/40kg/ Warhammer 40k General

>>52909914
Are Orcs a melee race?

First for shit memes

>>52909658
Very nice contrast to the death masque Eldrad video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QZ3vrP_mv4

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>Will finish my DE before 8th is out
>no doubt it'll be invalid or nerfed because unless youre Craftworld cucks, GW hates you
Bring back Vect and Duke

>>52909934
No but tau are mighty warriors

>>52909952
Why does the red paint make the marine in the girls hand go see though and
spooky?

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>mfw Chaos vs Imperium for the soul of mankind and the fate of the galaxy
>mfw xenoshitters not invited

>>52909969
Dead people for a dead game. Seems fitting.

>>52909974
>All smiles

>>52909952
>the BLACK LEGION are the ones who followed the man who struck down the Emperor

POTTERY
O
T
T
E
R
Y

>>52909974
The fuck is this guy supposed to be

>>52909969
I assume you're referring to her thumb and apparent continuation of her outline into the model

>>52909991
But anon I play the Glorious Ultramarines.

>>52909994
Nurgle cultist.
Maybe a new unit, but Nurgle cultist is probably the general idea.

I just hope they do away with every terrain set having its own datasheet and special rules.
I just want some basic terrain rules, like in Malifaux.

>>52909952
we get it, fuck off cheetahfag

>>52909952
Are you still hung up on that picture?
There's a black dude playing 40k. get over it. It's nothing to go ape shit full retard mode.

>>52910023
>compelling narrative
>generic good vs evil

>>52910023
>Reminder that the heroes of the Imperium only survived because Necrons and Eldar saved them

>>52909914
Post for Abaddon is the Everchosen of 40k and Gullimarines versus Khorneblood Bloods will be the starter set.

>8th edition

Does this mean I could make a Genestealer Cult/Tyranids hybrid army that's good?

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>>52910000
No, no i am not

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This thread is now an Yvraine thread, hail your queen imperial citizen

>>52910057
I want to suck her toes and have her trample my cock

>>52910049
It's called photoshop anon, and someone was bad at it. I can tell from a few pixels and seeing some photoshops in my life.

>>52910041
I like to pretend nothing happen past 4th

It makes the hobby less painful

>>52910049
yes, dat bit is her thumb

>>52910036
It's Age of Sigmar anon but in SPACE. It's all coming full circle first 40k was Fantasy then it became it's own thing then Fantasy became 40k with Stormcasts in Age of Sigmar and now 40k is becoming Age of Sigmar in space. It's beautiful.

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>>52910088
I hate it.

>galaxy of varied and interesting threats vying for supremacy in a war of infinite fronts

>Humans fighting different humans

Good thing we got rid of those NPCs™

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>>52910072
No, no it isnt

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>>52910088

>flamers/bolter can't even kill 6+ Orkz anymore

'EAVY ARMOUR IZ DA NEW META

>>52910088
>las cannon
>ap -3
really got my noggin' joggin'

>>52910088
Flamers are shit. We lost glorious templates for this crap?

>>52910088
That fucking site is awful to navigate

>The rules team behind the new game have taken the opportunity to rebalance a lot of the weapons in the game, and with the new armour modifier system and removal of the cap of 10 on Strength values, we’ve made sure that every weapon has its use on the battlefields of the 41st Millennium. D weapons, for example, are gone, and instead there is a scalable Strength and damage that matches the effectiveness you’d expect from every weapon.
>D weapons, for example, are gone,

The age of aelDari is over at last!

>>52910088
>Boltgun
>ap 0
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
MARINES BTFO

>>52910112
Anon isn't Chaos the most deadly threat ever. So traitorous and misunderstood xD XD xd

>>52910088
Flamers work exactly as expected, bolters and lascannons work exactly as they ought to.

Nothing particularly noteworthy here, except the confirmation that rapid fire/assault/heavy is still around in some form.

>>52910123
Don't forget
>charger hits first

Orks are, finally, maybe, not shit.

>>52910088
I can has my 6+ armor save now?

>>52910088
>Bolters have no AP
>Lascannons only -3

Thank fucking goodness.

Also, kind of surprised that flamers are a full d6 hits

>>52910148
Thye even mention in the article how burna boyz ae now pretty fucking sexy

>>52910162
Link? The article isn't up on the UK site yet, I don't think.

So are excess wounds going to spill?

As is, a Termie gets a 5+ against a lascannon, and has a 5/6 chance of it only rolling two or more wounds.

>>52910124
>Terminators still get a 5+ armor save against Lascannons
>Dreadnoughts get a 6+ and cant be instantly killed by a lascannons shot.
Neat.

>>52910148
Flamers should be 2d6. I'm missing position and not brain dead plays already.

Removing flame templates was a mistake, purging will no longer be satisfying

>>52910183
Wording strongly suggests that it's not going to spill over.

>>52910114
yes... it is

>>52910179
As a scotmans, yes it is
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/04/26/warhammer-40000-weapons/

>>52910183
No, excess wounds are lost.

Use the right weapons for the right targets.

