MtG $$$$$$ COMPETITIVE $$$$$$ MODERN GENERAL

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Direct weekly metagame link:
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WCD5RsSUmTJJHF870YQZ7oS1xBDTX3a0OPnfoRqKY7I/pubhtml/sheet?headers=false&gid=410422045

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>>52930358
Just daily reminder.

If you build a deck with biggest meta share, you are contributing to get fucking banned, because "meta diversity".

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>>52930336

Ah, I see we went back to $$$$$$$$$

I doubt it's going to reduce shitposting but we'll see

Burnfag here, how the fuck do I beat bogles? I side in 2 back to nature and 3 or 4 destructive revelry and just never draw them. Am I supposed to mulligan until I get one in my opening hand? He's beat me two weeks in a row and I'm a little salty.

I was saying this before, but today a moron like saffron olive was able to win 6/7 matches with new gideon. That card is going to break the format.

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>>52930704
Splash Black.

>>52930895
Good.

Maybe we'll get some better planeswalker removal than Dreadbore. Abrupt Decay is nice, but there's going to be things it can't hit.

So is Faries a meme deck or is it actually good?

>>52930895
>>52930938
it boggles my mind how they let it go to print. Platinum Angel costs 7 mana for the same effect, and sees fringe play. It also dies to path/terminate/cut/dismember So Wizards, in their wisdom, decides to reduce the cost by 4, make it so the effect doesn't die to path/terminate/dismemenber/cut/etc, and then also make it so that even if you kill it, they can just recycle old gideons to sustain it, who are also harder to kill.

This is better than Platinum Angel in almost every way, by a fucking lot, and any deck running white should consider playing it.

>>52931015
Yes

>>52931015
It doesn't actually do anything. Proxy the deck up and play it. It's pretty dull.

hey, can someone buy me grixis ninjas. i really want to play this game but do not have the money. any rich anons out there. will give feet pics

>>52931015
Not amazing but it's not bad. Because Your shit flies you get over most blockers, Bitterblossom gets you a chump blocker every turn and everything flashes iirc. I've been playing ir for like a week and it's decent. Do note Tron is almost an autoloss for you game 1. I have Fulminators and Ceremonious Rejections sided but it still doesn't always get me a win against it.

>>52930438
TY for that. After DRS, BBE, Pod, Twin and Eye... I finally got the message.
Not mad at all for drs, pod and eye, but fucking twin and bbe were random as fuck.

>>52930895
Post list cuck

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>>52931297
>mfw turn 3 bbe into lili
Please never again

>>52931325
It was literally gideon tribal+lingering souls.

With that he was able to destroy the format.

>>52931228
Iirc you need Cryptics, Vendillion Cliques, and Snappys for that. Feet pics won't cut it unless they're like massive footfags

>>52931395
What were his matchups?

>>52931405
ok. how about gifts storm

Will do anything

>>52931584
2 Tron matches
1 Death's Shadow Jund
1 Vizier Druid
1 Ad Nauseam
1 Mill
1 Smallpox

He only lost the VizierDruid match.

>>52931598

Start with zombie hunt and work your way up. You could be asking for a deck of 60 forests and nobody would put in the effort of sending it to you.

What decks do you guys own? Do you like to diversify your deck portfolio by using multiple types of decks?

I have Burn, Elves and Knightfall. All I need is some shitty control deck.

>>52931703
Three of those aren't real decks.
He got absolutely stomped by the Vizier Druid. There was no response to CoCos whatsoever.

I have zero concerns about this memebrew as it stands. It probably loses to Elves.

>>52931739
He lost the druid matchup due to a serious misplay on his part IMO. He might not have ultimately won it if he took the proper line of play, but he wouldn't have lost when he did.

>>52931739
>>52931754
And I don't think this build is the actual build. I'm just saying that the new gideon allowed him to destroy some of the best decks in the format, while playing with memes, and being a moron.

>>52931775
He also won heavily using Grixis Ninjas, so I wouldn't think too highly of the deck.

Hell, he could have even edited the video to show only the good matches. His following is big enough to drive some sales, so I wouldn't put it too far behind him to do something like this.

>>52931598
>Get job
>Get cards
>Consistently top 8 GPS to get sponsored
>Get every deck free because sponsored

>>52931825
The only match I know for sure he excluded is a tron matchup, since it was a duplicate. AgainstTheOdds videos also often see him losing 5-8 times in a row, so I doubt the edit the series for sells.

Furthermore, we already know Gideon is incredible, purely from analyzing the card.

Combine it all together, and the picture of a format defining card is becoming clearer and clearer.

>>52931841
have jorb, game is TOO expensive

>>52931721
sound strat but i don't think zombie hunt is spiking fnm for 50 dollar store credit any time soon

>>52932060
>Take out loan
>Buy cards
>Git gud
>Win money back

Foolproof

>>52932060
>have job game is too expensive
Maybe don't work as a Wendy's chef?

>>52931739
>ad nauseum
>not a real deck
You're a big gay homo faggot

>>52932236
>tfw you work as a janitor at shitdonalds in Canada and you can still afford to play this children's card game

>>52931739
Really hoping this combo breaks CoCo enough that they print some responses to it.

That card was never playtested and shouldn't have been released.

>>52932388
Cage and Teeg exist but I'm not sure what you mean by responses.

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>>52930481
>>52930903
This is the direction to go but instead of splashing black for the effect just use pic related.

>>52930704
Do you live in Alaska or something? Who the fuck still has bogles in his meta?

>>52932980
Your LGS meta isn't the world meta
There's no Affinity, Death Shadow or Jund in mine

>>52933026
I have had 2 bogles players in LGS and they both switched at some point last year.

>>52933073
I'm not the first Anon by the way
There's no Bogles either and, as far as I know, I'm the only one playing a tier 1 deck

>>52933124
I want your meta. Where are you?

>>52933152
In a dead city, probably on the other side of the planet
Calais, France

So I've concocted a brew that can semi-reliably win on turn 3.5, via that fancy new infinite mana set up and your choice of Genesis Wave, Chord of Calling, or Tooth and Nail. I feel like a lot of the list is just baggage/filler though, that or it could just be the nature of combo decks and not drawing what you need. Here's the list so you guys can shit all over it:

Creatures (26)
4 Vizier of Remedies
4 Devoted Druid
2 Wurmcoil Engine
1 Spawnsire of Ulamog
4 Birds of Paradise
4 Noble Hierarch
4 Sakura-Tribe Elder
3 Eternal Witness

Spells (14)
4 Chord of Calling
4 Collected Company
4 Genesis Wave
2 Tooth and Nail

Lands (20)
4 Windswept Heath
4 Temple Garden
7 Forest
5 Plains

Sideboard (Incomplete):
1 Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
2 Vines of Vastwood
4 Path to Exile

Sideboard is a work in progress. The eldrazi are there for Spawnsire, Paths are self explanatory, and the vines are there as an attempt at safeguarding the combo pieces against more interactive/removal heavy decks.

