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Reposting from last thread.

I need more tanks in my life, does anyone know if the Emperor's Fist Armored Squadron box comes with an accessory sprue for each tank?

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Post favorite favorite model from your most played (or current favorite) faction!

>>52885341
Don't bother. Tanks are going to be even easier to kill in 8th, trying to use them is pointless.

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>>52885426
Literally haven't played a single game of 40k since 4th edition, that's like telling me my Camry won't do well since NASCAR changed its regs.
I do Armies on Parade and a couple other modeling competitions, but mostly just build and paint for fun

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I am still deciding on my first proper army, I have some Skitarii I have painted, but they're from when I was just starting, so they're kind of ugly and falling apart from improper handling. So I ask for advice between Orks and Guard. I know advice for armies is a bit difficult due to 8th being right around the corner, but I genuinely can't decide. Orks, for a bunch of mek type units with some flyers, or maybe wait and see if rumours of plastic steel legion are true?

>>52885426
oh you've read the rulebook have you?

tell me more.

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>>52885474
>fun

>>52885487
Consider picking up some guard tanks as a middle ground. Either you get plastic steel Legion, or you can run them as looted vehicles for Orks

>>52885426

That's what people said at the start of 6E and were wrong.

Perhaps slightly off topic but anyone know why the newer pirated 40k rules ebooks are a mess, and perhaps how to fix them.

I was interesting in catching up with the Gathering storm lore, but the epub in the first link is a total mess, had to go with pdfs from the third link which aren't much use on my phone as I had intended but will do fine on my PC.

>>52885474
In that case, it's highly unlikely considering the Russ doesn't even come with an accessory sprue to begin with.

Spend $50 on a tank and they expect you to throw in another $15 just to get the rest of the bits. Typical GW.

>>52885490
>literally every unit in the game can hurt tanks in 8e with any weapon
Pretty sure that's gonna end up making it easier, yeah. Last I checked lasguns couldn't poke a Russ to death in the current rules.

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>>52885395
Well I see my attempt at a thread catalyst crashed and burned.

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2017/04/40k-live-faq-round-up.html

>Unit Rebalancing?
>"Everything is now a legitimate choice. Even pyrovores. Everything can hurt everything else because of the new types of profiles."

Tanks confirmed dying to grot guns.

>>52885572
>Spend $50 on a tank and they expect you to throw in another $15 just to get the rest of the bits. Typical GW.

>put the sprue as a separate optional product so people can pay for it if they want to
>FUCKING JEWS GIVE ME THE BITS
>add an extra sprue of accessories to a model kit
>FUCKING JEWS STOP CHARGING ME FOR ALL THESE BITS I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO USE

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>>52885395
>>52885599

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>>52885572
In that case, it's highly unlikely considering the Russ doesn't even come with an accessory sprue to begin with.

Holy fuck, for real? Well, that's not the end of the world, I can nab up 28mm stowage bits and such pretty easy, but that's lame. Thanks anon.

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>>52885395
Only model I own.

>>52885572
>Last I checked lasguns couldn't poke a Russ to death in the current rules

Last I checked any unit can hurt Riptides with any weapon. Doesn't make massed Lasguns against them viable.

Besides, the thing everyone always complained about with vehicles was getting one-shotted with explodes results. That's likely going to get removed in favor of heavier weapons rolling for damage, which means with more hullpoints tanks will be less likely to get oneshot, as well as that change also meaning anti-tank guns can actually oneshot MCs

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>>52885395

I like MANz but Ghazghkull and Kromlech MAN makes all the GW MANz look like gits.

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>>52885395
current favorite. about to start collecting.

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>HAHAHAH TANKS FAG BTFO
>YOU WILL BE USELESS HALF THE TIME HAHAHA

>What do you mean there are plenty other way to hit ?

>>52885645

I wish that angled Mk IV assault variant chest came in a non-BA variant. I love the way it looks, very angular and non-curved, non-40K. Like that Dornian Heresy Ultramarine armor.

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>>52885395

>>52885619
I am actually completely unfamiliar with any of the sprues for all the different IG tank variants, would you mind clarifying what you're talking about?

>>52885572
While true tanks can now be hurt by anything if a Landraider has high toughness 30 wounds and a 2+ save it would probably be harder to kill than now overall, so while this definitely won't be the statline I wouldn't automatically assume vehicles are paper.

As an aside is massed vehicles actually that good in 7th I see monstrous creatures far more.

>>52885646
>Main battle tanks will only be able to reliably hit large groups of enemies instead of other tanks or will have a half dozen different rules on how to hit things

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I am trying to get into tabletop warhammer, anyone have any tips on how to find players? I go to a uni, so I live around there.

Tips for newcomers would be appreciated aswell

>>52885620
A lot of AdMech stuff looks really intimidating to paint.

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>>52885395

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>>52885395
Not great on the table imo, but still looks cool as all get out.

>>52885686
It is. That bloody servo skull snapped off halfway through.
Cawl is exponentially worse.

>>52885686
Just get ready to go through 40 pots of leadbelcher and paint a fuckload of wires.

>>52885572
>Pretty sure that's gonna end up making it easier, yeah. Last I checked lasguns couldn't poke a Russ to death in the current rules
that's not that big a change. pretty much everything can do it in 8e, gaunts can (potentially) fleshborer a russ to death.for example. really it seems a decent move, now you can't end up in that shit scenario where 1 players remaining forces can't possivle hurt the others which is fun for neither player.

tanks are sure to be very high toughness and wounds which woukd make actually trying to kill them with lasguns unfeasible as anything but a desperate last resort.

>>52885619
Please kill yourself, regardless if you are actually a GW shill or not.

>>52885686
Just paint them as best as you can, nothing else matters, if you want some guidance look for Duncan videos, he makes everything look easy to paint

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>>52885395
Always have one on my lists and the model itself is great in its simplicity.

>>52885707
Really makes you feel like basic troops are going to be stealing necron warriors' turf fine by me, fuck them

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>>52885688
If those are yours, looking good anon. Nice crisp colors.

>>52885693
Pimp Daddy Warpsmith bout to bring the party!

