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Read before you weep edition.

Pre 8'th FAQ:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/04/22/the-new-edition-of-warhammer-40000-your-questions-answered/

8th teaser:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A3G6JcLn24&ab_channel=WarhammerTV

>Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android.
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>40k rules reference in wiki format.
https://sites.google.com/site/wh40000rules/

>Latest GW teases
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000/

>Latest GW FAQs.
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-JP/Rules-Errata

>40K 7th Edition Quick Reference Sheets:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4104995/Games/7edRef.pdf

>List organizer picture book
https://webapplications-webroster.rhcloud.com/rc/web/#/rosterCreator

>Offline list builder
https://battlescribe.net/

>Forge World Book Index:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Forge_World_and_Apocalypse_Rules_Index
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Press F to pay respects
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>>52833834
No, 7th doesn't deserve that much.
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RIP I2
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>>52833834
Filtered as spam
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nth for Orks will rise again
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I ran this against my mate's Dark Eldar today and thrashed him. It's completely bonkers though, because he knew I was bringing this exact list and decided not to bring his Corpse Thief formation of five Talos Pain Engines, and then spent the points on eighteen armour 5 jetbikes instead. We ended up playing Purge, and he basically just fed me singular units the whole game. He had 3 Ravagers with Dark Lances, about eight Venoms, three squads of those dumb jetbikes and a bunch of Wracks and Grotesques. I hit the Raider carrying the Grotesques with a railgun round and exploded it on the first turn, and all the fight basically went out of him and he started this massive suicidal charge. He was easily out of range of most of my stuff, there was LOS blocking terrain everywhere, so what he couldn't get out of range of (the Hammerhead guns and a Railside) he could have hid from. We ended up with a draw, he raped me on Maelstrom points but I got like 16 kill points from the mission being Purge (ITC combined mission format)

Basically, he knew exactly what I was bringing and decided to gimp himself (he knows I can barely deal with the Talos formation) and then spent the whole game screaming about how OP my army is. He can beat it, but he says that fielding the Talos is boring because he rolls everyone with it. Then he bitches for literally hours when he gets rolled because he didn't bring it. This guy is one of my best mates, /tg/. How can I get him to calm the fuck down about me switching to Tau? I mean...I'm not being a dick, right?
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Death guard in the starter set then?
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DKOK in plastic where?
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>>52833866
But who are the loyalists? Some anon said BT in last thread, but that doesn't look like BT. Iron Hands maybe?
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>>52833866
I wish.
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>>52833870
never
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>>52833866
Someone said DGvsBT

What's BT?
>>52833865
deleet this
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>>52833819
Also New warhamer domain:
https://warhammer40000.com/
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Milatarum Tempests no longer a faction?
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>>52833877
Black with laurels, seems pretty BT to me., IH have white bolter cases.
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>>52833866
Oh come on.. it is Death Guard vs. Ultra Marines.
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>>52833797
That has to be the unhappiest grot...He is literally discovering what it is like to be the angel on a Christmas tree...
I mean the Sanguinius on a Sanguinallia tree.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWsrypTqus8
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Plastic sororitas,WHEN?
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>The core rules for the game will be free, and you’ll have several options on how you get your
hands on the full rulebook
>The rules in our current range of Warhammer 40,000 codexes aren’t compatible with the new
edition of Warhammer 40,000. These books will be going off sale very soon.
>You’ll be able to submit your questions and queries on the Warhammer
40,000 Facebook page and we'll make sure we continue to evolve the game as feedback rolls
in.
Welp guys, it seems like AoS just saved the 40k. I'm feeling really good about this
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>>52833906
BT wear MK 4?
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>>52833905
Why?
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>>52833906
Looks Raven Guard to me.
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>>52833891

>Choose a side:

>Chaos
>Imperium
>Xenos
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>>52833834
Respect? Man It's taking everything I have not to shit in 7th Grave.
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>>52833922
Dude, you already got like.. 4 of them this year. Don't be selfish. Let Space Marine player get some time in the spotlight!
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>>52833914
I saw him as being mid throw I guess. He throws bombs at boys that get out of line.
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>>52833866
How is the background music called?

Sounds really epic
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>>52833905
probably realized that making a single elites choice of guard into a faction on it's own wasn't really necessary?
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>just got the 7th ed rulebook and my army codex 2 days ago
>this happens
FUCK
FUCKING FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>52833866
I can see DG v DA. It's Dark Green in the left, not black, and the nurhle scheme is obvious on the right.
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>>52833888
>What's BT?

Black Templars
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>>52833956
DA had the last starter kit, no way they're getting two in a row.
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>>52833955
Why the fuck would you buy this shit without doing any online research. Serves you right.
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>>52833955
Dumbass.
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>>52833866
Is it RG or BT?
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>>52833955
It's worth keeping for the fluff and/or collection purposes. If you still have the receipt you could always return them?
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>>52833955
The rumors have been around for months tho. And you could have just downloaded them, you know, until we have/had confirmation on this.
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>>52833905

Also no KDK listed on the new site.>>52833928
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>>52833955
You have brought this on yourself Anon - we know about 8th edition being something really different for something like few moths
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>>52833955
Nigger everyone told everyone everyone to wait for 8th before getting into the game. You only have yourself to blame.
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>>52833975
Fuck off. Rumors were "maybe after summer we get something!", stop saying otherwise.
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>>52833955

That happened to me with 6th!

The unsympathetic reaction from my local GW is why I pirate everything from here now.
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I think its the fallen in the trailer, new edition will reveal them as heroes and loyalists
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>>52833956
DA have red bolters.
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>>52833973
I bought it from GW's online store...

I guess I could keep it for collection purposes though. They'll find a nice spot on the bookshelf next to my old 5th edition codices and 6th edition rulebook.
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>>52833931
Not beakie helmet though.

>>52833928
They wear all sorts.
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>>52833928

The were second founding and basically already their own chapter during the Heresy.
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>3 ways to play
Why do they keep saying this? There are only 2 ways to play in my experience--narrative, where you use references for famous battles and redo them, and normal points. What is the third option?
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>>52833998
wish you could pirate miniatures
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>>52834008
WAACfaggot's delight apparently
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>>52833994
So you could have waited until then and use the pdfs on a tablet/phone.

Btw.
>Why should I trust you?
>Come on! This is New Games Workshop™
Kek
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>>52834008
Open/Unbound
Scenario/Narrative
Vanilla
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>>52834008

Open Play: No points, take what you want, just agree with your opponent.
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It's raven guard vs death guard you stupid fuckers
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>>52833944
While having the Warboss's banner pole stuffed up his shit chute yes. Just look at that face he's in pain He's happy to throw those bombs so other can know the pain he is in.
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>Black Templars have no own supplement so they are not considered theyr own faction like Dark Angels, Blood Angels and Space Wolves are

That needs to change NOW
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Why should I not just stick with current Warhammer 40,000?
This is the version of Warhammer 40,000 you’ve been asking for. We’ve listened to your feedback, and we really believe that this is the best Warhammer 40,000 has ever been."

Ok, who asked for this? Because I certainly didn't
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>>52833955
>Downloaded 7e pdf off pirate bay 2 days ago since I'm trying to learn the game before investing time and money into it.

feels good.
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>>52834047
I did
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>>52834033
Laurels DO point in that direction, I guess they went with MK IV to make it mirror the DG side, as they dont' have MK VI.
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>>52834047
Me.
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>>52834017
>wait until after your vacations to get into a hobby, so you won't have time thanks to work, fuck the whole free summer in the meantime
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>>52834029

It is ridiculous to devote more than a sentence of book space to that play mode, and frankly Narrative should also use points by default.
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>>52833852
pay respects to 40k, not 7th you dingus.