>>52933506
This is the worst deck I have ever seen

>>52933506
This is terrible my man. Brewing is not for you

>want to build mill meme for fun
>gtu price
Why hasn't it been reprinted as an uncommon in a master set yet? Fuck.

>>52933876
>>52933882

So how would you make it work anon, as you're the brewmaster here.

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>>52933506
Okay, couple of things.

First, you have too many finishers. Cut down to about 5 total cards that you can finish off after assembling the combo. (Personally, I've always thought a classic infinate Fireball, or similar card is the way to go.)

Second, you don't have enough creatures to make CoCo good. See pic related. You're likely to hit one, but you always want to hit two. Jam more creatures, or cut CoCo.

>>52933903
I would scrap then entire thing and start from scratch. I don't care enough to build a deck for you however

>>52933884
>uncommon
Mill like this in draft is very powerful.
>Inb4 fuck limited
Many people like it and it can be fun

>>52933936
I personally run 8 finishers 4 chord, 3 duskwatch and a ballista, also coco is pretty much a win as I run 3 ewit and 3 Recruiter, I've only fizzled a couple times after casting coco with infinite mana

>>52933936
Sure, as said I feel like a lot of the list is fat needing to be trimmed. At the moment it's more a "proof of concept", seeing what portions of the deck are actually reliable/consistent and shaving it down from there.

>>52933977
So you have no idea and just want to talk shit, got it.

>>52933903
Here's the list I'm working with, you don't need to splash red or black desu
Creature (30)
4x Birds of Paradise
4x Devoted Druid
3x Duskwatch Recruiter Flip
2x Eternal Witness
1x Fiend Hunter
3x Kitchen Finks
1x Knight of the Reliquary
1x Magus of the Moon
1x Reclamation Sage
1x Scavenging Ooze
1x Spellskite
1x Viscera Seer
4x Vizier of Remedies
2x Voice of Resurgence
1x Walking Ballista
Land (22)
4x Forest
1x Gavony Township
1x Ghost Quarter
1x Kessig Wolf Run
1x Overgrown Tomb
1x Plains
1x Razorverge Thicket
1x Stomping Ground
3x Temple Garden
4x Windswept Heath
4x Wooded Foothills
Instant (8)
4x Chord of Calling
4x Collected Company

>>52931015
I think it's finally playable. If you're a good player you can win some games, but that logic goes for almost any deck.

>>52933989
Why would you infinite mana into an Emrakul instead of infinite mana into infinite damage?

>>52933977
They can just make it a mythic uncommon like path and IoK

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>>52934015
>don't need to splash Black or Red
>Viscera Seer and Magus of the Moon

Hang on a minute....

>>52933884
too unfair in draft

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people are overreacting to this Gideon nonsense

the only reason it saw any success was because of how much of a curveball it is

>>52934159
I'm saying you don't need to splash for either of them as they're not 100% crucial. I splash for them cause I think they're pretty good, you're a retard.

>>52934192
I think it's playable. Maybe even tier 2

>>52934204
I'm not retarded. Your sentence structure was unclear. What you should have said is, "I splashed Black and Red in my deck, but you don't have to"

>>52931735
All i own is grixis delver, though i might get the death's shadows to go grixis death's shadow.

>>52930704
You play deflecting palm and do 20 damage with 2mana. This is not that hard mate.

Also
>Back to nature

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>>52931735
I own G/B Tron, Bant Eldrazi, and Mono-Green Stompy.

If I wasn't a broke college student I'd probably build Boros Burn or Revolt Zoo and some variety of Delver as well. I love the idea of having an entire library of decks to play with and lend out to people.

>>52934192
>hey let's take an already playable card (platinum angel), reduce the mana cost by more than half, and make it harder to remove!
>Surely the resulting card isn't overpowered!

>>52934663
>harder to remove!
Dies to abrupt decay

>>52932236
i work as a parking valet
i make a lot of money
most of it goes towards my family's medical bills
im just going to start stealing mm3 packs

>>52934720
>doesn't die to cut, terminate, path, or dismember.

>>52934743
Dismember gives it -5/-5, and path exiles it

>>52934764
Only if you're dumb enough to turn it into a creature if you suspect they have those cards.

>>52932980
Nah, Texas.
1 guy plays dsj, another guy is on abzan, and my friend is on eldrazi tron. Every other deck is T2 or below.

>>52934615
I am ashame.
I forget that even tho my sb gets me through games, that it isn't done and I need deflecting palms.

>>52930704
Selfinflicted Wound if you have black mana, Deflecting Palms otherwise.
If your meta is filled with boggles, consider maybe a Patrician's Scorn if you run Helix/Boros charm, it can be a really potent silver bullet imho. Destructive Rev is always amazing, or any green mass enchantment removal

>>52934908
How much have you been playing burn? Deflecting palm bounds so many things from bogles to tron to infect to goy to.... Well I didn't come up with another one, but you know?

>>52934764
why would you ever animate it?

>>52935186
I've been playing burn for the past maybe 6 months, it's my only modern deck. Poorfag tho so I'm still not even done with the mb (need 1 more eidolon and I'm running a cinder glade instead of stomping ground)
My sb isn't that great but since I always top 4 at modern night I forgot I needed palms and such.
I've only played 2 tron decks and I can beat them both pretty easy. I have lost to goyf tho. No infect in my meta so that's not a worry

>>52931015
It was a good standard deck that aged like milk. Bitterblossom was unbanned because even the notoriously gun-shy folks at WotC didn't perceive the deck as even remotely threatening.

>>52935414
you could try skull crack so that the boggle doesn't gain your opponent any life when it hits you. You're still getting beat down by the boggle though.

>fw wanted to buy into modern with Hulk Footsteps
>protean hulk is now $20 each
guess i'll just have to get a real deck instead

>>52935549
I main 3 skullcracks and 4 atarkas command atm. Like you said, turning off lifelink but taking 8 still sucks

>>52931297
>tfw DRS and BBE would be perfectly acceptable if Lotv didn't exist
The #1 complaint from those cards was bbe into lotv/DRS into Lotv was busted. And it was. Lotv is an insane payoff card.

Ban Lotv, free bitchbraid elf

And I have 3 Lotv in my legacy deck so don't >imply I just want her banned because I'm poor.

