choose wisely tg

>>52889136
Castle. Fucking Marksmen and Crusaders wreck your shit every time.

>>52889136
Dungeon is patrician-tier choice. Any real adventurer can go underground and carve a kingdom out for himself, and from there on it's an endless competition of who's the baddest.

Rolled 2 (1d9)

>>52889136
Dolling. 7 please

>>52889136
What is this? Can someone give me a quick rundown?

>>52889136
Tower.
Solmir.

>>52889136
Necropolis here.

It's the thinking man's evil.

>>52889177
Heroes of Might and Magic 3.

>>52889136
Fortress and Bronn

>>52889177
europeans
treehuggers
early 19 century capitalists
ayylmao deamons
underground jews
D&D random encounter table
skellies
remove

>>52889203
Opps, menat Tazar

>>52889136
I choose you, Anon~.

>>52889173
rampart, i like it, hight def city, double shot on elves, blinding unicorns and dragons are ballin.

but it was total pain when enemy casts frenzy or hypnotize and roots half your own army

Dungeon. Now make it /tg/-related.

>>52889182
>5500 power liches
this homm3 version of 60 multi meltas

>>52889205
>treehuggers
>That time where Dwarves are also considered tree huggers.

Game?

>>52889205
oh and lizards, but they are forgettable at best

>>52889251
heroes of might and magic 3

I prefer Heroes 5 ToE

>>52889273
I bet you like fallout 3, faggot.

>>52889273
It's okay anon, you are allowed to be wrong

>>52889205
You skipped one

also lmao at "random encounter table" but you're not wrong.

>>52889136
Necropolis

>strongest faction
>best aesthetics
>bestest fucking music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lQTbRY2xWY

>>52889273
Me too. Fuck everyone else.

>>52889308

I played tons of HOMM2, so 3 left me feeling kind of meh. I by-far enjoyed the graphics of 2.

>>52889136
Five because octogon master race.

>>52889294
>random encounter table
Half of the Heroes 3 faction line up were basically that

Necropolis, if allowed, or Inferno.

>>52889136
Dungeon, obviously
second best music, best aesthetic, best creatures, FUCKING BLACK DRAGONS

>>52889317
I actually prefer the graphics of I, lol.
All in all, I, II and V were all better than III's decidedly vanilla D&D style.
(let's not remember IV)

>>52889328
Speaking of style only, I absolutely hate V's green glowy undead.

I hate this modern aesthetic of undead = green glow.

V had too much glow in general for my tastes.

>>52889317
>>52889328
meh, I love both 2 and 3 equally
I even like 4 (dat music...), but I don't consider it HoMM. it's just a nice game unrelated to Heroes in any way form or shape for me

>>52889342
Agreed, 4 would be better if it dropped the "Heroes" part and embraced the RPG or even left the M&M universe entirely.

>>52889328
Hereoes IV is great accually

>>52889136
If power is a concern and depending on map size I would go either Necro or Stronghold. I like Rampart the most, starting hero with Logistics or Finance, and then not buying slow units for fun.

>>52889349
Debatable, but the graphics were fucking dogshit no matter how you look at it.

>>52889349
Agreed, rpg styled campaigns are awesome

>>52889348
>left the M&M universe entirely
it did... through a portal... in the opening cutscene

>>52889356
I don't mind the graphics at all accually.

>>52889369
You know what I mean.

>>52889356
>>52889349
It was good, but it made a bunch of mistakes; graphics were terribad, and the stupidly granular combat map made calulating the optimal move hard for no real benefit.

Also, general imbalance and also, removing hero-specific abilities in the game that most focused around heroes.

>>52889371
I still can't get the black dragons jumping on their fat bellies out of my memory.

32167

>>52889273
My general favorite is HoMM3, but part of that is for sentimental reasons and that I enjoy the campaigns.

For competitive multiplayer, both 5 and 3 are equally great.

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>>52889384
What?

>>52889383
Sure, no game is perfect. Hero-specific abilities is something I really miss but I don't really get why everyone is hating on the graphics.

>>52889328
>I actually prefer the graphics of I, lol.

1 and 2 are very very similar but I liked the battle screen of 2 better than 1

(Also I played 2 first, so because they are so similar, 1 feels like "2 but with some of the cool stuff removed," while 3, because it ISN'T so similar, feels like "2 but with more cluttered graphics and with the rules changed too much")

>>52889423

And like, 3 is probably """objectively""" better than 2 but it's just not to my taste. 2 came first.

>>52889428
I think 2s forking campaign was a lot better than 3s "you can carry over heroes and some magic items"

What about pirate city from HotA mod?