>>52885681
Hey man, 8th edition is about to start up, so I'd just recommend reading the lore of the army you like best, buying a box of basic troops or snapfit dudes and painting them up to learn how to paint, since everyone's sperging out right now. This will actually be a pretty nice time to join once it's officially released and the rules are out. I'd say check if there's
any clubs, Games Workshop Warhammer stores, or any other local game store that stocks 40k and has tables for playing. Watch Warhammer TV's how to paint videos, they're amazing, man.

>>52885676
LRBT were shit at doing anything to tanks and MC's anyway.

>>52885707
If it's not something that can happen reliably then it really doesn't change
>now you can't end up in that shit scenario where 1 players remaining forces can't possivle hurt the others

>>52885619
>Chimera includes an accessory sprue
>model that is almost double the price but doesn't include even 50% more plastic doesn't
You see the problem here, right?

>>52885633
Not technically true. S1/2 can't hurt a riptide at all. Not that you'll face a lot of that, but that's for good reason.

>>52885626
Yep. It's bullshit for the reasons I already listed above. Way more money for a disproportionate amount of model.

>>52885728
Gauss was just there due to the lack of special weapons providing AT, so it doesn't really matter if it goes.

>>52885716
Have you ever stopped and realized how many times you type the word "shill" a day? Really makes you think.

About how retarded you are.

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>>52885395

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>>52885395
I can't decide between Dreadnoughts or Interrogator Chaplain. Just look at this guy, he's ready to torture the crap out of you with his Captain statline, man.

>>52885681
See what local game stores there are and if they are on your college's bus routes or near one. Then find out if they have a warhammer night and go. If you like the people, enter the hobby and have fun, if you don't like them, don't join the group. You can also see if there is a tabletop group at your uni, it might have some people that play 40k

>>52885693
And all they had to do to make that gorgeous model playable was allow more upgrades like a bike or some long range weapon upgrade so he can actually do something in the formations that require him

>>52885642
A bit disappointing how Big G towers of Ghazzy now. Fingers crossed for a wave of new Ork stuff eh?

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>>52885726
>mfw I got two metal ones
Would you join me in the eternal crusade brother?

>>52885611
>live-fag-round-up

Is that from Chechnya?

>>52885735
So instead of actually buffing them you make them worse at things they were already mediocre at. Also they had no issue taking out transports. Also what would be the point of variants like the Punisher if the battlecannon will just autohit swarms anyways and do xd6 wounds? Either there will be no reason to bring one because the other will be objectively better than the other.

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>>52885395
>tfw Plasma Cannons no longer having templates means that it can be snapfired and used in Overwatch
>they're finally viable with DA chapter tactics and stuff boosting our Overwatch as our chapter gimmick alongside our love of plasma
>my plasma cannon devs/tacs/dreads/termis can finally defend themselves
OH YES

PLASMA CANNONS FOR DAYS

>>52885662
the chalice symbol looks lie it'd be really easy to shave/file off.

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>>52885771

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>>52885395
I love Chaos Termies. If there's one thing I dislike about them, it's that there aren't even more cool ways to kit them out.

>>52885734
>>52885759
Thanks guys, I'll check it out. Cheers

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>>52885395
I like big boxy robots

Hell, I'm trying to find excuses to buy another one

>>52885787
Is that confirmed? I play IF and like to sit a plasma cannon devastator squad and a librarian on a haemotrope reactor and cook the entire battlefield.

What is the change?

>>52885764
>tfw own two metal ones
>tfw never ever played BTs
>tfw converted one into a VV Sarge with dual LCs
>tfw the other one has seen no battles in about 12 years

>>52885802
>What is the change?
they are confirmed getting rid of templates. anon assumes this means all weapons will be able to fire overwatch.

>>52885779
They'd still be good at killing heavy infantry compared to a punisher and would have more potential against vehicles than a single str8 ap3 hit.

>>52885809
Even flamers? Sternguard heavy flamers are my go-to unit...

>>52885799
>tfw really like broadsides and want to include one
>but running a stealth based close-range cadre so it would completely clash against fluff

>>52885818
They'll get a random number of hits, like they do when you fire overwatch. They aren't getting rid of the weapons, just the templates.

>>52885798
the games workshop website has a store finder function if you're having trouble finding anything.

it basically just gives you all the stockists of GW stuff in the area tou specify.

>>52885809
Better yet, AA.

>>52885818
Flamers could overwatch already.

>>52885814
Except they're not hitting either of those reliably since it's probably hitting on a 4+ and you'd have better options to do both of those things.

>>52885799
I only own play Orks right now and own a few Space Marine models but I snagged three Broadsides for a decent price despite owning no other Tau stuff right now and no ambition to get any until my painting is done. Railsides are honestly my favorite model in the whole game and I want to run a small group of Tau allies just to have an excuse to use them.

>>52885830
Ah cool. Hopefully they buff heavy bolters, if I could stack my IF army with that I would be a happy camper.

>>52885838
I was referring to the removal of flamer templates. More importantly the ignores cover part of it

>>52885818
I hope you enjoy getting a whopping D3 hits per shot now that templates are gone.

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>>52885828
>>52885843
It's been too long. I'm sick of painting these damn Pathfinders

>>52885860
But anon, that'll be so much more reliable and fast than those fiddly templates!

>>52885849
we've no idea if they're losing ignores cover.

all we knw is that the number of hits is no longer determined by a template.

>>52885860
Wow that's awful, I would use them to plop down in the middle of guard swarms and cook half the squad.

If they are taking out my ability to do that, then they'd better make marines a hell of a lot harder to kill.

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>>52885395
Burninating the countryside.

>>52885841
It always hits if they have at least 6 models, and it's still like a 60% chance even against one model, which is about what scatter gives you, depending on size.

>>52885860
Figured it would be D3 for a small blast and D6 for large, but do we have confirmation or is it just based off of the changes from WHFB to AoS?

>>52885873
Yes, it's SO difficult to hold up a clear piece of plastic and count how many bases it covers.

Why, once I got so many hits I had to count with my toes too! It was pretty tough.