>>52935624
Thank the commander autists for that shit

>>52935938
>DRS would be okay if lili didn't exist
Please fuck off

>>52936034
no u

>>52935809
Yeah, man, Bogles is a rough matchup. Deflecting Palm helps, so grab those like, today. I've had some success with Anger of the Gods or Volcanic Fallout (not as good, but is an instant.), but it's still not that great. Especially when I have a creature heavy hand + Anger.

Mostly against Bogles, I just do what I can and take my lumps.

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>>52936042
Sure senpai, no doubt the single best creature ever printed would be fine in modern.

>>52936152
So it slots in to a lot of decks. I don't see the problem here.

>>52936272
It's literally the brainstorm of creatures you're so dumb and gay I bet you play pox, if you honestly don't think Modern has enough overpowered GBx decks please kill yourself

>>52936272
Because you're an idiot

>>52936272
It's called "The One Mana Planeswalker" for a reason. It's ramp, anti-aggro (with lifegain), extra damage, and graveyard hate all stapled onto a 1 drop.

Every one and their mother would play DRS and also lose to DRS. It is not a card that would be healthy for Modern.

>>52936352
Don't forget it's a legitimate clock by itself as well

>>52936352
You can make me only so erect.

>>52932236

Fuck you, I am a chef at Wendys and I make $120,000 a year + benefits.

I am also 6'4 with a 9 inch dick, get at me fuckboy.

>>52935938
>ban Liliana
>unban BBE
What is this boner

>want to build a new deck
>can't decide on 1 deck
Fuck it

1-3 Control
4-6 Combo
7-9 Tron (aka control)
0 BGx
Doubles Kithkin

>>52936638
Tron is gross

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>>52936638
Sweet, another Tron player! Man, I'm so excited!

>>52936661
Actually I hate Tron, but at least the only requirement for "Tron" is playing the lands.

What's the memeiest version of Tron there is?

>>52936580
Yea but you work at a fast food establishment so you're a gross loser

>>52936638
Posting for Kithkin. God I hope you have to play it. If you do end up on Kithkin, post pics and results here, so we can laugh at you.

>>52931735
I've got Burn, Mono Green tron, Affinity, and Stompy.
Thinking of building Skred and Getting the very much needed black cards for GB Tron

>tfw you forget to take your trip off

>>52936685
Mono blue

>>52936688
If I could make $120,000 with no responsibility and don't have to think about my job at home doing the same thing every day with no change I would do it in a heartbeat. I don't fucking care what everyone else thinks. At that salary a (fake) fast food job will ALWAYS be superior to any real job that pays that much.

>>52936745
Really? I thought U Tron was pretty tame. I was thinking more grixis Tron with Bolas PW in it.

>>52936778
>grixis Tron with bolas PW
Holy hell I didn't know that was even an option

>>52936580
>Wendy's
>chef
Thanks for the laugh

>>52936802
the new 5 color land in amonkhet enables a lot of tron bullshit. you can even meme it up with fist of suns or the bringers

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Added 4 Lilly and a Collective Brutality, and cut Seth's funofs. Rounded out the 1drops for full packages (8seize meta af)

B/W Gideon midrange is actually fucking nasty, it's very low to the ground and Lily can take over games following turn1-2 interaction.

Finally lost to Ad Naus, but I kept a really shitty hand with 3 discard spells into opponent's Leyline, and didn't draw into Disenchant. Opponent had enough mana for Echoing on Gideon + Lightning Storm. Wish I had drawn a Leyline of my own, as I think they only brought in the one Echoing.

>>52934739
>parking valet
>a lot of money
You're barely above wendy's chef tier and you have medical bills too? Why the fuck are you spending money on cardboard?

>>52930336
What a shit format when will they reprint counterspell REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>52936757
Yea but you can't, so fuck off mongoloid

>>52937061
i make 35 dollars an hour, and then tips
i dont have medical bills, my family does, i help pay them because i would like to see them live
im not spending money on cardboard, i dont have a deck yet. i want one. all i do is play xmage

>>52937193
>Marrying dying people or having dying children
Weak as fuck desu, your ilk disgust me, or did you marry a retard?

>>52937240
its my parents, what the hell is wrong with you

>>52937261
Anon, it's 4chan, someone was always gonna give you shit about caring about your family. Don't pay attention to them, do what you gotta do to care for your parents.

>>52937193
>35 dollars + tips
>lying on the internet

>>52936638
i'm rollin, but i can only support so many memes in my deckboxes

>>52937326
ill explain to you what i do at my job, because it'll make sense as to why i make so much
im not the kind of valet that drives your car for you, im not allowed to
what i actually do is meet very very old people at the start of the parking lot, then sprint alongside their car and help them back in without causing any accidents (they cant see or anything and they HAVE to back in--or else when people leave there will be accidents)
no one wants to do it because it is two things that people hate doing:
1) dealing with grumpy old people who hate being told what to do
2) physical labor (its nonstop sprinting)
one guy tipped me 100 dollars because i helped him have an affair

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>>52937419
It's time to stop posting and move on, friend. Like, I get you want people to understand, but when people do that, they look like autistic faggots.

Just call him a moron and move on.

>>52937419
35 an hour for a good valet isn't even that much. I know some in New York that make more than that

>>52937531
ok

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>>52937419
:^)

>>52937652
he forgot to mention the part where he sucks dicks for 20 extra

>>52937261
Let the leeches die you weak bastard

>>52937773
i was offering feet pics a minute ago . to play modern

why did we come here

>>52930336
Is there any reason to build anything other than Jund and Burn and play either depending on wether the meta is aggro o combo heavy?

>>52931024
there's a reason "Oops all Gideons" is gaining traction. running one AKH gid with three or four other ones is a non-losing strat.

>>52931024
Platinum Angel doesn't die to creatures on board, though. If your opponent has creatures to kill you, then he can just kill Gideon first and then kill you. That doesn't work with Plat. Angel - it has to be removed.

What Gideon's emblem does do, though, is let you build a deck where board control is the only thing that matters. And he's White, which is the color best suited for locking down the board with Wraths and tokens.

>>52938184
Regardless, the design is poor and isn't very fun to play against

>>52938079
Not really, no. I think Abzan is a little better than Jund but that's trivial.

>>52937193
I'm a fisherman, I make $42k post taxes in 5 months and even I think Magic is expensive.
Some people just don't value their money.

>>52938455
What do you fish for? Bankruptcy? Lmao

>>52938455
What the fuck value does it have other then spending? None

>>52938455
I'm a teacher, I think everything is expensive. I hate my life so much.

>>52938523
Maybe you shouldn't whine and bitch so much about having 200 days off a year you fucking worthless faggot

Since Legacy killed Painter dead, is there a playable modern deck using my favorite creature in magic?

