Warhammer 40,000 general /40kg/

First for the Dark Ciry

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Orks charge, orks strike first!.

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*select 8 enemy unit within 48", roll 6d6 automatic hit on each*

New flamers are noice

>>52932750
>the unit they charged falls back and then the orks get shat on by wyverns.

>>52932750
>Orks are a melee race!
>Movement: 5"

>>52932769
Probably early July to coincide with school kids starting their holidays

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>>52932750
>Melee race
>100 boyz strike first

>>52932793
ahahaha nobs would be move 4 and manz move 3

>>52932798
its next week preorder faggot.

>>52932785
I being a lying sack of shit fun? Or is it just your fetish?

>>52932798
AoS was august
July is the usual new edition month
June is new financial year

so any of these three months are strong contenders

my money is on june because warhammer community is doing daily posts about 8th edition until the new release, and there's only 12 pages of core rules

>>>52932729

Just a lore thing but I do collect HH Word Bearers,

>>52932793
>Movement 4

>>52932787
This. They managed to make melee even worse now.

>>52932800
Just 30 boys, but still 120 attacks.

>Painting my sisters of battle
>for some odd reason I thought the Order of our Martyred Lady painted their veterans' shoulder pad Inquisition markings gold
>they're actually all white
Well fuch

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>>52932851

>>52932871
Make up a reason ur dudes a gold

>>52932863
>wipe out some Wraithguard
>get deleted by scatlasers next turn
Such buff, so viable, wow

>>52932863
they probably get extra bonuses for every ten boys in the unit, like in AoS

>>52932863
>WS: 4+
>Strength 3
>"Orks are slow and clumsy creatures, and do not gain the bonus for striking first if they charge."

>>52932903
+1 S to HoW for every 10.
Stompy.

>>52932793
>what is 'ere we go

>>52932882
>i am mad for some reason: The post

>>52932882
>I just HAVE to use this image over and over, it's too clever not to.

>>52932882
>being concerned about a game you play is badwrong pls leave

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Anyone else excited about narritive play?

I don't play AoS but, I'm hoping for decent campaign rules to get an ongoing campaign amongst the factions at the FLGS

>>52932972
>>52932989
>>52933010
Mmm all these (you)'s, and each a minute apart.

How convenient.

>>52933032
I've formed narrative games out of modifying missions such as one from the battle missions stuff and overlaying a basic campaign structure that I think I borrowed from the 5th edition rulebook. I hope they put some effort into narrative play.

>>52933032
>Anyone else excited about narritive play?

Yeah. I'm not so much interested in historical refights and things, but campaign rules and extra scenarios will be very much appreciated.

I went with SC! Mechanicus, did I fuck up?

I'm assuming 8ed is in June. GW doesn't hype things up too far in advance and they won't release Nurgle boys before 8th drops so May is looking quite empty (Shardspire maybe?)

>>52933091
nop

>>52933108
They're releasing Kharadrons all throughout may. for 40k you're right though.

>>52933108
Saw a rumor for June 17th. And preorders on June 8th.

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>>52933123
faeit leaked the release date as june 4 for preorder and june 17 for actual starter

>>52933161
I'd believe it

>>52933123
Ah, I thought they only had 1 or 2 more weeks left. Still, June sounds like the right time.

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>>52933054
Here's another one.

>>52933010

It's only badwrong if the logic that leads to you being concerned is shit.

Which it is. Being able to walk out of combat is massive for melee units as it effectively removes tarpitting from the game. Never again will a conscript blob tie up your expensive melee units for the entire game.

>>52933202
>Phoneposting

>>52932825
>June is new financial year
What? That's April.

>>52933108

June is a good guess but it could very well being may, also. GW generally likes to make big releases shortly before the end of the fiscal year to make their shareholder reports look better.

>>52933225
Every company picks its own financial year, it just has to do with when their accounting department reconciles/closes their books

>>52933217
>Never again will a conscript blob tie up your expensive melee units for the entire game.

It also stops you hiding in close combat from enemy shooting. Six and half a dozen.

That said, making any claims about how the game is going to play at this stage is asinine. We're looking at a complete ground-up rework in the vein of the 2nd/3rd edition revamp, so trying to predict what will and won't be balanced is impossible. We just don't know enough.

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>>52933218

>>52932825
Well, 7th was announced on the 10th of May, preorders were up on the 17th, and it released on the 24th. I wouldn't be surprised if they did something similar this time.

>>52933280
But 8th was announced last week. Meaning it should be up for pre-order already if that was the case

>>52933294
Sorry I missed that post up, I meant to talk about a May release.

>>52933161
Tosin Abasi mah nigga. Good taste

>>52933277
will you still be able to retreat if there's no room to move? say you manage to completely surround an enemy unit

>just bought 1000 points of DEldar
>can't assemble them in case they change the special weapons numbers again, like the old trueborn squad size

What are the odds Scourges get some kind of relentless? Is there a teaser anywhere explaining how movement and shooting will work?

>>52933369
>what are magnets

>>52932680
Nth for Tyranids updated only to kill them off screen sce they're a boring NPC faction with no personality and the community would go full autismo if they develop speech
They'll join tomb Kings soon

>>52933091
Nope, it's the best value start collecting bar none, everything in it is excellent. I need to get another two or so for more Dunecrawlers and Vanguard, and the TPD is basically free converty bitz once you have two of them.

>>52933367
I don't know. If you can't move through enemy models, and the Retreat move is just treated as a regular move away from the unit you're assaulting, I imagine you could physically block it off by surrounding them.

