Pathfinder General /pfg/

>>52824867
Kineticist actually came first with the whole "combat/noncombat" track division thing, but I agree with the sentiment. Combat/Non-combat resources SHOULD be on different tracks.

There was some anon doing a "Techniques" thing for Path of War, which was non-combat stuff related to disciplines that you could pick up. I think it's a fantastic idea.

>>52824867
I feel like it should have been that way from the start. There should be a difference between things like Run and Power Attack. I hate how every time I make a character I have to ask myself whether I want to be useful or I want to take the cool character building feats that are usually worthless like "+2 to hit a specific color of dragon sometimes", all my builds are too feat starved to do both.

>>52824867
I do think it's a pretty good concept, but broader; social would only be one part of general noncombat problem-solving ability, which allows more variation in which noncombat problems each person can solve. If everyone's just equally good at social, no one is.

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>>52824951
>+2 to hit a specific color of dragon sometimes

Weren't these what traits were supposed to be?

>>52824867
How do I play one of those cuties?

>>52825011

Possibly, but they have the same issue-there are some ridiculously strong ones it'd be silly not to take, and a lot of the more narratively interesting ones just suck ass.

>>52825032
Either Agathion-blooded Aasimar, some flavor of Tiefling, convincing your DM to let you play as a Faunt from the bestiary, or that one homebrew race an anon made called the Wendiabe

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Hihi, loves, is there any way to get dex to damage with ranged weapons? 3pp and 3.5 material are available!

>>52824867
Could I get a source on that? My google-foo is weak and I just get spammed with Alice in wonderland art if I try using the Hatter keyword.

>>52825193
Deadeye feat?

>>52825060
On top of that sometimes certain traits feel required to make a character work, like making knowledge arcana a class skill on a dragon hunter or getting the only 1pp +CL boost in the game on a theurge because being a theurge is suffering. Which depending on your point of view either forces you to take them and incorporate them into your character's story or forbids you from taking them because they don't fit, depending on your character.

>>52825193
Trench Fighter Fighter.

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>>52825193

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GBdtBUqhDUEE83kptq8eLuNyiaLKTt1YkeKlex5DROY/edit#heading=h.bwpsedihabca
>Deadeye Sharpshooter (Combat)
>Your aim is true.
>Prerequisites: Point-Blank Shot.
>Benefit: Whenever you make a ranged attack with a weapon that does not add an ability bonus to the damage roll (such as a beam rifle or non-composite bow), you can add 1/2 the ability modifier that determined your attack roll as a bonus on the damage roll.

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>>52825100
Who's the biggest blusher in HR?
Who's the biggest headpatter?

>>52825193
Fighter-Trench Fighter 3 or Gunslinger 5 for firearms.

Fighter-Crossbowman can kind of get dex to crossbow attacks. They have to be readied attacks, if I remember correctly. Gunslinger-Bolt Ace gains dex to damage with xbows at 5, plus bonus to crit mod.

You can kind of view Deadly Aim as adding dex to damage. +1 dex mod gives +1 hit, Deadly Aim converts hit to damage at a rate of 1 hit for 2 dam and scales with BAB.

That's all 1pp. I don't know about 3pp.

>>52825230
At first glance that felt kinda underwhelming, then I realized that even half my Dex mod is a pretty high boost...

>>52825265
Serigala is actually the biggest blusher so far.
There haven't been too many headpats yet, but I believe Sophia is in the lead.

>>52825230
>Well that's pretty coo-
>"non-composite bow"
>yet again bows come out on top

>>52824867
>there are three pfgs up right now

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>>52825206
>>52825230

Thank you thank you!

How do I make Dark Elementalist work? Assuming Soul Feast/Soul Tormentor are allowed, what makes a good gestalt option for them?

>>52825193
>>52825271

I missed the part where you said 3.5 allowed. Crossbow Sniper, and Improved Crossbow Sniper. First adds 1/2 dex to damage, latter adds full, to crossbows obviously. Also extends the range for sneak attacks to 60/90 feet if you are into that.

Is Privateer worth it at all for a Desperado Warlord? I want to make a gun slinging initiator but giving up gambit maneuver recovery for...not a whole lot seems really bad.

How do you react upon realizing that you've bitten off much more than you can chew? That you don't really have a chance of finishing the fight you've started, or that the enemy is a great deal stronger than you thought.

>>52825398
Bravely run away?

>>52825398
Diplomacy. As long as you're not completely outclassed you are probably a threat to them and (usually) no one wants to die.

Unless you're up against something you can't reason with, then just remember that withdraw lets you double move out of threatened squares and running lets you go really, really far.

Alternatively, just be a caster and use a teleport spell.

>>52825398
Is running a viable option? Are the stakes riding on the fight way too high? If neither of these
>I see. As I am now, I stand no chance of defeating you. I concede defeat. If you're interested in a real fight, I'll challenge you again when I am stronger.

What's the toxin stuff that turns you incorporeal?

Anons, would you help a shoanti barbarian girl that is clingy and overprotective because she's lonely?

>>52825510
Ghost syrup.

>>52825526
something about this seems familiar

>>52825555
Thanks!

>>52825458
Running is rarely ever a viable option in the d20 system, with one exception: MASSIVELY OUTNUMBERED by weaker entities with a decent amount of distance still between you.