It's getting sigmar'd.
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>>52833994
The rumor was maybe MID/LATE SUMMER not after summer. As in 3 months from now...

Jesh I jumped back in in Feb. and I was already hearing rumblings about 8th so I've only bought paint and models.
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>>52834043
You start with DT, you don't know where to draw the line afterwards.
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>>52834047
Feel free to keep playing 7th with friends, noone will force you to change.

If it's the better system I'm sure loads of people will agree with you and continue with 7th as well.
Just like they did with Fantasy
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>>52834047
>Ok, who asked for this? Because I certainly didn't
Pretty much all of 40kg has been bitching about 7th edition all the time. And also since every other edition, except [the one you started in].
And it's probably better to start anew, rather than trying to patch up an ancient game with dozens of supplements
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>free core rules instead of paying $100 just to buy the rulebook
>balanced game mode where you don't have to worry about Apoc shit
>GW openly referencingg "This is New Games Workshop™"

What a fucking time to be alive, lads. If you'd told me any of this five years ago, I'd have thought you lost your mind.
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>>52833973
Not always my LGS has a no Returns policy. What you bought has to be strait up defective out of the packaging in order for him to return it.
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>>52834002
I'd weep tears of zeal for BT starter box then. The sons of Sigismund have waited long for this day.
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>>52834074
The shop is real
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>>52834043
BA, DA and SW are still kept separated from vanilla marines in the new page, making it unlikely that they would mix them with the latter like they did with the BT

And all is right with the world
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>>52834047
Just play with 7th terrible rules m8 - if it was so great then you will have no problem with finding other players sticking with 7e
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>>52833860
I hope Orks will get the first codex this edition :^)
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OK, sounds better than I was worrying about.
Also, Tau synopsis doesn't even MENTION their myriad allies, just the battlesuits.

At least the Admech one makes them seem suitably esoteric and remote, I just wish the electro-priests that look so cool had remotely tolerable rules.
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>>52834047
>hey, I'm looking to get into Warhammer! How do I build an army?

>it's easy, just drop $140 on rulebooks and make a formation of a detachment of a decurion of a formation of a CAD

>o-okay

Anyone who believes 40k's current incarnation is accessible or conducive to long-term success is kidding themselves.
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>8th ed comes with everyone getting an update
>There will be no drop pods for spiky marines
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>>52834113
>what is forgeworld
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>>52834113
>There should be no penalty for betraying the Imperium
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>https://warhammer40000.com/new-to-40k/paint/

Is that a new marine model?
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>>52834104
>tfw still playing with the 1999 codex

it's an abstract kind of feeling
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>>52833988
KDK was just a one time thing and they said that often enough.
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>>52834131
it's a squad of the megamarines

heads look kinda goofy
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>>52834071
If Narrative uses points then the winner might lose.
I mean, civil war reenactments don't let the wrong person win.
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>>52834092
New here.
So, this is good?
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>>52834092
Based Rountree, savior of GW.
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>>52834098
Yeah that's true and right

Also, with more supplements more factions can be added, in my previous post I bitched about the BL, but beeing Thousand Sons and Death Guard unique factions they will eventually add the World Eaters and Emperor's Children too
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Potentially the new 'Sons of Guilleman' chapter that's mentioned in SWAG?

Makes sense as Ultramarines have always been the poster boys and I assume they would be replace by this new chapter.
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Can I still use all my models?
>Yes. Every Warhammer 40,000 miniature we sell today will be usable in the new edition of
Warhammer 40,000. What’s more, they’ll be supported with new rules, which will be available
from the get go in handy, low-cost books.

Even Forge World models?
>Yes, even all of your Warhammer 40,000 Forge World models.

So will every FW model get new, official GW approved rules? Think they'll be just as accepted as GW models?
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>>52834113
Holy shit, you are right.
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>>52834092
Dont forget:
>Will the rules be updated annually (ala, the General's Handbook)?
"What a great idea! We've had such a fantastic response to our community-led approach with the Warhammer Age of Sigmar rules updates that we're committed to doing the same for Warhammer 40,000."
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>>52834131
>mfw the numarine leak was real

Crazy times are upon us!
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>>52834173 > >>52834131
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>>52834131
HOLY SHIT. HOLD ME /tg/.
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>>52834131
Another pic, check the painting guide book in the background.
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>>52834104
I think they are releasing the cheap army books all at once. In one great mass release Kinda like the AOS
"Chaos Battletome", "Order Battletome" and then the other two. So likely the core rulebook will drop with a books called (maybe) "Imperium", "Chaos", "Xenos" that will just be unit rules for all existing models and maybe a page of fluff on each faction. Later they roll out with individual books for each faction in the $30-40 range with more details.
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>>52834170
>the new 'Sons of Guilleman' chapter that's mentioned in SWAG
nigger the sons of guilliman are an old chapter

those guys are just ultramarines
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>>52834170

Sons of Guilliman aren't new, they were mentioned as combatants on Armageddon back in 3rd Edition. The Shadow War Chapters are basically just the Chapters fighting on Armageddon (hence no Raven Guard and other 1st Foundings), and since Ultramarines weren't there they needed something else to represent them.
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I for one am really looking forward to it
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>>52834170
>new 'Sons of Guilleman' chapter that's mentioned in SWAG?

And once again use of trips are proven to cause brain damage.
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>>52833865
He's just mad that spamming that one model is the only good thing about his army.

It's like a Tyranid player who's not allowed to bring anything but hive tyrants if he wants to win.
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>>52834131
>Gorget
>Ball Ankles
They look much taller too, and are Mk 8!
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>>52834191
Wait... did they really up the scale of the SM models? Holy fuck, how will old school manlet marines compete?
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>Mechanicus is finally roled into one faction
FUCKING FINALLY
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>>52834191
mfw when I fear they change the classic bolter model when I'm almost finished doing mine
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>>52834233
The real issue is the massive amount of vehicles Marines have.
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I'm not crying any tears for 7th edition. The rules bloat was crazy, the convoluted formation in a detachment in a decurion bullshit needed to go, and the balance was all fucking over the place.

As far as I'm concerned, just taking 40k behind the shed and old yeller-ing it would have been an improvement, but this works too.
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>>52834242
Oh god Rhinos will be even more questionable than before.
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>>52834242
Why?
They have been out of scale with the passengers since 2nd ed.
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>>52834239
dumb frogposter
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>>52834233
old school manlet were always shit anyway
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>>52834191
Legs on these models look very bad
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>>52834233
I bet that GW will allow us to use old marines as the new one but will need to be rebased on bigger bases tho
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>>52834233
The same way older-school "Smaller than a modern guardsman" beakies compete.
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>>52834239
My fear is they finally update the look of Chaos flamers to look less goofy and more like the current imperial ones that look like fucking flame throwers.
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>>52834191
Nah, this one looks about the same as old marines, it might just be another pushcat like the start painting 3 marines. The bzck of the lrgs are definitely standard mk6.

However, the marines on his table are indeed different. Termi legs, and mega marines all around.
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How did we come from this to that? >>52834131
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>>52834191
B-but I'm currently building two squads of OldMarines! I-i guess I'll have to cope with them being marinelets from now on...
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>>52834250
Solution:
Land raiders w/o sponsons are the new Rhinos, gaining assault vehicle in the porcess
Land raiders w, sponsons are Predators
Land raider Spartan becomes the new default raider.
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>>52833819
So /tg/ let the fluffpocalypse begin!!!