>>52938581
no

>>52938499
>t. basement dweller on neetbucks

>>52938581
There's painted bellower if you want to meme it up, it's really not that shit though

>mfw majored in math
>mfw 300k starting can afford every deck I want
Feels good to be patrician.

>inb4 assblasted engineers working for less than 100k get booty blasted

>>52934764
Why animate my gideon when i iok your hand andbsee you have path?

>>52938672
Yeah you're full of shit, post a paystub or fuck off. I graduated from Berkeley and that's literally unheard of.

How viable would a Pestilence (pyrohemia)/gideon build be? It seems like this could really meme it up.

>>52938774
How the fuck have you never seen the math major 300k meme before?

>>52938567
>theatlantic.com/education/archive/2015/07/myth-of-teacher-summer-vacation/397535/

I'm not a teacher but if you think teachers are overpaid or have excessive time off you're retarded and never considered your education from the other direction. Assuming you had one.

>>52938890
How the fuck has the modern general gotten worse in 3 weeks? It's pretty amazing.

>>52938943
>An article written by some faggot who is probably a teacher
>Muh """Research"""""
Lmao American Education everyone, Teachers are making exactly what they deserve if this is the kind of retards they're churning out. Quod erat demonstrandum
>Full government benefits and a fat pension
Oh so sad ;_;

>>52938943
If he unironically thinks teachers get 200 days off a year then he might not have an education tbqh

The education system is a fucking joke. If teachers are retarded enough to think they're helping, then they deserve the shit wage they get

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>>52939078

How is any of this even relevant to Modern you faggots?

>>52939116
How is your post relevant?

>>52939107
Just because you're a massive idiot doesn't mean it's bait

How bad is modern Rally?

>>52939287
It's not a deck

This thread accurately represents the state of the Modern format.

>>52939412
Modern is great. You miserable people will never be pleased

I actually like my local meta. The only problem I have with modern rn is the probe ban.

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>>52939481
>The only problem I have with modern rn is the probe ban.
I miss it too :(

>>52939481
Lmoa kill urself infect shitter

>>52939555
That deck was so much fun and the only reason I want probe back. Fuck infect.
My friend is putting together a list rn to see how bad it is without probe. Will post list of interested

>>52939790
I didn't play infect anon, I played a friends red blue deck.
>>52939819
That me

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>>52939819
>tfw I finished the deck 2 days before probe got banned
yes, I would be interested in that list.

>>52939882
4 swiftspear
4 TITI
4 kiln fiend
2 bedlam reveler
4 mutagenic growth
4 bolt
4 serum vision
2 sleight of hand
2 apostles blessing
3 titan strength
3 temur battlerage
2 become immense
4 manamorphose
Then the basic land package with 1 breeding pool for become immense.
Any suggestions or constructive criticism would be appreciated

>>52939425
TRUTH

>>52938672
90k a year should be more than enough to afford multiple modern decks easily, unless you're wrecked by medical bills or having your wages garnished something

>>52940145
The thing I never understand, is if you don't have the money, then play fucking casual or something, I really can't fathom being poor as fuck but just spending your little bit on a thousand dollar modern deck, bottles my mind

>>52940169
I know it really cheeses my macaroni

>>52939989
Oh and 2 noxious revival

Anyone here play Burn? Got anything new or spicy for the main or side?

>>52940479
Not really new, but I run 1 thunderous wrath. Going to try out harsh mentor tho

>>52939882
Of the lists at last year's Worlds, the core would seem to be
4 Swift
4 Thing
4 Kiln
1 Bedlam
4 Bolt
4 Serum
2 Sleight
4 Morphose
4 Rage
4 Mutagenic
2 Apostals
1 Vapor Snag

1 flex slot
and 4 Probe

The flex slot was 1 Faithless, 1 Snag and 1 Bedlam, so I've jammed all 3. That leaves 2 free slots.
I've been liking Gutshot in one of the slots, and the last slot I'm still undecided on.

I also tried 1 Apostal 1 Stuborn and it was about the same as 2 Apostal. Not sure where it belongs but Stub is strong in the deck.

>>52940479
I've been running Firecraft in the SB recently, but that's because my area is infested with URx shitters who still haven't let go after twin got banned.
Thinking of trying out some Harsh Mentors too

>>52936510
Deathrite Shaman Gifts Control felt so good to play

Would wizards ever make it so they could ban only certain pairings of cards? Like you can have GSZ in your deck or dryad arbor but not both

>>52940776
Probably not. Many cards are banned because they limit design space by being too powerful with certain effects. GSZ and Pod are two of those bans, every creature printed required wizards to ask themselves "is this too powerful with pod/gsz". Of course that hasn't stopped them from printing horse shit creatures anyway so fuck me, right?

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>have $50k/year job
>own 5 modern decks and two and a half legacy decks
>live with family and drive inherited vehicle so I can use income on nonsense
Ecks dee

>>52941200
What you playing? Include legacy too.

>>52932196
Pretty sure you can't pay back a bank loan in store credit.

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>>52941200
>being such a tremendous faggot nerd that you'd rather play mtg than move out of your parents house and fuck women
So this is the power of autism....

>>52941552
You buy cards with the store credit and sell them on eBay you tard

>>52936352
Really is the best creature printed, but I don't think it's too good for legacy.

>>52941569
>fuck women
Traps are better in literally every way and don't mind my parents basement. Nice meme though pepe sensei

>>52941585
Yeah, thats a sound financial plan.

>>52936685
I play 5C Gifts Tron for the ultimate control

>tfw you lie just to seem cool to a bunch of anons
>tfw your actually poor and have to buy your entire decks from China
No one can tell the difference though.

>>52941684
Post your list.

>>52941569
>such a tremendous faggot he can't do both

>>52941524
Memedern:
Living end
Titanshift
Elves
Genesis wave
UW control

Legacy:
UBg reanimator
Midrange Junk
And for the half a deck part, I take the lands of both to make a solid BUG mana base, take the forces and brainstorms out of reanimator, take the BGx core out of junk, throw in a set of shardless agent, baleful strix and ancestral visions I keep sleeved separately and I have shardless bug.

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>>52941734

>>52941853
With Shift and Genesis Wave you pretty much have all the pricey cards for Ponza, T&N, Amulet, JundShift, tons of stuff.
Like how cheap are Stone Rains and Inferno Titan?

>>52941962
Yeah, a lot of what I have can be mixed and matched around to make a wide variety of decks. Genesis wave was tooth and nail originally, T&N was straight up better but I changed it because Genesis wave amused me more.

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this is the future of the modern format.

>>52941853
That's pretty sexy. I'm thinking about playing dredge in every format, but don't really have a legacy scene here so might hold off for a while.

>>52942573
I would include a much bigger tron package in the sideboard, but yeah, that looks legit.