If it gets to the point where you would need to run away not because there's a thousand armored soldiers on the horizon and you're only level 4 (by 8-9 some parties are gonna start licking their lips at those odds) but because that's a fucking adult dragon and you're level 2, your odds of survival as a party are *SIGNIFICANTLY* higher if you try to bank on natural 1s and 20s to swing the fight your way (or just make death a lot faster and less painful if they swing the other way, but at least you're done with it and can move on to next campaign)

If you run in that last scenario, SCATTER. MOST of the party will die, but whoever's eaten last might actually get away before it happens. Of course now they're sole survivors with no longer a party and likely unable to continue on with the story proper, so the campaign's probably fucked anyways.


tldr; a 5% chance of automatically hitting is better odds of survival than the 0% chance of wasting your turns getting eaten by something faster and with better detection ratings than you have.

>>52825526
Are we talking "clingy and overprotective" in that she's got some issues but acts like an adult, or "clingy and overprotective" as in she's borderline or openly yandere?

>>52825610
As in, she's got some issues. Maybe SLIGHT yandere but it's for all her friends/the party, because she doesn't make friends easily and she doesn't want to lose them

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>>52825526

Help her what, exactly? Learn to sing so she can share the music in her heart with the world?

Because I'd be down with that.

>>52825631
I'd help as long as I could get her word that she wouldn't do anything dangerous or abusive.

>>52825265
>blusher
Serigala followed by Estelle. Hana likes to spill her spaghetti but no blushing. Sophia is too cool for that.

>headpatter
I think none yet but Sophia will be probably the first to deliver. She or Serigala.

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Is it wrong to sign up for a lewdgame with the goal of getting married and raising a family?

>>52825700
IT
STILL
HURTS

>>52825700
Not at all. You just gotta say that you're going to be fruitful and multiply with your wife.

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>>52825711
Happiness is for the weak and mediocre, who know nothing of the darkness that lives in this world.

Guys! I just figured it out. The dragon debate from this morning sounded so familiar because its the DM's version of "it's what my character would do!"

>>52825741

Oh, don't be such a big girl's blouse.

>>52825651
She's normally a very tough, no-nonsense girl with a violent temper but with her friends she's as sweet and doting as she can try to be

>>52825638
She's a barbarian anon, not for singing

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>>52825711
Sometimes people get happy endings!

Just not in RWBY.

So, I need some help, can somebody help name me some essential wondrous items to get thats under the cost of 1.9k?

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>>52825711
It's not all bad. Look at all her new skeleton friends!

>>52825811

>Not for singing

Don't be silly, anon! Just because she spends her day in a frothing rage slaughtering people doesn't mean she can't sing!

Game pitch:
>you're in an empire built of lands that were conquered and consolidated some 100 years prior
>the empire is now in a large scale rebellion, lasted the last 25 years (the leaders of those participating on both sides either directly involved or the children of those who did the conquering due to elongated lifespans)
>the empire is also fending off another nation to the north who is using the destabilization from the rebellion to make a bid at seizing territory
>you are members of a profiteering mercenary company, one of many who prosper in this empire at war
>one party member would be nominated to be the captain
>the four others are majors under him
>each command approximately 250 men
>there are 2 NPC majors as well
>the company is not large enough to fight a war, but powerful enough to turn the tide of battles
>the party were elevated to their current positions after the "Massacre at Broken Bridge" which killed and scattered 2/3 of the company and killed the previous leadership
>you need to rebuild, form new contracts, make your way in the war torn world, and most of all turn a profit

>>52825860
Non, this barbarian does not sing. She brutally slaughters the people that might harm her friends.

And she sleeps beside a different party member each night in order to make sure they're safe

>>52825881

Well, what if the party member in question is having trouble sleeping? She could sing to them then.

>>52824867

Personally I think it is a good idea. The Vigilante is a proof of concept that it works better than things like the rogue where all their talents are in one little pile. Rage Powers are awesome, but people also tend to pick offensive rage powers over more situational utility ones, and certainly feat starvation means it's hard to justify a neat feat that doesn't help your fighting style come online.

I can understand why they put it all together, because that's how it worked for Spheres of Power because Magic has ALWAYS had both utility and combat stuff mixed together. I personally liked some of the more skill-based spheres like Scout and Athletics the most anyway, as I was already able to kill things with swordplay, my main thing is there's fucking nothing else to do with a martial when you're not doing that.

Admittedly, I still do prefer what SoM is laying down over the base combat system in PF. The core combat system is a garbage fire, particularly if you've played others. Even just playing 5e for a bit completely ruined playing Pathfinder martials for me. The SoM versions at least look more fun to build even if you're focusing purely on combat.

>>52825902
If they're having trouble sleeping, they get hugged. No singing. Her singing voice is terrible. Very bad.

>>52825734
I wanna multiply with Bailey!

>The NPC rolls diplomacy to convince you your plan is terrible

>>52825932

All the more reason to practice, then.

>>52824867
Every character should have those resources.

One of my favorite things about the Gunslinger isn't actually the combat suite, which is mediocre, but how the class can just make a shitload of guns. With downtime and Profession (Teacher), you can turn your peasant rabble into a formation of militia musketeers.

>>52825944
Fine, then. But she's only doing it because someone wants her to sing a lullaby

>>52824867
Isn't DHB a really big supporter of non-combat and combat stuff being separated?

is it just me or are players area angry/offended when they find out after the fact that an NPC lied to them? I don't mean like in character mad I mean mad that it happening was even a possibility.

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>>52825953
>you can turn your peasant rabble into a formation of militia musketeers.

Who all have to take levels in the shitty gunslinger class and have their guns explode!

Aside from Mounted Combat, what are essential feats for a mounted archer type character?

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>>52826009
Don't be mean!

>>52825700
catgirls are for breeding anon

>>52826144
>tfw several of the 'popular' or highly shilled Overlewd apps are into breeding

>>52826175
which ones

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>>52826144
What about kitsune?

>>52826175
>tfw all female team of breeders have no PC-quality stock to breed with

>>52826175
>tfw not memes much
Feels good man

>>52826195
Death.

