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Sailor moon Celestine when edition?

>previous thread
>>52819784

>Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android.
https://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg
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>40k rules reference in wiki format.
https://sites.google.com/site/wh40000rules/

>Latest GW teases
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000/

>Latest GW FAQs.
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-JP/Rules-Errata

>40K 7th Edition Quick Reference Sheets:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4104995/Games/7edRef.pdf

>List organizer picture book
https://webapplications-webroster.rhcloud.com/rc/web/#/rosterCreator

>Offline list builder
https://battlescribe.net/

>Forge World Book Index:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Forge_World_and_Apocalypse_Rules_Index
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>breacher shields have ultramarines insignia
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>Tfw want Soulreaper cannon on rubrics
>Need 10 like new boxes
>Running old boxes, 9 models
I keep screaming and Tzeentch keeps laughing
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*deletes wraithcannon*
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>>52826562
WHEN?
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>MFW I will never be able to dive deep into Celestine's tights...

Why live anons?
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>>52826655

Rubrics should be house-ruled to be the same cost as Sternguard vets.
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>>52826562
What happened to the Black Library link?
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>>52826691
Like 2 months ago.
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WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE NEW PLAGUE MARINES ?!
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>>52826764
Probably on the Plague Planet.
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>Manticore/Deathstrike will never be back in stock.
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>>52826717
I'd be happy enough if Sorcerers could roll on Divination. I figure sure, Scarab Occult Sorc can roll on it to try and get Perfect Timing. Having Ignores Cover on TL-AP3 bolters, hellfyre missiles and a soulreaper cannon would be brutal. But fuck paying for an ExSorc footslogger to babysit them for that purpose.
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Is it worth putting upgrades and shit on a CSM rhino besides a dirge caster?
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>have about 45 DV cultists to paint
>Not even my main army, which is still mostly unpainted
>Sincerely enjoy painting my tanks, but nothing else
Maybe I should just switch to Guard tbqh
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>>52826819
Dozer blades
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What was the last model you painted?
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>>52826755
Doesn't seem like they released all the figures for the units yet though.
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>>52826876
Pic related

>want to run Sisters of Battle
>can't stand metal models
>resin isn't much better
>recasting and 3rd party options aren't great
>Sisters of Silence come out
>Decide do a kitbash

They even had cloaks like I wanted and everything, perfect for an Order from a Forest world. Only done one so far, but I think it'll work out
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>>52826876

I've been slacking.
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>>52826876
This for my valhallans
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>>52826876
Batch painting my Tau, so finished a bunch of details on 5 Fire Warriors couple hours ago. Next time I'll highlight them to finish them up.

This mah scheme.
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> TFW DOW3 scouts look better than the actual models
Kill me please. I fucking wish geedubs had scouts that looked like this.
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>>52826876
Besides re-doing the force weapons on my GK, the last model I painted was Rowboat for my friend.
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When is the next nid edition come out?
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>>52826819
Combi-meltas can be useful if your rhinos won't be getting focused.

Extra armor is decent to make sure your rhino can always move, as that's their main purpose, and most guns can penetrate their armor.
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>>52826876
Working on this RN. Being bad at painting is suffering
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>>52826935
Heads too small doe
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>>52826933
Fug, realized that's before I cleaned up the grey on the pathfinder. Anyway, this is them.
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>>52826944
Not for a while
Pray 8th will help nids out a bit
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>>52826819
Dozer Blades and a Dirge caster if you just want it as a Transport. Combi-melta if you want it to pack have some extra threat and kill something after delivering its payload. A Havoc Launcher can make it into a pseudo-razorback, but you should probably only do that for a more backline Rhino
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>>52826876
err guardians and dire avengers back in march, i got a vyper i need to finish. i should build/buy/paint into my 1500 list but eh i don't play much
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>>52826876
I have neglected that part of the hobby badly of late. I haven't been able to finish a model since last year. The lack of motivation is starting to get to me
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>>52826903
>no advance whatsoever
Seriously anon, give them To me, I'll give them better use than you.
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>>52826935
They do look better but then again >>52826953
Is right
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>>52827137
>>52826953
I'd take some kind of scouts with either better proportioned heads, or some kind of helmet. But the armour design is wonderful. I'd have to give it to this game for the attention to detail on a great many things.

Personally my only beef with this so far as the beta is concerned, is I'd like to see more generic heros for other people. It feels so wrong to have Gabriel Angelos leading the Raptors that I just outright refuse to use him.
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>>52826562
Reposting from previous

What's the best way to use a thunderfire cannon, deployment-wise, and then on deciding targets and ammo?

Also, any critique on list appreciated
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>>52827192
I'm not sure why you're so conflicted anon, those scouts were clearly gifted to the blood ravens.
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>>52827088

Hey, I put paint on another one, but it's not finished. I have a hard time getting motivated.
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>Greyfax got the Eye of Night
Just wander into the warp and stay a demon prince.
>Yvraine got the Hand of darkness
Just wander into the fucking garden of nurgle and ruin his ornaments
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>>52826876
Muh talos
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Is there any reason a Knight would be painted up in Inquisition colors? I managed to get a good deal on a Renegade box with my friend and I want to paint it up to go with my GK.
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>>52827475
Do it faggot, it's your model
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>>52827496
Good response. It's name will be "The Righteous Indignation".
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>>52826876
currently working on the second half of the team, just been bogged down with taxes
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>>52827220
Absolutely change that Redeemer to a Crusader and then you'll have a list worth a damn. As for Thunderfires, they basically set up in terrain that gets a +1, and just stay there and delete whatever you don't want to deal with today.
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>>52827380
>Tiberium crystals

Muh nigga
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>>52827220
I'd change the chest mounted weapons as well to the bolters
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>>52827653
I was supposed to, but forgot. Thanks for reminding

>>52827580
So I should bolster the terrain for the cannon, not the scouts for +2 cover?

Or should I put them both in the same terrain?
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Can anyone share Hand of darkness spoilers?
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>>52826562

Newbie here. Is this ok for 1000pts? I only have Celestine, Veridyan, Immolator, and one squad of Sisters so far, so it's not to late to make big changes.

And why do regular Inquisitors who aren't named characters count as HQs instead of elites? I like the idea of having an Inquisitor attached to each of my Sister squads, but don't think I can make it work.
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>>52827994

Veridyan only really works in gunline lists. I'd count her as a Canoness with Cloak of St Aspira to ease damage on one of the battle sister squads.
Switch the Immolator Weapons for Multi-meltas to cover a wider target range.
I'd switch the Avenger for either an Exorcist or a Dominion squad in an Immolator.
The Seraphim and Celestian are amazing anti-infantry units, so try to make the rest of your force more anti-vehicle focused.
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>>52826876
Painting right now. Veteran with a power sword.
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URGENT: Hey 40kg I need pics/scans of the instructions from the new box of custodes or the talons of the emperor box. Not the ones from the prospero box, as it doesnt show all the wargear options. I need em tonight so i can finish building my army for tomorrow.
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>>52827994
Not a sisters player but 2HQs is usually unnecessary at 1k points. If your HQs are insanely strong or you need them for some special strategy it's doable but don't see why you've done so here.

Inquisitors count as HQs because they take a leadership role of detachments similar to a cannoness. For example in the recent Gathering Storm release, the primary leaders of the Imperial forces were an Archmagos of the mechanicus, Creed, and an inquisitor. Inquisitors can also be found leading Grey Knights and are able to use inquisitorial authority to commandeer IG detachments, Space Marines, and yes, Sisters of Battle. It does not make a lot of sense for Space Marine Chapter Masters to be fast attack choices and inquisitors have more authority than that.
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>sailor moon
Fuck off gay.
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>>52828191
There's a big repository on reddit of all the 40k/30k instructions. Some quick google fu and you should find it pretty quickly
>inb4 reddit
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Can someone give me a noob's rundown of why a LR crusader is better than a LR redeemer please?
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>>52828312
Because God-Emperor Wills It!
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>>52828087

>The Seraphim and Celestian are amazing anti-infantry units, so try to make the rest of your force more anti-vehicle focused.