>>52885863
do wish they were a bit less monopose, but the railgun looks so much nicer than the fucking missile arms

>>52885879
we don't know if it'll be only D3, that anon pulled that number out of his ass.
for all we know it could be 2D6 hits

>>52885843
Railsides look good, shame missilesides are the better loadout

>>52885888
>doesn't have Trogdor written on it
Shame

>>52885898
I don't hate the missile arms, but giving them a big missile rig to hold like the railgun would have been nicer, I think.

Anyone know where I can find some super cool ork armies that are kitbashes from defeated tau armies? like kill kans or deathdreds with riptide or battlesuit parts?

>>52885888
Not anymore you aren't.

>>52885890
Where are you even getting a 60% chance to hit one model on a 4+ roll.

>>52885879
>>52885905
Never in a million years will it be 2d6. Maybe d6 if we're lucky, but I'm honestly expecting d3. Muh balance.

>>52885888
Too bad removing templates is going to utterly rape Hellhounds and deprive them of any usefulness whatsoever. 125 points of pointlessness.

>>52885894
we could see something like a new "blast X" type. that does say XD3 hits.

if they're removing templates theres no reason to stick only 2 types lf blast.

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>>52885763

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc-HzewEc3o

>>52885898
Missile fists look stupid
I wonder if they'll buff or rework broadsides

>>52885905
Unless they start giving ICs 10+ wounds rolling 2d6 autohits against one model would be bonkers.

>>52885937
Made a mistake and counted the autohit as equal or less than. Still not awful compared to scatter, which is far from guaranteed.

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>>52885395
that's a smug looking ork for someone with very exposed joints

as for models, i really like the exalted seeker chariot. when it gets the charge it's amazing.

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>>52885922
I have these, I run them as MANz

>>52885982

Orks believe mega armor are super protective, therefore they magically become super protective. His is red so it probably makes him faster too.

>>52885779

> Also what would be the point of variants like the Punisher if the battlecannon will just autohit swarms anyways and do xd6 wounds? Either there will be no reason to bring one because the other will be objectively better than the other.

A) That's already the case- there is no reason to ever take a LRBT instead of a punisher, and even though only the Paskisher variant. Blast weapons that aren't AP2 are universally shit because the scale of the game has outgrown the point where templates are useful.

B) xD6 isn't strictly better nor worse then a non-template firing tank because you still have to aim with regular weapons-they can miss.

>>52885981
But you have to account for the fact that scatter has a chance to scatter into other units too, or that it still manages to clip a larger model despite the scatter.

Making it all or nothing is very much a nerf.

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>>52885787

This implies overwatch will even exist in other, let alone work in the same manner

>>52885939
If that's the case it seems like hoards of small units will be extremely op

Unless they make heavy bolters like, salvo 3/5 s6 ap 5

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>>52886007
No clue why it's upside down

>>52886007
>Dem umies will be expektin' roight-soid up orks!

>>52885642
that is beautiful

>>52885992

GURREN LAGORK! SPING ON!

'OO DA HELL'Z YOO FINK I AM!!!

>>52885939
The most I would expect would be d3 for a hand flamer, d3+1 for a normal flamer, d3+2 for a Heavy flamer, and then 2d3 or a d6 for any of the really big ones like Baleflamers or Flamestorm cannons.

Still won't be quite as good at torching hordes, but it'll also keep them a bit more sane against smaller units.

>>52885809
>>52886018
But that's the whole point of DA chapter tactics other than stubborn. Their decurion even makes them BS4 overwatch.

What would they replace it with if Overwatch was gone?

>>52886006
You also lose the chance of hitting your own dudes, you can't really say it's a nerf until we actually get the stats in front of us. At worst the LRBT will remain as unusable as it is now.

>>52886027
because the jetpacks are on, stupid

>>52886047
No gets hot on plasma?

>>52886047
What did they get before overwatch?

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>>52886038

>>52886047
>But that's the whole point of DA chapter tactics
Who says chapter tactics will even remain as they are?

>>52886049
Hitting your own dudes is pretty much a non-issue if you are positioning correctly. I guess not being able to hit them is a buff in a way but not in any noticeable way.

>>52886072
I mean your opponent can do the same thing so that blasts do basically nothing. The change is pretty neutral on the whole, it' wouldn't break units just on its own, as you can adjust numbers to fit. Heck, give it an accuracy boost when shooting at large targets would solve it pretty easily.

>>52886069

I'm up for getting rid of this chapter tactics bullshit. It's way too convoluted, some chapters get 3-4 different abilities that are too convoluted to be a simple USR.

Just give every chapter a single USR as their tactic, and maybe an HQ that changes their army up, just like in 5E.

>>52886023
Hordes of weak units will already be extremely OP, this is a known fact. In a game where 'everything can hurt everything else' there's no point in building armies around any strategy but throwing as many weak shots at the enemy as possible, because even the wimpiest stuff will still hurt his toughest units.

>>52886039
>3-5 hits
>on a heavy flamer
That's just fucking sad though.

>>52886089
So instead of a fairly simple template and scatter you have every unit with a different special rule or have to constantly count out how many units are in the target unit to see if you get a bonus for firing at them.

Seems like a pretty pointless change.

>>52885860
rip Wyverns, you had it coming.

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>Q: Command points? what can you tell us.
>A: Charges fight first, armies playing to play style. One of the mechanisms is called Command Points which allows you to make the army. You generate command points based on how large the army is. (Reroll dice, interrupt charging going first with a command point, etc. They are super valuable and tactical to use. Once they are gone they are gone. Additional command points will be in the various codexes (see below) Command points will for example, not only define a Space Marine army - but also the FLAVOR of Space Marine Army

So every army has Faith points now and Sisters are confirmed for never ever getting updated?

anyone got any mono-tzeentch lists they're willing to share?

>>52886114
rip burying hordes under the weight of wounds, now you get 4d6 hits instead of 40 wounds.

>>52886131
You'll also have to build exactly how GW tells you in order to get those command points.

>>52885863
>Metallic chassis on tau mechs
My gue'la

>>52886105

You never got more than 5 hits from a flamer template anyways if your opponent was smart enough to keep max coherency.

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>>52886131
I think it could be interesting if they do it right.

>>52886160
Here's hoping with 14 different charts we'll have more variety in building a list. They mentioned a few going up as a teaser later this week.

>>52886131
None of this sounds that interesting really. A single re-roll and an interrupt. Wow. Single use buffs that only require the spending of a point, etc. all sounds boring.