>>52826196
>They have to go forth and kidnap the finest stock
>They start holding classes for their underlings on how to spot, approach, and interact with good potential fathers
>We Gerudo now

>>52825700

Pyrrha filled out with motherhood!

What level would you put a spell that's Alter Self but touch range and permanent duration?

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>>52826144
>>52826195

THIS IS WHY HUMANS END UP A MINORITY IN STARFINDER, ANONS

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>>52826211
>>52826196
>>52826175
>this is literally what my character is about
>mfw

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>>52826211
>>52826235

>>52826217
It;s called polymorph any object anon.

>>52826249

Risa was born to be an adventurer.

>>52826269
But PAO is much more powerful than Alter Self.

>>52826249
>Okay, Risa, I'm going to be honest with you.
>You've got no hope of passing this class.
>So we're going to transfer you to the kidnapping corps to let you get your credits that way.
>Make us proud, girl.

>>52826235

Which character is yours?

This revelation on breeding kinks is making me nervous there's other players in other games who are into that.

>>52826191
As far as I can tell, Crytha is literally a mom.

Cijiska's player said some stuff to that extent on Discord. Not going to post screencaps, though.

I imagine most of the succ aren't for breeding, but that's what you get when you're dealing with literal semen demons.

>>52826249

Why was this game so waifu dense? You couldn't enter a village without some white-haired ninja girl ogling you like some piece of prime beef.

>>52826305
>>52826299
>>52826235
>>52826211
>>52826196
>>52826175
Well, we know some of the GM's profiles are into that

>>52826299
gnollmom

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>>52826218
>YFW you realize there is an entire culture of hybridized humanoids made of half-breed CR 20 alien races, including Annuki and Star Spawn of Cthulhu.

>>52826218

I conquered and enslaved that race, set them to "Domestic Servitude", and blew my influence budget for years on end relocating them to every planet in my empire with good master-race humans.

Yiff-slaves for everyone!

>never did livestock though
>vore aint my thing

>>52826218

I want to be a crazed geneticist who seeks to collect the genetic material of every new species we run across, to craft the Ultimate Being!

>>52826343
Get out Cellfag.

>>52826343
>BEHOLD, MY ULTIMATE CREATION! THE BEING WITH SEVEN ASSES!

>>52826336

I did Delicious, Nerve-Stapled and Very Strong for a race of gene-modded supersoldiers during my last Bio playthrough.

They were Lizards, like the Grox, and were as effective on a plane as they were on a plate.

>>52826343
Don't forget to somehow inexplicably collect genetic material from other planets that you couldn't have actually visited in the first place.

>>52826295

But they both weigh a spell slot!

>>52826343
But for the ultimate life form, SEX = USELESS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3tkaVcYgPA

>>52826373
But how much does a spell slot weigh?

>>52826373
>>52826379
Apparently, about as much as a basketball.

>>52826372

Should I also specialize in robotics, and build four Androids to protect and aid my research?

>>52826390

A kilogram of steel.

>>52826409
I don't get it

>>52826419

They're both a kilogram.

>when you can't think of anything to gestalt with that would fit your concept well and be mechanically effective

>>52826401
....okay, I need to know what this references.

>>52826448

Tell us more about the character, and the class you got!

What do you do when you made a character that is at ease with less morally sound methods to put them at loggerheads with the good guys in a party, and there are no good guys and the party you have has no issues following your outrageous, over the top suggestions?
>well, since this village is friendly to the rebels we are here to wipe out, we should wipe out the village too! The friend of my enemy is my enemy, after all
>...
>Sure, anon! We should totally raze this quiet village that subsists on being a trade hub and fishing to the ground because some of them believe in the mantra of the rebels!
I'm personally terrified the dm will have children in this village.
>When you kill weeds, you gotta pull them from the root

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>>52826459
>not knowing about CELL

>>52826472

Have you or your party considered not being bastards?

>>52826459

Dragonballz Ball PeePee.

>>52826485
sorry, I like anime, but that one was just too drawn out for me.

Not that I don't enjoy the hell out of Android 18 and anyone who draws her with other girls.

>>52826442
Reminds me of an old question

"which is the greater burden, a kilo of bricks, or a kilo of feathers"

and the answer is, "the feathers, the bricks are few, but the feathers are many and may fly away, truly it is a greater burden."

>tfw you want to be good at making kickass weapons but don't want to be a full on spellcaster
Why does master craftsman have to suck so much dick?

>>52826343

Well, I want to play an extremely clumsy engineer that has to replace more and more of his body with cybernetics!

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I need pictures /pfg/ Pictures of WIERD RACES BEING DAPPER

>>52826533

Dude, ask your DM to allow the Artisan class.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/3rd-party-classes/drop-dead-studios/the-artisan/

This is EXACTLY what you want.

>>52826533
It's two feats anon. It even covers the penalty for not being a spellcaster for one spell.

>>52826561
Two feats is a pretty huge investment, anon. Especially since you're not a spell caster.

>>52826490
They were supposed to vociferously oppose the idea, anon.
We aren't murderhobos, we are a troubleshooter team/spec-ops group for a empire. My pc doesn't allow for kindness or morals to come up with what they feel is the most thorough course of action, but will back down if the others have a better idea.
I didn't think the others were such ammoral cretins as to actually go along with an offhand suggestion to murder a bunch of civvies that actually can't really fight back.
There are some 120 adults, and maybe 2 handfuls of combatants and spellcasters among them. The DM is using mob rules just to gives us something of a challenge

>>52826578
What? No its not

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>>52826545

>>52826585
it is if you're a charop minmaxer :^)

>>52826598
fuck you

>>52826585
Given how much of a limited resources feats are on any body but a human fighter, yes it is. Especially since master craftsman doesn't even do anything until several levels later when you can pick up a creation feat.

