/swg/ Star Wars General: My Boyfriend Edition

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The more I look at the lightsaber trees the weirder they are.

Guardians have almost no Intellect skills and are about leading people and protecting them. Why do they use intellect for their lightsaber style?
Niman for Consulars uses Willpower. THEY HAVE ALL INTELLECT SKILLS! It's also WAY more powerful then any other lightsaber tree, as it has both +characteristic AND +Force Rating in it.
Seekers are all cavemen druids, yet their lightsaber style is about bouncing around acrobatically.
Sentinal Artisan is just really kinda bizarre. Shien gives boosts to Streetwise and Underworld, yet those aren't even class skills.

I feel like they got trapped into making them fit in a symmetrical pattern of each one using a different attribute, but then almost immediately ran out of attributes that actually made sense for each one, and started crowbaring random poo poo in. They also I think got stuck trying to make a "JEDI" version of each of the original classes, so Sentinals get their weird wizard mechanic tree, and Seekers just sorta exist in their weird hyper-focused state in general.

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>>52860009
#JustKyloRenThings

I'm having issues finding a SW themed Tabletop.

Any other place I can look for a game? Roll20 games seem so... meh.

I've never played a SW tabletop, only DnD 5e, and I really want to find one.

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>Renposter is back
HEY

>>52860009
>My Boyfriend Edition

You know what, after the last thread it's actually nice to see you.

>>52860009
I missed you, Renanon <3

>>52860009
>Star Wars in the title

ohboyherewego.jpg

>>52860142
Literally the only good Star Wars game I've been in has been from /swg/.

>>52860150
>>52860160
>>52860189
I never truly left <3

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>>52860320
I feel bad that your "boyfriend" was stuck in such a shit movie. Hopefully tlj will be much much better.

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>tfw forever GM
>the only IRL people willing to GM only want to do meatgrinder D&D crawls
>every starwars GM I've found online has been absolutely terrible
>I will never get to play anything from my enormous Starwars character hanger

Words cannot describe this feel

>>52860009
What are some interesting but not often used sapient species that you like? I'm writing up a new campaign and want to think outside the box with some minor characters and organizations

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>>52860309
Here's a new bingo card just in case.

>>52860009
Can somebody tell me what the deal is with the force awakens pack for FFG's system?

Is it like a starter kit to a game they're going to release or some kind of era pack?

Reminder:
>Do not respond to Shitposters
>Do not reply to Empire Apologists
>Do not humor the /pol/ posters

This thread is about the fictional Star Wars Universe. Let this post be the first and/or last mention of it.

>>52860309
I mean it shouldn't actually make a difference for someone using the catalog search function as it reads the OP text as well.

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>>52860083
Yeah, I hate the lightsaber trees all going for alternate stats too. Some of them fit (Ataru is supposed to be flippy after all) but making it for all of them seems a little weird. Also gets lame if you ever want to take more than one saber tree (as might fit a battlemaster character) since you will have to waste 10 XP on a talent you will never use since having more than one "alternate" stat for use with the Lightsaber skill is of zero value at best. At a minimum I would like them to do something like have the talent be "use alternate stat and/or some minor benefit" to solve the XP waste issue.

The alternate stat thing for all the lightsaber trees is probably a little silly anyway since the main goal seems to be letting every Jedi type be badass with a lightsaber. Which SOUNDS good but really is kind of solving a problem that isn't there; we don't have rules to make every EotE or AOR character be awesome with a blaster after all. I'm not sure having a Jedi librarian or diplomatic specialist be stuck with just using an "off stat" is that crippling; if they buy ranks in the lightsaber skill they'll be weaker than a specialist that focused on the area but would they really be that weak against your average enemies? Even just being your average 2 Agility low skill schmuck doesn't make you useless in combat. You won't be as much help against a Boba Fett type awesome guy compared to Mr. Hired Gun with 3+ Agility and lots of Ranged skill, but you can hit minions and the like with a decent chance of success. And if you buy skill up you can be pretty good at hitting, you just lack the Triumphs the specialist can roll more of. I don't see a problem with making at least some of the lightsaber trees lack a "use your uber-stat" talent. The diplomat can pick up ranks in Lightsaber and still be decent enough with a lightsaber assuming the rest of the talents help him out enough. Lets the guy who wants to focus on being Zorro the Jedi swashbuckler have his niche too.

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>>52860401
Exemplary image.

>>52860459
The only good post is a Renpost.

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>>52860390
Xexto, talz, chadrafan, barabel, quermian, and my personal favorite chua

>>52860390
I've always liked the Verpine, they seem to only exist in background info though.

>>52860390
I feel like the Gand don't get enough use, they have an interesting naming convention in which names have to be earned, which would make an interesting marker for character progress and their own force tradition based around force-enhanced tracking

>>52860597
>they seem to only exist in background info though.
I literally only know them from Karen "Muh Mando railgunz" Traviss

>>52860390
Zeltron. Send your PCs to the planet of the space babes.

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>>52860714
Gand are mechanically very sound but they look like absolute shit so nobody ever plays them.
>>52860390
I like Gank. They look cool as fuck.

>>52860803
Gank are dope, but their starting cybernetics thing isn't very good because cheap cybernetics are generally almost useless afaik

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>>52860401
I wonder what the minimum number of words/posts you could use to get a bingo.

"Luke, did I ever tell you my good friend Snoke? Back then he was a lot larger. Not YUUUUUGE, mind you, but larger than a Consular-class cruiser..."

>>52860714
>>52860803
>>52860839
I had a player playing a specialty super cyborg from a derelict Zsinj project in my Imperial Remnant game, slapped them in Terror Trooper armor from TFU2.

>>52860390
Rattattaki, ever since asajj was retconned to not be one

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>>52860401
Fixed for ya.

>>52860442
By singling people out you're just as bad.

How about this

>Reminder:
>NO REAL-WORLD POLITICS

It's that simple, no matter what side of the political spectrum you fall under.

Does Slicer Tools proc twice off Quantum Storm?

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>>52860774

Speaking of, I don't know if /swg/ is alreadu aware but there's actually a Zeltron girl in one of the new yr novels.

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>>52860975
What if I'm an absolute centrist?

Dark Greetings. :3

>>52860407
>Unlike our other Beginner Games, The Force Awakens Beginner Game will not be followed by a new Star Wars RPG game line. Instead, it draws upon the core mechanics shared by Star Wars®: Age of Rebellion™, Star Wars®: Edge of the Empire™, and Star Wars®: Force and Destiny™. Players interested in continuing their Star Wars adventures can do so through any of these fully compatible systems.

So its just an adventure set in the time period. Works with their other stuff

>>52861099
Porn when?

>>52860390
Ascendancy Chiss and Miraluka.

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>>52860390
Got a few homebrew species that might be useful.
https://coinsandscrolls.blogspot.ca/2017/02/species-renlars.html
>Big egg-laying lizard things. They are all haunted.

https://coinsandscrolls.blogspot.ca/2017/02/species-dengo-dengo.html
>The clones of an eccentric warlord.

https://coinsandscrolls.blogspot.ca/2017/02/transference-monks.html
>Baffling money-storing... things.

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>>52861309
>>>/co/91780008

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>>52860390
Harch are fairly uncommon

>>52861699
I think that's such a goofy fucking alien design. I don't hate it because goofy and star wars go together well, but it's hard to take Trench seriously at all.

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>>52861793
Spider's are pretty goofy things sometimes.
Trench did ok considering he had to fend off Skywalker in a cheaty stealth ship

>>52861863
I think if they made his pedipalps smaller and had them cover his mouth ( like a large mustache), and spaced his arms out more, down the sides of his torso, it'd do wonders for his design.

