Age Of Sigmar General /aosg/

First for aelves wheeeeennnn???

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FPBP ?

>>52867592
AelvesCancer players in a nutshell.
And he isnt half as autistic as most Aelves....

>>52867582
After death. So never.

>>52867582
Why do you need new aelves if current Aelves are top tier ?
Literraly every Aelves fag is on a 100% winstreak

Since aelves are the winners choice I'll be joining the fun. Is this list decent enough? It's mostly made from my old whfb models

Allegiance: Order

Leaders
Cauldron Of Blood(220)
Tenebrael Shard(120)
Tenebrael Shard(120)
Tenebrael Shard(120)

Battleline
20 x Witch Aelves(280)
-Daughters of Khaine Battleline
10 x Witch Aelves(140)
-Daughters of Khaine Battleline

Total:1000/2000

>>52867650
For the same reason that Geedubbs just released new dwarves. To have new shit to fuck around with.

>>52867705
Dwarves were in terrible state tho, as GW stated in their second AoS livestream ever on twitch.
Aelves being good mean they BTFO at the back of the queue, and waot for my Skellingtons

>>52867727
By that logic, why release new minis at all? Especially with the way AoS works it'd be trivial to just make balance adjustments to the existing shit. There's more to this hobby than just wargaming; there's also collecting, modelling and painting. That's what people want new releases for and GW does it because it's a great way to sell lots of minis.

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Can't wait to field this desu
>Leader
Arkhan The Black - 340
Necromancer - 120

>Battleline
10x Zombies - 60
10x Zombies - 60
10x Zombies - 60

>Behemoth
Mourngul - 400

>Other
2x Morghast Archai - 240
10x Hexwraiths - 320
Summoning Points - 400
--2000 points

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Better late than never. Posting Khar Overlords art.

>>52867592
Is that the same guy who argues about the KO colours?

>>52867684
Anything with shooting and/or 4+ armour will murder you. Witch Aelves have cool models but are really shafted by GWs retarded descission to give them a - armour save. No amount of Mystic Shield or cover will make those ladies more survivable and the 6+ they get from the calduron is really nothing to rely on.

where can i find SCGT results and lists?

>>52867969
will be posted soonTM on warhammer community by GW themselves

So, I am thinking about puying a plageclaw for my Beastmen, using Ungors as crew and getting rid of all the cables and most of the metal. I know Beastmen are supposed to not build shit, but the plageclaw model fits really well with the charriot and I kinda can imagine ungors gleefully using crude machines to sling shit at their opponents.

Cool or no?

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>>52867899
>Arkhan ina list with more than 0 summoning points

it's happening. People have brains

>>52867954
Back to the workbench then. Thanks for the help!

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>>52867505
>LIVE THE GOOD LIFE IN THE OFF WORLD COLONIES.

>At least GW supply the material you need to fix their shit
Hopefully get him painted completely tonight anons

>>52867888
good thing Aleves got a nearly full DE sculpt and WE sculpt update before the end times then

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>>52868046
Just too hasty

>>52867999
As a fellow beastmen play I would say go for it. And maybe convert them into pestigors or something, in order to make them fit in with the rest of the warmachine

>>52867592

Same guy used to shitpost /awg/, I can tell because it's the exact same excuse and posting style.

>>52867938
yes.

>>52868061
/awg/ ?

>>52868039
and here's the potential units that could be summoned once they're built
10x Great Weapon GG
40x Zombies
2x Banshees
2x Harbingers
6x Hosts
1x Mourngul

Does anyone know what the seraphon list was that took 4th place at the south cost grand tournament? It seemed to be lard kroak on a vortex with a bunch of ripperdactyls.

I don't know if there was a astrolith bearer but would you double the range of Kroaks spells and then add 8" or would you add 8" and then double the spell range? If the latter, celestial deliverance would have an average range of 38" aoe which is just about the whole board.

>>52867969
I can tell you right now:
No death, first two places are Tzeentch lists and the third is BR.

>>52868059
>fellow beastmen
Keep the good fight up, goat-bro. And I'll look into the conversion. Maybe post some pictures once I am done! Between the Plague Claw, my Cygorsm Centrigors and Raider I could tailor a surprisingly shooty list. Might be fun to take some people off guard with it.

Post fun shit that has happens in your games, here's a fun thing I did:

>Play an open play game with a friend
>He played Beastclaw
>I played chaos
>He showed me what he was pannning to bring
>I brought 1 single Bray shaman and 8 chaos familiars in 8, 1 model groups
>My turn 1
>I summon Archaeon due to him having the CHAOS and MONSTER Keyword
>I keep drowning my friends units in giants, cygors, Ghorgons, etc

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Is it me or do the Gargrants in AoS look fitter than the giants of WHFB?

>>52868126
Don't know if true, but amusing anyway.

>>52868126
>playing with my boyfriend
>game goes back and forth until my lizards beat his rats
>He claims he needs to scurry back to his cave to breed a new army
>I tell him I can out spawn anything he can breed
>we go home and fuck.

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>>52868170

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This picture shows the level of profit the K-Lords get from the realms.

For some reason profit in the Realm of Shadow is the lowest. We must fix that. Lets send a diplomatic envoy there to open up more trade. Any volunteers?

>>52868187
And what came out? Lizard or rat?

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>>52868187
>Greasy, disgusting nerds bragging about their sex-life on the internet.

>>52867505
>>52867911
>>52867996
>>52868027
>>52868129
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>>52868317
this is the gayest thing since dark eldar and I will never stop hating GW for turning WHB into that

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>>52868126
>Playing with this Ogre player
>Ask me what my unit do
>Explain how fast my Seekers of Slaanesh are
>He smartly put a single line of little guys (Gnoblars? I'm not familiar with the army) stretching across all the field, protecting his main army
>IAmFucked.jpg
>Give him first turn, but he barely move. His plan is to absorb my first charge
>It's actually a very good plan, except...
>Buff my Seekers to the stratosphere, as always
>I roll to run. 11"
>Start moving on the side
>Charge 10"
>mfw between battalion, locus and plain luck I made a 38" charge
>Manage to go all around the line of little guys and manage to slay his elites and wreck havoc in the middle of his army

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>>52868339
The day barely started, but your impotent rage already made it.

>>52868317
>Orange: Ghur
>Yellow: Chamon
>Red: Aqshy
>Blue: Azyr
>Purple: Shyish
>Grey: Ulgu
>White: Hysh
>Green: Ghyran

Correct?

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>>52867727
Well the Freeguild needs an update.