>>52933369
There's an article up on the website about how movement works, and it hasn't changed a great deal. And we know how weapon profiles work, but not what they all are.

So I'd hold off for now.

>>52932882
I don't want balance I just want to end the game fast to do something else later

>>52933388
Didn't They say all current codexs and models will show up in 8th ed?

>>52932953
Re roll the 1d6 when charging

>>52933423
All models will be playable. They didn't necessarily say every race would be getting a new codex

>>52933388
>>52933423
All codices and models will get an 8ED release.

They may not be good, but.

>>52933384

>putting magnets in infantry arms

2hard4me, I only use them for monstrous creatures etc

>>52933407

Yeah good point. Just read over the articles and there's not enough there to go off of.

>>52933441
Yes they did.

>>52933423
>>52933441
All models are getting brand new rules to fit in the new system. And codices are getting rolled into 5 "Grand Alliance" books. We don't know specifically what they are yet, but the best bet IMO is
1. Space Marines
2. Imperial Forces
3. Xenos Empires
4. Xenos Hordes
5. Chaos

>>52933441
>>52933423
Everyone will get a new "codex" in that all their rules will be updated to 8th. Probably no specific lore but there will be 5 books that, amongst them, will have rules for all currently existing models.

>>52933462
Nah, grand alliances m8

>>52933423
>>52933441
>>52933445
Tomb Kings got rules for AoS to then being unceremoniously being axed from the settimg, the only "tomb Kings" units remaining are the mummy montarch and Nagash

>>52933464
1. Space Marines
2. Imperial Forces
3. Eldar (inc. Dark Eldar, Harlequins, Haemonculus Covens, Ynnari)
4. Xenos
5. Chaos

That's my bet.

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Will 8th ED make Gunfexes Great Again?

Or should I just use a Hierodule?

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>DG vs Overseas

That cracked me up a bit.

>>52933520
Hmm. That probably is a better bet considering the new Ynarri focus

>>52932750
Orks might be nice if they get a speed boost, but I'm not seeing them as being faster than a 5.

>>52933508
Fantasy also had their lore upended and did not receive the same promise that we got.

>>52933455
I magnetized my neophytes (for SW:A) and it was hell.

>>52932871
Gold Colour of the Emperor.

>>52933508
>AoS to then being unceremoniously being axed from the settimg
Great I'm suffering a stroke

>>52933522
>not dual crushing claws

>>52933531
Bit racist

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>>52933549
>implying I'm not running a Instinctual Carnifex detachment with Old One Eye as the leader
Synapse is for pussies.

>>52933522
>carnifex charges
>only gets 2 kills because low WS and few areas
>enemy falls back on their turn
>carnifex gets BTFO in their shooting phase

Should I buy FW recast terminators or GW plastic terminators?

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>>52933520
>>52933538
>Eldar
D E B U N K E D

>>52933574
I don't know how I misspelled attacks so it autocorrected to areas, but it do.

>>52933590
Is that a lacrymole skull?

>>52933590
>eldar
>not Commorites with Vect ascendant and the shadow muses with mandrakes teaming to fuck with Slaneesh

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>>52933423
>all current codexs and models
>>52933441
>All models will be playable.
>>52933445
>All codices and models will get an 8ED release.
>>52933464
>All models are getting brand new rules
So what will be the stats for these?

>>52933574
>charging with a gunfex
In 8 they'll probably get more kills given templates are no longer a thing.

>>52933649
all models that have rules

i heard Commorragh is destroyed these days? what has happened while i was away for 2 years? are my DEldars okay? what about Vect?

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>>52932680
Posting again because it seems 4chan ate my post.

I need something confirmed or debunked.

Guy was talking to me about 8th edition 40k and he was mentioning that the Tau are getting rolled in with the Eldar.

What? How does that make any sense.

I have a hard time believing it but wanted to check.

Thanks guys.

>>52933671
The Gate of Khaine finally shattered when Yvraine was resurrected as the prophet of Ynnead, the Eldar god of death.

>>52933679
why the fuck would you believe that for even a second?

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>everyone keeps hyping up the five faction things
>implying it won't be shit like rulebook, scenery book, imperium, chaos and xenos armybooks

https://www.strawpoll.me/12819985

Vote.

>>52933671
Vect and Rakarth are building new subrealm, Commoragh is in battle with daemons.

>>52933671
Gate of Khaine blww open, Cammoragh flooded with daemons, whiny vect is sulking because his crib is ruined and half his subjects went off to join the nudar.

>>52933651
I charge with my tldfex.

Sometimes you have to do dumb things.

But maybe this will be the return of the 10 wound carnifex, as was foretold by ancient prohets as one of the events that would preceed the end times.

>>52933671

Kheradruakh and the Mandrakes closed the Gate. Vect and the Covens are trying to hunt down Yvraine. Or were trying.

Also Lady Malys will be the first Slaanesh Eldar.

>>52933687
Well now Im reading the thread and Im seeing stuff about 5 factions, seems like it might happen?

>>52933692
It's still the same repetitive spammy shit even if you make a poll out of it.

>>52933692
Space Marines and Imperials will be one group

W-will my Rubrics be useful?

>>52933712
In that case I have a slightly used Eiffel tower for sale, only two previous owners.

>>52933712
No you moron, grand alliances are not the same as factions

It's just a way to consolidate so they can sell 5 big books instead of 20 small ones.

>>52933671
Yvarine ressed by the shard of Ynnead. This caused the Gate of Khaine to burst upon unleashing a massed daemon invasion over the whole city.

Vect and many ran away but some Kabals stuck behind to fight (because they had no choice mostly), the covens also joined in to defend the city, but they were not alone.