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>>52861793
I kinda liked Trench and I was okay with the whole "tarantula-dude" thing. I would have liked him better if they had gone with a body type like the boss from Monster's Inc. Just to get a more alien aesthetic. Since it was a cartoon, they didn't need to maintain a humanoid-with-a-twist body style.

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More info on Wave VI wheeeeeen

>>52861914
Wave VI?

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2015/2/26/wave-vi-is-now-available/

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>>52861900
>>52861913
Guess there's only so much you can do making a cartoon that won't give younglings nightmares for days.
If they where a bit shorter in stature, heavier build and less 'bipedal' it would also make them a bit better looking too.

Arcona are also one of those species you don't see much, I did an NPC which was sort of the Tyrone Biggums of star wars, constantly turning up looking for salt, offering disgusting 'favours' for a shakers worth and randomly stealing various, cheap gadgets so he could sell them for more salt.

>>52861978
>>52861914

Or the other wave VI?
https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2017/3/14/swm-up-close-and-personal/

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>>52862024
>won't give younglings nightmares for days.
Yeah, well if a spider body was okay for Disney, it should be okay for Star Wars. Which is now also Disney.
If I wanted an edgier look, I would have said Azmodan.

Pardon me, but does anyone have that image of the drunk off his ass scraggly jedi who fell of the bench at the cantina?

Help me design an ithorian scientist who designs chemical and biological weapons for the empire in exchange for ithors saftey as an antagonist for my AoR players. Thinking they get trapped in his research facility. Do you think having him develop the blackwing virus is to much? Maybe weaponizing the ragkoul virus?

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>>52862096
This one?

>>52862142
How do you want your scientist to be? Is he conflicted about what he's doing? Has he made peace with the fact that he's doing something evil for what he sees as good intentions?
Of is he just a cackling mad scientist?

>>52862210

That's the one. Thank you.

>>52862212
I'm torn. Part of me wants him to be working towards things that will kill large amounts of people, but leave the environment untouched. and him to be absolutely gleeful when he makes progress. I dunno if that makes him a mad scientist, or just committed to his work and his priorities.

>>52862210
Whats this from? Full comic?

>>52862271
He could be an Oppenheimer type.

>>52862299
could work. I think i'm gonna have him eagerly working in order to convince the empire it has no need for a second death star.

>>52862271
He could also be sort if tricked/indoctrinated by the Empire, shown propaganda of how much chaos and damage to the environment(s) and quality of life the Rebels are causing. The Imperial agent assigned to him has made sure to condition the scientist that beyond a doubt, killing Rebels en-masse is the only way to ensure peace and life. Convince the Ithorian that he is the gardener that occasionally has to kill a few weeds so that everything else can grow.

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>>52862056
I was thinking more like a mouse spider or funnel web- really bulky, black and then have him waving around a brace of pistols like a pirate or something

>>52862142
Both of those are pretty serious shit, PC's get infected by them it's a game over for that character
Ithorian is a weird pick for the species, they're culturally quite placid and peace loving hippys that generally don't go in for that, so he's either a tortured soul or the most evil, moustache twirling bastard ever

>>52862334
I dunno, He's seen what the empire can do, and intends to do, but he volunteered to help them find more eco friendly ways to do it, because they're going to do it no matter what, and in exchange, they've taken they're hands off Ithor., the weeds metaphor, might be how he views most sentient, who don't look after their planets, for sure.
>>52862336
They're also some of the most gifted species when it comes to bio engineering and environmental sciences, and again, he's doing it as part of a deal and to lessen their environmental impact when it concerns to population removal.
desu, I have part of his monologue to the party planned out.
"Do you have any idea how many species of flora and fauna went extinct when the empire blew up Alderaan? All for what? To quell a few roudy partisans? How many more will be extinguished as this pointless rages across countless sectors and numerous worlds? Don't you see, you rebels, you claim, to fight for the "little guy" that you're looking out for him? is that so? What about the [insert small rodent only found on alderaan, sensitive flora that was tainted by the presence of a secret rebel base,] Just how many Wampas did you kill on hoth, because they were inconveniencing you, or worse, for pure sport by bored soldiers? No, I fight for them, the little guy. What stake do they have in who controls Coruscant? Why should trillions of them die because the ultimately petty squabbles of sentients? "
Yeah, I know it could use some work, but I feel like that captures his motives and stuff.

>>52862544
You could go back to the 90's when they had all those eco-heros and environmental terrorists (ie Poison Ivy, Captain Planet etc) and gratuitously steal all their goodies and twist it to a bit of a Star Wars bent.
That way tap into the organic poisons and like to make 'plant cleaning agents' which purge them of sentient species, rather than the more necromancy type viruses

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>>52862334
>>52862544
>>52862723
>literally wanting to turn the empire in your campaign's cartoon villain

>>52862800
Where's the problem here? The empire IS a cartoon villain organization, no more serious or ambiguous than Cobra or V.E.N.O.M. or the Decepticons

>>52862800
>>52862873
DON'T DO IT

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>>52863013

>>52862800
Naw. it'd mostly just be this guy, Imagine if the empire could have killed all of alderann without blowing it up? It'd be easier to assume no responsibility, the rebellion would have a harder time using it as rallying call, etc

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Have you hunted a whaladon today, /swg/?

Given that compact repulsor, energy projection and holographic tech exists would it be possible for someone to fake being a Jedi? As a stage act or even wearing some sort of rig under a bulky robe?

I'm picturing someone like an old-timey revivalist or huckster, gathering big crowds, impressing them with tricks and asking for "donations" for a new temple or something

>>52863074
Wanted to, but was too busy burning down some rainforests to try and find a city.

>>52863112
My stage magician PC shoots lightning from his hands using a specialized rig, so yeah, go for it. Might cause some trouble when you draw real Inquisitors for your act, but you reap what you sow and all that.

>>52863112
That actually happened in the OLD Marvel comics. Vader got an actor to undergo cosmetic surgery to look like Obi-Wan and had him meet up with Luke, who was fooled by it for a while.

>>52863112
I used to play a bounty hunter who used technology to intimidate people into thinking that he had force powers. It's quite a bit of fun.

>>52863171
>>52863112

Apologies, it wasn't the Marvel comics, but instead the old Goodman/Williamson comic strips published in the newspapers in the early 80s.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Return_of_Ben_Kenobi

>>52862334
>>52862544
You could flip it around and have Rebels actively trying to seize the technology to unleash genocide on the Empire themselves, and the players have to decide whose side to fight for.

>>52863296
Oh i do i have a rival rebel commander I was already planning on committing some form of war crimes here and there. I think the entrance was going to be the players were undercover at some imperial officer's gala or something, and then the radicals bomb it or something?

>>52863322
Was going to have him be a former Alderaanian, and loosely base him off of LT. ALDO Rain from inglorious basterds.

>>52863322
>>52863337
That sounds like a good setup. To me the best stories of getting Edge players involved with the GCW is to present a situation that shows both sides in a pretty equal light and letting the players choose, or choose neither and solo it. It's fine to have cartoonishly silly Imperials in an AoR Rebel campaign or vice versa in an Imperial campaign, but having one side be overwhelmingly the wrong choice is just poor storytelling in an EotE game, a system about fringers, moral grays, and darker sides of the galaxy.

In my humble opinion.

>>52863370
You're on to something, perhaps EotE could be used to show both sides of the war as absurdly as possible, in an overall attempt to highlight the ridiculousness of what's going on?

>>52863337
I could have him be a former member of saw Guerera's rebel cell, who left when he broke off, and was further radicalized after Jedha(death of his mentor), The destruction of his home planet( nothing to live for outside of revenge) How does this sound?

>>52863509
not as good as if he was just an Alderaanian. Maybe an Imperial junior officer who defected after Alderaan and got a sizeable promotion from the Alliance due to them being a little short on officers.