All their old stuff still has Karl Franz name on it.

>>52868372
>All

So far the only one I can find is the Griffon option that used to be Karl Franz.

>>52868067

Alternative wargames general

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Choose your weapons.

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Armor up and getting ready for high adventure!

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>>52868481
Would you live in one of their cities?

>>52868339
>hating on 40k's prettiest army
wew, we got a real subhuman here

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>>52868483

>>52868483
Looks like flying Beijing: dirty, shitty and polluted as fuck. No thank you.

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So I felt like digging up my old Empire stuff, only to discover my paint job was so thick, it looks like I painted my models with white-out. What's the best way to strip paint off plastic models?

>>52868398
The Freeguild General has in written on his shield and his horse, the Demi Griffin knights have it on their armour, Luminark of Hysh has in on the side of the cart, the state troopers have KF on their shields.

I guess Karl Franz liked to remind his troopers who paid their wages.

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>>52868492
But the sights are breathtaking though.

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>Dwarf death star

Now I have seen everything.

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>>52868503
That applies to literally every AoS city.

>>52868497
Dettol or simple greens works well, it also causes them to fall apart even if you used plastic cement.

As far as i can tell the only one that has it molded on is the general on horse (which I forgot about)

The ones on the luminark are quite easy to file off.

>>52868483
Maybe if I wasn't afraid of heights. And steam

>>52868497
Alcohol.

So how are the new sky dwarves? I thumbed through the battletomb but I was pretty unimpressed.

>>52868511
The Death Egg looking good there

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>>52868503
I like the female dwarf statue. I was toying with the idea of making a female Overlord Admiral using a Reaper Dwarf model.

>>52868525
Meanwhile a group of Skaven are plotting a way to locate the DwarfStar's thermal exhaust port and pour light beer down it.

>>52868547
Decent at best I think, there's a few good combos here but lack of mortal wound protection and low saves on the ships help nerf them a bit

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>>52868571
On the same line of thought, why hasn't anyone made female Fyreslayers yet?

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>>52868483
>Cyberpunk Dwarfs

Pretty wiz.

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A bloodthirster blocks your airway

Wat do?

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>>52868644

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I'd like to see the face of the huge faggot who was claiming that the updated points for the TK from GHB 2 are perfectly fine and balanced.

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And that's all the art. So what do you guys think?

>>52868644
Throw a Mourngul at it

>>52868763
now do a black-white filter on all of them and then groggies will eat it up

>>52868741
Are there any lists posted?

>>52868800
>groggies

The cringe is real

>>52868741
why only link the first 20 ? theres no death player before the 49th

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Southcoast GT 2017 Winning list

>>52868803
on war of sigmar yes

>>52868830
Will continue to power game like a giant faggot with my dispossessed army because this setting is shit and fuck steampunk autist.

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>>52868741
I don't remember them addressing Beastclaw Raiders and Skaven yet, did they?

>>52867684
>3 shards

Not you again

Fuck off

>>52867727
>Dwarves were in terrible state tho
u wot
Dispossessed are doing great

Fyreslayers should be much better after their point drop

>>52868837
>power game
>with my dispossessed army
Might as well go hunting bears with a naked ass

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>>52868741
Love being a death player lol

>>52868882
>He does not know about the Dawi deathstar or runelord spam

>t. newfag

I honestly don't understand why more Stormcast players don't use Skyborne Slayers. Imo it's by and far the best Battalion for SCE, mix of all units, easiest charge after Deep Strike, most control over timing and positioning. The only "downside" is that you have to take Decimators and a foot Lord-Celestant, which aren't even bad.

Everyone is trying to make shooting or Stardrake lists work and here I am just dropping 10 Protectors up Tzeentch's ass and wiping out whole units of Skyfires.

>>52868881
said by GW themselves.
I dont care what you think.
Loook at the second aos live available on twitch.

>>52868096
You control both effects so you can apply them in whatever order you want. So you can add 8" first then double it with the vortex.

I've been saying Kroak + Vortex is top tier for a very long time, glad to see somebody brought it to a proper tournament.

Its worth noting that SCGT has some custom rules that slightly warp the metagame. You can't stack any buff with the same name.

It's weird that they allowed the Vortex, since most tournaments outright ban it.

>>52868129
Seid ihr das Essen? Nein, wir sind der Jäger!

>>52868810
>groggy gets triggered
cringe

>>52869006
>Attack on Garant

>>52869006
>referencing a shit tier anime
fuck off

>>52868351
I love doing this shit

I always tell people "Slaneesh is fast" and nobody believes me until they see it first hand

Same thing with Tomb Kings - nobody expects me to fly 28" across the board on the first turn

>>52868949
>just dropping 10 Protectors up Tzeentch's ass and wiping out whole units of Skyfires

If you can cath skyfire With protectors, tzeentch player was terrible anyway

>>52868763
>>52868757
I'm not gonna pretend some of this isn't really off-putting and unrecognizable even from other AoS artwork, plus i just think steampunk dwarves look shit in general i'll certainly never play KO

One thing i will compliment GW on is the design choices for the army composition, Skyports, footnotes, codes, etc and how even though these sub-factions are all very new they almost feel like they could have existed in the lore forever, it's kind of like Space marine chapter tactics

As a Skaven play i am jelly as fuck, why couldn't the clans have been organized in such a way?

Imagine if you had rules for the 3 major Pestilens churches, clan Morrs, clan Skurvy, etc.

>>52868822
Can you imagine being so unskilled at this game that you lose to this list? LOL

>>52869086
Stfu, Sky skaven are on the way

>>52869100
So.. what did you get disqualified again ?

>>52869100
>gather 100 countries
>all loose to this
>They are noobs lol

>>52868949
Skyborne Slayers isnt even in the top 5 for Stormcast battalions

>Everyone is trying to make shooting or Stardrake lists
They aren't "trying". Aetherstrike is the best list in the game.

>>52869086
>steampunk
Its not steampunk, its aetherpunk.

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>>52869101
Need-require source otherwise much-much bullshit

>>52869110
Its the LVO all over again

>that tomb king list with 0 necropolis knights took 4th place

Cant stop laughing at how bad people are at this game

>>52869148
Again, why did you get disqualified from LVO and SCGT 2?

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>>52869011
>shitposting about 'le groggy boogeyman' using buzzwords

>>52869174
Some people work and don't have the luxury of flying to another country for a weekend to play plastic miniature games

>>52869131
Kharadrons overlord book state rhey are the nemesis of a couple skyports.
also the recent rat tails from the weekly spoil image

So all the top 20 armies used Grand Alliance traits and artifacts.