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>>52889136
>muh HoMM castles

>no one ever mentions King's Bounty castles
>no one ever mentions Majesty castles
>no one ever mentions Disciples castles
>no one ever mentions Stronghold castles
>no one ever mentions Eador: Genesis castles

FUCK

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>>52889415
That's the animation. Why did you have to post it?..

>>52889447
Disciple castles are boring fuckery. 5pixel height tower upgrades, fuck them.

>>52889451
>pic
So, what percentage of this thread is russians?

Anyone here fond of 4 just for the very well written campaigns?
Sure they tried some shit that didn't work but Gauldoth the Half-Dead is best necromancer of the year, all years.

>>52889461
Homm thread so sonething around 70%+

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>>52889136
may I remind you of number 10?

>>52889461
Oкoлo пoлoвины, пoтoмy чтo тpeд o Гepoях.

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>>52889136
Necropolis all day, every day

>>52889464
Campains and music. Combat/units are meh. Rpg elements are ok.

>>52889469
>>52889473
So, what's with Russians and HOMM? Is it like what Starcraft is for Koreans?

гo в гepoeв пo хaмaчи

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>>52889459
I liked the Disciples towns, they looked very surreal. Too bad about the bland music.

>>52889485
Pretty much, yes.

It's a cult game for those born in the 80s and 90s. Master of Orion is another Russian cult game.

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>>52889447
Disciples II maps look gorgeou. Castles not so much besides the Undead Hordes.

>>52889136
5.

I need room to park my Dragon

>>52889485
Not like that but its very popular in postsoviet countries.

>>52889447
>>52889498
>>52889504
Disciples are fucking patrician tier
especially 2
3 are fine, even though combat was extremely boring

I loved the music though. kinda bland, but veeeeery atmospheric

>>52889485
Wouldn't say so. But everybody over the age of 16 knows about HoMM.

>>52889464
4 had good writting but I hate how they deliver it, you had wall of text at the start at the map and then nothing until the end.

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>>52889340
>>52889328
>HoMMV could be this

>>52889136
Disciples II was the objectively better universe, game, and style.

Just kys, OP

>>52889519
>3 are fine
Dude, no.
The graphics were shit and inconsistent with the previous instalments, the gameplay was boring, the lore got completely fucked up. We'll probably never get another sequel because of that game.

>>52889447
Every portrait in Disciples is in uncanny valley, except demons.
And I can't get myself to play Eador without picking up necromancy, it's just sooo useful

>>52889521
>>52889507
>>52889499
Russians in general are passionate about strategy/RPG fantasy/historical games of the 90s/00s. Think about it:
>Eador: Genesis
>Majesty
>Space Rangers
>King's Bounty
>Disciples
>Cossacks
>Gothic
>Allods
>HoMM
>Master of Orion
>Stronghold
Etc., I can continue about it endlessly.

>>52889527
That could have been amazing

*casts spell*

Rolled 2 (1d8)

>>52889136
Random all day

>>52889340
I like to think that green glow was stolen from warpstone-powered undead of Nagash.

>>52889531
HoMM3 had much better music and its style wasn't bad for kitchen sink setting

>>52889451
I don't see nay fat belly or any jumping on it

>>52889532
yeah, but music was fine and design while inconsistent was quite awesome. dat engraved metal everywhere...

>>52889531
Disciples II had 0 variety. There was one way to play the factions optimally, and that's it.

Talking of Heroes III, has anyone else here tried Horn of the Abyss?

>>52889566
>There was one way to play the factions optimally
Are you saying there is more than [[1]] best way to do something?

>>52889546
>Stronghold
Ruskies have good taste, that game was the shit.

The unit voices are etched in my brain forever.

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Is there any system for playing in Might&Magic universe?

I want to fuck around Enroth or Xeen on the tabletop, coz MM games feel kinda restricting

>>52889136
Dungeon. Snake pussy all day every day.

>>52889575
I did, and I didn't like cove

>>52889556
HoMM V was basically Warhammer: the TBS, so that wouldn't surprise me in the least.

>>52889546
>>52889594
>FEEL THE POWER!
>You are the SECOND greatest lord!
>You are the third greatest lord!
>You are the fourth greatest lord.
>You are... ahah... ahahahaa!

every. fucking. time.

>>52889586
There's different options that can be situationally worth more or less.

In HoMM, finding the best move isn't always obvious. In Disciples, it is much more so. You never, ever touch half the buildings/upgrades if you want to actually win.

Then again, it's been literally more than a decade since I played Disciples last, maybe the meta evolved since and I was just a scrubby scrub.

>>52889566
Wow, that's completely wrong. One example: the witch hunters and the templars are god tier against the demons and meh against everyone else. The best strategy always depends on what faction you're playing against and often on your objective as well. With the exception of a couple of utterly broken units, such as the elven gatling archers.