>>52942573
You tron matchup doesnt seem good for some reason but im sure its fine

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>>52942573
>9CHAD

>>52942693
agreed 100% duder.
any suggestions on cleaning up the landbase? 4 godless/4 shambling seem hefty and 1 gq seems light.
Maybe with more ghost quarters it could have a Crucible in the sb?

>>52942573
Surgical Extraction belongs in the sideboard I think. Often, an opponent will only have one particular answer to a gideon emblem in the sideboard, and surgical lets you nail it. It would also shore up your tron matchup more.

>>52942768
>>52942822
Surgicals alongside Ghost Quarters, more Fulmys/Crucible, seems quite potent

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What's the best manabase for b/w tokens? I've been playing a basic shock/fetch package but I feel like I kill myself faster then they kill me, especially with bb and phyrexian arena. Is it worth it to go a it more "budget" with lands that won't bolt me for the first 3 turns?

>>52942994
You'll probably want to start off by getting yourself a full set of Concealed Courtyard - my local B/W tokens player swears by them.

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>>52942573
Needs more Ghost Quarters.

As others have said, add Surgical Extraction to the sideboard, it's an efficient way to shut off Tron. Replace Disenchant with Fragmentize, hits Leyline of Sanctity a turn earlier to turn on discard spells.

>>52942573
I hadn't thought of using Lili but that's probably the way to go. I think 6 discard is better than the full set though, same with removal spells. I'd rather have some extra tokens (Bitterblossom maybe?) and a way to kill noncreature permanents, like Anguished Unmaking or Cast Out. Anything other than 4 Ghost Quarter/3 SB Extractions seems wrong, too. That package should make Tron winnable and Valakut a complete slaughter.

>>52939287
It's rally bad

how do grixis delver and ur delver stack up against each other in terms of player friendliness and match ups against current top decks like dredge and affinity

>>52941608
t. Homosexual
Traps arent women and few if any pass, the ones on the internet use clever lighting and camera tricks

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>>52943651
Lilly has been sweet. She discards extraneous Chads and can take over a game.

I like all the 16 card package of 1cmc killshit, discard helps deal with whatever you can't kill, but I do agree it may be too much. Trimming back and adding 2 Bitterblossom could make it have a better threat density.
I would say there's no more than 2 unlisted cards, and a numerical tweaking of the cards listed, that would form the perfect config. It otherwise seems like a solid, if bland, gameplan, and a tuned 75 could have 50+% matchups all around.

>>52942573
>1 mana mana elfs are too good
>3 mana Platinum Angels and 2 mana Serra Angels arent tho lol
I seriously fucking hate Wizards. Normally I laugh at faggots who go "muh interaction" but this shit is beyond annoying
>slam my pushed planeswalker
>lol now you cant win unless you take time to kill every planeswalker I play and they all generate value and protect themselves, all while I sit back and play new threats every turn
I think it may be time for me to quit MtG, recent bannings show they have no idea what the fuck they are doing anymore, they had to ban 4 cards in Standard due to no answers being printed to combat the ridiculously pushed threats they print, Moderns ok atm but constantly suffers from the bullshit they do to it, and although Miracles deserved to get put down a notch they just inadvertently killed it and a few other fringe decks too while making Blue even better and more necessary to play then it already was.
Can we just have a format thats all sets up to M15 to avoid the cancer they began printing after that?

Is there any format thats safe from Wizards ridiculous uninteractive bullshit, format ruining bannings, and pushed cards? I love the game but I hate the direction they are taking it, and no im not a salty blue control faggot, but uninteractive planeswalker slamming and pushed threats that are nearly impossible to answer unless your answer is "I won the turn before it came down" is boring as fuck.

>>52943913
3cmc gideon has been less op than you would think. he's a solid play, especially at 3cmc, and is good behind as well as on an empty board, but I don't think he's as op powerful as Lilly of the Veil

>>52943966
Pauper

>>52942573
It'd be cool to play a Sun Titans to bring back Chad

Probably too expensive though

The idea of playing an Emeria Sun Titan mono chad list sounds funny though

>>52943966
Literally just Pauper when it comes no retarded bans, they just fuck up that format by printing shit they shouldn't print at common and then banning it when it degenerates a couple of months later.

>>52943976
Still its annoying, just another pushed walker used to sell packs and promote uninteractive walker slinging. Walkers can be fine but a 3 mana Platinum Angel is fucking obnoxious especially if you are behind, he even stays around and if you kill him and they drop AoZ next turn then you need to bust through a blocker and kill him too to win all while hes smashing face for 5 a turn afterwards and playing other threats.

>>52943976
I would say Lili was printed when there were a lot of other good cards in standard so it wasn't as bad

It's annoying when they print cards like Gideon Ally in a set with >literally< no other cards that come close

Maybe I should just put together a very nice eternal cube to play with friends, no need to buy packs every draft, can play whenever, and best of all no bannings.

>>52944053
tfw went to prerelease and pulled a gideon

>>52944022
Maybe the old U/W Emeria list splashing chad could be something

>emeria back sun titan bringing back chad
>flickerwhisp saving chad
>having a few counters to save chad

>>52944148
I'm not very familiar with Ad Nauseam, but I've seen some talk of running chad in it too.

I'm pretty sure a lot of decks can get behind a 3 mana platinum angel on a planeswalker body.

>>52944148
>SavingPrivateChad.dec

Why do I even play modern? I dont enjoy it and I just lose to meme shit piles because I couldn't open or dig to my silver bullets.

>>52944616
Sounds like you're garbage at the game

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>>52944616
just play chord or eldritch evolution decks and search up your silver bullets

>>52944616
>because I couldn't open or dig to my silver bullets.
Play a toolbox then. Half the fun of my melira deck is chording for a selfless with no mana open when a wrath is cast or Eidolon of Rhetoric when the storm player is starting to jerk off.

>>52944644
>I'm garbage because I cant deal with uninteractive decks because I couldn't afford to mull to rip an answer or I couldn't dig to get an answer.

sick1

>>52944645
>>52944667

I was thinking about it, but every chord player just complains that the deck is poo and gets shit on by the upper half of the metagame.

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>>52944680
can't win em all

>>52944680
Yea I'm sure it's only because you need a silver bullet, let alone can't find one.

>>52944724
How did that boardstate happen?

>>52944794
sac'd my birds to eldritch evolution to get magus

>>52944680
>I was thinking about it, but every chord player just complains that the deck is poo and gets shit on by the upper half of the metagame.
What? Against DSJ, GBx you are even matched (biggest problem being early game hand disruption) and pretty much guaranteed to win if the game goes super long, very favored against burn from g1, favored against affinity post side, and unfavored against most combo decks with odds rising post board by a lot. The only decks that straight up takes a shit on you are the Tron variants unless you luck into the combo early and they miss on interaction via stone or red sweeper, admittedly it was a lot worse pre Eye ban but it's not good still by a long shot.