I see. I had flamers on everything since that's sort of the Sister's thing. So something like pic related would do better? (Still using Veridyan model for the Canoness of course.) Or do you think two HQs is to many?

>>52828223

I mostly got them because they're such nice figures. I could always just paint one separate and not include her in the army though.

>Inquisitors count as HQs because they take a leadership role of detachments similar to a cannoness. For example in the recent Gathering Storm release, the primary leaders of the Imperial forces were an Archmagos of the mechanicus, Creed, and an inquisitor. Inquisitors can also be found leading Grey Knights and are able to use inquisitorial authority to commandeer IG detachments, Space Marines, and yes, Sisters of Battle.

Thanks for the info!
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>>52828328
Aite den
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>>52827983
Hahahahahaha get fucked my nigga
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>>52828312

I say the Redeemer is better for damage potential, but the Crusader has a transport capacity of 16 as opposed to the Redeemer's 12.
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>>52828392
I only have 10 slots worth of things to carry around for my list.
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rate my world eaters homebrew
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>>52828441

Well the Crusader is easier to use, but it's sponsons are hopeless. 12 S4 shots at 12" will hardly tickle your opponent.
The Redeemers sponsons are much more powerful, but lack range. So on your first turn you will either:
>Move 12" and pop smoke
Or
>Move 12" and 6" flat out in an attempt to make cover
On turn 2, your cargo should have left and try to assault something. At this point the land raider is now operating independently and is trying to wreak havoc until it finds itself in the wrong end of a Meltagun. Because the 2 sponsons are on opposite sides, it's difficult to target 1 unit with them. That's when Power of the Machine spirit kicks in, and lets both sponsons shoot separate enemy units as long as it moved 6".
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>>52828522
>DoW3
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>>52826876
Doing Arch Angels Orbital force and taking it slow.
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>>52828522
Actual colors are decent, armor's too clean, well-kept and shiny for world eaters. I would have thought with the chaos Knight Titan skin as a preorder bonus that chaos marine skins would be in the game too.
What do pre-heresy colors look like?

>>52828634
Open beta this weekend probably.
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>>52828652
Per heresy world eaters are white with blue trim.
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>>52826933
>>52826962
Ready to conquer the sewer world of Pooloo VII.

But nah it looks tight.
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>>52826876
Working on a six-man Harlequin troupe plus their Starweaver. Got another layer of green to throw on the 'weaver and then I start on the base color for the other half of the quartering.
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R8 and H8 reposting because some idiot wouldn't shut up about nurgle bikes.

FYI you have to take a single bike/raptor unit and I don't own raptors because they are for edgy NL fags.

CAD is Word Bearers so I can make use of malefic without using the Daemon book allows me to take my converted Chaos Knight.

Local Meta: Eldar, Dark Eldar, Tau, GK, Sisters and Marines
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>>52828817
>there are people that actually mix legions within a single force
Wew lad.
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>>52828705
Was looking for the guy playing DoWIII's opinion on the color scheme.

As is his 'world eaters' look more like a BA successor chapter than chaos marines because they both have the same color palette.
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http://vocaroo.com/i/s1agcPqyEPFo
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>>52828817
Right. There's also that rule that your Chaos Lord has to take a Bike too.

>some idiot wouldn't shut up about nurgle bikes.

Then maybe you should stop trying to call that person out and ruin yet another thread with this autism.


That aside, list looks fine.
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>>52826669
As much as I want Guard in this game it just cant work with the balance.

You can shoot Orks in the dick though. Thats neat
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Currently sitting on some Kataphron servitors and belisarius cawl I bought with my paycheck. I've got a bunch of skater but I'm new to the Admech side of the equation. I know grav-gun destroyers are what everyone raves about, but aren't torsion cannons and arc guns good against riptides and Knights respectively? What does the Grav do that they don't?
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>>52826876
These 5 today
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>>52828893
God I hate fighting orks with their god damn noob tube
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>>52828893
Everything I've seen posted with that game makes it sound like the balance already isn't great.

That said, I think you could potentially add Guard to the game, though you'd either have to make them Catachan Scion Vets so they could just be the absolute top tier of guardsmen, or have it function as some sort of builder class where you order NPC guardsmen into positions and have them function as weak turrets.
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>>52826876
Some Imperial Fist centurions I haven't even finished. I'm sorry brothers, I just haven't found the time.
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>>52828857
It's because I need better crunch to run this guy

>>52828880
Biker Lord looks too good. Plus I've had this force since 5th, I made the lord half way though 6th ed
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>>52828817
What rulebook is Death Guard Vectorium from?

The links in the OP suggest that the current chaos marines book is still the 6E book and in that one VotLW isn't worth the points.

On a more amusing note: what part of that army is word bearers? I see all nurgle and a random Knight of Khorne.
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>>52828978
Traitor Legions.

The book includes why I "assigned" the CAD as Word Bearers. It's basically just so I can get a 10 point book to get 4 spells on the Daemon Prince.. that's all
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>>52828978
How long have you been out of the loop? Traitor Legions book added new rules for all the major Chaos legions.

All of them also have VotLW mandatory and free, along with other bonus special rules.

The CAD of his force seems to be word bearers, since the other warband formation is Nurgle only and doesn't have the spot for the Knight. Word Bearers also have a nice Daemon summoning Relic
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Hey anons, how dumb of an idea is it to put a tricked out Company Master with a Jump Pack and an Interrogator-Chaplain with a Jump Pack inside a 10 man Assault squad with two Eviscerators, two flamers, and a vet sergeant with power sword and combat shield for taking challenges?

It's like, 400 and something points I think.
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>>52828978

Traitor Legions. In it, pretty much every traitor legion gets VotLW for free.

Also Death guard get relentless and feel no pain for free.
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>>52829010
If that's what you want to do it is't a dumb idea at all :)
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>>52829010

It's cool, but most super tryhards would tell you it's points inefficient. Especially a vet sergeant with sword/shield, that's like around 50 points for a model with a 3+ save and 1 wound.
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>>52826876
Painted these boyos last month. Been too busy to have done another set. But soon...
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>>52829010
Dumb depends on your meta and opponents. If you apply internet meta logic (everyone is netlisting tau / eldar /daemons) then it's a terrible idea
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>>52828817
>i-i have to take bikes f-for fast attack guys
>w-w-w-what? w-what biker lord?

>a-also ignore my 2+ shrouded nurgle daemon prince and my chaos knight
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>>52828817
It's time to stop posting your shitty list now
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>>52829061
That's the spirit!

Also if this triggers you can I come to your store so I can tone down the list. We all optimize lists at the club
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>>52829076

>I need better crunch to run a daemon prince because the most obviously broken traitor legion isn't good enough for me

>painting detail is hard, better slap shit all over everything
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>>52829076
>bothering to "base" the model when you're not even going to do something with the rim
It's so fucking ugly holy
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So my fellow ork players, redpill me on Kommandos, they actually seem useful if you just shove big shootas in their hands and load them in a trukk
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>>52829031
Thanks, anon.

>>52829047
Yeah, it is pretty inefficient indeed.

>>52829053
I don't play right now, I just downloaded the DA codex because I thought they were cool for a first army. All I know is that my friend wants to do a Deathwing army, iirc. Could be cool to paint our dudes up with different company markings.

What battle company should I do my dudes in?
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>>52829187
they are just boyz that take up an elite slot. Spend your elite slots on things that are actually useful, like burna boyz, tankbustas, or MANz
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>52829264
>namefag
>retard question
Ignored.
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>>52828611
Thanks, that was really helpful.