The Mandrake character finally completed his work and opened a gateway to the Shadow Realm. The mandrakes, shadow daemons, and the newly risen Shadow King joined the fight against the hordes of Chaos. Slowly but surely the combined alliance of Dark Eldar and shadow fiends are turning the tide on the daemons but for how long will this last?

>>52933739
2w each confirmed on FB

>>52933679
Yeah man totally. And the Emperor dies and is reincarnated as Ynnead so the Taudar join the Imperium xD

>>52933679
My dad works at games workshop, he can confirm this is true

>>52933679
This has never been mentioned by any announcement or FAQ by GW, as far as I'm aware.

>>52933729
Nah, that would make the imperial book like 12x bigger than all the others.

Space marines will get their own book with separate rules for all the major chapters

>>52933747
It's not grand alliances you moron, just 3 rough categories.

>>52933756
(And would also be stupid)

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>>52933751

>>52933475
Is that the official slogan of the Shitposters Union?

>>52933774
Wrong again dipshit, there are 5 books, 5 broad categories.

>>52933750

Who the fuck is the Shadow King?

>>52933455
I've magnetized all my GKs's Heads, Backpacks, left and right hands.

It's a bit time consuming, but once you get in a rhythm it goes fast

Why are all 5 alliances so boring?

God, I fucking hate every faction in 40k.

>>52933789
He is lying, all they said is that they (would) be tough to put down.

>>52933821
maybe you should be playing a different game

>>52933821
Bring back squats amirite guise xD

>>52933739
Probably more so than in 7th. We'll have to wait and see but it depends on their pts cost mostly. They were always good units, just a tad expensive to really shine. Still 2W would be great.

>>52933820
Reminds me i need a drill that fits my fucking magnet, maximum 1,5 mm drill capacity for pin vice and 2mm magnets is a recipe for anger.

>>52933803
Why does that sound like Grand Alliances? Do you people seriously think Necrons and Tau are going to somehow become Battle Brothers?

>>52933821
10/10 quality post. We are so enlightened from your astounding contribution to this thread.

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Anybody seen the possible starter yet?

>>52933864
no dingus, they're just using the AoS term because we don't have a 40k version of it yet.

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>>52933873

>>52933864
They'll likely be in the same book but not friends. There will be keywords or something to do allies.

Also, FORGE THE NARRATIVE

>>52933873
No, rumors are saying marines vs death guard

>>52933885
nubolters all come with scopes?

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>>52933885

>>52933899
ENHANCE

>>52933864
They will once they figure out the Tau are Necrontyr

>>52933891
Most likely. Those marines look snapfit (as the two in back have identical poses)

>>52933911
>(as the two in back have identical poses)

GW's newer kits have next to no scope for varying the poses though, so this doesn't really mean anything.

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>>52933908
>>52933899

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For context Tau was the name of the race. T'au was the name of the planet that race came from

>buy a new novel. They use the word to T'au instead of Tau. I dismissed it as a typo error by a BL author
>examine the new map and material for 8th ED
>It's all T'au instead of Tau

T'au Empire instead of Tau Empire....what the hell? Why did they do this, teegee?

>>52933895
The earlier leaked picture didn't have one, so it's possibly an option, like on current bolters.

>>52933927
If they didn't use gratuitous commas how would you know that they're aliens?

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>>52933927
To make them sophisticated, like m'lady.

>>52933885
>true scale marines
New chaos, new IG, new Sisters, new Crons

I'm calling it now

>>52933927
It's the T'au empire in the same way it was the British Empire and not the Human Empire.

>>52933927
Probably to help with copyright purposes. I certainly prefer just using an already existing term over something like Aelduridari.

Reworked army list from previous thread, 2000pts BSSF deathwatch list, any advice is appreciated!

COMMAND
Librarian [90pts]
Digital Weapons, Mastery Level 1
Power Armour
Combi-melta, Force Sword

AUXILIARY
Armour [260pts]
Land Raider Crusader - Extra Armour

CORE
Watch Company [1645pts]

-Watch Captain
Melta Bombs
Power Armour
Chainsword, Combi-melta

Aquila Kill Team
-Corvus Blackstar - Four Stormstrike Missles, Twin Linked Assault Cannon
-Black Shield - Storm Shield, Thunder Hammer
-Vanguard Veteran - Plasma Pistol, Power Sword
-Vanguard Veteran - Power Maul, Storm Shield
-Vanguard Veteran - Power Sword, Storm Shield
2x - Vanguard Veteran - Plasma Pistol, Thunder Hammer
2x -Veteran - Boltgun, Power Sword
-Veteran - Power Sword, Storm Shield
-Veteran - 2x Lightning Claw

Furor Kill Team
4x - Terminator - Thunder Hammer and Storm Shield
3x -Veteran -Boltgun & Chainsword
3x - Veteran with Frag Cannon

-Rhino
5x - Veteran - Chainsword, Stalker Pattern Boltgun

-Rhino
5x - Veteran - Deathwatch Shotgun, Storm Shield
5x - Veteran - Boltgun & Chainsword

and i will most likely keep to 7th edition codex, playing mostly with a friend and a roommate who both agree on this.

>>52933927
I hope they change the pronunciation to "dow" so noone plays them again.

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>>52933969
>new Sisters
fingers fucking crossed

>>52933990
stfu and prepare for 8th faggot

>>52933895

>rifle has a scope
>no stock

wew GW wew

>>52933999
TZEENTCH HEARS YOUR WISH

>>52933969
>new Crons
Why would they update "literally who" the faction?