>>52910162
Yeah. I'd want to try them out in play, th out in my personal experience I average 3-4 hits with flamers anyway, so it might not be a big deal.

I'm more glad that they picked AP values that don't invalidate armor entirely. I mean, now anything with a 2+ save gets a 5+ against plasma natively without even needing an invuln.

>>52910193
I'd rather say 2D3.

>>52910191
>Dreadnoughts get a 6+ and cant be instantly killed by a lascannons shot.
no they cant, they hav 8 wounds you dumb dumb

>>52910233
>What is reading comprehension

>>52910233
>cant be instantly killed by a lascannons shot.
>cant, they hav 8 wounds you dumb dumb
Learn how to read, numbfuck.

>>52910241
whats a 't between anons hay?

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>>52910057
She aint shit compared to urien

>>52910135
Guess my $150 Shadowsword is useless. Thanks New GW.

>>52910193
>Flamers should be 2d6

Fuck off, when is the last time a flame template covered 12 people?

>>52910256
Wars have been waged over less in the 41st millenium.

>>52910224
I'm trying to work with shitty d6 systems.
A vomit of fire just hitting one at that close range feels odd.
Specially when wounds won't spill over

>>52910119
Usually, I'm not I don't agree with posts like this, but on this occasion I can agree wholeheartedly. Add gurofags and we'll be peachy. Sadism is not to be sexual, it's to be used on deserving people such as pedophiles and zoophiles

https://youtu.be/DtH49maGHtU
Is it Guilliman narrating?

>>52910269
Every game i've played against Nids.

>>52910269
Every time I play against 10+ model squads?

Yeah 2d6 is a lot but 1d6 is fucking stupid. Maybe 2d3 like >>52910224 said would had been better

>>52910269
I could only see it happening against a small base unit that was clumped in base to base.

That said, that's the entire point of this change, to make it so flamers are roughly as effective whether your opponent takes 5 minutes carefully spacing his guardsmen or if he's a noon you just moves them as a single blob.

There's also the benefit that those d6 hits more heavily affect small squads.

>>52910284
I'm pretty sure even Nid playing retards can space their models correctly.

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>>52910268
>>52910268
Just replace with a stormsword... you did magnetise didn't you?

>>52910269
2D6 averages seven

D6 isn't really enough to justify squads who can take a flamer, as opposed to taking a different special weapon instead. Only dedicated flamer squads will be worthwhile, I think.

Do you think orks players will have a mental breakdown when they'll find out that they can actually take armor saves instead of directly removing the wounded models?

>>52910137
On a 6+, they already could do that in 7e by going to ground.

>>52910135
Anything that used to be D will just have huge stats.

>>52910268
If they sell it now, it'll have rules. D weapons are just being given stupidly high damages, like 3d6 or something.

D6 instead of templates means you don't have to spend ten minutes assuring exact 2" spacing between models to prevent dying like a retard

It's a good change, don't pretend that "always space out against templates" was deep or something tactical

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FUCKING CARNAC

>>52910311
2d3 seems fine, 2d6 is reasonable.

Now flamers are just random shitty Exorcist shots.

>>52910315
there won't be anyone left....

>>52910268
Nah it'll just be like S13 damage 3D3 ap -5 or something equally mental.

>>52910088
The flamers now its worthless, what piece of shit

>>52910342
This meme again

Come back when you actually play the game with some terrain

>>52910322
>MANz have a 5+ against Lascannons
>MANz will also probably have 3-4 wounds so they have a good shot of tanking the damage anyway

>>52910275
Shooters can still aim badly, enemies can still dodge his aim.

Also balance, just always getting 4 hits every time would be to good.

>>52910368
>Implying we aren't all /d/egenerates

>>52910088
So, in a circumstance where I use a flamer, are the hits all against a single model? Or are they against d6 models? Likewise, if I use a boltgun, and I'm rapid firing, are they all against 1 model, or can I split it amongst two?

>>52910308
Sadly no anon. Built and painted it in like a day for Adepticon and didn't have any time.

>>52910368
Only consensual sex in the missionary position, for reproductive reasons. Hail the pure, new world!
Maybe add a blankt with a single hole between the two people, so nobody will ever have wrong thoughts ever again!

>>52910339
Lots of people, mostn of the timr.
a chance at having your mini not die even if they're pinned is still much better than them automatically dieing with no save.

>>52910398
d6 hits even against a single model

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>>52909955
>Tau
>Mighty Warriors

>>52910412
That feels weird. Not saying it's bad or wrong, just sorta odd.

>>52910359
>>52910335
I hope so. This and the vehicle rules are what I'm most concerned about.

>>52910398
>So, in a circumstance where I use a flamer, are the hits all against a single model?

No. You get d6 hits against a unit.

>if I use a boltgun, and I'm rapid firing, are they all against 1 model

I doubt it, but we don't know what rapide fire does yet.

I wonder how grav will work.

Because if Temies have their shiny 3+ on 2 dice thing, does that mean they have to roll below 3 on 2 dice to save against grav?

Also grav is even MORE powerful against vehicles now. Admech rape train goes choo choo.

>>52910368
Degeneracy is relative.