Might this finally prove that you don't need a dedicated battletome to be successful?

>>52869186
So does that make you too cool for school or too poor ? How can romanians go there and you cant ?

>>52869186
must be cool to be you.
Knowing you could win the best tournaments just sitting in your basement

>>52869202
Specifically sky based Skaven? not sky-goblins like everyone was memeing? or is it both? If so, then i am pleased.

>>52869209
No ones saying you need them to be good, it does help mind

But they add much needed flavour fluff and fun to armies, which is more important than game power for drawing people in and keeping older players interested. powergaming WAAC shit is temporary and there will always be something better next week.

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>>52869248
Both it seems.

>>52869076
If his Skyfires are in a corner bubblewrapped the whole early game, I get free reign of the board with my non-Skyborne units. Win win.

>>52869113
Aetherstrike is cool and all but instantly loses to Skyfires, Kurnoth Hunters, artillery, or anything else that outranges it so it can't get mass shooting. Which is a lot of meta lists.

Okay, why did no one tell me how amazing Eternal Guard is? Finally got my 30 elf block done and filded them this weekend. Holy shit they will not budge at all, they are a retardedly good anvil.

And the best: only 240 points for 30. I am honestly surprised so few people actually field them.

>>52869248
Well there were plenty of people who said that all 'legacy armies' aren't viable or some shit like that.

it's fine that you need company validation and attention to feel good about your army. But it would be nice if people could just admit they like 'the shiny things' instead of acting like its important for the game's balance or something like that.

>>52869278
For some reason, like Ur-Gold, the Skaven like to eat and snort Aether-Gold.

>>52869286
>Aetherstrike is cool and all but instantly loses to Skyfires, Kurnoth Hunters
Not if you do it right.

Bring Protectors to screen your raptors and a lord castellant with Lantern of the Tempest artifact. With Staunch Defender and the lantern buff you're looking at:

>all enemies have -1 shooting (-2 if you bring 2 squads of Protectors)
>reroll shooting hit6 (even destiny dice get rerolled, no guaranteed mortal wounds)
>raptors have 2+ save

Skyfires do almost nothing to a good aetherstrike list.

What effect would Warpstone have on ogors? Because I want my tyrant to be swinging a hammer made of warpstone that he beat up some Skaven for.

>>52869287
Theyre good at standing still, but enemies can force you to move. Objectives in matched play don't allow you to just stay put.

>>52869301
>all 'legacy armies' aren't viable or some shit like that.

Obviously they mean All except TK's and Brets. with maybe the odd except like Slaanesh maybe Gutbuster

Try fighting Stormcast or Tzeentch as Beastmen or Clan Moulder, there are undeniable problems with certain legacy forces, and i just want everyone to be a closer playing field personally, i don't care what book is new or shiny

>>52869245
If these SCGT lists are any indication then my local scene is way more competitive than this event

>losing to sayl + bloodletters
Is it 2016 again?

>>52869341
But why would you run a Clan Moulder list? When you can run a mixed chaos lists? That's my point. People trying to force poor monofaction lists when there's like zero reason for that.

>>52869336
That is why I am thinking about the second unit. The first one can stay put on my "home" objective while the other one moves up. 240 is really low and since the support pieces they need are in my army anyways (sisters, waywatcher general, spellweaver) they should be able to stand one or two turns of not getting their standing still bonus when moving up. With a Shadowdancer they shouldn't need more than one turn of movement to get anywhere anyways.

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>>52869333
Only Skaven can be exposed to Warpstone and survive or even use it to heal their wounds or augment magic in small doses. All other mortal creatures will begin to wither and sicken, eventually they will mutate.

An Ogre would be tough enough to resist it even Chaos ogres only show minor mutations like horns or small spikes. you should consider painting the skin on his knuckles and arm pale as it is slowly killing him, but warpstone is very hard and makes for a good blunt weapon, and will attract more Skaven to come and fight him for it

Basically you get cancer

>>52869327
That's... Actually a good point. Fuck that's strong.

I still like Alpha Strike lists, though. The idea of armored dudes riding the lightning is what got me into Stormcast in the first place.

>>52869438
Play what you like

I don't want to shit all over you for liking the Skyborne Slayers - it's a fun battalion and a has a very cool playstyle.

If you like SS then try the Warrior Brotherhood. It's like SS but better. Use the old Knight-Azyros warscroll and wonderful things happen

>>52869333
Ogres are very resistant to Chaos corruption but prolonged exposure leads them to develop some mutations.

Other Ogres don't mind the mutations at all. In fact, they are a bit jealous of them because an extra limp or mouth helps with the eating.

Would it be possible to put shields on your Vanguard hunters just using the liberator bits?

>>52869459
I was playing Brotherhood til the change. I personally don't like using outdated Warscrolls, which is why I've reverted to SS. I don't think CV Hammerstrike is as good, though I'm always happy to be proven wrong.

>>52869490
If you didn't use the Shields, probably. Just have to cut down the gun arms a bit to get them on.

>>52869575
So youre fine with using an oudated battalion but not fine with using an outdated warscroll?

>>52869287
>Woodelf are actually better in melee than shooting these days

Seriously, woodelf shooting is surprisingly bad. Sisters are okay but horribly overcosted.

>>52869584
SS is never explicitly overwritten or updated. The Azyros is.

>>52869685
FAQ says you can use any version of a warscroll

>>52869100
>Implying he doesn't understand more than you will ever know

When you see someone winning with a seemingly shit list, either all of their opponents are terrible, or they are at a level so far above you, you simply can not understand what makes it strong.

>>52869712
Yeah no shit but it's dickish to use outdated units when they have been updated and fixed or balanced

Would you rather fight the Warplock engineer who only suffers a single wound when failing to empower Warp-lightning (no reason not to) or the one that suffers d6 wounds?

>>52869758
I know exactly what makes it "strong". Sayl + Bloodletters first turn charge with skyfires shooting your key units.
It has the option to use Saul + Stormfiends instead if theres a big enough threat that Skyfires can't deal with it alone, but then your bloodletters get shot to bits and lose their bonuses.

If you lose to such a basic strategy you're a moron

>>52868881
>Dispossessed are doing great
They really aren't. Even GW admitted they are a bit overcosted.

The actual units are fine, it is just they are all a bit to pricey.

>>52869787
So tell us how you would combat it then Caesar

>>52869785
I never knew about the updated Warlock Engineer. How come some of the Warscrolls on the app still use the plain white layout even when the new full colour+picture version is available? I've already updated it by deleting and redownloading it.

