Pathfinder General /pfg/

>>52916369
>At-will wolf shape back and forth?

This!

Well since we got all the others, mind posting quil whatever lords?

Shilling my campaign out one last time:

You have 4 days left to drop your applications in (maybe a few more if I am too worn out to read through them all monday).

Come help me make a scifantasy shitshow.

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/73938/rhusae

SCHRODINGERS BOIPUSSY

Is starjammer ripped?

>>52916369

What's the point of that top? The girls are hardly secure in it, the moment she does any sort of even slightly vigorous movement those things are going to flop out.

>>52916369
>lets make my wolf people better than kitsunes and changelings.
Fuck off. They're fine as is.

>>52916369
Give Rougarou +2 STR/WIS with no penalty and make the wolf-shape at-will

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How do you reconcile one's natural scheming and strategist mind with roleplaying characters who may not be schemers themselves?

>>52916521
nah get fucked kitsunefag

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>>52916521
Youkai kitsune should have been kitsune from the start.

Is this a /pfg/ related thread? >>52913740

>>52916501
The point of a top like that is to entice and nothing more.

>look up Rougarou from last thread
>literally wolf-headed anthro people
>/pfg/ is just going to see them as shitty wolf-eared animu garbage in every thread, as evident from the OP

And it's still hilarious that people think it's "furries" that have ruined these generals, and not the weebs.

>>52916599

No, but I'm pretty sure that pic's been used as an OP.

>>52916617
Whatever, furry. Take your gross animal heads and get out.

Alright, went through and checked all the high powered new monsters that were posted last thread. Noctilca still sits at the highest published CHA score at 40 which means my busted autistic diplomancer build still works.

>>52915553
I wanna silently snuggle Black Butterfly!

>>52916617
Weebs are worse than furries desu

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>>52916573
By throwing them in the trash and starting over

>>52916654
I bet she's "close friends" with Desna.

>>52916617
So sorry, I guess I should be all into the wolfheaded people I already fucking had in this game.

>>52916617
Both are cancer.

>>52916617
/pfg/ should be nothing but lawful neutral OD/ZS men

>>52916714
Even worse than weebs desu

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>>52916573

Something tells me your scheming and strategic mind is already perfectly suited to the task of playing dumb.

>>52916714
You faggot, Chaotic Neutral Bushi/Brutal Slayers are obviously the way to go.

>>52916521
They are a bit unimpressive as a race.

>>52916765
>>52916676
>>52916573

I unironically love Etan memes.

>>52916772
>Brutal Slayer
fell right in the trap I see

>>52916617
>wanting furries over weebs
>wanting furries over anything
You've clearly not suffered through furry groups. Cearly.

>>52916682
Tell me more!

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>>52916369
You seem to be deluded as to what Rougarou are.

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>>52916785

>>52916455
... there's no such thing as a "yaoi hole", anon.
It's just an anus.

>>52916682
She canonically hangs out with her in the outer sphere I'm pretty sure.
I think there's also some mention of her fighting off other creatures from the outer sphere, which means she goes around punching out fucking great old ones.

>>52916837
Lame. Also redundant, a race exactly like that already exists.

>>52916843
i'm going to stretch your yaoi hole

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>>52916869

I guess they wanted a version that wasn't specifically cold-related.

>>52916617
Nigger I'm a double weeb and I know the OP is anime shit.

I mean I saved it, because I love kemonomimi shit, but it is only barely related to pathfinder.

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>>52916843
>>52916874

Where do I go to complain to Paizo, anons? The Vavakia Demon in Bestiary 6 is so fucking low res. It looks like a tiny jpeg that was enlarged to fit the page it's disgusting.

Also, all the art by Rayph Beisner sucks.

>>52916869
Yeah, and people were fucking frothing desperate to interpret Skinwalkers as animal eared weeb-bait too.

>>52916900
You totally could if you wanted to. It's a malleable race. However, there was no need for another race that was bipedal wolves.

>>52916900
i hate skinwalkers, they apparently look like shit half werewolves instead of looking like werewolves and being weaker,

>>52916899

Presumably, the Pazio website?

>>52916899
Also why aren't there any sexy Archdevils? Ugh.

>>52916887
Pointless. It's just furrybait.

>>52916929
Hey now, Mephistopheles could take me any day.

>>52916780
they're still better than changelings and they're more capable at start than a lot of other races. they're at least 13-15 points.

>>52916918
I hate that shit too, I just flavor it as the latter when I make Skinwalker PCs because why not.

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>>52916984
>Sodomizing with an agent of hell

Is leak anon gone? I had a few requests
Bloodybones
Gold Golem
Greenman
Obsidian Golem
Krampus
Oblivion
Ourboros
Varklops
Yarthoon
Btw I love you

>>52916929
I did miss Glasya being represented.

Arshea abilities make him/her lewd as fuark.
Paizo should do a +18 ERP themed AP.

>>52915679

Alright, so I'm new to Pf, but pretty well-versed in 3.5. A lot of big stuff stayed the same, but a lot of nuances changed. The game i was asked to play in is heavily houseruled: for example, he's using a truncated feat list that helps lessen feat tax on martial characters (found here http://michaeliantorno.com/feat-taxes-in-pathfinder/) Here's my character concept: A make Froglok (custom anthro frog person) ninja traveling with his two ninja brothers and getting into standard high fantasy adventures. I plan on maximizing sneak attack damage by denying DEX bonus (feinting mostly).

If the 9 allowable custom races, I chose Froglok because they get a whopping +6 DEX, along with bonuses to climbing and acrobatics. Fantastic for dex builds.

I'm going with Alchemist (Vivesectionist) because I like the options more than the unchained rogue, and on recommendation from you guys the other day. I'm fluffing extracts and mutagens as ninja arts.

And because my DM is batshit insane, he's allowing me to use Iaijutsu Focus from 3.0 Oriental Adventures. He was the one who brought it up, and I'm not going to argue over me getting extra sneak attack damage.

The feats I wanted to take were Quick Draw (bad, but he said I would have to take it to use Iaijutsu. Fair enough), Improved Initiative (obvious reasons) and Deft Maneuvers (which combines Improved Trip, Improved Disarm, Improved Dirty Trick, Improved Feint, Improved Reposition, Improved Steal into one feat)

I guess there could be a better way to do this kind of build, and I could always dip fighter, but this is what I came up with so far. With only one feat, I was a little worried, about being effective right off the bat, and I could stick with what I've got, or look for alternatives.

In the construction of Golems and other Constructs, is the minimum caster level something you can ignore for +5 to the DC?

>>52917049
ah you use elephant in the room feat taxes

good shit

>>52916984
I mean..sure..but we should have one of each at least. I miss Fierna/Glasya

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>>52917064
Yes. Unless it's a scroll or potion (or something mechanically identical) any prerequisite you fail out on is just a +5 to the DC you have to hit.

also, I recommend picking up a Golem manual. Technically, they cover the cost of all the golem's enchantments and construction fees - you just have to provide the raw materials (such as the overwhelmingly large block of pure iron you need for an iron golem

>>52917047
*Them anon

They're not lewd at all because they have no ability to actually change their biology. Succubus superior partner for being able to change for preference of partner.

did reviewanons die?