With smoke launchers, is the best you can hope for being 5+?
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>>52829264
your dumb question gets you a meme
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>52829304
No it's just a retarded question that you'd know the answer to if you knew the lore, and I'm not giving a (You) that you oh so crave.

>>52829317
>giving him a (You)
Cute gril tho.

Let's not derail this thread.
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>>52829015
>Reads Traitor Legions
>Sees Thousand Sons as a troop choice not requiring a Sorceror Lord
>AP2 Daemon weapon so the lightning claws on my lord aren't useless
>sweats profusely
Holy fuck my first army is once again tabletop legal.
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>52829351
No, I'm responding to you, I'm just not giving you a (You).

So got anything going on other than bait?
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>>52829364
but poo
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So what models do y'all have sitting in front of you right now? At my desk I have
>40+ DV cultists
>hammerhead, Fireblade, 2 broadsides, a few drones, a Remora drone
>a terminator squad, homemade librarian, Calgar
>Blackreach warboss
I need to clean my desk
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>>52828817
List looks solid. Didn't see much in the way of fat to trim.
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>>52829381
2 Drop Pods, 3 Centurions and like 20 BT Crusaders.
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>>52829223
can you do checkering and quartering?
If so, 4th or 5th
If not, 3rd. 3rd is best anyway.
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>52829389
That you're giving me all these (You)'s and you have none, kek.
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So I'm looking through some options for a first army, glanced through the SM/CSM books and just wanted to verify I didn't miss anything. It looks like space marines get pretty hefty bonuses if you pick a commander and chapter to unify them, but chaos has no such bonuses? Are similar ones available through other means, or is CSM's alternative just a combination of chaos marks and being able to ally demons?
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>52829427
>retard detected
He predates turks, nigga. His people historically looked more greek than anything.
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>>52829378
They're my OC warband. Every unit is modeled according to what loadout looks best. I have other armies to win with.

The Sons of Iron were built for fun.
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>>52829464
Yeah, SM are mostly better than CSM, especially since they're the series flagship or whatever word I'm looking for. CSM do get Legion rules in the Traitor Legion's book, however, which are pretty similar to chapter tactics.
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>>52826933
Don't normally like camo on tau, but that scheme looks pretty decent. Shame they aint pathfinders tho 8/10

>>52826942
No qualms at all on this guy, looks like you worked hard on him. 10/10

>>52827065
nice smooth coverage, well painted white and it goes well with the purple. Don't like the red wings, but that's just the colour choice, not quality 9/10

>>52827380
Nicely painted, great lighting effects and neat base, edge highlights are a little thick 7/10

>>52827548
Really dig the silver and heraldry on the fourth one, needs a couple highlights on the guns/leather and some cool bases 7/10

>>52828641
More stages required, but the red looks smooth enough unfinished/10

>>52828931
Needs more colours on rope, shells, bombs etc but I like the "ghost" camo colours. Also drill your barrels and base em, ya git. roomforimprovement/10

>>52829049
Those look fucking sweet. The blue, gold and flames are smooth and well executed, the bases are great in that they don't overwhelm the models. Undrilled barrels on finished models tho 9/10

>>52829076
...
You are the reason people don't like DG bikers. Shit like this is all everyone gets to see.
reroll or kill yourself/10
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>Space Wolves: Wulfren Edition
>Blood Angels: Red Thirst Edition
What is in these that isn't in the originals?
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>>52829503
Cool, thanks. That was generally my impression, just figured I'd confirm it before going any further.
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>>52827065
That's an interesting looking dude, I didn't know that Sanguinary Guard could have Apothecaries, but it makes sense. What chapter?
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>>52829264
>>52829389
>>52829427
>>52829505
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgHNtzxO0y8
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People talking about DG bikers, how do people feel about proxying suitably daemoned up fantasy warhorses as bikes for CSM?

Thinking of picking up a Slaves to Darkness SC box for kitbashing and conversion purposes and that would be the most sensible thing to do with that shit, as far as I can tell.
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>>52829569
naw, nurgle would gift his nurgle guys with slugs, bugs, or something with cloven hooves
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>>52826876
Been painting some plagueboys. The one being dragged along by a nurgling friend is the one I'm working on currently as well as the purple one in the background.
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>>52829569
I've thought about doing something like this, but it always bugged me that I'd be fielding a specific unit type (cavalry) as something else (bikes). I'm sure casual players/your friends implying wouldn't mind
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>>52826700
Because you can wank to the thought
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>>52829569
My bikers ride Demigryphs.

My bloodcrushers are Tzaangors riding the new Gryph Chargers

My Flesh hounds are Gryph hounds

Tzeentch bitch, fight me
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>YFW DOW III beta is boring as fuck
I don't understand what people see in this trash game
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>>52829601
>arming DG with the CSM combat knives
my
fucking
nigga

Paintjobs great across the range but the bases don't sit well, dry cracked earth with swampy goop? I don't get it, but it's a personal thing.
9/10, keep it up
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>>52829662
Don't insult my paint scheme simulator
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>>52829565
That you're a huge raging faggot, and you'll regret tripfagging when /tg/ points out your autism. Nobody gives a fuck who you are, just post anonymously like you're supposed to. Your name means absolutely nothing in the discussion.

The only reason anyone would ever need to to use a tripcode on /tg/ is if they're DM'ing a Quest Thread.. Which aren't allowed on /tg/ anymore
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Is the multimelta worth taking on a LR redeemer?

Seems like you are really only ever going to shoot 2 weapons at full BS
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>>52829730
Nobody gives a fuck. This isn't /fit/, this is a board for discussing everything 40k and monstergirls related
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>>52829550
The file name. A homebrew Warband that who's lord is known for eating geneseed
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>>52826655
>not using superior plastic rubrics in glorious mk iv armour
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Ignore the shitposting, attention-seeking tripfag. (you)s are valued currency here. Don't dole them out so haphazardly.
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>>52826884
I was starting to wonder if they'd shelved the Thousand Sons models, until they finally released the Castellax-Achea last week.
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>>52828909
in the case of riptides, it hits on 2s. In the case of knights, it immobilizes. Arc rifles don't do anything to riptides as they are MCs.
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>>52829671
Thanks man! I fucking love the combat knives too I'm lookin forward to painting some more of those guys but got plaguebearers on the mind for the time being. What would you recommend for the bases by the way, like texturewise? I'm intent on keeping the goo but I'm a novice on basing in general.
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>>52829636
To be fair the flesh hound models are awful. I personally use Chaos Warhounds
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>>52829951
Texturewise painted sand or any of the texture paints are fine, if you want something Nurgly you could go for a marshland sort of base
>texture of any colour
>leave puddle shaped gaps
>water effects in puddles
>shittons of grass tufts (healthy in water, dead/dying on earth)

or, if you wanna keep the goo an easy alternative would be something like this (if you haven't seen it already):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcPIG0TUeTo
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>>52829827
>not just adding his trip to your filters list
It's like you don't filter every single tripfag you see by default.
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>>52830005
>using warhounds as flesh hounds
mah boiiii
>>52830024
I like to give em a chance to not be cunts before doing that, on the off-chance they have something worthwhile to say
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>>52829010
hey, I have the mini to this image!
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>Ah finally a non-cheese tau list full of just the units I want
>actually if some of these units take marker lights then these seeker missiles
fuck

is it even possible to have non cheese tau without intentionally making a bad list?
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>>52826691
When Book 7: Inferno came out?
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>>52830056
Wot chapter
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>>52830059
It's pretty easy to make a non-cheese Tau list. Just run a CAD, don't take a Buffmander or Marker Drone commander, skip on larger battlesuits as a whole, and then don't run Crisis troops.

That still gives you a fuckton of non-cheesey options for making a good army.