>>52885955
Gotta say, a lot of the aesthetic of AoS armies don't really appeal to me, but Ironjawz are cool.

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>>52885395
Dark Eldar have always been sexy but Scourges just take the cake or me.
I wish there was a way I could run nothing but them.

What is tabletop standard?

>>52886231
standard for... painting? Three color minimum.

>>52886069
GW said Chapter Tactics and Legion Tactics are staying.

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So why does my gf love 'Nids THIS much? How are they cute?

>>52886231
basecoated and painted

>>52886160
I just wanted GW to do something interesting with my Skitarii's Doctrina Imperatives but now it sounds like I'll have to build an army to GW's standard to even get to use them.

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>>52886258
de fuck ?

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>>52886167
Really have to slather the nuln oil on to get the metal as dark and dull as I would like but I still think it's totally worth it. Mixing Leadbelcher with black doesn't really work

I originally painted my Battlesuits with black and a metallic highlight but I like this way better and need to repaint the old ones now.

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>>52886258
resize your images retard

Also I know that isn't your GF, it's just you in panties you twink fuck

>>52886059
I'd be fine with that.

>>52886064
I dunno, I started 7th since my friends were playing it and it looked cool.

>>52886069
They said it on the livestream.

>>52886131
I would be more pleased with the reintroduction of 0-1 on strong/thematically rare units, but they want the kids to be able to use whatever models they think are cool.

There's a reason that MTG decks have a limit of 4 of any one card per deck.

>>52886231
Essentially, it means your models are painted well enough that if somebody was looking at them on the table, from more than a foot away, they'd look fine. They wouldn't be too messy or have any glaring mistakes, and have a clear color scheme without just being a flat spraypaint.

Doesn't require a bunch of minute detail work to get something that looks nice on the board

>>52885529
>That's what people said at the start of 6E and were wrong.
>Were wrong
>Tanks weren't infinitely easier to kill in 6E than in 5E.
Did we even play the same editions?

>>52886192
It's basically a shittier version of Focus from Warmachine.

>>52886318
Isn't that what Open play is for?

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CHOOSE YOUR ALLEGIANCE

SPACE MARINES
IMPERIAL FORCES
CHAOS
XENOS EMPIRES
XENOS HORDES

www.strawpoll.me/12819985/

>/40kg/ are Imperial Fags

>>52886231
Primed, base color + two with a wash of Nuln Oil .

>>52885321

Any 40k vidya that plays like this pic?

>>52886258
Took me a min to figure out what the hell you were talking about

>>52886353
fun. Apoc. beer gamenights.

>>52885341

Yes it does, it comes with the bits for two of the tanks to be assembled as Battle, Vanquishers eradicators or exterminators, and 1 to be assembled as a Demolisher, Punisher or executioner

>>52886354
>/40kg/ are Imperial Fags
Are you surprised? Chaosfags got employed and are rebuilding the setting in their image and it's been enraging /tg/.

>>52886354
>38 votes in however many hours
Nobody wants to vote in your shitty meme poll, faggot.

>>52886361
Apocalypse-style mods for DoW1.

>>52886354
Was these any doubt that this place was mostly imperialfags? I mean I see chaos cancer too but 40kg follows the global trends pretty much

>>52886373
>38 votes in however many hours
after 6 hours

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How quickly will Codex or whoever have Dawn of War 3 on piratebay? Release day?

God damn it gee dubs. Thanks to the 8th shit, idk if I should keep working on my Night Lords or actually work on my wych cult now that the rules are supposedly not going to suck.

>>52886414

They usually have it a few hours before release.

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>>52886100
>>Wanting to ditch all fluffy flavor and go back to gross boring 5e trash with every marine player bringing the same 3-5 named characters

>>52886421
I mean, just paint what you have. That's what I'm doing.

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>>52886305

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Rate my color scheme of my current work.

Still unfinished, but they're going to be my personal chapter of thousand sons, 'Sons of Despair'™.

>>52885992
I don't know you and we may never see each other, but I need to tell you that I love you and your free spirit

Ok, guys, I have an army composition question. I know 8th edition is right around the corner, but I'm asking for games tomorrow and this weekend.

When building my army, if I want to include multiple CADs and Allied Detachments, the BRB says that the Allied Detachment must be from a different Faction than my CAD.

To outline what I want to do, I'm playing in a sort of story campaign. We have to have 3 character HQs. I run vanilla Space Marines, but I'd like to somewhat cherry-pick my detachment special rules.

I want to run my Captain on a Bike and his Biker unit as White Scars. I want to run my Librarian, Tactical Squads, and Devastator Squads as Imperial Fists. And I want to run my Chaplain, a Tactical Squad, and a Death Company squad as Blood Angels.

CAD White Scars for Bikers and Scouts
CAD Imperial Fists Librarian, Tactical, and Devastators
Allied Detachment Blood Angels Assault Marines and Tactical Squad

Is this legal? And if not, is there a legal way to do this?

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cringing at this retard, must be a putrid union blessed by nurgle

>>52886444
Thin and wash. Please for the love of all that is holy under Tzeentch's realm

>>52886442
Nids are still shit

>>52886354
>>/40kg/ are Imperial Fags
they're all guardfags if I remember the last strawpoll correctly

>>52886433

A) I have a lot of both
B) it's a matter of priorities

>>52886442
sharpie in pooper

>>52886444
Did you paint them with a marker? There are gobs of paint on the orange cloth on th guy on the left. Primer on the guy on the right's backpack implies bad weather conditions. so it might be worth stripping them and starting over. Get a wet palette to thin your paints , there are a lot of spots where the paint is too thickly applied. Nice to see a different scheme for an army of your dudes though

>>52886463
Yes.

And, if you wanted, you could use Allied Detachments for all detachments that don't contain your Warlord, so long as they have different Chapter Tactics. Why? And They Shall Know No Rules.

>>52886444
THIN

>>52886466
I try but I do a shitty job of it ._.

>>52886485
I thin that gob is...leftover flash from the sprue? And I primered it in sunny weather, I prolly did a shitty job of it though ._.