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>>52916369
>racial feat for at-will beast shape
>second racial feat to treat your ability as Beast Shape II so you can choose to be a large Woof, gated behind +16 BAB
>third feat lets you take Aspect of the Beast. No, it doesn't actually do anything on its own, nor does it let anything from AotB carry onto wolf form
>A shitty Magus Archetype that gives a Wolf Companion and doesn't actually change the class from being Int-based, making it entirely useless for Rougarou but potentially an entertaining memebuild option for other races

there, I gave you the Rougarou section of the supplement slated to come out in 2021 all about obscure races that Paizo didn't give a fuck about.

>>52917049

Well, you'll probably do alright. Might not pin your hopes on maneuvers, though-you're a 3/4 BAB class, so you're already at a disadvantage when it comes to beating CMD.

>>52917064
>>52917115
Not so - you can ignore the SPELLS for +5 DC, but not the minimum caster level. You MUST meet the caster level requirement for any magical item creation.

>>52916617
>>52916802
The reality is that weebs pirate all of their books because they're cynical and tech-savvy.

Furries on the other hand, have fueled an entire alternate porn industry to satisfy their bizarre and incomprehensible fetishes. Paizo would be insane to not want that furfag money, because furfags are also buyfags and comissionfags.

>>52917187
Furfags can rot

Are gnolls furry?

Is Greta a furry?

Aren't Kitsune technically furry too?

>>52917049
>frog
>ninja
But where are the teenage and mutant parts?!

>feinting

Feinting actually kind of sucks, because you have to burn actions on it repeatedly. The only good way to sneak attack in combat is to flank them (there are a bunch of things that enhance flanking, let you flank from different directions, etc), or use the Shatter Defenses feat, which lets you treat shaken, frightened, or panicked opponents as flat-footed when you hit them.

Note that while Shatter Defenses requires the enemy be affected by fear, it doesn't have to be fear caused by YOU. This makes for an excellent combo with any party member who gets Power Attack and Cornugon Smash, since they can start chopping through enemies and leaving them shaken/frightened and you can follow after and sneak attack them to death.

>Deft Maneuvers

One thing to keep in mind here is that 90% of the time, Dirty Trick is the best combat maneuver to focus on. It can give multi-round penalties, it doesn't depend on the enemy having a specific number of legs or using equipment, etc.

For more damage, look at the Piranha Strike feat, which is basically Power Attack for Dex builds.

>dip fighter

Don't do that. If you have to dip anything, use Vigilante, which can get you the vast majority of Fighter benefits and a lot more abilities besides, or Slayer, which is basically a fighter-rogue in one class.

>>52917237

Gnolls are furry.

Greta is not furry.

Kitsune are furry.

>>52917237
Yes
No
Only 1pp Kitsune

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>>52917237
Gnolls are not furries. Neither are kitsune unless played by kitsuneposter.

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>>52917254
>Kitsune are furry.

Correct!

>>52917168
It actually never says that.

anywhere.

It's just another prereq, and that means you can ignore it if you don't meet it.

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>>52917274

>>52917315

Was Shiguru the elder meme of characters?

>>52917283
I sit corrected, it is stated you can do exactly as you said.

>>52917315
>in ages past we had half a thread dedicated to going "dude what the fuck"
>nowadays, a character like this would just get people screaming "THIIIIICCCCCCC"

>>52917085
Yeah, they 're pretty good.

>>52917250
Well, he is mostly teenaged, probably in his late twenties by human standards, but about 13 actual years.

Do the Improved combat feats not allow you to use a move action to perform the maneuver? With my high burst damage (with a Katana, it should be 1d8+4d6+STR at level 1) I should be able to kill things fast enough.

I'll look into those feat suggestions. One of my "brothers" will be a Minotaur with a gigantic weapon of some kind, so he can be the one to set them up with fear and whatnot.

>>52917372
I bet that faggot started this.

You know the one

(you)

>>52917283
>>52917168
>The DC to create a magic item is 5 + the caster level for the item.
>The prerequisites for creation of an item are given immediately following the item’s caster level.

Notice the "immediately following". Caster level is NOT a prerequisite, it just sets the base DC. You can actually make an item at any caster level if you can make the DC.

>>52917372
Thiccfags are getting close to furry levels of annoyance.

>>52917382
Burning a move action every round becomes a huge problem as soon as you have iterative attacks, because to attack multiple times you need to use a full-round action. Note that sneak attack applies to EVERY qualifying attack you make, not just 1/round or whatever.

>>52917390
Not what we're talking about

CONSTRUCTION
Requirements Craft Construct, cloudkill, geas/quest, limited wish, polymorph any object, creator must be caster level 16th;
Skill Craft (armor) or Craft (weapons) DC 21; Cost 80,000 gp

>creator must be caster level 16th

>>52916369
Oh

>>52917400
ey man, I like my woman as voluptuous as they come, but an ass wide as an eighteen wheeler and tits the size of boulders are a /bit/ much don't you think?

>>52917431
"UUUUGHHH EXTRA THICCCER UUUUH" is what half of this general is. You don't see me shilling my fetishes around.

>>52917431

Thank you for saying what I've been saying too, now I know I'm not the only one that realizes there's a limit to how thicc a woman can get before it's just stupid.

I forgot some of the great old ones could be neutral. Seems weird given how they're commonly represented but hey.

>>52917416
I see. Maybe there's a 3.5 option I can use that gives me a combat maneuver as part of a move action or use teamwork feats (which we were already toying around with). But so far what I'm getting is that I should always count on combat maneuvers and look at a few other options, but at least the basic build and idea is solid.

>>52917419
that's still just a prerequisite added to the list, so it can be ignored with the right check.

>>52917509

Well, animals are neutral, but there's nothing stopping one from mauling you to death. And some of the Old Ones are so fucking alien and nebulous that killing you or driving you insane is completely non-malicious.

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>>52917469
>>52917467

THIS is a good amount of "thick", in my opinion, anything more is just plain silly.

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Any reviewanons hanging around that won't mind giving my app a look? Made some pretty serious changes to Aeshma and I just want to test the waters on the changes.

https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/4905558/applications-go-here/?pageforid=4930645#post-4930645

>>52917547
Should NOT always count on combat maneuvers.*

I really need to edit my posts better.

flat is justice

>>52917579

The breasts seem a tiny bit too big.

>>52917617
ey, can't have a perfect representation. I do think that elf gal is lovely- she's not all soft and voluptuous, she's got SOME muscle on her. Those thighs look dangerous to me

>>52917611

Oh yeah, then why do all the Blingmaker girls have large, hefty moneybags?

Except for Franze, she's a wildcard.

>>52917579
A "good" amount is not posting your fetishes. You post the "tame" stuff, and someone pushes the envelope a little more, changing what is tame. Or have you not seen the threads for the last 5 months?

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>>52917642
>Party full of evil PCs
>justice
:thinking:

>>52917265
Literally both of those are furries and the only people who say otherwise are those who are trying to keep the things they like "pure" from a stigma created by people that aren't even super widespread.

>>52917642
>Neutral evil

Question answered

>>52917115
How would you build something like pic related?

