Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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>people getting butthurt prematurely edition

>>52850093
What is a 40kg without butt hurtness? Really? it's the fuel of this thread nowadays

2nd for tallmarines

>>52850093
A true /tg/ past time

Wasn't there supposed to be a livestream or Q&A, or am I just imagining stuff?

Should I wait to start BT to see if tallmarines are real

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Reminder that GW officially love cuckolding.

>>52850134
Up to you, I would be waiting personally.

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>>52850130
Just a Q&A i think, pure meme fuel, nothing more.

>>52850137
They like Nick? Who is Nick?

>>52850142
It did tell us that the core rules will be free and that all current armies will have new rules released for them when 8th ed comes out.

>>52850134
BT are getting axed anon, they have been completely absorb by vainillas

My GW cart just got 50cent more expensive, is this the 8th edition?

>>52850149
Yeah, ask fantasy fags how that turned out to them.

>>52850163
It begins..

If you need to paste text over to make your point it's a poorly chosen image, also it's battered wife syndrome.

"The game should be easy to start"
Is GW retarded? Unless they drop the prices no one that wasn't already going to play will play

>>52850164
Doesn't change the fact that there was some actual info in the faq, whether or not you think it will end well is irrelevant.

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>DoW III has Carcharodons
new lore when?

>>52850145
Found a bunch of people in GW who're named Nick, take your pick.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/nick-ho-51b5b491/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickcristofoli/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/nick-kyme-05a62b4/

>>52850205
Fine Fucking detective work, Anon.

>>52850199
Oh god those shitty centurions.

Hey anons, would you mind rating my first list?

Dark Angels Lion's Blade 1500
Battle Demi-Company

Company Master, 90
+Artificer Armor, 20
+Stormshield, 15
+Relic Blade 25
+Jump Pack, 15
Total, 165

3xTactical Squad, 70
+5 Marines, 70
+Plasma Gun, 15
+Combi-plasma, 10
+Heavy Bolter, 10
Total, 175 (525)

Dedicated Transports
4xRhinos, 35
+Dozer Blade, 5
Total, 40 (160)

Devastators, 70
+4xPlasma Cannons, 60
+Combi-Plasma, 10
Total, 140

Assault Marines, 70
+5 Assault Marines, 70
+Jump Packs, 30
+2xFlamer, 10
+2xEviscerator, 50
+Veteran Sergeant, 10
+Power Sword, 15
+Combat Shield, 5
Total, 260

Inner-Circle
Interrogator Chaplain, 110
+Jump Pack, 15
+Mace of Redemption, 30
Total, 155

10th Company Support
Scout Squad, 55
+5 Sniper Rifles, 5
+Camo Cloaks, 10
Total, 70

Complete Total, 1475

What should I do with the remaining 25 points?

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>>52850163
And worst things are yet to come

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>>52850189
>someone bothered to write that down
>MFW
2edgy4me

Would a Tau army be good for a tank army? I like tanks, but I don't really want humans so Guard are out. I also remember that Pathfinders could mark targets for Tau big guns. Is that still a thing?

>>52850268
Refrain from asking game question, this edition is death and the next one is a mayor reboot, wait until then.

>>52850268
tau are mecha.

>>52850268
>doesn't like humans
What are you, boring?

But a Tau tank army is actually pretty good and I'm just happy that you haven't said anything about suits.

>>52850093
I'll tell you what I'm butthurt about, scale creep.

Models just keep betting bigger and bigger and more expensive. I remember when one large case could house an entire army, these days I need two.

I love my resin greater daemons, I was just missing a bloodthirster so I was pretty hyped for the plastic thirster. It's a good model don't get me wrong but I'm trying to find shelf space for my models and it's like
GUO, large as a tank, not too big.
KoS, large as a tank, not too big.
LoC, large as a tank, not too big.
OH MY GAH~, IDS GODZIRRA! If the others are the size of a house this guy is like the size of a skyscraper and he's got a price tag to match.

You feel me? Tanks and troops, not anime mecha and King Kong ok? Praise new Games Workshop™

>>52850070
How would you guys go about running a three way battle?

>>52850285

FOR. FUCK'S. SAKE.

>>52850287

Yeah, I know. I only had 3 battlesuits in my old Tau army though. That was when the Tau first came out though so there weren't a ton of options.

>>52850288

If I want humans I'll play something historical, honestly.

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>>52849685
>only 7 feet tall
How can the Gue'la ever hope to rule the Galaxy with midgets like that?

>>52850221
If you dont mind having a Chaplain instead of an Interrogator-Chaplain, you can turn this list into 2 battle companies, get free dedicated transports and better rules. Also the 160pts you'll keep from the rhinos can be used to buy and outfit the devs of the second company.

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>>52850310
>tau are 4 feet tall
Bruh

>>52850221
If you got rid of the artificer armour and combi plasma on the dev sargent that's enough points for a bare bones scout squad.

Otherwise just but meat shield marines for your devs.

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>>52850268
Devilfish and Hammerheads are both awesome. Hammerheads can fire either a S10 AP1 72" single shot, or a S6 AP4 72" large blast. Throw Smart Missile Systems on it instead of the gun drones (for free!) and rape light infantry in cover by combining the fire from your railgun blast with markerlights for Ignores Cover and as high a BS as you can get from the expended markerlights. The SMS can hit things out of line of sight, and is a 4-shot twin-linked S5 AP5 butthurt generator. Devilfish may bring this as well.

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>>52850346
Gue'la please...

>>52850388
Compare an Imperial Knight to that stupid chickenlegged weeb shit and try again.