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>>52889546
Well, all of them are pretty good.
Is it just me, but it's seems that even shitiest strategy-game has some charm.

>>52889356
As someone who's a big fan of IV, and thinks it brought a number of improvements with it (many of which I had been wishing for for years before it was released), I agree. The graphics and design were the fucking worst.

Did anybody played Heroes 7?

>>52889639
Wouldn't you literally always go templars because they take a lot less time to upgrade and have massively superior stats anyway?

Or am I mixing this up?

could HoMM be made into tabletop?

>>52889663
Nope, didn't play Heroes 6 either

>>52889639
Okay, we found one.
Did anyone ever take mages that turn shit into imps over the AOE fire dudes?

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>>52889670
>tfw ubisoft killed duel of champions
Fuck them, the game was good.

>>52889664
Unless you are against the undead with their typical mass paralyze and didn't get right gear for immunity/ward.

>>52889609
It was just real neat to hear them all with slightly different dialects. You could tell what sort of social class the different soldier types were drawn from immediately.

>>52889684
>you will never rush Kal-Azar with Cassandra barracks again
Fuck that game was good

>>52889663
tried out Heroes 6, and while I didn't find it as bad as others did, I wasn't too much impressed either, so I lost all interest in further Heroes products

>>52889684
>HoMMstone
I dunno how I feel about it
and I meant as close translation of vidya into tabletop, not just a random thing using names/graphic from the game

have a map, pick up resource tokens, build castle, etc...

>>52889598
>russian filename

>100 replies in, and only 2 dudes tried to tie this thread to /tg/

>>52889720
HoMM and Disciples are /tg/ approved, it's okay to talk about them herewith or without tying them to actual /tg/s

>>52889664
Unless you're playing on a small map, it's better to aim for a phantom warrior. He's one of the few units that can handle a castle siege.

>>52889683
Man, Incubus were best unit to take down capital defender

>>52889683
The real question should be whether to take petrification mages over fire mages, and the answer is not so clear.

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>>52889720
>everything on the board must align with my version of /tg/ related
Don't board police, anon, you're better than this

>>52889683
while their damage is obscene, if you're running a mage hero, he can do their job in a pinch, and demons have no other CC, iirc

plus, Fire Ward spells and artefacts.

>>52889711
>HoMMstone
It was released before Hearthstone and had lots of mechanics like tutoring, flexible deck size, player tournaments, etc, HS still doesn't have.

>>52889757
Hey, it's alright to talk about them, but it can be even alrighter. I want my M&M TTRPG, dammit

>>52889757
But it's okay if aligns to your version, right?

>>52889302
FFFFFFFF-!
reinstalling.
fuck.

>>52889777
Just let people have their discussions in peace. You don't need to be here

>>52889325
once you go black you never go back.

and dungeon with deemer here so man hours of hot seat with mates from school.

>>52889761
It was fucking amazing.

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Best Might and Magic coming through

>>52889471
the fuck is this

>>52889831
Cove, pirate town from some popular mod called Horn of the Abyss.

>>52889800
>You don't need to be here
Well, of course. And there will be less reasons for me to visit this place when there is more off-topic than actual traditional games.

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>>52889831
Cove, from Horn of the Abyss expansion
yes, it's fanmade, but very-well made

>>52889827
I just want to make a streamlined HoMM game using those graphics.

>>52889761
Somehow I forgot about the graveyard and that alone had huge impact on the game

>>52889136
Damn, the only HoMM part where I recall all factions as being entertaining and never could decide on which to play.

Necropolis I guess. Raising dead is neat, no morale problems, milling mercenaries into skeletons. But the lack of early ranged units always bugged me.

Keeps crashing on windows 10 :(

>>52889878
Get the latest HD mod. Works flawlessly for me.

>>52889531
BTFO newfag

>>52889447
Hey, Disciples had awesome factions - fluff wise. Always Horde, all the fucking way.

>>52889884
HD mod doesn1t have any expansions or random map generation.

It's not terrible, but those are sorely missed.

>>52889847
>>52889840
Where can I find this mod?
Does everyone use it?
Thank (you)

>>52889761
Also the positionning aspect really add strategy to the game.

>>52889909
Not the official HD version, the unofficial HD mod that's better in every way.

Comes with a ton of comfort features for army management and general gameplay, better random map generation templates, compatibility, more resolutions (but no scaled up graphics), works with all the expansions and the fanmade HotA expansion.

There's really no reason to not use the HD mod.

>>52889921
http://www.hota.acidcave.net/download.html

a lot of people use it
even if you're not interested in new town, it fixes a lot of things, bugs, finishes some unfinished or slapdash stuff, etcetera.

>>52890055
Usable with steam HD version?