>>52886500
YOUR

>>52886493
Oh my gosh, I love that shit.
And They Shall Know no Rules!
That is my favorite now.
Thank you for your help, oh wiseassed-and-learned teacher.

>>52886511
STYLE

>>52886354
Why weren't space Marines rolled along with imperial forces?

>>52886510
Read the instructions on your primer. Mine can't be used in temperatures over 80 F and like 60-70% humidity. Use your hobby knife to remove excess sprue. If you have any vehicles those are probably the best thing to paint first since they are easier. Warhammer TV and painting Buddha are awesome free sources for learning to paint.

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>>52886442
>milk drinker

Say that to my face and see what happens

>>52886431
You'd obviously keep the HQs restricted to their chapter, you howler monkey.

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>>52886444
Dude

>>52885681
gw has a storefinder app on their website, it literally links you local gaming stores

check their facebook pages

find a date to go meet people

????

talk to people in public

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>>52886566

>>52886537
Why weren't non-Space Marine Imperials squatted?

>>52886510
>>52886444
If those are thinned, another problem may just be your color choice. Flat Black is hard to get right, and the shade of green you're using really doesn't seem to be turning out well in some spots.

The guy on the right looks a bit better overall, though that's mainly in the spots where it's just green armor and bronze trim. Hard to mess that up.

I would suggest using some spare flat armor bits and taking some time to practice. Try and get a better feel for how much paint you need on the brush to cover an area. Try to use as little as possible and work your way up.

>>52886550
Hrmm. I'm guessing it might've been the humidity then.

As for thinning, I think I'm putting too much paint into the palette to begin with and then applying a small amount of water to it, thus the inconsistency.

Next time I paint I'm going to put in less paint, and then put in the drop of water to smooth it out?

>>52886444

Be strong, Anonymous.

>>52886595
Because they're awesome :^)

https://youtu.be/jkj8KmxYpkQ

My brain is broken. I remember when this shit was being written so long ago, and now we got this. From cruddy fanfiction to cg video. Maybe I'm an idiot that's unaware of the advances in technology that make this easier, but it's baffling a cruddy fanfic from 4chan has gone this far.

>>52886442
>tits that small

MtF?

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>>52885395

>>52886610
Thin the paint down to the consistency of milk.

>>52886648
damn i love that kit but i don't play orks. i kinda wanna use a few of those guys as heavy weapons platforms for my guardian squads but it'd be a bit much

>>52886610
If you're having trouble with consistency, you may want to move your paint to a drip bottle so you know exactly how much paint you're using each time.

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>>52885395
I also love Greyfax.

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>>52885395
I dont even own one but goddamn are Mauler/Forgefiends cool

>>52885979
having he rules just state it hits 2d6 models easily solves that trouble.

>>52886720
I'm just getting into the game, and I'm honestly considering starting out with a chaos army of a couple of fiends and some DarkMech, just because I fucking love those fiends, and the idea of playing a bunch of rogue AdMech who give fuck all about heretech sounds enjoyable.

>>52885599
filthy dumb ork scum

>>52886683
well flash gits are consistently the mercenary class of orkz

>>52886105
>Hordes of weak units will already be extremely OP, this is a known fact. In a game where 'everything can hurt everything else' there's no point in building armies around any strategy but throwing as many weak shots at the enemy as possible, because even the wimpiest stuff will still hurt his toughest units
yes. just like in 7e where nobody bothers taking plasma or grav guns to kill carnifexs since a lasgun can hurt jt.

>>52886649
Milk. Gotcha. Basically to the point where if I drew a line with a brush, it wouldn't pool up?

>>52886690
Yeah, I'm thinking of looking at the store tomorrow for little plastic drip bottles for both the water and paint

>>52886644
No, it's just that 1d4ddit garbage has started becoming profitable/popular ever since that retarded Emperor's TTS bullshit.

>>52886823
Grav killing vehicles is kind of the same principle though, spam enough things that will wound on a 6 and it'll die eventually. Only real difference is you'd actually get saves and we have no idea what kind of saves vehicles will have.

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>>52886801
i already got picture related, i don't wanna over play the joke... but you know those sneaky orks sneak into all kinds of things

>>52886853
>he actually thinks vehicles will be T3 6+ and not something like T8 W15 2+

>>52886835
Pretty much.

>>52886864
A land raider might be, but I doubt a rhino or a chimera will be. You don't really have to kill every single model, just enough that you can control most of the board.

>>52885599
Sorry - can't hear you over all the whining about the new edition.

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Thinking about getting into the hobby after mostly just playing DoW and reading the books, but I don't want to just create a generic army because I'm a special fucking snowflake. I'm considering doing a Rogue Trader themed army because I like the lore and it let's me be flexible with theming armies together, like a deviant Rogue Trader who uses alien mercenaries or is willing to shelter a renegade SM chapter for services rendered.

I'm starting off with IG because IG are awesome and it let's me make a Company Commander into a Rogue Trader, but my question is, how do I make a model that looks like a Rogue Trader? Any suggestions?

>>52886864
wait, if vehicles are t8 then what happens to the wraithlord? being t8 is it's own claim to fame

>>52886888
The absolute lowest I would expect for a vehicle would be Dark Eldar boats being toughness 5/6 and having a 5+. Ork Trukks are going to be at least a 6 and a 4+. And even those flimsier vehicles are probably going to end up with 6 or more hullpoints now to offset heavy weapons dealing multiple points of damage

>>52885341
No they don't. The accessory sprue (that they sell separately nowadays) only comes in the Basilisk kit by default anymore.

>>52886901
Hey m8 everyone's sperging out right now.

I dunno how to help you with that, but it sounds like a cool thing bruh.

>>52886131
>Command points will for example, not only define a Space Marine army
So I'm reading that as only Space Marines will get Command Points.

>>52885779
>>52885787
>>52885809
>>52885841
>>52885860
>>52885937
>>52885939
Man, all these people and even more already got their advance copies of the 8th Edition rules? Scans when?

>>52886946
>So I'm reading that as only Space Marines will get Command Points.

So I'm reading that as someone not knowing what 'For Example' means

>>52886444
The Flesh Change wasnt the worst thing to befall the Thousand Sons

>>52886354
>rolling Orks and Nids into the same group.

Fuck off and fuck you.

