182
Well done lad

Guys, it's time to accept Age of Sigmar. You guys clearly can't stop talking about this meme game.

>>52952453
Because that meme games is actual Warhammer.

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>>52951569
doesn't look very scared to me. Looks like he's thinking about fucking your bitch.

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My favorite new design is Isabella.

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One of my favorite things about Warhammer Fantasy was the old artwork. It hits a "goofy but badass in an ultimately cheesy kind of way" spot that I don't think many other mediums would allow for.

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Which faction has the best plate armour for their basic infantrymen?

>>52952976
>he was this mad

>>52952453
Why don't you move on from 40k to Starcraft then?

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>>52952917
I kind of wish she was more monstrous. Not specifically Vlad tier, but she's far too pretty for a Vampire. She has a pale human face and baby fangs.

She should look more monster-y than the noname Vampire heroes.

>>52952976
Why do even daemons have plate armor?

>>52952917
>>52953135
I mean, yeah, but I'm still glad they covered up the panties and thigh highs from her model. Offputting.

>>52952976
why is the scale so inconsistent in this pic? It's buggin me

>>52952976
To be fair, that wood elf clearly only has leather and scale.

I think there has to be some sort of distinction between 'plate armor' and 'a piece of armor that is plate.' Otherwise just a breastplate would be plate armor, and we know that's not right.

>>52953213
>To be fair, that wood elf clearly only has leather and scale.

I dunno, those shinguards look pretty plate to me.

>>52953172
Yeah, she looks badass.

I kinda wish they made a kit of her with the winged horse now though.

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>>52953135
She looks really monstrous

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>>52953135
Vampiresses should be smokin hot.

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>>52953510
Von Carsteins should be hot when they're trying to be.

When they get into conflict and drop the glamour where Vlad looks like a rotten corpse, Mannfred looks like an angry cabbage, and Konrad's jaw unhooks like a fish, the females should look like this.

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Its another vampire posting thread.
my fucking god.
Even fimir wank last christmas to frebruary was better.

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>>52953510
>>>52953697
>You'll never warm Isabella's cold body with your hot manhood.
>After a session of passionate love making you'll never have her wrap around you like a hot water bottle

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>>52953577
it's actually much more related to the amount of animalistic degeneration the individual vampire has experienced, while Blood Dragons are usually very Composed, they don't degenerate at the same rate as Carsteins.

On top of that Carsteins are close familiars to bats and wolves, and Carstein Vampires that lose their mind are turning into Varghulfs and other Beasts.

Both Vlad and Mannfred have been dead several times, and thus are quite far gone mentally and physically. But younger and less degenerate Vampires aren't that animalistic yet.

but your pic is a pretty good depiction of what a degenerate female Carstein Vamp would look like.

>>52951040
The current concept art we are getting is fucking glorious, if it gets translated into TWW:2 it will be a complete nerdgasm
>Lizardmen without their oversized crest and no longer restricted to having to fit on Rank&File
>Silver helms looking pimp as fuck
>Witch elves looking as you expect

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Anyone have suggestions for Empire/Greenskin regiments from the lore that might be fun to mod into Total War?

>>52954449
Rugluds Armoured Orcs
Morglum Necksnapper and his Big Un's
Grom the Paunch
Hobgobla Khan and his Wolf Boyz

Carroberg Greatswords
Any of the Dark Omen units, Morgan Bernhart and his merry men.

>>52954471
Ruglud is so far removed from GW canon its ridiculous.

Orcs who learn, use battle tactics, win without forming a WAAAGH, and can actually read and write. Autist newfags would shit themselves to death over it.

>>52954471
GALLOPER GUNS!

Always meant to convert some of those up but never got around to it before 8th turned up and shat the games tactics up

>>52953955
Any source on them turning into anything other than vargheists and shit? I thought all the beastly degeneration was bat-themed.

I really like werewolves but only when they're hideously savage and undead

>>52954603
I don't think they turn into anything other than Degenerate Bat Monsters in the end(commonly known as Varghulfs), but I do think depending on a Carstein Vampires personal tendencies they may express more wolfish features when going berserk. And looking at the details, even Varghulfs and Vargheists have some Wolfish influences alongside the obvious Bat ones.

>>52954603
Ulrika: Bloodborn.

A Lahmian fucked a Strigoi. She gained the ability to turn into a wolf when she drank his/her blood during coitus.

In old continuity Neferata turns Lahmians into cats sometimes.

Those are the only indications. Technically Von Carsteins should be wolfy and Von Carsteins batty. VC specifically have Dire Wolves because of a connection to them, like Dracula. Strigoi are the ones with the giant bat monsters as kinfolk.

But GW couldn't make up its mind and gave little thought to the Bloodlines after 6e, so everything is Von Carstein.

>>52954824
I mean VC wolfy and Strigoi batty.

>>52954506
Ruglud is pretty cannon... He was created for the old 'Regiments of Renown' range in the mid 1980s... then (iirc) again slightly later and once more at some point in the late 90s.... I think the fluff was that he stumbled into a dwarvern (possibly Chaos dwarf) barrow with his Boyz and stripped the corpses of armour and weapons.

>>52954824
>>52954841
Yeah I getcha. This is good to know though because it means there's precedent to mix it up a little for my conversions. My army is mostly Blood Dragon, but still.

>>52954870
>>52954603
I think that there's mention somewhere that Von Carstein Dread Abyssals have monstrous wolf heads. It's not a transformation, but it continues the wolf theme.

>>52954841
>>52954824
the way I remembered it the Carsteins were based on Dracula, so batty but with inherent influence on wolves. Strigoi are the ones with inherent ties to Ghouls, I guess? Not all Vampires have Animal Familiars, like Blood Dragons.

>>52953510

genevieve is still a cutie.

>>52954449
dismounted Knights of the white wolf

>>52953158
Khorne, I imagine, due to being all about martial warfare... and running headfirst into danger, screaming gibberish. I don't remember the other powers ever using it on Daemons.

So I'm getting mixed Signals here, why is Asuryan called the Creator again? He didn't create the Elven Race, that was Isha.
Did he create Ulthuan?

>>52954866
Shit, you're right. I was thinking of Ugezod.

>>52954886
Strigoi alternate between anything feral, wolves, bats, and just the undead living mixes.

Whatever that particular writer isn't giving to VC is Strigoi.

>>52955178
Thanks to retcons, Asuryan didn't do jack shit except fuck up and create Dark Elves after Khaine trolled him but refused to do anything about it.

In old continuity he's Elf Zeus. Created Elves, rules over the other gods, notorious for not wanting to get involved in conflict between other gods but is supreme when he does.