>>52890069
no idea
it changes and adds a lot of stuff, adds a whole new castle, has its own launcher/patcher... so probably not

>>52889447
>>52889536
I'm a fan of all those games but never tried Eador, is it good? Which one should I play? Grafix are not a problem as long as it runs well.

>>52890069
No (unless something changed). If you don't want to pirate, buy the GOG version and download HotA and the HD Mod.

You get a way better experience than with the Steam version anyway, that thing's a scam.

>>52890116
>>52890069
note that there's no moral obligation whatsoever not to pirate Heroes III, as the guys who made it, NWC, are over a decade since out of business

>>52890131
bbbut am afraid of trojan virusez in pirate versions

>>52889827
Overrated, desu.

>>52890145
just get it from Pirate Bay. the ones with most seeders and trusted sign by uploader's name are perfectly safe

>>52889827
I know you're trolling, but I'm still angry.

>>52890110
I played Masters of the Broken World. Dunno about other Eadors.
So, you're a god of a Shard of a shattered world, you conquer neutral shards and contest over shards claimed by other gods. You are very powerful in astral, but on material plane, you're small and almost powerless. You do the conquests and management through "Heroes". Provinces can be conquered by force, or taken over by gold, diplomacy and intrigue.

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>>52890206
I deny it, Necropole is my favorite faction by far because necromancy is awesome

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>lel necro are da bes cuz my ebin randum skelly armies lmfao xddddd

Are there any faggots more annoying than necro fags?

>>52890255
It's a very competitive environment, but you do give them a run for their money.

Keep up the good work.

>>52890182
Why is he trolling? Clash of heroes was a pretty good game and neatly sidesteps trying to outdo heroes 3.

>>52890255
Fortress fags
>battles last forever, because slow defensive units
>castle fucking impregnable
>fucking swamp cuts movement speed to like zero
>heroes with high def and water and earth magic making units unkillable

fortress fags may rarely win but they will make you wish you surrendered while losing

>>52890255
Not randumb skelly armies, just getting units back when you lose them, but their last unit is absolutely shit

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What do I use for M&M on my tabletops?
If I try to do it in D&D... It feels like it'll need too much houserules.

>>52890293
It halves HP of units with a debuff man

The fifth game had the best looking town screens. What can I say, I'm a sucker for the majestic.

>>52890321
Yeah but it's of no use when it can barely come close to the enemy units

>>52890350
The amount of bottles I filled with my fresh cummies while watching the sky floating city with its epic music

>>52889163

This man gets it. Arcane power + menagerie of monsters = win.

>2 stacks of marksmen
>divide archangels on all other stacks

I LIVE, I DIE, I LIVE AGAIN

>>52890255
No.
Castle for life.

>>52890314
Not with AD&D if you use Birthright.

>>52890350
Dwarven city was really disappointing. It's a fucking hole in the ground.

Academy and Haven on the other hand, hngh.

whats the best map for a quick game with one or two friends ?

>>52890493
All for one

>>52890206
A stupid man picks a weak faction and struggles to win.
A smart man just picks a strong faction.

>>52889136
A handful of objectively best opions coming through:
>Disciples 2 had amazing presentation all round, but gameplay was ultimately very basic and RNG aspect sucks at the end of the day
>Disciples III murdered the series harder than Heroes VI or VII
>Heroes IV actually had some good ideas, but more of them were bad. Also graphics were just mediocre sans adventure map
>Heroes V is good, but not as good as III. Skill system is hands down the best in the series
>Heroes VI and VII might as well not exist
>Ashan was a mistake

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oi lads

>>52889163
Mutare best waifu.

3>5>4>2>1>6>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>7

>>52890603
I agree with you.

>>52889136
Fortress.
I dont care that its underpowered, its the best choice and you know it.
Terror Cows, Basilisks, LIzardmangs, its got all the good stuff.
Who needs dragons? Huge swarms of Serpentflies is where is at!

>>52890603
I agree with you about 7, but 6 had a decent-ish campaign and the frog faction was refreshing.

That doesn't mean that the game is good, but it is at the very least playable unlike 7.

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>>52889447
IDK about those, but I love HoM&M3 and Age of Wonders 1 to about the same degree. Those two games defined fantasy for me.

>>52890603
These are good opinions. I actually really like HoMM5, but certain things like retarded enemy AI and loading times significantly impede how fun it could be.

>>52889203
>Not Korbrac

He doesnt even like Serpentflies. What a nerd!

>>52889349
The problem with HoMM 4 is not that its bad.
The problem is that its a strictly Worse Age of Wonders.

Also daily reminder:
>Demons are ayylmaos
>Angels are <probably> very advanced golems
>Gods are fake
>Blaster goblins were canon all along

>>52890711
>Age of Wonders
Now that's a thing I don't see mentioned very often

>>52890603
>gameplay was ultimately very basic
I disagree. Tactical battles were the only thing "basic" about it, and even that is questionable. It merely had the depth shifted from tactical battles to town planning and squad composition.

