MTG Lore :Elf Hippie Does Everything Wrong Edition

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>>52910113
Maro said there are no more Gate Watch members in this set and I think only Nissa and Gideon partaking in trials. So maybe Gideon will get a second color, Boros would be nice if he survives or come back from the dead.

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>>52910113
so does Nissa carry a seed of Emrakul within her or was that just a trip?
>Nissa creates new Eldrazi Titans to replace the ones she helped destroy

are you a pawn or a queen, /tg/?

>>52910329
>UG Nissa
>WR Gideon
>UB Jace
>RG Chandra
>BG Liliana

>>52910394
is this a reference how Nissa is merely a card in a game that can be played as a pawn of queen by us?

>>52910113
And Ken Troop does it again with mind raping someone!

>>52910476
>Jace
>Not WU
>Liliana
>Not WB

It's like you don't even lore m8

>>52910488
It's a reference to when Emrakul played mind-chess with Jace

>>52910476
Ok I could see that, I would like R/B Jace, but we have Ral already who I do like better.

>>52910704
>red/black Jace

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Walkers were a mistake

>>52910681
Holy shit, I missed that it was a Ken Troop article.

And it's yet another 'eldritch entity mindfucks a female pov character' story. When was the last time he wrote a piece that wasn't that?

>>52910724
Are we saying this is his magical realm?

>>52910724
It's not like he's bad at it, but it's now a joke that every one of his stories is about a female getting mind fucked.

>>52910724
It's better than anyother episode of Chandra's autism and millenial talk

>>52910379

Nissa seens to have a lingering connection to Emrakul. Why is unclear, but this 'angel' used imagery and phrases from the mental conversation between Emmy and Jace. Stuff Nissa shouldnt even know. So it cant all be in her head.

Also, Emrakuls presence seemed to be fucking with the trial. I think we got some Farscape going on here, with Emmy as Harvey.

>>52910798
>>52910769
Hey, I'm not saying he's bad at it. He's easily the best writer they've got. It's just interesting that he hasn't written an article that doesn't involve mindbreak in over a year.

>>52910817
Wait, so is Emrakul actually helping Nissa or is there something more nefarious going on?

>locks herself away rather than eat Innistrad when she doesnt want to
>saves Nissa from a god
>gives her advice on how to be a better planeswalker

Is Emrakul best girl now?

>>52910880
Best girl since RoE

>>52910896
>>52910718
Eldrazi fags and Phyrexiafags were the real mistake

>>52910852

As far as I can tell, genuinely helpful. At least in the short term.

It looks like Kefnet accidently triggered cosmic horror funtime. Like, the trial drew on traumatic memories to throw at Nissa, including getting mindraped by Emrakul. But then halfway into the nightmare the illusion stops, looks at the camera, and says "jokes on you. Im memetic, bitch" and suddenly it wasnt just an illusion anymore.

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>Still bringing up the Eldrazi

>>52911005
Emrakul was LITERALLY in today's story

>>52910880
>>52910852
It's unlikely that Emrakul is directly helping Nissa. It's probably just a sign that Emrakul's aura of insanity caused permanent damage that isn't necessarily 'damage.' Rather, it's given Nissa a perspective she previously lacked, probably with the intention of shaping Nissa into a sort of planeswalker that might eventually assist Emrakul.

SULTAI NISSA WHEN

>>52911022
>WHEN
When she betrays Emmy and goes full NGTOW

>>52910113
why

Why bring back emeria/emrakul.

>The scenes shifted faster now, barely even an image forming before being replaced. A fizzling torch. A broken clock with a clean face. A mummified head facing backward atop a mummified body. A split tree, its sap oozing into the ground. A shattered shield, its shiny metallic pieces torn and scattered.
Looks like this is foretelling the fates of the Gatewatch this arc.

>A fizzling torch
Chandra.
She'll probably be fine. Maybe she'll be so humbled by Bolas that her confidence dims or something.

>A broken clock with a clean face.
Jace.
He'll get mind-raped, while remaining physically fine.

>A mummified head facing backward atop a mummified body.
Liliana.
She'll betray them, or become enslaved by the demon. She'll turn her back on them somehow.
However, I suspect she'll save them in the end, as part of some selfless character development or some shit.

>A split tree, its sap oozing into the ground.
Nissa.
She get's reckt somehow. Probably fine in the end.

>A shattered shield, its shiny metallic pieces torn and scattered.
Gideon,
RIP in peace.
Press F to pay respects.