>>52850118
>tacticals are now tall
>all other space marine units remain the same so now dreadnoughts and termies are small

>>52850093
/thread

>>52850330
I'm pretty sure having a second Battle company would make it go over 1500 though, and I'd only lose the free transports by not taking it, I think.

>>52850359
Yeah, that makes sense. I could add a couple more bodies for the Dev squad to protect them. Maybe a meltabomb on the assault sergeant.

Nervous about Deathguard now... Worried we're not going to get kits and just get shitty snapfit starter box sprus

>>52850429
They'll be snap fit anon, the only multipaet is going to be Mortarion, the rest are stuck with monopose and mix equipment

>>52850199
That dreadnought looks like it tripped

CHOOSE YOUR ALLEGIANCE

IMPERIUM
CHAOS
XENOS

Looking for advice on my Heralds of Ruin Kill Team list.

Chapter tactics is Carcharadon Astra

Leader
- Company Champion
- Power Sword
- Storm Shield
- Artificer Armour

Special
- 3 Sternguard Veterans

Core
- 6 Tactical Marines (w/ extra CCW)
- 1 Tactical Marine (Plasma Gun or Missile Launcher + extra CCW)

>>52850466
>tfw sushi, orks, tyranids, commies and tomb kangz are all allies now

>>52850428
>I'm pretty sure having a second Battle company would make it go over 1500 though, and I'd only lose the free transports by not taking it, I think.

You already have 30 tacticals (3 5man squads x2), 10 assault marines (2 5man squads x2), and a 5man dev squad, the free rhinos give you 160pts and you also get some free points from getting a chappie instead of the interrogator. 150 pts get you 5 devastators w/ 4 lascannons.

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>>52850388
taufag please go

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>>52850466
>Tyranids allied to anything
>Necrons suddendly friendly with everyone
>Orks reaching consensus over something wich isnt waaagh or dakka

I stared at the future and it was retarded

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>>52850573
Checkmate, alien

>>52850466
Finally I can play my Tyranid-Eldar-Ork-Necron Army. Pick the cherry! No neckbeard can stop you now. It's the NEW Games Workshop!

>>52850598
pukingloli.jpg

>>52850593
Welcome to Age of Emprah

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>>52850521

>>52850593
It's not alliances and it wasn't the future, it was a mirror.

>>52850599
As thought you couldn't already?

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>>52850598
Beep Boop, motherfucker.
Enjoy the strongest defenses against shooting in the game, and those are only the small ones. -3S to shooting and D chart, yo.

>>52850593
If they weren't sucking space marine dick like they are with sigmarite/chaos warrior, then they would have given all the Eldar an alliance of their own.

>>52850593
>gif.
Morte, is that you?

>>52850221
Not compatible with 8th/10

IS ADMECH GONNA GET SOMETHING NEW, PLEEEEEEASE GIVE US SOMETHING NEW

>>52850835
You get smacked into the one codex, that's all we know.

>>52850852
Atleast something

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Would Guilliam attempt to annex the Tau into his Imperium rather than exterminate them?

>>52850835
To be fair, we have Bitzbox Cawl, which means we can actually have an Archmagos lead our armies now.
Also, Skitarii CAD is a thing for him, so you can do a fluffy Centurio Ordinatus force if you want to have a Skitarii escort.

>>52850835
I want an open topped transport and a land raider equivalent walker, like a big onager.

>>52850885
He'd likely follow the Emperors example with th Eldar and give them the offer: Live in servitude or Extinction.

>>52850835
Fires of Cyraxus eventually™

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>>52850291

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>>52850291
Go play Vidya games instead then, ya retarded cunt.

>>52850137
I don't think they picked up on the implication. Naive little bastards.

>>52850885
if he can flirt with a xenos he'll likely have no problem allying with a xenos. eventually he'll probably introduce low income housing for orks too.

>>52850429
>>52850455
Oh yeah, I didn't think of this. Oh dear

>>52850598
>Can die to a rhino ramming it

>>52850993
That's not a stormsurge.

I suppose since the new SM will be Stormcast Scale, the models will get 2 wounds each? That would be pretty cool imo.

>>52851020
It would have to have similar immobility to be able to shoot, anon

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Trying to balance crunch and flavour.

>posting army lists
>in three months time half of /40kg/ will be shuffling four unpainted plastic Knights around the table because Open Play is fun™

>>52851074
But unbound armies are already a thing, hell so are Imperial Knight armies.

>>52850944
>giant $100+ models infesting the game
>A good thing
>daddies money man children actually believe this

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>>52850137
Fuck off, /pol/.

>>52851104
>everyone who makes an even slightly political joke is /pol/
You realize that /pol/ doesn't care about /tg/, right? lmao.

Go back to 1d4ddit.

>>52850199
Robbie already posted a picture on his Tumblr feed about Carcharadons Red Tithe getting a sequel.

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>Want to get started on a Dark Eldar army for when 8th comes around
>Considering painting them up as the Kabal of the Black Heart
>Every Dark Eldar player I see has them painted up in the exact same scheme

Im conflicted

>see the warhammer40k webpage
>go to chaos section
>daemons, thousand sons, death guard, CSM
>no khorne daemonkin

As a Khornefag, what would be my future be? Change (god) or die? Play CSM with the kind of traitor legion suppelement that there would be at that time (so I could play World Eaters)?

>>52851127
They are the Ultramarines of Deldar.

>>52851129
Wait for World Eater codex.

>>52851129
Likely will be plastic berzerkers and Angron.

>>52851127
Do what you like, anon. There your Deldar and they don't have to please anyone but you.

>>52851127
Deldar are difficult to paint that everyone just plays it safe with them.

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>>52851093

Yeah, you're all retards tßh.