Really, to intentionally make a Bad list as Tau, you have to do something really dumb like Ethereal spam.

Granted, I classify 'bad list' as 'would lose to Orks on a regular basis', so take that as you will.

If you're asking if it's possible to still make a Top-tier Tau army on par with Eldar, Marines, and Tzeentch Daemons without cheese, then no, because all of those armies take their own cheese to get to that level.
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>>52829049
Gonna be painting some soon! Any tips?
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Do Black Templars use terminators? If I wanted to learn more BT lore, should I download an old BT codex, or has a lot of that stuff been retcon'd?
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Why are CSM such cunts?
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>>52830157
Why do faggots like you go from thread to thread asking the same retarded questions?
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>>52830143
have a lamp of some sort nearby/well lit area
use a palette to control the amount of paint on your brush instead of glopping it on
always twist the bristles to get a nice fine tip on ya brush

alternatively, see pic
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>>52829662
MOBA and Starcraft fans love it. Then there are also the shills.
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>>52830152
Yeah they use termis. Literally every chapter uses everything available to them, perhaps not as much as other chapters and vice versa, but every chapter has everything available to them, which is why it pisses me off when people say certain chapters wouldn't use X when they and almost every other chapter would have access to them and use them as codex compliant chapters. In this case, Black Templars are known for their lack of a Librarius and preference for Land Raiders and Vindicators.

A lot of their stuff has been retconned, yes.
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>>52830168
Just answer the question.
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>>52830139
I guess there are different levels of bad

trying to do something weird with your list and finding it doesn't work is one level of bad

having obvious optimizations available within the units you chose and not taking them is another
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I want to run the Eldar SC! with my Harlequins from Deathmasque. Does this look like it'd be fun at 1000pts?

Note: I'm known for being anti-WAAC at the flgs - is there anything I should tone down?
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>>52830152
Just download the 4th ed codex, its the same fluff as their 3rd ed armageddon supplement but expanded upon and its the most fluff you'll get for them.
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which army do you think will get the first 8th edition codex? Or will 40k go pdf warscrolls like AoS?
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How strong are city walls in 40k, how are they defended and what does it take to put a hole in them.
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>>52830201
Well, if you're worried about taking Markerlights and seeker missiles, I would say that isn't really Cheese. Doubly so if you're taking Pathfinders for the Markerlights and aren't just running one of the ways to get high BS Marker Drone squads
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>>52830211
>Armageddon supplement
>Ork Speed Freakz
>Bomma strafing runs
>Battlewagons without the 0-1
>Battlewagons with purchaseable KFF

Zog me boss, I didn't want dis feel
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>>52830212
My guess is every unit profile will be available for free in the form of warscrolls and all the current formations will still be usable until the next campaign book that replaces them.
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>>52830214
Depends on a lot of different factors. Some places just have pretty typical walls, others are more fortified. Depends a lot on the faction.

Generally though, if you want to blast down a fortification, you'll need a pretty heavy gun to damage it in any meaningful way
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>>52830139
Pic Related, it's a non-cheese 'Good' tau list.
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>>52830212
Fingers crossed for Orks, or maybe IG. Odds are it'll be something Space Marine and something Chaos, though.
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>>52830264
>120 str 6 ap 3 shots a turn
>not cheese
Alternatively
>60 breachers
>good
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>>52830265
Orks or Nids would be nice, a non-uppity bad guy xenos race. After the thousand sons and traitor legions books I don't think it would be Chaos, SM wouldn't surprise me though.
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>>52830265
>Orks get first 8th Ed. Codex
>wind up like Blood Angels who got the first 7th Ed.

You Xenos don't deserve that!
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>>52829804
>A homebrew Warband that who's lord is known for eating geneseed
That's Slaanesh as fuck. Got a good chuckle out of me.
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>>52830224
I'm the obnoxious anon who has been posting that shitty list consisting only of drones and tanks
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>>52830059
No. People on /tg/ will bitch at you for taking anything good, but people don't actually sperg out about riptides in a list irl.
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>roombas of death
>modeling for advantage
I don't understand how not being able to fire over cover is an advantage
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>>52830236
>Emperor's Champion was actually useful

I miss his buffs.
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>>52830305
worry not anon, there are others who are far, far more obnoxious. like the retard who won't shut up about DG bikers while posting his DG biker list.

you're among friends here.
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>>52830311
once upon a time drones could both jink and go to ground, allowing for a 3+ cover save anywhere on the table
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>>52830264
Seems fine to me. You've got durable skimmers that can Jink to easily deliver their payloads. Those same Skimmers are also going to have a S 5 Heavy 4 gun that ignores cover and line of sight for taking out hordes of infantry, along with a pair of gun drones to add to that.

Their payload is a unit that needs to get within 5" for a buttload of S 6 AP 3 shots. They're basically assault transports tossing fragile, high-initiative Power Lance troops at the enemy.

You've got the Stealth and Crisis teams for a bunch of Fusion Blasters, meaning tanks won't be any sort of issue. You've got Pathfinders with Markerlights to help you make sure these other squads take out key targets.

And to top it off, your Warlord is a FMC, making him pretty hard to kill, helping to avoid your opponent getting slay the warlord.

This would do just fine against a lot of armies. I could see it being more than a match for Sisters of Battle, and they're solidly Mid-tier.
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>>52830251
What kind of gun? Also are walls are common things or exclusive to hives and fortress worlds?
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I asked in a previous thread but got no responses, so once more: Anyone know of good recasts/stand ins for Battlefleet Gothic models?
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If I take a Tempestus Command Squad in a IG CAD does it issue Scion Codex Orders or IG orders? Can it issue them to itself or other IG units?
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>>52830320
Me too anon. I wish BT's "fall back towards the enemy" rule wasn't a warlord trait, and that WE still had the Blood Crazed rule.

Combat marines are a myth now
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>>52830311
>Use jetpack to move over knee high wall
>Shoot
>use jetpack to hide behind knee high wall

It takes jump-shoot-jump to another level when you can do it with a small pile of rubble instead of needing an actual wall.
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>>52830324
>>52830305
Annoying IF tard who is obsessed with asscents here, you are amongst pesky friends
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>>52830345
Those sorts of heavily armored walls would be the thing you'd find on Military outposts, Fortress worlds, and anywhere else that was really up-armored. The outer walls of a Hive might apply, as well as the main supports, but most buildings in it less so.

As for the scale of gun, you'd be looking towards the likes of Krak Missiles at a minimum I'd say. Melta weapons would be the ideal.

Potentailly, weaker stuff like a Krak grenade could put a hole in it, but it wouldn't cause much significant damage to the structure as a whole, and you'd need a lot of those in order to properly make an opening to breach through.

Power weapons could also potentially carve their way through with enough time, but that would be akin to slicing a circle in a heavy door with a lightsaber like in star wars.
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>>52830353
IG orders

you only get scion orders if they are from a formation or detachment of scions
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>>52830345
Hive worlds are usually completely covered in cities and large structures, so yes walls are common, though rarely would they be defensive in nature, more likely just structural, or to create a boundary between neighborhoods
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>>52830345
Here's a description of some of a Hive Cities defences.
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>>52830019
Thank ya kindly for the advice! I'll look into bettering the bases up with this info.
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Are Grav pistols on SM Sergeants in squads with no other grav in them worth the points, or should I just stick to a bolt pistol? also
>tfw can't give Crusader Sword-Brother a stormshield
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>>52830469
Not really, you miss out on the volume of fire that makes grav so good.
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>>52830143
Duncan's video tutorial on how to paint Thousand sons is the definitive something something you could need. Otherwise just spray them liberator gold and touch up with some the same. You don't want to even consider starting blue and painting the trim, you got your whole life ahead of you!