>>52826607
If you're trying to minmax with magic item crafting you're probably not gonna get into a game

>>52826555
>WBL destruction, the class
Uh huh.

>>52826598
i dont think west Africans qualify as a weird race.

>>52826615
If you were trying to minmax with magic item creation, you'd probably just make a spell-caster in the first place.

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>>52826608
What, why?

>>52826629
>pretending you don't know who that nigger is

>>52826627
I mean given the usual location of most campaigns, kinda?

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>>52826545
>>52826627
How about a Dapper Skeleton then, is that good enough?

>>52826636
You underestimate how many random character art pictures I save. I really have no idea who that is.

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>>52826647
A BACKSTABBING CUNT IS WHO HE IS

>>52825953
>>52826009
or just pick up master craftsman and hammer the training enchantment into the guns for the proficiency in said gun

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>>52826545

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>>52826668
>gun user
>having the spare feats for master craftsman+craft magic arms and armor

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>>52826545

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>>52826668
Ah thanks! I was looking for a feat tax to spend one of my 3 bonus feats per level on, since my GM is incredibly generous.

>>52826671

I remember this girl.

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>>52826545
Here y'go.

>>52826671
>that thigh gap

I want to stick my sweet alabama liquid snake in that subway tunnel.

>>52826677
How many feats are there that a gun user could even use to be better at gun'ing? Last I checked they had a small surplus mid level, fighter or gunslinger.

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>>52826545

>>52826748

Are treehouses racist? Find out after Cop Drama!

Is it me or does using Alchemists and Investigators with spheres of power feel really weird to anyone else? Like a lot of sphere effects feel like they don't gel well with the extract flavor.

>>52826789
They both turn into regular casters unless you take traditions to get the extracts back, so... Well.

The drawback for drawing magic circles is the BEST drawback for Alchemy, tbqhfamalam

>>52826789
because they aren't using extract flavor

They're more like FMA alchemists

>>52826730
>Rapid Shot
>Point Blank Shot
>Deadly Aim
>Clustered Shot
>precise shot
>Rapid Reload

>>52826789
>does anyone else feel like the archetypes that abandon the extract flavor, somehow just don't have the extract flavour?

>>52826807
Not really, you're not really a Pathfidner alchemist at that point. You're just a funky wizard.
>>52826811
I know, but spheres really doesn't have a tradition to reflect extract use. The closest ones that you have confer drawbacks that the regular alchemist didn't have. It's the same issue I have with spheres suggestion for mimicking psionic's.

>>52826841
I guess I'm just saying it feels weird to me because as much as I hate vanician casting alchemist is the one fucking class it actually makes sense for.

>>52826896
>DAE the non-vancian archetype feels less vancian?

>>52826813
Well, 4 feats by level 8, 2 bonus from Gunslinger, +1 if human. +1 if using musket since Musket Master gives free rapid reload.

That's without Weapon Focus and Greater Precise Shot though, if one felt the need for those. Fighters get more obviously but then they have to get focus for Weapon Specialization.

>>52826909
That's not really what I asked. I asked if anyone else felt the same way about Alchemists not being vancian, quit trying to be a smart ass.

>>52826934
People who prefer the vancian feel play the vancian archetypes, why is this a fucking philosophical quandary?

>>52826952
Am I not allowed to ask for fucking opinions?

Big red Oni jugs.

>>52826711
Tell me more!

>>52826978
Opinions about what?

You can literally just use the archetypes you want. Why does it matter what anyone thinks?

>>52826978
Not when you ask in stupid fucking ways.

"Does anyone else feel like, when they trade away the vancian stuff from the class that makes vancian feel interesting, they lose the fact that they're using vancian interestingly?"

Obviously you're not the only one who things that. Nobody in the world has ever said "Am I the only one who thinks that-" and been the only one who thinks that. You're not looking for opinions, you're looking for approval. On fucking 4chan. Reexamine your life.

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>>52826989

What else would an oni drink out of?

>>52826789
Alchemists without the right drawbacks look kinda funky but alright, but for Investigators it's more like just another alternative casting method. Which is fantastic, especially since it stacks with Empiricist without requiring me to beg my GM for shit. What gets my goat the most is how Investigators don't get access to Prescient Dodger, yet Alchemist and HEDGEWITCH can? The fuck? The actual Rogue derivative can't get this, while the caster that poaches Investigator's lunch can?

>captcha is CASHMERE Rains
Yes, she probably will.

>>52826997
>>52826996
I'm sorry for interrupting your discussions about fucking fluff tail bullshit then.

Of course no one who's says "Am I the only one" expects there the only one you fucking cock sucking smart ass faggot.

>>52826992

She was a character for someone here! I learned more, but the rest escape me.

>>52827020
Ask a more interesting question next time you fucking whiny bitch

"Guys when i use spheres instead of vancian i feel less less vancian"

Well no shit you dumb fuck.

>>52827006

Don't they have those huge dish things, and those even larger bulbous containers with corks?

>>52827020
At least the furfags aren't even pretending to be on topic. You're striking up a conversation about literally nothing, and you can't even have the decency to bluff it without looking retarded.

>>52827035
Or you know, maybe someone found ways to fluff it to keep the flavor?
>whiny bitch
I'm no the one screeching about on topic discussion like it's a bad thing, faggot.

>>52827066
"I want Vancian flavor, but I don't want to be Vancian"

Methinks you might be retarded, sir niggerfaggot

Dear christ what the fuck is wrong with you people.