40k was actually a decent game when it was 1 HQ, 2 Troops and a bit of extra firepower, with Flyers and Superheavies being Forge World rules for special occasions.

A core of people that will eat whatever scale increases GW decides works best for the profit margins killed it, now we have a mechanics set designed for skirmishes like Necromunda being stretched over a game that has jet fighters on six foot tables.

>>52851165
>Yeah, you're all retards tSSh.
What did he mean by this?

>>52851162
>Deldar are difficult to paint
Maybe if you consider edge highlighting difficult.

>>52851185

t-b-h is filtered so people put other things in. Like fām for f-a-m.

>>52851165
What are you even going on about. You claimed half of /tg/ was going to be running nothing but knights because of open play and I just pointed out people already can, but nobody does it because it's easy to counter if you build for it.

>>52851196
Or just don't speak like a wiglet

I've never had a post filtered into Baka Desu Sempai

>>52850835
>admech went from nithing to 30+ new kits overnight
>still need something

fuck off

>>52851204

I just chose Knights, I could have put in Gorkanauts or Riptides or whatever dull big kit shit is actually popular.

>>52851035
>he need LoS

ITT: Bitter faggots who think GW or the rest of the playerbase cares about their salty crying, seeing as they comprise around one percent (if that) of the total playerbase, don't (apparently) play the game nor buy the miniatures on a steady basis, while taking the "too little too late" mindset to feel superior about themselves.

>>52851234
>30 new kits
no. there are
>4 Skitarii kits
>4 Cult mech kits
come on anon, we need more than 8 kits.

>>52851234
>30+ kits
Skitarii has 4 kits, three of which can be made into two troops each
Cult Mech has 4 kits, two of which can be made into two different units
And then Cawl

What's the other 22 kits?

>>52851237

None of them are strong when spammed.

Troops and ObSec units in general are the most powerful unit types in the game.

>>52850199

>that dreadknight conversion

Muh dick

>>52851237
'orkanaughts aren't superheavy and they're garbage.

According to /tg/ Riptides are already spammed and make up 90% of opponents.

What's a nice, unusual "force of nature" boss monster to put in the final game of a Kill Team campaign? Something for the winning teams to either fight to kill first, or avoid while trying to take each other out.

I was looking at the Dark Elf Kharibdyss as some kind of native monster that got disturbed by the fighting, and of course there's the easy go-to of Daemon Princes and C'tan.

>>52850199
Lolwhat? Where? Show me!

>>52851305
I did something similar for a killteam campaign campaign.

Part of the fluff for the campaign was that the different teams were scouring a haunted forgeworld.
Campaign ended with them discovering why it was haunted. The leading Magos had expiremented with warp-infused promethium, and had catasthropically backfired.
Last boss a flaming promethium warp creature imbued with part of the Magos's soul.

Was quite fun.

>>52851305
Giant squig.

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>>52851165
>40K was a decent game where every force was a space marine battle company

>>52851305
Read «Battle of the Archaeosaurs» by Barrington J.Bayley and buy some AoS dinosaurs.

>>52850388
>greytide Taufags in their natural habitat

>>52851212
Fuck off /pol/, blacks are citizens too and contribute just as much (if not more) to our culture.

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>>52851339

>>52851388
Found the Swede

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>>52851388
Now you're just not even trying.

>>52850199
>fin on the dreadnought because shaaaarrks

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>>52851395
audioably kek'd


Thanks anon

>>52851388
you are now entering pol territory you had to mention culture, you couldnt just say stfu no you wanted to feel smart and morally good about comments on a meesage board and now you've given them a reason to continue fighting

very uncomfy thread thanks for helping make it uncomfy, thanks for helping pol


tldr filter key words and pol boogeyman vanishes

>>52851388
Yeah they contribute plenty of gun violence and crime

>Xenos
WHY

>>52850898
Yes that be awesome or like a flyer of some sorts would be cool too

>>52851446
filthy dumb, xenos scum

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>>52851165
>this used to be a 1500pts army
>probably closer to 1000pts now
>8E will still encourage muhreens to buy at least 3 drop pods and Rhinos for their minimally viable 1500 army

>>52850928
True but forgeworld prices are still kinda high

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>>52851050
Good list, I used to run the same one, except with a squad of raptor instead of the 2. havocs. Your HQ models should all take blight grenades, they are very useful.

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>>52851388
>contribute just as much (if not more)

>>52850070
I'm optimistic. 8th sounds good.

Heck if they literally just reverted psychic mechanics back to 6th edition I would be happy.

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>>52850070
>hear about the new announcement yesterday
>know /tg/ already bitched itself dry after Adepticon
>lo and behold /40kg/ is bitching about new Marines instead
So what am I missing here. Do we have pics or confirmation or is it yet another hoax all you fags are falling for?

>>52851305
Go proper Gorkamorka and have a Deff Dread go on a rampage

>>52851459
Unfortunately so, but there's always recasters if you're willing to put forth the effort to find their contact info.

Also there's the Secutarii kits I completely forgot existed but those are ~$30 each.

>>52851478
>Do we have pics

Yes? >>52846210

Same backpack, bolter, armour design, etc.

I've been waiting for the notification of dkok grens coming back in stock for like half a year now.
Are they discontinuing them or something?

>>52851478

It's more or less confirmed.
A leaked pic shows someone painting a group of these guys as 3rd company Ultramarines.
Digging the new Boltgun design.

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>>52851478
Is it the same as the right bolter on pic related?