>>52910364
How the fuck does terrain factor in?

Again, facing template = space out. No thought. Removing templates doesn't remove any actual skill or depth. It's not like flamers scattered.

>>52910427
>Because if Temies have their shiny 3+ on 2 dice thing

They don't.

>>52910377
Had you fire a Flamer? It is very hard to miss anything.

You want to hit 10 moving targets within range of your Flamer? Then you hit those 10 moving targets.

That is why 1d6 hits look stupid even in abstraction. That is why the template worked. Worked fine from mechanics and as abstraction.

>>52910398
The article specifically mentions its D6 hits on the unit, so it spreadss around.

>>52910421
well it was d3 hits on overwatch against single model units currently aswell and no one cared

>>52910426
So what I'm hearing is flamer's are the ultimate vehicle destroying weapons?

>>52910398
you do d6 hits/wounds against the unit

Post yfw Orks become a goddamn powerhouse

>>52910427
>Also grav is even MORE powerful against vehicles now. Admech rape train goes choo choo.
Grav is certain to change

>>52910421
It makes more sense when you realize that flamers, like IRL flame throwers, aren't just shooting a burst of fire but are spraying ignited chemicals that will cling to you and do damage over time.

Even if you're not wearing flammable clothing or have plates of fire-retardant chitin, you're still covered in a coating of succulent flaming promethium that will do damage beyond the initial spurt of fire.

>Low strength
>Low AP
>Shoirt range
>Vehicle destroying

I doubt it.
Maybe Ork vehicles.

>>52910436
In a game with terrain, cover and line of sight blocking. Doing the autistic 2" spacing is imposible.

That is why I say come back when you actually play the game

>>52910442
Just hitting the isn't really enough, a quick waft of fire as you swing your weapon around isn't reliably going to set everything properly on fire.

>>52910427
>grav even more powerful against vehicles now
You're basing this off what exactly? The grav rules havent even come out.

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>>52910088
>No AP on bolters
WHAT A DAY
WHAT A LOVELY DAY

>>52910475
Again, how is that relevant?

If you can spread out, you do.

If you can't, you can't.

Where is there any depth or strategy or value there? There isn't.

>>52910474
For
>>52910446

>>52910446
But the flamer is S4, AP0, D1. Even if you manage to beat toughness and armor, you're doing a single wound for each of your d6 hits. I'd imagine torching will only be effective against lighter vehicles, if at all.

>>52910463
It makes less sense to be 1d6.

To make sense it should be hit everyone in the squad and add some kind of "on fire" counter to them.

But that would be too complex for the kids today

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>>52910088
40kids hit by the reality of armor finally mattering.

And people tought Heavy bolter will be -2 lol.
In AoS even having -1 is really cool and -2 is basically ultra rare.
-3 is only on very few heroes.

Cant wait to play my Astra Militarum

>>52910436
He could mean that terrain can force you to bunch up, especially armies like Guard who rely on hiding behind Aegis lines. Can't tell you how much I prefer the new flamers as Guard, whereas before they could delete entire units, now it's 6 at most.

But that's an unfair way to look at it, for everyone who doesn't play horde armies, it's a massive "Fuck you".

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>Hey anon done 3 so far in a week
>dunno how you can focus on this for so long haha
Normies are fun in a "dog in a human body" sort of way - but at least he's giving his best

>>52910446
Not at all no.
It'll take 40 flamers to kill a dreadnought (assuming wounding never gets worse than a 6+) on average.

>>52910501
you'll still present your ass and play the new rules anuway, so stop complaining

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>>52910461

>>52910508
More dudes = Less promethium on each dude in a single spurt, fire can be put out or doused and will do less damage

Less dudes = More promethium on a single dude in a single spurt, harder to be put out and more opportunity to do damage on each individual

>>52910520
Throw a bottle of nuln oil at his head

>>52910523
I'm defending the new rules, Chapter Master Speedicus Reederus

>>52910510
To be fair, heavy bolter may be -1. But yeah, -2 was off from the get go.

>>52910088
So here's a question. How does cover work if there's nothing under the flamer to indicate it ignores cover? Or will that be a core feature of them again?

>>52910543
It doesn't work that way you know ?

>>52910492
Hitting something with a flamer is exactly enough. How do you think flamethrowers work? They don't just shoot fire out of a nozzle, it shoots fuel that is on fire. If that fuel hits you, YOU ARE NOW ON FIRE.

There is a reason why they are banned in our world, there is no "Wounding shot" with a flamethrower, anyone you hit with it is going to either die or not want to live.

>>52910556
Maybe cover will be a hit modifier instead of a save.

>>52910513
As if horde armies weren't awful for the last two editions.

Any horde army ran as a horde could be wiped easily with the wealth of template weapons available to every faction, an footslogging hordes lose to fast elites when it comes to objective grabbing.

It's about fucking time horde armies got some survivability, and this is coming from a mech marine player.

>>52910510
>Rend -3
>Rare
Play Skaven loser.

Who /xeno hordes/ here????

>>52910583
Pretty sure its been confirmed cover is a save mod.