>>52826920
I prefer going Trench/any other archetype that stacks Fighter instead of gunslinger, Sure I lose out on the gunslinger deeds but I pick up fighter bonus feats and weapon training which plays for itself

>>52827090
We play pathfinder.

>>52827090
Do you think anyone who spends their Friday night on 4chan is of sound mind and personable disposition?

>>52827135

I'm phoneposting!

>>52827153
THAT'S EVEN WORSE

>>52827135

Well, the first bit, maybe not, but I'm sure there are some real sweethearts.

>>52827166
Not me I'm a piece of shit

>>52827043

Those bulbous things are flasks made from gourds or some thing. The dish is just an overly large sake cup.

Guys guys guys

Kineticists going into Evangelist. Geokineticists of Gorum conjuring iron weapons. Pyrokineticists of Asmodeus. Wood kineticists of Erastil. Why has no one explored this idea before.

So on average how much gold does a level 12 party usually have?

>>52827207
Because kineticists suck, suck harder at multiclassing, and Golarion god's suck the fucking hardest.

>>52827207
Kineticists suck, golarion sucks, and you suck.

>>52827207
Because Kineticist is shit.

>>52827216
WBL x number of characters

>>52827216
Jesus fucking desu dude, open the manual.

A level 12 character usually has 108,000gp. How many people are in your party? Multiply like you're in gradeschool again, you baka mothersenpai.

>>52826175
Hah, if only you saw Emilia's f-list.

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I fucking hate my life, guys.

What's the most painful way one could end it all on Golarion?

>>52825711
Fucking saw it coming a fucking continent away when she first showed up.
> Named after the cross-dressing alter ego of Achilles
> Using a Spear and Shield just like Achilles
> Natty redhead like Achilles
> Greco-roman armour

Even if I saw it coming since she first appeared in the series, I still cried like a bitch when it happened. Best waifu is dead.

>>52827236
>Tfw tempted to make an f-list for a character that won't ever get into a game or see the light of day

just shoot me.

>>52827253
Ain't that a bitch?

>>52827261
Do it anyway. I did for like three of my rejected characters or four, come Tuesday.

>>52827253
.
> Named after the cross-dressing alter ego of Achilles
> Using a Spear and Shield just like Achilles
> Natty redhead like Achilles
> Greco-roman armour

She had a dick? Hot.

Melibrous Powder is a helluva drug.

>>52827274
Honestly I dunno what i'm going with my life desu.

>>52827285
I'm just working on my husbando skills.
Honestly, I'm coming to the realization that all of my characters would be better as waifus, but I don't really like playing women for lewd games.

>>52827285
You and me both, brother.

>>52827285
same

I dread actually turning 26, because that's the age I keep defaulting to for PCs

>>52827164

I'm not allowed to phonepost with my favorite folk while out drinking with others?

>>52827358
>4chan
>favorite folks
I thought I was in dire straights.

>>52827237

Become a Beautiful One? I think that's what they're called?

>>52827253

I'm personally a fan of Shitty Kitty.

>>52827274

Which character did you apply to Blingmaker with?

>>52827328

>26

Try being 30 and seeing people make characters who are in their early 20s.

>>52827404
STOP

>>52827328
I turned 26 this year. I can't tell you how much damage learning the phrase "christmas cake" from you fucks has done to my self-esteem.

>>52827420
That only applies to Japanese women.

>>52827420
If it helps, nobody actually thinks like that about women.

It's just limp-dick japanese fuckers and the pathetic weebs who want to be them.

>>52827420

Well, just remember that it's a stupid idea that some pissy Japanese dudes came up with because they want to sleep with seventeen-year-olds.

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>>52827404
It really fucks me up to think about how close that is, especially when I realize how fucked up I already am.

>>52827420
Anon, you've just reminded me that my sister is around that age

>>52827420
AHHH MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP

I'VE GOT FOUR MONTHS DAMNIT SOMEONE MARRY ME

>>52827420
>tfw 23 but still virgin

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>>52827488

>>52827445
>>52827440
Even the fucking metaphor is idiotic.

Think about it: You deny cake just because "Oh, it simply isn't done to eat cake except on the proper date and in the proper context. What would people say?"
It's the most Japanese fucking thing in the world.

I asked last thread and didn't really get an answer so I'll try again.

Is DHB's initiator class any good? Has anyone played it?

I gave it a look over and it mostly seems to be about buffing/this weird 'lab' mechanic.

>>52827508
No it's because no one wants to buy christmas theme'd cakes after christmas. It's the same reason halloween candy goes on discount.

>>52827509
nobody's played it

>>52827440
It's from 80s-90s japan, modern Japan doesn't even use it.

>>52827524
Nigga that's the ONLY time to buy it. It's half off because stupid assholes think you're not supposed to buy it anymore.

>>52827537
Hey anon, nothing wrong with liking a little christmas cake >:D

>>52827537
I mean like yeah, I'd buy them on discount to eat myself but I'm not gonna try and pretend it's still fresh. I'll eat stale cake because I have low standards.

>>52827460

Do you want or need a dutiful househusband who knows how to cook and clean?

I need your insight, /pfg/. I've heard a lot of complaints that a lot of Magus Arcana don't work with the Sphere Magus. But I just went over the list of Arcana and everything seems to work just fine. What gives? Is it just having to use your spell points instead of having a proper Arcane Pool?

Anyone have the alternate catfolk racials doc? I need options on the available cat people for a character concept.

>>52827619
Its more that magus arcana are worthless for spheres magus

Honestly just make a Hedgewitch with the combat tradition

>>52827619
Magus Arcana is garbage because it uses your spell pool instead of a separate Arcane Pool. All the effects are SHIT compared to just casting a fucking spell.