>>52850199
>>52850217
>>52850465
>>52851123
>>52851410
http://www.gowarhead.com/search/label/Carcharodons

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>Marines getting ANOTHER plastic kit
>CSM still look like shit
>Eldar Apsect Warriors still 90% metal/resin

YOU SAID THINGS WOULD BE DIFFERENT NOWWW

>>52851490
What's wrong with them?

>>52851492
Nah forgeworld is just notoriously bad at restocking.

>>52851503
I mean left.

>>52850179
They do have cheaper ways to get in, now, at least.

I picked up DV with a mate a few months back, and I'm getting a wych box for SW:A etc. Still not cheap, but cheaper.

>>52851526
Nothing, people are just being autistic and looking for any chance they can get to shitpost.

>>52851503
>>52851531

No, miniature's bolter is longer, you can see the silver at the very middle of the artwork, that's the end of the casing, whereas the miniature's casing is nearly 50% longer.

>>52851458
>this used to be a 1500pts army
more like 1250, though it could definitely get to 1500 if he loaded up on useless shit that no one ever took in 3e

>>52851539
I mean will I have to buy a new army because the one I have will be tiny in comparison or what's the deal?

>>52851573
Unknown, they might just be a new Elite unit.

>>52851573
The new models just look taller because of their poses.

>>52851591
Assuming they're even a different unit and not just bog standard marines. People screeched about new scale marines before the new deathwatch models came out.

>>52851573
>will I have to buy a new army
Definitely. I work at GW, we're authorized to execute anyone bringing old marines into the store.

>>52851526
>>52851539
wut?

Anon asked if there's any pics proving it is or isn't a hoax and I just provided an image taken from GW, showing models with the same gun and armour design, which sort of shows that yes, that pic is real and not a hoax.

Anything else I'll leave until we get more info on the kit.

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>>52851573
>play any non marine army
>be safe from model/rule updates

What's the joke behind girls playing nids?

I brought my space marines to my LGS yesterday and kept getting cracks about how my tyrannids were too power armor-y.

It didn't bother me, but I just didn't get the joke.

>>52851605
aww fuck

>>52851612
He asked for a picture and then after the picture was provided he asked what was wrong with them because there's so many people screeching about them right now. There's at least two or three threads right now on /tg/ of people shitposting about them.

>>52851601
>Assuming they're even a different unit and not just bog standard marines. People screeched about new scale marines before the new deathwatch models came out.
And the only thing we know now we didn't befor eis that they are really a thing.

Still complete guesswork.

>>52851605
Good thing noone worth their oxygen actually plays at GW stores, it's the sewer of TT gaming where all the dross, slime and refuse from game groups congeals.

>>52851628
Women identify with eternally hungering for a man's paycheck and birthing dozens of little monsters

>>52851649
Hah

They are too alien looking for me. Filthy xenos

what's the deal with 8th edition? are they moving past d6? will i finally play the game?

>>52851645
>Good thing noone worth their oxygen actually plays at GW stores
You didn't hear it from me, but undercover agents will be doing sweeps of the trade partners intermittently after release. Don't think private gatherings are very safe either.

>>52851649
More like eternally hungering for genetic material

>>52851679
will we have to watch the next episode to find out ?

>>52851679
>are they moving past d6?
We dont know, we really haven't gotten alot of concrete info on what the game will look like.

They will hand out prewievs of the new rules over the coming weeks.

>>52851689
om nom nom

>>52851700
find out next time on dragons ball p

>>52851679
New edition
No
Nope, then you wouldn't be able so sit on the sideline with "if they add X I might play <;)"

>>52851685
No even worth the capcha for a separate reply.

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>>52851679

>moving past d6

Mate, use your brain.

If that's what you think GW's design studio would even consider, you're barking up the wrong tree. You're not even in the right fucking orchard.

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>>52851628
Its just a meme like I2 Orks. Apparently an disproportinal amount of girls play tyranids because they look cute or something. And a recent pic from GWs new 40k website revied it.

>>52851719
>they look cute or something
*shudder*

Or something is about right

>>52850093
I'm not butthurt, but the fact that they have zero actual rules improvement to point to and their release/FAQ make light of their past incompetency is a worrying sign.

That the core rules are free (maybe? how that fits in with GH for 40k is a mystery) but you still have to buy codexes is a bit of a red flag, as is the "we're totally charging you $50 annually for updated core rules."

>>52851725
Well most og 40k's female player base are damaged goods with no female friends, so they affect quirky and "totally not girly" tastes to fit in with the boys.

>>52851719
The perspective difference on the muzzle vs the casing is messing me up...

>>52851725
>*shudder*
You have to go back.

>>52851654
I've been on /soc/ where someone matched perfectly with my tastes in a Soulmate Thread and yet that single line have me a heart-on more.

Praise on Loyal Waifu

>>52851752
The strange thing is I have no love for what would be my ideal counterpart SoB.

I just really like space marines, especially the yellow fistos

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>>52851772
This guys bunch?

>>52851786
Awww yiss, my primarch

>>52851746
I think that's a lost reference, sorry I've never seen it

>>52851752
>begin thirsty on a Eritrean gold panning forum

>>52851819
Emotes are considered to be Reddit things
Smileys are Gaia things

>>52851849
Fair enough

>>52851845
I know my flaws.
>implying a Hive World heavy stubber enthusiast Vox isn't the best place to find loyal waifus

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>>52851845
>>52851752
>I've been on /soc/
Figures

Well, codexes are useless now, but painting guides live on.
I can't find it in the mega, is there a copy of Raiders of Commorragh floating around somewhere?

>>52851865
Considering they've more attention starved camwhores than Motherless, Xhamster and the entirety of russia combined... eh.

>>52851719
>you will never play a vidya starring Raptors vs Alpha Legion where you try to out-tacticool each other.