>>52911408

This story softly implied that Nissa is unwittingly spreading Eldrazi corruption to other planes because she is such a slut for leylines.

>>52911502
I thought it implied that even though Emrakul was sealed away, she still has influence over people, even those far from Innistrad
>>52911470
What about the other images? The one with the stars and the snake?

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>>52910681
>It's a Ken Troop female MC story

>>52910113
>I can do anything I want. Anything at all. Remember that.

Didn;t even realize this was taken directly from the last emrakul story.

>>52911545

That part is clearly true, but remember Nissa's little freakout about maybe the corruption being in her all along? That was before she went into the trial, and seemed to come from the same internal voice as headEmrakul.

The broken tree, leaking sap into the ground? Also applies.

Nissa is to Eldrazi what Karn was to Phyrexia.

>>52911545
>What about the other images? The one with the stars and the snake?
The stars are the gods. The snake is Bolas. Bolas killed 3 of the 8 gods and corrupted the rest.

As for the rest:
>A falling dragon.
ded bolas
>Giants, covered in metallic blue, stomping through streets.
Lazitep constructs in Hour of Devastation, sent to kill the living/unworthy unless they prove their worth.
>A massive flash of light, consuming a world.
Hour of Devastation.
>A large golden disc, shaped and stylized like a sun, descending from the sky. The sun disc approached a large circular stone tablet covered with strange sigils, and the two discs merged, becoming a single golden disc. Cracks appeared in the golden disc, small at first, then widening, growing. The disc crumbled away into nothingness.
When the Second Sun converges with the regular sun, the Hour of Devastation is up and Amonkhet is destroyed.

>>52912253
Also, the sideways 8 with the stars making up the infinity, represent bolas eternal hunger for his powers back. Also, when Nissa talked that the corrupting line goes from amonkhet to another planes, makes me think that it maybe what will happen in HoN is just the first piece of domino in Bolas' current keikaku. Which may be the reason the ask Ajani to go to Ixalan

The most that I got from today's story is that Bolas does not care at all for the plane, despite all the dragon dick stroking and wotc selling the idea that it could be his main plane.

>>52912253
The text mentioned that something malevolent was left where the star of the 3 old gods were, so I'm betting they will show up in Hour of Devastation either as Demons or as Zombie Gods.

On a sidenote, I'm still a bit weirded out by there being 8 gods, It's such an odd number for MtG.

at first i thought it was a bit weird that kefnet wasn't willing to accept hacking his trial as an acceptable solution, and then i thought, maybe he was and he just wanted to check if she could hack him as well

>>52913107

Nah, it makes. His trial is supposed to be puzzles and riddles and shit to test the mind. Nissa wasnt giving the correct answers, she was just making origami out of the answer sheet and riding paper cranes to the next area.

Get back on my railroad, reeeee.

>>52913107
I think hacking the trial shows more of your expertise in what may look to Kefnet as "magic" than mental aptitude and fortitude.

>>52913035
>demon/zombie gods
If they do come back, it would be fitting for them to be in only Grixis colors. Then the 8 makes sense as well: 5 main colors, 3 for maximum bolas.

>>52913300
Maro said Amonkeht would be top down Egypt and that Hour of Devastation would be top down Bolas, so I'm on the hype train to Grixis Gods. Just hope they are more interesting than the current live ones.

>>52913371
I never got the top down? What does that mean?

>>52913394
bottom up = coming up with a mechanical theme and devising flavour to fit
top down = coming up with a flavour and designing mechanics to fit

>>52913394
Concept then mechanics
Bottom up is mechanics then concept.

>>52913300
>>52913371
I'd be down with grixis gods. And I also hope they are more insteresting than the current ones.

Speaking of the gods, why is Bontu the only one that doesn't have a gold mask?
My guess is, being the Black god, Bontu was the only one to willingly go along with Bolas plans. So she wasn't mind controlled and the masks is what is keeping the others in check for Bolas.

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>>52913447
Why does top-down almost universally mean "low powered garbage?"

>>52913501
Kefnet also doesn't wear a golden mask, so I think it was mostly stylistic choices on the god's design.

>>52913512
OG Inistrad was top-down design with horror classics as a theme. It has mostly to do with how everything is powered down in current Creatures: The Tappening

>>52913501

Hmmm. I wonder if the grixis gods will be multicolor, to further distinguish them from the 5.

BR, BU, RU?