FUCK YOU YOU BETA FANBOY FUCKS. YOU HAD TO GO AND ACTUALLY BUY THIS ABORTION OF A GAME AND NOW GW IS AOSING MY 40K. FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU

purge you all with khaines wrath
>>52867684
that list is terrible
t.elf

>>52869286
>If his Skyfires are in a corner bubblewrapped the whole early game, I get free reign of the board with my non-Skyborne units. Win win.

Its that meme again

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>>52869847
>implying 40k hasn't been unplayable dogshit for years now

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paint your stupid blimps to if you want your port bonuses you lazy waacfag faggots

>>52869847
Hello friend. It's going to be ok. We're here for you.

Once it's over, you'll be happier.

>>52868474
what the fuck am I looking at?

It sure isn't whf

>>52868572
This is the stupidest shit I have ever seen.

Is there any chance of Bretonnia or a similar faction making its way to AoS. I want a medieval knight faction.

>>52869812
Its an easy win for my aetherstrike list

I have less drops so I force him to go first.

I deploy my raptors outside the threat range of his Sayl + Stormfiend combo

He uses Sayl on his Bloodletters, they get countercharged by birds, and the retaliation fire whittles them down to ~14-16 models remaining.

Skyfires can't do meaningful damage to my raptors because of the protectors (-1 hit), staunch defender (+1 save), and lantern of the tempest (reroll hit6). They can't do anything to my heroes because they either have a mirrorshield + staunch defender + lantern of the tempest (azyros), get deployed off the board (heraldor, venator), or are completely out of line of sight (castellant/veritant)

Now in my turn I shoot in the hero phase, shoot in the shooting phase, and after charging my judicators and birds into him I can shoot him in the combat phase after he kills those units.

Cunning deceiver helps him survive the first turn. If I get a double turn the game is basically over - the full shooting power of an aetherstrike is enough to table his army, or at least deal a crippling blow.

I've played against much tougher lists than this mixed chaos garbage

>>52869018
He's right though, that's exactly what it looks like.

>>52869948
AOS is not WHF

its time to accept it and move on

>>52869909
>Paint models with elements of every skyports colours on them
>Get to choose whatever skyport I want
>This is completely legal, as the rules ask only for the colours, and not a complete recreation

If the WAAC crowd want to force people to paint, then KO players shall also join the WAAC crowd to fight them.

And before anyone says that "No, the KO players that dont want to paint the right colours are the WAAC ones!", what sounds more like someone desperately trying to get an advantage:
A KO player who has their own colour scheme that they come up with, wanting to use one of the skyports rules, or

Their opponent at the other end of the table, screeching about how they are not allowed to use any of those rules and they have to play without them, knowing that this weakens the KO player.

>>52869948
>It sure isn't whf
Yeah, no shit. Did you click the wrong thread?

This setting takes place in a whole different setting, milennia after WHF ended. Of course the new shit looks different, it's like looking at a modern american soldier and being like "what the fuck am i looking at, that isn't a peloponesian warrior"

>>52869993
But why even play this instead of 40k? This shit is basically science fiction now.

What's the point in having two seperate games if you're only going to move them closer and closer together?

>>52869966
Maybe someday

I wouldnt hold your breath though

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>>52870016
>But why even play this instead of 40k? This shit is basically science fiction now.

Airships are a staple in fantasy

AOS is High Fantasy, which is very different from grimdark science fiction

>What's the point in having two seperate games if you're only going to move them closer and closer together?
Yeah pic related is basically an imperial knight, fuck you GW!!!!!!!!

>>52870016
Why would YOU play 40k? 40k in it's current state is rancid garbage and you know it

The fact it's moving to mimic the superior game says everything about it

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Hey guys

We've had a rough couple of days, but I just wanted you to know that I love you all

It's a good community most of the time, this game has made me feel more welcome and encouraged than some others

Stay cool /aos/

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>>52870016
Yeah, Dwarves in fancy ornate armor with harpoon guns is really new to the franchise.

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>>52870016
My nigger, dwarves had siege robots and war-zeppleins for years in WHF, the fuck are you smoking.

>>52870016
Dear Anon,
There is nothing about "science fiction" in AoS. As for me, it looks much like WoW now (uber-technological dwarves and such), but without awful cartoonish style and boobs everywhere. Barbaric/classic fantasy/grim aspect is yet to be established, as the universe is really young and much, much bigger then lots of similar fantasy worlds.

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>>52870078
Thank you for the kind words Anon.

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Alright, since AoS is full on High Fantasy, would it be possible to have this guy leading my Grot army?

And what model rules should I use for him?

>>52870115
>>52870107

If you seriously think that those are even close to shit like

>>52868572
>>52868492
>>52868474

then I don't even know

>>52870152
Maybe a dark elf model?

>>52870140
>but without awful cartoonish style

>>52868572

:thinking:

>>52870160
I was talking more about rules than the actually model itself.

>>52870152
dreadlord for sure

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Greetings, I've an IG army from 40k, but we're about to be destroyed.

What is the AoS equivalent for the Guard? Can you link good conversions from lasgun to whatever other weaponry would be needed.

I actually enjoy AoS, it's much faster with the basic box I had received 2 birthdays ago. Before I get the big rule book for AoS, what's the difference between the game modes and which one has points?

>>52870155
Shit like the later images is just the old shit plus centuries of technological innovation in a realm made of pure magic.

Once again, it's like you're pointing at a modern soldier and being upset that he doesn't look like an arquebusier.

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>>52870078
You too anon.
Stupid arguments will always occur, we just need to focus on the more important things in life. Like showing the 40kids that AoS is fun and their game can only improve by borrowing rules from us.
Plus it's fun to watch them freak out about it.

>>52870152

>search for some astonishing gay model

Go for any elf/darkelf/woodelf model just pick your poison bro

>>52870193
>Converting your guard into AoS
>Not just playing 8th ed 40k, which will be just like AoS but not require converting
Nigga, are you high?

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>>52870217
Our rules may be shit but at least our story and setting isn't.

>>52870155
Then fuck off. You can keep screaming your opinion but it's not going to change anyone's mind. Getting butthurt in public is just a cry for attention you fucknugget.

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>>52868058
>Buying a memegul
>Not converting one from a bent coat hanger and greenstuff

>>52870253
>in public

Where do you think we are?