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Shilling one last time before bed since I posted in the last thread and managed to get a new sub for it. Seems like there's loads of new X-wing players in here lately.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNaoEYpKjpQ
>pic unrelated

>>52861099
Now, is this an actual Zeltron, or just a soft "yeah the species exists just not with all the baggage from the old EU" thingy?

Do they still have the psychic nymphomania aura, and a society that revolves entirely around fucking each other?

>>52863728
it's just a confirmation that they exist. Literally no lore on them is canon as of yet and they don't even have a homeworld.

>>52863753
>homeworld

Oddly enough, even though it may not "officially" exist in canon lore, it was stated last fall by Pablo that the galaxy map is essentially unchanged from Legends to canon, with the exception of the existence of Zenoma Sekot and the Vong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg29Sa6QFes

guy is annoying is but 99% right

>>52863753
Actually, a Zeltron did appear in A New Dawn.

>>52863858
>not knowing that /tg/ hates ER as much as RLM

>>52863858
>annoying
no
>99% right
100%

>>52863858

Can we not have this bullshit yet again

>>52863858
Obviously the movie is shit and there's a lot of reasons for it, but the question is it because of JJ (not like Lucas would have done a better job today either) or too many chefs in the kitchen? Is it because it's a long running franchise and therefore has to be rehashed over and over until it loses everything that made it good and is finally killed by hollywood?

>>52863074
>>52863113

I'm more of a "polluting the skies with smog from my secret munitions factory" kind of guy.

Fuck, forgot how heavy-handed the enviormental messages in Jedi Prince are.

>>52863858
This faggot isn't even a SWs fan. He didn't even know that STs weren't clones. TFA is still a shitty SWs movie though

http://www.starwars.com/news/star-wars-the-essential-guide-to-warfare-authors-cut-part-10-the-rise-of-the-empire

I haven't been able to find the essential guide to warfare in the tg or co stickies, is it any good? Apparently the art is pretty good. and the authors seem enthusiastic at least

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>>52864191
But Rodian Lives Matter!

>>52864751
That crazy 90's eco shit, there was no escaping it. But, it was a good period to buy chainsaws.

>>52864840
The art is pretty good.

The content is... iffy. It has a few good Clone Wars coverings, and also does pre-PT stuff alright. It's one of the few books to touch on that. What it covers post-Clone Wars isn't worth reading, and some of it borders on abysmal.

The author is enthusiastic, and while he's got similar political beliefs to Chuck Wendig, he's not nearly as forceful with them or as condescending of people who don't like his works. Be warned though, if you're expecting Space /k/ or actual battle, war, or tactical analysis, you won't find it. Despite the author's overview and claims, he isn't a military guy and really doesn't understand how any of it works, from an in or out of universe perspective both.

Still, the Clone Wars stuff is decent, and it covers some events and battles of the pre-Clone Wars era that nothing else has ever touched on, and does it pretty alright. Just don't bother reading past the Clone Wars parts.

>>52864840

It should be there, hungry ewok if it's down. It is a good read and does some hot things with messy storylines and references

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Question /tg/
Imperial-I or Imperial-II

I'm Imperial-I

>>52860009
Newfag to Star Wars lore (I didn't watch the OT till I was 20), what's the deal with this Trioculus guy?

>>52864811
You don't need to be a fan of something else to criticize a film.

>>52864992
Track down a copy of "The Glove of Darth Vader", should be easy to find for cheap since pretty much no one wants to keep their copy of it.

>>52863728

Well, it's a children's book so presumably she hasn't fucked anyone's brains out.

>>52864988
They're both stupidly fapworthy ships.

>>52864988

I'm Rebel scum Nebula-class Star Destroyer for me thanks

>>52860442
>waaaaa i hate when people post truth that hurts my feelings
Autism alert.

In a pretty distant past,
About 5 Yavin, BB
There was a Trooper named 15,
Not too different from you or me,
He worked at the Sith Abbatoir,
Just another face in white Armor,
He did a good job cleaning up the place,
But the Sith Lords didn't like him so they shot him into space!

"I'll send him cheesy holocrons,
The worst I can find!
(La la la)
He'll have to sit and watch them all,
And I'll monitor his mind!"
(La la la!)

Now keep in mind that 15 can't control when the holocrons begin or end!
He'll have to sit and watch them all with help of his old droid friends!

(Robot roll call)
Pain bot!
R1
K-72
10101010!!!

If you're wondering how he eats and breathes,
And other science facts,
Well he won't be doing so for very long,
You should really just relax!

For Mystery Star Wars Theater 3000!

>>52864927
thanks, found it!

>>52864903
Hmm gave it a quick look over, yeah its not perfect, definitely not /k/ enough, but it seems to be written ok even if he doesn't have a great understanding of what he's writing. To long to just read outright, but I guess its a good resource to have

>>52864677
Pretty much it's become like the Fast & the Furious. There will never be another good movie in either Star wars or F&F.

>>52865861
>Pretty much it's become like the Fast & the Furious. There will never be another good movie in either Star wars or F&F.
>Implying F&F was ever anything but Vin Diesel wanking himself fucking dry

>>52865861
>Pretty much it's become like the Fast & the Furious. There will never be another good movie in either Star wars or F&F.
>Implying Star Wars was ever anything but George Lucas wanking himself fucking dry

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>>52865906
>Implying F&F was ever anything but Vin Diesel wanking himself fucking dry

Admit it, anon. You'd do the same. Hell, you'd do the same with Star Wars given half the chance, creative control, and a huge budget. You'd want so hard your dick would look like a candy cane. You'd want so hard you'd need to eat more bananas than king kong. You'd wank so hard you'd look like a fiddler crab.

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>>52865432
you had me at the first line

I will now commence throwing credits at you until you decide to make it. Make it damn you!

Local gaming store is running a x-wing event where we can only use "unique pilots and upgrades". As a rookie I get unique pilots but unique upgrades seems really restrictive. Be awsome to see what you guys might think to run.

>>52866055
Expect to see Lone Wolf fucking everywhere?

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Nothing beats the feeling of listening to A New Hope's soundtrack and realizing that Burning Homestead has the best musical cues in the whole damn movie.

>tfw the buzz gets ruined by scrolling the page down to an infinite wall of "OMG *THAT* REY SCENE, AMIRITE DUDES?!? I LUV REY ^_^"
When the fuck did TFA even sample it, someone tell me so I can be irrationally angry about it

>>52866055
Well turret and munitions carriers are right out, you might see a lot of T-70s since there's a lot of unique Astros and basic TIE fighters and interceptors since there's enough named ones and they don't particularly need upgrades anyway, and big ships with crew slots like the Falcon will probably play prominently. The typical Rey and Poe list probably wouldn't be too bad. I also thought ARCs might be cool but since the ARC title isn't unique they'd actually be pretty shit.

Scum will probably be best off since they have so many good unique crew though losing mindlink, contracted scout and cannons might be a significant blow.

>hired guns don't get ranged heavy as career
>none of the bounty hunter specs get cool

Colour me triggered.

>>52866868

Any only cyberdoc gets Eye for Detail, which anyone doing item crafting wants. Screw taking 4 hours off the build, give me the better item.

Related note, do y'all allow characters assisting a check to apply their talents to it? Or would that get ultra-cheddar?

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>>52860390
Ugors

>>52866955
>Any only cyberdoc gets Eye for Detail
Eh? Cyber Tech & Droid Tech both get it.

>>52866955
I think it really depends check to check and talent to talent. E.g.., if it wouldn't make any sense for the talent to work.

>>52860975
The political shitposting is mostly 'Was the Empire actually good guys?' tbqh.
>>52863810
There are quite a few changes. Rodia is positioned in the Outer Rim instead of Mid Rim, Scipio is Outer Rim instead of Core Worlds and presumably the replacement for Muunilinst. Bastion's unlikely to exist, at least not as it did under Legends because it's the codename for an Imperial backup hidden capital. The planet they 'made Bastion' probably exists but isn't relevant without it being Imperial capital.