Ulthuan was created by all the gods after the huntress killed the god of dragons. Its his corpse.

>>52951347
that looks fucking retarded

Like most MMOs, Age of Reckoning had issues where you'd hit the best looking sets midway through levelling and then end up stuck with some absurdly over the top shit once you're finished.

>>52955544
Did you ever actually play the game? It had a system where you could overlay the appearance of on armour onto another. Your enemies would see what you were wearing, but you and your allies would see the better set. You could also dye it.

>>52954449
When you say "Empire" are regiment of renown welcome ?

>>52953510
I've always thought it should vary based on how well the vampire takes care of itself. The type that likes to seduce and manipulate should probably look attractive if their human form was. Simply because they are likely going to be constantly drinking blood and paying attention. The type that sits around reading necromanic tomes all day like some obese neckbeard should be rotten as hell and make Orlock look handsome because they likely don't give a shit.

>>52954824
>But GW couldn't make up its mind and gave little thought to the Bloodlines after 6e, so everything is Von Carstein.

Pls don't remind me. They went from bloodlines are utterly defining to every vampire linage can shift their type depending on how they live to who knows because everyone is a Von Carstein.

Since we're talking about vampires: 8th ed AB mentions Sylvania being ruled by an elector count. No previous fluff supports the claim. I've seen mentions of Carstein boasting receivable claims to the imperial throne.

What's going on?
Sylvania has no runefang and is never mention as being an electoral province, where does this come from?

>>52955854
Sure, as long as it makes sense for them to fight for the Empire. There's a lot of limitations (can't make new models, for example) but I'm just getting a general idea for things that I could possibly work on.

>>52956618
Annexed into the Empire after Runefangs were handed out. Sylvania was never an electoral province on its own.

>>52956618
Isn't Sylvania officially considered as part of Stirland?

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>>52956618
Well, there are two Runefangs left over - Solland and Drakwald's. There was at least one time where the Drakwald runefang was given to the von Bilhofen's of Middenland, during the Age of Three Emperors, in return for their support.

If you want to ignore how inconsistent that bit of lore is, you might argue that it's part of a von Carstein claim for legitimacy, or maybe a human agent set up to smooth bureaucratic things over so the Vampires don't have to deal with it, and taxes are always on time.

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>>52957051
wish there was more runefang art

>>52953577

This is what I always liked to imagine as well and why I didn't care for the previous version of Vlad and Isabella that were stereotypical vampires.

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>>52951040
I only wish for witch elf to sit on my face.

>>52952976

Calm down, don't have a brain aneurysm.

What was the point of getting baited this hard?

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>>52957500
Better pic.

>>52957500
>>52957536

they look like apes in the trailer. dark elf is supposed to mean evil not nigger

>>52956618
Pretty sure Sylvania is considered officially to be a part of Stirland. But everyone and their mother realizes this is bullshit and the Vampires really rule there. On paper though I supposed they would be considered to be under the count of Stirland.

>>52957566
Where do they look like niggers?

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>>52957758

>>52957806
I don't see it, the nostrils aren't pronounced and the laps aren't fat enough.

>>52957806

Hol' up

>>52957806
Just looks vaguely crazy to me.

>>52957658
It might have phased in and out of provinceship.
The timeline is something like this:

0 IC - Sigmar founds the Empire. At this point the Empire does not include Sylvania or the Westerland
400-900 IC - The Drive to the Frontiers. The Fennones of Sylvania are conquered and the land becomes part of Stirland. Sigismund II conquers the Westerland.
??? IC - Sylvania gains its own electoral vote?
??? IC - Sylvania loses its electoral vote?
2010-2145 IC - The Vampire Wars

>>52957806

I like that she still finds time to get her lipstick on even on a busy day like that.

>>52957209

I believe they pretty much all look the same except for that little marking near the cross guard.

>>52956618

Well when the Dwarfs forged the 12 swords it was just one for each of Sigmars chieftains. Although every province is linked to one of the tribes there's nothing saying they have to be. They could have 20 states if they wanted to but not many are keen to give up land.

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>>52957500
>those Kit Rae-tier swords
This is why I could never get behind Dark Elves

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>>52954449
>>52954962

I second this and the other stuff in the storm of chaos supplement.

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>>52954449
what not bestonnia?

>>52958559
Does Bretonnia have any special regiments at all?

Just read about Aekold Helbrass in Liber Chaotica
Such a cool fuckin character. Anyone else like him?

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>>52958589
>Knight of the Realm (Silver Dragon Mount)

>>52958559
>>52958589
I mean, I'll take any suggestions, I was just working on Greenskin/Empire ones at the time.

>>52958449
I can try to do White Wolf knights, I love them, but I'm not sure if I have the parts to do them justice. I do have a nice plan of what to do after we get god-specific and elf armies as far as SoC goes.

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>>52958748

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>>52958778
>>52958589
empire and bretonnia seriously need doggo units but maybe mods for them already exist

>>52958778

Has anyone done Estalia justice yet? They need morions etc. but I don't know how far CA went.

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>>52950356
>Tzeench cultist
>still roided up but now wearing a beak mask

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>>52958778

Have you looked at the Forgeworld regiments?

You had the Nuln Ironsides and the Manann's Blades mercenary company from Marienburg.

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>>52950566
>>>one faction out of dozens

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>>52958931

> My feet hurt.

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>>52958846
The earliest promotional material had Empire troops in morions, which got changed during development. Not sure if they're still in the files.

>>52958841
Dogs are on the list. Certainly something should be possible between the warhounds, giant wolves, and dire wolves.

>>52958927
Ironsides for Nuln is possible, Manaan's Blades might be neat. The challenge is making units functionally distinct from one another because there's less stat/mechanics options than visual ones.

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>>52959035

Someone last thread posted some images of new Frostgrave orcs and dwarfs and they looked quite interesting.

Does anyone have them? There's no AWG up atm.

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>>52957806
>not pasty white and black eyed

REEEEE
REEEEE I SAY

>>52958023

Was probably smearing that red crap on her eyes and figured she'd use the last few drops on her lips

>>52958931
I don't even dislike those models but painting them bright ass yellow is so awful.

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>>52959200

Found them, they're being produced by North Star.

They look good until you get to the head...

>>52959228

> Implying it's not menstrual blood

>>52959282

TBQH I like how old-school and amachronistic they look

Their very lameness makes them cool

>>52959355

I kind of agree, if I was a 3rd edition Oldhammerer I would be very pleased.

But I was hoping for an alternative to the dated warrior box set.

>>52958748
Where'd you get the bit about the Silver Dragon from? I'd be surprised if a Knight of the Realm alone could get a Dragon. A Duke or Grail Knight seems more likely, and Bretonnia has a general history of dragon-slaying.