>>52934011
they dont need a stock when they've got like gyrostabilizers in their power armor man

>>52933999
>new Sisters
Of course, "Sister of Battle" means a female Space Marine in nu40k :^)

>Eldar get their own book
Fuck, I just puked.

>>52933969
Crons got rebooted fairly recently though, at least compared to other armies

>>52934029
Yeah, no

>>52933999
>>52933969
>age of flamers
>Sisters battle tomorrow
One can hope

>>52934010
thanks for the enlightening input bruh.

>>52933804

Kheradruakh. If I'm not mistaken.

It's sad they chopped Vect's balls off. I don't think GW knows how to write good villians. Hell, he doesn't even really have to be a villian. I wouldn't mind seeing them rewrite him as more of a Dr. Doom style character.

>Imperium
>Space Marines/Adeptus Astartes
>Chaos
>Aeldari
>Assorted Xenos non/threats

>>52933926
Wonder if special pistols will become not trash.

>>52934043
You're not going to get any help here friend, sad to say. People are fully onboard the 8e hypetrain, no one cares about tailoring 7e lists because they'll be worthless in a few weeks

>>52934038
What makes you say tomorrow? They said they're covering the psychic phase tomorrow.

>>52934073
fair enough, i dont want to wait for months to get to assembling my models, and like i said, well be propably playing with 7th edition rules anyways with friends.

>>52933924
I dunno. Latest GW kit I assembled was Exalted Sorcerers. And that kit has hella options.

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I'm looking at getting back into the game, with the talk of a new edition on the horizon.

Is there currently a standard point size for 40k games? Like if I went to a store and got a game without mentioning points is there an assumption? (I saw the 8th Edition FAQ mention that 1500pts?)

Are there any lists that are generally (or personally) considered cheese/unfun to play against?

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>>52934083
>well be propably playing with 7th edition rules anyways with friends.
why

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>>52934047

Seems the writers wanted a new slate with a lot of 40k stuff. Don't want to be tied down to a lot of the old stories/characters.

>>52934083
>well be propably playing with 7th edition rules anyways with friends.
Yeah I remember when people said this about 5th, 6th, etc. They're all gonna be playing 8th in a month. :^)

>>52933999
You got them
>Sisters of SILENCE!

>>52934018
It makes sense though. Think about it, squats were in 40k, they were removed. Then they became meme bullshit. What did GW do? they put squats into AoS. Tomb Kings were removed from fantasy, became meme bullshit, so what will GW do? Put them in 40k. Its genius.

>>52933692
where the fuck did this scenery book meme come from

>>52933990
Plasma pistols are garbage
Land Raiders are garbage
Why are long range "move or shoot" stalker marines in a rhino?

>>52934095
For 7th edition, there's a lot of cheese of various kinds. 1500 and 1850 are the more common point values considered standard.

No clue how much of this will carry over to 8th, but you're best off watching and waiting on that before getting back in. No sense learning the 7e rules and only using them once or twice.

>>52934081
On normiebook they said there will be an SoB army making an appearance on Warhammer TV tomorrow.

>>52934109
scenery book and a fucking aeldari book are the worst kind of scenarios.

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HOPES, DREAMS AND WISHES: THE CODEXES.
>Traitor guardsmen
>Sisters 2.0
>Tau Auxiliary Forces
>Savage Orcs/Gretchin Rebel Army.

What do you dream of, anon?

>>52934073
It it a hypetrain if half the people on this website actively despise it? Or pretend to at the very least.

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>>52932680

If Space Marines and Guardsmen are still paying the same points for plasma guns and plasma pistols then 8th is an automatic failure.

>>52934095
Depends on the store. Between 1500-2000 is pretty standard.

No idea what'll happen when 8e comes out. They said that, because of the new rules speeding up the games, 1500 points will take about 90 minutes

>Are there any lists that are generally (or personally) considered cheese/unfun to play against?
Yes, lots. But they're all going away soon.

>>52934106
I already have sisters of silence and I love them. But I need me some sororitas as well

>>52934122
Oh yeah, that's just for a battlereport though

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So with vehicle rules and wounds and the like as they are now, I wonder how melta bombs will be. And frag and krak grenades for that matter.

>>52934128
>It it a hypetrain if half the people on this website actively despise it?
I've seen far more positive responses than negative. The negative ones tend to just be a couple diehard shitposters

>>52934109
Because it makes sense
Marines and Imperium are separate, per the Q&A.

Xenos and Chaos will be two more

The only "other" split I can see is Eldar (due to Craftworld, Dark, Clowns, Necromancer) variations

>>52934128
Because most of them are shitposting and the rest are idiots.

>>52934095
1850
That
Yes
Yes, Edar scatterpsam, Tau Super-suitspam,
Marine Bike/Pod/Gravspam, Tzeentch daemon summonspam)

>>52934134
Melta will be D6 W most likely, maybe with reroll against vehicles?

>>52933692
They already confirmed the 12 pages of core rules will be at the back of all the 5 army books

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>>52934129

>>52934148
why does it even really matter

These new books are just going to be for the very beginning, until they start pumping out specific codexes. Like the grand alliance books

>>52934166
Probably only works against keyword vehicle since it's more a charge than a grenade. Assuming keywords are in, I can't remember.

>>52933277
>leaves combat
>conscripts charge back in
Fuck!

But then this encourages players not to build Melee Death Stars: better to put those points into something to clean up the conscripts instead, and just have Melee Star Destroyers instead.

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.... What if melee weapons that are currently Unwieldy will have a negative To Hit modifier for the wielder in the next edition ?