Summoner?

>>52916369
>rougarou
The best way to fix them is to simply not include them in a campaign. Much like Dwarves and Catfolk, they add nothing of value to any setting they are dropped into, and their best use is to serve as an early warning system for the players who would try to select them.

>>52917758
Unchained Summoner with an earth elemental eidolon would do it. Elemental Ally druid would also work.

>>52917790
CATFOLK ARE CUTE

CUUUTE

Alright, I've never played any mythic games and can't find any guides on them. What sort of build could kill charon?

>>52917818
literally anything mythic is retarded

>>52916430
Sounds neato. Any room for noobs? I've only played base Path before.

>>52917372
This is a change I'm happy with, to be honest.

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>>52917642
You'll never know what's under that breastplate of hers, Anon.

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>>52917814
Unless you're houseruling them into animu shit, catfolk are as cute as a khajiit, which is to say hairy and not cute at all.

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>>52917878
Wow, racist.

>>52917834
Care to give me a random example?

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>>52917878
>cute as Khajit
>when khajit can literally be anything
>when CATFOLK CAN LITERALLY BE ANYTHING

READ NIGGA. REEEEAAAAAAAAAD

>>52917617
Really? Any smaller and she'd look unbalanced. They're just right for her body.

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>>52917878

Khajiit will steal your heart, anon. Along with everything else.

>>52917878
i say they're CUTE

>>52917165
This is not the dark future we're walking down, it can't be!
I won't let it happen!

>>52917886
My opinion might be different if I had literally ever, in my life, had a player at my table who played a Catfolk and wasn't massively autistic about it.

>>52917910
Fair enough, I stand corrected in regards to their appearance, but I still feel that as a race they don't contribute anything unique or interesting to the world they are in.

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>>52917910

But anon, if catfolk are so diverse, why don't they have different ability bonuses?

>>52917969
Bloodforge infusions

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>>52917969
BUT ANON, IF THEY HAD DIFFERENT ABILITY SCORE MODIFIERS, THEN THEY WOULDN'T BE CATFOLK, JUST A BUNDLE OF STATS

AND YOU WOULDN'T WANT THAT, WOULD YOU

>>52917969
Paizo is a bunch of hacks, and Augunas needed his boner stroked by a nerdy librarian Kitsune

>>52912750
At first I thought the Turncoat archetype was just shit, because well, it is, but Track is shit and Stalker is only okay at best. Losing quarry hurts, but level 14, sometimes not even an issue in a full campaign. Basically it's shit but like, it's not just shit, it's shit that might be worth taking if you want to grab Clever Wordplay for Bluff and pretend to be a face.

>>52918034
The same kind of shit as Sword Saint?

"What I get isn't really any good, but the thing I'm giving up isn't really that crash-hot either so... ehhhhh"

>>52917964
Anon, you are free to have your experiences shape how you play, but I could say that I've never played with a Kineticist or Druid player that wasn't insufferable and still technically be justified.

>>52917964
>but I still feel that as a race they don't contribute anything unique or interesting to the world they are in.
This honestly, but that can be leveled against like 90% of races in the game.

>>52918066
Yeah. I was mad when I first read the archetype but after calming down and thinking it over, I could see playing one of these because when the fuck is track ever useful.

The roleplay potential of being suspicious of everything ever is pretty alright too.

>>52917594
>>52917547
Generally, dirty trick will always be useful (in part because it was written after the problems with the others became more obvious), but most of the other combat maneuvers have a lot of problems. Enemies with large sizes/multiple legs get bonuses vs trip (and that's most of them, at higher levels), enemies without weapons can't be disarmed, enemies with large sizes/extra limbs get bonuses vs grapple... You get the idea.

>>52918066
IMO, Sword Saint would be better if Iaijutsu Strike wasn't attached to Challenge. Either making it so you have to start the turn unthreatened and with your weapon sheathed, or once per encounter, or just about anything is better IMO.

>>52918113
A fact I've been realizing, and as a result I've been pruning a lot of pointless races from my setting. Honestly it's been great, it's way easier to build cultural differences and such when you're not trying to come up with a culture for any humanoid with an int of 7+. Currently I'm down to Humans, Elves, Orcs, Gnomes, Kobolds, and Troglodytes.
The more standard-issue races you can trim from your setting, the better the setting is likely going to be. Keeping all the base races makes every world feel like a LotR ripoff, and allowing any balanced race the players ask for makes any world feel like some senseless kitchen sink.

>>52918113
Even more of the core races are just kinda there.
"Sanos forest has gnomes in it, I guess. Maybe if you go there we're put a gnome NPC into the game, but otherwise, fuck it."

So I read that you're supposed to multi-class after reaching level 5 in gunslinger.
Why is this?
What class should you multiclass into to stay effective until about level 8-9?

>>52918201
IMO, it's easier to make Gnomes interesting than it is to make Dwarves interesting. Gnomes are portrayed as anything from mischievous pseudo-hobbits to tinkers to NOT!Faeries, whereas pretty much all Dwarves in all settings are hardly anything more than Tolkien Dwarves with the serial numbers filed off.

>>52917876

Of course we will! Through greentext!

>>52918223
Personally I find gnomes to be kender-lite.
No one knows how to play the little shits without being little shits.

>>52918260

>Join a campaign
>Someone's playing a Gnome
>They put on the Gnome voice

[LEAVE GAME]

>>52918139
That's the thing.

People look at an archetype and see what it can do, and are disappointed when it isn't impressive.

But when it comes down to it, you want an even trade. Unless the class is shit and needs a boost, but in that case, a holding pattern still isn't BAD.

>>52918192
Sword Saint could be notably improved, yeah. Personally, I'd probably make the limit a 1/person/combat thing, but let you choose to challenge them as part of the action.

Or heck, what you could do is make it REPLACE challenge. Make your Iaijutsu be a single hit rather than challenge's continual thing, but make it triple your level or something. Or double initially, then x3 when you get your second iterative and so on, up to x5 your level. Or even if you don't wanna replace it, still make the strike a bigger flat modifier rather than a single hit of sneak attack damage. 10d6 is an average of +30, which isn't that great on one attack.

And a note that you can apply Vital Strike to it.

Can a bounty hunter perform dirty tricks on ranged attacks with their sneak attack conversion?

>>52918201
Honestly, I think it applies MORE to the core races than the other one.
>>52918192
This man fucking gets it.

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Wouldn't Wildstar be the perfect analogue for Starfinder?

>>52918209
Multiclass at level 0 into Gunsmoke Mystic instead of taking any Gunslinger levels at all.

>>52918325
Wildstar is perfect in many ways (lol I wish), that may be one of them. I actually worked on that game before launch, I love it to bits despite its problems.

>>52918333
>mystic recovery
Ew no.

>>52918325
>Wildstar
>intricate character mechanics that just add up to damage procs
>elaborate dress-up system
>mindless grinding of mobs
>terrible toxic playerbase

Yeah, that sounds about right.

>>52918325
I liked how their response to people upset about the titloli aliens was to give them a breast slider with a new maximum larger than the old default.
That's where my wildstar knowledge ends.