>>52958841
Bretonnia does have truffle hounds, and I've seen concept art for both factions of hunting dogs.

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>>52959700
>Where'd you get the bit about the Silver Dragon from?

it was just a total warhammer mod joke. although it would be cool and would be easy to explain that they are just carrying on the traditions/mimicking what they saw high elves do back in the day

>Knights of the Realm (Chocobo Mounts)

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>>52949951
>norsca should be annexed by kislev to make it more russiay

y/n?

>>52960083

If anyone in that relationship is going to get annexed it would be Kislev. The sick man of the Old World.

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>>52960122
say that to my face and not online and see what happens

the fact that norsca projects any power at all doesnt even make sense and is just typical chaos handwavium

>>52960083
Doesn't really make sense. Ignoring how Kislev keeps on having to get propped up by southern nations more and more, and how Norsca doesn't really have that big a draw to it (bit more Chaos-tainted than most non-Chaos Waste lands, not really developed, full of dangerous creatures), their army is primarily based around light cavalry and infantry. They don't really have the means to take, let alone hold, the mountainous and forested Norscan lands. Especially when they'd fight for just about every inch.

It'd be cool to get an Orc Waaagh up there though, shake things up a bit. Or to have some actual southern Norscan kingdoms, not just vaguely mentioned stuff in some lore.

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>>52960196
but youre basically just describing siberia and problems russia faces which is why it would fit

plus like i already said the power of norsca doesnt make sense so i dont think its fair to reference their lolasmanywarriorsasthestoryneeds and try to "realistically" compare it to kislev

plus it would give kislev the constant terrorist attacks from within that it has to deal with from worshippers of an evil religion

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>>52960083
No need to go that far, you can just add a bit of subtlety and cultural interchange.
Maybe the Baersonlings or the Sarl are influenced by their proximity to Kislev.

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>>52960083
>>52960297

to add onto this i present this for consideration

norsca just confuses people and would be better served being kislev clay. people mistake norsca for the chaos warriors but the "real" chaos warriors actually come from north of norsca and there is another sea separating the norsca and the real chaos lands. the people in norsca and smaller than the other real chaos warriors and the nobility and many warriors in kislev are directly descended from these "real" warriors aka they are tall manly badasses.

kislev is only weak because the plot demands it just like norsca is strong for the same reason. if kislev buttfucked every chaos army that tried to march south there wouldnt be much for the empire to do

plus it would have been an easy way to "advance" the setting since its sort of a bigish shift but at the same time only involves areas and factions no one gives a shit about

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>>52960167

First off, learn how to repeater and get on my level.

I don't know about that. The Roman Empire got it's shit trashed by barbarians more than once.

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>>52960297
But Sibera never had much of a population. Norsca has a significant enough population that most of it can go raiding, and almost all of them are trained warriors - ignoring 'as many elves as the plot demands,' it's obviously a different level than the hunters of Siberia. And that's assuming that Kislev is at its strongest and ready to push into Norsca.

>>52960574
I don't really see how Norsca confuses people - most people can at least vaguely tell the difference between Chaos Marauders and Chaos Warriors, even if they often fight alongside each other.

In fact, doesn't having Kislev controlling Norsca make things even worse in a way? Now they'll always take all of the brunt of a Chaos invasion, and there won't really be any Marauders left to raid the southern nations by sea.

>>52960574

Norsca is important because it's the incubator for chaos warriors. Very few people live any further north because it's obviously a total mess and unsuited to growing anything. Most Norscans aren't chaos warriors but most chaos warriors are Norscans.

Kislev has a good reason for being weak, it's a backwards land like Ostland and other provinces near it and it lies directly on the invasion route to the Empire.

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Lost book

If found, please return to the general public

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>>52960786
>most people can at least vaguely tell the difference between Chaos Marauders and Chaos Warriors

this is incorrect. no one but chaos fags knows or even cares about the difference

see >>52960830


no chaos warriors pretty much all come from the north. the norscans are no bodies and just get bullied by the real chaos warriors

the names you see around the north are the tribes of the actual chaos warriors. they are a different people and the nobles of kislev are descended from one of those tribes

>>52960886

In the Tome of Corruption it says many go on to be servants of the dark gods and chaos warriors.

>>52960868

Has anyone actually emailed FW about this? If it's been shelved indefinitely I'm sure the artists would share some of their work.

>>52958931

Were Brutes just a replacement for Big Uns?

>>52960886
Dude, I'm a Bretonniafag and I can tell the difference. If anything, Total Warhammer makes it easier on people since they're split up so.

Still doesn't really answer the question of how things are supposed to work if Kislev controls Norsca. Do the forces of Chaos just steamroll through them? Do they work their way around? Either way, you aren't getting raids from across the Sea of Claws anymore, and it actually amps up Chaos if they have to work so hard just to hit the Empire or Bretonnia.

>>52960991

At their price tag I hope not.

>>52961037

Oh I just had a check and they seem to essentially be "Black Orc Big Uns" for that faction.

Also yeah woah that price is pretty crazy.

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>>52961008
the post right the fuck after yours was someone who didnt understand the difference. it doesnt matter if you dont believe me, im just saying, practically no one understands the difference

chaos warriors never went though norsca anyway so who cares? and even if they did go through they would have to sail there first

kislev having norsca literally changes nothing for chaos warriors which is why i didnt bother mentioning it at first.

>>52961122

Please take your headcanon elsewhere.

There are numerous books that detail Norscans becoming chaos warriors. Pretty much every army book and all the RPG sourcebooks.

Stop being one of those autists who demands that every speck of dust be aligned to a state. The granularity is what makes this setting interesting. If you want a setting where the map is symmetrical for the sake of being so there are numerous other games out there.

Next it will be 'what's the point of Tilea and Estilea?', 'why don't we just merge Cathay and Nippon'.

>>52961196
anyone can become a chaos warrior, norsca isnt where 99% of chaos warriors come from. dont blame me youre a blithering retard

here ill link this to you since you seem to be stupid and full of yourself to do it

>http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Kurgan
>http://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Kurgan

>the Kurgans are by the far the most numerous of all the accursed peoples of Chaos, with numbers far outstripping those of even the bloodthirsty Norscans or the treacherous Hung.

these are the real chaos warriors and these is where they basically all come from

now go eat dick you dumb fucking nigger

The salt in this thread can only be the result of a secret /aosg/ heretic stiring trouble.

>>52961196
> We cant lose the diversity and uniqueness that Norsca brings to the setting of being the chaos wastes but 30 feet more south

>>52961258

> None of those statements have a reference to a source.