>>52910593
I dont play soon to be squatted army.
also 1 (One) -3 unit out of 150+ is indeed rare.

call me when skavent go past RO64 in any tournament

>>52910510
Anyone who thought bolters would actually be -1 was being dumb.

I'm glad armor saves will actually matter for everyone.

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>>52910548
He says he washed them already, desk lamp makes them look brighter maybe?

>>52910555
We hang every other weekend so i try and help him when i can - not that i'm good or anything

>>52910608
No one plays mono lists in the upper tiers, but damn near every chaos list took stormfiends.

>>52910022
Double dubs.
Nice.

>>52910608
>1
>Stormfiends
>Those cannons they have
>Warpfire Teams, and even Drill teams have a -3
>Any of the Warplock Engineer Spells
My dude

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>Orks rejoicing at getting armour saves
>8e drops
>Armour save: -

>>52910629
Right? I only play Skaven, and in tournaments, I bring 3 units in Gautfyre. You just fucking explode on people in a Hero phase.

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>>52910594
Buttblasted marine fags are fun to watch.

>>52910556

Modifies to hit probably, so flamer is still good for clearing out cover.

>>52910088
>Things will die faster guize
Where the fuck are you faggots now.

>>52909952
Reminder that shitposting is a bannable offense.

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>>52909953

>>52910691
You're talking to one right now anon,
I play Salamanders too.

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>>52910647
>shootas
>strength 3
>Orks still bs2

>>52910691
Why is this thread /pol/ today?

Fuck off back to a Trump subreddit or something. I want to talk about plastic spacemen.

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>>52910691
>Force that fucking meme onto the other races.
Little late to the punch there

>>52910597
>asian fags are honestly incredibly rare
Anon, have you ever actually been to an Asian country? I can't talk for all of Asia but my experience of Goa, China, Thailand and what was French Indochina shits all over the notion that "it's not in their culture"

>>52910699
Nah it's fine. Only if you say the N word

(Got banned for posting it, in 4chan. We are not what we used to be)

>>52910711
I played Tyranids before I stopped playing. Yes, I'm Canadian, and yes I may go back to the Tyranids because a buddy might give his to me for free if he can't sell it. Also, gender fluid or homosexual black man?

Who do you think will be fucked the most by 8th? And why? And does it mean vehicles can have special rules like FNP?

>>52910732
this should be obvious. homosexuality isn't a cultural thing. its not learned.

>>52910740
Gay my dude. Why exactly are you complaining about this kind of stuff here, instead of a board more suited to this stuff? Also, what hive fleet?

>>52910748
Non-ultramarines Marines

>>52910759
Are Tyranids homosexuals?

>Weapon Profiles only have four values, maybe a special rule or two now
>Weapons no longer have individual special rules that only apply to them, but now have special abilities
>AP is an armor saving throw modifier

8th confirmed to be actually good.

>>52910748
Vehicle changes? DE by a mile
Assault changes? Tau

CWE/Ynnari will be OP regardless

>>52910748
>Who do you think will be fucked the most by 8th?

Hopefully Grav weapons

>all those drop-pod centurionfags BTFO in one swoop

it's gonna be great

>>52910748
Eldar. Addt, Techmarines/Mek Boyz will probably confer that.

>>52910748
eldar probably, in that they won't be OP anymore.

potentially yeah, if FnP is still a thing at all.

>>52910725
Ever since GW announced a new edition and the pol cunts saw a picture with a girl and a black kid. So now they go full on LE GOYIM KEKSHOP LELELELELE NIGGER DINDU BLACKED GOYIMGOYIMGOYIM in every 40kg.

>>52910776
What do you think some special abilities would be?

>>52910778
>>52910739
>>52910735
Fuck off back to /pol/

>Ork Boyz
>M 5" WS 5+ BS 3+ S 3 T 4 W 1 A 1 Ld 5 Sv 6+
>Shotta
>Range 16" Assault 2 S 4 Fp 0 D1

You know this its true

>>52910119
Don't bully the space wolves. :^(

>>52910794
We used to make fun of a Chaos player for trying to give his vehicles FNP. I guess he was ahead of his time.

>>52910797
probably much of what we have now.
snipers getting to kill specific minis, mortars not needing LoS.

>>52910807
Shit, its WS 3+ BS 5+

>>52910807
>WS5+ BS3+
Are you retarded or dyslexic

>>52910807
Orks aren't that good at shotting.
Change it to a 6+ and we'll be there.

>>52910807
Orks hitting in melee on 5+ and 3+ at range?

>>52910797
Mostly those weird, weapon-specific special rules. For instance, Pulverize for the DW's Heavy Thunder Hammer and some other examples I can't think of because I just woke up.

>>52910807
swap WS and BS, make shoota 18 inch range and it seems about right

>>52910833
Im retarded

>>52910843
>Got to have 300 different types of gender nowadays
Unfortunately, the "two-spirit" bullshit is actually pretty old.

>>52910088
I'd have liked to see a couple of basic guns up against each other, eg. Bolter and lasgun.

As it is they've shown how they'll work, but not how the different power of basic weapons will sit.