>>52918325

>Implying that we will have to share a galaxy with pissy little rebels, idiot rock people, flesh-eating zombies, and disgusting tree-huggers

What a terrifying thought, anon.

>>52918325
I'm at the very least hoping that the tech weaponry you can get in Starfinder is decent. they have a poor track record with that sort of thing.

>>52918357
Wait, seriously?

That's hilarious.

>>52918315
That's basically it.

Like, how many races have had influence on the world of Golarion?

What have elves done? What have dwarves done? And then what have the fucking Gnomes done? Kobolds? Lizardfolk?

Most of the time they never even show the fuck up, let alone be relevant. Humans, elves, half-elves. Occasionally a dwarf or gnome or halfling. The occasional tiefling.

That's about it.

If Leakanon is still about I'd be grateful for the Qlippoth and their lords, the psychopomps, the sea worms, and the new dragons.

>>52918410
ALL THE GUNS WILL HAVE CHARGES PER DAY AND WHEN YOU RECHARGE THEM YOUR BATTERY MIGHT BLOW UP

>>52918446
Don't give them ideas, you fucker.

>>52918446
>>52918410

Medieval and earlier gear is simple weapons, Tech gear and up is Martial.

Exotic doesn't exist.

>>52918192
If it's your own seeing, feel free. If it were a random paizo AP set in golarion I'd find it Lane, since the only redeeming thing about those is how many dumb options the system has to play with. Kitsune immigrant who's family friends with the Kaijitsus for Jade Regent? Tiefling turbonerd who's super into "archeology" for Shattered Star? Catfolk... Uhh... Virtuous Bravo I guess? Catfolk are kinda shit actually.

People who complain about a custom setting not having a race are retards though.

>>52918446
iirc blowing up your own guns only applies in PF to the "timeworn" ones, which is probably all of them not crafted by a PC.
Odds are Starfinder is going to give us less shit mechanics.

>>52918498
Well not 'blow up'

But any time you recharge a battery, there's a 10% chance it just fucking breaks.

Because fuck you.

>>52918498
Given high-tech weaponry and armor is meant to be the norm, I imagine your average laser rifle is going to be about as accessible as a masterwork longbow is in Pathfinder.

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>>52918325

Stat the Aurin. DO IT!!!

>>52918192
To elaborate on what I'm doing with the races, just for shits:
-Elves used to have a big jungle-island empire that they leveraged into a near monopoly over sea trade. Shit happened during the Hell Wars, the ones on the island got cursed into nerfed medusas, modern Elves are the descendants of the fleets, with Northern Elves being more racist / having more of a superiority complex than southern Elves.
-Humans have a widespread territory towards the south, and have largely taken over the Elven trade routes following the collapse of their Empire.
-Orcs aren't a young people but have a young history since they don't really record it and instead rely on oral histories, but they like embellishment and exaggeration so their histories get more wrong the further back you go. Masks are a huge part of their tribal structure, with certain mask motifs denoting tribal allegiance and such. As such, The Mask is largely synonymous with The Tribe, and any Orc worth his mettle will fight to bring glory to the Mask. If you weren't getting it yet, they take a lot of inspiration from Lucha Libre. They have a lot of stories about heroes suplexing demons and shit.
-The Troglodytes, until very recently, were the lords of a large underground kingdom. That got all fucked up during the Hell Wars, their slaves rebelled, and the kingdom collapsed. It's not gone, but their cities are largely in ruins and they've lost control of most of them, leaving them as little more than dungeon monsters in their ancestral halls.
-Gnomes are mountain dwellers who formed a large Ninja tradition while defending their territory against the better equipped, numerically superior Trogs.
-Kobolds made up the brunt of Trog slaves, and were used for digging and disposable combat troops. Since the fall of the Underkingdom, the Kobold have begun utilizing their own style of ninja arts, based off the Gnomish methods they've been forced to fight against and their own elemental heritage.

I need the picture of that one medieval guy in that style you see in the memes where the bull is farting or some shit and the guy is blocking his face, and the caption says "I REFUSE THE INFLUENCE OF ANIME"

I promise you guys I'll give you something good

>>52918539
+2 Cha for titloli bods, +2 Dex because they're just like that, -2 Str or Con because fuck it I can't decide.
+2 perception because stupid ears, maybe Some sort of bonus to athletics for the purpose of jumping? Not that anyway ever uses or benefits from such features but I remember them jumping stupid high compared to their body size.
I think they were the token treehugger race so toss in +2 knowledge nature and it's always a class skill.

>>52918498

I want to customize my weapon throughout the campaign and call it Vera!

Who wants to try to homebrew the entothropes into new skinwalker variants?

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>>52917579
>archer
>breasts

I want to kiss Lucious' imouto on her lower lips.

>>52918695
Look man, maybe she binds them.

she's still a good-looking gal

Is there a way to play largestronk tiger anthro that isn't shitty third party?

>>52918695

its more likely than you think

>>52918539
+2 Wis, +2 Dex, -2 Int. Aurin are agile and naturally in tune with nature, but they are prone to distraction and only very rarely show advanced aptitude for high-technology.

High Jump: Aurin are always treated as having a running start when making Acrobatics checks to jump.

I'd probably also give them Gnome Magic, and swap Ghost Sound for Speak with Plants.

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>>52918740

Throw in a few FCBs for Ranger, psion and druid. Stick a fork in her she's done.

>>52918716

Those are 1.2 Onryou, you can't bind tits that big.

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>>52918821

i'd say they're on par, not bigger.

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>>52918695
why are you talking about things you clearly know nothing about?

>>52918539

-2 STR (for weak tree-hugging arms), +2 DEX (for tricky tree-hugger sneaking), -6 CON (for inability to survive particularly long in slave camps), -6 INT (for minimal sapience)

>>52918864

Those breasts are half the size of the one you quoted.

So, question. If I were to run a campaign where the players are in a crusade against the fiendish planes, and the end goal was for them to fight the archfiends, horsemen, and demon lords (not necessarily at the same time, obviously), would Mythic be a good idea? Or should I just stick to standard Epic rules, and have them go past level 20?

>>52918901
Probably just do epic advancement, mythic fucks with the rules a lot.

>>52918901

Don't mythic beings get a lot of bonuses and resistances that make it extremely difficult for nonmythic beings to kill them?

>>52918901
I might actually let certain players go mythic and others go epic based on their builds. Sorry if that's a none answer.

>>52918821
Okay fine, I can concur. You can at least compress them down and keep them from bouncing around.

I'll probably play a voluptuous half-elf archer girl in the next /pfg/ game that comes up, to be honest

Hello. I am new to pathfinder and I have made my first character. Or well the backstory and everything. They are a tiefling cavalier 10th level. Order of the shield.

Problem is I suck at actually dealing with the crunch and have need help with the mechanical side of the game and I've been stressing out because the others have already finished their sheets. Would you be willing to help me if I showed you the game sheet and the pastebin with my character in it? As well as the character generation rules? Id really appreciate it.

>>52918920
Could you elaborate on that some more. Who gets mythic and who doesn't?

>>52918924
Break the mold. Play a big-tiddy archer who went full Amazon and chopped off a boob.

>>52918932
Give us something to work with and I'm sure someone will take a stab at it.