You know, reading the 8th edition army book doesn't make you an expert.

Norscans perhaps aren't the most numerous tribe but the rest of my statement still stands. Many Norscans pray to the chaos gods on go on to be warriors. The Kurgan are in no way qualified as being the 'true chaos warriors'.

>>52961370

Okay so Norsca becomes part of Kislev. What does this actually bring to the table? You can't have barbarians and civilised people operating in one state as it wouldn't make sense, the state relies on the application of the law to everyone.

So we basically have to destroy the Norsca and make it like Kislev. So now every chaos invasion does one of two things, it either gets defeated in a snowy region by the Kislevites, which would be pointless since that would exclude all the other factions, or it constantly destroys Kislev and reduces it to a condom for chaos for all eternity.

Meanwhile the few people who did care about Norsca have been pissed off.

>>52961362

I sometimes go on the AoS thread and there is an orchestrated baiting here.

>>52958748
>>52958783
By any chance does anyone know the name of the artist? I really like his style

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Found this site on a random search; doesn't seem official at all, but it might be fun to look at for anyone that prefers the old-lore Sun King Bretonnia to the current Arthurian Bretonnia.

http://malpy.free.fr/bretonnie/sourcebook.html

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>>52961566

It's Dave Gallagher.

>>52959373
There's always Avatar of war dwarves.

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>>52961616

>>52961569
>all this french

why is french such a shit language? is it the fact that 2/3 of letters in words are silent?

>>52961719
spot the britshit

>>52960955
Don't think so. I might myself if I can actually find more info on the people who worked on it specifically, rather than FW as a whole.

>>52961719

It's because it's spoke by Frenchmen.

>>52962362

I would be inclined to think Talima Fox was involved given her penchant for all things Fantasy.

What did (do? are there any left?) living Nehekarans look like? Like I know they're obviously NotEgyptian, but I mean skintone wise. Are they Hollywood lily-white Egyptians? Are they more reasonably accurate tan/brown/Middle Eastern looking? Or are they black WE WUZ TOMB KANGZ?

>>52961587
Cheers!

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>>52962520

>>52961719
>The poor half of africa speak a perfect french
>You can't

Tells more something about you desu famalam

>>52962733
Grayscale doesn't much help for skintone.

>>52955988
That was kinda of canon in Oldhammer. Lamia vampires would always be pretty and taking good care of their looks because they're always socializing and making use of their contact and influence over humans, meanwhile Necrarch all look withered and almost mummy-like, simply because they don't give a damn about their own aspect and most don't have such an easy access to blood as the Lamias have.

Don't know about Blood Dragons and Von Carsteins, guess for those is up to every individual. Strigoi are basically beasts, so they're on the same boat as the Necrarchs.

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>>52962759
Tanned Caucasians.

>>52962781
Von Carsteins should fall into the first category, but they will drop off the disguise if need be, it's also the most varied bloodline so there's leeway for variation

I don't see the Blood Dragons giving a single fuck about looks

>>52962781
The looks depend on access to blood and exposure to dark magic.

Lahmians hang around people and suck s the time. As do Carsteins

Necrach just hang in the woods perfecting the use of necromantic spells and experimenting so don't get much blood.

Strigoi have to hide in graveyards and out of the way places or other vamps kill them do end up a bit... Funny.


Blood Dragons vary, though mostly stay fairly human looking.

>>52958931
They don't actually have much armour.
Like, less than a Black Orc.

>>52956618
According to lore, Sylvania was once an Empire Province under the rule of Count von Drak, but was destroyed and absorbed by Stirland after the Vampire Wars in roughly 2010 IC

The runefangs were made in 100 IC, but at the time, Sylvania was not yet under Empire domain, since it was conquered around 300-479 IC, probably by the predecessor of Emepror Sigismund II
So here's why Sylvania has no Runefang, much like the Westerland didn't when it was part of the Empire, before seceding and becoming the Wasteland and Marienburg

Now, Vlad von Carstein has claim to the title of the Emperor because on his deathbed Otto von Drak, last of his line, was convinced to marry his daughter Isabella to him, making him the next in line for the title of Elector Count, which Vlad eventually became.
Vlad, being an elector count, had claim to the title of Emperor as much as all other counts, but since Sylvania seemed much better controlled that other provinces, he thought to himself "why stop to a single province"

Thus began the vampire wars after decades of preparations, simply because Vlad was since the beginning an ambitious dick and knew that he'd never be elected emperor the traditional way

>>52958931

Am i the only one who thinks the new orc models are the ugliest so far?

They look like a bunch of retarded children in safety harness

>>52963316
>I don't see the Blood Dragons giving a single fuck about looks

The big thing I can see with them is they are constantly battling powerful foes and drinking blood. So there is likely a few of them that look relatively healthy even if they likely don't care. They rarely use magic either.

I'd say on average on order of how inhuman they look it would go something like Necrarch>Strigoi>Von Carsteins=blood dragon>Lahmia but changes depending on lifestyle of the individual. So a Lahmian who decided to live like a Necrach would very quickly start looking like a rotten hag.

>>52963481
>The looks depend on access to blood and exposure to dark magic.

It also I"m pretty sure depends on how skillful they are with dark magic. Someone with lesser skill is likely going to get more side effects and warping from the magic then those with greater levels. Just because they won't be as exposed.

>>52963616
>Vlad was since the beginning an ambitious dick

Vlad is best boy forever. All the counts afterwards were a massive step down.

>>52963678
Vlad would have been way better if he actually tried to take the moral high ground and unify the Empire by diplomacy rather than force.

>>52963860
That would have been close to impossible given he is a vampire. There is no way in hell that would slip by and not lead to a war.

>>52963891
The one ending up becoming Emperor did it by saving the Empire and without any legitimate claim. And honestly Sylvania under Vlad was probably better for his subjects than Talabecland was. Vlad fucked up by attacking first, he should have known better.

>>52958148
That spiral is the master rune of Alarick the mad, the dwarf that made them. It's a 50 point rune that makes you ignore armor-saves.

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>>52950028

These guys got cloth for the most parts. A few plated leg parts and shoulder pads but thats it.
Personally thought Id use these for my mordheim. Get dwarf heads from a third party, remove backpacks and skip the armor parts, they would look rock solid I think.

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>>52963860
>Playing TWW as Vlad
>Stay friendly with the Empire
>Expand by occupying ruins and Kislev
>Fortify everything
>When Chaos comes, it avoids me and smashes the Empire
>When the Empire are desperate, make them my vassals
>Swoop in and save them from Chaos

It's not technically a win, but I'm claiming a moral victory. I figure they elected Vlad as Emperor as a last resort.