>>52934130
This is a tabletop game. Someone's gonna find new cheese just as smelly as the last.

>>52934190
So. Where will all the Terrain rules be kept? In each book? In the "big" (12 page) book?

>>52934199
All my Terminators will never see use I guess. I can deal with them being underpowered in 7th and hitting last, I can't with them hitting worse.

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someone care to post all the hard facts known about the new edition so far?

>>52934225
yeah but with the new dataslate system it's far easier for GW to actively balance without having to wait for a future edition

>>52934124
Legion of the Damned

>>52934235
Probably in the books they're related to. IE the Tau shield wall thing shows up in the Xenos book, the imperial bastion shows up in the imperial book, etc

>>52934241
Reduces any To Hit roll by 1.

Suddenly your Terminators are hitting on 4+'s... just like they were in 7e.

>liked the xenos empire and dumb xenos (orks and nids) concept
>realize that eldar are the space marine posterboys for xenos

It fucking hurts, bros

>>52934281
Awful idea, so that's likely to come to pass.

>>52934281
5s you mean, they're only Ws 4 base.

>>52934322
>Someone hasn't read the 8th Edition terminator profiles

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>>52934322
Nope. Learn new profiles

3+ (+1) = 4+ aka same as 7e

>>52934124
Rangdan

>>52934124
>Exodites
>tactics for non-legion CSM warbands like Skyrar's Dark Wolves and Red Corsairs
>KULT OF SPEED

>marines are WS 3+
Does that mean WS5 units will hit on 2s? That's a massive buff to melee.

>>52934358
>weapon skill is a flat number
>no initiative
So what's good about Slaanesh units now?
Or are we just going to be the new Orks of 40k.

>>52934417
Dunno yet

>>52934322
>yet another shitposter who hasn't even read the articles
Where do you faggots even come from?

>>52934424
slaanesh is probably getting dumped anyways, sorry anon

>>52932750
Now that's a fucking Warboss!

>>52934444
quad 4s confirm Slaanesh no longer #4

>>52934444
quads wasted on a fucking shitpost from a nidleaf

fuck you

>>52934099

That would be fine with me if they added in someone new. I just don't think they have any direction with what to replace Vect with.

>>52934243
>Run, flat-out, and turboboost rolled into Movementphase
>Units can voluntarily retreat out of CC, but may not advance, shoot, or charge afterwards
>Weapons have armour modifiers, cover adds to armoursave
>All models use the same type of statline, large things all have their own 'damage chart' representing them getting weaker the more damaged they are
>Psychic phase still in
>Formations are gone, FOC are the new way fowards (14 available to all armies on release, more and army specific ones once codexes will be released)
>Command Points : rewarded based on FOC (and other ways ?) allow for Command Actions like charge in enemy assault phase. Armies will have their own Command Actions
>Keyword system, specially mentioned as the means to end deathstars
>No shooting into or out of combat
>Everything can hurt everything, HOWEVER this doesn't mean always having a realistic chance of actually doing any damage
>Movement value is back as a stat
>BS and WS values are now the value you have to roll (so 3+ for example) but BS and WS modifiers are in the game
>Weapons have a Damage stat, which is how much wounds they remove upon a failed save (similiar to str D weapons now)
>Initiative gone, unit that charges strikes first

Did I forget anything ?

>>52934417
Doubt it? Tho my guess is the melee powerhouses (Avatar, Bloodthristers, Tyrants) will hit on 2+ (as does Rowboat)

>>52934515
The fuck are you on about? You know they just added a new god/faction to the game whose whole purpose is to remove/kill slaanesh, right?

It's pretty clear GW doesn't want to do too much support for slaanesh going into the future, which is a shame

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>>52934124
KROOT

MERCENARIES

>>52934568
Gotta make room for the Hive Mind to become the fourth Chaos God.

>>52934568
>they added a new god/faction to the game whose whole purpose is to remove/kill slaanesh, right?
And this means Slaanesh is getting squatted NOW? Kys.

>>52934515
You seem really mad for someone responding to a shitpost.

>>52934568

You know they originally added 4 new Gods and 2 factions whose purpose is basically to remove/kill the Imperium, right?

It's pretty clear GW doesn't want to do too much support for the Imperium in the future

>>52934539
Oh wait
>Three Ways To Play (tm)
>Open : unbound with no points. Throw models on the table and start rolling dice
>Narrative : heavily mission based, uses abstract point system aka 'Power Level' for units. For example wargear upgrades don't cost anything
>Matched Play : strict point costs for everything and everyone, just like now.

>>52934542
So will Kharn hit on 1s?

>>52934595
I almost wish this was a food analogy desu

>>52934600
Who knows. Folks claim melee modifiers exist. But I haven't seen a source. Could be he's a 2+ unmodifiable.

>>52933679
Well...Eldrad has a huge boner for blueberries and tau can punch hard but knows fuck all about warp. And now that warpstorm shit is everywhere Ulthwe could give a hand to Tau.

>>52934589
Because I fucking hate "Slaanesh gets removed hurr" shitposts.

>>52933464
Codex Best
Codex 2nd Best
Codex Hover Xenos
Codex Spam Xenos
Codex Worst

>>52934600
What are you on about, Khârn already hits on a 1.

His own men admittedly, but still :^)

>>52934618
It's in the Profiles article on the community site, they mention WS and BS modifiers are a thing.

>>52934488

Holy fuck..confirmed

>>52934626
That means they're winning. If you're confident slaanesh is staying there's no reason to be mad.

>>52932871
They changed it to gold in honor of Celestines return?

>>52934666
It's only quads, that's only a 50% chance.