I also suggest leaving the bolters off and paint separately so you can paint the chests easy.
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>>52830342
Which is exactly what I'm going for. An army that is actually fairly decent, and would do well in a tournament. But it isn't a Rapefest of horrifying cheese. On the other hand it isn't a push-over.

I'm sure this list would do well with a solid player
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>>52830469
Only if the team has a Plasmagun or the like and you're planning on hunting MCs with them. And even then that's just because it'd be better than a Plasma pistol.

Pistols on sergeants in general aren't too worthwhile. Better to spend the points on a combi-weapon that matches the unit
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>>52830527
Yeah. I really do stand by that it's hard to make a bad Tau list on accident. Even just going in with some sort of plan for how you want to build it will give you something usable.
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>>52830387
>>52830414
>>52830438
Thanks everyone. Would an Orbital Defense laser have a wall protecting it?
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>>52830347
Shapeways tends to have some people selling 3d printed stuff for bfg, but I heard you want to get frosted detail or ultra frosted if you want good looking models, but at the prices they'll be at you might as well hunt down the rare minis on ebay.

These guys also offer cool looking ships: http://www.battlegrouphelios.com/

Good luck building your fleet though, its a fun game.
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>Alluress and Bloodreaper stuck in melee
>daemonettes and bloodletters destroyed
>2 rounds without hitting each other or being interrupted by warp storm
It's boring but I imagine it'd look cool to watch the two go at each other for real.
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>>52830396
So can they issue them to the regular IG troops?
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>>52826876
Heres a picture of my newest Dreadnought, couldnt decide what to do with the chest windows, so I just left them bare.
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>>52830603
IG isn't my main army but I am pretty sure they can

they are an IG unit like any other when taken that way

the scion orders are so much better though
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>>52830593
those thunderhawks are cute

did they ever do them in metal, or are those the forgeworld ones?
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>>52827354
Grey knights are able to extend their aegis to the hull of their strike cruiser
But somehow they are happy for greyfax to use a daemon guide
And somehow a flower of isha appears in a place claimed by slaanesh which turns a thousand sons portal to tzeentch realm into a non invasive portal to nurgles garden
The second drama was too short though and also the visarch is being changed in background
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>>52830614
Going with more of the same as you did on the leg plates would be good.
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>>52829804
>eating geneseed
I like how in Black Crusade, there's an item/special drug/food called Sweet Meats.

It's roasted geneseed, and is said that even the most depraved of CSM would find it despicable to even think of, as geneseed is the only way they can increase their numbers
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>>52829010

Listen to your heart, anon. I always run my assault squad with a vet sarge with a power axe and combat shield. That combat shield has to this day never done anything but it looks rad as fuck
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>>52827983
Girlyman uses the astronomicon to send a messsage conference call to eldrad who adds yvraine in
She acts all superior to humans but eldrad acts as conciliatory and she apologises
There is something called the Great Rift - not sure if it's just the eye or something else
They recieve a psychic email of a pay construct with a piece of tigurius soul who briefs them on the mission
They go to the black library but it's under siege from Ahriman a white seer briefs them - visarch is hated because he destroyed some chaos knowledge
They would have stopped Eldrad ritual if they had known (strange as harlequins helped Eldrad)
There's a sealed off bit of the library taken over by perevert God after the Great Rift
Ynnead exists beyond the warp in the void of death and is gathering souls
Bieltan exarch and most ynnari help with siege whilst rest go into sealed section where they are tricked into attacking each other - yvraine is haughty about her chosen position and visarch is too secretive about his past >>52827994
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>>52830825
>She acts all superior to humans but eldrad acts as conciliatory and she apologises

>Eldrad
>Not being a dick
What is this madness
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>>52827517
Wasn't that the name of Bucky O'Hare's Ship?
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>>52830844
Eldrad can have manners, and use diplomacy when it suits him. At this time it seemed useful to be polite, one leader to another. Not like he was bowing to or lower than supreme blue (balled) general of the Imperium.
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So I am starting a dark angels army, do I put the bike librarian in a group of 3 black knight or do I have a librarian and a group knights separate?
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Hey dudes I don't know if it's an Ork or just a regular Orc but does anyone have that Ork Macho Man Randy Savage picture
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>>52830897
He's an independant character, so you can, yes.
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>>52830825
Cont.
Somehow find a flower of isha there which back outside she uses to both summon the yncarnate and twist the portal after the thousand sons run away - the flower is left by isha footstep and not seen since the war in heaven
Somehow they get through the garden of nurgle without respirators lol and running quickly from stuff - the garden links to the plague planet
They go inside a plague manse but avoid the monsters because nurgle is too lazy to be active against intruders
No mortarion appearance
Hand is stuck onto a female skeleton sheltering her baby's skeleton from some weird plague bone giant which is asleep
Yvraine wrenches off the hand which makes the skeleton scream waking the giant but visarch smacks it about and they leave
It was okay but
Eldrad made to sound like doddering old man trying to keep the peace
Asyduras is alive? And predicted and told the black library yvraine would come for help and what she would need
Craftworld ynnari still have waystones
Too short - eye of night parts were all 2-4 minutes longer and it shows especially the end of the part 3
And wtf is the Rift? It sounds more like a new ruinstorm possibly the Blood Oath extending the eye in a line to Terra and disrupting communication
My guess is guilliman will do grand theft auto on Hurons black stone fortress and push the Eye back by draining its warp power leaving millions of warp tainted worlds to be reconquered and cleansed by all races but also letting chaos legions free to roam
This will also involve mortarion and the plague planet since that's coming soon and possibly dark angels due to their link to tyhpus etc
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How would you guys change this list?
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Brown guard anon here, I had a game against a friend's Renegades and Heretics. It was close but he won the day by objectives.

Does anyone want me to post more pics?
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>>52830971
>Asyduras
Who's that?
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>>52830971
Thanks dude!
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>>52831040
Don't care much for pics, but would like your opinion on how R&H compare to IG. I have an R&H army and a friend of mine won't stop bitching at how my artillery and tank squads are cheaper. He's also convinced that I can take any IG model and run it for less despite proving otherwise.
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>>52831029
Can't have both a plasma gun and a melta gun. One special and one heavy per tac squad per 10 men. One special or one heavy at 5 men.
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>>52831083
Kysudras the anchorite - sorry it's audio and can't always tell
Looks like he was returned to life perhaps? They talk about him in the present tense it seems
Anyway this looks like a Death Masque thing setting up for the next trio of books
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>>52831121
Ah thanks friend. I though the site would give me warning if I broke rules. Which do you recommend? Plasma since I am DA, or Melta because of heavy units?
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>>52830971
>push the Eye back by draining its warp power leaving millions of warp tainted worlds to be reconquered and cleansed by all races but also letting chaos legions free to roam
Honestly, as new status quos go, I really don't mind that.
Still not 100% on-board with a universe where Imperium and Eldar work together on a regular basis, but, probably way better than completely smashing the setting apart for Age of Emprah.
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Just started 40k. Am I going to be that guy if I field ONE flyrant with double devourers?
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>>52831140
Nah, the site is just a very simple builder, which is why I prefer to just write my stuff down by hand.

Plasma will do fine if you're not planning on shooting vehicles, melta is what you want if you want to destroy vehicles. The real question is what do you want to do with your tac squad? Since you don't have them in a pod or with Rhinos, I assume that means you're going to walk them to objectives, so I say go with the plasma guns since they have the same range as the bolters and are Rapid Fire like them as well.