>>52957051
I think it depends on what time period you're looking at...

Sylvania was part of the Empire when ruled by VonDrakk.

After VonDrakk's death, Vlad took over and waged war on the Empire, till he fell off a wall and died. Cue Vampiric infighting till they were all dead.

At this point it got absorbed back into the empire again, though it was largely shunned because stuff tended not to stay dead.

Manfred then rises from the dead and gets involved in that Chaos invasion bullshit that GW retconned. It's probably safe to say that the Empire weren't daft enough to consider themselves controlling the area at this point...

Then we have the End Times... which I didn't read, but seems to have involved a lot more of the dead VonC's coming back to life and the world exploding.

>>52960675
The roman empire had many borders to guard, spreading their armed forces thin and a plethora of increasingly powerful confederates and empires as neighbors. Compare that to Kislev which has a safe border to the south and a bufferzon to its north (Troll County). Add to that the fact that Kislev is primarily, as I understand it, made up of harsh steppeland which provides ample opportunity to waste an invading force by attrition and hit-and-run-tactics. The Roman Empire on its hand had important territory just inside the border on multiple fronts (Gaul, Italy and Syria) which necessitated a much more decisive response.
That being said, one should never underestimate the military capacity of barbarians.

>>52962781
Strigoi and Necrarchs are technically on different levels, because Necrarchs can actualy make use of dark magic to sustain themselves, so they need little to no blood. On the other hand, Strigoi still need blood - they just get it from the worst of sources, such as animals, recently dead corpses, and at best ghouls. A normal human would probably be a treat for them.

Kind of makes me wonder if someone ever locked up a Strigoi and fed him plenty of normal humans, to see if his form could somehow revert or he could regain more than just a bestial intelligence.

WTS Gamesday 2011 Skaven Warlord

>muh phoenix kung birthright
Malekith has no right to anything, it is the Asur's right to choose their own King. No elf becomes King just because their father was.

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>>52968015
all true but since technically no one passed through the fires all those phoenix kings were false too

finubar seems like a cool dude though

>>52968097
>but since technically no one passed through the fires
worst retcon, an audacity and insult.

It made sense for Malekith to be rejected since he just slaughtered the councillors.

It makes no sense for Asuryan to reject the elected Phoenix Kings afterwards.

>>52968097
He is the coolest dude after Caradryel and Aenarion.

>>52968146
He didn't reject them, they just never were going to actually recieve his blessing because none had the balls to actually go through the flame.

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>someone has been updating the warhammer wiki with skubtimes shit

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>>52968146
>>52968206
yeah they all used magic to get through. technically some of them could have been allowed through the flames but none tried

Why is Warhammer Total War so popular around here? It's just a video game, and from gameplay i've seen, its pretty medicore.

>>52968491
Because it's a good game after all, and it's a warhammer fantasy strategy game

What are the dimensions for the river terrain peice for table top? Building all my own terrain because buying if I buy a building model from GW I might as well be buying a real one.

But for the question at hand: Do they have rivers going across the table? Or is it just a small piece just to represent?

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>>52968491
because warhammer fantasy is one of the best fantasy settings and its the best total war since shogun II

its also warhammer fantasy in the hands of someone other than gw which makes a lot of people happy

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>>52968491
> sheer content amount is equal to several historical TW titles combined
> runs better and is more fun than Attila and R2
> WHFB setting untainted by End Times and beyond
> actually managed to introduce a lot of people to the otherwise-dead WHFB world along with Vermintide
It's also fun

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>>52958913

They give a perfectly fitting reason for it.

>>52960955

Some or all of what Adrian Smith did is out there.

Old "cartoony" dwarves looked way better, honestly. Now they just look like shorter humans who are a bit wider and have beards.

>>52968932
>>52968943
>>52968964
>>52968982
Were these you're posting specifically for Black Fire Pass? Some look like they could have been named characters like the ones in Throne of Chaos.

>>52968259
That seems strange, especially since Magnus the Pious made his way through the flame in Middenheim. Why are humans technically braver than elves?

>>52968491
I personally find it fun, even if half the time I'm skipping the larger battles just because I don't want to deal with chariot spam. And it kind of allows me to think about factions in ways that normally I wouldn't - I didn't care for Nordland before, but now playing as Bretonnia I like to think of them as my northern bros to help me hold the coast against Skaelings. Getting a rare chance to actually fight alongside an AI ally is amazing, and watching knights charge and cannons fire is awe-inspiring.

>>52968999

I'm pretty sure they were since I own both Throne of Chaos and Monstrous Arcanum and none of these pictures is in either. Not to mention there are no Orcs in Throne of Chaos and Nuln was the only part of the Empire which participated.

>>52969033
they thought something was wrong with the fire after it turned mommies boy into burnt bacon, its not that they didnt think themselves pure or deserving or whatever

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>>52969116
Sounds like they weren't...
*dons monocle*
Pious enough
>yeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaah

>>52968879
And I thought wh40k would overdo it with skulls.

>>52969116
it's retcon skub, there wasn't any debate about it until GW wanted to retcon Malekith onto the throne.

In my book they passed the flame and became avatars of Asuryan just as Wood Elves became Avatars of Kurnous.

anything else is bullshit, you can't just roll up decades of established canon because it doesn't suit your new narrative.

>>52969614
to be fair it's just extrapolated from historical examples though.

>>52969674
uh are you sure? i thought they have always used magic

also
>wanting high elves to be ruled by a nonelf the same way wood elves have a literal beatman as their king

thats some shit headcanon you have there

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>>52969879
Orion isn't a beastman, he's the avatar of Kurnous. Some concept art had him more tree-like in the winter.

The avatar of a deity doesn't have to change their shape or form - like how the Everqueen is the avatar of Isha, but doesn't change her shape. Or how Valten was something of an avatar of Sigmar, but didn't change himself.

It bothers me that half the races have their leaders literally chosen by their gods, but the avatar part itself isn't a problem.

>>52970006
>It bothers me that half the races have their leaders literally chosen by their gods, but the avatar part itself isn't a problem.
Well, when the gods lend you tangible powers (or sometimes wreck your shit) you tend to take "divine right" seriously.

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>>52970006
>beastmen arent beastmen, they are avatars of chaos

someone needs to shoop pic related to be wood elves hating beastmen and krunous

>>52970083
And that's why after the storm of chaos was over the Emperor had Valten killed for a hefty sum of warpstone

>>52970158
Wow wow man why would you talk about my boy Karl like that, he dindu nuffin he needed mo Ghal Maraz for dem programs

>>52970158
Rumors say Leitdorf's closest advisor did this

Now seriously speaking, for the sake of WFRP consider the Storm of Chaos to be canon, and that you need to continue the story after that event

What would happen to Archaon after being bitchslapped the way he was at Middenheim?
He isn't the first everchosen to fail in his quest of world destruction, but he's the first to survive the attempt. Would the Chaos Gods take back their blessings in disappointment, whould he be forced to do that shit of the everchosen from the beginning, would other chaos champions start to challenge him to take his title?