>>52870193
>Greetings, I've an IG army from 40k, but we're about to be destroyed.
No youre not

>What is the AoS equivalent for the Guard?
Freeguild

>Before I get the big rule book for AoS
There isn't a rule book. The rules are free. You can find them in the back of any AOS campaign book or battletome, or the GW website, or the official Age of Sigmar phone app, or get a printed copy from any GW store

>what's the difference between the game modes and which one has points?
Open Play is the basic version of the game. Players can bring whatever they want to the table, and you're encouraged to have a conversation with your opponent and try to set up a fun game for all players.

Matched Play is more organized and competitive. There are rules for force organization and point costs. Formations and summoned units cost points. You can find the rules for this game mode in the General's Handbook (check the OP)

>>52870155
>Uhh i-if y-you seriously d-disagree with me y-you guys are stupid!! ...h-hello? ;_;

Fuck off saltlord, we entertained your autistic screeching now you're just getting boring. back to your 40k containment thread you go

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>>52870170
Dear Anon,
It isn't too cartoonish at all. You may compare this to random WoW picture - oversized weapons, rather silly face expression. There is nothing hyperbolic there in AoS. Everything seems more realistic, even the Kharadron Overlords.

>>52870274
>>52870253
I never knew you guys were so insecure, you need some help?

>>52870193

Welcome AoS more interesting universe, free guild is your choice until GW gives some solution for the old empire disband

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>>52870193
Freeguild is what you're after

They're made of normal human soldiers, supported by Griffin Riders and light cavalry armed with pistols and multi-barrelled rifles.

For tanks and artillery, ally with the Ironweld Arsenal.

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>>52870193
Play free peoples.

You have the starter box so use the Samecast Eternals as allys (grand alliance order) until you get all your models done.

>>52870193
It is interesting, but you actually can field IG lorewize in AoS. Armed with micro-hysh luminarcs, and with baneblades beeng common chamonite chariots bearing black powder cannons. Custom warscrolls is all you need! Sounds insane, I know.

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>>52870231
It's all old, gay, and boring now.
Two guard staples, entire sectors are gone and they are mentioned as side stories about space Marines.
About 5 other major guard planets have been wiped out in the new fluff without any narrative, just gone.

The new edition doesn't have guard and all the heroes are dead without mention.

Imperial Guard has been wiped out by the Great Nothing, and the genocide wasn't noticed except as quick side notes in other faction's and race's books.

So, anyone know an AoS faction needing tons of humans and what could Leman Russ and Chimeras be converted to? Anything?

>>52870288
>Warcraft art is made by one person.

Although ironically, a lot of the 'old' WHFB art was made by Mark Gibbons, who has been a member of the Sons of the Storm art collective who have been super influential at Blizzard.

>>52870358
>The new edition doesn't have guard
How can anyone be stupid enough to believe this

>So, anyone know an AoS faction needing tons of humans
Like 5 people have told you the answer to this already: Freeguild

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>>52870372
samwise is a fagget. Blizzard died after Warcraft 3.

>>52870358
Just add some fantasy bits from any empire kits such as shields or twin-taled comet logo and field it as a steam tank of "New pattern". Lore is SUPER flexible, Anon, take use of that.

>>52870358
I feel sorry for whoever has to sit on the other side of the table from someone playing converted guardsmen and tanks as freeguild.

>>52870299
So regarding the death of 40k are you on the first or second stage of grief? need some help?

>>52870358

I just can think in Free people+Iron Arsenal there are even tanks

>>52870403
What death? It's only getting better my dude.

>>52870358
Posted before I noticed these
>>52870356
>>52870340
>>52870328
>>52870302
>>52870267
Thank you all for the sincere answer.
Here we go free guild. Jumping into fluff hard now.

>>52869995
>lazy grey tide waacfag port hopper detected
kill yourself

>>52870433
Unfortunately there isnt much fluff written about the Free People yet. Most of the narrative focused on the forces of Order being rallied by the Stormcast and pushing back against Chaos

There's some good bits in Warhammer Quest: Shadows Over Hammerhal about regular people living in these insane high fantasy lands

>>52870433
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Warhammer?Nu=product.repositoryId&N=102351+3139234964&qty=12&sorting=rec&view=table&categoryId=cat440002a-flat

>>52870372
Dear Anon,
Art may be made by one person, but nothing actually stop Blizzard from making their games look other way. But as we might see, they didn't. I personnally don't like oversized axes/fangs/boobs/elven ears as I have nothing to compensate. To put everything into the nutshell - AoS is having of the positive sides of modern high-fantasy without beeng childish. If you like more realistic and more grim fantasy, I personally would advice you to see Witcher.

>>52870460
>Warhammer Quest: Shadows Over Hammerhal

Has anyone uploaded the fluff book to that yet?

>>52870442
What is the problem with someone wanting to use different port rules now and then anyway?

Most port rules heavily favour a certain army build, so will need you change a few units anyway. Are you saying people are never allowed to try different lists?

>>52870482
I haven't seen it but theres a slaanesh sorcerer in there so I want to see what its all about

>>52870486
>Are you saying people are never allowed to try different lists?
Yep. If you painted your army as Barak-Nar and you want to play something else, time to strip some models.

Someone have SCGT top lists?

>>52870486
follow the rules in your codex you faggot.

>>52870510

HAHAHA golden answer (fuck yourself autist)

>>52870460
How can humans even compete?

Not in the old world, not in the new universe, and certainly not in the year 40k.

Fuggggghhhhhhhhhhh

>>52870480
What the fuck are you even saying? Half of that post illegible garbage. And if you don't like over the top shit, why the hell are you buying Games Workshop products? Are you the slavposter, returned to haunt us once more?

>>52870558
Freeguild handgunners wreak shit in huge squads and they are cheap.

>>52870558
Gunpowder and magic still fuck shit up

>>52870386
>Blizzard died
Can't contain my keks

>>52869909
>>52870442
>>52870510
>Bringing up this debate again
Fucking kill yourself and spare us the trouble of having to share this planet with you for even one second longer.

>>52870540
Ok, so I will put all the ports colours on my models and say they come from Barak Zir-Kus, a Skyport made immigrants from all skyports.

According to rules as written, this means I can choose whichever set of skyport rules I want..

>>52868497

Considering Karl Franz is currently the living body of Sigmar in Azyr, it's not a ridiculous notion that Karlie F could be seen as the mortal persona of Sigmar reborn before he revealed his divine nature

>>52870558

Technology, gryphons and sigmar power can do the miracle

>>52870573
The anon you're responding to is saying "Blizzard could make warcraft look less terrible but doesn't because the aesthetic is terrible, AoS looks less bad than Warcraft"

>>52870558
Pike and shotte kills anything as long as you have enough guys to throw at the enemy. Freeguild also have the technical advantage and strong alliances to back them up.