>If you do want to pick any up, now’s the time – as all of the great hobby content and background information will be as valid as ever.

From this.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/04/22/the-new-edition-of-warhammer-40000-your-questions-answered/
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>>52834233
It feels roughly the same as DW/Tsons desu. Running poses and the lack of Power squats just make them seem bigger.

Of course I could be wrong and we could all be in for it.
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>>52834262
Looks like the new ones are on 32mm bases, so that should be no problem.
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Imperial/crimson Fists & BT models have been taken off their cases for a future publication.
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>>52834276
Inflation, increase in manufacturing costs, 40k stoped being a parody of Warhammer and started getting treated as it's own thing.
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>>52834255
Yeah you laugh but that would be a real pain
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>>52834289
I hope they will be Sigmar Liberators sized
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>>52834283
Space Marines use Crassus transports to move Terminators now.
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>>52834290
>BT get the spotlight
Yes. YES. YEEEES!
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desu, I'm just waitong on my Silent King & Void Dragon models.
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>>52834287
Sauce?
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>>52834168
Where's that picture from?
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>>52834310
We need something...and Drop pods would be nice. Not dread claws, which over hella expensive but good cheap drop pods.
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>>52834303
How big are they, in comparison?
Space Marines always should have been about a head taller than Guard. If they get rid of the squatting, they probably already are, but anyway
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>>52834043
and yet BA forces are better than any of those nowadays.
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>>52834320
full image
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>>52834288
Deathwatch are marginally larger than standard marines, but in relatively unnoticeable ways. The torso is a few mms longer and the waist ball joint's a bit taller. Combined with the upright stance it makes them tower a bit.

>>52834299
You can see the rest of the image, right? neomarines ain't a replacement. Those longbolters are going to have a separate statline and likely some stupid name like boltcaster.
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>>52834324
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>>52834320
Same bro. Any of the C'tan, to be sure, but the void dragon is what we're all waiting for. I bet it'll have sweet vehicle synergy.
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>>52834322
Don't know, but it's the only picture of him on google.
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>>52834320
>thinking you'll ever get a void dragon model
All the current C'tan models are ''just'' shards, and the void dragon was never fragmented. What made you think they'd ever make it you dumb robot ? go back to sleep
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>>52833866
>>52833877
Is the bolter winged skull design an unforgiven thing?
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>>52834341
Thanks anon.
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>>52834168
Jason Statham?
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>>52834324
They are a big guys
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>>52834350
>implying that just because it isn't fragmented now it can't happen in the future.
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>>52834323
Hella expensive real-life money wise, sure.

In game points though, they're actually balaned, unlike fucking 35 points for the loyalist ones.
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>>52834350
>and the void dragon was never fragmented

Matt Ward confirmed that the Void Dragon was sharded.

There are novels where shards of the Void Dragon appear.

The 7th ED Necron Codex has a fluff piece where a Shard of the Void Dragon eats a few worlds.

The fuck is wrong with you?
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>>52834355
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>>52834171
I hope so. Bitching against FW was always stupid
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>>52834191
>>52834257
Hold on.. I recently brought the start collecting kit for Space Marines, does it mean it will be different? The new ones will be taller?
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>>52834354
How do you think he got Kirby to relinquish his place?
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>>52833819

>Have you dumbed down 40K? Not at all.

Kek, gotta hand it to that for including that one, especially the phrasing of the question.
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>>52834375
>standard devastator box in the image
>standard tac marine painting guide set up dead center
Yeah, just toss all your space marines out mate. They're gone forever.
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>>52834375
Probably jus mk8 marines with different poses so they look bigger but really arent.
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>>52834371
desu, probably took a long while to shard Void Dragon. Last I remember before he was sharded, the old ones fired multiple world ending immaterium cannons at at it and just made it sleepy.
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>>52834387
I'll toss you out, faggot.
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>>52834373
It's not even my pic m8
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>>52834047
Oh! Me! I asked for this! Very actively and constructively on their FB pages, I might add.
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Hey guys assembling a Khorne Daemonkin army, I've been crossing over into world eaters territory cause I love the idea of taking 4 units of berzerkers and rampaging across the board.

Anyway, I'm trying to build a list but I'm unsure how I should go about it. I know I wanna take the gorepack+ a juggerlord with goredrinker but beyond that I'm unsure.

Right now I've got
2x Bloodthirster
30x Bloodletters
1x daemon prince (though I have another that is in pieces)
40x CSM / Berzerkers
5x terminators
6x bikers
20x fleshhounds
1x helbrute
1x Knight paladin.

I've been thinking about picking up a few cultists for quick blood tithe points. But suggestions for a list?
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>>52833988
Fuck. Hopefully they at least rolled blood tithe points into the new Khorne rules for CSM this edition. I really loved KDK and running good fluffy Khorne lists that don't need an allied detachment.
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>>52834131
God damn it, I hope they'd be an elite unit. I really dont want my good old marine got irrelevant.
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>>52834420
Don't want to discourage you, but you came right into the announcement of a new 40k edition, so your question/list will probably go unnoticed.
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>>52834047

>we've listened to your feedback
>riptides still op, everything elfdar still op, grav guns still op
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>>52834287
Would have been funnier if they were painting up little regular dudes from our world.
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>>52834396
lies m8
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>>52834441
Fantastic.

appreciate the honesty instead of just ignoring me though.
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>>52834441
Also, his army isn't shown in the new 40k page
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>>52834131
If they release new terminator models I will REEEE so hard.
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>>52833819
>Why should I trust you?
>Come on! This is New Games Workshop™
I don't feel any safer.
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>>52834452
Old terminators are trash, space hulk looked much better.
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>>52834451
It's probably mixed in with chaos like they were when the book first came out if they are overhauling the site.
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>>52834452

I hope so, the loyalist termie kit is nice but is massively showing their age. They need more details and bits on them. They are just too plain. Been holding off on buying any for my small SM force for this reason.
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>>52834456
Door
Ass
Way out
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>>52834456

Haha the trademark... is that a wink wink nod nod trademark or a corporate suit mandated 'don't forget the trademark' trademark
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>>52834191
>>52834131
>finally muster willpower to finish painting an year old army
>new miniatures teased

and that's why I never do anything but I claim I will do things. fuck me.
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>>52834468
I like how they are somewhat plain, could do with more leg variation but the idea of moulding on loads of extra details seems a step in the wrong direction.
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>>52834452
Mate the old Terminators are old as shit, just like the command squad. New Termies will be gladly accepted.
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>>52834468
>>52834485
Why not go a different route and add lots of extra bits to the sprue that you can freely add?
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>>52834131
>>52834131
>>52834131
>It's clearly a kitbash
>are you blind? it clearly uses parts w,x,y,z from other models
>you can obviously see the greenstuff right there

Anyone want to fess up and admit they were wrong?
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>>52834477
Pretty sure it's banter.
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>>52834459
>>52834490
Should have specified, if they release new Deathwing terminators.
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> Why should I not just stick with current Warhammer 40,000?
> This is the version of Warhammer 40,000 you’ve been asking for. We’ve listened to your feedback, and we really believe that this is the best Warhammer 40,000 has ever been.
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>>52833928
BT kit was like the first plastic kit to have MkIV bits. It has a helmet and a torso.
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I've been interested in learning WH40k (and DnD) but none of my friends are interested. There's a small place near me that plays both, and I see people talking about it on their facebook. How do I assert myself? Do I post on their group "New player looking for WH40K and/or DnD group)?