>>52970150
Come on, you know there's a difference there. It'd be like saying Lizardmen are the same as Beastmen.

>>52970236
The gods would take back their demons but not necessarily his blessings, however other chaos lords will challenge him. Archaon himself is left stranded in the middle mountains with beastmen and empire-based cultists as only reinforcements.

>>52970236
I think it'd be cool if he had to reprove himself - he can't do the trials all over again, but he can defeat a champion of each of the four Chaos gods (as well as other challengers who will fight him for their own sake along the way), and defeat a prominent leader of each of the factions that he lost to - namely the Orcs and the Empire, but you can probably stretch to say Bretonnia and the Dwarves, though I don't remember how involved they were.

If you want something a little cooler than that, maybe he has to lead a force to extinguish the flame instead of the temple of Ulric, casting down a god in order to regain his favor in the eyes of the Chaos gods. No special powers, some or all of his artifacts missing - having to do it by sheer skill and strategy, in a scenario where he could easily die and where his own troops could betray him if he can't keep them in line by sheer force of will.

>>52970318
Why would Archaon be stranded on the middel mountains? I reckon that despite the infighting it would take him nothing to just take that demonic horse of his and run back north with the others.

>>52970408
Isn't most of his remaining forces in the middle mountains ?

>>52970236
I always thought that after such a terrible failure,most chaos champions and forces would disband or attack him, not willing to follow his lead anymore. He'd probably just let himself be killed, or otherwise seen as a gigantinc fucking failure by both men and gods.

Losing as the everchosen is literally like walking into a zoo with a shotgun and drop it into the crocodile pit

I like the idea that he stills retain som of his powers and relics but none of his followers, and the gods start looking for a successor, and eventually there are Two Everchosen and shit really goes down in the chaos wastes

>>52963142

No, Egyptians.

> INB4 Kangz

>>52962749
Says a lot about French.

>>52968868
>>52968879
>>52968888
>>52968899

Thanks. Great as always from Smith. It's a shame FW didn't manage to get it released as a final swan song for Fantasy.
>>52968909
>>52968922
>>52968932
>>52968943
>>52968956
>>52968964
>>52968972
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>>52971288
Well technically it says a lot about the French approach to colonialism compared to, say, the English - they believed integration of the natives was possible, but essentially only if they learned certain parts of French culture and fluent French - which also meant that they sent guys from France to run their colonies directly, with little natives getting into it. The English didn't think it was possible and just set up certain chieftains as intermediary rungs of their government. Then a guy from some French territory in the Caribbean whose name I can't remember basically wrote that that was all bunk and the French wouldn't really accept anyone different, not long before they started dropping colonies.

It'd be an interesting thing to work into Bretonnia - that they demand an almost completely uniform culture. You already see hints of this with how overall Bretonnia doesn't have the same variety as the Empire, and if they ever had colonies they'd probably copy and paste the Bretonnian system onto wherever they ruled rather than adapting.

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>>52971382
>implying fantasy isnt in a better place than ever before in CAs hands and forever out of reach of retarded GW plot advances

>>52958783
Tfw you will never gain the notice of the three sisters of Ancelioux while on your errant quest...

>>52962733
Shame we never got still living Khemri kings.

>>52971496

> Goes on GW website.
> Massive page for DoWIII.
> They have their own page set up to buy models in the game.
> TW:W sold over a million copies...
> Got nothing...
> Not even a MTO Bretonnia weekend.

GW really does hate us don't they? I mean, I thought running Fantasy into a ditch was incompetence but I'm starting to believe they have a personal vendetta.

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>>52971631
yes. all the original people have left gw and i guess they see it as a relic of the past or just something that didnt really belong to them

its also egg on GWs face if they acknowledge the success of fantasy in any way and they also probably see it as direct competition for smegma

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How do people recommend I run my spear Elves?

I have 40 high elf spearmen, I know elves attack in 4 ranks with spears but is it advisable to run them in horse at T3 5+?

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>>52971631
>>52971496
>>52971704

on the flip side and going back to my original post
>gw involved with dowII
>its shit
>gw not invloved with total warhammer
>its amazing

the fact that gw doesnt care about fantasy is a blessing

>>52971729

horde*

>>52971742
I play dark elves, so I only get three ranks, but other than that our troops are very similar.

Spear elves are not being taken for their attacks. They are blocks to grant rank bonuses and to support your heavy hitters. A block of 20-30 spears supporting 10-12 white lions or swordmasters is far better than 40-50 spear elves attacking on their own. The wide front of a horde also means you have a lot less options for dictating engagements, and your opponent can hit you with a more elite unit or two when they are ready to fight the giant wall of spears. I learned that lesson the hard way against all manner of chaos warriors, saurus, and elite elves.

If you split the units into two you can also have them support each other. A single horde cant wrap around a unit and its frontage is wasted. If your spears are broken into 2 units of 20, you can threaten flanks and might even get a supporting flank charge off, giving you more attacks against a single unit than a horde.

>>52971856

Cheers for the advice, I did think they were a bit squishy to be running horde.

I only took 40 to make up my core for a 2500 list, the rest is 2x5 reavers and archers.

>All old painting guides for dwarfs are in old Citadel colors and not new ones


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this is more of a historical question but ill ask it anyway

is this how the royal system for land works?

>kingdom ruled by kings>country ruled by counts>barony ruled by barons>dukedoms ruled by dukes

also is there historical precedence for multiple kingdoms being nested inside one over-kingdom? seems to happen a lot in fantasy. would it be a problem for each kingdom having its own king who then answers to the one high king?

>>52949951
Do newly turned Strigoi degenerate into Ghoul Kings no matter what?

Was thinking of playing one soon

>>52960991
They are ogre size.

>>52972882
What's the difference between a minor king and a powerful lord?

Are there any novels with Necromancer PoV or MC?

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>>52973008
the name

if you have kingdoms within your over-kingdom that means you get more kings, princes, and princesses in your realm which makes it more CHIVALROUS

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>>52973068
>more princesses

this being the important party by the way

>>52972882
In real world history, it depends on where you are - in some places a baron is a minor noble, in others it's pretty high up the chain.

>>52970236
I'd say he'd have a lot of issues very quickly. On the other hand it wouldn't be the end of him by any means as long as he is able to show he still is just as strong as they remember.