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>>52890678


>>52889546
You know, I believe it has to do with the fall of the Soviet Union. It was illegal to depict certain specifications of fictional settings (I think it might have been something like, 'where communism failed/never existed') and so when the Wall fell, the got a hold of slightly outdated computer games that they could run pretty decently even on dated computers, and on topics that they found novel fascinating.

>>52889136
Forge

>>52890711
Heroes IV had really nice adventure map, but at the end of the day things like skill system for hereos, lack of content, battle map that has this weird mesh thing and is cluttered, ugly graphics and animations make it really not that great. Still enjoyable tho
It actually had good writing tho
>>52890687
I have more problems with square-based battleground, weird initiative system and a lot of weird unit abilities
>>52890729
I don't agree desu. Whenevere I played D II, in most of cases the choice wasn't dictated by what i feel performs the best (because very often the odds are just overwhelmingly staked towards one path) but rather my whim. Not that its a bad thing inherently.

>>52890713
>tfw fags nEver played might and magic games
>tfw they cut out forge in favor of throw in a bunch of random elements

I get why people didnt like forge, but it was part of the setting ot begin with, demons were kreegans anyway.
The only problem with forge was that it wouldve been OP as shit and the design didnt have a lot of charm.

If they wouldve gone with a Wizardry esque route and make the Sci Fantasy charming instead of Dystopean people wouldve probably liked it.

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>>52890729
>Play spellcaster hero
>Nuke enemy hero and his stack
>win game

so tactical

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>>52890799
What I didnt like is that I'd prefer more units to be brand new, and not just modifcations of existing ones, but I guess there was a theme to it.

>>52890603
>Disciples 2 had amazing presentation all round, but gameplay was ultimately very basic and RNG aspect sucks at the end of the day
Adeventure map was boring as fuck, some elements was just there (shit-tier diplomacy, for example), "le art" was all over the place, to be honest.
>Disciples III murdered the series harder than Heroes VI or VII
Its a good yhing, actually. I wish Van Buren could have murdered Fallout.
>Heroes IV actually had some good ideas, but more of them were bad. Also graphics were just mediocre sans adventure map
Agree, but there were more good things in 4 (heroes in battle, interesting, but unbalanced magic, game felt more like kings bounty remake before kings bounty remake).
>Heroes V is good, but not as good as III. Skill system is hands down the best in the series
I still hate ashan, focking artstyle, garbage story, SIIIIEEEeT-tier adventyre map, that focking interface. Skills, battles, towns was good.
>Heroes VI and VII might as well not exist
I almost forgot about `em ,to be honest.
>Ashan was a mistake
Holy shit, ashan был eбaнoй oшибкoй.

>>52890628
Put 2`nd higher, пидop!

>>52889598
There's no published setting books but what stops you from using ANY SYSTEM EVER?

how do i inferno

>>52890252

You obviously don't know how this meme works. Work on your meme-fu and then comeback.

>>52890827
I liked D 2 graphics (even if models really got old). Also it has rather interesting plot I'd say.
Heroes in battle I'd say were a mistake in how they were done in V. In IV they sometimes felt ridiculous; and skill system only made it worse (either NOT have Combat and get squished at once or have it and demolish 40 black dragons in single 3-strike attack)
>>52890844
Beeline Efreets (the only decent unit in this town) and demon farm.

>>52890733
no, it wasn't illegal at all. not encouraged, but not illegal.
it's just were was very little fantasy published. if you wanted to write make-believe stories, please write about our future. no need to look in the past, no need to invent new worlds (unless those are other planets we visit from Earth)
past of childish fairy tales and historical fiction and legends.

still, there was some of that. there was Hobbit, there was some polish author who wrote a really cool, if tad childish, fantasy novel Golden Sphere, there were kinda-historical-but-very-romantic-fiction novels (Efremov's "At the Edge of Oikumene", for instance)


I'd say it was because all of USSR were constantly reminded of "building a greater coutry / brighter future" so Russians like strategies where they can do just that


>>52890844
charge with imps
throw magog fireballs
kill the imps as well as enemies
use pit lords to raise daemons from the dead imps
roflstomp with daemons

ah, whom I kidding, rush Archedevils and telefuck everyone. or get nothing but Efreeti and Armageddon things

>>52890806
Spellcaster heroes are super squishy, you're unlikely to level one up to the point where it wouldn't matter outside of the campaigns. Nosferatu being the exception.

>>52890803
funny thing they mention PJ, it's exactly how Hobbit the Movie was made

>>52890314
Try REIGN maybe?