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>>52850070
So now that 8th Edition will fix all the balance issues there have been in recent years, which armys will gain player, which will lose most? What army would you switch to, knowing you allway stand a fair chance?

>>52851903
...
My Favorite army fluff wise would be a mix of Grey Knights and Sisters of Battle...


Or I a mix of Space wolves and some Russed Out SOB but I could only do this kind of army if SOB were in plastic so I could convert them easier.

I for one wish for new miniatueres for Orks, Sororitas and DKoK. The level of details got high but these are lacking them.

My only real complain as of now would be the removal of Codexes, I wish they did not. Hopefully we can still purchase them even if they are not necessary.

>>52851903
I already play Orks and CSM.

>>52851888
Reasonable marines are cancer. The entire point behind Astartes is shock-and-awe, with heavy emphasis on shock.

>>52851903
>So now that 8th Edition will fix all the balance issues there have been in recent years
Is your hypothetical occurring in some sort of utopian parallel universe or do you actually think this will happen?

>>52851936
They still do that, they just do prep work so the enemy is shocked and awed and is vastly disadvantaged in fighting back efficiently.

>>52851925
>DKoK
>Missing detail
Niggah you fucking what

i agree with you on sororitas and orks though.

>>52851925
>removal of Codexes
No, current codices will be incompatible with the new rules. That doesn't mean there won't be new ones that are.

>>52851959
fink e' means plastics wif poses boss.

>>52851925
True but removing the Codexes means they can do something they haven't done before. regular new releases. Think about it all they have to do is release a "Codex Noise Marines" and suddenly CSM can have an update, New Models, New creations of the Dark Princes champions to wage war in her name across the galaxy. Any army can get a update small or now without having to reprint the whole thing. Plus they can update lore etc.

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>>52851942
I think it will get better. They had to admit that some armys are just in a sorry state several times one twitch and they even stated that we bullied them to the changes planned for 8th in their FAQ.

>>52851977
that's note what he said at all though.

>>52851978

Basically it'll be like it's been for two editions, instead of a codex being £15 you need to buy two or more for £30+ each to keep up.

>>52851339
Sounds good. I just remembered the mecha krakens from the Tempest galleries on Terra and was trying to figure out how to scratchbuild tentacles and stuff.
>>52851340
>>52851487
No Orks involved in this fluff sadly, although chasing down a squig that ate a relic sounds hilarious. Saved for another day.
>>52851366
Sounds very nice, but the group has already become well acquainted with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5LxFaGQXYA and as much as I like it I don't want the campaign tone getting derailed.

>>52851104
God you sound as bad as them, grow a fucking skin no one is giving upvotes here

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>>52851888
I want to Raptors but I'm not sure how many purity seals and tokens of faith I could remove before I go mad

I mean just look at the SM veteran models, why so much cloth? That's not tactical at all, not tactical at all my friend.

Pic mildly related, how I want Raptors to look

>>52850070
> be me
> start collecting Deldar and Harlequins
> get codices last December
> force nearly ready
> Solitaire looks like a beast
> find out 7th edition is now obsolete

>>52851903
I will keep playing Tau but feel a bit less bad about it

>>52852010
Yeah but if they do away with Codexes I can just go on the website and download the rules for the dudes without buying the book, for free...
So i'll see their stat lines, special weapons, for free just not the formations, and command point things.

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>>52851115
>You realize that /pol/ doesn't care about /tg/, right? lmao.

Yeah, right. Go back to pepe-lala-land.

>>52851612
Ah, is this straight from GW? Mind posting the source? Not baiting, just been out of it for a while.

>>52851636
That wasn't me. I've been away until now. You shouldn't be surprised /tg/ has its panties in a bunch over new Marines though.

>>52852087
thelifeandtimesofawargarmer.jpg

>>52851903
Going by how assault is rumoured to work, Orks and Nigs are going to be beasts

>>52851903

Ork players will start coming out of the woodwork in droves because of the new proposed melee system.
I don't know if it means Ork CC armies will be powerful, but it's something I'm expecting to happen.
If it's anything like Shadow Wars melee, armies with high WS will shine.

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>>52852065
Like the guys who caused their Primarch such a headache on istvaan?

>>52852065
DG as vets maybe?
They get sniper bolters, backpack mounted combat cams and pipboys.
Only the left side scribblearm that's an issue

>>52851712
i dunno. i could see other dice making it in for specific mechanics.

new epic is going to use d10s and well as d6s.

but yeah i doubt the core/majority of rolls will be anything but d6.

>>52852131
>Going by how assault is rumoured to work, Orks and Nigs are going to be beasts
Anything backed even the slightest or just pure asspulls?

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Just found the source of the cancer.

>>52850223
Yup waiting for more 'nid fucking

>>52852103
Why does anyone think they're doing away with them?

>>52852134
Why would you want that melee system for larger battles? Nostalgia for 2E?

>>52852160
mostly asspulls based on the reveal that chargers will strike first in combat and S based save mods.

theres not actually been enough info released to make a real judgment

>>52852160
The Warhammer Community Website where GW said specifically if they are going to use Warhammer Fantasy's rule of if you charge it you go first*.


*Some exceptions may apply. Charging a unit in cover will probably not end that favorable for you without something something, see rulebook for list of exceptions.

>>52852134
Shadow wars melee is 2nd edition melee and it was extremely slow and cumbersome for larger assaults. It works for skirmish but I would be stunned if they do the same thing. They already said that charging units will attack first too, which implies it won't be like 2nd edition.

>>52852103
codexs aren't gone.
just the current ones will be obselete and new ones compatible with 8e will be available day 1.