>>52867225

Oh hey. sweet. Savant crafter extraordinaire, coming up!.

>>52866055
VCX-100: · "Chopper" (37)
· "Zeb" Orrelios (1)
· Hera Syndulla (1)
VCX-100: · Kanan Jarrus (38)
· Rey (2)
· Jyn Erso (2)
TIE Fighter: · Captain Rex (14)
· Sabine's Masterpiece (1)
· Cassian Andor (2)
-- TOTAL ------- 98/100p. --

We must potato at a higher velocity

>>52867491
>mostly the Empire guys

It's pretty evenly balanced. It usually starts with an Empire guy, then gets rapidly escalated by anti Empire guys, though it's happened a few times the other way around. Still, singling out one group is no good. No one should be political shitposting.

Hell, even the Empire Goodguy discussions could go somewhere if they didn't lead to a flame war between both ends of the /pol/itical spectrum every single time desu

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>>52860401
>>52860975
No Trioculus?

>>52868602
Look at the middle, anon.

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>>52860803
I hate, hate, hate this design for Gank. It doesn't look appropriate for Star Wars at all, it's too edgy and scifi.

They should look like this, just as god intended.

>>52864191
Only retarded little underage b&s hate RLM.

>>52868586
SW Political debates are fine and on-topic for me. The problem is when they bring in real world issues into it

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>>52868676
Well it's a good thing you and your shit taste isn't in control of the artwork for FFG. Nobody likes that shitty pitdroid/dalek reject design.

>>52869542
Why do you like this edgy garbage anon? They look like they belong in Mass Effect, not Star Wars.

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>>52869592
I am old enough to know that edgy is meaningless buzzword used by redditors and children to express distate at something.

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>>52869631
Could your head be lodged further up your own ass? Jesus.

>>52863858
Dude can't even pronounce verisimilitude.

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>>52869631
>I am old enough to know that edgy is meaningless buzzword used by redditors and children to express distate at something.
>express distate
>distate

Also, "edgy" means "provocative or avant-garde," and here is used to denote that your dark gloomy killer assassin coolguy Deathstroke wannabe-ass autistic preferences are invalidated, precisely because you think skulls are "badass" and that the "badass" merc guys HAVE to wear angular, generic red and black body suits with generic emotionless facemasks.

I bet you un-ironically play Reaper in Overwatch, you faggot.

>>52868676
I'm fine with both personally, >>52869542 looks Star Warsy enough but I do agree that >>52869631 and >>52860803 look pretty generic.

>>52869658
>>52870100
Why are you so ass devastated by another anon's opinion. The only edgy thing I see here is you faggots.

>>52860803
>>52869542
>>52869631
This guy probubly hates Rathtars

>>52870209
I honestly forgot that they were a thing, Bor Gullet is better.

>>52863858
A series of shallow critiques, to be honest. Guy should be embarrassed to put his name to it, and anyone who likes it should be embarrassed to admit it.

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>>52870209
Yeah I do actually. Not only was tfa shit. They had shit creatures. Prequel and OT creatures were a million times better than that silly garbage.

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>>52870181
The dude straight up said that "edgy" has no meaning. That's an undefensible position.

Anon probably thinks shit gets cooler the more red lightsabers and black armor you stick on it. Oh, and make sure the character has some sort of unique gimmick, like they hold the lightsaber backwards or something.

Pic related: edgy shit taste.

>>52870268
Fuck off with your strawmans. All I said is that I like FFGs Banks. You are the one literally foaming at the mouth because somebody doesn't like your shitty dalek rejects.

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>>52870308
>>I am old enough to know that edgy is meaningless buzzword used by redditors and children to express distate at something.

>>52870308
>>Fuck off
>>ll I said is that I like FFGs Banks

Kek.

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>>52866267
It's how music works in this series. Leitmotifs over leitmotifs. We don't know the full picture yet. I mean, if you tracked when Vader's theme turns up in ESB, or the Emperor's theme in RoTJ, without having seen the movies first, you'd get hints as to what was about to happen.

I mean, there's so many "stolen" cues from other bits of music that it gets a little ridiculous.

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Here you go, /swg/. Have a photo of Tarkin smiling.

52870339
You don't deserve any more (you)s from me.

>>52870535
Hey look, a tarkin!

In speaking of our glorious imperial navy /swg/. What is your favorite imperial non star Destroyer?

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>>52870248
>>52863858
Just proclaiming an extreme edge of the negativity bias
Basically, by making negative comments they try to appear more salient than they would otherwise by positive criticism, then mix it in with some more 'attention magnet' behaviour that suggests that they're fixated on the idea that bad news will get noticed more readily by people. Pretty standard strategy used by most of the media outlets to sell and shill their tabloid news- course the risk of that by bringing it down on themselves is that they're only going to draw in more negativity from others which just reinforces their narcissism, just as the extreme positive bias would.

If you're still stuck in the negativity motivation to form opinions by adulthood, you need to unfuck yourselves quick smart.

>>52870147
Kind of disappointed with the Gank as a player species, they've really had no background work on their society, what they do, where they come from, their motivations and why they do the whole prestige body modification thing.
Having everything 'super mysterious' is actually unacceptably shallow for a character to have.

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>>52870847
Does the Immobilizer count?

>>52870848
I agree with the other guy on the pictures, but everything you just said about the Gank is part of why I reconsidered playing one in an upcoming game.

Yesterday I ran the FFG system EotE for the first time and all my players were 4 first time table top players including one normie girl.

It was a BLAST! I suspect I did some stuff wrong as it was my first time running this system and using this dice but it was such a fun game. At the end they were practically begging to play more and pull an all-nighter!

Which adventure would you guys suggest to follow the beginner's game?

>>52871113
I recommend nice blog asshole!

>>52871247
What.

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>>52870848
As it stands currently Ganks are just assassin droids that are actually people.
>>52870847
Loronar Strike Cruisers
>>52871113
Play WEG D6. Memes aside, I would recommend putting a little something together yourself to get some practice, there are only so many adventures and eventually you'll run out.

>>52871280
ignore the retard

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>>52871113
Don't listen to this guy>>52871305. D6 is old and busted and if you had fun with eote you should continue with Long Arm of the Hutt

>>52868676
Some of the Ganks had more human faces than that.

It completely comes down to the cybernetics chosen.

>>52871404
I'm a huge D6 fan, but this guy is right - if you're enjoying EotE, keep at it.

That said, D6 is old and people have decades of experience with it, but it's definitely not busted unless you're a shit GM.

Pablo's twitter has gone insane with some dumb face app on SW characters.

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>>52871111
Yeah they do need some more development as >>52871305, said assassin bots.Not that assassin bots are bad as a PC, droids have their own circumstances which makes them interesting
Just thinking of other heavily cybernetic fictional critters, Daleks, Cylons, Cybermen and Borg being the most obvious. They have a history and motivations for doing what they do, but we basically have nothing from the poor old Gank.

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my boyfriend is space hitler

>>52871864
I like his sideburns, desu.

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>>52871920
Did someone say sideburns?

>>52871684
>twitter

Well there's your problem right there

>>52871684
Is that the genderswap photo app that's been making the rounds on other boards lately?

>>52872125
Yes.

>>52871684
He also posted Krull memes.

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>>52872248
It's only a matter of time until someone creates R63oculus.

A group of us want to get into both X-Wing and Armada, and what I want to ask is which one would it be better to get into first? We will get the other at a later time, I just want to know which one is more beginner friendly and to an extent also fun and a lesser extend to that, cheaper.
I'm speaking for like at least 6 of us

>>52872532
X-wing is definitely significantly cheaper and more beginner friendly, starter set for X-wing is like 40 with new ships starting at 15 and Armada starts at 100 with extra ships all being 20+.