What should I expect to buy and pay? I read all the WH40k books and have grown to love the emo ninja Ravenguard. I don't see any models for them on GW's website.
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>>52834511
but why are the feet a different colour?
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>>52834475

>Pretending they gave enough information to know if this is good news or not.

This release is the ultimate trial by fire. GW have been clawing back trust since years of Kirby then the AoS launch disaster. And it's been working, they have been taking steady steps in the right direction.

But ultimately, this is it. This is the make or break product release that tells us whether they've genuinely got their shit together, or they fart out a second AoS release and implode all credibility.
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>>52834324
Heroic scale uses a different scale for vehicle, MCs, and infantry that pic isnt accurate.
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>>52834511
So it's safe to assume they'd be elite unit ?
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>>52834532
it's almost like image distortion can fuck with colours a bit
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>>52834523

Believe in something, nigga
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>>52834232
They just stopped them squatting
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>>52833955
2 days, you can likely return them and ask for a refund.

say they were a gift for a friend, turns out he's already got them.
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>>52834131
Are these tru-scale marines? Because they do look a bit taller
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>>52834511
Only one admitted to being wrong about S/T3 wulfen.
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>>52834557
But I got them on GW's webstore...

Like I said, I'll likely keep them for collection and fluff purposes.
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>>52834531
Yes, you could just ask. Maybe paint up a small force so you can start playing with your own miniatures.
You have to paint them up yourself, if you want Ravenguard. Maybe there are some upgrade kits, but they're usually just for the more popular chapters, like Ultramarines, Dark Angels and Blood Angels (Unless you go to Forgeworld - they have Marines in all flavours)
Get a Start Collecting! Box, and the go from there. Maybe download the codex if you want, but since there's a new edition on the horizon, you really don't need to buy one.
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>>52834531
For raven guard?

Assault/Veteran Vanguard, Scouts and Land speeders are their main thing.
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>>52834181

Can't wait to get a few.

This might be the first time I ever buy a starter set for 40k.
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>>52834557
>>52834572
>But I got them on GW's webstore...

I will assume you are in the UK.

in that case you are protected for 30 days under the Consumer Contracts Regulations, and are legally entitled to a refund on return of goods. GW, as a provider are legally bound to accept any return, as long as it is in unused condition.
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Kek
FAQ about new edition of warhammer
>https://warhammer40000.gw-hub.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/04/New-Edition-of-40K-FAQ.pdf
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>>52833866
I swear to fucking god after all the Amping up they did with the Iron Hands they better be the starter.
THE FLESH IS WEAK
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FAQ:
https://warhammer40000.gw-hub.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/04/New-Edition-of-40K-FAQ.pdf
Official site:
https://warhammer40000.com/
Trailer Video:
https://youtu.be/3A3G6JcLn24 [Embed]

"three ways to play"
"general's handbook"
"all previous rulebooks and codex invalid"

looks like we Age of Sigmar now.
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>>52834613
Unfortunately I don't, I only bought it online because shipping was free and my FLGS didn't carry the rulebook or the codex.
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>>52834624
"New Games Workshop"

why do I just think "its not expensive, its alt-cheap".
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>>52834076
Glory be then! Because Sigmar actually improved so much
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>>52834624
>>52834633

Yeah, we've all seen it, it's in the fucking OP.
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>>52834601
>>52834575
So... what do I do?

What's a an upgrade kit? Do I need glue and paint? Where do I buy it from if not GW? Where do I buy Space marines if not GW? Where do I buy them from? How much should I expect to pay? How much do I need to start?
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>>52834633

>dwarves in power armour

So this is the power of Age of Sigmar...
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>>52834651
Only a few of the character models get some form of power armor. Everyone else has just environmental pressure suits because they make their homes above the clouds
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>>52834647
I fucked your mom in her OP
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>>52833866
I don't know why but I thought that the loyalist marine was a Storm Warden at first.
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>>52834634
then where are you? US?

federal law provides a "Cooling-Off Rule " giving buyers three days to cancel purchases of $25 or more. Under this rule, the right to cancel for a full refund extends until midnight of the third business day after the sale.

your individual state might give you rights too, though that's variable.

Europe? the same Consumer Contracts Regulations apply regarding your right to return.

You sound like you are wanting to complain, but unwilling to actually learn what your own consumer rights are. Which is fucking stupid.
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>>52834167
Can't get cheaper then free, at least.
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>>52834650
>Upgrade kit
Don't bother with this for now
>Glue and paint
Yes. Go to the WIP thread to find out which brands you might need.
>Where to buy
Ebay is good, or if you have a local games shop nearby you can go there and see what the prices are like.
>Expect to pay
~50USD for 10 basic troops, more for special troops, vehicles and commanders.
>How much to start
You can get a single box of 10 Marines and play Kill Team.
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>>52833819
Anyone got a link to last thread? I want to see how people reacted to the announcement
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>>52834651
WFHB dwarfs had steam powered power armour.
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>>52834670

Shut up.
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>>52834694
The reaction was surprisingly positive. If you're looking for rees you won't see many.
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SISTER NOT GETTING SQUATTED!!!
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Man, and I was just about to drop real money on building up a Emperor's Children force.

Gonna have to wait to see if they'll still be any decent in this new edition, or if they'll be cut entirely.
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Well this is certaintly interesting
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>>52834633
The best thing I heard this year. And it was my daughter's birthday 2 weeks ago
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>>52834704

There are already rumours of Fulgrim coming back so new EC models are expected alongside his release.
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>>52834694
They went to the new thread.
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Are we going to get plastic Aspect Warriors of what
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Convenient for me; just finished Nurgle Daemons for AoS - now Death Guard is on the way, I could really use that
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>>52834718
I can't fucking wait any longer for plastic berzerkers. They need to roll Angron out already so I can skip those duckwalking abominations.
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Fuck my life, I'm bulding an Blood Angels Angel's Blade formation right now. And they'd be irrelevant by the time I'm finish.
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>>52834698

Post the models of these WHFB steam powered power armour dwarves armed with assault cannons and chainfists. I'll wait.
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Single AdMech faction
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Did we learn a single new thing today?
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>>52834731
>Blood Angels
They were irrelevant even before you began.
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>>52833955
Dude did you do any research? I feel for you but thats just dumb considering literally any 40k community has been overflowing with 8th ed is coming stuff for a while now.

You should try and get your money back or at least an in store cred to swap to models.
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>>52834727
>Not going with the Pale courts for even more Aspect Warriors
Oh well, I guess we all have to prepare for 8th.
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>>52834690
Thanks!

Any ebay red flags you think I should be aware of?
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>>52834634
>>52834685

Canada does too if heres a northern anon, hed have something like 2 weeks to 30 days to return it in good condition no questions asked.

I dont know the time limit its a lot longer than 2 days though.
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>>52834685
I live in Taiwan. What's the consumer rights laws like here?

I mean, I'm not going to get too uppity over slightly over a hundred bucks, I'm just disappointed that my brand new codex and rulebook won't see light of battle.
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>nu marines get released
>mfw autists get mad at me for putting them in mk1 rhinos
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So my group's moving up from 1500 to 1850 point games for the summer (although this may get BTFO given the announcement) and I though I'd give my mech-guard a rest and try a new army.