Remind me why didnt imperium and eldars gassed commoragh already?

>>52934689
Quads followed by dubs followed by trips though
The signs don't lie

>>52934717
I'd say that brings it up to about 85%.

>>52934666
Devil, begone!

>>52934713
Plot armour.

>>52934678
$$$$$$$$$$

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>>52934713

Because Chaos did

>>52934666
Well, if Lucifer says that's its true...

Any of you got improbable hopes for updated models for units?
>plastic Kommandos
>plastic Tankbustas
>new Lootas
>generic plastic Warboss with options

>>52933679
Probably misunderstood the new factions.

Aren't Tau and Eldar in the Xenos faction?

>>52934713
Because to the majority of the Imperium all Eldar are the same, and the Craftworld Eldar are in too low number and lacking the means to do anything about Commoragh, because it's 'hueg'

How do you think rerolls are going to be handled in 8th ed?
If BS and WS are capped at 2+, I think that's going to be a massive hit to previously high BS/WS units like Imperial Assassins. I find it hard to believe they're going to let them be just slightly better than the average Tactical Marine at shooting and stabbin', but I'm not sure what else they can do besides giving him a flat reroll which would be very meh. Past that, I can't think of much else.
Maybe a "x+/y+" profile, with the x being the first hit and the y being the reroll? That's not too different from what we have now.

>>52934539
>large things all have their own 'damage chart' representing them getting weaker the more damaged they are
Source? I know this is a thing in AoS, but I haven't seen any proof of it being in 8th ed yet.

>>52933590
Tomb Eldar kings?

>>52934713
Hidden in the webway and the dark eldar have stolen fucking stars, what good would gas do? the haemonculi would use it to torture folks instead.

>>52934618
>But I haven't seen a source.

There isn't one, it's just speculation. Like it wouldn't surprise me if Wych's dodge rule goes from being a 4+ inv save in CC, to opponents suffering a -2 penalty to hit them. Lelith will probably be something crazy like only being hit on a 6+ with a built-in Inv save as well like she always should have been.

>>52934746
>'hueg'

>Commoragh is bigger than a hundred hive worlds

stupidist retcon ever

>>52934748
It was said during the Live Stream on monday. Should still be up on normiebook, is about an hour long.

>>52934748
>but I'm not sure what else they can do besides giving him a flat reroll which would be very meh.

Vastly increased base numbers of attacks. I imagine we'll be seeing much higher numbers on the profiles now.

>>52934713

A much better question is why the Dark Eldar haven't dropped a black hole on Terra yet

>>52934734
Just as planned, ama rite?

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>>52934670
Well, he is still wrong! Fuck that guy...

>>52934792
Considering the amount of wounds that are being thrown around I'm guessing we'll see a similar increase in number of attacks
Dunno how they're thinking we'll be finishing a 1500 point game in 90 minutes seeing as we'll be rolling about a two hundred dice per round of combat

>>52934795
Vect wouldn't approve, it's not funny enough, dark eldar aren't competent enough, no profit

>>52934666
apparently it's very easy to trick Satan

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>>52934124
>Gretchin Rebel Army.

it would be so garbage but i would play it anyway, bring back the good old days ov gorkamorka

>>52934795
Because the Dark Eldar are essentially parasitic. If they didn't have an easy supply of slaves to consume, Commoragh would tear itself apart. So they have a vested interest in keeping the Imperium around; it provides them with the massive number of slaves they need, and it's powerful enough to keep galaxy-ending threats like Chaos and Tyranids under control.

Speaking of those deldar
Are AdMech basically human's dark eldar? Just instead of sodomites, they go lovecraftian.

>>52934870
>galaxy-ending threats like Tyranids

Stop.

>>52934662
>neato. Thanks for confirming source

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>>52934581
>remove Slaanesh from AoS
>AoS gets Khorne, Nurgle and Tzeentch models but no Slaanesh
>add in a story character who's sole purpose is to kill slaanesh
>do a start collecting kit for Khorne, Nurgle and Tzeentch but not Slaanesh
Sorry anon but Slaanesh is done for.

If Eight Edition is gonna be all about change how do you think the lore will change? Will the story progress just to make Chaos winners again?

>>52934124
Chaos Eldar who worship Khorne, Nurgle and Tzeentch.
Slaanesh Eldar who are the most disgusting assholes and traitors to ever exist, not even the ChEldar tolerate these scums.

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>>52934737
>Any of you got improbable hopes for updated models for units?
Let's see...
>Dreadnought Multi Melta and Autocannon arms more easily available
>Generic Librarian/Chaplain kits ala the Space Marine Commander
>Plastic Techmarine w/ Servitors
>non-resin named HQs
That's about it for Blood Angels imo. Our range is pretty decent as is. Tactical Terminators have a fairly old kit, but what we have now is still serviceable. I guess those could be added to the list though if you're really hurting for entries.

I do want some way to take Frag Cannons as heavy weapons in Tactical and Devastator squads ala Deathwatch too, but our Tactical Squad box is pretty great as is. Can't think of a way to introduce the bitz very easily otherwise.

>>52934901
Not really. The two factions don't have a whole lot in common.

>Dark Eldar are the real Eldar
>craftworlds and exodites are puritan nutjobs

>>52934916
Tzeentch just came out though. Slaanesh is coming in AoS.

>>52934917
Chaos can never 'win' it would upset the normies too much
But the story will progress in such a way that it allows them more minor victories; even if only in BL novels

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>>52934444
>>52934666
The gets don't lie, Slaanesh is a dead god walking.