>>52918932

Yeah, that's pretty much the stuff we ask for to help with character generation.

>>52918884
Doesn't matter, as the effect is the same - proper form means that breast size isn't an issue.

>>52918917
Yes. Mythic beings also tend to have things that are autosuccess unless the target is also mythic, at which point you actually get a save.

The average person is LITERALLY INCAPABLE of preventing Drakainia from xenomorphing a baby down your throat. Level 20? Doesn't matter.

Congratulations. It's an abomination.

>>52918953
It kind of depends on the class combos and their tier even if thats a naughty word around here. Like some of the mythic spells get fucking ridiculous and on top of that both acrhmage and hierophont have an ability to just spontaneously cast any spell unprepared by spending power, which is fucking nuts. Giving casters just higher levels, maybe adjusting how many new slots they get and maybe letting them cast certain types of mythic spells should work. More martial characters on the other hand kind of need things like surge and the various path abilities if you aren't using PoW

>>52918956

Breaking the mold would actually playing a big titty archer.

>>52918932
It might help if you use like, Mythweavers or something to store your character sheet.

Has places for everything rather than a pastebin where if you forget something there's no empty space to remind you to check.

>>52919012
I suppose you'd have to define if you meant the mold of reality or the mold of tabletop tropes.

>>52919035

The mold of tabletop tropes, since every archer girl I recall from fiction is lithe, slender, and a redhead.

>>52919008
Oh I should not, the archmage and hierophont spontaneous cast powers don't require you to actually know the spell, just be able to cast it, and they dont use up any spell slots.

>>52919053
You must have better luck with parties than I do, if you don't have to listen to fat gross dudes mouthbreath while talking about how their Elf girl's leather breastplate strains the seams as she draws an arrow or whatever.

I want to talk setting lore, guys. With Blingmaker rolling out soon I'm wondering who would actually win in a civil war in Brevoy between Issia and Rostland, assuming no intervention from the PCs. Rostland has the swordlords but Issia has armies, presumably this is a case of quality versus quantity respectively. There's also the issue that with Brevoy as it currently is and with Surtova leading the nation, House Orlovsky might actually not side with Issia if they think the war could dethrone House Surtova. At least, they might decide to remain neutral, which would reduce the numbers advantage of Issia. Also worth considering is that the the capital of Brevoy is actually in the middle of Rostland, giving the swordlords and Rostlandic houses an advantage of home turf. On the other hand, Rostland also has an unsecured southern border.

>>52918901
Not him, but on a slightly related note how would the various powers that be react to something like this?
I mean sure it's dumb and probably wouldn't actually ever happen in setting, but how would the gods and other sorts of factions react to some epic human heroes laying smack downs on a bunch of evil demigods?

People are trying to argue the validity of huge boobers when used with a bow, but we all know you're just grasping at an excuse to have a fap character like a desperate chump.

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>>52918621
>>52918740

now stat the draken

>>52918864
That's a very different bow than the one the mcdonalds addicted elf is using.

Thank you.

https://pastebin.com/DZ6xmY0V Paste bin for character.

https://pastebin.com/ Pastebin for character template as it is unbearably long.

Character generation rules:

3). Level ---
Characters will begin play at level 10. All characters will receive maximum hit points at 1st level and a set amount of HP at every other level depending on their class HD. Drop fractions after totaling.
CLASS HD HP PER LEVEL
d6 4.5
d8 6
d10 7.5
d12 9

4). Traits ---
As per the Pathfinder rules. Characters will get two (2) traits for free at Character Creation. Traits must come from two different categories Players cannot take traits from the various Pathfinder Campaign Paths, or 3rd-Party Traits. Players may not take drawbacks. The Additional Traits feat may be taken to gain extra traits.

5). Equipment ---
Characters start with 60000 gp for equipment and magical items. The costs for items are the standard costs in the PFSRD.
Characters with item creation feats may not make any magic (or mundane) items at character creation. Characters may buy whatever equipment they can afford (with the exception of cursed or intelligent items) but I will ban items that I consider overpowered. Only one stat-enhancing item per character.
Characters with spells/formulae/etc can choose spells from the following sources: Core Rulebook, Advanced Players Guide, Advanced Class Guide, Advanced Race Guide (but spells created by your race only), Ultimate Combat and Ultimate Magic.

10). Feats ---
Most Pathfinder feats are available; then again, optimize your character with funky combinations of these and your character will be rejected. Leadership is banned. These are the rules that are relevant to you guys.

>>52919204
Yeesh, one of these games. What kind of point-buy are you using?

>>52919114
There's really not enough lore about either side to say what their military strength is, so who knows? Besides you discount the PCs but the PCs are really what should be deciding the war. At least in Blingmaker.

>>52919250
What do you mean by that?

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>>52918733
Anyone?

I remember reading somewhere that Cold Resistance 1+ makes you immune to environmental cold stuff and the same for fire resistance and environmental heat stuff, but I can't seem to find it now. Anyone know where it is?

>>52919307
Get your furry shit out of here.

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>>52919307
Largestonk tiger man that's not shitty third party?

>>52919129
And slightly related, how much angelic pussy could one get?

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>>52919328
>wanting to play anything other than a human

Get out of here otherkin trash

>>52919148
+4 Strength, –2 Intelligence, –2 Wisdom, and –2 Charisma. Draken are not people you want to get in a fistfight with, everyone knows this. Equally well known is the fact that Draken are not, by any metric, the sharpest tools in the shed, nor can you take them anywhere nice.

Divided Attention (+1 Dodge AC against enemies who flank them): Draken fight from a young age, and even the weakest among them knows how to defend themselves against multiple attackers.

Horns of Dominus: Draken gain a Gore attack as a natural weapon, dealing 1d6+str points of piercing damage.

>>52919251
Why would they flesh Brevoy out when they've got a dozen other more interesting places in Golarion than Fantasy Poland? It's bland and stereotypical, and that's LITERALLY IT'S POINT in a setting where ever nation has its own gimmick or theme. Hopefully Wubu does something more interesting with Brevoy.

>>52919280
You're given a budget of points, usually between 15 and 25, and you use them to buy up your character's ability scores. Sometimes you'll be asked to use an array, or roll for stats. If your game is doing the latter, I'd suggest just abandoning ship.

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>>52919353

>>52919353
Why would you ever play anything but human? Best at every class, bonus feat, bonus skills, no DM will ever turn you down

>>52918733
>>52919307
>>52919312
See http://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamemastering/environment/environmental-rules/

>Extreme heat (air temperature over 140° F, fire, boiling water, lava) deals lethal damage. Breathing air in these temperatures deals 1d6 points of fire damage per minute (no save). In addition, a character must make a Fortitude save every 5 minutes (DC 15, +1 per previous check) or take 1d4 points of nonlethal damage. Those wearing heavy clothing or any sort of armor take a –4 penalty on their saves.

>Extreme cold (below –20° F) deals 1d6 points of lethal damage per minute (no save). In addition, a character must make a Fortitude save (DC 15, +1 per previous check) or take 1d4 points of nonlethal damage.