Even if that is the general outline you can tailor you deck to a specific meta, mix and matching your odds against the various matchups with shit like more mainboard Wall of Roots to shut down early aggression or a mainboard Courser or a mainboard Selfless if your meta is wrath heavy. It just seems to me that your local CoCo players are trash at the game and can't deckbuild/pilot their way out of a porta-potty.

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>mfw ensnaring bridge is still allowed in modern

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>>52944864
>Year of our lord 2017
>Still having trouble against meme decks.

>>52944890
Lantern and tezzeret are very real and ensnaring bridge is extremely unfair

Will dreadbore spike with the new Gideon?

>>52944794
Probably simian spirit guide

>>52942768

Concealed courtyard

>>52942573


This is a deck name and not boring stuff like Gideon tribal

>>52945047
Dreadbore isn't legal in standard silly
>muh saffron olive sample of 5 games

>>52942738
It's actually been stated by players of the deck that Tron tends to be the worst MU.

>>52945193

Like he's going to be the only fucker using the new chad

I'm thinking of getting in to Modern, how's Eldrazi and Taxes in the current MTGO metagame? The deck looks pretty interesting and I like all the little interactions like Flickerwisp + Straggler, and it's relatively cheap to boot.

>>52945467
Check the first post of the thread.

>>52945482
I saw it. Just seeing that it's tier 2 doesn't really tell me much other than that it's a decent deck.

>>52944904
Play ways to kill it then

>>52945496
>how's Eldrazi and Taxes in the current MTGO metagame?
> Just seeing that it's tier 2 doesn't really tell me much other than that it's a decent deck.
What? If the deck wasn't good in the current meta it wouldn't be tier 2, that is literally the function of a tier system. Do you just not know what tiers mean or something?

>>52945758
Tier 1 is the best decks in the format
Tier 2 is decks that can compete with Tier 1 but aren't played quite as much
Is that right? I guess I just wanted opinions on the deck and it's matchups rather than just something like "yeah the deck's tier 2, if you want to play it you'll have fun."

>>52945778
Generally tiers are strictly by usage (% of meta game), and people can give whatever explanation they like for why they're at that level of usage. It's possible for tier 2 decks to be able to compete with some decks easily and have no game versus others, some might be all round match ups but aren't consistent enough.

>>52945778
Basically what >>52945788 said. Tier 1 decks are the uncontested champs of the format. Tier 2 can compete with most Tier 1 decks, but tend to have a few matches bad enough that they keep them from the top. These bad matches can be made fair(er) though with sideboarding and a good pilot.

>>52945820
>These bad matches can be made fair(er)
as long as it's not tron

>>52945867
Fuck off goober, Tron is far from unbeatable.

>>52945778
Eldrazi D&T has good matchups with the 3-4 color titans of the format, being DSJ, Grixis DS, Melira, Junk-Jund(less so due to bolt) etc as they disrupt and scale better than regular D&T but not so much they can race or out pace a DS/BGx deck that can push through the disruption, on the board at least. Naturally good-ish matches against Storm and combo decks in general, so-so against Tron (good hand disruption but you can't scale and the O-Stones are your bane), pre sideboard very bad against Dredge and even after you are relying on luck to draw your RIPs (you will note most lists run freaking 4 of them in the side).

E D&T is a bastard child in the middle. It has good hand disruption (4 scullers, 4 Seers +8 flickers) but that isn't always enough. You also mostly give up air for a ground assault as opposed to regular D&T in exchange for a faster clock but sometimes a single goyf, DS is enough to stop your pressure. A solid deck with flexible pieces that slot into legacy and fairly cheap if you put the Vials that cost close to 200 and 2-3 Bobs aside.

Also Skred fucking wrecks you bitchboi ass hard.

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V A L A K U T I S K I N G

all other decks go die please.

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>save for weeks to build the top deck in the format
>build Kithkin, ready to take my LGS by storm
>stomp everyone and their plebeian decks into the ground with my superior tier 0 list
>show up the next week
>literally every person there is on Living End that week
>mfw

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>>52945971
More like V A L A C U C K

>>52946015
Sakura tribe elder is the anime hero we all need, you shitty bgx players dont understand! My boy Sakura dies and becomes...

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>>52946043
A real hero

>>52946049
>shitposting.png
>modern masters printing
checks out.

Critique my BW Aristocrats list? Upgrades? Return to the Ranks over Enduring Renewal?

4 Godless Shrine
4 Concealed Courtyard
3 Caves of Koilos
2 Isolated Chapel
5 Swamp
6 Plains
4 Blood Artist
4 Zulaport Cutthroat
4 Viscera Seer
3 Cartel Aristocrat
4 Doomed Traveler
3 Hangarback Walker
3 Dark Confidant
3 Tidehollow Sculler
2 Liliana, Heretical Healer//Liliana, Defiant Necromancer
4 Rally the Ancestors
2 Enduring Renewal


2 Fragmentize
2 Rest in Peace
2 Stony Silence
3 Lingering Souls
2 Damnation
2 Fatal Push
2 Path to Exile

So, 8 drainers, 7 sac outlets, 7 cheap fodder, 6 recur spells, 8 goodstuff. Removal is SB because I feel we can just play solitaire game 1 (gaining enough life to survive aggro matchups), and bring removal vs. 'yard hate game 2.

Splashing G or R, for now, is not an option.

>>52941569
To be fair pepe sensei even if I moved out and stopped playing children's card games I probably wouldn't be getting any chicks, I'm a bit of a loser all on my own

>>52946005
Please put more thought into your shitposts

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>>52945778
I'm so fucking done people using tiers as deck strength basis. It just shows how shallow your understanding of the game is.

I've seen so many decks become top decks that were considered to be "tier 2-3 jank" that were misunderstood, because most of magic players are bad at deck building and the decks were still finding that last piece to tip the cup over. People also don't understand that decks to beat are sometimes worse than Tier 2 decks in certain meta, but because they are played the most they are still in that unbeatable champ list of "tier 1".

When 10-20% of meta is playing a deck, even a suboptimal list will put up results, maybe even top 8 just because of variances. (This isn't completely true, because your deck still needs a reasonable consistency to get through 8 or so rounds) But holy fuck, someone won a tournament with shitty Amulet bloom deck (cheater? Maybe, but someone else got into top8 with low metashare as well), someone won a tournament with a shitty lantern deck. RG valakut was a meme in the era of BG valakut, but now that's how they play it. UR storm, complete shit, put up top8. Skred, complete chaff, according to /tg tier4.5 complete garbage, put up top8 or did it even win?