The intention is that it would be a company of pre-heresy Dark Angels who have recently been spat out of the warp on some Calibanesq knight-world and have started up a new Order to deal with the beasts (thus causing friction with the knightly houses and the social upheaval the fallen are known for)

also mean I can use them in 30k games some of the guys have been talking about

Also quite cheap to buy because I'd just need Betrayal at Calth, a handful of forge-world parts and e-bay dark vengence cultists

What do you guys think?
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>>52834744
I learned several, YMMV
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>>52834816

I didn't see a single piece of new information in the edition announcement.
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>>52833905
>tfw 1500 points of MT on the shelf I'm still painting up

>>52834744
I learned that hope leads to disappointment
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>>52834780
Pretty basic stuff like
>Don't buy things already painted
>Check sale price and shipping to make sure that you're not paying more than in a GW store (Asia problem)
>If you're buying them on sprue or unassembled, make sure they come with the bases
You could try finding your 10-man Tactical squad sprue this way, there should be plenty of them floating around as people sell parts of the Kill Team box set they don't want.
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>>52834744
yes. Pirate pdfs and buy from yoyhammer :^)
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I see nothing wrong with this picture
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>>52834847
That's your loss.
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Bloody FAQ they posted just 404s on me.
Is this Zuvassin's rage for NZ getting updates early?
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ITT we laugh at powergaming faggots who bought 10 books to play their fallofcadiaspacemarineangelsofdeathimperialknightimperialagents army last year
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>>52834744
Don't not-trust the rumors just because shitty sites like BoLS cart exaggerated versions of them around.
>>52834857
>BLACKED
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>>52834857
>girl plays fucking nids
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what are the odds that they will ever add a new faction to this game? Not talking like adding mercs cause that is the cheapo way out
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>>52834857
>politically correct picture
>black guy playing tabletop game
>girls playing tyranid
>both look like they don't want to be there
>scenary poor as fuck and unimpressive

did I miss anything?
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>>52834857
> Grill.
She must be lesbian right ?
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>>52834857
those electric fences are long out of production
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>>52834857
I sure as fuck do.
Not enough terrain, poor playing height, rolling dice between models.
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Combined arms with Astartes and Guard? Can't see the issue with that
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>>52834857

>black guy playing 40k
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>>52834882
Fucking Battle for Macragge set painted in the wrong fleet and chapter.
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Yeah nah, looked again t the trailer, and it's definitely not black but dark green on the loyalist. DA get the starter box again I presume. Oh well, Ultras got it as well.
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>>52834887
Nah her boyfriend told her to come, she's absolutely not enjoying it but catches the chance to make innuendos to tyrone here, who is not fat.
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>>52834887
No, probably an MtF
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>>52834857
>table too high to measure distances
>opponents on the same side of the table
>black guy playing dark angels
>4th edition starter set in 2017
>single rippers on small bases what the fuck
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>>52834857
Continuing the weird vibes from the Warhammer Community top banner. Well the former one, since it seems they replaced it for the announcement.
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>>52834857

The hand gesture is significant
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>>52834857
She needs to read this book. Her technique is a fucking shambles.
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>>52834625
What amping is this? I love IH but man they don't even have a special character. Cant see GW pushing them.
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>>52834857
Looks like chubby-young Sophie Turner
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>>52834881
Here's your (you)
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>>52834782
>I live in Taiwan. What's the consumer rights laws like here?


If you are too fucking stupid to research your own consumer rights in the country you live in, then you are a fucking idiot.

https://luatcanhtranhvabaovenguoitieudung.wordpress.com/2011/06/01/taiwan-consumer-protection-law/

you have 30 days to return.
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>>52834922
New here, Wasn't Smashfucker an Iron Hand?
Yes I browse 1d4chan
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>>52834857
Nor do I
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>>52834915
>>black guy playing dark angels

I dont see anything wrong with it.
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>>52834894
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New marines
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>>52834932
Even for products bought from overseas? I know about the 30 days think but it being an overseas purchase is what confuses me.
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>>52834225
Except he wins regularly with the DE against SM, CSM, and Eldar. He's just come up against the one thing that can properly belt him, because he doesn't get cover saves. He also refused to shoot at the Pathfinders, because they had 2+ cover from shrouded. Still, he could have dumped shots from the million Venoms he had running around and blown at least half that number off the table. He's just...I don't even know, man. It's like all of his previous tactical sense has left him. For fuck's sake, he even flat-outed his 5+ armour jetbikes into my deployment within rapid fire range of the Fire Warrior gunline. It was depressing.
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>>52834965
Oh boy oh boy MORE MARINES
>basic CSM still look like shit
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>>52834955
>not even salamanders
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>>52834965
No more "rode a bike over jagged rubble for four days to get here" splayed legs?

Oh wait there they are. Carry on.
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>>52834972
Fuckit. you are too stupid to look for yourself.

No, you are now condemned to have $100 of product you will never use to sit on your shelf as a reminder for the rest of your life that you are a fucking moron who needs everything spoon-fed to them.
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>>52834963
A
FUCKING
MUG
>>
Fuck yes!!!!!
Also, tourneyfags and grognards B.T.F.O.!!!
Bwahaha
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>>52833819

>FAQ
>Why should I trust you?
>Come on! This is New Games Workshop™

maximum kek gee dubs
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>>52834965

>b-b-but marines are already tru-scale!!!

btfo
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>>52834791

Oh boy will that trigger me but I think you'd have to be a turbosperg to get proper annoyed by it either for advantage or just dumb.
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>>52834944
Smashfucker is just an equipment load out of an IH chapter master not an in lore character.
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>>52834511
This nigga.
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>>52834531
>How do I assert myself?
Find out if your local shop has a "free/open play" day and find some folks playing then ask if they dont mind you watching as you are new to the hobby, shoot the shit/ complement their models as icebreakers.
>What should I expect to buy and pay?
Varies greatly but a 500pt army will suffice for smaller casual games so expect $200ish to start
>No Ravenguard on GWs site
Any normal space marine kit comes with a multi-chapter decal sheet that features the Ravenguard but you'll have to go out of your way if your want your boys to all don the beak but most bitstores arent too pricey and they should be easy to find. If you want an example of a starter army of Ravenguard you could get: Shrike, 2 boxes of assault marines and a skyhammer tactical squad for about $150usd which will make 500pts while reaching the mandatory unit obligations with room for the Ravenguard flavor to shine through.
All this being said 8th edition is out soon so do not buy any books but you can get your models ready for the 8th edition launch and beginner friendly events sure to happen
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>>52834963
Incidentally, this is where the Black Bro Salamanders meme started.
>>
Start Collecting Slaanesh when!?
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>>52834944
>implying GW would name a character "smashfucker"
>being retarded enough to fall for this
>this is your average 1d4ddit fag
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>>52835057
#ASK GW
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>>52835065
I know he wasn't named Smashfucker. I was just asking whether his actual name was a real character.
Admittedly though, if they did have a character outright named Smashfucker Iron hands might actually get attention.
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>>52835057
>Slaanesh tucked away by the scrollbar on the new website