>>52913556
>Kefnet also doesn't wear a golden mask, so I think it was mostly stylistic choices on the god's design.
His head looks very metallic though so it could be argued that it's a mask.
But I see your point.

Still it feels so odd that Bontu has a real animal head when majority has metal masks.
Hope they give some explanation as to why Bontu and Kefnet stand out in design compared to the others.

>>52913672
Check the art for Winds of Rebuke in today's story. At least the impression I got was that it was his actual head/neck.

Am I the only one getting the sense that the reason that Bolas released the Eldrazi in RotE was so he could study the mechanism by which they consume worlds in preparation for his own chowtime?

>>52913733
or spite.

>>52913746
Unless he has another multiverse to go to it sounds like he didn't think it all the way through

>>52913658
I would hope for the shard colors, at least. We already have two-color gods from Theros.

>>52913803
He isn't just red because he's a dragon. He's red because he acts on petty, spiteful, irrational whims just as frequently as he plots and schemes in the long term.

>>52913838
Let me guess, you were monumentally disappointed when the gods were got for Amonkhet weren't exciting and revolutionary.

>>52912246
This.

If Nissa goes mad and/or becomes a servant of Emrakul I would love her forever, not because she's cool or muh eldrazi, but beceause they finally gave her an arc or a character.

>spreading corruption, just like Karn

>>52913893
Eh. I was disappointed with Hazoret for having literally the same ability as Purphoros. The other gods at least do different things.

>>52913893
>you were monumentally disappointed when the gods were got for Amonkhet weren't exciting and revolutionary.


Yeah, and?

They don't have to be pushed standard chase mythics, but I wanted something closer to Theros god powerlevel, or something unique.


Theros gods are fun cards, the amonkhet gods, not so much.

>>52911022
>Sultai
I've kind of been wondering that myself. She's always been green (the color of mana fixing) and now she's blue. She's been shown to use Black mana as recently as B4Z. She's definitely the white side of green and they've been teasing a spicy gay relationship with Chandra. What if she just goes full WUBRG at some point? How mad would /co/ be?

>>52914272
>/co/
Fuck me I'm crossposting. I meant /tg/

>>52910718
agreed - the story went down kill real quick and plain walker cards are next to useless in a real game

>>52910718
Walkers can be great for stories.
Problem is the bad writing of them and how they are used.

When they were few and all had different motivations as to why they were fucking around on planes they were good.
Having a reoccuring cast of the 5 same ones all working together for the same goal over and over again it gets boring.
Also it kinda removes any tension when we have a superhero team as opposed to 1 or 2 walkers wanting to do their own thing, which doesn't necessarily mean saving the day.

>>52915053
Hell, the damn superhero stuff wouldn't be AS bad if they'd just fucking...split up. Have one or two a block instead of the full group for the past four and a half blocks - suddenly, there's breathing space for OTHER FUCKING CHARACTERS and you aren't having to figure out pointless little things for all of them to do to justify all of them being there.
Yeah, it'd be better still to have blocks not focused on any of these five chucklefucks, but they've decided to not only use them, but in the worst way possible. By cramming them down our throats until nobody gives a single shit.

>>52914492
>planeswalker cards are next to useless in a real game

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>It's another "Ken Troop tentacle mind rapes a girl" story

>>52915552
>Have 1 or 2 a block and split up.

That's exactly what it was like between Lorwyn and Origins. The gatewatch had the centre stage even then but it was usually one or two at a time.

>>52912923
<implying Bolas ever cared for anything than himself
Nigger was the Emperor of Madara as a hobby. I doubt he sees anything other then regaining what he lost and fighting planeswalkers worthy of his time.

So whatever the fuck was going on with Nissa's halucinations were cool, but did everyone just forget that she literally mind controlled the blue god?

>>52916529
She didn't mind control him as much as inceptioned him to let her go. It's powerful as fuck but she wasn't in full control. She could only implant an idea.

>>52913914
I have in my head my own little fantasy where Nissa wasn't retconned, and the little Nazi got to suffer and hate her life for a half-dozen blocks before her character arc resolves and she stops punishing herself for killing her world.

That being said, if it turns out Emracrul is hiding in the moon while riding Nissa's mind, looking for planes and using her leyline magic to connect to all of them so she's not burned alive by dumb writers, that would be neat.
>no stopping the eldrazi as long as anyone they've mentally connected to is alive
>worse that they're planeswalking, spreading their influence even further
>gatewatch has to either die or stop hopping planes to halt the spread

>>52914272
I'd actually be down with either a Sultai or WUBRG Nissa. 5-color makes sense as the leyline walker, and she could gain proficiency with other mana from block to block, experience to experience, Avatar style.