You might want to check over your codex just in case that list builder has any miscosted or illegal combinations.
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>>52831174
Depends on the points level, above 1k go for it.Questionable under 1k. Nids are, sadly, a weak army right now
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>>52831174
I field one with wings, grubs and the devourer+lashbone combo. Its not as competitive, but people dislike it less than cookiecutter double devourer, and occasionally they've forgotten just how terrifying a tyrant is when its charging and they've left something soft exposed for me to mince.
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>>52831162
Makes sense if they also have chaos able to freely move about so we go from Cold War with raids to Total War
It's always been insinuated that order factions could wipe the floor with the others if they cooperated but that they only do so when extinction is right in their faces
Also the more extreme xenophobia stuff was pushed when Priestley was forced out and Merrett took over (same bloke who changed the emperor into an autistic wanker)
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>>52831181
Much appreciated Brother. May the emperor smile upon you.
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>>52831029
Remove the Shroud if you put him with the Black Knights, since it only gives Shrouded when he's alone, and you want him with them so they can keep him alive as meat shields, and so he can buff them with Interromancy if you plan on using their melee. Drop the meltagun, it's illegal, and you're better off capping objectives with those tacs. Give the sergeants bolters instead of chainswords, you don't want them in melee. So if you drop the meltagun and the Shroud, you'll have 20 more points, for a total of 30 to spend. Buy him another Mastery Level. You'll have five points after that, so give someone melta bombs or something. Lemme check if giving them the free Ravenwing Grenade Launchers is worth it.
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>>52831203
Fair enough. Always good to remember the vast amounts of middle ground between 'best friends forever' and 'suffer not the different to live'. And yeah, Chaos losing ground but gaining mobility is the kind of stalemate I can get behind.
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So are there rules for making my own army lore?
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>>52831271
Don't make it dumb.
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>>52831271
No. Don't break any "hard" setting rules and have adequate consequences if your characters break in-universe rules or laws to avoid Mary Sueism.

That's about it.
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>>52831271
Not really as far as I know. Go ahead and have fun, as long as it makes sense and isn't ridiculous or anything.
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Instead of having to worry about if your list is too strong why doesn't GW just balance their game?
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>>52831271

No hard and fast rules. Your can make 'Your Dudues' however you want.

However it's often a good idea to try and keep the army thematically apprioate for 40k, and it's a solid rule of thumb that for every good thing about your army (i.e. Space Marine Chapter with strong technological bent and thus generally above Vera he gear) you have some drawback (Equipment is considered by many in the Mechanius to be heretical and they are frequently shunned by forge worlds)
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>>52831029
>>52831232
They might be worth it for the Stasis Shell and the Rad Shell, seeing as they give -1WS and -1I if they Hit, and not if they Wound, but being only S3 with no AP means they'll probably not do very much damage. On average, you'll scatter 2", which usually will still hit something, and since it affects the unit and not the models hit, it means you'll be hitting on a 3+ in melee against anything that normally has WS4 or worse.

Though, a relentless TL plasma gun is pretty good too and might be better, since at melee range you'll be able to fire off 2 shots that will more than likely hit and actually do damage unlike the grenade launcher, so this is really up to you on this one, but since you have a Librarian with them, I'll assume you'll be rollig on Interromancy, so I'm leaning towards the Plasma Talons since Interromancy can debuff the crap out of people while doing nice damage.

Remember that you have to model the Black Knights with the Hammers, seeing as you haven't given them any upgrades.
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since rubrics are considerd overcosted, what would be a fair price for them in your opinion?
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Big news today lads. What do you reckon it's gonna be? 9th edition? Such a powerfull edition that it skips 8th?
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How are Tyranids in Herald of Ruin Kill Team?

I've a friend who likes Tyranids and wants to play HoR with them, but I've very little experience with them myself beyond the general chatter through the grape vine that they're suffering hard this edition and was wondering if that extended to HoR
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WHERE ARE THE NEW DEATH GUARD MODELS AAAAAAAAAAA
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>>52831330
I would have thought if it was something as big as 8th ed they would have teased it for longer than 2 days
Probably new models for SoB or something SW:A related. Then again you never know what the hell GW are plotting most of the time
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>>52831348
Maybe they're gonna re-release the squats?
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>>52831313
So much information to take in.

The thing I totally didn't compute is the
>Remember that you have to model the Black Knights with the Hammers, seeing as you haven't given them any upgrades.

could you elaborate on it?
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>>52831318
I'd want to say 19 or so. The big thing eating up their cost is the Sorcerer though, so shave off another 20 points from the squad to discount his psyker level and force weapon a bit more.

That puts a basic squad of 5 at 110 points.
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>>52831277
>>52831279
>>52831280
>>52831309
So making an Iron Warriors chapter that have a love for closing off escape routes while artillery bombing the enemy forces is fine?
And with painting, do you have to stick to the original color scheme and sigil or can you stray a bit off?
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>>52831396
Sounds perfectly Iron Warriors to me.

Go fucking wild with the paint scheme. Maybe some hazard stripes here and there as an homage.
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>>52831396
Decal on your dudes mean absolutely nothing in game so go ham
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>>52831396
Yes, you have to paint your models perfectly accurately to what's depicted in the book, or the GW's special Color-Scheme Strike-Team will break into your house and confiscate your models.

But seriously, they're Chaos marines. That gives you double the license to do whatever the fuck you want.
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>>52831348
>Probably new models for SoB
I hope you only said that facetiously
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>>52826932
Groovy!
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When are we getting the news?
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So what's tomorrow's announcement?

And why won't it be GorkaMorka?
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>>52831396

Sounds solid. Go for it.
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>>52831379
Yeah sorry about that m8, just like helping, probably forgot that you were a bit too new to really get all that.

The Black Knights as part of their wargear have Corvus Hammers, so if you model the sergeant with a Power Sword, you have to pay 12 points for it because that's a wargear option you can give him. I play mostly What You See Is What You Get, and most tournaments and lots of people do as well. In your list, you haven't bought any upgrades for the Knights or Ravenwing Bikers, which means that you have to model the Knights with Corvus Hammers because that's what they come with.
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>>52831396
Yeah, it's perfectly fine. You could stick to the original color scheme, which looks nice and makes it easier to tell what you're using or you could always make your own. It's always easier to do the official so you don't have to think about all the color and stuff though.
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>>52831427
Today 14:00 British Summer Time my good friend. At the moment in the UK it is 08:10 BST
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>>52831386

afaik a normal tactical marine is 14 points. dont you think a 4++ and a AP 3 Bolter would be a bit too cheap with just 5 points?
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>>52831318
They aren't overcosted. They're just only really good at one specific thing.
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>>52831437
Thanks a whole lot brother :) May the emperor smile upon you.
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>>52830825
>Ynnead exists beyond the warp in the void of death and is gathering souls

yeah no

that's not how gods work
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PLASTIC SISTERS WHEN?
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>>52831467
It's late. I was thinking they were 12 for some reason.

The AP 3 bolter I would classify as being maybe worth 2 or 3 points. It's nice, but Sternguard seem to pay about 4 for their special issue ammo that has AP 3 rounds along with a lot more versatility, so half that for a single one with less downsides seemed fair.

I thought 5 or 6 points was fair as well for the invuln, though in the end that leaves us at 21-23 points.

I still feeling pushing it down to 19 could work though, mainly because that 4+ invuln doesn't often do much for something that already has power armor.

Perhaps instead though, it would be more fair to lower the cost only for additional models, so that a small squad would still be a higher price, but as you added more men it became more efficient.
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>>52831544
2pm GMT ;)
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>>52830602
Who won?
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>>52830728
>geneseed is the only way they can increase their numbers
Which is exactly why it's such a great display of decadent excess. It's eating the last panda times a 100
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>>52829049
Oh my god HNNGGGG.
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>>52831104
Friends R&H takes four quad mortars and they wreck my guard. You could use cadian models but there are specific FW upgrade kits for heretics and they look great. People might have beef if you use stock standard cadians covered in Aquila's and call them 'hererics'.
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>>52829381
>30 noise marines
>about 20 marines i haven't decided what to do with
>a skitarii army that's almost complete, but i have no motivation to paint.
>a shitton of covnersion
>a inquisition force that's being repainted for the third time

Got a chinabox coming in soon.
I want to get off this ride.
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>>52831775
Quit buyin' more shit and paint what you've got, you maniac!
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>>52829381
2 Exalted Sorcerers
Ahrimans disc (Ahriman himself is finished and magnetized)
9 Chaos terminators in various configurations
Sorcerer in Terminator armor
2 Eldar Warlocks
A bunch of warmachine stuff

I keep painting, but the backlog keeps growing.
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R8
Is it even viable to do a pure GK list in 7th?
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>>52828725
W-what? Thank you.