GW must really be ashamed of the Dark Prince.
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>>52835065
>t. Assholetep
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>>52835130
Your autistic /b/-circa-2012 safespace is the other way.
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>>52835147
CHK. RRRRRR
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>>52835157
>DAE LE TROLL LE DERP LE RAPE XDDDDD LE ANGRY MARINES SO FUNNY XDDDDDDD
>FAILBADDON THE FAIL XDDDDDDD RAGE XDDDDDDDDDDDDD MATT WARD XDDDDDD
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>>52834047
40k currently is the WORST version in it's history. I quit 3 years ago because of 7th rules being completely unbalanced shit pile
>>
will orks be good now since the i2 meme will die?
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>>52834531
>>52835050
Actually, there was a horrible flaw with the list I gave you as it didnt account for wargear options. A better list would be: Shrike as HQ, 2 Scout squads as Troops, and 2 Assault squads for flavor. This would be much more lore friendly and easier to expand upon when you decide to move up into a higher point bracket while also letting you play Shadow War Armageddon using your scouts
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>>52835176
Should I post this under the RAGE page?
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>>52835196
Orks are an inherently shitty comic relief kid appeal meme army so no.
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>>52834927
I dont get it?
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>>52835196
It died in sw:a, fear of the greentide is real
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>>52834192
That sounds pretty consistent with what has been released. Probably like Codex: Imperium and then there will be newer, more specific books when they're ready to release a whole range of models for a new faction

(plastic DKoK when)
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>>52835214
Post it under the Macha page because LE ETERNAL VIRGIN XDDDDDD SO LE FUNNY AMIRITE

DAE LE LOVE CAN BLOOM IS LE SO LE AWESOME FELLOW FA/TG/UYS? XDDDD
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>>52835235

Shouldn't Macha be dead now? Didn't Biel-tan's gaff get exploded?
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>>52835215
>Orks
>shitty in any way outside of competitive-ness
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>>52834965
Biger vers.
Notice the image top right?
Same image as the leaked Space Marine we saw 2 months? back.
Same pose. New bolter too.
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>>52835276

Fuck off with your shitposting you silly cunt.
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>>52834888
Really? Damn I thought they were new.
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>>52834131
At least I finally get a reason to feel good about having the idea to upscale all of my marines a little, even if it takes a little more time to build them.
I've got 60 in total as i bought both of the 30k sets, these are the most finished ones apart from the single one painted...
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>>52835289
LE WEEABOOS LE RAPE RAPE RAPE LE GETS SHIT DONE LE BIG E MONEY LE EXTRA HERETICAL

XDDDD

Ok I'm done summarizing the entire 1d4chan wiki for anyone who wishes to spare themselves from that relic of dead humor.
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>>52835276

what
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>>52835306
In teams easier on everybody else here.
"I hate fun."
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>>52835310
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/FATAL
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/PROMOTIONS
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Racial_Holy_War
https://1d4chan.org/wiki//pol/
The exact pages referenced in that post.

>>52835323
>when spamming dead 2012 memes is considered fun
Hello 1d4ddit.
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Total newb here. So I've been discussing my Sisters of Battle army in the making with you guys in the last couple of threads. I've only purchased some character models I really like and will paint regardless of if they're good enough for actual play, and one squad of Sisters with an Immolator.

Should I hold off on further planning and purchasing until new rules are released? Do I need to wait on a new Sisters codex (which I hear are sometimes years in between)?
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>>52835283
What is the point of bigger but blurrier ?

Well just hope that they are an unit so I dont have to change the bases for my old marines.
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>>52835176
>>52835235
>>52835276
I would like to apologize for bringing up 1d4. I didn't know this would happen.
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Nice, nice...
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>>52835358
Hold out hope, friend. Plastic sisters may yet be upon you.

In all reality though, the new rules are coming this year and will be updated annually. So just pick whatever.
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>>52835374
This is why we cant have nice things. People like that.
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>>52835358

I'd hold off on metal minis, chances are new plastic sisters are coming.

As it is you can kitbash them from the available bits (Triumvirate/Immolater crew etc), cast whatever you need using blue stuff.
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>>52835358
Alright, right now 7th ed, sisters are a pretty middle to middle high tier army.
The reason people are telling you to hold off is we don't know if plastics are going to become available, or if 8th will even treat them well.

Right now if you wanted to go buy a codex for them you pick up forces of the imperium because minus celestine it's pretty much the same codex as their site PDF + all the Inquisition stuff.

Were I in your shoes I would probably wait unless someone put up a really good deal for a sisters army....Maybe take that unit and play some SWA with it.
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Do we know who the characters are that speak in the trailer?
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>>52833860
>'E ain't listenin'!"
Why are orks so fucking based?
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>>52834131
So its been removed from the site.

Big Boy Marines confirmed?
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>>52835446
It's a mix of all those other trailers.
TS, GC, Deathguard, all three Gathering Storm and so on.
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>>52835488

Where the fuck was it to begin with?
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>this is New Games Workshop™
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Are Alliances confirmed?
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>>52835504
new-to-40k/paint/

It's different now. They must have noticed us.
Should have guessed when the FAQ stopped 404ing for me.
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>>52835456
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>>52835337
>Jar of Jacking Off: "Whenever a male opens this jar, they must pass a Drive sub-ability check at TH 80 or be compelled to force their fuckstick into the jar. Once inside, the jar will inexplicably grip it firmly and jerk it to completion, even against the will of the opener. Upon completion, the cummer[sic] must roll percentile dice. If the results are 01-10, then the jar becomes pregnant. If the jar is pregnant, it will not allow itself to be opened, but will care for the fetus within, which will be heard screaming by others within 1d100 feet day and night. After 9 months of fetal torture, the child will be born and the jar will break. If the jar is broken during its pregnancy, then the dying and twitching fetus will explode after 1d6 rounds of twitching. The explosion will cause 1d4 Life Points of sonic damage to all within 1d4 miles. Baby parts are inexplicably everywhere. When born, the baby will be Unethical Immoral (translation: Chaotic Evil), will serve the father loyally, will obsessively collect jars, and seem to be male but have no penis, but oversized testicles, which can never ejaculate. Therefore, this child will be forever frustrated. Any child of a jar will insist that others call them “Chucky."

I'm fucking dying.
I'm both horrified and happy I read this.
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>>52834131
Are they the new marines that Guilliman and Cawl create ?
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>>52835385
>So just pick whatever.
From what I'm hearing, it sounds like this is the direction the game is taking anyway. Especially for those of us who probably won't ever be in a serious tournament. The challenge for me is always finding the balance between what figures are the coolest and most fun to paint, and what's actually useful.

>>52835419
I do like the style of the current figs. So I hope plastics keep the same aesthetic.

>>52835425
Looks like I won't be spending more money until there's at least a little more info about what may be coming this year. Thanks.
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>>52835511
Yes. Chaos (so really two factions), Imperium (everything cool, because fuck you for not playing Marines), Xenos (which makes the least sense).
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>>52835535
Honestly I kind of hope so.

That way my current Astartes don't look like children in power armour.
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>new edition
>no big expensive brb
>maybe assault will come back in force?
>matched/unbound stuff
>slaanesh not squatted
>both sisters mentioned
>closer then we think

i'm willing to admit i'm hyped about this
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>>52835535
Seems it, although they still look different to the armour style in the other piece of artowrk
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MFW just getting into the game again since 5th, then suddenly, new edition.
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>>52835554
Are you fucking kidding me?

Xenos? I was shitposting with the Xeno Allegiance, but I can't believe GW actually did that shit.
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>>52835562
On the plus side we can use Oldstartes to make Interex.
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>>52835511

Read the Blood Angels faction entry.
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>>52835581
That's just how the website is categorising them I hope. From the Imperium's perspective.
You're either with them, or a Xeno-loving Heretic in need of the big stick.
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Rolled 5 (1d6)

>>52834124
Daemonic Possession! Will my 300 pt Dread get eaten before it lands?
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>>52835628
Of fucking course
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>>52835610
"Created during the First Founding, the Blood Angels are one of the oldest and proudest of all Space Marine Chapters. They are well known for their bloodthirsty zeal, favouring close combat and the use of jump packs, and for their unceasing quest for perfection – from the flawless execution of a battle plan to the aesthetics of their wargear.
Yet for all their nobility, the Blood Angels are deeply marred. Since the death of their winged Primarch, Sanguinius, the Blood Angels have been haunted by a curse that drives them to death and madness. Although feared and mistrusted by those they protect, the Blood Angels continue to smash the Imperium’s foes, compiling a battle history second to none."