What would a Sultai Nissa do though? She's pretty non-black personality wise isn't she?
Also, what black things did she do in B4Z?

>>52916755
The shit with nissa seems kind of malicious.

If they swap out Nissa and Garruk for "corrupted mono green walker" I'd be fairly happy.

>>52916906
It's actually not meant to be; poor wording. But I'd find Nissa more interesting if we followed her on and off after Teeth of Akoum, having to deal with fighting eldrazi, looking for Sorin, and struggling with guilt, instead of 2-3 contextless cards followed by a retcon.
>wizards makes a waifu elf neowalker
>but she's not a hero-waifu
>and she's a jerk
>and she doomed her world!
>aaaaaaaand lol nope retcon to waifu

Would you uncorrupt Garruk? I thought the idea was that he found he liked his new outlook, not that the corruption was controlling him. I've been hoping for a monoblack Garruk actually.

>>52917154
That ancient race with the chain veil is still doing something, and yea I'd prefer a mono green garruk over a golgari or black one.

I'd also appreciate them fucking with nissa since she's the most flagrant example of retconning shit.

>>52916906
Nah, they're obviously setting it up for the Eldrazi being not as horrible as they seemed - necessary for the multiverse, only fucking up Zendikar/Innistrad because they were brought there against there purpose, etc.

>>52917284
i mean we've known that since bfz

>>52917312
And now Nissa might get to be one!

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>>52917392
a man can dream

Why is Troop the only good author they've got?

>>52917485
doug wasn't that bad in I, Avacyn

>>52917485
>magical realm mindrape man is considered good

He's great at painting weird images, sure, but the fact this is all he writes is concerning.

>>52918449
i think he wrotes a khans story

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>>52917418
d-do you have more?

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>>52918570
I don't know who drew it offhand, though I now I can find it by just googling "emrakul waifu"

gris and shit just lead me back to other /tg/ threads

>>52910957
New Phyrexia was the best thing wizards has ever shat out. With shit taste like yours, it's no wonder you like walkers.

>>52916885
They used her proficiency with black mana in the original Zendikar block to show that she was at least a little evil (because how else would you do it?) but after realizing that she'd fucked up bad she stopped using it / it was retconned out. In B4Z I don't think it was represented on a card but iirc she used a little bit of black magic to fuck up Ob Nixilis when they met at the Khalni Heart. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong

>>52918449
The others are just bleh writers.
Entering the Magical Realm of an author means it's something they care about and put a lot of energy into, instead of just shitting out words to make a quota.

>>52918604
That seems to be less just Emrakul, and more a representation of Innistrad getting Emrakul'd.

You know, reading these stories, I'm getting less a 'superheroes' feel...and more of a 'really shitty gaming group' feel.
Like they might be actually playing sessions of some freeformish RP to get the general story beats going, but went and assigned people to characters so some of them are not exactly that good at it. Thus why Chandra's acting like a modern teen girl, and why Nissa is so wonky - the person playing Nissa has as little clue as to what to do with her as we know about her.
And today was 'alright you already found out about the stuff with the plane and the gods, so now you're...going to talk to a god, who we've already stated doesn't know squat about before that? Okay, time for something different because fuck you. And oh look, your character can do stuff other than talk to rocks MAYBE YOU SHOULD DO STUFF OTHER THAN TALK TO ROCKS gjkshgdsg'

>>52920535
I think that image existed before soi was a thing.

Still cute though.

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>>52918647
Huh. Will have to go and read everything. Long time ago a friend mentioned the New Phyrexia stories being good, but for a long time I didn't think Magic put anything out except for that RtR ebook thing no one seemed to like. And post retcon all I've heard is how bad the writing is (though anons think everything is terrible unless it caters to their fetish) so who knows. Maybe I'll enjoy Ajani and Jace more.

Wish the wikis were updated more specifically like other rabid fanbases.

>>52921870
SOI block stories were decent, but pretty much everything else post retcon is either super average (kaladesh) or super bad (bfz)

>>52921870
There were actual novels for every set from Urza's Block until Eventide (and ones going backwards for before that), then they swapped to 1-2 per block until Scars of Mirrodin. Nothing at all for Innistrad, then ebooks for Return to Ravnica and Theros, then they switched entirely to stories on their website starting with Khans.
Of the current stuff, the guy who only writes his magical realm is honestly the best and I don't know why.