By pure RAW, if you have at least resistance 6 to fire/cold, you're completely immune to any temperature short of being directly coated in ice/set on fire. Most DMs allow resistance 5 to count for this just to make things a little cleaner.

What're my options for playing a trick shooting character?

>>52919387
fighter/gunslinger/mystic

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>>52919372
>>52919353
>>52919336
>>52919307

>>52919376
Because as much as I like vanilla, sometimes I enjoy more interesting flavors too, and I can always count of there being vanilla as an option at a later point.

Also if I wanted to RP a human that went and learned to use a sword, I would simply go and learn to use a sword.

>>52919307
>>52918733
Weretiger-kin skinwalker.

+2 Dex, -2 Wis, +2 Cha while shapechanged
+2 on Acrobatics and Perception
Jump SLA 1/day
Change shape at will to be a tiger-man and get one off a list of special abilities (claws, see in darkness, etc)

>>52919307
>>52919336

Agathion aasimar. Now calm down.

>>52918733
>>52919307
Literally either Catfolk Barbarian, Agathion-Aasimar, Weretiger-Skinwalker, or Rakshasha-Tiefling.

Any and all of those, when combined with an appropriately HUGE class and base stats, works just fine

Literally would've taken you two seconds perusing the ARG or 5 minutes on the SRD

>>52919364
I was given an erray or could to choose to roll stats.. I chose to roll stats got fairly nice stats.
The stats are in the template paste in I put them in places where I thought it was character appropriate.

>>52919408
Furry

>>52919387
Gunslinger deeds are all about doing fancy shit with a gun. Or crossbow, if you go bolt ace. Take the signature deed feat and/or have high wisdom if you want to do it more than usual.

>>52919387
Play a PoW warlord, hawkguard warder (you can base almost everything off Int and Dex), or gunsmoke mystic, and take Tempest Gale maneuvers, which give you a bunch of stuff like ranged combat maneuvers and enhanced range for thrown/small weapons.

is leakanon gone? Are we getting more bestiary leaks?

>>52919129
I'd guess for the first one or two there's just celebration, as that sort of thing happens every couple thousand years or so. If they actually start making headway though it might spur certain people onto an all out good vs evil war, gods and all.

>>52919251
>>52919363

Issia has stated armies in Book 6, explicitly for when the cold war gets hot.

>>52919431
You say this to the guy who will laugh before immediately rejecting any character sheet listing the race as any kind of animal-folk.

>>52918325
I will say, I really liked the Drakken and the Mechari in Wildstar.

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>>52919501

Yeah, they were pretty cool.

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How many of you actually use Golarion as your setting? Do you enjoy homebrewing up a setting? Do you prefer Golarion's kitchen sink approach to things like Eberron or Rokugan? What's your favorite region of Golarion? Things you like and dislike about it?

What's the best way to build a setting, starting with one town/place?

>>52919486
Not Rostland, though? Why would Paizo bother statting Issia's armies but not Rostland's? Makes no sense. But I still think it's reasonable to assume Issia has better or at least larger armies than Rostland, so those would give us a sense of scale to compare to if we tried to make armies of our own to represent Rostland.

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>>52919529
>mfw female Mechari

I never asked for this but I'm not gonna complain.

>>52919427
That second pastebin link doesn't go to a sheet friendo. I'll echo what >>52919013 said and recommend using mythweavers for your character sheet.

>>52919557
Eberron is a kitchen sink too, though. It's a just a vaguely post-WW1 themed kitchen sink (aka Indiana Jones adventures) rather than a vaguely renaissance-themed kitchen sink.

I suppose ill be back in a few hours. Checking for any updates or questions occasionally.

>>52919204
>>52918932
posts for information for helping me above.

>>52919557
Golarion introduced some ideas I liked and unashamedly stole (hamatulatsu, conceptually) but I don't feel like the setting itself is worth playing in. Homebrew is, imo, where the best campaigns happen, though more specialized settings are also pretty good. I'm a fucking pathetic nerd for Eberron.

For building a setting, I find starting small and working out produces better results. I like to do a conceptual world map, something to give me an idea of where things go without committing anything down, and then as the players progress through I develop and expand upon the regions they're moving towards / through.

>>52919486
>>52919563
You say that like the mass combat rules should actually be used to figure this out. They're not just dumb, they're also wildly swingy.

>>52919557
I use Golarion. I also have a couple incomplete homebrew settings, one of which I incorporated into a campaign I ran as a huge demiplane the PCs explored during later parts of the campaign.

The kitchen sink approach ends up making Golarion's nations feel like setting unto themselves when you run a campaign in them in my experience. Like, you could practically forget the nations other than the one you're playing in exist, and you probably do in order to keep a sense of verisimilitude in your game.

>>52919557
I use the gods out of it, that's it. I'm not sticking my toe into someone else's story. I'd rather write my own adventure.

>>52919563

Rostland has statted armies too, though you're supposed to assume the PC kingdom is going to supply the bulk of the forces.

How are PF martial classes compared to D&D5e?

>>52919580
Heres the fixed template.
https://pastebin.com/pMLsAwGm

>>52919668
Not sure about 5e, but martials are awesome compared to 3.X

>>52919557

The Land of the Linnorm Kings is perhaps the greatest region in both terms of theme, in terms of adventuring opportunities and in terms of internal consistency.

>>52917642
She can be my wildcard any time

>>52919668
Depends on how you define martials

>>52919698
People who deal physical damage instead of casting spells?

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What happens when a horla forces someone to go out and whore themselves while sleepwalking?

Surely that's a destructive act that sabotages a social life?

>>52918257
Who do you ship Franze with, /pfg/?

>>52919698
Fighters, monks, rogues, barbarians

>>52919665
What, in a civil war between Rostland and Issia? When the PC's kingdom is practically a step away from just being a small Rostlandic colony?

You answered my question but it just leaves me with more. Sasuga, Paizo.

>>52919689
Franze is not for lewd! Pick literally any other girl in the party if you want lewd.

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>>52919573

Just remember you have an uphill battle.

>>52919707
I dunno, I consider Paladins and Rangers to be martial. Meager spellcasting that's basically a side feature. that's it.

>>52919723
You think that's bad? Exile side has Granok with Aurin. /d/ would approve.

>>52919708
Fuck Rape Brain there, they actually statted the four horsemen? In what capacity are they used?

>>52919668
It's kind of a weird answer. Everything in PF is stronger than it is in 5e, so taken to extremes, a properly built martial in PF is going to be killing things much faster and have more broad effectiveness here than it does in 5e. Relative to the rest of the game though, martials in Pathfinder are a lot weaker than properly built caster sorts than the 5e counter-parts are to theirs.

As far as gameplay options go on the topic of 1pp, martials in Pathfinder are deceptively similar. Most of them tend to play very similarly with a few exceptions, you take a small step and you fire off your attacks. I find martials in 5e much more satisfying to play personally, but the amount of small tweaks you can make it Pathfinder might be more accommodating depending on what you expect from your martials.

>>52919557
>Dumb Atheists

Explain. How does atheism exist in a setting with actual moving and shaking gods?