>codexes are still a thing so codex creep and certain armies being favoured with much more attention while others languish for a decade are still going to happen
>still going to be shitloads of rerolling
>formations are still around
>still focused on bigger and bigger games and bigger and bigger models that do not fit 28mm scale at all

Is there anything to actually be excited about? All the problems are still there as far as I can see.

>>52886901
you might wanna look at the heralds of ruin kill team stuff, they've got rules for Rogue Trader kill teams, and it might help you get more of an idea of what you want for your dudes

>>52886946
pretty sure they mean there are faction and subfaction specifc abilities to spend command points on. So an ultramarine army has different options that lend themselves to a different playstyle compared to say white scars.

>>52886192
Tell that to fate weaver

>>52886976
formations are actually confirmed gone

Also how is rerolling a problem?

>>52886976
>updated annually
>nothing about formations was actually mentioned
>game has been intended to be balanced and has had the most playtesting done to it compared to any other edition
>RIPTIDES NERFED NIGGA

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ofug

Until I see enough of the new rules to be sure about stuff, all this speculation seems pointless

>>52886901
You're in the anything and everything market along with the Inquisition people.

IF you don't already have a look in mind, grab some good looking kits and greenstuff and start mixing/matching.

Troops
Skitarii Rangers/Vanguard
Genestealer Acolytes
Cadian infantry
Empire/Free People Greatswords

For Characters/extra $ troops
Empire/Free People General
Cadian command squad.
Magos dominus
Tempestus Scions

Grab third party stuff as inspiration strikes

>>52885426
until it's revealed that tanks have like 15 wounds in the new edition.

>>52886901
Imperial Agents.

>>52887027
There's going to be a bunch of army specific FoCs and knowing GW they'll probably end up accomplishing the same stupid shit as formations did. This is the same studio that came up with the fucking Ynnari after all.

As for the rerolling, wasn't the point to reduce the number of rolls to make the game faster?

>tfw painting my sisters of battle
>with 15 models out of 40 painted it's closest to a fully painted army I've had in a long time
>tfw should buy at least 25 more for 1,500 points
fug

>>52887031
>game has been intended to be balanced and has had the most playtesting done to it compared to any other edition

Until it's in the hands of the public and the hordes of WAAC neckbeards are trying to break it any claims of balance are bullshit.

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>>52885321
Sup dudes, tried my hand at converting for the first time. Inquisitorial Crusader built off the body of a Lord Commissar. Thoughts?

>>52887113

What are you running that you have that many models? I'm running 26 infantry and 5 tanks at 1000, and 43/7 at 1500pts for my Sisters.

>>52886969
>unreasonable smelly xenos shouldn't be paired together

>>52886944
Thanks bro.
>>52887004
Oh, wow, just looked it up and it's really cool. Keeping it down to a kill team would also let me keep costs down while I learn the basics.
>>52887079
Now this will really help.
>>52887093
I guess I overlooked Imperial Agents, that's actually perfect for a RT themed army.

>>52887109
No, there's 14 FOCs available to all armies. And they've specifically intended for a major rebalance and even noted that things like the Riptide were too strong.

>>52887127
Pretty good if that's your first conversion ever. I like it.

>>52887027
The questions specifically mention formations and rerolls are time wasting bloat resulting from lazy/poorly thought out rules.

>>52887188
Thanks!

>order chaos vehicle upgrade sprue from ebay
>arrives in mail
>get stabbed through bubble Mailer

Fucking hell

>>52887162
2 squads of 10 sisters, 10 seraphim, 5 dominions, 5 command squad, 2 immolators, 1 exorcist, Canoness and Ministorum priest.
I want to expand the Sisters Squads to 20 members each and add some penitent engines because I hate suicide squads and love walkers even though they're probably shit. If I was reasonable I would buy another Exorcist but I fucking hated building the model when I got one and I don't want to experience it again.

>>52887185
I'm pretty sure those 14 FoCs are just the core available to everyone and more will be added as GW releases more books.

They can say they've rebalanced shit all they want but until people are actually playing with them beyond a small sample of testers their claims mean nothing.

>>52887207
>rerolls are time wasting bloat resulting from lazy/poorly thought out rules
elaborate

>>52886907
T8 is roughly equivalent to av12. Consider that when guessing what AVs the various tanks will have

>>52887176
Tyranids shouldn't be paired with anyone.

They don't even play nice with Genestealer cults.

>>52887127
From a technical standpoint, there's a mold line on the Scion chainsword arm, clean up any we can't see in the pic too.

From an aesthetic one, I like where you're going, my only complaint is the commissar body seems a bit... light compared to the rest of the gear. Paint could shift this though.

>>52887222
>penitent engines
Better get some vehicles instead.

>>52887249
but those are 7e alliance rules, anon :^)

Say goodbye to Oldnids and embrace the Newnids.

>>52887256
Any idea what to do with the body?

>>52887222
>squads of 10 sisters

That is not only points inefficient, but more money inefficient as well. There is never a need to go above 5 sisters of battle, especially when the squad inside costs more money than an immolator. Take it from a 10 year SoB vet. Also, Exorcists are overrated, and yes the model is a nightmare. We use them because we have no choice.

>hate suicide squads
>wants penitent engines
I hope you realize that PEs are more fragile than 5 girls on foot, right?

>>52887249
Don't the Genesealer cults literally flee planets en mass when the nids actually start approaching?

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>>52885572
>Pretty sure that's gonna end up making it easier, yeah. Last I checked lasguns couldn't poke a Russ to death in the current rules.

The To Wound table is going to look like pic related. Plus, Vehicles getting a Toughness stat means they also get an Armour Save. A Leman Russ with T9 (likely under the current system for AV14) would probably have at least a 3+ save as well. Under the To-Wound table I posted, you would need to hit the thing 106 times before you statistically caused a single unsaved wound. "Able to wound" is extremely different to "This is a viable tactic".

That's being balanced again Tanks no longer being able to be one-shot by every AP2 and AP1 weapon in the game.

>>52887292
No, they help destroy the locals, then they let the nids eat them/they jump into the digestion pools

>>52887249
Fluff-wise you are correct. Although I just lost to Genestealer cult + nid mini-flying circus. In retrospect, half of my lose can be attributed to not having played my CSM in about a year and being fuzzy on some rules and powers.