>>52827639
Would access to an Arcane Pool be sufficient, or is something more needed?

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>>52827446
>It really fucks me up to think about how close that is, especially when I realize how fucked up I already am.

You know what the worst part, the WORST part is?

Once you hit 30, it's over, as far as business is concerned. You walk into an interview at that age and people will be turning you down because they're already thinking they'll only get a good 20 years of work out of you before retirement.

YOU'RE LOCKED IN, MAN. YOU IN RETAIL AT 30 YOU GONNA STAY IN RETAIL.

>>52827657
an arcane pool would be all it takes, yes

>>52827666
thats not true actually

>>52826512
A kilo of feathers is a damn nice pillow.
A kilo of bricks is a brick, and far less comfortable to lug around no matter how you try to set it up.

>>52827666
You have a bad day at work there, Gareth?

>>52827666
>before retirement
Thanks for the misinfo, Satan. But in this era? No one's retiring. Everyone's gonna be working until they die, and with advancements in medicines, everyone's gonna to end up living longer. So enjoy working until the ripe age of 160.

>>52827723

You could beat the crap out of the guy with the nice pillow with the kilo of bricks.

>>52827728
Not if i'm not part of the Proletariat, pleb.

>>52827666
Gareth please go.

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>>52827728

I'm beginning to understand why the NEET life is so appealing, or becoming a bene-bux boy.

>>52827747
Not gonna be able to afford life extending medicine on NEET bux.

>>52827420
Christmas cake belongs in the trash.

>>52827774
Literal faggot.

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>>52827774

I'm getting the urge to make a 26-30+ year old noblewoman who either never married (And is now considered "too old") or just doesn't see herself ever marrying at all.

>>52827793
Fuck Christmas cake. I want my pie, sweet pumpkin pie.

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Why does /pfg/ hate Spheres of Might?

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You hanging in there, /pfg/?

>>52827818
And then she falls for the young, virile just turned 18 Myrmidon hunk?

>>52827828
Because it's kind of wonky and unbalanced, but mostly because the devs are making questionable decisions and being kind of standoffish rather than fixing what problems it does have.

>>52827828
SoM is fucking awesome. I finally get to play my crotchety old goblin tinker using mechanics that don't suck total ass.

>>52827857

No, but that doesn't stop her from enjoying him.

>>52827488
>tfw 26 and only stuck your slam into one jam

>>52827869
The devs have been very responsive from what I've seen. I'd still like to see a bit of a boost to Scholar, but otherwise I don't see what people keep talking about.

> kind of wonky and unbalanced
In their defense, there's only so much that can be done when they're constrained by a system that was in itself constrained by 3.5.

>>52827848
I am. And I want you to know that we're here for you, man.

>>52827848
Regret.

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>>52827848
I'll be hanging in just fine in a little while.

Friendly reminder that Ezren was an honest to god NEET before the neetbux stopped flowing in.

Same with Alain, but he only got out because he knocked up a few too many girls.

>>52827848
We're all going to make it guys.

We're all going to make it.

>>52827904

Thank you.

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How would it feel to realize that everyone's after the same NPC?
Would it change how you feel about them to realize that every single PC in your party effectively ran a train on them in the space of an in-game hour?

>>52827999

I need a story on this, because that last detail is way too specific to just be generic shitposting on how slutty Shayliss is.

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http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/bonded-mind-teamwork/
>Bonded Mind (Teamwork)

>You and your partner are so close that you can almost read each other’s minds.

>Benefit(s): As long as you can see each other, you and an ally who also has this feat can trade nonverbal messages. These function as the message spell, except that you don’t need to whisper or point, and you cannot be overheard.

A cavalier or a warlord can share this teamwork feat with others, and all of this is purely (Ex). How is spontaneously gifting the party with telepathy through (Ex) methods supposed to be explained?

>>52827726
>Gareth
>having a not-bad day at work
What?

>>52828026
IRL game that's basically I Can't Believe It's Not Kingmaker, our home base is a "dance hall."
I thought it was all just the usual intrigue when people started passing notes to the GM. I decided to just pass a note saying I was gonna go visit the one girl he'd mentioned who turned me on to make people think I had a secret plan going on.

Then it turned out everyone else had been going to the same girl for various reasons.

>>52827774
STOOOP

It's kind of silly, but trust me. I'm not being sarcastic when I post this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6LovY_DdEE

>>52828047
>How is spontaneously gifting the party with telepathy through (Ex) methods supposed to be explained?

Bonded Mind came from the Distant Shores campaign book, specifically as a unique style of training taught by the Iridian Fold.

The Iridian Fold only train gay couples - not lesbians, not a man and a woman, but two men. They say it's because women contain a thousand voices from a thousand nascent souls within their wombs, and thus drown out the voice of your partner during Bonding.

And then Paizo went and FUCKING RUINED IT by making a rival school called, in mockery of their reasons, the Iridian Choir, who train lesbians, couples and even three partners.

>>52828047
You're missing the fluff of the feat. It's meant for gay couples that are part of a specific sect. Realistically though, you can just fluff it as giving people "the look".

>>52828094
True enough, but say your lover's taken a vow of silence--this could be a really cute way to still be able to talk with them and relay their thoughts to the party.

>>52828047

IT JUST WERKS

>>52828085

Well, that was a surprisingly uplifting 22 seconds.

>>52828047
An incredibly intricate system of eyebrow movements and nostril flaring.

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>>52827774
Kill yourself my friend.

>ynw spoil your older coworker with a good meal

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>>52828105
>but say your lover's taken a vow of silence

Or your lover can't speak at all.

>>52828094

I thought the devs had said that the whole "gay superpower" thing was just the sect being sexist?