Yes, banning changes the meta, but tier 2 decks are sometimes really good that just won't put up result because not enough players can put them through to top8, because of variance.

>>52948757
Continuing:

Death shadow, was a complete junk according to big portion of /tg, it's now one of the biggest impact cards in current meta.

SCG Classic - Worcester april 9
Zombies, fucking bad deck, top8. I remember people bashing it here all the time.

Blue moon got into top8s straight from the gutter if I recall? It wasn't really ever discussed from what I saw and somehow it just came around and got into top lists.

I remember how right after Grave-troll unban, people testing dredge kept telling how bad it is. Here again, most didn't know how to build it, most didn't know how to play it. A fucking gargadon version won the tournament and gargadon is just bad in it.

Question.
Since the vizier + druid gives infinite mana does it also give infinite snakes with hapatra?

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Yes?

>>52945730
Seriously? No shit. You don't always have those cards. It's just dumb. It cuts out the main way to win for no effort

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>>52944864
>winning via creature damage

>>52942573
I've played against what appears to be this exact list multiple times yesterday and crushed it with jank decks.

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>>52946049
If you're gonna play Prime Time, at least do so in a sophisticated manner.

>>52948871
Unless I'm remembering wrong blue moon got into top 8s after nacatl was unbanned, because the deck punished greedy mana bases hard.
Dredge decks were shit for a long time after GGT unban, only doing anything after SoI released

>>52949237
Had similar experiences. People saw saffron olive do well with it but he went against complete retards in the single match queues who kept 1 land hands and didn't know how to combo off with ad nauseum.

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>>52945971
omae wa mou shindieru

>>52949396
Hasn't blue moon been there every now and then even today? It's not like people are using any less greedy manabases now.

You are completely right on dredge. Prized amalgam was what ramped the powerlevel up.

What deck should I build next tg? I have DSJ, Storm, Grixis Control, GB Tron, Mardu Midrange, Affinity, Titanshift, UB Tezz, Abzan Company, Eternal Command, Merfolk, BTL Scapeshift, and Dredge built. I'm bored with them all, I want an interesting hard to play deck, don't care what tier, but something interesting that's at least semi capable of winning.

>>52949488
Hello

>>52949707
>13 decks built
>bored of them all

Have you considered that Magic might not be for you? Or that you might have a problem? I can't possibly imagine being bored with the game, much less bored with 13 different decks. (I have 7 decks across 3 formats and I'm still excited to play)

Maybe you should take a break from the game for a while. Or try different decks on XMage before buying into one that you'll just get bored with.

>>52949707
Find a card that gives you erect and build around it yourself. If you can't, you are in the wrong game.

>>52949935
Nah I love Magic. I've had Grixis Control, Tron, Mardu, Affinity, Company, Eternal Command, and Merfolk built for a while. I have autism, and it's really all I do, I have a bunch of other rich friends at college and all we do is play MTG all the time, but those decks I love and play them all the time. Most recently I built UB Tezz which got much better with Whir and I'm still enjoying, Titan Shift, BTL Scapeshift, which is still fun but not that great, DSJ, Storm, then Dredge, 4 of which are really linear and boring desu. I want to blow my brains out when I have to bring Dredge to a tourney. I wouldn't say I'm bored, there's just nothing I enjoy more than working together a new deck and testing it and brewing and playing it, the new deck feel is my favorite. IDK any suggestions help. It's also of note I do play standard and like to brew there, but copycat just shat on the format for so long I stopped playing, maybe I'll fuck around some more with Amonkhet and cat banned. I play legacy too, but my painter and Miracles decks just got shat on so I'm a little ass pained, and 4c Control is so fucking gay.

>>52950046
That card was BTL, however it's just not that good in today's hyper faggot aggro format.

>>52949935
Play burn and autisticly shout lighting bolt whenever you cast a spell regardless if it is a bolt or not.

>>52950050
Huh, okay. You might not be as bad as I first thought. I've known several people who were always bored playing anything, but for whatever reason, they never stopped. Like, dude, I'd rather do anything else than you be miserable.

You can try UW Control or Esper Draw-Go. Or maybe Kiki-Chord if that's still a deck. Possibly Living End, and it's getting better with new not!Egypt toys.

>>52950108
I did this at FNM once. My friend got me a shirt that said, "Burn, Baby, Burn", so I showed up with that shirt, red pants, colored my hair and played Burn. Good times.

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>>52950046

done

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>>52949707
do you have a moment to talk about our lord and savior t̞̠͍̮̜̬ͅh̙̬̥͎̼͔o̟u̮̪͇̥͍̖ͅg͔̣̫͟h̗͕t̻̼̻-̰knot s̸̨̛͖͈͍̗̠͈̟͕̝͍̥̝͟͞é̗͍̞̦̫̺̻̣͕͓̝̬̞̱͍̥̝̺̕͞e̷̛͚̯̱͈͕r̛̝̣͖̙̯̪͈̞̠͉̟̼̫͝?̸̨̛̯̜̥͕̹̪̹͉͕͔̝̬̮̞͈͇͟ͅ

>CoCo
>land Vizier and Druid
>win

wow

I really don't want to run Blue just to have insurance against this. It's actually disgusting.

>>52950360
How is it any different from how coco decks already were winning?

>>52950360
>remove druid with literally anything
>you can also add Surgical Extraction. No druids, no combo
>play Harsh Mentor (Untapping Druid is an activated ability)
>beat face faster than they can combo

You've got options, dude. Use them.

>>52950360
Literally just removal you fucking baby.

>>52950509
>path the druid
>in response he reactivates the combo for another million, then passes priority

you're as dumb as he is

>>52950546
>path the druid in upkeep
>I make a million mana ; ;
>k

>>52950546
Yeah because everyone knows you CoCo in the main step. Or what? Your scenario gets to the point where they CoCo the entire combo and have a Chord for Emakrul or some shit like that?

>>52950710
>chording for emrakul
Oh so you're a retard and don't even understand the combo

>>52950726
The combo is for infinite mana, what you do with that mana to win varies, the solution I see most is the new green god with infinite activations or Duskwatch into Balista into pings both of which are impossible to do unless it's your mainstep.

You are clinically retarded.

Tectonic Edge vs Ghost Quarter in Dredge sideboard, or in a roundabout way: would you expect more Tron or Valakut decks @ GP Copenhagen?

>>52937411

We have a winrar here. Post the pics after you build the deck. Remember its only bad matchup is living end.

>>52931735
I own and play Grixis Delver. I also own RUG Delver, but almost never play it.

I'm considering building Grixis Control.

I don't like to play decks if they can beat Tron.