>>52972016
Yeah, elves are just a big target in a horde, at least for core troops. They are more expensive than fodder hordes like skaven or goblins, and die too easily to elite hordes. Best to keep their size manageable so your opponent has to prioritize more targets.

One thing to remember is that you lose the staying power of a single large unit. You will be taking more leadership tests from missile fire or lost units than if you had a single large one. A unit of 40 in 6 ranks of 6 (and one of 4) is as durable as a horde, but still more maneuverable because of the smaller frontage. If you find yourself facing ranged or elite heavy armies, this may also be a good configuration.

>>52971382

Blame the people too busy complaining about monsters and not enough time buying.

>>52971631

It wasn't massive, but GW did advertise nine models to coincide with the release of Total Warhammer.

They probably didn't do more because Fantasy was dead at that point and 40k is much more popular, especially among the video game crowd. They're probably selling more than nine because because outside of relatively decent sized or character models, Fantasy models were made to rank up and probably look like shit as one off collector's pieces. Eighth Edition is around the corner, so that might be part of it too.

>>52971704

Oh knock it off with the victim complex shit. There are still people at GW who worked on Fantasy and who likely have fond memories of it, but outside of when a game releases they're not going to drone on about a game that they no longer support.

Alternatively continue, it's kind of hilarious seeing people write shit like the removal of square bases being some kind of conspiracy to purposefully mock Fantasy fans. To see you smear with shit something you supposedly love by being obnoxious about it.

>>52971738

How exactly was GW involved enough with DoW3 to effect its quality? The shit they were involved with as far as it goes was probably the same as Total Warhammer in that they probably answered questions about the lore and did some advertising via Black Library, WD, and posters and handouts within their stores.

>>52975269
>mad that even gw makes fun of what a failure smegma is and is busy falling all over itself to reassure fans the new 40k isnt going to be anything like skub times

>>52975561
>gw makes fun of what a failure smegma
???
??
?

>>52976278
They pretty much did when they put out that 8th ed FAQ for 40k telling us to trust them and how this is the new GW.


And if AoS was so great why didn't they make all this cool stuff on the sight for TW:WH when it came out like they did DOWIII?

>>52971631
in the total war launcher there used to be a "you've played the game now buy the models" kind of link
it led to a pretty much blank store page on GW's website, the screenshot I made is on my other drive though
Like a spit in the face

is 9th age pretty cool? also how does one get into warhammer. it feels like such a massive undertaking. big fan of beastmen in total war: warhammer but I know they're bottom of the bottom tier in 8th edition. I'm also a fan of the dwarves because I like to play really lame and force you to come to me.

>>52976363
>They pretty much did when they put out that 8th ed FAQ for 40k

No they didn't.
If they were trying to make fun of AoS they wouldn't be essentially copying its rules for 40k.
They mostly just dispelled rumours that they were going to blow up the setting.

>>52977408
Hence making fun of AoS.

Thanks for proving my point. The setting change was a mistake.

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Is the Warhammer world beautiful?

>>52978312
Yes.

>>52978312
I hear the chaos wastes are pretty this time of year.

>>52969879
the avatars of Elven gods aren't Nonelfs.

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The world is not fit for man or beast, Valten. It must burn.

>>52979036
Technically they could be kind of like nonelves? But they aren't beastmen.

It's like saying the avatars of the Chaos Gods - daemons - are beastmen just because cow heads or goat hooves or bird wings. They aren't, they're their own unique Chaos-made-material thing. Other gods are probably the same way, but it's hard to be sure of that.

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>>52949951
Hello, it's the anon that's been posting an equipment homebrew in every thread for a while. This time, I made a homebrew to fill in the gaps left in Tome of Salvation, which is to say, give unique "What will you Sacrifice for this Boon" and marks for Gunndred, Handrich, Khaine, Ursun, Dazh and Tor. Unfortunately, I'm stuck at what some of the marks should be.

>>52979071
they are more than elf, but not something else.

Orion more than the PK though.

i don't get why people prioritize 8ed and End Times over long established lore, in every armybook I ever owned the Phoenix Kings were described as avatars of asuryan after passing through the flame, and that was that, there was no question about their legitimacy until GW chose to turn the entire Elven Lore on it's head, and I don't see how 8ed or End Times overwrites lore that was firmly established by 6ed just because corporate suits want to push an agenda.

Does anyone know the following
1) what part of the timeline did Dramar Hammerfist exist in
2) what year did the Dwarfs invent/adopt rifles

I'm under the impression that Dramar was long-dead when rifles were invented, but I'm not sure.

>>52979157
I'm not sure but I think they adapted rifles and cannons shortly before Signar was born.

>>52950808
War toddlers are best toddlers, azumgi.

>>52964343
That's one of the few things I liked about the End Times books, is Vlad's "I've worked too hard for this shit to see for it fall to Chaos" mentality.

>>52979057
Valten should have Plus Ultra'd Archaon into Morrsleib.

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>>52979575

>>52971277
Most Egyptians fall under Caucasoid phenotype so tanned Caucasian *is* serviceable. If pressed I would say semetic though. The issue with saying just Egyptian is that Egypt was an empire that has had multiple migrations and was composed of 2 distinct kingdom; caveat: The population migration were probably not significant to the overall demographics as Egypt has always been a very large population center however it could create notable differences in regions or segments of society like the royalty/elites being related to the greeks (which was probably the smallest migration but it replaced the monarchy and formed a new Hellenized aristocracy)

>>52979647
>>52971277
Semites are caucasians.

>>52979525

That's honestly one the reasons I like the vampire counts so much. They are villainous as all hell but they are also very static and anti-chaos by nature. Since they want to rule the world in an eternal night. Not let chaos eat the thing.

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I have a great tale from our latest campaign, here is the set up of the story.