>>52829533
You mean shame the rest aren't camo'd like the pathfinder?
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Reposting my list, any tips on how to use it, I've not played 7th before.
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>>52826876
Cawl, used a tad too much paint in the water effects but happy overall with him,
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>>52831981
Though I'm currently working on Celestine and her backup. Thoughts so far?
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>>52831403
>>52831410
>>52831415
>>52831436
>>52831452
Alright cool. I've been reading everything I can get my hands on before I get into the hobby, but alot of things I can't find out through the wiki or google. This stuff seems like it would be really fun to me. Thanks guys
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>>52831990
Are you gonna paint their faces later?
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>>52832006
Remember, fuck people's opinions. If you think shit looks cool then go for it
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>>52831990
Look nice, I'm actually currently waiting for my Celestine to arrive, so hype.
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>>52832007
Well yeah? It's a WIP of course. Still need to brighten the robe's white parts and ink/highlight the reds. Been a while since I've painted any female faces though, last one I did was a gift for a friend about a year and a half ago.
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Hey guys assembling a Khorne Daemonkin army, I've been crossing over into world eaters territory cause I love the idea of taking 4 units of berzerkers and rampaging across the board.

Anyway, I'm trying to build a list but I'm unsure how I should go about it. I know I wanna take the gorepack+ a juggerlord with goredrinker but beyond that I'm unsure.

Right now I've got
2x Bloodthirster
30x Bloodletters
1x daemon prince (though I have another that is in pieces)
40x CSM / Berzerkers
5x terminators
6x bikers
20x fleshhounds
1x helbrute
1x Knight paladin.

I've been thinking about picking up a few cultists for quick blood tithe points. But suggestions for the list?
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5 HOURS UNTIL PLASTIC SISTERS ANNOUNCEMENT INCLUDE ME IN THE SCREEN CAP.
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>>52832018
Do people get mad over unpainted units?
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>>52832093
Some do but if someone gets really irritated over it you probably shouldn't play them anyway
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>>52832093
I know people don't like seeing unpainted units, and my GW has a rule that they at least must be base coated. But yeah, I think newbies should be able to play and enjoy the game
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>>52832093
I don't think most people mind if the guy with 500 points of dudes doesn't have them painted. It's more the guys that have multiple armies without undercoat in sight.
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>>52832093
As long as they actually *intend* to paint them at some point
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>>52829601
>that knife

"Come at me, Hun, I'll cut ya!"
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>>52831842
but there's too many models i love!
It's like pokemon and crack cocaine, i need to have it all.

but yeah you're right that i have a problem.
That was just the 40k models i got around, i also have a Infinity Haqqislam force basecoated and a Malifaux crew to finish
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>>52832087
it's 4 hours you dumdum
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Ive been trying to download the traitor legion supplement but its a EPUB file rather than a pdf, so i cant open it in explorer, chrome or adobe reader. Anyone know how to make it a pdf?
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>>52832210
the knife's not even the bad part. it's like one of those punji sticks that got covered in shit times 1000
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>>52832306
Download chrome app "simple epub reader"
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>>52832306
just download readium
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>>52832329
>>52832342
Thanks ill do these
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>>52832306
Try renaming a copy of the file as "Insertname.pdf"
Works with images all the time.
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>>52832306
There's a PDF of it here
https://mega.nz/#F!9NchGZyZ!-V1LhJALxDp9Tw97WzEQGA!BJ0wwaKK
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>>52832388
>>52832381
>>52832342
>>52832329
Thanks for the help i got it working now
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>>52831130
>Looks like he was returned to life perhaps? They talk about him in the present tense it seems

No, he just told them about the visit a while ago before he got turned into wood by Ahriman.

>>52830825

>There is something called the Great Rift - not sure if it's just the eye or something else

It's the Eye, you idiot. It's expanding rapidly.


It's like saying the Great Enemy and She who Thirsts are different things. Dumb, dumb.

>Ynnead exists beyond the warp in the void of death and is gathering souls

No, he doesn't. The audiobook doesn't even say this.
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>>52829601
>Multicoloured nurgle
You got a friend in me, pal.

>>52826876
Some nurglings. Or a herald, i cant remember which I finished last.
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>>52829804
>>52830299
>>52830728

It's not just a slaaneshi thing, either. One of the characters in the Night Lords novels before ADB went off the rails is slowly succumbing to the bestial anger of his Mark of Khorne and resorts to tearing out people's gene-seed and eating it at various points. It's considered a tremendous waste of resources at the very least and an extreme dishonour to their fallen brothers when he does it to their own warband.
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>>52832478
>before ADB went off the rails
I've never read before, what do you mean?
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>>52832478
That is like eating testicles of your enemies, its gay.
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>>52832490
Imperialfags are angry about him reinforcing one of the long lived themes of the setting and not sucking the Emperor's dick.
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I'm a newbie still reading rules, how does one twinlink their weapons as they do in battle reports?
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>>52832529
Twinlinked weapons are usually part of wargear or from a special rule granting twinlinked.

So if a Marine Captain buys a Marine Bike, he gains the Biker unit type, and a Twin-linked boltgun. That means his boltgun can reroll failed hit rolls.
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>>52826876
Nearly 4 years ago.
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>>52829107
>TFW you base you models on 25 mm and then by slightly too tall 32 mm expanders to get that clean rim effect.
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>>52830614
Drill'em
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Anyone tried converting Orrucks into Orks? For some reason they look so much better than 40k version.
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>>52832523
He IS biased and uses same character concept & structure over and over again.
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Trying to think of a casual tourney rulepack. So far I have:

>2K points limit
>No superheavies or Gargantuans allowed
>Can bring 1 Monstrous Creature per 1K points except for Tyranids (no limit) and Tau/Eldar (1 MC per 2K points)
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>>52830297
>>wind up like Blood Angels who got the first 7th Ed.

Orks were the first codex of 7th. It's why we suck.
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>>52832549
Bikers are a tad different because the TL boltgun is on the bike. The captain still has his non-TL handheld boltgun. Can choose to fire either, but obviously the bikes' gun is better.
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>>52832613
>all those white specks and shine
You used a non-hobby paint varnish didn't you? I have the same shit on some berzerkers. The fucking thing says matte for acrylic paint but it ended up a good deal glossy and covered in white specks I can't remove. Handling also causes white-ish streaks I can remove with water. Never again.
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>>52826935
Holy shit they're terrible
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Okay, so I read a good portion of the 7e rule book and 40k lore.
Now how do I get into this game?
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>>52832781

Contact your flgs/club and ask them when their game night is.
Then tell them you'd like a beginner game with someone. Most shops have a Dark vengeance set for sample games.
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>>52832781
>step 1: choose an army
>step 2: learn about the army's lore and units
>step 3: form a decent army list at either 500 pts or 1000 pts
>step 4: buy the miniatures that comprise said army list
>step 5: paint and assemble them
>step 6: go play a game with someone and keep doing that until you get good, and then expand your army some more until you're a veteran

Any questions you have can be asked here.
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>>52832740
White specs are dust, shine is due to no matte varnish and that I didn't know to shake off excess.