>>52870628
Are you a wizard? I didn't get that at all from that sentence.

>>52870615
Karl Franz as the 'jezus' to Sigmar? I can dig it.

>>52868949

Skyborne slayers isn't legal anymore

>>52870615
I think that is pretty much the canon explanation, freeguild under sigmar's domain revere the heroes of the old world as saints and demigods.

>>52870653
>Art may be made by one person, but nothing actually stop Blizzard from making their games look other way
"That art might be made by one person, but Blizzard is the one making the creative decisions and could veto bad art if they wanted to"

>I personnally don't like oversized axes/fangs/boobs/elven ears as I have nothing to compensate.
"I dislike warcraft's aesthetic"

>To put everything into the nutshell - AoS is having of the positive sides of modern high-fantasy without beeng childish.
"AoS is a high fantasy setting with less cartoony lolrandom exaggeration than warcraft"

>If you like more realistic and more grim fantasy, I personally would advice you to see Witcher.
If you want a more low-fantasy setting, consider something like "The Witcher" series.

Holy shit I added up all of my destruction stuff. Can I even play a game of 5000 points?


Allegiance: Destruction

Leaders
Gordrakk The Fist of Gork (700)
- General
Orruk Megaboss (140)
- Artefact: Talisman of Protection
Orruk Warchanter (80)
Orruk Weirdnob Shaman (120)
Orruk Warboss On Wyvern (240)
Orruk Warboss On Wyvern (240)
Orruk Great Shaman (140)
Grot Warboss (80)
- Moon Prodder & Giant Cave Squig
Savage Big Boss (100)
- Stonecleava
Wurrgog Prophet (140)

Battleline
10 x Orruk Ardboys (180)
- Ironjawz Battleline
5 x Orruk Brutes (180)
- Ironjawz Battleline
3 x Orruk Gore Gruntas (180)
- Ironjawz Battleline
30 x Orruks (300)
- Pair of Choppas
40 x Moonclan Grots (240)
- Pokin Spears & Moon Shields
10 x Grot Wolf Riders (200)
- Slittas & Wolf Bows
- Gitmob Grots Battleline
10 x Savage Orruks (100)
10 x Savage Boarboy Maniaks (320)
- Bonesplitterz Battleline

Units
3 x Orruk Boar Chariots (240)
5 x Cave Squigs (60)
1 x Grot Fanatics (30)
2 x Grot Squig Herders (20)
5 x Grot Squig Hoppers (80)
10 x Savage Orruk Arrowboys (100)
10 x Savage Orruk Morboys (120)
2 x Savage Big Stabbas (100)

Behemoths
Mangler Squigs (240)
Arachnarok Spider (280)

War Machines
Doom Diver Catapult (120)
Grot Rock Lobber (100)
Grot Spear Chukka (120)

Scenery
Balewind Vortex (100)

Total: 5390/2000

>>52870662
Why not?

If it has points in the GHB, it's legal

>>52870653
>Karl Franz - Herald of the Heldenhammer and patron of the soldiery
>Marius Leitdorf - Trickster god, mercurial and prone to unpredictable blessings
>Luthor Huss - Prophet of the chosen, empowers individuals with visions and heroism
>Balthasar Gelt - The Loremaster, a mysterious figure representing both subversion and magical achievements

>>52869018
>Waaah people like something I don't like

How tall are the Bloodthirster and Changer of Ways respectively?

>>52870799
>Ludwig Schwarzhelm - Sigmar's Standardbearer, bringing hope to the hopeless
>Kurt Helborg - The Blade of Sigmar, punishing the cruel and the evil
>Markus Wulfhart - The hunter, patron of peasants and defender of new settlements

>>52870601
>look at me I'm a total faggot special snowflake who doesn't want to follow his codex rules

kill yourself

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>>52869847
>Being this ass mad

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Is this the laziest paintjob of all times?

>>52870993
no. Its sick.

>>52870993
sauce ?

>>52870993
noice airbrush

>>52870993
All that matters is the final result - if it looks good it doesnt matter if its an easy technique or not

>>52870993
>Not just washed and drybrushed
>Well-blended with color variation and crisp whites
>"Lazy"

>>52871001
In the sense that someone got sick over white basecoated miniatures?

>>52870993
some airbrush skill there.
Tuto ?

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>>52871023
>Well-blended
>he has never seen thinned washes

>>52870993
Is there a full force ? how would one apply this to skellington ?

>>52870933
But Anon- that IS following the codex rules,

>>52870993
Well, those are ghosts. Frankly, what do you expect?

>>52871062
>tfw blending describes a process and not a medium

>>52870799
>Karl Franz soul is bound to the imperial silver seal, which some how survived the end times. It's carried by the War Marshal of the Free Guild so that Franz may advise them in war and politics.

>>52870866
>The Imperial Standard is a scared relic, trusted to only the greatest of the Free Guild's forces. When the Imperial Standard was recovered from the world that was, they found Lugwig's gauntlet still clinging to it's pole. Not even the strongest of the Stormcast has been able to remove it. It was decided to simple leave the hand where it was, for not even death would make Lugwig abandon the Imperial colours.

>>52870993
Idk, if its easy how do you fo this ? Ive seen version of ethereal but much more basic.

>>52870993
Anon, the quality of a paintjob isn't determined by the number of hours you put into it. It's determined by whether or not your army looks good. And this army looks 1000 times better than certain "realistic" miniatures with NMM all over, texture dirt and rust that just look like dirty turds in the end.

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>>52870993
You're not posting your own model to jerk on the comment, are you ?

>>52871142
You apply many many layers of thinned down waywatcher green and nuln oil, and choose carefully where you apply it.

>>52871085
kill yourself waacfag

>>52871118
>Helborgites and Stalhelmians are rival religious factions with big theological debates and ritual combat over which patron deity is more in Sigmar's favor
>Helborg and Schwarzhelm watch this and fist bump in the afterlife.

>tfw regular humans have no place in AoS
out-teched by KO
out-numbered by Skaven
out-humaned by SE
:(

>>52871236
>Out-humaned by SE
No. SE, like both Space Marines and IRL special forces, are there to rapidly strike the enemy's weak points and make the operations easier for the other infantry. They fold pretty easily once they get outnumbered and stuck in battles of attrition.

City of Secrets has them get rekt by tzeentch cultists and tzaangors because for every one guy a liberator pulps with his hammer, eight more are jumping on him and shooting warpflame at him.