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>>52852178
God bless him. It will be thanks to him that I will soon enjoy the tears of my Yiff-playing friend.

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>>52852065
Well at least the normal SM box doesn't have that many purity seals
C'mon anon, I have confidence you can deal with it!

>>52852207

You say that, but you know the mark 9 marines are in the same scale as other marines, right?

They just have the barely perceptible height bump deathwatch and thousand sons have, plus a straighter legged stance.

>>52852191
>S based save mods.
No such "reveal" only save modification.

And if you say "Muh half-assed necromunda clone uses S mods" I'll have to post pictures of animu people with scornful expressions.

>>52852160
They said the unit that successfully gets a charge off will get a hammer of wrath attack irregardless of WS and unwieldy

>>52852087
So what? You still use the same stuff in the new edition so just wait for the new free rules and get whatever the codex is turned into and play with them.

>>52852226
>irregardless

>>52852187
>>52852199

I don't want the old system, but the current one is ass too.
It appears obvious they're cashing in on nostalgia by reintroducing old mechanics to appeal to older players, even if they're trash. Things like partial hits with flamers/blasts and save modifiers come to mind.

>>52851772
>It's IF-Chan
How's your painting going?

>>52852107
>one (1) thread
>doesn't even mention /tg/ once
>"WAH WAH LOOK AT HOW MUCH POL CARES ABOUT TG WAH WAH"
Bravo.

>>52852191
We don't even know if those will be S based. It's just as likely they will use the old AP values and so something like - to 6 is -0, 4 to 5 is -1, 3 is -2. 2 is -3 and 1 is -4.

I could see that being a thing. We don't know enough to do more than guess.

>>52852187
Rummors mostly. And we don't think they are totally doing away with them. They said they were putting out cheap books (my bet is similar to the grand alliance books) at launch for all the armies that will update their stats. But they also said they will give out the basic rules for free...

Which hints they may put the stats out for free similar to AOS. Again we don't know but it is seeming more likely.

>>52852226
>irregardless
>Not-regardless
So is IS reliant on WS and Unwieldy?

>>52852239
Good, working on my centurions.

Lots of big plates for free hand practice

>>52852238
Save modifiers always made a lot more sense than the current system. They allow guns to have similar worth against all opponents, rather than ap2, 3 and 4 guns having massive spikes in worth against specific opponents.

>>52851525
SoB still have the bulk of their army from 1997

GW is the same as always. Till we get a public apology for thinks like the carnifex and killing fantasy (I do not mean the axing for AoS but their "strategy" of milking the consumers till they killed the game) Nothing will change.

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>>52852178
Also how he claims to have started the fad
Like noone else could have had literally the same idea without going on and sparging it everywhere and he is 100% sure noone else ever posted about more realistic looking marine conversions without calling them truescale but he just went on google.co.uk and look for MUH SPACE MARINE TRUESCALE and found the picture on his neckbeard blog as the first result so he could claim his autistic prize

>>52851903
>So now that 8th Edition will fix all the balance issues
You should write comedy, that was a pretty funny post.

>>52852149
That's a good idea (assuming you meant Deathwatch), scribblearm is not too bad because it's actual armour, not unnecessary decoration. Come to think of it Tartaros termies fit the bill as well.

>>52852208
Hmmm maybe when 8th drops I'll seriously consider it

>>52852140
>we don't talk about that time

GRAND ALLIANCE: XENOS

OH MY FUCKING KEK

>>52850598
>>52850573
>>52850388
Your all fools and you're stupidly high profiles is going to get you killed.

Get in the tank and learn the value of being hulled-down behind your own troops!

>>52852238
>Things like partial hits with flamers/blasts and save modifiers
Are far superior to current rules yes.

As are "true" hits with blasts, cover/range/target size hit mods.

Bad old rules would be paying 25% movement to pivots a vehicle 90 degrees, hand/regular/heavy flamer templates, grenade fumble..

>>52850466
The funny thing is, NuGW is just incompetent enough to do this.

Any news about psychic phase?

>>52852289

Have you ever played against a "Truescale" modeller, because I think I'd be pretty annoyed looking at his wildly out of scale autism models for an entire three hour game.

>>52852187
They have said that they aren't using Shadow War's Melee system. That was a system designed just for Shadow War, it isn't being imported. What we might see cross over are the save modifiers on the ranged weapons.

>>52852178
>Just found the source of the cancer.
Dakkadakka as a whole is just another tumour

>>52852327
I hope it fucking dies. Holy shit 7th ed psychic rules are the worst part of a bad edition.

>>52852289

When did that guy start sperging about TRUE SCALE MUHREENS? I remember it being popular back in 2005-2006 on Warseer.

>>52852298
That's not what it is at all. But don't let me stop your from jumping to conclusions.

>>52852131
>auto-corrected to Nigs
/pol/ pls

>>52852334
It wouldn't be so bad if psychic powers weren't impossible to counter to the point of it being useless to even try.

>>52852334
Y-you too!

>>52852342
>everyone i don't like is /pol/
>even a typo error is /pol/
Go back to 1d4ddit

>>52852333

You should see the raw wall of autism you get on Dakka if someone brings up that most people treat the points of a game as a rough guideline rather than an exact barrier you must never cross by immutable law of justice.

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>>52852178
>>52852289

He's actually right though, so save your salt.

I remember cooing over his true scale stuff on Portent (Warseer's spiritual liege) and the GW forums, back when the website actually had hobby articles and shit.

>>52852203
Your right. Even in my argument against codexes I was saying they would put out update ones. What I meant was manditory codex purchases will be gone. And you can download unit stats from the website.