>>52910807
>M 4" WS 4+ BS 6+ S 3 T 4 W 1 A 1 LD (Unit size/5) SV -

Guys i have 60 shoota boys am i really going to have to take all their arms off and trade them for sluggas and choppas?

>>52910807
>Shotta

Warboss Sempai!

>>52910790
>Ynnari is the hot, new faction
>Eldar getting fucked the most

>>52910556
Flamer causes auto hits, cover makes you accuracy worse, ergo flamer don't give a shit about cover mods.

>>52910412
This is false. The weapon output is against the unit. The damage is against a model once they fail an armor save

>>52910773
No

>>52910878
They have been like that for decades

This only made Flamer worst.

In before muhhhhh 2" spacing is hard and I need my safe space

Local just moved two doors down and had wicked stock sales. Just got a box of Centurions for $35. Did I win? I plan to run them Red Hunters for versitility.

>>52910878
Cover is going to apply modifiers to armour save. Cover saves are gone. Cover wouldnt make it more difficult to put a round on to a certain target it would just affect whether that on target shot found its way into flesh.

>>52910843
Personally, I don't give a shit about what people do as long as it doesn't affect me. Want to lop off your genitals and dress like a woman? Go nuts.
If you want me to respect you more because of that and not solely based on how you treat me and others? Go fuck yourself.

>>52910870
Yes Shootas are 100% useless in the new edition and have gets hot and only fire one shot at the cost of hitting on a 3 up close

Rip your models apart NOW to stay ahead of the curve !

>>52910870
Just go on ebay, slugga boys are available in excess thank to AoBR.
Hell you can have 40 of mine plus a handful of mixed Nobs if you pay postage.

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>Lasgun
>AP: +1

If they nerf my torrent monofilaments I will burn GW to the ground. Night spinner hitting less than 3 times on bad rolls? Fuck that shit

>>52910922
I kept all my sprues so ive got bits its just going to be a cunt

>>52910878
>Lastly, you can see that the flamer no longer uses a template. However, when in range, it causes D6 hits that do not have to roll to hit, and this applies even against units of a single model

> this applies even against units of a single model

learn to read. its d6 hits. each does 1 damage

>>52910759
I need my (You)'s. Nah, really I'm just shit posting and reading the thread and seeing what's changed in 40K land. The gender fluid part is that I'm old and I don't like change, I'm use to hetero/homo/bi/and transexuals, not all these other genders. Also, Hivefleet Behemoth because that's when I got into 40k

>>52910907
No its not, you retard, it will be a mod to hit

>>52910938
>manlet eldarfag doing anything other than shutting up and buying more shit resin models

Son if autistic ham-fisted Ork players didn't already torch GW after years of abuse, your skinny ass ain't doing shit

>>52910951
I'm getting old too.

I miss guess weapons when a good eye was need to land those goblin or nova cannon shots.

The good old day eh? Now the kids can pre messuare everythint with no real skill or learning curves needed.

>>52910779
I would expect dark lances to become poison for vehicles
>When attacking a VEHICLE, this weapon always wound on a 3+ unless it would wound better anyway

>>52910922
Shit anon, I'd take that deal if you're still offering.

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>>52910956
Nope. This isnt Shadow War. Its a mod to armour. Plz kill self.

Another question for you anons. So far what are your likes and dislikes about the rule changes we've heard about? And what would you change?

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>trust us when we say we may be entering the age of the flamer as the go-to special weapon of infantry squads the galaxy over
AWW YEAH, SORORITAS' TIME TO SHINE

Civilized Xenoposters play Eldar, Tau and Necrons.

>>52910946
Flamers best weapon to take out vehicles or high wound count single unit models?

Melta better be awesome or my SoB will be sad when purging. 1d6 shot is not as satisfying as placing a template covering everything

But I can pretend every Flamer is a mini Exorcist

>>52911006
>trusting twatter

>>52911009
>Eldar should be the peak of "fast, hard but brittle"
>Hence 5+ save, 8" movement, and hitting on 3s

>>52910907
Clearly this information is fake and gay.

Also inb4 "THEY'RE DUMBING EVERYTHING DOWN" when having cover affect to-hit and not to-wound, after you've been hit already, makes a lot more sense. Not just to newbies, but to fucking people with common sense.

>>52911019
>Necrons
>Civilized

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>>52911006
>Anonymous sources mean anything
Hi fake news

>>52911050
It's not anonymous, it's from Pete's personal twitter account

>>52911035
As long as Battle Focus doubles base movement and Fleet is extra movement to get you out of charge range.

>>52911020
>Flamers best weapon to take out vehicles or high wound count single unit models?
Good luck consistently getting past toughness and armor with a S4 AP- weapon in any sort of efficient number.

>>52911050
Feel free to cite the "pretty well known GW employee" making the claims, then.

Until then, hearsay.

>>52910434
>I honestly see nothing wrong with this.

Of course you don't, you're not fucking anyone anyway so it's not like it makes a difference.