>>52922731
He perfected females being mind raped by eldritch abominations to a T

>>52911502

>Nissa becomes Karn 2: Electric Boogaloo

Man, and I thought Emrakul was ripping of Phyrexia's shtick BEFORE.

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>>52910329
OH SHIT IT'S MY BOY PAUL LATZA

>>52910764
I got to say if we see more mind break and mind rape in the story I would not mind

>>52924535
In-depth Atrax backstory when

Atraxa*

>>52923295
It's true. The latest chapter is the best so far

>>52924655
I will agree that it was well written, but The Promised End has to be my favorite piece in the new lore, being an Eldrazifag and admiring how well constructed the story was. The subversion at the end was the tentacled cherry at the top of the incolor cake.

Jace as a POV has been really interesting in a while, second only to Gideon when it comes to the GW, IMHO. Tamiyo and Ajani were also favorites of mine.

>>52924769
I'm still baffled that Jace of all people has one of the best characters post-origins.

If you had told me that would have happened I would have been shocked.

I'm interested in if Ob will become the new Tezzeret for Bolas.

>>52924831
Tezzeret's probably still Tezzeret for Bolas though. Do we know how many planeswalkers he has under his thumb? Sarkhan's out and Tezzeret still seems to be the main one.

With the assumed theory of the trials being an attempt at a planeswalker factory he's probably looking for more interplanar people to control.

>>52924859
I thought that Tezzeret was at Kaladesh to get the Planar Portal by his own volition, but now that I think about it I could see it being under Bolas's orders. My guilty fantasy though is for Tezz to bring the Planar Portal plans to New Phyrexia to cause hilarity.

I also like the idea of a Planeswalker Factory, perhaps a bigger and better Infinite Consortium.

>>52924916
He comments "This is bigger than you" and the card depiciting the portal being destroyed even mechanically referencing a Bolas planeswalker card, not to mention I think they just flat out say "Hey he's probably working for bolas"

We don't really know what he's doing exactly, but since he just popped in, brainwashed everyone, and left, I think it's fairly safe to say he doesn't care all that much about the process.

>>52924783
He was one of the better characters pre-origins.
It just didn't show up on the cards, and the cards was the only place most people saw things.

>>52924916
Tezzeret hates the Phyrexians.
The Phyrexians hate Tezzeret.
He's not going to be giving it to them under his own volition.
Someone else's volition, maybe, but not his own.

>>52922492
Theros was pretty good.

ESPECIALLY the last one with Kruphix telling his apostle how everything will always be the same level of suck.

>>52924535
>carlos_smug_face.png

>>52922492
The stories with Ob Nixilis were pretty nice

Does Nissa still want Chandra's V though?

>>52929061
other way round

>>52929157
It's both actually. Putting them alone together is like walking into a spaghetti factory.

>>52929061
I'm more on board of ChandraXGideon, but picturing Chandra sucking Nissa's Joragas makes cum buckets while Liliana films them touching herself.

>>52929616
>nissa's joragas

Just caught up on the Amonkhet story, and it's better than I was expecting. Going by the flavour text on the cards, it looked like it was going to be a "the heroic gatewatch join a small rebel faction and explain how the silly pseudo-egyptians aren't living their lives correctly" type thing, almost a repeat of Kaladesh's rebellion story. I saw a few comparisons in threads saying a lot of the flavour text came across as feeling very culturally imperialist, or "American foreign policy in a nutshell." So far the story is more of a mystery, a "what did Bolas fuck up on this plane, and why." I'm certainly enjoying it more than I did Kaladesh, at least.

>>52922731
I've read the Artifact Cycle books, Planeswalkers being my favorite. And I've got a few others, mainly books one of three for Mirroden, Ravnica, and Ice Age. Heard great things about the Ravnica books.

>>52923295
Huh... guess I've got some reading to do...

>>52915552
Literally half the stories in the kaladesh block were characters sitting around being bored and angsty and insecure. Then Liliana's story last week was the exact same shit.

>>52931258
And the best lead they've gotten so far...is from fucking Emrakul.

>>52931258
Yea I was kind of worried in that week between stories when we got the plot point cards spoiled, but they seem to be doing fine so far.