>>52934737
Tbf Tankbustas and Kommandos can just be new Boyz sprue + upgrade sprue

>>52934916
stfu

>>52934941
>Slaanesh is coming in AoS.

I guess the chastity cage is being taken off soon, huh?

>>52934960
>The seven emotional stages of grief are usually understood to be shock or disbelief, denial, bargaining, guilt, anger, depression, and acceptance/hope. Symptoms of grief can be emotional, physical, social, or religious in nature.

>>52934923
Slaanesh eldar could be a nice move from GW. Now that eldar got Ynnead going and try to beat Slanny, s/he let's loose twisted eldar souls against them. Just to twist that knife in the wound for that extra sensation.

>>52934129
They won't automatically come with them, you'll probably only be able to get a bolter squad or a flashlight squad and get your specials elsewhere.

>>52934917
Chaos will be a serious threat for the first time in a decade and a half. We won't win, but we'll no longer be "Oh man those bad guys sure are evil! Good thing they live in a tiny hole and can't get out except to be used a fodder for the forces of OUR SPIRITUAL LIEGE!"

Chaos has slipped as a threat to the point where its become a meme throughout the community. Now, like the 'nids, we'll be a terrifying force the Imperium is just barely able to fight off. I expect we'll have some time in the spotlight to make sure the point is delivered before other equally neglected armies are given some time to shine.

>>52934737
New Ork Warbuggies/Wartrakks, i've gotten sick of converting them and the actual models are literally ancient

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So im re-learning how to paint, and im doing pretty good. My only issue is weathering and paint chipping on my vehicles.

I tried the GW youtube method, but I was hopping there was a slightly better way/method to weather. Also if anyone can point me in the right direction for how to do paint chips, that would be fantastic because all my attempts have ended poorly

>>52934818
>Considering the amount of wounds that are being thrown around I'm guessing we'll see a similar increase in number of attacks
>more attacks all around
>uncapped strength characteristic
>Damage stat allows for multiple wounds per Hit
Holy fuck, just add in a healthy heapin' o' "6's To Hit/Wound cause additional Hits/Wounds that, on 6's, cause additional Hits/Wounds and so on" and my dick could be used as an S13 AP1 Lance weapon.

>>52934988
I would rather go five stages of zangief on your ass

>>52935008

Chaos has surpassed the Nids. And yeah the memery was so bad that ork, nids and ork players thought they were the ultimate bads.

>>52934901
No, they don't really raid or pillage anything, the only thing they care about is finding old tech and maintaining what they have. They only fight to either reclaim old tech or protect their shit.

>>52933999
I love the SoB concept, if they tossed out that retarded tit armor and universal bob cuts I'd start an army.

>>52935083
>retarded tit armor

You have to go back.

>>52935008
The memes have been about Abaddon himself who should have been displaced by the likes of a modern traitor like Huron. GWs insistence that Abaddon be the big bad is the reason chaos looks so impotent. They're going too far too fast with the progression and making chaos boring to hear about.

>>52935083
You know you can build your minis however you like right? Literally nothing's stopping you from making a head and chest swap.

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>>52935100

>wanting the thin blood Huron and the literally whos Red Corsairs take the spotlight

No Chaos players are asking or want this, especially after the backlash to the Renegade 4th edition codex

>>52935032
Ah, see?

There is 'anger'.

>>52935083
You have to go back. Back to Tumblr.

>>52935037
Chaos was an absolute joke for most of the life time of 40k. From 2nd edition to just shy of present they were repeatedly portrayed as cartoonishly incompetent, plagued by infighting and confined to the eye of terror with no apprent way out.

That portrayal was so consistent that chaos space marines came across as a remnant of a previous conflict that is now mostly contained, unimportant fringe threat. Random emergent chaos worshippers seemed like a more credible and persistent widespread threat.

Naturally a lot of people assumed that the xenos with apocalyptic plans for the galaxy would actually play that role at some point.

>>52935129
I want this. Fuck Abaddon, he's boring. Space pirates are what's in.

>>52935100
>The memes have been about Abaddon himself who should have been displaced

Eat a dick. The meme was started by Imperialfags who couldn't bother to read the fluff and by the scum at 1d4chan. Now you reaping what you sowed.

Abaddon tore the galaxy in half, inflicting damage to the galaxy unseen since the War in Heaven. No soul in the galaxy can has left such a wound on existence. Now please laugh at the Tyranidfags claiming that their faction is hot shit.

And Huron was never Abaddon's equal in the fluff. His only fame is losing the Bedab war. What Black Crusade did he lead? What are his conquests? NOTHING.

>>52934953
Which makes it worse that they haven't done that. Can never get enough rokkits for my boys.

>>52935013
Ooh, those are also good ones.
Also
>Actual plastic deffkoptas you can get in their own kits

As a sisters player, I am fucking LOVING being able to fall back from combat because we're cheap enough to have a lot of bodies, but still have a 3+ save.

>>52935129
>>52935185
Reddit spacing, and 1d4chan expert. Chaos players sure are faggots.

>>52935083
>Likes the SoB concept
>Hates tit armour

Missing the point of SoB so much. Might as well play marines or guard with girls head at that point.

>>52935181
No, you don't. Huron is worthless. Dude is confirmed to be incapable of withstanding the Undivided attention of the Chaos Gods while Abaddon endures it out of sheer willpower. Huron has a team of scientists and sorcerers maintaining his corporeal form because if he lets go then he will ascend to daemonhood but there is a negative to this since he will be a daemon prince with the mind of a Chaos spawn (read mindless).

Furthermore, Huron bent the knee to Abaddon in exchange for a Blackstone Fortress.