>>52911020
we dont know the to wound table yet but taking the 7th editions right now it would take 18 flamer hits to rip down 1 wound of a dreadnought that has been leaked (6's to wound, 3+ save against it). not really effective.

i can imagine a melta dealing 2d6 damage within its melta range.

>>52911075
So Eldar flyers die in one flamer shot?

>>52911075
This.
Flamers will be excellent against flamers and lone infantry characters.

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>>52911019
thanks for the vote, anon!

>>52911050
You can find the tweets yourself shitlord.

>>52909914
>D weapons, for example, are gone,
ATLAST! BASED GDUBZ!

>>52911098
Hopefully. Fliers are just an annoyance at this point in 7th.

>>52911075
Well I can always use the GW dice (the one that came in dice looking box) those land on 6 more often than any other dice I had.

We tested them. They landed way more six than any other dice.

>>52911113
> What does combined arms even mean

>>52911110
>I'M NOT HERE TO EDUCATE YOU!1!!
Go back to tumblr, faggot. If you make claims, substantiate them.

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>>52911114
mfw I lend then to my opponent for Ld rolls

>>52911090
https://twitter.com/GeekJockPete/status/856935170997465089

Get shit on

>>52911152
>Does the thing I asked him to do
>"Get shit on"

>>52911172
I'm not that guy, just felt like proving you wrong

>>52911180
>Just felt like proving you wrong
Proving what wrong? My claim was that the original tweet was unsourced, which it was. Posting sauce isn't proving anything wrong.

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>>52911172
>you will never get shit on so hard you can't even comprehend what happened

>>52911150
The white dice from those set are the abnormal 6 results the rest work fine, except some greens that tend to give 2 a lot.

We notice the pattern an proceed to test the dice sets for months writing every result. Back when we had more time to do stupid shit like that

>>52911201
>>52910956

>>52911006
>recognize random turns was stupid
>..bu..but we're keeping it for AoS

WTF?

>>52911201
Kek get rekt

>>52911205
Different person, my first post was >>52911050

>>52910284
>>52910301
Calling your bulltshit out. You must have only played against morons who didn't know they had up to 2" for unit coherency.

>>52911222
who cares bitch

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>>52911121
>deserves
elaborate

>>52911204
Is this Maelstrom dice?

>>52911219
>This post is unsubstantiated, please source it
>Posts source
>Somehow rekt by doing what I asked them to do

>>52911019
If these 3 get a grand alliance, you might as well not play the game anymore cause you will never legitimately win a game again.

>>52911225
No, just playing on proper tables where the perfect 2" that some people claimed was need to avoid blast and templates was always possible.

>>52911251
not even close, gib $20 please

>>52911225
Nid players clump up to take advantage of cover.

>>52910796

Honestly the more GW posts pictures like that the faster they'll get rid of the /pol/ turbo autists.

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>>52911232
The first batch of picture related

White dice landed 6 a lot more while the green ones landed 2 a lot.

Later sets didn't had this problem

>>52911006
>No shooting into and out of combat

The more I read about the upcoming edition, the more I'm confident GW hasn't created 40k AoS.
It looks like they actually put some real effort into this, I almost can't believe it.

>>52911242
>implying mixed armies are viable

>>52911251
No my retarded friend. What I'm asking is: Why do they deserve to be gassed? and What to you believe will be the outcome?

>>52911292
You can shoot into combat in AOS?

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>>52911260
>>52909914
Fuck off.

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>Imperium
Oldfags that remember the good old glory days, but hopeful that 8th will recapture some of what's been lost

>Chaos
Alt-righters posting about race and gender politics

>Tau
Newfags that haven't been around long enough to know the glory days, who are still naive and optimistic about GW

>Eldar
Oldfags who remember the good old Glory days and don't see any evidence things will improve, and are considering jumping to another system but feel tied to 40k after enduring it for so long

>Necrons
Quit the game during 5th edition and are just now coming back to see how everything has progressed in their absence, and are jumping back into the game with 8th

>Orks
Shitposters alternating between attacking and defending 8e just to stir the arguments

>>52911279
>Got one of those dice sets for free but never used them because of already having dice

Damn, maybe I should try them

>>52911292
Imperial Agent codex is a thing they made.

So remember: "Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment"

>>52911310
>>52911284

>>52911275
I just really don't like the wave of poltards getting in here all the time. There's a reason those cancerous guys have their own board. But they just can't stay calm and post about dicerolling with tiny plastic miniatures. They have to push their fucking fetish into everything. They're worse than ponyfags, by a wide margin.

>>52911308
You can shoot into and out of combat, at anything you like. A dude with a bow can fire at the dude trying to stab him, or even something else, and still make close combat attacks as well. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so stupid.

>>52911302
How long have you been fucking playing? TauDar was the absolute best when they were proper allies. It's the reason why Imperial armies are so great, not many are that good on their own but combined they can do pretty much anything.

>>52911325
Mind you later batches had more random results.

Give it a try you might find some legal and broken dice to play.

>>52911323
>Chaos description
Nah, that's just a nidleaf shitposter

They better not fuck up bladestorm just because bolters have no rend.

>>52911358
>random results
that my be because your rolling dice.