>Playing WHFB RP 2ED
>Got a Zealot, 'Wizard", Militia Man, and a Soldier with a handgun(AKA Gun on wheels), and an Elf Noble
>Start campaign as mercs, pic related is our captain
>Some empire castle rebelled, then got sieged by beastmen
>Empire told us they are traitors so we can steal whatever we want as long as we get in the castle
>Our job is to find a way in
>Go on scouting party to the castle, see nothing new
>Idiot zealot finds talisman in some destroyed shack
>Keeps it
>See jester dancing on castle walls
>Doesn't mention it to anyone
>On way back to camp group gets attacked by Ungors
>OhGod.jpg
>Wizard nerd(Who won't cast spells cause he is scared of being called a witch) gets crited, almost die, zealot gets a spear through his arm.
>Empire gun fag sits back and shoots
>Kills almost all the ungors himself
>Elf noble goes on scouting mission, nothing much happens

>Day 2
>Militia man, Gun Fag, and the Elf go out to hunt beastmen
>Find Bestigor
>Oh Fuck
>2/3 of them get crited to death, have to use fate points
>Gun Fag only didn't die because GM didn't want half the party to die from one guy and the bestigor was super close to dying
>Limp back to camp
>Heal up
>Gun Fag and the Militia man start praying to Morr(Bad idea)

>Day 3
>Most of party healing up and exploring camp after the slaughters of the last sessions
>Deamons decend on the camp, searching for the idiots that prayed to Morr
>Almost get taken untill Gun Fag begs to Sigmar, and the Militia guy convinces Morr to be merciful
>Zealot starts asking around camp about the talisman
>Captain says it's a "Northerner reliq"
>WhatCouldThatMean (The zealot didn't figure it out)
>Zealot takes watch duty
>Sees Jester off in the distance

Cont.

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>>52980236

>Day 4
>Blacksmith gets shot in the middle of the night
>Party with the captain discovers a secret entrance
>Leads into mines
>Inside locate the small group who lives there
>We were meaning to visit them soon
>Tell us they can't get us into the castle even though there is a door connecting them to it
>Tell us rumors of a "Beast" rat roaming around
>Zealot starts hearing music again
>Follow it
>Leads him to a room with the lore of the mines
>It's a dwarf hold that once defeated chaos, then *something* horrible killed them all
>Lines end in "It's coming", "It's coming", over and over again
>Party discovers skaven created some sore of mechanical creature
>OhFug
>Run
>Report it to the captain
>Captain says "Why haven't you killed the rat yet?"
>We go back there to find the rat
>Music leads the Zealot towards the rat
>Rat fires
>Jester appears and pushes the Zealot out of the way
>Crit cities the Militia man behind him
>Uses fate point
>Gun Fag shoots rat
>The zealot rushes the weakened rat afterwords and murders him
>Seal off the bottom mines as the rat carcass grows

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>>52980246

>Day 5
>Zaelot gets memed on today
>Wakes up in royal clothes
>Takes them off
>He doesn't realize everyone else thinks they are on
>At the bar, the Militia man gets into a verbal fight with him
>Zealot walks out like a pussy
>Later
>Zaelot puches the Militia man out of the way to get in the bar again
>YouWhatMate
>Militia man grabs him and decks him in the face
>Knocks him out
>He instantly rises and starts walking to the mines
>He is concious and has no control
>Wearing talisman
>Gets taken to a chamber in the mines
>Mine-cult's leader asks him if he is ready
>DM answers for the player "yes"
>Sacrifice cult memeber who was the original talisman holder, but lost it
>He is just robes, nothing else
>Zealot won't save the world later because he is afraid of ending up like that
>Zealot doesn't fight back
>Lets ritual go on
>Eventually is back at the tavern
>Gets control back
>Starts drinking
>Best beer he can buy
>Knocks himself out from drinking too much
>Dm audibly curses
>"You get back up again"
>Zealot stands in the farming field for a while
>Goes back to tavern
>Gets control back again
>Captain wants a party to see what the Not!Chaos Cult is up to in the mines
>Zealot goes before everyone else
>Desperatley trys to find the sacrifice room
>Stone where the entrance was
>Meets up with rest of the party
>Enters rat lair again

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>>52980252

>Music plays
>Zealot loses control and grabs some device
>Party leaves mines
>Zealot stays behind to get answers from the cult
>They start the sacrifice
>OH no
>Zealot watches scrifices happen
>He is dedicated to sigmar to fight chaos
>But he let's this happen
>No on is possesing him right now
>Dooesn't try to stop them
>Sacrifice ends
>It's a Tzeentch cult
>Lord of change downstairs
>Has super dagger that could probably kill it
>"I walk back to the camp"
>DM asks "Really?"
>"Yes"
>Zealot is now almost officially possesed by Tzeentch
>Chaos memes lmao
>Kills local Ulric priest by looking at him, his presence puts out Ulrics fire in the church
>Jester posses the barder surgeon
>They run off together
>A newly arrived Witch Hunter and Gun Fag ride off on a carriage to stop them
>All the other members of the camp begin to mutate as a new End Times happens
>Wizard grows a chaos star as soon as the Zealot walks by him
>He rolls a 77 and gets a diseas from Nurgle, instantly dies, let it be known he only casted one spell over 5 sessions
>Rest of the party surivors flee for an Empire town further north, through beastmen teriroty
That's right! There are still Beastmen here! If you forgot I don't blame you, I did too just during writing this
>Empire castle has the Zezlot, the Possesed barber surgeon, the Witch Hunter, and the Gun Fag on it
>It starts floating like pic related
>Session ends
DM keeps saying this is either about to become a Chaos campaign or going to go back to an Empire campaign

And that is how I ruined a campaign(I was the zealot)

>>52977408
>Why should i trust you ?
>Come on ! This is New Games Workshop TM
Definitively taking the piss

>>52980264
Nice snowflake projecting

>>52979525
i'd have loved is Vlad had been written as a real aristocrat of the night, tending to his peasant cattle as a nice garden, getting rid of the ugly and inbred and making sure they were okay by holding tightly the other vampires on leash, with an end goal extremely far because he's fucking pretty old himself and thus know the power of time.

>>52980264
>GM not letting it end in glorious pvp campaign
>GM obviously favoring you
>Possessed by a daemon getting mutations around him as if he was LoC himself

could be better but otherwise fun to read

>>52980264
Gun fag and militia dude seem like the best part of the game

What did the elf do?

>>52950356
What the fuck are bracers going to do if the rest of your body is fucking exposed. At least they wear helmets.

>>52977569
>Hence making fun of AoS.

That's not making fun of AoS though.
That's just saying 40k won't be blowing up.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B78tEyor-_2DdU9TLTVUaW5VMjg

Collection of free stuff from some Polish anon.

There is much polish stuff, but also official BL support PDF's and old english fanmade stuff, like fan 1st. ed. RPG supplement for Bretonia.

As Poland is getting it's the rest of 2nd ed. WHFRP line, that FFGotts refused to sell to Polish editor, translated and printed right now (inluding Thousand Thrones) I hope it makes any of you half that rad as we are there.

>>52979157
The first time dwarves implemented cannons was immediately after the skaven collapsed skavenblight by accident and caused earthquakes everywhere.
Guns are apparently a much more recent invention

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>>52961638
Fuck you, the Avatars of War's dwarfs are the bees knees, and so are their Nurgle Warriors!

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>>52981110
Hear, hear