Nissa mind controlling a god, and the blue one at that, is werid though

>>52933353
Magic broke in 2015. Wotc literally can't think of anything that isn't planeswalkers and eldrazi anymore.

>>52933395
>Nissa mind controlling a god, and the blue one at that, is werid though

She didn't fully mind control him, she just top decked her only blue spell in her mono green deck.

>>52934410
Utter horseshit. Just powering up Nissa like the mary sue she is.

>>52934410
It's still stupid.
Not "whoops guess you can just burn eldrazi" stupid, but it's still pretty stupid.
The story otherwise was pretty good though.

>>52934428

I dunno. Her whole shtick is manipulating mana sources. The gods are giant mana constructs.

Really, what she did was just a much, much weaker and more limited version of what Bolas has already done. Its only dumb if it was dumb for Bolas to do it too.

>>52934856
Bolas is one of the most powerful planeswalkers in existence, an elder dragon, and not to mention he's grixis.

Nissa is some shitty autist elf who's only been off of zendikar for a handful of years.

Why are people here so desperate to apologize for wotc's shitty writing. This wasn't even a particularly bad instance of it but it makes even less sense because of it.

>>52934935
What kind of fucked up logic is that. "This wasn't even that bad, why don't people think it's stupid???" Are you fucking kidding me? Nissa's special snowflake power is she manipulates mana leylines (lands mechanically). That's what she does. Since Gods are mana constructs through which leylines are channeled, it makes complete sense she'd be able to do something with them. If you're going to take an issue with anything, be less concerned with Nissa doing that and more with the total luck that for some reason gods are controlled by the leylines. We kind of got a similar thing with the cryptoliths manipulating and focusing the leylines to draw Emraul to Innistrad which is what drove Avacyn mad as she was also affected by that explicitly because she and the other angels were mana constructs, though whether that's intentionally coincidentally related or if it's dumb luck that the logic worked out like that I don't know.

>>52935040
"leylines" seems to be their go to cop out answer for everything, look at the sorin fight

>>52935072
That's what I mean by whether how Avacyn was affected and how Nissa controlled the gods is intentionally similar or if just coincidentally they used leylines as a similar macguffin in both stories. "Leylines" seems to come up a lot nowadays and what they are is still pretty nebulous. Lands are referred to as places through which leylines of mana can be drawn, but we also have actually Leyline cards as enchantments. Are they the same kind of Leyline proper noun or just two things called leylines? How are they related at all? It's all pretty nebulous.

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>>52934420
>>52934428
>>52934935
Meh, it's not great but I could buy the explanation on how she manipulated Kefnet.

You know, after all these years you get used to their awful writing, it's like Stockholm syndrome.

>>52935432
Letting green have any sort of mind control cause "leylines" Is fucking horseshit. from both a mechanical and flavor standpoint.

>>52915552
Jace's mystery adventures on Innistrad were pretty fucking good, since it was only him. With the lack of the team for most of the block, we got to focus on the ACTUAL story. I also believe that SoI and Eldritch Moon showed how insignificant the gatewatch really was . Tamiyo didn't want any of that horseshit.

>>52935862
>tfw you can't comfort the bunny

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>tfw Gix will never return and kill 2/3rds of the gatewatch

Here's how to fix the story:
Stop writing Chandra as a literally retarded 15 year old
Give Nissa a character or something to do (though they do seem to be at least trying for this)
If the jacetice league is to continue to be a thing, actually have the other members do something instead of syaing "yea sure" and then it's back to the origins 5.
2-3 jacetice members a plane max, use origins sparingly at least until there isn't back to back to back of them

>>52936383
Good point. What even is Ajani doing right now?

>>52936433
Probably going to be explained as he was doing something in atlantis.

If maro's comment a while ago about a new jacetice league member every block is to be believed (and though 2 isn't enough for a proper trend, that seems to be the case) we're going to have another "They didn't expect a cat man to foil their plans"-tier entrance of some other walker who'll take the oath.

Who would it be though? Ajani had nothing to do with Kaladesh so it's kind of a crap shot.

>>52936461
>Who would it be though?
Narset, if only to fuel my fantasy of seeing her and Nissa have confused, autistic sex.

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Will Yisan become Kerrigan?

>>52934935
Lets be clear here: Few villains job harder than Nicky B. He's gotten his ass kicked by mere mortals on more than one occasion and Ajani fought him to a tie (which may have damaged Bolas more than we know). Is it possible that he's getting weaker as successive battles wear his ass down?