OK?
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>>52834744
Horus Heresy is going to continue using 7th Ed rules. GW aren't just squatting supplement-armies.
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I'm not buying anything til I get a rules PDF
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>Ynnari is a legit faction

ohno
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>>52835366
Because you can see the painting guide marines too?
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>>52834857
>Almost no terrain
>Nothing wrong
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How do I not get sucked back in

>HOW DO I NOT GET SUCKED BACK IN
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>>52833928
That looks like a Bionicle
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>>52835694
its too late. Its already drawing you back into the hole.
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>>52835697

It's not a bionicle, it's an epic meme
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>>52835708
What's the difference?
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>>52834191
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>>52834531
Raven Guard player here.

First off, I'd wait a bit before buying any books, the new edition is about to be released and it seems it's gonna shake up the game a bit.

It's ok to just walk into the store or write a fb post looking for someone to play with, many people started that way, and most veterans will be glad to help ou a bro.

Space marine models come all in a generic box, you can paint them and build them iin whatever way suits you. The basic box that you'll have to at least buy one of is the Tactical Squad Box, comes with ten dudes. If you want to play small games or save money, that's all you need to start playing.

This is a somewhat expensive hobby. To just start, expect spendinga bare minimum of $100 between models, paint, tools and misc supplies. There's a ton of ways to save cash, like buying used models, different brands of tools and using whatever stuff you already have.

>>52834650
An upgrade kit are extra pieces for a model that are used in order to further customize it, for example, shoulder pads with a chapter's icon molded on them or special helmets, etc. These kits are often made in resin and come at a premium cost, they're more expensive and their only value is aesthetic. Having said that, they're the easiest way to make your army look unique.

Yes, you do need glue and paint, the models come unassembled and unpainted, and at first you might be overwhelmed, they might be smaller than you thought and the whole painting process can be intimidating. Go to the /wip/ thread they'll be able to hold your hand a bit through the first steps.

All space marine models are made by GW, however, you can buy from them or third party retailers, which sometimes are easier to reach and may provide cheaper prices than GW.

>>52835050
>Any normal space marine kit comes with a multi-chapter decal sheet that features the Ravenguard
Nope, the decal sheet included only has Ultramarines icons.
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>>52834333
>>52834287
Sauce pls?
>>
>IMPERIUM
>CHAOS
>XENOS (FUCKING WHY)

CHOOSE
YOUR
ALLEGIANCE
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>approximately $200+ of unpainted and another $100 of unassembled 40k shit lying around
>about to order a single box to play SW:A
>dumped $300 into star wars armada because it's a much more fun game and I don't have to paint anything but squadrons
>planned on never coming back to GW aside from armageddon
>suddenly 8th edition
>ancient hype engines beginning to rumble
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>>52835760
They're on the GW 40k website.
Like this one.
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>>52835838
lol thanks!
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>>52834535
The new CEO is running GW like a business.

The old CEO, Kirby, ran GW like a death march to bankruptcy.
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>>52834242
You know, I find the vehicle formations in the codex kind of silly, as they often seem to call for literally the ENTIRE CHAPTER'S MOTOR POOL! At least, if the fluff force organization charts are correct.
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>>52834257
If they get any bigger they'll have to use vehicle/MC rules for cover saves!
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>>52835768
So, we, the Necrons, have decided to end our galaxy spanning conquest to regain our former glory, and ally with our mortal enemies the Eldar, because some monkeys on another planet somewhere decided to group us all up so that they would need a few less ordos to deal with us. Because of this, we are now buddy buddy with Orks, one of the bio-weapons made to kill us, and Tyranids, a scourge on the galaxy. Why is that, Phaeron? Well, bureaucracy, of course, my dear Overlord.
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>>52835928
>nade pin in his mouth
FOR THE EMPEROR
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Why has this thread not been dedicated to Yvraine queen protector of the Imperium of Man, I must correct this HERESY!!!!
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>>52835941

Shit I never noticed that about that image
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>>52835971
Literally just the footfag fetish character.
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>ynnari is the fourth new eldar faction
>not exodites
FUCK
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>>52836001
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>>52833936

Xenos has the drop down of all the xenos, so it's not like it's actually a unified side unless dark eldar and Nids and Orks are working together.
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>>52836023
Footfaggotry is top heresy, yeah.
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>>52835928
>and ally with
no

I'm not sure why you're throwing a fit about something acknowledging that necrons are indeed an alien race.
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>>52836030
please send us your address so that a local arbiter can assist you citizen
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>>52836001

B-Based GW
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>>52836044
I don't need assistance from fucking footfags, you're more degenerate than the slaaneshi worshippers.

>>52836049
If there was an equivalent to gas chambers in the Imperium you'd belong in it.
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>>52836033
People kneejerked hard when they listed Aliens as Aliens, with no implication of alliance.

No heretics complaining about being lumped in with their opposite god's worshippers.

Looks like we found the real separatist snowflakes.
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> http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2017/03/40k-rumors-guilliman-planning-new-space-marines.html

If the rumour were true then perhaps the new marine might be a faction on their own.
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>>52835581
>Are you fucking kidding me?

Yes.
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>>52836094

Robertmarines?
Guillimanmarines?
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>Skiitari and Admech are merged together

FUCKING
FINALLY
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>>52836115
Son of Guilliman.
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>>52836094
>might be a faction on their own
Doubt that, considering they were just rocking 3rd company ultramarines colors.

Some kind of pseudo-veteran unit was my guess back when that first leak happened.
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>>52834333
>"Hey, baby, how about a handjob around the back?"
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>>52836132

I like it but you need it shorthanded like sigmarines. Girlymarines?
Gullymarines? I kinda like that.
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>>52836086
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Can't wait for the Grand Alliance: Imperium book

Can't wait for the Grand Alliance: Chaos book

Can't wait for the Grand Alliance: Xenos book
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>>52836180
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>>52836144
That is not too bad.

I expect them to have crazy point cost and Custodes tier status atleast.
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>>52834341
>Hordes Warcaster
>Druid Wilder
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>>52836180
a little better then those battletomes with only 3 or 7 units in them. really GW, you couldn't be bothered to fill it out more? vampires are now like 8 factions
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>>52834857
>2017
>using Battle for Macragge models
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>>52836285
The only one they were willing to sacrifice in case Jamal decided to act up.
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>>52833866
The inclusion of the Crux Mechanicus on the left side makes me think Iron Hands.
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>>52836285
I'm sorry, did you mean the new "40k-in-a-box™" kin? Containing 35 highly detailed, easy to assemble Citadel miniatures.
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>>52836296
>AYO MUHFUGGA WUH DIS WAH HAMMAH SHIET YO DEEZ TINY ASS GREEN NIGGAS LOOH FUNNY AH FUH YO
>Why do we even put up with this shit John? Isn't he going to break something if he handles them like that?
>Just shut up and take the photos, we need this to appeal to the new cultural diversity audience
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>>52836088
Of course Chaos isn't complaining about being lumped in with Chaos. At least they're all made out of the same warp stuff. Tzeentch and Nurgle are more closely related than Eldar and Orks.
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>>52835941
>Thinking one frag grenade will be enough to take out a Necron Lord.
Typical Fleshlings.
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>>52836150
Guiles
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>>52836014
What are the other three new eldar factions?
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>>52836462
DE, CWE, Harlies.
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>>52834857
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>>52836472
How are they new?
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>>52836512
they're not, you just misread the original statement. ynnari are the fourth eldar faction and they're new.
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>>52836512
I think anon meant that Ynnari are the new, fourth, Eldar faction.
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>>52836525
Well technicall yit was written wrong.
>ynnari is the fourth new eldar faction