Humans are needed to hold the forces of evil at bay and it would be a mistake to rely on the stormcast for everything.

>>52871301
free guild get even more rekt in city of secrets tho
and SE only get rekt because most were out killing orks

>>52871236

If you think you are in bad spot just see at us death players... Weak as fuck compared to new armies, with an extreme lack of models for our factions even cannot make a mono faction competitive and no love from GW as other alliances

Hard time for skelly-lovers

>>52869019
No power creep here. . .

>>52871350
at least death has sort of a place in the fluff

>>52871360
>power creep on legacy armies

u wot m8

>>52871341
"Even more rekt" isn't really true, stormcast and freeguild were both slaughtered down to a handful.

That being said, the point wasn't that Stormcast are less powerful than freeguild, the point is that they're not super warriors who can go in outnumbered 100 to 1 and come out okay.

>>52871391
idk, to me it seemed like SE were the ones to really protect the city, free guild seemed to only be good for patrolling around and stopping some petty crime / small beastmen/ork raids or something
which just makes free guild feel so useless

>>52870993
I dont know if its lazy its still better than 95% of painted armies I ever saw.

>>52871423
Freeguild were largely infiltrated by tzeentch cultists, because mortals can be tempted and all that jazz.

That being said, the push for the crystal tower still largely achieved its operational goal with like two under-manned watch companies against a legitimate chaos incursion, so hey.

>>52871423
Stormcast are tasked with waging war to reclaim lands from under the rule of chaos

The building of cities and daily defense is up to the free people

Just had a thought. . .

> Base shape is not enforced in AoS. Someone even posted a blurb from WD saying hex bases are fine even.

> Chaos armies can be used in AoS or 40K

> Ergo, round bases cannot be enforced in 40K either.

>>52871469
that just seems way less cool than 40k IG's endless waves of men, tanks and artillery

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So how's this for a ToE list?

Oh look, it's the freeguild vs stormcast argument again. For the 500th time. Such fresh content in these threads.

>>52871498
If you're a 15 year old mall ninja or a /k/ poster, sure.

>>52871498
its literally what the IG do in 40k

literally the same fucking thing

>>52871498
Tankie pls leave

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>>52871509
Nice meme xDDDDD

>>52871350
>Weak as fuck compared to new armies
Like every other army without a battletome and even some with. Youre not even in that bad of a spot.

>extreme lack of models
Fucking what, you have a shitload of models.

> even cannot make a mono faction competitive
Like every other army without a battletome

Jesus you death players are so fucking whiney youd think you had one model between you and all your models hit and wounded on 6s and had no armour save.

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>>52871118
>>52871217
>The leader of the Freeguild is known as the "Magnus," For as Magnus the Pious united the Empire, so must the Magnus united the guilds.

>Knights of the Freeguild have been known to go on pilgrimages to the Realm of Beasts, searching for the God Beast "Ulric." In was believed that this massive wolf taught young Sigmar the ways of combat before the Age of Myth. It's believed his help is need now more than ever.

>Those travelling in the realm of beast, may come across a old man who smells of wet dog. Despite his fragile appearance, he seems to able to survive, even thrive in the frozen wasteland he lives in. Those who run into him must suffer a barrage of insults. Even the Stormcast are not spared his insults as he refures to them as "Fops," "Dandy Gold" and "Flower Sniffing, Gold Flaunting, Over Dressed Rieklanders, with their heads so far up their arses they need to light their own farts to be able to see."

>Despite this, there is sometime wisdom in his rudeness.

>>52871548
I know flesh eater courts has a battletome

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Still wip but even so ...

GLORY TO KHORNE

>>52871548
threadly reminder that there isnt any death player in the top 50

>>52871548
>Like every other army without a battletome and even some with. Youre not even in that bad of a spot.
And yet all the tournament lists are Grand Alliance combinations... And if you don't run a monolist, your battletome is about as relevant as your paint scheme...

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Any rumblings of Tomb Kings coming back yet?

>>52870711

It's a tricky half legal battalion because they deleted it in the new stormcast book but it's still in the GHB

It's not an insanely powerful battalion anyway so I wouldn't care if someone used it

Someone rate my flesh eater court list and give recommendations to improve.

AGK on terrorgheist
2 30 man squads of crypt ghouls
1 10 man squad of crypt ghouls
3 3 man squads of crypt horrors
1 3 man squad crypt flayers
Zombie dragon

>>52871642
Nope, and theyre probably not. Might see a deathrattle book this year though, but your tomb kings are dust. Archers, warriors, chariots, horsemen and anything in the old skeleton style are never coming back.

>>52871548

>No Battletome as excuse for being the most left behind alliance

You can do it better GW, at least see your tournament and how death is down mid table compared to the other three alliances

>>52871540
Didn't mean to meme had this and HHG open and didn't read before posting.

>>52871568
>The Knights of Leitdorf are a mercurial ally, prone to strange quests undertaken following odd dreams or visions, often with seemingly nonsensical goals.

>Yet, the undertaking of these quests always brings them to where they are needed most, revealing the nugget of wisdom in the Mad god's ramblings.

>>52871642
>any hope for a full resculp and relaunch of that army that army that they lost money on for 30 years only to break even with the original molds in the last sale before being squatted ?

No.

>>52871644
It wasn't deleted with SCE book. It was never part of the original SCE battletome, so the exclusion of it doesn't really mean anything.

>>52871644
It was never in the old stormcast book. Its from the Grand Alliance book. Why would it get printed in the new stormcast book?

Its not "half legal" its completely legal.

So what makes 'Death' bad? Cuz I don't see it?

And don't come whining about battletomes and bullshit. Recent tournaments always run Grand Alliance lists.

>>52871592
Cool anon

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Looking to get into AOS as Soulblight.
Hows this for a 1k list to get me started?
Allegiance: Death
Vampire Lord (140)
- General
- Mount: Flying Horror
- Trait: Ruler of the Night
- Artefact: Tomb Blade
Vampire Lord (140)
- General
- Mount: Flying Horror
5 x Blood Knights (260)
5 x Blood Knights (260)
3 x Vargheists (160)

Total: 960/2000

>>52871745
From what I've seen of at least flesh eaters which is my only experience of death. They're hard hitting at melee with some decent ranged attacks based a good bit on fear such as terrorgheist and crypt flayers but they don't have and updated battletome making them sce levels of poweful

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>>52871674
>Gw using tournament results to dictate their release cycle

Reminder that SCGT uses so many house rules that its not indicative of what a regular matched play tournament is like

Humans aren't mammals you fucking retard. They're humans. Yes they are listed as Mammalia (Homo Sapiens) but they are only listed in that section for reference. Since they are not mammals, they get their own mechanics as well.