>>52911341
Not so sure about the ponyfags.
At least I don't have to deal with pol when I play, unlike the pony themed armies.
Damn those are cringy and I have fucking tit bdsm models on the table

Will Guard v Marines/Nids/Tau/everything be fun now?

>>52911373
easy way would be to just make them AP -3 on a 6 to hit or something like that.

>>52911391
>fun
>existing
No

>>52911377
Oh you.

The point was that a batch of white dice landed on 6 way more often than just random. To the point of reliably use of said dice.

>>52911373
Why would they do that after gutting bolters? Eldar can live with a few cutbacks as well.

>>52911373
If Kelly got his way Bladestorm means a 6 to wound has a -20 armour modifier and does D66 damage.

And you get additional points to use for your army for each shurican weapon your army has

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>>52911403

So in the new modifier system, what happens if it gets modified past 6+? Like a lascannon shooting at carapace armor 4+ -3 would be 7+, so is that just a completely nullified save or does it cap out at 6?

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Tempted to start a Tyranid army in 8th. Is this a bad idea? New to the game btw

>>52910985
Sure.
It's from continental EU, if you're still interested drop a disposable mail address.

>>52911424
If you want to do it then yes, it's a good idea

If you mean from a meta perspective, we have no idea

>>52911415
You don't get a save.

Flamers vs light vehicles could lead to some cinematic fun

>>52911443
Gotcha, cool

>>52911426
It's because they all look the same. You might as well fuck at that point. A hole is hole.

Now back to bitching about 8th

>>52911424
We know absolutely nothing about what 8e will mean for Tyranids so

>>52910972
There is literally no skill in guessing distances so small, it was just annoying especially growing up with the metric system and playing 40k.

>>52911449
We know a few things, namely chargers attack first and that gaunts will have a much higher base movement speed than other infantry

>>52911415
Assumably it will mean no armour save. Though untill we know the entirety of the armour modifier rules we can't be sure.

>>52910012
looks more Slaanesh to me with the pink and the horns on one side.

>>52909914
How do fuck does the Close combat "activating" work? It sounds overly complex if im reading it right

>>52910900
Funny coming from a 'muhhhhh easy free thoughtless template hits are gone now I have to think' snowflake!

See how dumb that kind of argument sounds?

>>52911415
most likely completely nullified.

potentially 7+ and worse saves could be handled the same way shadowwar handles to hit rolls 7+, you need a 6+ and then a 4+. 8+ save is 6+/5+
but i expect 8e won't do that in the interest of simplicity.

>>52911471
The whole video is a death guard advertisement. It's just pink because why not

>>52911459
Git Gud

I come from the metric system and it was not a problem. You are just bad

>>52911464
>gaunts will have a much higher base movement speed
My xeno cock can only get so hard

>Toxicrene
>Harsupex
>Exocrine
>pyrovore
>tyrannocyte
>tervigon
I fucking hate whoever added these pieces of trash

>>52911371
oh god this is like talking to a 3 year old.
Yes I understand you want to gas the deviants, but why?

>>52911479
I hope it's just nullified, doesn't make much sense to have them do double rolls

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>>52911323
the fuck are you trying to say here my dude.

>>52911364
>spotted the leaf.
nobody cares about that shit 3rd world country

>>52911475
But anon with no positioning you don't have to Think at all!

Is more kid friendly now.

Estimated range are god send, pre measuring ruined 40k

>>52911459
Where do you live that your rulers didn't have centimeters on one side and inches on the other?

>>52911445
Ever heard of flamers being stuck through a viewport or something of a tank before bringing the heat ?

That shit is fucking horrifying. Just imagine being one of the tank crew when that happens.

>>52910124
They can do more than one wound at a time now tho.

>>52910427
Same, I just built some Kataphron breachers last weekend and am wondering how our haywire guns will change.

>>52911497
why?
they're cool.

also haurspex and exocrine are from 2e

This is all getting very similar to Warzone 2nd Ed.

>>52911492
To be fair its just an assumption so far that gaunts will be fast. Ive honestly always imagined space marines as being like freight trains and very fast moving. Edge of Tomorrow style.

>>52911471
>Nurgle symbol
>Flies
>Missing teeth
>Boils

>>52911511
That's what the finns did during the winter war. Dropped molotov cocktails into russian tanks and burned the crew alive

>>52911518
>Rules that were in older editions of 40k
>This is like X new shit wargame.

>>52910900
>In before muhhhhh 2" spacing is hard and I need my safe space

It's a needless slow down. Same with blasts. And at least for Flamers you'll probably get more Hits with a d6 than with the Template.

>>52911511
That's pretty much exactly what I was thinking.

>>52911475
It's assigning more parts of the game to pure luck, now no matter how badly you positioned your troops or how close they got to you with a flamer, it's still d6 with every chance of doing a single hit.

>>52911526
No it's not, the lead designer said that eldar will be faster than guard, and gaunts will be faster than both

>>52910721
Oh of course they're going to be BS 5+, you'd have to be an idiot to think otherwise.