>>52939371
Possible, but "brainwashing and taking control of an entire plane" still seems pretty powerful.

>>52914492
>next to useless in a real game
Jesus what?

>>52936461
I would be surprised if Samut didn't have a spark. /tg/ would flip its shit if it turned out that WE WUZ WALKERS N SHEEIIT

>>52939047
Patrician

>>52939394
Didn't he do that pre-mending? I actually have no idea

>>52939443
How long ago was the mending again? Nissa says he took over the plane like ~50 years ago.

>>52939464
I don't even know. According to this, Xenagos ascended in year 4607 while the mending ended in 4505. Ajani is wearing Elspeth's cloak, meaning that he must have already been to Theros. The mending must have been a little over 100 years ago and could have occurred just prior to the capture of Amonkhet, when Bolas was still trying to figure out how to return to his original power?

Still, I find it hard to believe that a 25,000 year old dragon hasn't figured out a plan in what is roughly .4% of his total lifetime

http://mtg.gamepedia.com/Timeline#Post-Mending

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>>52939047

>>52939047
>Nissa drops her spaghetti
>Narset starts counting the noodles

>>52939626
Mending happened approximately 60 years ago, that wiki is estimating and didn't have the power of someone who REALLY LIKES RAVNICA to crunch numbers.
Meanwhile, it's kind of a fact that Bolas did not do anything to Amonkhet premending, what with being rather dead up until shortly before it happened and then going on an Umezawa-killing spree right after AND thinking that the multiverse was going to be destroyed rather than healed - and preparing to outlast it.

people talking of Emrakul here need to understand.

the Titan's are not evil beings, they are functioning parts of the Multiverse.

infact, Emrakul's story heavily hints that all life on all planes was seeded by her, and eventually evolves into the beings and creatures we see, hence why there can be Goblins and Humans everywhere you go.

the Eldrazi function as giant recyclers, they go to a dead plane, eat the mana,(Ulamog) Reconfigure everything (Kozilek) and then seed the world with life.

this is why Emrakul can 'corrupt' beings without touch, they were always evolved from Eldrazi anyways, this even includes fucking Mana Constructs like Angels and Demons, as the very concept of the 5 colors of mana prism's from the Eldrazi's true colorless

>>52939951
longer than that, mending is 100+, long enough time for Liliana to get old and then live quite a while young again.

this doesn't explain how Venser looked 20 until death though.

>>52940060
It's been NO MORE THAN 60 years since the Mending, by the only dates Wizards has actually given us.
A bunch of the shit going down in the original Ravnica block (particularly the existence of Agyrem) were due to the whole fuckery that was the Time Spiral Crisis. The block has various dates in the Ravnican calender, involving Teysa's age mostly. The block was premending.
There are also dates given for Current Things...including Teysa's current age. These put the events of the original Ravnica block at 60ish years ago, so it was AT MOST 60ish years ago, assuming the Mending happens almost immediately after the resolution of the original block.
That said, assuming it's the full 60, Liliana still works - some thirty years puts her at a wonderful 50ish, at which point she goes 'fuck being old and then takes another 20 to look for a cure then goes 'alright, bolas contract' at the physical age of 70, which is rather old you know, and has been enjoying eternal youth with the occasional demon errand for the past ten years. If it WERE 100, then she's been running demon errands for a looooong time.
As for Venser, he knew Jhoira and Teferi, both of whom were students at the Tolarian academy when it went through the whole 'time disaster' thing. Could've been given/snatched some slow time water from them or something. Or something else, unless the mending is even less time ago he definitely found something to reduce aging but probably not stop it.

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>>52939951
>>52940060
>>52940306
>ravnicanon-screenshot-mending-explanation.jpg

can someone post it?

>>52940387
First for Naya sandwich with Selesnya as the lettuce, Boros as the cheesecake, and Gruul as the bread
I'll bring the meat

>>52941091
That was supposed to be "cheese" with a spoilered "cake" on the end

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Do we have a pdf/ebook collection of all or most of the books and/or comics yet?

>>52910379
Nissa's spark was awakened by an encounter with Emrakul's full form while she was on some vision quest.

>>52924783
Jace has always been pretty decent in actual stories.

It's the card quotes that fucked him.

>>52910476
>implying Gideon isn't just going to up and bite it

>>52941357
4 hour bump, surely I'm not the only person that seeks this information?