You guys seem a little down. You might be feeling alone, even, but remember Anons.

I'll always be with you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bavZbQHbuOk

>>52827848
No, but I was never "in there" in the first place. That's what happens when you inherit the worst parts of a suicidally-depressed New Yorker who later goes full fire-and-brimstone Baptist and an old Marine who never left his comic book phase and was never very good with money. I am everything that is terrible about both of them and almost none of what's good.

But I'm used to it, which I guess is why I haven't tried to do what mom tried to do. I know it could be worse. I could be homeless or starving, or living in a war zone but I'm not. Doesn't make what is going on hurt less, but I know it could always be worse.

We'll see how long that advantage lasts me.

Wow, okay, that was a much longer blogpost than I was intending. Quick, name something Pathfinder-related I should ask a dumb question about.

>>52828128
Exactly!

>>52827888
That's okay with me. I'd be really happy if one day she realizes she really, really loves his cooking.

>>52828125
>ynw spoil your older coworker with a good meal

I do this every Thursday with the extra flank steak stew I make every Wednesday.

>>52828140

Yup, see >>52828093

Paizo actually grew a pair of balls with saying the Iridian Fold is gay exclusive, but immediately tore 'em off with the Iridian Choir.

>>52828047
Nonverbal cues and body language. Sign language like the one spec ops are using. Just being that much in sync with each other that you know what you are thinking and going to do. Notice how it mentions that you have to see each other and doesn't explicitly say that you are not using your body. That pointing part is only to make the message spell analogy clearer.

>>52828163

Does Elemental Spell change the spell descriptor if you completely change the damage type?

How does it feel /pfg/ that DHB can hold down an actually well paying job despite his autism and you're just a NEET?

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>>52828128
>>52828165

>mfw you'll never meet a qtp2t that would do this duo-app pairing.

>>52828189
I would but
1. No time to pley
2. There isn't a mute oracle curse, the best I cant think of mechanical mute-ness is the one bard archetype

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>>52828174
>extra flank steak stew
>tfw you'll never eat anon's flank steak stew while stargazing in front of a bonfire next to a river.

>>52828189
I'm considering running a 4-player game where everyone applies as duo-apps.

Any interest?

>>52828218
Fuck off, you tried this once and no one took the bait.

>>52828189
Well, you could always roleplay something like that in PMs.
Or just keep applying to games and modify your character partway through when someone you PM seems receptive to the idea.

>>52828218

Oh, absolutely! I'd definitely be interested, what are the run times?

>>52828201

It's got shiitake mushrooms, carrots and the meat's all painstakingly cubed and thrown back in to cook.

Served over a bed of rice with a piece of sourdough bread.

>>52828218
If it's a game that doesn't flat out say "This will be boring, I canot teh spellz, and or I will leave on the first session", then you will get apps. The GM-Player disparity is that bad.

>>52828186
I'd assume so.

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>>52828248
>that spoiler
Stop it anon. I can only get so depressed.

C A L I F O R N I A?

>>52828236
I'd honestly be surprised if people didn't. I once GM'd a thing that was literally "I feel like GMing. Throw some apps at me and I'll whip something up" and I got like 8 apps.

>>52828248
You're reminding me of my goddamn favorite Hashbrown recipe, anon

Crispy hashbrowns, pour a scrambled egg mix over them halfway through and make sure it's all coated. After that, chop up some onions and layer it with cheese. Then after that, fry some ham, bacon, and sausage, slice them up, and sprinkle it over the top. Sauce is optional, but you can take a ramekin, mix up about half mayo, half ketchup, put some generic seasoning in, then stir it all up before scooping it onto it. It's hearty, delicious, and M E A T Y

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>>52828275

You know what'll cheer you up? Soup in a fresh-baked breadbowl.

>>52828300
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>52828275

I'll make you delicious food in a campaign, anon!

>>52828300
Actually I'm making this thing I saw linked in the Discord.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVS6nodKlIc

>>52828359
T-thank you.

>>52828218
Even better, a 4-player game where everyone quadro-apps.

>>52828189
>you will never play a mute character alongside a blind character

>>52828385

I'd make a blind character if you made a mute!

So, did the guy who said he wanted to do Pretty Paladins in Peril ever actually do so?

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>>52828375

While we're talking about super easy cooking tips. Here's one that everyone might know, but I'll say it just to be sure.

Set the oven to 350 degrees. Take a muffin tray, coat the inside of the muffin tray with that good ole anti-stick stuff. Crack some eggs into the muffin slots. Put it in the oven for 14 minutes.

Congrats, you got instant delicious eggs.

>>52828416
Or you could just cook one in a pan in like a second

>>52828416
I want to put a bun in your oven.

>>52828402
Fun fact: With one level of Master of Many Styles Monk, the Blind Zeal trait, and Blinded Zeal trait, you can actually make a really effective blind character who has blindsight within the first few levels..

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>>52828375
>T-thank you.

W-Wait, what campaigns are you currently in or applying to? We might already be together!

>>52828218
>duo-app game

Well, I'd consider it at least?

!! Overlewd Update !!
Official theme of your enemy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urxk4mveLCw

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>>52828431
/pfg/ meme characters now get together and have a kid. What do those kids look like?

>>52828174
>Paizo actually grew a pair of balls with saying the Iridian Fold is gay exclusive, but immediately tore 'em off with the Iridian Choir.
The whole idea is bullshit, though, which is the point. It's not magical, it's literally just reading expressions really fucking well. There is absolutely no reason that it should be gay-specific, and a bunch of mumbo jumbo about "a thousand womb voices" or whatever couldn't be any more obvious as a bullshit excuse for gay guys to keep women out of their gay guy club.