>>52872532
X-wing is easier to pick up, more fun In My Opinion, and if you're smart it's cheaper (a full squadron including the core set shouldn't cost more than 105 USD).
I've got a podcast series mostly aimed at helping people into X-wing, it should be useful in determining what ships to buy to maximize your play value and minimize damage to your wallet. >>52863697

>>52872125
I kinda want to use it just to see how badly my facial hair fucks it up

>>52872606
>>52872611
Looking at 'em on amazon, seeing the core armada set for 78 while the xwing core for awakening is 27 and the other core for 38 though I have no idea what's the difference that makes one 10 dollars more expensive than the other

>>52872728
Core I for X-wing is generally better for a lot of people. It's got a more forgiving damage deck and Biggs is a more meta pilot than anything in Core II.

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>>52872728
The OT core gets you a different damage deck, Luke, Biggs, R2-D2, and best girl.

>>52872886
>best girl
Neither the K-wing or Sabine is in the core set, anon.

>>52872826
>>52872886
So I'll be paying 10 dollars more for characters I actually like on top of being good? That's good enough for me and will keep this in mind when the gang and I settle on which we'll be snagging first.

>>52872967
It is worth noting that the Original damage deck is not used in tournament ment play any more.

>>52872967
If you get Core I, you've got some flexibility with your next purchases. Heroes of the Resistance and the K-wing expansion are a good call and pair nicely with Core I.

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>>52873020
And of course, if you're flying T-65s, the X-wing booster pack is also a must-buy. Is it an optimal choice for tourneys? Hell no, it isn't. Does it get you Wedge? Hell yes, it does.

>>52873015
Is that true? I thought you had your choice of damage decks when building your list?

>>52873052

You do, but the newer damage deck is better - for you. Some of the first gen crits are fucking terrible (for you).

>>52873100
Some of the pilot crits are bad, but otherwise, I prefer the older deck.

>>52871758
Are you Anzac marching tomorrow with your chicken strangler friends or will we see you soon up this way?

>>52872532
X-Wing is cheaper and easier to pick up, has a much larger player base, plays quicker, and just has more stuff to play with. Not to dump on Armada, mind you, it's just a cool game I haven't had a chance to get too invested in.

>>52872728
Old vs new cores is different ships and pilots (OT X-Wings and TIEs vs TFA X-Wings and TIEs) and a different damage deck (new one is less swingy, both are tourney legal). As for the price difference, they have the same MRSP so it must be an Amazon/availability thing.

If you have any other questions just ask.

>>52872532
What other wargames do you guys play?

If you've ever played 40k, Infinity, Warmachine, or any other tabletop warfare Armada with be a breeze to learn and X-wing will seem painfully simple (not a bad thing). The setup time for Armada will be faster than the Warhams, but slower than X-wing. The amount of people that play either game is more or less irrelevant with 6 of you.

Overall, I prefer Armada because I like that scale more. I play with the wife, so I'm never hard up for a game. It depends on what you guys want, though.

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>>52871983
Not ginger, not interested.

>>52874099
To add to this, costwise both Armada and X-wing are cheap compared to other tabletop games. X-Wing is holy fucking shit cheap, while Armada is merely dirt cheap. It's not really a significant different if you're used to paying 40 bucks for a box of 20 plastic unpainted dudes, though.

>>52862873
>The empire IS a cartoon villain organization

They're a White Supremacist organization, not just cartoon villains.

>>52874099
We play whatever we get our hands on and we slowly started drifting away from vidya games though we sometimes team up in shooters still and we started playing board games once again. We played a lot of Kill Team and Mordheim and Necromunda along with other non figure board games as well like Catan and Monopoly. We're all fans of Star Wars though funny enough we never played any Star Wars related tabletop and we were talking about getting into Armada and Xwing but couldn't decide which one to get into first. So as you can see when it comes to games using figures, we've only played the GW stuff so far so Xwing and Armada will seem like a fun new thing we'll learn to play.
Unrelated to those games I myself have been looking at Infinity a lot and I've also been eyeing Frostgrave a bit too.

>>52874409
They are a] human supremacist organization drawing on White Supremacist traditions from Nazi Germany.

>>52863858
A series of on point critiques, to be honest. I hate the editing in his videos but at least someone's saying what we're all thinking.

>>52874445

Uhh, that guy explicitly said they were a White Supremacist organization, not human supremacist.

>>52874447

The whole 'what we're all thinking' meme really needs to stop.
Because it doesnt really apply.

What you mean is 'someone is saying what Im thinking and I like seeing it' and being validated.

Assuming that they got the Legends accelerated aging fix, just how long do you think the last of them might hold out in imperial or maybe NR service?

>>52874481

Yeah, pretty sure he had to retract it later.

Not that anybody posting the quote would tell you that, that might make you less mad.

>>52874485
>everything is a meme meme

kek

>>52874488
Apparently I somehow managed to leave out the fucking first sentence
" I have a question about clone troopers"
Durr

>>52874541

>i dont like the truth being pointed out to me so ill call it a meme

>>52874447
>I hate the editing
This, nobody likes fast cuts to that degree. I happen to actually have an attention span more than 30 seconds.

Too bad, because he's pretty much right.

>>52874488
>>52874552

Considering some of them are alive and well by Rebels - and still combat effective, in fact - it seems reasonable that there'd be some who made it through into Imperial service for sure.

The brainchip thing probably means that there arent many who decided to leave the Empire's service and join the Rebellion and/or New Republic, but age-wise there's not much to stop them.

Especially now that the Empire collapses so fast in new canon.

>>52874481
>>52874507
He said White (Human) supremecist.

Given twitter wordcounts it was pretty clear that he meant it was in-universe a Human Supremacist organization with a real-world basis from a White supremacist totalitarian state.

Also Disney forced a retraction yes.

Can we PLEASE move the fuck on? "Aliens/Fantasy races as a stand-in for brown people" is fucking fiction 101.

>>52871247
Fuck off faggot, what was the point of that comment.

The guy wanted to share his tabletop experience which is literally what this thread is for.

>>52874447

agreed

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>>52864988
Gladiator

>>52864988
I lean towards Imp2, I just love the octo barrels.
>>52874770
Also good, as are Vic1s and Vic2s.

>>52874485

>i dont like the truth being pointed out to me so ill call it a meme

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>>52872919
Best Girl.

>>52874488
>>52874552
In legends, I'd imagine there'd still have been a reasonable number still in service by the end of the GCW in 19 ABY, and a tiny handful still around as late as the 30s and possibly 40s
In nucanon they'd all be booted when the armies dissolve, so no nearly as long

>>52874894

>a video which consists entirely of dropping the fact that JJ abrams is jewish every few seconds, getting confused because of not knowing basic shit about the setting, getting upset about a female character being overpowered (in fucking Star Wars, where a moisture farmer from a desert planet is a crack shot with a blaster and can fly X-Wings better than anyone in the galaxy) and getting upset that theres a black man as a stormtrooper.
>the truth

Sure, he has a couple of points buried in there, like the way the film's invalidated some of what the original trilogy accomplished with the First Order coming back, NJO failing again, and Han and Leia splitting.
But he doesnt actually go into any of that, or any of the story given for it. He just drops it quickly and then gets yappy about Rey being a mary sue.

>>52873649
Chumbalaya, when will the next episode of kessel run be out?

>>52875013
It's almost as though its not a legit viewing of the film because its so wrapped up in its author's own ideas concerning the conditions of the film's creation that it never bothered to look more than skin deep at a complete movie.

>>52874655
But human and white have the same number of characters.
It's 5, I've counted. Twice.


Please don't take this reply too seriously. I'm just having a bit of fun at your expense, and you do seem a little on edge/

>>52875125

Crazy, huh?