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>the slowest and most interactive tier 1 deck is playing 1 mana 12/12s

Is there a point when WotC realizes how ridiculous it is that cards like SFM and Jace are still on the banlist in a format like this?

>>52931735
I own all blue control decks as I am a colossal faggot

None of them are good

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>>52931735
My bae is rug delver but I also play and own eldrazi and taxes, ub tezzerator, Skred, affinity and living end

>>52950299
Eldrazi is the biggest faggot deck ever desu

>>52951375
Yes. It's the same point when the company crashes this game with no survivors.

And after that, some rich player or some random company buys the IP, and recreates the game for the next cycle of idiots and autists.

>>52948757
>>52948871
>sperging out this hard and still managing to be wrong

>>52951321
The only good Grixis deck is Grixis Shadow, no point in playing strictly worse versions of it.

>>52951375
Yeah, and said creature also dies to the two most common removal spells (which are also 1 drops) in the format.

>>52951375
Fucking Pod, Punishing Fire and Jitte are more likely to get unbanned than SFM and Jace. Especially Jace, he ain't never getting off.

>>52951749
>Jitte unban
Please no
never

>>52949135
the effort is getting hellbent and finding in time and I'll have you know that both of those things require some effort. Run more outs if you gives that much trouble you fucking baby

>>52930336
I'm thinking about getting to modern for the first time.
I've got a budget of about $250 and I'm open to all strategies. what can that net me?

>>52951862
Mono red burn

>>52951862
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/modern-r-34800#paper

>>52951862
For that, Mono-red Burn or Mono-green Stompy. Of the two, Burn is the better investment, as it's still fairly strong and can easily build into the full, "real" list when you get the funds or will to do so.

>>52951908
>>52951889
>>52951882
Is $250 really that little in modern? I thought $50 infect was still big....

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>>52951609

>>52951925
The cheapest you're going to get for "real" decks will be something like Merfolk or Naya Burn, which sit between $500 and $600 depending on the build.

>>52951862
With that budget only Mono Red Burn, Skred or Soul Sisters, none of which are competitive on any real level.

>>52948726
I'm sorry senpai, it was 4am and I was pretty drunk. I'll do better next time.

>>52951971
Soul Sisters is like $400 now; Auriok Champion spiked hard.

>>52951629
Elaborate

>>52952061
Fuck Auriok Champion, most lists don't even run it in the main anymore , problem is Serra Ascendant is 70-80 bucks for a playset and you can't cut her. Hell in a pinch you can even cut the Flagstones but not the Ascendants

>>52951862
Buy your zen fetchlands + any card that costs more than $30 from the Chinaman for $2 each.
Spend the remaining $200 on filling out the rest of what you need and boom, you can play essentially any deck in the format.
This strategy also works for Legacy.

>>52952061
>some random card spikes to retard levels for no reason again
Can this stop

>>52952108
>lelele chinamen XD
Kill yourself

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>Mfw suddenly during tax return season faggots have a few hundred to spend on magic cards
Put that fucking money in the bank you retards

>>52952129
What are you so hostile about?
The man asked for strategies to acquire a modern deck for $250 and that seems the most reasonable one.

>>52952162
investing in cards is better

>>52952178
Absolutely. I highly recommend buying ton of Death Shadows at the moment. In 4 years it's going to be 60$ card.

How do we make infect great again?

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>>52952282
You don't and you shouldn't.

>>52952282
even if git probe was legal infect would be dumpster tier desu

>>52952378
>Tier 1 deck would be dumpster tier

???

>>52952398
infect wouldn't be tier one even with probe right now that was the point retard

>>52952358
There is literally nothing wrong with infect.

>>52951862
Avoid mono-green stompy. It's too slow for even FNM at this point.

With $250 I would look to focusing on your mana base. Allied fetch lands go for about 15-20 a pop, 60-80 for a playset. Shocks are about 10 a pop on average. Pain lands are 2.00 to 5.00 per, and check lands are even less.

These are going to be essential if you want to bounce between decks, and if you want to run more than two colors (you should).
Getting locked out of a deck because you can't reliably get the mana you need is awful. Buy into lands first to avoid this.

We can probably make do with four fetches and put another 40 into shocks, using up 100.
The other 150 we can put towards actual spells.
Or, we can put 150 into lands (8 fetches, or more shocks and some pains) to allow us to move between decks easier.
Your call. If you don't know the deck you want, I might opt for the latter.

Avoid enemy-color fetches for now. We don't have the money.

Personally, I might recommend something like
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/much-abrew-alesha-reanimator-modern
provided we cut some of the worthless jank like Master of Cruelties who we won't ever use anywhere else, and isn't even great in this list.

Why I recommend it is because it's a deck easily divided into parts.
We make one pass on lands, a second pass on nonlands, and then when we have money, we replace the shitty nonlands with good ones and have Jund.

Bant Eldrazi, or Eldrazi & Taxes might also be a consideration. They only have one whopping expensive card (Noble Hierarch and Dark Confidant respectively), unlike Jund with multiple.
The other thing is that Bant Eldrazi is still allied colors, which has cheaper lands. E&T meanwhile is one of the few decks that doesn't need a third color, and so we don't actually need the $30/card fetches as bad.

>>52952221
buying boxes of modern masters is a safer bet

>>52952571
>I want to play aggro, but it's only fair if my opponent plays with half health and can't use life gain
>I also want to be able to pretend I am a combo deck

Infect was a faggy deck for faggy people and I am glad it's gone. Burn is more than enough to keep tronfags in check.

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>>52952791
>burn
>keeping tronfags in check

>>52952791
You have to be 18 or older to post here.

>>52952875
and a reeeee to you too, my good gentlesir

>>52952791
>implying tron needs to be kept in check while Wizards are replacing creatures with Planeswalkers
>therefore foreshadowing good planeswalker removal

Get fucked Karn.

>>52952946
a man can dream

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>>52952946
>Wizards would ever do anything to harm the playability of their favorite card type
The reign of Karn is eternal.

>>52950546

>Cast the druid
>in response path the other guy
>I make inf-
>oh

>>52953061
CoCo doesn't cast dude.

>>52951653

A 1 CMC infinity/infinity dies to two of the cheapest removal spells in the format, that doesn't make it balanced.

>>52953082

so your combo relies on ramping to 4 now, and loses twofold to collective brutality. no biggie

>>52953150
The strength of abzan company has always been the fact that it's a fairly solid gw value beatdown deck that just accidentally wins sometimes. Anyone talking about the remedies/druid combo like it's how they're going to be winning most games is a retard. By that same point, the infinite life/damage combo probably works better in the deck just because it doesn't require you to hold things in hand in anticipation, and that it goes off at instant speed the turn the pieces are assembed, of course.