>>52828468
>meme characters
What, *all* of them? At once? Or are we going to roll randomly to pair them off?

>>52828456
I'm in a private game with some friends and applied to Blingmaker and Overlewds.

>>52828180
Which you teach all of your allies within the span of seconds... and they forget as soon as one minute later.

>>52828475
No, pick two meme characters, like Casimir and Quinn or Glorianna and Rory, and theorycraft what such an abomination would look like. Although if someone were to provide a list of /pfg/'s most memed list, that would let us roll to determine pairs. Maybe have a few MM and FF pairings in there as well

>>52828485
Just like teaching real life new workers!

>tfw I have to teach a dumbass FNG how to turn on the lights cause they don't listen the first three times

You know a game is awesome when the party maid crits someone with a dinner fork.

Whats the best two hander for a zwei sentinel?
Should I go Greatsword or Greataxe?

>>52828504
>No, pick two meme characters, like Casimir and Quinn or Glorianna and Rory

Don't we already have two meme pairings of meme characters? Valeriya and Casimir, Seht and Onryou? Why don't you work with those and expand from that?

>>52828537
N O D A C H I
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>>52828537
>Update
>>52828537
Neither.

Get a reach weapon

>>52828537
NODAACHIII

>>52828544
*fauchard
Wayfinder, remember

>>52828528

I need more story to this.

>>52828575
We've been over this wayfinder anon

Not all Ioun stones are resonant.

>>52828537
Dwarven longhammer. Crush skulls from 10 feet away, with a nifty 2d6 and 20/x3 combo.

Plus, reach weapons are just plain better for Zwei Sentinels, since that one ability only grants a conditional increase in reach to non-reach weapons, but the allowance of reach weapon to attack adjacent is always active.

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Opinions on Serpents Skull?

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>>52828575
>walk into Anti-Magic Field
>gif related happens when you try to use your weapon.

>>52828300
Breadbowls are shit. Don't get me wrong, they're delicious, but never EVER order one at a restaurant. They're just using it as an excuse to give you less soup than normal, since breadbowls hold a deceptively small amount of soup. Making it at home though? Sure, go nuts.

>>52828537

Grab a longspear, by level 6 you're able to hit things right next to you without a penalty anyway.

>>52828484

Centarius, good luck!

>>52828577

Dragon's one is still improgress, currently doing a Ballroom Blitz

>>52828579
Then get another, because feats for money is always worth it! A GM arbitrarily shafting you over this *repeatedly* is what I'd call a pretty exceptional circumstance.

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>>52828596

Kill 'em all, lads.

KILL 'EM ALL.

>>52828603
its RNG based so

>>52828603
No feats for money is bullshit and I make a point to ban items that grant feats.

>>52828464
Fuck, now I want to play the antagonist faction of that game.
What can I say? A good singing voice counts for a lot.

>>52828537
Bardiche, Lucerne hammer, glaive-guisarme, or the fauchard (if the 2k gp ioun stone thing works by your GM).

>>52828631
Removing Weapon Focus as a build-devouring tax is a SYSTEM FIX that Paizo was LATE in implementing if anything. Why the fuck would you act to UNFIX something in Pathfinder?

>>52828543
Right. Certainly... There's a few that come to mind. Gloriana x Sigmund, Cashmere x Troll, Quinn x Gnoll, Etan x Shayliss, such and such. Maybe Rory shipped with somebody meme-y for maximum salt, we need to collect all the , maybe didn't he bone a Priscilla-lookalike?. Who HASN'T been shipped with anybody?

>>52828657
Because the fix is stupid thematically.

>>52828659
I was about to say me, but then I remember someone shipped my app with Seska, so...

>>52828590
Don't go in antimagic fields, they're unhealthy.

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>>52828579
>>52828603
Wayfinders have Method 1 and Method 2 and neither are the default.

The GM is totally free to just say "We're using Method 2 in this game brahs."

>>52828694
Neither are traits or VMC default, but you're 100% fine with talking about those like they're allowed in every game. Because they are. The GM will allow it and will let the implementation that is simple and requires least work from them go.

Tell me /pfg/, where do you get your character art?

I've been considering visiting a Drawthread to request some art, but I'm currently debating it since I don't have too good references for the character that aren't pinup pics

>>52828723
I just sift Danbooru until I get an idea-boner and then craft a sheet around it.

>>52828723
Some of the boorus, pixiv, e621

>>52828659

Okay, let's see if I can't get through them from top to bottom,
>Sigmund x Gloriana - Almost all of them are brown-haired, with a random spread of green eyes or hazel. The kids are extremely healthy and will undoubtedly grow up to have astounding figures, but they aren't special when it comes to matters of the mind
>Cashmere x Troll - It's like those Trolls from Berserk. The child tears itself out of Cashmere, eats her, and runs off
>Quinn x Gnoll - Gnolls are incompatible with humans
>Etan x Shayliss - Depends on how Kitsune traits are inherited, it could either be blondes and redheads with vulpine features and charming, clever dispositions, or raven-haired charmers which will cause Etan to undoubtedly get quite fussy at the supposed infidelity.
>Rory x Maid - We already know how these ones are going to pop out. Xboxhuge, tough, strong, platinum blonde and FLUFFY TAIL

>>52828744
>>Quinn x Gnoll - Gnolls are incompatible with human
Someone didn't read bloodforge...

>>52828723
Passively search pixiv, occasionally follow character art threads on /tg/, danbooru/gelbooru if I have a specific thing in mind, actively search pixiv through tags and related bookmarks if all else fails.

This is mostly for weeb art, though I believe there is a booru for more western /tg/ art. Grognard booru I think it was?

>>52828504
>No, pick two meme characters
Iolanthe x gnoll