>>52871836
Looks quite mild to me:

A Natural roll of a 6 to hit and to wound will always succeed.
>Persisting effects & Spells with the same name do not stack however two different abilities giving the same effect do stack.
>The dice to see who takes the initiative at the start of each Battle Round may not be rerolled or modified in any way.
>For clarity the “Battle Begins” section of the rules will not be used.
>Models which cannot be attacked or targeted are unable to score or contest objectives (Carrion/Changeling etc)
>You must select a Leader to be your army General
>A prayer can only be used once per turn regardless which priest is “casting” it in the same manner as spells

And of course the point changes, which we already can use anyway so that's up for debate.

>>52871898
>custom point values
>changes to fundamental mechanics
>2 more Rule of One
>outright removing some abilities from the game

It's totally a normal matched play game guys!!

>>52871938
>outright removing some abilities from the game
Which ones are removed?
>'Custom'
You mean the same ones that were shared on the site, and that can be used by anyone? They are even in the scrollbuilder.
>changes to fundamental mechanics
Are they using 8-sided dice?

>>52871938
>custom point values
Not custom, the trial ones released from GW for GHB2

>changes to fundamental mechanics
No?

>2 more Rule of One
Rolling prayers into the same rule of one that was written without prayers in mind. Also prayers are just basically spells.

>outright removing some abilities from the game
They didnt remove anything.

Do you have reading problems?

>>52871711
>The scared animal and patron saint of the Knights of Leitdorf is "Daisy," the steed of the Mad Count. While the knights claim she is an intelligent God-Beast, all evidence suggest she is just a normal horse. Of course, this doesn't explain how she got on the roof of Sigmar's Palace.

Allegiance: Order
Aether-Khemist (100)
Anointed Of Asuryan On Frostheart Phoenix (260)
- General
- Trait: Legendary Fighter
- Artefact: Relic Blade
Celestial Hurricanum With Celestial Battlemage (320)
40 x Arkanaut Company (480)
- 12x Light Skyhooks
5 x Liberators (100)
- Warhammers
- 1x Grandhammers
5 x Liberators (100)
- Warhammers
- 1x Grandhammers
2 x Fulminators (240)
2 x Fulminators (240)
3 x Prosecutors with Stormcall Javelins (80)
- 1x Stormsurge Tridents
3 x Prosecutors with Stormcall Javelins (80)
- 1x Stormsurge Tridents

Total: 2000/2000

>>52871847
>Humans aren't mammals you fucking retard.
scientifically illiterate retard detected

>>52872034
>Which ones are removed?
Abilities that don't effect turn order roll has no effect

The points shared by GW were a "preview" of a work in progress version of the new GHB. They were not final or official. Choosing to use them is by definition using custom point values.

Not allowing more than 1 ability of the same name to be active and making a hit roll of 6 always succeed is changing the fundamentals of the game.

>>52872045
>Rolling prayers into the same rule of one that was written without prayers in mind.
Because slaughterpriests and lord-relictor didn't exist before the GHB, right?

GW could make all the changes that the SCGT has made, but don't pretend that the SCGT is anything but an independent scene with a ton of house rules and that it can be used to debate the state of matched play.

>>52872045
SCGT puts out legit rules packs that are totally reasonable. Ignore the waacfaggot

>>52871938
stop being an autistic waacfaggot

>>52872096
>Humans aren't mammals you fucking retard. They're humans. Yes they are listed as Mammalia (Homo Sapiens) but they are only listed in that section for reference. Since they are not mammals, they get their own mechanics as well.

>(((science)))

>>52871748
He'll never get around to painting it.

>>52872139
>waac
You are not using this term correctly at all

>>52872164
shut up waacfag

>>52872141
take your creationist revisionist cherry picking cosmology back to /pol faggot

>>52868949

Because you basically just deep strike your speed bump units unless you really go full throttle on protectors. It's great fun if you like running units of 20 liberators though, you'll get surprisingly good damage out of 4 grandhammers with a celestant buff and staunch defender.

Hammerstrike works because you can shove 10-20 retributors right in someone's face on your own terms and that'll make a serious dent with their starsouls alone. Protectors and decimators lose what makes them special if they take starsouls so it's kind of a wash to do the same thing with them.

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>>52872198
Seriously, Humans aren't mammals you fucking retard. They're humans. Yes they are listed as Mammalia (Homo Sapiens) but they are only listed in that section for reference. Since they are not mammals, they get their own mechanics as well.

How do you not get this?

>>52872249
>look at me guys I failed middle school biology and now I'm shitting up /aosg with my asinine shit-posting that demonstrates I'm an inbred uneducated faggot

>mammal discussion on /aosg/

At least its not autistic paint discussion but...

>>52871301
>City of Secrets has them get rekt by tzeentch cultists and tzaangors because for every one guy a liberator pulps with his hammer, eight more are jumping on him and shooting warpflame at him.
It reality, it's skyfires flying repeatedly through their ranks to the music of "Can't Touch Me"

>>52868096
>lard kroak on a vortex
Don't be that guy anon

>>52872115
>Abilities that don't effect turn order roll has no effect
There are no abilities that specifically do this, only things like the starseers rerolls were limited to not affecting priority. Its a big difference to "Removing abilities".

>The points shared by GW were a "preview" of a work in progress version of the new GHB. They were not final or official. Choosing to use them is by definition using custom point values.
They are official. SCGT is the official trial event for them.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/02/07/the-generals-handbook-ii-wip-points-sneak-peek/

>Not allowing more than 1 ability of the same name to be active
On the same unit. So you cant stack bloodsecrator buffs

>and making a hit roll of 6 always succeed is changing the fundamentals of the game.
So you dont have situations where you can make models immune to damage.

None of these are even extreme changes, or even out of character with rules in the GHB. They hardly even affect the way you build your army, with the exception that youre no longer spamming characters for the same buff or trying to pull off some janky borderline cheating nonsense.

>>52872249
American education everyone, humans are not mammals.

>Kingdom: Animalia
>Phylum: Chordata
>Class: Mammalia
>Order: Primates
>Suborder: Haplorhini
>Family: Hominidae
>Genus: Homo

Anon, just because you are a surviving abortion baby and weren't breastfed by your crack-addicted mother doesn't make the rest of us into reptiles.