>>52875013
>invalidated some of what the original trilogy
>yappy about Rey being a mary sue

this is the crux of his criticism
the film repeats the original story but worse, invalidates it at the same time, the acting is worse, the story is unoriginal, most of the characters are shit, the main character is a boring mary sue, and people who like it have shit taste

sounds like the truth to me

>>52875156
Ehh, its not so crazy when you consider that a whole boatload of people will listen to whatever half-assed theorizing that you've got provided that there's a structure and it satisfies them.

Anyhow, I'm looking to dm an EotE campaign soon and I wanted to know which splats are most recommended for fluff?

>>52875226
You forgot that 90% of the movie is just random chance and coincidence.

There are plotholes you could fly a 787 through.

But don't bother replying to him, he hasn't actually pointed out a single point of the video that is false.

>>52875226

Except he doesnt actually say that.
He says JEW JEW, LMAO THE DIVERSITY HIRE BLEW UP OUR SHIT, WOMEN IN AMERICA ARE MORE LIKELY TO MURDER THEIR CHILDREN.

He doesnt actually spend his time making good criticisms. He spends his time being a fucking retard, and then drops in some vague points which get buried under more retard.
Add to that, he doesnt even fucking know anything about the setting but doesnt bother even checking for five seconds to see.

>>52875226
I was agreeing with him until I saw his rogue one video

>>52875226

Friendly reminder that the proper way to tell who is or is not a Mary Sue is by how loved or liked they are by everyone they meet.

The original Mary Sue, the character that gave it the name Mary Sue, was a medic of great yet singular skill in a Star Trek fan-fiction. She wasn't great at everything, but she was still important and had a clear role.

The thing that made her a Mary Sue was that everyone loved her. Everyone. The only people that did not like Mary Sue were either villains or people who were hated by her fans because they don't like Mary Sue. That is what the trope is and should be viewed through the lens of; is Rey a character whom everyone loves, desires or likes, and the only people who don't like her are universally despised assholes or villains?

>>52874655

Did Disney force it because they believed his comment was racist and bigoted, or because they knew saying something that blatantly would lose sales?

Leia hugging Rey instead of Chewbacca after Han's death is the worst thing in TFA.

>>52875374
Well, the Resistance are generally fairly nice, so they seem likely to just hate on someone they just met, and Poe was somewhat wary of her originally


>>52875443
That was strange, though maybe she knows Chewie well enough to realize he doesn't like hugs or wants to be alone with his grief? It should have at least been a group hug in my opinion.

>>52875374
She qualifies for that as well. Pretty sure there isn't a single person in the film who Rey met who had an interaction with her that showed clear dislike or hatred that wasn't supposed to be some sort of villain or bad guy.

>>52875498

Other people at the shithouse town on Jakku were generally dismissive of her - no one stepped up to help when she was attacked, as well.

>>52875479
>>52875498
I vaguely recall Poe being somewhat wary of her at first? And Han was cranky about her having the Falcon till she gave him a reasonable explanation.

>>52875498

Compare this to Luke, who was only really friends with the X-Wing pilots (who he knew on Tattooine) and Ben (who was his mentor and knew him since birth.)

Han didn't like him, Leia was slightly annoyed by him, and Chewie just sorta saw him as a client. C-3PO was friendly because that's just how he is, and R2-D2 took a liking to him by the end.

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>>52870848
Actually, it's the onset of adulthood that enforces negativity and criticism in our minds. It leads to that old "Who pumps the Batmobile's tires?" argument. Adults become simultaneously more logical but also more cynical, as each of us slowly realizes how sucky life and especially other humans can be, and we're forced to put up with it, and so we exchange the rose-tinted glasses of childhood for the shit-tinted broken glasses of adulthood.. There is nothing wrong with negativity, because it's natural. The overwhelming majority of people, at least in the States, age 21 and over are far more pessimistic and negative in truth than those 21 and under.

Negativity also does not mean one is right, but it doesn't mean one is right. Admittedly, I'm biased in favor of E;R. I share his political views, I despised TFA, I despised RO slightly less, and when I look at NuStar Wars all I see is a cash cow being milked dry by people who could care less about the fans or fandom. Where I disagree with him is I'm still passionate about Star Wars. I grew up with it, I love it, I probably always will, but what I'll love is the Star Wars I used to know.

The Star Wars of 2015 onward is not the Star Wars that I used to know.

What I don't approve of is the idea that negativity must be eradicated, that some people who do like the new movies and new canon think that critics of them are only criticizing it to deliberately ruin the experience for everyone else. That was one of the main criticisms directed to the Plinkett reviews, but it's utterly false.

Sure, sometimes criticism is used to try to bring company to misery, but not always. You don't have to be overwhelmingly positive of things to participate in discussions about said things.

>>52868742
That's where it gets killed by both sides. Nobody can say their opinion without bringing in politics to the table.

>>52875424
More like it was blatantly inaccurate, at least for nucanon. The old empire was definitely sexist but I don't think it was ever racist. Now it's not sexist or racist but is still definitely xenophobic/human centric.

One guy on Twitter gets riled up and now everyone is all pissed about culture wars. Twitter is dumb for a ton of reasons but from a specifically Star Wars angle it makes "canon" about rule by decree instead of analysing primary sources

>>52875443
That was queer, TFA has a problem of good parts not running together to create an perfect half hour anywhere, there are a number of awkward moments that JJ manages to make them out of what should be high notes. The one that sticks in my head is the final scene of the film Rey holds out the sabre Luke looks at her and we linger on this so long you can see poor Daisy Ridley's arm is starting to hurt and it just baffled me that it had made it into the final cut.

But hay there's some choppy shit ANH as well, it's not a deal-breaker but it is disappointing to have a lot of these moments near the end of the film rather than the beginning or the middle.

>>52875013
>makes jokes about JewJew
Not an issue.
>getting confused of not knowing basic shit
Makes one single slip-up about Stormtroopers being Clones and later corrects himself in the Rogue Wan review. Also half right since a chunk of the first Stormtroopers were carryover Clones.
>getting upset about a female character being overpowered
Yeah, which is an incredibly valid criticism.
>getting upset that a black man is a stormtrooper
*Getting upset that Disney and their Gem brigade threw in a token minority and that Boyega and the crew went on and on about how diverse it.
>Rey being a mary sue
She was, even more than Luke. Luke didn't kick Vader's ass in their first fight and blow up a massive superstation without using the Force on his own with no help while flying the Falcon away better than Han could.
>>52875125
>>52875156
>>52875358
It's almost as thought you're butthurt that someone tore a new asshole into a movie you liked.

>>52875479
>>52876102
Actually Jar Jar Abraham admitted he screwed that scene up and would have reshot the scene had he cared more.

>>52876006
Not liking something is totally fine, and I'm sure people who hated the prequels feel just as alienated as you do now. The point isn't that people can't have or shouldn't be able to share opinions, it's that /swg/ isn't a great format for it. It's a place for talking about games, RPGs, lore, and occasionally Metal Gear/Ace Combat/Wing Commander. The problem with talking about TFA or the movies in general is that these topics are for whatever reason cough cough /pol/ cough so inflammatory it becomes the only topic. We've had this shouting match 1000 times and the issue will never be solved. You seem like a decent guy/girl/Attack helicopter and I'm sure that you are capable of reasoned debate on the subject, but anon in general is not, and that's why /tv/ and /co/ exist, so /tg/'a general can be good

>>52876064

It was never sexist or racist, and it doesn't matter if it was anyway. If you're a human being, which we all are, you should be behind human centricism.

As for the Tweet, it was not only false, but blatantly racist, and one of several blatantly racist things to come out of the mouths of the folks working on the new films, like JJ talking about how "fucking white" the casting room is and how he hated it.

>>52876166
>*Getting upset that Disney and their Gem brigade threw in a token minority and that Boyega and the crew went on and on about how diverse it.