But to get your command point thingies, army comp rules, ect. ect. you HAVE to buy the codex but otherwise you will be fine to try the game without it.

>>52852344
at least 7e has the posibility of countering them.

>>52852358
Lol that's fucking horrible
Just no

>>52850966
>What is a 40kg without butt hurtness? Really? it's the fuel of this thread nowadays

OMG,

Rosa Porks warboss conversion.

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>>52852297
Some of us had a good time back than.

>>52852344

>It wouldn't be so bad if psychic powers weren't impossible to counter to the point of it being useless to even try.

For the most part, though I feel like a total ass when I play Tzeentch against a guy who brought one librarian along, and I can just dump 20+ denial dice and render him worthless.

>>52852355

>most people treat the points of a game as a rough guideline rather than an exact barrier you must never cross by immutable law of justice.

You're chatting shit, or belong to a reasonable group of players. I've always played to points other than special games.

>>52851903
>More ways to build your army than ever!
Balance is fucked. You cannot, as a game designer, balance anything when accounting for infinity.

>>52852329
The anon I replied to seemed to think they would. Specifically regarding WS, which is unlikely to affect saves.
And the system was hardly "designed just for Shadow War" given that 2E used it decades earlier.

>>52852208
>literally 8/10 legs have a seal

>>52852328
>Sperging out so much about thinking marines are to small they spend a fortune making models themselves
>Their 'truescale' marines are always twice as large as human models for some reason, which is way to tall if you follow fluff examples
>They still use standard vehicles with the autism-scale marines

Truescale autists are just cancer.

Also the pics we have seen strongly hints at the new marines being compatible with devastator marines ... which makes it more likely new marines will actually be similiar to Deathwatch models rather than truescale.

>>52852358

Oh fuck that's horrendous.

He must have spent hours ruining that one model.

>>52852369

>that guy didn't invent true scale
>you can't guarantee it but he did do loads of true scale stuff on the early image forums
>oh it looks shit then XD

I can't imagine being this much of a little bitch

Stereotype a person based solely on their taste in army aesthetics (so NOT based on rules, army composition, meta, or anything else - just which army they think looks coolest). Pretend you just met this person, and they've never heard of 40k in their life, and looking at the army's they say "I like the way this one looks".

For example, the obvious one:
>Tau
>mecha anime watching weeb

>>52852386
GW said that Shadow War was specifically not a Preview of 8th, and that little would carry over between the two. They mentioned that cover effecting to hit was one and that was about it.

The Melee system the Specifically called out as not having much to do with 8th.

>>52852323
Only Xenos is the worst one, t b h senpai

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>>52852353
Behold, a joke? On my catachan wood chopping forum? REEEEE

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To send 7th off, my LGS is shuffling armies around for the next tournament. Everyone who's involved puts up their usual tournament army, and we get assigned one at random, just to get people trying out other lists and because, well, why the fuck not?

I'll tell you why the fuck not: I've been stuck with Grey Knights. And he only owns 2 Dreadknights.

How does this list look? I have mostly no idea what I'm doing.

You poor space marine players are going to be fucked when looking for cover. But at least you'll be tall enough to punch the Crises suits in the face!

Honestly I was expecting them to make guardsmen smaller, not space marines bigger.

>>52852408
>Chaos
>Daddy issues

with ADB as an example this is the only explanation :^)

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>>52852420
How does this image make you feel, retarded 1d4dditor cuck?

>>52852408
>tyanids
>hentai fan

>catachans
>Vietnam War Enthusiast

>necrons
>80-90s sci-fi movie fan

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>>52851925

Krieg missing detail.

>>52852353
TALKING ABOUT 1D4CHAN IS /POL/!

:P

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>>52852408
Yiffs: have a full beard.

>>52852353
The joke.
.
.
.
Your head.

>>52852408
>ultramarines
>12 year olds and matt ward

>>52852334
Yeah, move psychic powers to relevant phase (summons in reserves/movement, witchfires in shooting, force in melee) also bonus point for separate Perils (2x1) and Irresistible Force (2x6)

>>52852407
I can't see where you are taking that chain of implications from, I just stated it looks horrible.
I'd gladly take the numarine models over that fat priest-marine

>>52852381
balance is (potentially fine). they're definitely counting the essentially un restricted nature of open play in that statement.

matched play where balance matters is certain to be the most restrictive in army building.

>>52852408
Someone do me with imperial fists

>>52852408
>>52852430
Now I'm conflicted. Should I take Tau or Tyranids?

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Some questions about the intro' trailer for DoW 3,

1. There's a part where an Ork rips off the arm of a Space Marine that's on his last breath, seemingly easily. This surprised me how a simple Boy can quickly and easily rip off an arm of a Space Marine like that. Any word on how "realistic" that is?

2. Are those large walkers Titans? I thought Titans wouldn't be anywhere near that mobile/fast.

3. What's with all of the bodies falling on top of one another? They kept showing this. Is this just some artistic/non-sense footage?

4. I've noticed that the Space Marines looked very lean in the trailer. They're typically very 'thick' and stumpy--at least by their looks of their armour. I am aware that inside they are large humans too.

-Boo for only 3 races in DoW. Huge universe of 40k, and only 3 races? What a joke.

>>52852408
Imperial Guard
>Why can't Bolt Action be more Popular?
Armored Battlegroup
>*Panzerlied Intensifies*

>>52852408
>DKOK
>wwii enthusiasts

Best Spess Mehreen chapter ever?

I go for Imperial Fists, maybe fighiting with the Salamanders for the place.

>>52852458
>using DoWII, a game where a chapter maser can get primarch sized by taking two scoops of warp dust and proceed to do lunges and backflips in terminator armor, as any indication of fluff

>>52852456
why not both.
use allies. easybto justify in the fluff. Tau genestealer cult.