>>52935214
Not cheap enough to buy a lot of SoB bodies though
Plastics when

>>52935215
Anti-Chaos will always will be the biggest of faggots though.

>>52935226
>Plays 40k
>Poor

At least say you dislike working with metal. So you don't look like a massive pleb

>>52934124
Gue'la forces for tau/human serving xenos

>>52935214
aren't SoB just 2 points cheaper then marines?

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>>52935250
Say that to my face

>>52935225
And who still has his blackstone fortress?

Hint - not Abaddon.

>>52935030
>just add in a healthy heapin' o' "6's To Hit/Wound cause additional Hits/Wounds that, on 6's, cause additional Hits/Wounds and so on"

Why even go that far? Bring on the models with 12 base attacks, says I.

>>52935215
Anon, I love you, but "reddit spacing" is called paragraphs and it's how you format text. Not everything someone you don't like does has to be attributed to reddit.

>>52934124
Hammerhead railguns that do better than Broadside railguns without the latter being nerfed to shit.

Some kind of fast attack crisis suit instead of the giant robots we've been getting lately.

New Squats.

Exodites.

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>>52935083
>>52935220
>he doesn't want an army of fanatical dominatrix nuns with flamethrowers.

>>52934124
Those and exodites.
Kinda got my main wish with genestealer cults.

>>52934424
Mark of Slaanesh is probably +movement or reroll advance die now.

>>52935278
He sacrificed it to rip the galaxy in half and make the Eye of Terror expand forward toward Terra. More than a fair exchange.

Now no one is safe.

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>>52935306
I know fucking crazy.

>>52935306
More Repentia type models would be cool.

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>>52935097
>>52935127
>>52935174
>>52935220
>>52935306
>Armor tits are the point of SoB.

They can look like Dominatrix nuns all they want. Armor tits are still retarded.
>>52935354
I'm for this.

>>52935324
>He sacrificed it

It got blown up by the Imperial Fists, and when Abaddon failed to rout the Cadians AGAIN, he threw a tantrum and smashed the debris into the planet. Like, the end result was the same, but let's not pretend getting his superweapon BTFO'ed by the Phalanx was part of some master plan.

>>52935380
Wait, I thought some of the yiff crippled it.

>>52935374
SO SWAP PARTS YOU AUTIST. My fucking lord.

>>52935374
Armour tits are a legitimate distraction tactic !

>>52935380
>It got blown up by the Imperial Fists, and when Abaddon failed to rout the Cadians AGAIN, he threw a tantrum and smashed the debris into the planet.

Actually, he said that the plan was to destroy Cadia all along using the debris (after the BSF was blown up). It was the Pylons suddenly activating that made him go down to Cadia to fight because he saw it as a personal challenge.

Once the Cadians proved unwillingly to break, he teleported away and went with the original of smashing Cadia.

>>52935388
A ragtag space marine army brought down it;s shields which then allowed the suddenly appearing phalanx to blow it up.

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>>52935374
>Missing the point of the tit armour this hard.
>Not noticing nipple in Human power armour.
I say human not marine.

In 40k showing off you are a man or a woman is part of the power armour aesthetic.

It's like you hate the human form. Are you ashame of your body?

>>52935388
That is also a thing that happened. And I seem to recall something about Cadia's shields preventing it from firing between the sabotage and the Phalanx attacking. Abaddon's superweapon was actually more effective after it was blown up than when it was fully functional.

>>52935450
Did you miss the part of the story that had Trazyn improving the crude Imperial gellar shield and granting it enough power to stop the Fortress's Warp Beam?

Why did you do that?

>>52935450
Because Armless the Harmless is a bad Character and needs axing.

The amount of asspulls and rectons need to make it seem competent end looking lame and boring

>>52934195
No need for foul language. From the community site:

If you’re in combat at the start of your turn, you can Fall Back by moving away from the enemy. You’ll lose the ability to advance, shoot or charge that turn, and crucially, enemies will be able to shoot at you!

>>52935492
Why is Trazyn such a mary sue?

>>52935494
you

see
>>52935492

They only thing incompetent here is both of yours ability to read the lore. I mean my god you are kindergarten level. Then you use your ignorance to cry about imaginary rectons and spout shit.

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>>52935492
My man trollzyn

>>52934539
b-but what happens if combat last for more than one turn
>inb4 "this unit cannot attack first in close combat" rule on orks, it's not even funny

>>52935514
He is a plot character now. Like the Collector from Marvel. Having the right thing for the heroes at a price or some shit.

Basically bad writing like everything since 5th

Don't get me wrong it can be a fun read, but it is utter trash

>>52935539
We don't know yet.

>>52934124
viable dread mob list is all I want. 2 Mega Dreads are comming to me atm.

>True line of sight
>Template and blast weapons
>Unit spacing
>Positioning special models

What's going to happen to these aspects of the game in 8E, /40kg/?

>>52935552
>>52935534
>>52935514
>>52935492
>"His collection includes ... a giant man wearing baroque Power Armour."
Who do we think it could be /40kg/?

>>52935580
Dunno, likely no change
Gone
Different mostly due to above
dunno

>>52935529
How Trollzyn helping makes Abaddon a good character?
The guy feels silly as a villain, like a cartoon one.

>>52935580
Well, already we know that unit spacing might still be important with the new charging rules, since rather than just overwatching before getting locked in, you need to have units positioned properly to punish assaults after falling back

Why does Ynnead look like the brother of Slaanesh?

>>52935585
The nameless Custodes that he unleashed among other Imperials in Fall of Cadia.