>>52890879
>Russians like strategies where they can do just that
I just like comfy games with actual (even if its not perfect) gameplay, not tv-series with "choises". I also like board games, so turn-based stuff was always good for me.

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>>52890827
>Adeventure map was boring as fuck
I actually think DII still has the prettiest global map of all turn based strategies to this day. It really reminds me of Berserk.

>>52890711
>>52890723
I most likely sound like a fucking newfag, having never played AoW1 & 2, but I really like AoW3

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Not seeing a whole lotta love for Stronghold, shame on you people! Yeah, it's far from the strongest faction, but I just love 'em. Thunderbirds are the fucking shit, Cyclops are rad (especially in sieges) and Behemoths are fun fur-balls. Only one major criticism: FUCK CRYSTALS, YOU CAN NEVER FIND THAT SHIT!

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>>52891025
Stronghold is my favorite faction.

>>52890990
Yep, also animated flying birds, holy shit. Who would've thought they could add so much comfiness to the world?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dreCAMnfWY&list=PLABD4119AA01E7417&index=35

>>52889136
Stronghold, muthafuka.
https://youtu.be/1iNjldnNSPY

>>52891025
Stronghold is awesome but every HoMM3 faction besides elementals is awesome in its own right.

fuck you, Dis2fags, I'll do no work on my minis today because of you

>>52890990
It's nice, but sometimes it feels a little too crowded on the screen. but I suppose overcrowded is better than feeling barren by a longshot.

>>52891060
Fuck you, taste the might of my blessed fairy army!

KEKEKEKEKEKE

>>52890678
AoW 1 is kind of amazing, it's like more complex Warlords with some Master of Magic bit thrown in
AoW 2 went too far from Warlords towards MoM*
AoW 3 never tried

* MoM is a great game but that particular mixture didn't work

>>52891070
Bethrezen is pleased

>>52891082
fairies? bah!
6 phoenixes on 1st day of 3rd week, muthafucka

>>52891008
AoW2 isnt that different from AoW 3, the biggest difference was that units could actually miss their attacks as they didnt represent stacks, instead of varying damage like it is in AoW 3.

The other big difference were that siege battles in AoW2 could be approached from different sides, leading to way cooler siege battles.

AoW 3 is still a good game, dont listen to nostalgia fags.

Basically Age of WOnders 2 did everyhting HoMM 4 tried but did it better, which is one of the reasons HoMM 4 is an irrelevant game.

HoMM needed innovation, but Age of WOnders did it for them and actually did it far better. Thats why HoMM is stagnating and keeps shitting out the same game over and over again with minor adjustments to hero advancement.

>>52890951
Well, that text is from 2006, so Peter Jackson didn't shit his pants with the Hobbit yet

Tell me about Master of magic.

this thread is very comfy and full of love
i approve of this thread

>>52891149
I played dwarves with white magic city buffs and stupid amount of money/mana through conversion. Being scrub is so much fun.

>>52891124
>AoW 3 is still a good game, dont listen to nostalgia fags.
Are you referring to >>52891091? I simply never got around to playing it. I thought it was received very well when it came out, wasn't it?

>>52891149
Imagine Civ but in a fantasy world and with spell research instead of tech trees. That's your first approximation

>>52889447
>Eador castles

All eador castles are of the same options. It's the builds for them that are the shit

>>52890110
Genesis. MotBW is just Genesis with upgraded graphics and a handful of new units, but also performance and optimization issues. Genesis plays smoother and is just comfier.
MotBW had an exnasion pack to it though, haven't played it myself but from what I've heard it's the same core with dumb additions that aren't even useful.
Genesis also has an unoffical mod (New Horizons) that completely revamps many mechanics.

>>52891316
Is it easy enough to understand with the help of a tutorial/manual or do I have to do my homework?

>>52891360
Easy enough.

>>52889849
No shit, I had a whole deck revolving around reviving banshees.

>>52891218
No just general nostalgia fags that will shout that the newest installment of any series is always somehow worse than the last one.
They tend to exist.

>>52891449
Bethesda-"fallout" is objectivly shit, for example.

So, anybody here actually incorporates M&M elements into their tabletops?

>>52891534
I once based the overall political situation in a D&D campaign on HoMM. With the poorly defined borders, walled cities as the main unit of territory control, Heroes leading armies, the whole thing
Sadl, the campaign died fairly early but it was a fun excercise anyway

>>52891534
we have M&Ms on the table, does that count?

>>52891635
Are you a hero tho?

>>52891663
No, he's in a 1k peasant stack.

>>52889136
Dungeon with Jeddite. Immortality.