>ynnari is the new fourth eldar faction
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>>52834047
7th is ass. 8th will be slightly less ass, but still ass.
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>>52834639

i mean. lore debacle aside, it improved a couple of things. it also fucked up other things. overall it's still the bones of the same shitty system. some light sigmarisation isnt going to revitalise it
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>>52836598
Hp do you know it will be ass, Oh Great Grognard?
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>>52836596
yeah, I saw that too. Understandable mistake I suppose.
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>>52836598
That's fine by me. Personally, I can't get away from 7th fast enough.
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>>52836596
>Ynnari is the fourth, new, Eldar faction.

That's how I read it.
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Is Testor's a good primer spray for minis?
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>>52834511
Massively different to the marines in the photos
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>>52836646
What's the problem with 7th exactly? Serious question, been away since like 4th or so and just started reading up on rules again around the beginning of the year.
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What are you hoping for for your faction in this edition? Personally i'm hoping for more variety in C'tan for Necrons. If they just give us a general blank shard model and then let us paint it or customise it to be one of the different C'tan, then provide rules for each in the Codex, i'd be pretty happy.
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>>52836671

It's like 20 years of bloat added to the 3rd edition framework. Mostly though, poor balance, too many extra systems bolted on (Superheavies, flyers, an idiotic new psychic phase...)
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>>52836665
There, fixed for your autism.
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>>52836665
>long bolter with ribs on top
>bulbous bits on the ankles of the greaves
>similar backpack
>similar gorget
>similar knee pads
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>>52836717

More anime looking mecha
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>>52836664
Use KRYLON camo spray for primer on plastic models
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>>52836664
Nobody really cares for testors paint but there shouldn't be anything wrong with the primer
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>>52836717

Just don't squat IG please GW I love these guys so much
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>>52836717
Not much if I'm very honest. I play Carcharodons and Black Templars. I wouldn't say no to better plastic kits for BT but other factions have a lot more things overdue. I'll be happy for SoB, CSM, or IG if they get actual proper plastic kits, same for Eldars and Aspect Warriors.
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>>52836650
It's also how I understood it, but it's good practice to read and write accurately in order to deal with GW's rules writing style.
(He says making several grammatical errors.)
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>>52836496
kek
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>>52836758
>inb4 orders get canned
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>>52836758
>Read before you weep edition.

Seriously featured factions are on the trucking warhammer40000.com site.
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>>52835575
Same, brother. The other codex I have is the 2002 Space Marines one, I wanted to get into the fad again and what a time to do so.
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>>52836758
People need to thinking GW squats factions left and right. The squats were take out in the very early stage of 40k, when nothing was settled like it os yoday, and they were taken out for a very specific reason.
Crying squatting at every corner is just annoying.
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>>52836758
AOS Freeguild says hello.

>empire has never seen an update since AOS launched and it looks like they never will.
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>>52836806
Need to stop thinking*
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>>52836775
I do too, but I'm no grammar Nazi. Unless I misunderstand something and they go on autistically screeching at me for not understanding their terrible English. At that point I'm more than happy to give them some tips on what was wrong with their post and how someone can get the wrong idea, and how they're responsible for making sure people understand them, not the people reading their drivel.
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>>52836758
IG are the most iconic non-Marine army in the game and are pretty much the reason Forge World is a thing. They won't get squatted, just given a stupid name.

Still better than however you spell the new Eldar name.
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>>52836836
>IG get renamed
>WELCOME THE NEWEST INCARNATION OF A BELOVED FACTION: THE ROOTY TOOTY POINT AND SHOOTIES.
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>>52836806

>geez people are anxious about their shit getting squatted why the hell is that the last time GW did that was with Squats back 20 years ago hurr durr

Stupid Idiot
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>>52836872
>What is Astra Militarum
>>
>>52836872
>still no plastic "kill us by the dozen for the empra we ain't no heretics" kit for the "rooty tooty point and shooties"

feels bad
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>>52836806
Well, that's good news for TK and Bret players that their factions are secured for the future. Shame about not having any models...

And Specialist Games weren't factions, so we'll just ignore them. And BT still exist, in a way. But rest assured they're not going anywhere, right guys?
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>>52836811

IG are 10x more popular than Empire ever was
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>>52836872
You don't know yet? Oh, my sweet, sweet child. Here, take a seat. Papa needs to tell you something.
>>
>>52836949
10x0 is still 0. Enjoy being the loyalist Space Marine cultists in the next codex.
>>
The GW site looks so snazzy right now. It makes me feel warm and cozy, like feeling of first entering GW store.

Aaaaaaaand I'm bankrupt.
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>>52836872
>Astra Militarum

Also show respect to the bravest men and women of the galaxy!
>>
>>52836636
They have teased changes at Adepticon - basically that they're just copy pasting a few sigmar rules across in an attempt to streamline the bloated system. Sounds alright in theory because sigmar rules improve in some areas - but they really are really just the same shit with the same inherent flaws. Needs a bigger rewrite than GW are willing to commit to.
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>>52834857
She looks like a Genestealer Hybrid
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>>52837010
That art feels way to clean. I dislike lines of standing guardsmen. Even Mordians have the first rank take a knee, if not having the first rank firing from prone, the second kneeling, and the third standing.
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>>52837060
Jamal doesn't stand a chance. Flash a peek of thong and he'll dance back to her lair.
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>>52837100
if i'm not mistaken that's an updated (or at least expanded) picture from 3rd/4th edition with some digital coloring
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>>52837100
That one is really cool

This is one of my favourites, the photographer tried to emulate World War 2 pictures and scenarios with the models

Imo did a pretty good job
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>>52834919
Holy fucking shit I spat out my water.
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>>52837154
It'd look a lot better if the photographer didn't add those fucking terrible fire effects in post.
>>
Anyone got the link to the White Dwarf dropbox?
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>>52837226
You mean the old ones?
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>>52837226
Nevermind, 4plebs is working now
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>>52834894

I chatted with two black dudes who played Chaos and Space Wolves. They were cool yo. Had a talk about the state of 7e.
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>>52836990
>codex
Anon...
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>>52838248
Well, do show evidence that the name "codex" is gonna get buried from the game.
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>>52834982

tau is literally the worst matchup possible for dark eldar because they are an army that depends on cover and they don't get any vs tau ever.

your friend knew this, decided he couldn't win the second you brought the army and gave up.

I don't blame him desu, fuck tau, its not even that they're strong insomuch as they are literally agony to play against unless you bring daemons and rape their face with army wide 4++ using the tzeentch decurion
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>>52836717

Vect and his pimp mobile.

A super heavy flyer that is monstrously upgunned

a super heavy transport that looks like jabba's sandbarge

PLASTIC ASPECT WARRIORS AND INCUBI

PLASTIC GROTESQUES

AND AN EXPANSION ON THE HAEMONCULUS COVEN UNITS
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>>52834982
>>52833865
>friend switches to Tau
>throw game
>use game as example for skewed balance between factions
>Excuse to never have to play Tau again
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