>>52911539
>X new shit wargame
Warzone 2nd Ed. is from 98.

>>52911526
Well they have said that Eldar will be faster than Guardsmen and Tyranids will be faster than both. So expect sanic speed Lictors and swarming Gaunts.

>>52911526
not an asumption.
they told us in the reveal of the new profiles.

>Eldar will run faster than Guardsmen, and Hormagaunts run faster than both.

>>52911553
Well guard are not space marines are they.

>>52911553
>Find out Guard are M4-5
>Eldar are M6
>Gaunts are M7

>>52911565
And these rules are from like 1980ies.

>>52910446
No but in some ways it should be. Both Flamethrowers and Molotov's were invented as anti tank weapons

>>52911541
You'll get more (On average) against smaller elite units and less against swarms of trash. Literally the opposite of how you would expect those weapons to work.

>>52911584
Space marines are M6

>>52911567
Specifically gaunts. Other Nids will probably be slower.

>>52911518
MY DARK ARMOURED BROTHER
TRENCHERS ARE LIFE

>>52911541
I'll give you a partial agree there, IF we use templates I want partial hits
Otherwise yeah, just give me a dice roll, say it represents a sweep of the flamer if it would hit less as a template and enemies jumping away if it would have hit more.

> tfw guardian move 8" gaunts move 10"
> footdar even less viable than before, yet people complain about jetbikes baka

>>52911588
So? It took GW like 6 editions to go back to what Warzone did in 2.

>>52911541
Not as fun.

Burning people will be the as shooting people.

The satisfaction of the template even if the chance of hitting more than 6 was none existing in the MSU edition.

Blast are shit in almost every edition but templates worked fine most of the editions even in MSU land

>>52911595
Well yeah, I imagine it will be like Space Marines vs Terminators, with Gaunts being super speed whilst Hive Guard plod along behind them.

>>52911415
Possibly like Ao S. Saves (and other rolls) can go past 6, but you need other modifiers to succeed. So being in cover, being buffed by psychic powers or abilities, etc.
I'm betting this will be the same.

>>52911587
I'm sure the guy sticking his dick consensually into another guys ass in the confinements of his bedroom is a massive threat to society equal to the murderers.

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>>52911598
Insanely good taste.

>>52911615
Well, 40k didn't die and then need to be remade.

Warzone was hardly a unique Wargame if it copied 40k's old rules.

>>52911323
I'd a dyed in the wool Chaos player and I'm cautiously optimistic.

>>52911497
To be fair I like the idea of all of them, tervigon can sometimes do ok, tyranocye is decent, the rest are pretty trash

>>52911587
So does your re-form system apply to others who are Classified as mentally ill and/or societal outcast and/or unemployed and/or a potential health and safety problem?

>>52911634
I wonder how clowns will compare.

>>52911645
In theory that is one less potential baby. So one less human. Same as murder.

But in practice who you fuck does not matter as long they are kept under the 10%

Now how does this affect rolling dice and miniatures?

>>52911511
Viewports arent just holes in the tank, they usually have extremely THICC bulletproof glass inside them that can be replaced from inside.

>>52911491
On the contrary, it's because it's still now very well viewed by the parents. Just a classic case of restricting a kid too much and him/her ending up foing the exact thing because of curiosity/contradiction.

>>52911661
Just because you last the longest, doesn't mean you're the best. Case, and point, 40K.
And Warzone was entirely different from 40K from the outset.

>>52911646
My first ever minis, it's missing the heavy though.

>>52911550
Congrats, you play a tabletop game where things are resolved with dice rolls.

Go play chess.

>>52911676
Good question, but why do stormniggers always, and I mean in every single 40kg for days, with no end in sight, bring shit like this even up?

>>52911676
Gassing people is also murder >.>

I'm noticing the "1" after rapid fire in the bolter profile. Are there any Rapid Fire 2+ in 7e? Or is that something new. Last time I looked at the 7e bolter profile it just said rapid fire

>>52911645
Its impossible to consent to gay sex, jesus doesn't consent to it.

>>52911681
Still not*

>>52911695
Guaranteed replies instead of report+hide.

holy shit can you retards take this dumb fucking argument somewhere else please

So a lot of things are getting more wounds but the weapons aren't more potent? What's so fun in having nothing die?

>>52911687
There's a store in Ireland, Prince August, that still sells the Blood Berets boxed game and the Warzone 2nd Ed starter box with 40 Bauhaus and 40 Imperial Militia. That's 4 Heavies, 4 Captains and 32 Regulars per side. Dice, rules, characters books (think codex) and templates all included. I picked up one of each last year. Blood Berets is still fucking great.
http://shop.princeaugust.ie/tg2420-warzone-mutant-chronicles-tabletop-wargame/?setCurrencyId=2

>>52911707
Rapid fire didn't used to have any associated numbers.

>>52911707
No.
It may be a way of consolidating salvo and rapid fire maybe.

>>52911695
We got popular that is why.

>>52911697
Not if you only kill the bad people. Everyone is equal, but some are more equal than others.
:^)

>>52911727
there's another better 40kg here >>52905660 this is /pol/ containment