>>52891761
fun fact - in Heroes 2 peasants were Knight's first tier units

where others had fairies, skellingtons or fuckawesome centaurs, Knight had peasants

good thing army size was smaller than number of creature levels

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>>52891872
>underestimating the peasant

What's the difference between HOMM and AOW?

>>52891918
AOW is pure autistic tier shit that you play when you are a fag

>>52889136
Rampart. Sylvan centaurs & id you get Gelu, sharpshooters. If you don't start with a pathfinding hero you're a casual.

>>52889827
this looks fucking cute
like a cartoon network show

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(never seen it in english, so here's it from you with translation. dump incoming)

>TROGLODYTE'S LIFE

>"Where am I going?"

>>52891972
Supposedly its a pretty decent game in its own right

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>>52891977
>"Poor halfling! Look what you've done!"
>"I can't look. I'm a troglodyte."

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>>52891995
>"If only your father could see what you're doing here!"
>"My father is a troglodyte too."

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>>52892005
>"Just you wait! You won't blink an eye before we catch and tie you up!"
>"What eye? AAAAAAH-"

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>>52892026
>"Phew. Seems I made it. Thanks for help."
>"You better avoid killing midgets in humans lands. You see..."
>"I DON'T"

>>52889282
J>>52889461
Ivan vasilievich menyaet professi is one of my favourite movies. So funny

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>>52892041
>"Have a look at my wares, good customer."
>"FOR FUCK'S SAKE, I CAN'T!"

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>>52892061
>"So you wish to join our army?"
>"Yes, I do."
>"Okay, let's see what you're made of."
>"I hope you're not a troglodyte."

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>>52892078
>"This is how you attack properly."
>"HOW?"
>"WHO'S ASKING?"

>>52892078
>>52892061
>>52892041
>>52892026
>>52892005
>>52891995
>>52891977
Keep these up I'm having a blast

>>52892089
>"Enemy crossbowmen firing!"
>"WHERE?"
The end.

>>52892096
sorry, that's the last one

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>>52892112
forgot picture

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>>52889136

>>52892112
>>52892128
I really didn't see that coming

>>52892193
Are you a troglodyte?

>>52889136
rampart because dwarves and elves ftw

also comfy as fuck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0nhf1xl0Rg very cool nature and mountain in the distance

also more european than the pseudo european castle which is europe influenced by

>>52892228
Those japanese houses really do scream "Europe"

>>52891918
Aow1 is a larger in scope and your heroes actually fight.

>>52892228
influenced by the jewish desert religions

4, 5, 6 and 8 are all good strategically. I'll go 4 for the aesthetics.

>>52892078
>>52892061
>>52892041
>>52892026
>>52892005
>>52891995
>>52891977
Milking one lame joke to absurd levels: the webcomic.

>>52892337
I guess you didn't see any humor in it?

>>52892337
>hating fun
I guess one could say that you are an eyesore.

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>>52892250
They're hardly Japanese.

>>52892373
Whitewash the wooden parts of their castle and look again..

In the village below you got a fucking pagoda, and the manor down right goes all out with paper walls and sliding doors. Roofs a'la Shirakawa-go all around.

>>52892373
They are, though. Their architecture just screams of being Japanese.

>>52891030
Ahh. Ol crag hack the crazy damage dude

>>52892373
Anon are you a fucking blind retard?

>>52892567
must be a troglodyte

Rolled 3 (1d9)

>>52889136
Anything but 1 and 7 please

why do people dislike Fortress? i like it

>>52892641
Mediocre in terms of strength
Irrelevant lore-wise
Smelly

>>52892641
ebin necro players who won't play anything without skellies

>>52892228
>>52892250
>>52892373
>>52892439
The castle's pretty european hunting lodge, but most of the buildings are quite japanese.

>>52889302
You got good taste my high-melanin kinsman.

God tier
Castle with Sir Mullich
Rampart with Kyrre
Dungeon with Gunnar
Dessa with stronghold

Good tier
Necro isra/ vidomina
Rampart with Gelu
Tower/Castle with Dracon

Normal shit
Everything else

Shit tier
Inferno
Fortress
Conflux

I hope you guys play with Era II mod

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>>52892658
That's how a European specifically, Polish hunting lodge looks like.

>>52892678
>2017
>rating tiers

>>52891918
they're fairly similar but AoW has
the hero as one of the units
units can have multiple active abilities
there's a spell research system
city management is much much more simple
you can resettle cities with a different race
multiple packs of units (as in, all units from the attacked hex and its 6 adjacent hexes) can be in the same battle

that's about it

>>52893053
God tier
People who demonstrate their knowledge by winning games

Barely passable tier
People who make tier lists instead of winning games

Trash tier
People who bitch about tiers while losing games

Shit tier
The year 2017

>>52892678
Castle only with lyonis + leadership and water magic
Rampart- thorgrim/mephala, go def max armourer and resistance
Towers- Solmyr+ air magic and archery
Inferno- zydar or xarfax for that magic power bonus
Necropolis- Vidomina FTW
Dungeon- always gunnar
stronghold- Crag hack for the offensive bonus go full attack, behemoths ignore 80% of enemy armour
Fortress- tazar all day every day+ earth magic +ballistics to demolish enemy walls
conflux- shit hero list

>>52889447
Majesty was boss as fuck, shame about majesty2.