>>52919711
None of the other PCs, really. I can see her having a charming time with Andrik and Kyras, sitting down for tea with them while chatting, but not really dating. It's kind of hard to see Franze dating anybody, DESU. I think it would have to be an NPC who is an older man her age, one who has had his adventures and is ready to settle down. He's looking to improve the community now, and mostly but not entirely agrees with Franze's visions for how that should happen.

>>52919716
The girl I want to lewd isn't in the party. She's running the game!

>>52919767
Stated the archdevils too. They're just there so the PCs can fight them, I guess. And probably get their asses kicked.

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>>52919708
>mfw that filename

>>52918924
Can I apply as her sullen, scholarly half-elf brother? I'm thinking Dark Tapestry Oracle.

>>52919801
It's atheism of the "I don't think the gods are worth worshiping, at best they're falliable just like the rest of us." variety

>>52919351
Honestly if you're THAT good you could probably swing a three way with sheyln and calestra

>>52919191
>mcdonalds addicted elf

RIP in pieces Nugget King

>>52919810
It's certainly possible. How'd we fluff it though? Rambunctious archer girl or Avowed and snarky occultist brother?

>>52919801
"Fuck divine authority, mortals should rule mortals" I believe.

>>52919716
>>52919806

I kind of want to see Franze sharing tea with the other female PCs and subtly encouraging one or two of them to try and shack up with Andrik and Kyras, and then do the same when drinking with them.

>>52919819
Don't forget the whole witchburning/euphoric crusade thing they have going on.

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>>52919741

>Sleeping with an aurin

>>52919671
Those are indeed some nice stats. Here's a short list of basic tips:

Cavalier is a fairly weak class, and I think you could probably do better with a paladin or even a fighter. If you want to stay with it that's fine as well, but you should be aware of its weaknesses.

Power Attack is basically a must for any melee combatant.

You're going to want Combat Reflexes and a reach weapon. Stem the Tide is Order of the Shield's strongest feature, and you should try to make the most of it. It might be best to just use a lance, as you're going to want one anyway and you'll save a bit on weapons.

Cavalier's major shtick is the mounted charge. Your chances to actually do so are probably going to be limited, but it is still probably worthwhile to pick up the Mounted Combat + Ride-By Attack + Spirited Charge package. Whenever it's viable, you want to be charging people on your horse with a lance. While you can use it in one hand while mounted, you should use two hands.

A level 10 start means Tactician will actually be in a usable state, so put some thought into your choice of teamwork feats. Bonded Mind is a personal favorite for (Ex) telepathy with your group. Outflank and Precise Strike are decent combat options. If you have any other melee characters in your party, you're going to want to Coordinated Charge at 11, or earlier if retraining is allowed.

>>52919716
>Franze is not for lewd! Pick literally any other girl in the party if you want lewd

What if I am another girl in the party?

>>52919869
>>52919819
Aethist souls get fed to Groteus in Pathfinder, right? Sorta like the Wall of Souls?

>>52919806
Wubu is ALSO NOT FOR LEWD.

>>52919841
I wonder if he would have gotten in the game if DBH hadn't pulled out.

>>52919716

The civil war happens when Choral the Conqueror comes back, and declares war upon Rostland for raising their banners against Surtova and the Dragonscale Throne.

Rostland is statted, Issia is statted, and the hoard of Choral is one of the most delightfully detailed things I've ever seen.

mythweavers sheet:
https://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1190831

pastebin with backstory:https://pastebin.com/DZ6xmY0V

>>52919204
Character generation rules.

I hope this helps.

>>52919887
Nonono, you've got it wrong, I'd be the one looking for the Granok in that equation.

>>52919351

You'd probably marry a Nymph queen or Hamadryad, and the one who does a big favor to Shelyn might earn her favor... Even a SMOOCH! On the LIPS!

>>52919959
Slow pls

>>52919959
Shelyn is remaining chaste until Zon-Zon takes her.

>>52919902
I picked it for mainly roleplaying reasons and the fact I find the idea cool. But I don't think id be able to do the telepathy thing. I think the gm would be metaphorically staring at me and asking me how the hell my character can do this.

So the feats and the like would have to fit with her backstory.

>>52919842
Sounds cute already. What sort of upbringing do we like? Towns are versatile, because you can reach innawoods but still study things somewhere and participate in economy and society.

>>52919969

What? Angels aren't in the business of marriage, I'm just listing high-level creatures of exceeding loveliness that could become wives.

Nymph queens are Nyrissa-tier and often the consorts of Eldest, while Hamadryads, while not the most powerful of female fae, are the most powerful while being noted as marrying or being from families with Erlkings.

Shelyn is just a smoocher, she's a precious cinnamon bun that needs us to protect her smile.

>>52919959
>Shelyn
>sex

Nope, you get a complimentary painting. A dance if you're lucky. Not a lapdance either.

>>52919989
Just tell him you're an anime character with the ability to let your allies hear your inner monologue.

>>52919919
>Wubu is ALSO NOT FOR LEWD.

Wubu is for heartfelt respect and regard!
Praise Wubu!

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>>52919946

>Being an aurin

>>52920015
I have a feeling they wouldn't find that very funny.

Were there any Dominion of the Black creatures in Bestiary 6?

>>52920006
>Angels aren't in the business of marriage
Assimar and half celestial beg to differ

>>52919878
Wouldn't a LE encourage all the girls to go for the same man to test their mettle AND to encourage the rejected man to step his game up?

>>52919878
Yeah, same here. She seems too motherly to be looking for love herself, so it would have to find her if it's going to happen. But that also makes her a great matchmaker!

>>52919905
Get out of here, Branwen! Go back to counting your coins, I have my eyes set on the shameless slut running your game.

>>52919922
Where are they statted? How tough is Choral?

>>52920001
I'm not really certain? Larger towns could work. Maybe a large clan- divided between being INNAWOODS and INNATOWN, with the pair coming from the two sides of the family? An occultist who hoards neat things and some kind of Skald/Bard girl who lives innawoods and hunts things? And the two of them have to work together to pay for an apartment?

>>52920038
Small enough that I feel like I'm running and not casually strolling out of the way of enemy fire, and big enough that I'm clearly better than some disgusting Chua.

>>52919989
>asking me how the hell my character can do this
>how the hell

Point to the word Tiefling on your sheet and then flip him the bird

>>52920020
I'm going to give Wubu heartfelt respect and regard! I'm just also going to give her something else, something hard and throbbing! I did it. I actually sent her a PM. Maybe this won't end badly.

>>52920089
Cute! I like it. Saving it in my idea bank. Not really a good campaign for them right now.

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>The archdevil thats responsible for guarding the gates of hell is five feet
FUCKING
MANLETS

>>52919989
>telepathy
Bonded mind isn't telepathy, anon is being a faggot.

Bonded mind is you having a bond so strong with another person you can just look at them and communicate very basic ideas.

You're really good at body language.

>>52920138
You need professional help, Anon.

>>52920119
Wouldent you have to be a variant tiefling for that to work?

>>52919974
LIES AND SLANDER.

>t. Zon-Kuthon

>>52920146
It's in my idea banks too, potentially as NPCs for a comfy campaign

>>52919974
>implying he's literally ever going to get past his IT'S NOT A PHASE MOM and actually man up
Dude is literally every single edgy oc ever created rolled into one.