>>52887272
Well maybe bulk it out with something like slapping a shield over of the front, or a more cabling from the back.

https://megabitzshop.com/Warhammer-40k-Bitz-Grey-Knights-Grey-Knight-Terminators-Shoulder-Shield-F

http://www.dragonforge.com/for%20sale%20images/dforge%20items%20for%20sale/supplies/power%20cables/power%20cables%20sample%20set%201%201.jpg

Something to add some weight to it.

Alternatively try a different body you have handy, see if the ratio seems better

>>52887305
I could have sworn some of them flee and continue to spread the infection.

>>52887265
Yeah but the choices for Sisters of Battle are Rhino, Immolator, Exorcist and Penitent Engine when it comes to vehicles, so that's either transports with nothing inside them, something I don't want to build or PE.
Or taking 4 squads of 5 sisters of battle in immolators and then someone would REEEE at me for not using more dominion squads.
>>52887291
For Penitent Engines it makes sense, they're looking for penance. For Sisters squads it doesn't, you can't fight for the Emperor if you're dead.
Plus how many Marines is a 5-sister squad going to kill before going down? 1?

>>52887292
no they fight with their arriving gods and saviors. at least that was according to the 2e and 7e cult codex.

later once the invasion is won and it becomes cleae they'll be eaten as well they sometimes fight back. Though the nid codex has a story of a feral world whose whole population was taken over by a cult and when the fleet arrived they voluntarily walked themselves into the digestion pools.

>>52886901
http://www.kabuki-studio.com/stand-alone/40-napoleon-x.html

This could be a good model for a rogue trader commander.

>>52887323
You could also get a Repressor, an Imperial Knight, or something else from forgeworld

>>52887302
where'd that pic come from?

though that does seem a reasonable system.

>>52887302
>Vehicles getting a Toughness
[citation needed], theyre getting wounds

>>52885734
Probably the best post here.

>>52887323
I guess I should add I only started running two squads of 10 sisters because GW was out of stock of Immolators when I moved up to 1,000 points.
>>52887337
Unfortunately the Avenger is the only thing Forgeworld makes for them anymore and even then it's hugely expensive for like 120 points.

>>52887323
>Penitent Engine
>vehicle
It's a walker

>>52887345
Considering GW said "anything can wound anything" I highly doubt av will still be a thing. It would be pretty pointless.

>>52887320
The genestealers do, because they know what's coming.

The cultists get blindsided completely

PLASTIC SISTERS WHEN?

>>52887358
>It's a walker
which is a subtype of vehicle.

>>52887363
prob a couple month

>>52887366
>which is a subtype of vehicle.
It's not.

>>52887366
It's an old shitpost meme, ignore him.

>>52887359
I hate to break it to you, anon, but we're probably not getting T or AV for vehicles, just flat to-wound rolls for all weapons ala AoS.

Im sad they havent given a release date for 8th.

>>52887344
>where'd that pic come from?

I did it up in Paint. It's extrapolated from them saying in the Livestream that everything can hurt everything, but it might be difficult to do it, and the way it works in Shadow Wars shooting, which is exactly like that.

>>52887345

>Vehicles don't have armour values anymore, in fact every model uses the same statline

Direct quote from the Livestream. Tanks have a Toughness value.

>>52887395
Except Strength and Toughness were confirmed to still be a thing, so no, the meme doesn't become true no matter how many times you say it.

>>52887395
They explicitly said at the end of the q&a stream str and toughness were still a thing. I don't see why vehicles would be an arbitrary exception.

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>>52885395
Best model in the tau range imo

>>52885992
> barrels, drill them
> paints, thin them
> washes, use them

overall, I Like the idea

>>52887395
>just flat to-wound rolls for all weapons ala AoS.

Strength is still in, as is Toughness. We're not getting fixed To Wound rolls. Stop this nonsense.

>>52887363
>no new stuff released before new edition
>after new edition launch death guard get released and numarines get released

12+months MINIMUM if ever.

>>52887184
>>52887272
Still pondering general conversion advice, if you haven't already check out the Inquisitor 28mm boards on the Ammo Bunker:

http://s3.zetaboards.com/The_Ammobunker/forum/3012278/

They're an exceptional source of kitbash inspo, especially check out Jeff Vadar's Stuff:

http://s3.zetaboards.com/The_Ammobunker/topic/7623097/1/

>>52887409
>>52887413
>keeping S and T
oh, thank God. I had been so worried.

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>>52885395
Trukks, such a great kit.

>>52887436
unfortunately even with "everything wounds on at least a 6" some people will still complain that figuring out what to roll to wound is too complicated.

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>>52887437

The Trukk kit is an absolute marvel. A better source of bitz I am yet to find.

>>52887335
That's good, that's really good.
>>52887434
This is exactly what I was looking for. I'm already thinking of some really cool things I can do. Thanks.

>>52887460

THE MOLD LINES.

THE MOOOOLLLLDDDD LINNNNEEESSSSS

>>52887493

Eh, I made them like, 7 years ago, before I even knew what mold lines were. Some day I'll strip them and fix them up.

>interested in playing sisters after getting the new Celestine
>Can live with metal minis
>Check prices

Hnnnnnnnng.

>>52887323
>Or taking 4 squads of 5 sisters of battle in immolators and then someone would REEEE at me for not using more dominion squads.
It's almost never better to take BS squads when you have other slots available. For example, 5 plain Retributers in a rhino are better than a BSS squad. If you're looking at Castellans, don't. CAD is better for Sisters.

>>>52887291 (You)
>For Penitent Engines it makes sense, they're looking for penance. For Sisters squads it doesn't, you can't fight for the Emperor if you're dead.
You don't get the whole Sisters deal, do you. They would gladly die in service of the emperor. The army used to get bonus faith points when units die. Hell, we have a tactical objective that gives us VP when our shit dies. We're literally an army of martyrs.

>Plus how many Marines is a 5-sister squad going to kill before going down? 1?
Heavy flamer, flamer, and 6 bolter shots will do about 2 wounds on average. Here's the kicker: a 10 girl squad with HF/F only does 3 wounds. Not worth the points when you could just buy another squad.