>>52852470
lookuponyouandknewyouweremynigger.jpg

You and me, hoss

>>52852464
There's a whole lot more to DKoK than "muh nazis" though. Extreme guilt where everybody is incredibly mentally ill. It makes regular Imperium's "dying for the emperor" a wash in comparison.

>>52852470
Dark Angels. Black Templar.

>>52852471
>anons can't ask questions about a different game

>>52852408
>1ksons
Nerds

>>52852429
>being this edgy
Kek, not even him, but man you are pretty dumb if you think nazi flags will offend us. We are less that clicks away from seeing horse dicks and inflation porn. Lol you guys are pathetic

>>52852407
Go back to your autistic forum

>>52852273

I agree. I'm saying that they're bringing them back to grab the attention of people who have "grown out of tabletop wargaming".

>>52852476
That's why they're fucking stereotypes you dumbass.

>>52852358
I like how he implies how I should spend 15 hours of work and 5 € of additional bits to come out with that retarded-looking model

>>52852458
>Any word on how "realistic" that is?
guy, stop

>>52852476
I missed an "I". That said, the greentext should make it obvious that while its a visual cool trailer, the game appears to be a sham as far as accuracy to fluff goes.

>>52852475
Spess Niggers are awesome, bro

>>52852476
Black Templars look cool.

>>52852482
>us
Who is "us" lmao? Nobody else is with you.

>>52852494
>thinking that post is a disagreement
you're the stereotype of a 4channer. can't read for shit and goes ape-shit for no reason. ironic.

>>52852497
oh look another one. ignores quotation marks.

>>52852502
I don't have the image saved, it's thrown around here a lot tho

I'm a big IF fan, granted I am still a noob

>>52852429
Awesome

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>>52852470
Carcharodons

Rip and tear.

>>52852408
Space Marines:
Lil' Timmy

Chaos Space Marines:
13 yo' Spike

Chaos Daemons:
Contrarian 13 yo Spike

IG:
Fat ginger

Orks:
Jolly guy at the LGS who cries bitter bitch tears and falseflag shitposts as other factions at home

Eldar:
Jimmy

Deldar:
Contrarian Jimmy

Admech:
"Hey guys look at my highly individual army"
"Hey guys look at my highly individual army"
"Hey guys look at my highly individual army"
"Hey guys look at my highly individual army"
"Hey guys look at my highly individual army"

Necrons:
0 effort guy

Tyranids:
Too easy

Tau:
Too easy

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>>52852470
It's easy to stand up for yourself when you've got a Legion's power behind you.

It's noble to stand up for yourself when you don't.

>>52852506
>4channer
Hello 1d4ddit!

>>52852497
Even in a fictional universe with totally unrealistic stuff happening every day, there may be realistic stuff too. I think he is going for a fluff-wise realistic.

>>52852508
Maybe some anon have it. Dunno what pic you are saying

>>52852408
>dark eldar
>women should be kept in collars and answer "yes master"

>>52852525
ok. someone who posts on the website known as 4chan. same difference, autismo.

>>52852515
Carcharodons
Tip and rear

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>>52852470

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>>52852526
This one.

Conveying my satisfaction at your appreciate for the fistos

>>52852531
Go back to your reddit wiki please.

>>52852458
1.Pretty sure he's a Nob but whatever, they're all superhumanly strong.
2. Knights. Smaller, more agile Titans basically.
3. Some kind of fucked up purgatory/afterlife
4. Fucking SEGA

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>>52852544

>>52852408
Seeing those responses makes me fucking puke.

Here is the superior generalization:

>Space Marines
>clueless newcomers or chill oldfags

>IG
>underdog cucks who complain about the posterboys getting more attention than them

>Eldar
>the WAAC oldfag

>Dark Eldar
>Edgelord or Eldar player handicapping himself

>Tau
>WAAC scrubs

>Tyranids
>girls or faggots who don't realize that they are gay (they also main Yoshi)

>Necrons
>guy in the background

>Orks
>meme-spouting fatass who hates GW, but stays loyal to his abuser husband

>Chaos Space Marines
>Tryhards, often played by manlets (Khorne), cheesefags (Tzeentch), ugly as fuck fat people (Nurgle) or scenekids who pretend to be above these nerds (Slaanesh)

>Admech&Skiitari
>Huge handsome guys who get laid every single day, GW also sucks their cocks around these army players presence, they are simple too perfect for this world

>>52852515
That mini looks so cool I'd marry it.

>Some rip and tear going on in the first night

>>52852524
A Legion behind and kilometres of walls, sentry guns and mines between you and the enemy. May sound a little too gay, but dude, I like them Yellow Mehreens

>>52852541
Who are them?

>>52852544
Thanks, mate!

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Whats this guy's helmet? I'm planning to give one to my HQ.

Also post cool minis

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>>52852429
Going for a hindu theme i see.

>>52852564
>A Legion behind and kilometres of walls, sentry guns and mines between you and the enemy. May sound a little too gay, but dude, I like them Yellow Mehreens
Oh, so do I, but they're no longer a Legion. And the Lions stood much more as Fists should than Fists ever have.

>>52852560
Found the SM and Eldar player.

>nuh-uh my bullshit tier-list is the best and if you don't believe it ur a foreva alone autist!
Dumb-ass post as usual.

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>>52852464
Can confirm, reason i havent picked fallschirmjager's in space over dkok is i dont like the pot helmets and the background of the regiment. Ex hive gangers cant dream to compete with kriegers.
Not even mentioning gw wont make steel legion troopers because that area is covered by dkok