>>52919974
Zon-Zon is meant for Bon-Bon!

>>52920167
It is kinda funny though, you could put an Inquisitor or Fighter with Fighter's Tactics up in a hot air balloon or something so they can see everyone, then direct a battlefield. Although that might be pushing it.

What would NOT be pushing it though, is you could take it on an inquisitor and be completely silent, just 'speaking' nonverbally to anyone who wants to listen. Be the stupidly imposing, stupidly scary man who never says a word.

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>>52920207
>edgelords
>Lawful

>>52919905
Then invite one or both of the party's men back to your tent.

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>>52920154
I didn't fucking believe if but my god
I'm the shortest person I know and I'm nearly a foot taller

>>52920284
Show me them Amazons, anon.

>>52920138
You better tell us what happens when she replies so we can finally see if she really is the shameless slut the rumors say.

>Darklands book
>Natural Pathseeker and Terrain Celerity
Is it me, or is this basically mandatory now for Rangers?

>>52920063

Nope, a LE would carefully select the ideal pairs, and make damn sure they get together, whether it's through creating sensual situations or slipping powerful aphrodisiacs into their food or drink.

Men or women who get in the way will, at best, find their prospective partner dump them after unsettling rumors about them crop up. At worst, they'll get poison in their porridge.

>>52920058

Aasimar are created by half-celestials or divine radiation or even leal service to a god or goddess. Half-Celestials are the real deal made by the two backed beast, but sex doesn't mean marriage.

>>52920253
It's limited as per the message spell so no.

>>52920329
What do those two do again?

>>52919905
That just makes it easier to play down in the morning.

>>52920261
This makes me think though... How would one do a Lawful Neutral Z-K cleric?

>>52920360
Pathseeker gives you half your Fav.Terrain bonus to Acrobatics, Climb, and Swim

Celerity is 5ft movement speed while in Fav.Terrain, and increases to 10ft if your Fav.Enemy is nearby

>>52920261
>implying edgy doesn't come in all flavors

>>52920418
>edgy came in your favorite flavour
I demand to speak to the manager!

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>>52920118

There are those who would disagree. Who also built giant robots to strip-mine the homeworlds of rebel sympathizers. Sympathizers who once thought nature powers could beat giant robots.

Some argument for and against, really.

>>52920138
You're a strange one, lad.

>>52920337
Franze confirmed for eugenics program?

>>52920416
That doesn't sound like that big of a deal. I could see myself taking the second one, but it's not that much of a step up over Fleet and nobody ever takes that.

>>52920443

Look, anon, some of those flavors are seasonal. There's nothing we can do.

>>52919668

I run a 5e game and find the class balance to be generally good, though we're not yet at the upper tiers of play (and probably never will be because I'm super stingy on exp).

Melee types can more reliably do everything. Fighters can add combat maneuvers as add-ons to their regular attacks reasonably often, which makes them far more interesting, throwing away the action economy debate in favor of spending resources instead. Rogues don't even need a flank, just a helper. Casters are substantially weaker (but still quite good), making mundane skills and fast-recovery options more attractive. Feats are much less of a train wreck, since they did away with feat chains being required to be effective, and they tend to be one-off bonuses used to better customize your character now.

>>52920477

>Eugenics program

Every LE needs a hobby, anon.

>>52920458
Chua would still be weird primitive rodents if the Mechari hadn't technologically bootstrapped them up. Even then, Chua would have killed themselves if the Mechari hadn't come back and given them a way off their ruined smog-ball of a planet.

Chua are undeserving rodents who have not earned their place in the stars. The are just Mechari lab rats with delusions of grandeur.

>>52919351
Well would you look at that arshea got stats in the same book.

>>52920545
DESU Franze strikes me as more LN than LE. Like, she's got an "ends justify the means" sort of thing going on but she doesn't seem like she'd do anything evil just because and considering her goals seems like she'd be pretty selfless. She feels like the kind of neutral you get when you balance out good deeds with evil deeds.

/tg/ I have been fucked trying to understand how to mix natural and manufactured attacks.

If I have a bab of +6/+1 and 3 natural attacks can I make two manufactured attacks then my 3 natural ones (treated as secondary)?

>>52920544
Would you say they're better for different types of game though? What I've heard is that, while 5e is better balanced, it doesn't do high-power games well or "realistically", partially because of bounded accuracy.

>>52920598
>Arshea
>Because your DM wouldn't let you play a cleric of Calistria

I'm gonna bust my wad on her face when I kill her!

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>>52920573

Yeah, but they hate aurin. That's worth some brownie points.

>>52920606
She still sounds lile she's going to get her trigger fingers cut off if one of the actually Good PCs finds out she's dicked them over for something as shitty as "it was for your own good"

>>52920072
>Get out of here, Branwen! Go back to counting your coins

With pleasure!

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>>52920627
A CR 29
B Say that to my face fucker and not online then see what happens

>>52920598
Seriously though, what's with all the deity stats in this book? I mean you can't go past 20.

>>52920659
You can go past 20 Anon, it's just not what normally happens. Are you okay?

>>52920659
>mythic tiers
>porting over epic levels

>>52920618

So long as your natural attacks don't use the same "hand" as your weapon, you should, yeah. For example, you can't use Claws if you're hitting people with a greatsword, but you'd still get a Bite (albeit with Secondary penalties).

>>52920659
There is no support for going past 20 in pathfinder unless you use a shitty ass 3.0 splatbook.

>>52920692
Does the negatives from a Secondary go from your highest BAB or your iteratives?

>>52920692
sweet. Thanks anon

>>52920673
see >>52920700

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>>52919557
Not really, I prefer to make my own settings. I'm always afraid I'll overlook something whenever I use another setting. If I make it myself then I have an idea of what I'm aiming for and if I don't have an answer prepared for my player then I can make one on the fly.

I usually start from the big picture working down. I think of what I want the setting to be for, then how the setting came to be. After I figure out the gods, the history and the land I pick an area where I'll have the party start and build it up around them.

I'm currently working on a setting where the world is divided into two continents: the North belongs to the Olympian gods while the Osirian Gods rule the South. Also dragons are from space.

>>52920700
Is it really so impossibly difficult to look at the classes, understand the stat progression they use, and extend that past 20? Frankly if you have half a brain it doesn't really NEED support to go past 20.

>>52920620
Not him and I wouldn't say either system is realistic, but 5e is probably more-so than Pathfinder on merit of being much more grounded. It's definitely weaker at high-power games but they're manageable, and bounded accuracy works fine in combat. All in all, I think 5e has much better combat mechanics than Pathfinder does.

The system kind of falls apart after that. I think there's a thread up right now about how badly bounded accuracy affects skills which're pretty shit in the system, and while I think Pathfinder is more illusion than choice, fact of the matter is that you'll be hard pressed to make one character in a class archetype different from another. Complaints about the game typically apply more to people who've played long enough to go through the options though, they're rather limited but when the core mechanics feel good with how much mobility they add to combat.

5e isn't without its flaws and it's absolutely worth a try, but if it doesn't stick to you quickly then don't push yourself. It does what it does well, and for everything else, it doesn't.