>>52889340
>I hate this modern aesthetic of undead = green glow.

Not just undead. Basically anything in a fantasy setting that is a tiny bit special for any reason will have a neon glow nowadays. LOOK PLAYER, LOOK THIS IS MAGICAL AND MYSTICAL.

I think Warcraft 3 success is partly to blame for these trends. Blizzard really revolutionized fantasy artstyle in the last 15 years.

>>52893288
Pretty sure glowy magic is as old as the genre is. Goes back at least to Tolkien (yes, I know he actually has a reason for stuff to glow, but as usual he's copied without a second thought)

>>52893353
Oh, yes, I'm not saying its a new thing, what I mean is that it is so used now it doesn't mean anything anymore, and its like designers and concept artists go into the territory of glowing lights way too soon and often without good reason.

You can think of 100 games that have caverns with cyan neon blue mushrooms lighting the whole place up and killing any mood of horror that could rise up. You can't think of 100 games that need you to carry a torch to light the way.

I think adding glow to something allows you to cover the fact your creation is cheap and rushed in the first place. It's also why most fantasy art produced in the last decade is speed painting shit instead of the detailed, flavourful art of pre-2000 years.

>>52889136
Always been found of Towers, not sure why.
Who am I kidding, it's because I love shooting people from afar like a little shit.

>>52893450
>why
Naga tits

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>>52893577
>naga tits
They are air bladders!

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oh hi thar

>>52889136
Dungeon

>>52889844
Good. You won't be missed.

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>>52889844
>more off-topic than actual traditional games

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>>52893577
Hell yeah !

>>52889136
Unliving 8 mustard race.

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>>52893577
>>52894255
>>52895206
snake pubes

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>>52895261
Wrong snek, anon.

>>52889136
I dare you to tell me Tower and Conflux aren't top-tier aesthetics.

>>52889136
Necropolis and Stronghold are my niggas.
Everything else is alright.
Fuck conflux and all of its retarded bullshit.

>>52889447
We would if anyof these game was actually playable and not a clusterfuck of "trying not to be HoMM" so much

>>52895720
Wanna know how I know you're a troll?

>>52895592
>conflux
>top tier anything

>>52896134
>conflux
>not the 2nd most OP city

>>52896241
Not him, but Conflux is probably more OP than Necro. Necro needs a lot of time/space to get that skeleton ball rolling. Conflux just immediately starts raping you with super powered tiers 1-3 and fuckawesome heroes. They're also fast on the overland map.

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>>52891030
Good.

>>52896516
Some nerd about to get fucked up.

>>52896516
>now peasants have 50 more attack than azure dragons even without skill bonus
Fucking terrifying.

>>52896729

They still have 1 damage, 1 hit point, and move of 3. Unless you get into numbers that are best expressed by scientific notation, they're practically no threat at all. Especially if your enemy knows mass slow or berserk.

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>>52889136
Am I the only one that always had a great boner for Sandro?

>>52896835
If you attack > than enemy's defence you get a damage % bonus. Heroes bible has the exact formula.

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>>52896849
You're not alone, skelebro.

>>52896849
No.

>>52896856
Yes, but my point is that you will never get a chance to attack, because your force is both slow and brittle, and your hero has no magic protection. Even if you do, you're talking in percentages of your 1 damage, which won't come out to much.

>>52896913
>teleport
>pshhh.... kidd....
But I'm just fooling around. I would never use peasants for anything besides their skeletons.

A skeleton of a man is faster, stronger, and does more damage than a man himself. Let that sink in for a minute.

>>52896939
What is there to sink in? Losing weight objectively improves your health and performance, it's obvious.

>>52896939
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU513suJZzY

daily reminder that if you do not convince people to join you with your diplomacy and then turn them into skeletons in skelly pit you know nothing

>>52896939
Can't cast teleport. It's a third level spell and you don't have wisdom.

As for the comparison, a skeleton is empowered by dark magic or whatever the fuck it is holds that thing together. It has a real weapon instead of a pitchfork. Plus it's not wetting itself with fear and not wanting to be there. 1v1, they're considerably weaker than a pikeman, which is also a man, just a man with some training and a decent weapon.

>>52889273
I like the skill system better but playing it feels so tedious compared to 3, even after nearly 20 years