>>52887418
i mean they aren't finished by any means, but thanks

Why are all the casul scrubs crying about Lasguns being able to damage a Landraider (marginally, I believe)?

Must be the good old, idiotic, "realism" thought process. You know, the one that is useless in a tabletop scifi game and needs to be shoved up your ass for being so dumb.

Gamewise, it's a big improvement.

Do you think I'll actually be able to make a half decent list using my rubrics once 8th hits, and maybe have some reason to get more?
I don't want to have it 100% necessary to run all these Tzaangors to make up for the small body count, and be able to actually run a more rubric centric army one of these days.

>>52887570
I only ever use CADs in my armies.
What I was trying to say was, a victory after which you live is a more glorious victory than a victory gained by dying, even for an army of martyrs, because that means you get to kill more heretics and xenos in the name of the Emperor.
I'll probably mobilize my army further, but I'm dead set on buying some Penitent Engines on my 1,500 point list. Maybe they'll be better in 8th edition, who knows? All I know is my local meta usually lets my IG Sentinels just roam about in peace most of the time so I figure they might let PEs get close too.

>>52887607
Most of them have never actually used a blob of conscripts to try and shoot at anything. Protip, it doesn't do shit unless you buff it the fuck out.

>>52887617
Lol no one with a brain would let a penitent engine get close.

>think about playing 40k
>oh fuck I gotta paint and assemble all these miniatures...
>and then what if I never find anyone to play with? I'll just have wasted hundreds of dollars
>okay I won't play
>rinse and repeat

being indecisive is truly suffering

>>52887625
Well then they'll be a really expensive distraction carnifex.

Cant fucking wait for my nobz in a naut to actually be usable

>>52887639
Sisters already have Celestine, the best distraction carnifex in the game though.

something i hope they take from age of sigmar is declaring where your shots are being alocated to, per shot, before rolling to hit and stuff. sp that instead of the entire unit being forced to shoot at one unit, you can have a mix of special/heavy weapons that can fire at their own target and contribute to things they're good at. instead of the only take a single special type in a unit thing we have now.

>>52887674
Special Characters don't count.

I'm drunk someone help me come up with some meme color schemes for imperium units. I'm working on vaporwave skitarii atm.

>>52887418
What do you use to drill barrels?

>>52885646
What.

>>52887680
I'm a guard player, if that happens I will fucking cream my pants.

>Hiding 5 Lascannons that can fire separately in a blob of 50 bodies that can fire at other shit

Please God yes.

>>52887687
Pink and black

>>52887697
A... Drill?...

>>52887703
I mean, more memes to make into armies, the skitarii already have a pallet

>>52887680
Because dedicating units to specific tasks is hard.

>>52887697
1mm bit. #60 size works good.

>>52887607
>fantasy worlds don't have to be based on some form of internal consistency.

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Fucking choose.

>>52887732
i'm sorry that i want my unit to look cool and varied and still be useful

>>52887345
Vehicles & Armor Values?
No more Armor Value for Vehicles. All models will basically have the same stat line. That means Vehicles will have a Damage Table tailored to each vehicle. As the vehicles take damage they loose effectiveness – possibly lower BS, attacks, etc.

>>52887773
Where'd you get that?

>>52887771
>implying throwing a bunch of random weapons together makes it look cool.

>>52887780
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2017/04/40k-live-faq-round-up.html

>>52887759
Tanks don't have viewports, vulnerable optics, fragile mechanisms, fuel tanks, or any vulnerable spots from earlier hits/battles.

Tanks are, in fact, solid cubes of metal that must be destroyed completely, otherwise they will reform at the end of turn.

>>52887507
I know that feeling. I have an entire Black Legion army that I just spray primed black and did the trim with un-thinned metallics back when I was in high school a decade ago. Some day I'll repaint them

>>52887789
Kek you pretty much described a monolith.

>>52887789
Most 40k vehicles don't, most of those things wouldn't destroy a vehicle and they're so unlikely they may as well not exist.

>>52887797
Which is probably gonna have a self-healing rule, if we're being honest.

>>52887769
are grey knights not space marines?

>>52887810
So 40k vehicles have neither viewports nor optics, huh? Someone had better tell GW that their models are breaking canon.

>>52887632
You poor thing, here have my sympathy
it's a fucking game not a rite of passage

>>52887820
Grey Knights and Deathwatch such Inquisition cock

>>52887785
>Templates are going away
What kind of a fucking monkey do they have in charge there
>Everything can hurt everything
WOO HOO THESE GROTS JUST FUCKING KILLED MY IMPERIAL KNIGHT

>>52887834
suck*

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>>52886105
>weapon no longer confined to physical constraint
>now free the alter hit levels at an individual level instead of stupidly continuing to constricting all template weapons to global values
Wow how bout dat shit

>>52887822
>viewports
Usually only the driver
>optics
most don't

There's a reason that specialised equipment was developed to deal with tanks, actually the entire reason the tank was developed was to counter small arms.

>>52887840
Templates going away means that different AoE weapons can finally have different capabilities.

Hand flamer, 6" 1d3 hits
Flamer, 8" 1d3+1 hits
Heavy flamer, 10" 1d3+2 hits

instead of every single cone shaped weapon, from a spray of acid to the fabric of the universe being torn asunder, hitting exactly the same, the can instead fill roles more easily.

Also, if we're getting T10+, it's likely that there will be multi-tiered wounding. Like how when you need a 7+ to hit in Shadow War, but for wounds instead of hits.

>>52887859
>alter hit levels at an individual level
Yes, how wonderful that every template weapon will have a completely random number of hits even among the most densely packed units.

People bitch and moan about random charge distances and yet it's apparently fine making a unit with a flamer randomly useful.

>>52887892
>1d3 hits for a flamer/heavy flamer
>not at least 1d6 or even 2d6
Just fucking remove the whole class of weapons if you're gonna make them useless.

>>52887892
>"ok, lets roast this densely packed unit of boyz"
>"oh, it can't hit more than 4 of them"

>>52887860
Damn, I guess all those holes on Leman Russes and Land Raiders are just decoys, huh? And those little lense things on the land raider sponsons? Leftover christmas decorations, clearly.