How does this affect the quality of the movie itself? Boyega did a great job acting, whether or not he's black is neither here nor there in terms of film quality.

>>52876203
I didn't like the movie much either but complaining about Finn being black is beyond retarded and reeks of /pol/

>>52876203
Stop being a Disney shill. If you're definition of a "great job" is chimping around and yelling, I'm sure you love every shitty movie that gets pumped out.

>>52876166
Meh, guy on youtube being bad at creating a review of a film really doesn't ruffle my feathers bud.

>>52876203
>Boyega did a great job acting

Not objectively, just relatively.
Only in comparison to the everyone who wasn't Poe. That's a very low bar of achievement.

>>52876201
>Not sexist

Definitely not true, at least in the EU. Daala had a really hard time as a woman making it up the chain of command, and pretty much could only get authority because of her relationship with Tarkin

As for the human centric thing, if you don't want aliens to be good guys maybe Star Wars isn't for you

>>52876253
Actually he did do a good job. Not even er complained about boyega's acting.

>>52876201

Star Wars was and in some ways is still a franchise of white guys, Disney wants to fix that because the world isn't exactly going to be white for much longer.

I mean, can you blame them for trying to lay the groundwork for movies that would appeal to a future for the West that isn't and will never be again, homogenous or white?

>>52876203
Boyega did a decent job, but JJ or whoever else told him to hide his accent fucked up bigtime.

>>52876006
I don't know I feel like I've become a lot more positive as I've entered my 20's. I'm taking control of my life, I've come to accept things in a way the does not require me to be miserable.

>Not an Issue
No but it is distracting and it does call into question the man's motives
>getting upset about a female character being overpowered
I've never really got this one I have to say, almost everything had some groundwork laid out in the scenes. You can argue the affection is perhaps unwarranted but everyone got with everyone in TFA, mind tricking Daniel Craig I guess but having the Force with you is something Star Wars has played very fast and loose with.

I'll just never understand why TFA puts people into epileptic rage also E;R never puts anything on his channel he doesn't intend to destroy. I consider him more an entertainer than a critic.

>>52876284

I unironically believe the Empire was the real hero of the story. I don't want to debate it. I don't want to bring politics in. I don't want to start a war. I am merely stating my opinion and leaving it at that.

>>52876270

No, it was a pretty decent review, at least in my opinion.

>>52876318

I could've sworn English accents were synonymous with Coruscant, which is why there's such a glut of Imperials with accents?

>>52876240
I entirely agree with you. The movie was underwhelming to say the least, but the race of the actors had nothing to do with it.

>>52876253
>unironically using the word chimping
Finn's character is animated and over the top, a space-janitor who's in way over his head. Boyega does a good job of conveying that.

If you take umbrage with the atmosphere *around* the movie being too preachy about diversity that's really your prerogative, but to say it affects the quality of the movie itself is like saying a steak dinner is bad because the table its served on isn't to your liking.

But keep shrieking about there being racial diversity in a sci-fi movie, I'm sure you'll have a very happy life.

>>52876290
To be fair, the United States has had a lot fo non-white people in it for a long time. It only makes sense to try to appeal to everyone, not just one racial demographic.

>>52876318
I agree with this.

>>52876253
>chimping around and yelling
Who could be behind this post?

>>52876277
>objectively good anything

Not sure you know what objectively means

>>52876270
The review was shitty in terms of editing, and odd in terms of emphasis, but it was actually great in covering all the topics and garnering attention.

>>52876354
I think it's english accents = Core Worlds

>>52876346
>I don't want to debate it

Funny, because you keep bringing it up

>>52876318
Since the First Order are Imperial fanboys, I would have figured English accents would have been fine for him to have.

>>52876375
Laurence Olivier for example, is an OBJECTIVELY good actor. Deal with it.

>>52876354
Most of the inner sphere bar Coruscant has an posh English Accent, as do many of the "Coreaboo" works like Eriadu or Dooku's homeworld.

>>52876386
Though plenty of the people in the Unknown Regions First Order kept their accent too.

>>52876400
Exactly, I figured they'd try to drill that into their Jannisary slave soldiers as a way to make them all speak as one and fight as one.

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>>52876386
With the exception of glorious Corellia.

>>52876166

>one slip up
How about the fact that the Resistance isnt the armed branch of the NR at all, and are an independant thing set up to resist the First Order.

>rey being possibly overpowered is valid criticism
Rey can fire a blaster accurately.
Luke can hit a door switch across a Hangar bay. He's a fucking farmer, whilst she's a scavenger who we've seen has to fight sometimes.
Rey can fly a ship well, and so can Luke.
Luke had previous experience on T-16s, and Rey had a military grade simulator.

>Luke didn't kick Vader's ass in their first fight and blow up a massive superstation without using the Force on his own with no help while flying the Falcon away better than Han could.
What are you even trying to say here.
Rey kicked Ren's ass, when he was woudned from a bowcaster shot to the fucking stomach. She's also been shown before that to be decent at melee combat, which (despite ffg's system rules) could be at least somewhat extendable to using a saber. She had nothign to do with the destruction of Starkiller and was literally just *there at the time*,

>Getting upset that Disney and their Gem brigade threw in a token minority and that Boyega and the crew went on and on about how diverse it.
That's because, despite the fact that it isnt a big deal to you, it might be a big deal to black kids.
The protagonists of the original and prequel trilogies are all white. Im not saying thats a bad thing, before you light the beacons and cry about me being anti-white.
I have no fucking problem with it.
That said, why is it a problem to have a black character? Before, black kids had, Mace Windu and Lando. Now they have Finn too. That's nice.
As a kid I had characters to look up to and be inspired by in all my media, and that was nice, and I still do now. Why is another one for the niggers a problem?


As a final note though, I dont even like TFA all that much.
It was alright. Mostly notable for bringing X-Wings back.

>>52876403
He's not though. He's conventionally considered to be a good actor, and most everyone would agree. But those are subjective opinions. You can't measure with some tool how quality his acting is, or quantify it. Words mean things

>>52876428
>>52876436
FUCK Bar Corellia, Corellia is Scottish or AMERICAN.

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Reminder to report and ignore /pol/-posting.

this post courtesy of my boyfriend

>>52876439
I am black and I wholeheartedly believe that Finn was lame. I don't give a shit that he was black since his character wasn't very competent or compelling.

>>52876473
Corellia is space BritAmerica, a bunch of car loving ship modding archery liking independance obsessed arses who happen to be the coolest coreworlders in the galaxy.

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>>52876516
I found him fun, possessing of good comic timing and an endearing character. Not sold on his action chops however.

>>52876516
>I am black
So? Just because you have these feelings doesn't mean they aren't shared with the children they are meant to resonate with.

As a teacher, my black students (1-3 grade) felt awesome to have a Star Wars hero to look up to.

>>52876544
why is young Luke a lovable dork?

>>52876544
>this image I made factually proves my position!

You could easily make one of these going the other way.

>>52876583
Total waifu material.

>>52876539
>. implying anywhere in america outside of detroit actually likes cars

>>52876403

How does one assess inherent and objective goodness in a profession or art? Perhaps it is success, or praise, or influence, or durability? Perhaps some measure of all of these things?

I think Will Redfield's quote about Olivier sums it up best.

Ironically enough, Laurence Olivier is less gifted than Marlon Brando. He is even less gifted than Richard Burton, Paul Scofield, Ralph Richardson and John Gielgud. But he is still the definitive actor of the twentieth century. Why? Because he wanted to be. His achievements are due to dedication, scholarship, practice, determination and courage. He is the bravest actor of our time.

>>52876473
I really want to see non-standard Space Brits and Space Americans in Star Wars. The generic newscaster English accents get kind of bland. Where are the Midlands or Yorkie stormtroopers? Or the Yinzer rebel who carries an A280 in one hand and a Durasteelers terrible towel in the other?