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>>52941357


https://mega.nz/#!9xQVwRxB!xPX6unHp7Eyn8deeU7CFLrrW1uzoXupqPcW2aY3My2Q


Here are the last three arcs they released as ebooks. They're all in mobi format tho. You can get them as epubs from the mothership by googling the name of the plane and the file type. Can't find the IDW comics starring Dack tho'. They're scarce out in the wild and they stopped a little after Theros.

>>52939443

The vision Nissa had shows bolas, diminished saying something like "I won't be diminished", so it's probable he ate the gods for power.

Maybe the trail nissa saw means Bolas is treating the gods of various planes like an all you can eat buffer?

>>52939443
It looks like he did it either during or just after the Mending happened, as a means of either preserving his power or accelerating the return of his Oldwalker spark.

>tfw Amonkhet is just one domino in the long chain Bolas will set off across the multiverse to turn Planeswalkers back into Oldwalkers

>>52931268
Find a torrent or pdfs for ravnica, senpai. They're consistently good and Teysa = best girl. Dimir faggotry is always compelling, it's one of the better features of the RTR ebooks too

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>>52946434
>Teysa = best girl
You, sir, have magnificent, patrician tastes. I would be proud to call you my compatriot of melatonin-enriched descent.

>Emrakul

turn 360 degrees and planeswalk away

>>52946937
>turn 360 degrees
This is a bad attempt at a joke, right?

>>52946994

How new?

>>52947045
Don't try. I've been here since 2007.

A bad joke having been told before doesn't excuse it from being a bad joke.

>>52939422
We already have a WE WUZ walker. Kaya said that at one point her family was royalty in her story for Conspiracy 2

what if she is from amonkhet and shes a walker in HOU?

Also maybe this will be of interest to someone.
https://www.originalmagicart.store/blogs/oma-blog/art-in-focus-dread-wanderer-by-josh-hass
I wondered why the Khenra jackalfolk werent called ainok, especially since Tarkir's abzan affiliated ainok were specifically described as jackal-like. But it turns out they apparently WERE called ainok in Amonkhet at one point. I wonder why the change. Maybr because theyre Jackal creature type instead of hound?

>>52947066

>I've been here since 2007.

Sure you have bud-bud

>>52917282
I think Garruk should gain Red to go full Jund.

>>52947243
Hey, that's actually not a bad idea. Makes more sense than a bant Tamiyo anyways.

>>52945213

http://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Magic-The-Gathering

Got you senpai.

>>52917418
>sevenvaganias

>>52950259
imageine

imagine, fuck

>>52950259
>not
>an irrational number of non-euclidean vaginas

>>52922492
Kaladesh was worse than BFZ honestly.

>>52952053
BFZ was actively offenseive, while Kaladesh (if you ignore Chandra turning into a literally retarded 14 year old at least) was just kind of mediocre outside of the great gatsby

>>52952068
I thought Kaladesh was fucking awful in its entirety, besides Dovin Baan. Pretty much every shitty writing trope was used, and so much fucking pandering.

BFZ was godawful, but just slightly better due to Ob Nixilis in my opinion.

>>52939951
>umezawa killing spree
Explanation? I know nothing about the umezawa's. What did bolas have to do with them?

>>52953194
If I remembere correctly;
ages ago it was an Umezawa that killed/trapped bolas in spiritworld/purgatory/somesuch. When he got restored/freed during timespiral story 1st thing he did was vow to end all Umezawa's, then planeswalked away. Don't know if he actually did though. Or if he ever visited Kamigawa. Or even if the Kamigawa Umezawa is related to the Umezawa from Dominaria somehow.

>>52953316
The Umezawa who killed/whateveritwas'd him is explicitly a descendant of the Umezawa who was Kamigawa Block's main protagonist
Kamigawa block took place a fucklong time before most other blocks.

>>52941357
>>52945213
Somebody has the BF Zendikar and So Innistrad Art books?

>>52953527
Wasn't tetsuo from dominaria and toshiro from kamigawa though? How did their clan span different planes?

>>52953527
So how did a descendant of the Umezawa's from Kamigawa end up on Dominaria then? Was there an Umezawa walker or what? Was this ever explained? Cause Bolas got trapped on Dominaria, right?

>>52953629
Myojin of Night's Reach decided she didn't want Toshiro hanging around Kamigawa anymore and shoved him somewhere else. At the time, the boundaries between planes were weaker, and certain non-planeswalkers could, in fact, breach them, Night's Reach being one of them.