It's AP medium Quickshade .
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>>52832248
TWO HOURS
W
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H
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>>52832886
>pls be mortarion pls be mortarion pls be mortarion
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New guy here. What's "fluff"?
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>>52832995
The setting, stories, lore and background. It "fluffs" out the game.
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3v3 DoW 3 is basically playing an rts where 2/3s of the dudes are controlled by a retarded bot. Who picks Ultramarines really.
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>>52831503
>>52832425
When the inevitable ebooks come out I'll quote them back at you
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>>52833005
Thanks. So it would be correct to claim the space marine codex has a lot of fluff?
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>>52832523
M8 he brings his dad issues into everything
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>>52832995
The soft wet poop that you can lick up while eating out your boyfriend's anus.
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>>52826876
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>>52833022
Yup. Codexes and the main rulebook are the main sources of fluff.
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>>52833065
Thanks
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New thread for the announcement? I would do it myself but I cant at the moment.
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>>52833093
Calm your tits we're only at page 7
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>>52833093
Who the fuck cares, it's just the SWA rulebook
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>>52833093
Right ere
>>52829843
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>>52833093
I have the pasta but being OP means I'll get notified everything someone has a retarded question, I've barely the patience for retarded replies to my retarded questions.

I'd love a "Do no notify with replies to OP option"

>>52833114
And you kow if we wait till page 9 some retard will use 3 year old pasta, no subject or subject in name field and use the "minimum effort cover".
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>>52833035
Back to /b/
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Is it worth taking a flamer on CSM squads? I've always gravitated towards the plasma gun, but I realized that idk what my army does against shit with a high body count like nids.

Pic related.
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>>52833224
No, you return to reddit.
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Rate my ancient-as-fuck Nurgle conversions that I just found in a box?
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I found out I have a bunch of cultists but no regular marines whatsoever.
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>>52833453
Looks pretty well
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>>52833463
Thanks. I also made bikers out of Chaos Knights even though I hate bikers.
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>>52833473
Okay, last one.
I kinda wish Death Guard got a vehicle in their update.
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>>52833473
>>52833482
Looks pretty neat, yeah

Also, I'd wait until the new release because Duncan will probably do some tutorials on painting nurgley things, and you might be interested for that too
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I ran this against my mate's Dark Eldar today and thrashed him. It's completely bonkers though, because he knew I was bringing this exact list and decided not to bring his Corpse Thief formation of five Talos Pain Engines, and then spent the points on eighteen armour 5 jetbikes instead. We ended up playing Purge, and he basically just fed me singular units the whole game. He had 3 Ravagers with Dark Lances, about eight Venoms, three squads of those dumb jetbikes and a bunch of Wracks and Grotesques. I hit the Raider carrying the Grotesques with a railgun round and exploded it on the first turn, and all the fight basically went out of him and he started this massive suicidal charge. He was easily out of range of most of my stuff, there was LOS blocking terrain everywhere, so what he couldn't get out of range of (the Hammerhead guns and a Railside) he could have hid from. We ended up with a draw, he raped me on Maelstrom points but I got like 16 kill points from the mission being Purge (ITC combined mission format)

Basically, he knew exactly what I was bringing and decided to gimp himself (he knows I can barely deal with the Talos formation) and then spent the whole game screaming about how OP my army is. He can beat it, but he says that fielding the Talos is boring because he rolls everyone with it. Then he bitches for literally hours when he gets rolled because he didn't bring it. This guy is one of my best mates, /tg/. How can I get him to calm the fuck down about me switching to (infantry and tank only(!!!)) Tau?
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>>52831029
it's 500 pts dude it doesn't need to be fully optimized.
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>>52833482
You got some bad moldlines there mate.
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>>52833595
Yeah, I know, but I am in no hurry to paint him so I got plenty of time to fix it.
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We still haven't a link for DoWIII novel, right?
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announcement is up.

8th edition happening boys
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New edition FAQ is up:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/04/22/the-new-edition-of-warhammer-40000-your-questions-answered/
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When will Orks be good again?
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>>52833728
It's almost impossible for them to be as shitty as they are now.

Ditto for Tyranids, unless certain someone designs their rules.
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>>52833719
>Did you guys blow up the universe?

They learned form AoS it seems.
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>>52833719
Well, this gives me hope.
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>>52833669
Black library m8
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>>52833719
I'm glad they decided not to frankenstein the current codexes into the ruleset in some way. That would only have ended in tears.
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>>52828330
As reminder never mix flamer and melta I'm the same squad. Go for flamers or meltas not both in your battle sister squads.

Since SoB only have "melta" in meltagun, Multi-Melta and Exorcist (I know no melts rule but it is S8 AP1, so sniper melta?) and "flamers" flamer, heavy flamer and hand flamer. You will end with more of one or the another regardless.
So according to your local meta bring the proper ratio of melta and flamers


I'd personally drop the DCA and the Fat Cow, since Saint Thicc is there. You could add an Avenger DAKKA or another exorcist.
I say this because DCA have to walk and the Cannones is using space since there is no line to protect nor a way for her to get choppy.
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>>52833719
>Can I still use all my models?
Yes. Every Warhammer 40,000 miniature we sell today will be usable in the new edition of Warhammer 40,000. What’s more, they’ll be supported with new rules, which will be available from the get go in handy, low-cost books.

>Even Forge World models?
Yes, even all of your Warhammer 40,000 Forge World models

HAH, IA 8 ork units confirmed still valid.
(Though now 3 editions out of date...)
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Pls r8 my tankbusta nob with pseudo stikkbomb chucka boss pole
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New edition teaser:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A3G6JcLn24&ab_channel=WarhammerTV
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>>52833797
do the grot have a stick up its arse?
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>buy Space Marines 7th edition codex yesterday
>this happens

HAHA NOT EVEN MAD
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>>52833799
Death Guard vs what in the starter kit? I don't recognise those colors. Dark Angels had the last one.
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>>52833807
He's been "strapped" to the customisable pole bit so be can't run off.
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>>52833815
BT vs DG
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>>52833807
He also seems to be wearing a chastity belt.
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>>52833808
Serves you right for doing zero research before purchasing.
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>>52833819
New edition new thread
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>>52833808
Everyone's been talking about 8e for months. It's entirely your own fault.
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>>52833836
>doing research before buying the book with the information in it
obviously buyer beware but it's sort of understandable in this instance
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>>52833846
The talk was "might be after summer no one knows for sure".
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>>52833797
>>52833797
That has to be the unhappiest grot...He is literally discovering what it is like to be the angel on a Christmas tree...
I mean the Sanguinius on a Sanguinallia tree.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWsrypTqus8
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>mfw new edition
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>mfw Tau and Eldar players are about to get what's coming to them.
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>>52834051
>mfw somehow the game balance doesn't change at all
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>>52833719
>there’s some pretty epic stuff ahead!
That's what I'm afraid of... I want grimdark, not epic goddamn it >:(
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>>52833815
Female marines vs DG
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>Adeptus mechanicus is now one faction
FUCKING YES FINALLY
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>>52832085
Bump
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>>52831960
Looks pretty aggressive. Just get in close and start melting armor and flaming infantry. Keep Celestine with the Seraphims as a sponge while the wreck shit.
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>>52833776

Thanks for the input. I had an Avenger on the list at one point, but no Exorcist. So dropping Canoness and Assassins to bring it back isn't a problem. Mostly had Canoness since I really like the Veridyan model and already have it. But she doesn't have to be in the army.

I'm not sure I want to spend the money ordering the rest of the army, (I only have about half the figures I need, which is why making big adjustments to the list hasn't been a big deal), until I see what the new edition has changed.
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Just started my first attempt att stripping paint, anyone interested in seeing how it ends up?
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>>52833547
I want to save as much money as possible in the long run
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>>52833719
>this is New Games Workshop™
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What the absolute fuck, that nuMarine is basically spot on: longer bolter, sigmarine knee, mk8 style neck bit
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