>>52876570
Who gives a fuck?

They had Lando, and when I was a kid, I didn't care what race or dick or vagina a hero had. I liked them for the character.

Gems don't realize that only a small vocal majority of autists give any fucks about "diverse" racial representation.

>>52876544
There are reasons for this, it may have been better if they'd given her the jumper as originally planned (Hence the art of it inside her AT-AT house.) to show she was a pilot. Or at least they could have shown off the high flight ceiling on her Popsicle Speeder.

And if you pay attention she DOES do modwork on the falcon.


>>52876630
This is 4chan, you can call jews jews without memeing it up.

>>52876544
Oh sweet a meme image full of shit that is wrong.

>Knows one thing about the Millennium lol Millunniom Falcon that Han doesn't that happened to it after he lost it
>Not at all her first flight
>Points out life-threatening injury, dismisses out of hand
>What would a scavenger speak droid?

God these things are like speed dial for stupid.

>>52876612
>Never been to texas or florida

>>52876586
lol, go ahead and make one then

>>52876586
PLEASE do! I will eagerly be waiting for your picture

>>52876516

That's fair. He's not going to appeal to everyone.
I felt the same way about Padme in the prequels. Talk about wasted potential.
At the same time, my cousins love her for whatever reason.

I never particularly needed someone to be 'like me' to look up to them. Luke and Wedge were always my favourite characters in the original trilogy, regardless.
But these days, theres a lot more of a thing about being able to 'look like' your heroes instead of just liking them.


>>52876544
The only accurate parts are the bits about her use of the force, which did seem...well, forced.
Would've been easy to fix, too.

>>52876612
>Never been in the southwest or southern california

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>>52876166
>Gem brigade
>>52876630
>Gems

Whoever could be behind these posts?

>>52876676
>>texas
>> clyde getting a pick up truck because it makes him manly even though he never hauls anything and doesn't help his friends move
"liking Cars"
>>florida
>>pensioners in cadilics
"liking cars"

>>52876723
>>setting in traffic
"liking cars"

>>52876704
>I never particularly needed someone to be 'like me' to look up to them

Exactly. I'm a huge fan of the original conan and how he's portrayed by Arnold. He isn't anything like me physically, and that's ok.

I think the real point is, like anything else, people should chosen that are most qualified and most suit the context, whether that is a job, or a casting, or whatever. Not simply to achieve some sort of quota.

>>52876570
No offense but I have probably know and interacted with more black people in my life than you have. Anyone over the age of 10 views him as comic relief and anyone who liked the character feels cheated that he ended up not being the Jedi that will be trained by Luke and will instead be a shittier Han Solo type

>>52876612
Ehh, there's groups of car-minded folks in america at random intervals, they usually also happen to work on cars for a living.

>>52876665
They SHOULD have had a few wookiees wandering around Portion mcBlobfish's scavenger camp. Then again they didn't for Luke and Chewie.

>>52876744
The whole topic of what feels like this the last two fucking threads has been discussing his review unfortunately.
>>52876800
You've clearly never seen a SoCal beaner and his cars.

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>>52876800
>Never been to Bonneville Salt Flats

>>52875090
Last night.

http://theheroictwentyeights.com/kessel-run-episode-liv-the-absolute-greatest-system-champ/

Enjoy a 2 hour circle jerk about how awesome I am. I know I did.

>>52876807
>anyone who liked the character feels cheated that he ended up not being the Jedi that will be trained by Luke and will instead be a shittier Han Solo type
This is how all of my black friends feel, but their kids seem to really like him.

>>52876801
>I think the real point is, like anything else, people should chosen that are most qualified and most suit the context, whether that is a job, or a casting, or whatever. Not simply to achieve some sort of quota.

I think the line in this thread less exists between people agreeing or disagreeing with this statement but more on the matter of how strongly they feel about it and how deep an effect they believe it has had on the films' quality.

>>52876835
Those aren't fucking cars, who gives a shit

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>>52876859
>Not cars

How about them star wars tabletop games?

I like them.

>>52876807
But Luke only reinforces that that the weight of prophesy and the Force brings only suffering Rey's getting the Skywalker Handshake or maybe they'll do a leg this time to spice things up but it's coming!

>>52876859
>he doesn't like the wheeled jet tube

>>52876892
Which one do you play?

Anyone have any interesting tid-bits from their last session?

>>52876744
Hopefully E;R. He's like if Plinkett had better points and wasn't politically cucked.

>>52876927
Hi E;R, don't you have anything other to do? You should have done this in mid December so you could build hype for when you tell us why TLJ is complicit in the genocide of the White Race, traffic would have been way better.

>>52876921
Currently GMing Edge, it's pretty fun and I enjoy how fast paced it is.

>Anyone have any interesting tid-bits from their last session?
My players have been antagonistic towards their patron, a hutt from the get go, even though he's been largely chummy with them. I wonder if this is because they assume I'm going to betray them at some point?

>>52877032
>I wonder if this is because they assume I'm going to betray them at some point?
Probably. Sudden-yet-inevitable-betrayal by a reliable or friendly-seeming contact/patron is one of the most overused "plot twists" in all of tabletop gaming, and players tend to be very strongly once bitten twice shy about that sort of thing

>>52876807
>>52876839
This I was excited for Finn until I realized he was just going to be Rey's plucky comic relief sidekick

>>52877125
>>52877032

Even if it wasnt a common thing, I mean, it's a Hutt.

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>>52877179
That's racist

>>52870509
Look at all those white people. JJ must have screamed out loud when he saw this.

>>52870268
You leave Starkiller and his clones out of this.

>>52876290
That's true. We'll see you on Mars whenever you figure out how to get off a dead planet, non-whites.

>>52876927
bahahahaha

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>>52877710
Not so fast, anon.

>>52877769
>implying
The last guy who persistently tried to make an African union was Gaddafi. Trust me, you don't want to know the exact details of his final moments.

>>52877769
sorry m8. elon musk's strictly meritorious

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>>52876819
>You've clearly never seen a SoCal beaner and his cars.
Or a SoCal upper middle-ish class baby boomer.

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>>52875362
His criticisms of TFA are on the right aspects but hyperfocus on the wrong reasons that they make the movie suck (e.g. it's not the mere precense of WOMENS and THE BLACKS, it's the shitty cliches that surround them and everyone else in the movie).

His criticisms of Rogue One are "lmao didn't watch" and "FEMINIST TWEETS FEMINIST TWEEEEETS REEEEEEEEEE"

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>>52873258
No, went to the dawn service and now running on about 4hrs sleep. Did catch up with a few from others I'd served with, but rather spend the day with the wife and kidlet this year.
Might try to get up this weekend and see if we can get some games on.

>>52876006
>You don't have to be overwhelmingly positive of things to participate in discussions about said things.
More the complete lack of any objectivity to even see the positives those movies produce and the fact films are being made again, I don't always agree with their content or think they're the best ever. But they're not always just all terrible, all of the time either. That kind of pointless drum bashing and sprays for attention can stay on youtube, we discuss games here. Likewise my own personal politics and beliefs really have nothing to do with any discussions here, so out of the mutual respect to the small, friendly community here, I keep them to myself because they're only my business and no one else's.
(No one bashes me over the head with their opinions, I don't do it to them)

>>52879181
I was sad he didn't bring an E-11 to that episode.

How do you like your Jedi in your FFG games?
>All dead except Yoda and Luke?
>Actually force users from other traditions?
>Exiles surviving by laying low?
>Young punks picking through the ruins of the old order and trying to figure out this force thing?

>>52881735
For our game, the resident force sensitves are split between wanting to learn the old ways and master the force from an old holocron, and the other just wants to study ruins (also an Acheologist) and bang hot aliens.