Amazons

>>52824081
Drow. Dark elf is an excuse for anything from world-building standpoint.

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>>52824081
They are descendants of human warrior who slayed and tamed many terrible monsters. He was known for his strength and courage but had no sons, leaving it to his three daughters to continue his line. Amazons preserve traditions of their legendary ancestor and grandmothers. They are favored of the Earth Goddess and the Great Huntress and enjoy their blessings and protection.

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It's a setting where different races have patron gods and goddesses. Elves were created by the god of the forest, dwarves were created by the god of crafting, etc.

Amazons are an all female race created by an Artemis-style goddess of hunting and virgin maidens. They are mostly human but tend to be taller and more muscular. They live in cloistered societies mostly separate from "The World of Man" and lean toward Fighter, Ranger, and Cleric-like classes.

Reproduction could be like some kind of mystical ceremony where the head priestess asks for their goddess to bless a mighty warrior with a daughter or something.

>>52824081
For the hard mode: They drink from a magic spring that causes them to become immensely strong, and lay eggs instead of giving birth to live babies. The slave underclass cares for the infants while the amazons go fight wars.

>>52824081
>The Men went out hunting one day and never came back
They prayed for help and a traveling wizard cast a spell of fecundity on their lands
It backfired and now all their children are born female, all their food plants are huge and every creature from miles around wants to attack them.
If an Amazon dies another identical tougher amazon will grow in the dirt to replace her.
Amazons can have children with anything
If an Amazon has a child the daughter will have all the desirable traits of the father
They've had to Git Gud at fighting and the Manly arts because none else will help them.and they don't want to dilute the bloodline down with shitty Goblin amazons.

>>52824081

Basically this>>52824535

Musclegirl, Femdom and throw in taking the best males back home for breeding stock with some lesbian romance to top it off and you get the fetish answer

Have them be a cultural thing with a logical origin: generations ago, a great war decimated the masculine members of their race, forcing the women to take on traditionally "male" role. Even after the gender disparity caught up, "men's work" had become the traditional prerogative of the females - this works well with a slow-breeding race like elves or dwarves.

This could have been further bolstered by a cult that gained in prominence, basically blaming the menfolk for getting caught up in a war that killed them off. This could just have led to culture revisionism so men are no longer trusted to do warrior things, or have even led to things like subtly distributing alchemical poisons that alter the gender ratio, ensuring men can never hold dominance due to being outnumbered by women.
Alternatively, go with a savage race where the womenfolk are traditionally oppressed (orcs, ogres, gnolls, etc) but as violent as the males and have them get sick of the abuse; a literal gender rebellion later, and the females make their own culture to ensure they will never be slaves again. Generations later and they still persist because tradition is a powerful damn force.

>>52824579
is it only hymen breaking or is anything sexual a count against virginity?

>>52824081
>all-woman-warrior society
The only way this can be done is by making them reproduce asexually. If they are a sexually reproducing species, they cannot exist without men, no matter how many times women declare men "obsolete" in their narcissistic arrogance.

I guess the closest you can get is
>Women are naturally stronger than men
>2 women are born for every 1 man
>Half of those women are sterile
>Said sterile women form the warrior class

>>52824081
Simple. They're acually not humans, but a non-sexually dimorphic race that does consist of male and female, but there's no difference most humanoids would notice other than a very intimate examination of their genitalia. They birth 90% twins, so males and females alike are capable of breast feeding, and because their species lives in a very violent and tumultuous environ, both male and females need to be hardy and strong to protect themselves and their children from the various hazards.

This often leads to them thinking males and females of other races are actually distinct species, however. they also can tell the differences between other non-dimorphic species such as serpent-folk, lizardmen, and most aberrations.

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>>52824808
>Alternatively, go with a savage race where the womenfolk are traditionally oppressed
>Gnolls

I thought female Hyenas were in charge due to the whole size-difference and awkward urethra-birthing-penis issue?

Is that not true in gnolls??

>>52824081
They eat a special fruit that works like steroids and amps up aggression, but only has an effect on females.

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Simple. Ditch the derpy ass idea that in an amazonian society, men are effeminate pansies; instead, men do manual labor etc. like normal.

In this purely hypothetical culture, soldiers spend more time polishing boots, starching and iron uniforms, and arranging stacks of gear in a nice, pretty fashion than actually training to fight. Physical conditioning emphasizes keeping soldiers healthy and being able to run rather than hitting hard, and unarmed combat training prioritizes stuff not too strength dependent joint locks rather than simply shoving your fist through the enemy's face. At the same time, this purely hypothetical military has problems; for example, due to the soft heart of their civilian leadership, they have faced defeat repeatedly due to them being unwilling to resort to brutal tactics.

>>52824921
>Is that not true in gnolls?
It's a /tg/ meme that furries came up with. No basis in fantasy RPG's.
I don't mind gnolls being a matriarchal society and it would even be cool, but I'm afraid I would now never be able to divorce this idea from the sick fucks who came up with it on /tg/.

>>52824081
I'm running a game set in ancient greec so if they ever have to appear I think I'll stay true to the myths (even if stronk women and snu snu are my fetish).Man hating powerful tribals, killing the sons and keeping the girl, reproduce when needed a ditch the husband after the children are born.

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>>52824081

The Lakshu?

Green Haired Alien Amazoms from Spelljammer?

>>52824916
so girls and shemales, I can dig it

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>>52824916
>>52825078
That does bring up a very important question: is shemale-on-female porn more or less gay than male-on-female porn?

>>52825068
God I miss that setting.

Too bad my players are FUCKING RETARDED and can't stand me having fun.

>>52824993
And at the same time, since other cultures think of them as just "the warrior women" when men still have important roles, Amazons may think of other cultures as unnecessarily violent--what kind of brutes would reduce an entire culture to their warriors, after all?

>>52824770
>Musclegirl, Femdom and throw in taking the best males back home for breeding stock with some lesbian romance to top it off and you get the fetish answer

Throw in feminine benis and nazi occultist mythology and take out the men being brought back and you have the /d/ answer
also my autistic fapfiction

>>52825099
its all about that matters to you more, the body itself or the parts attached to the body, is it more gay to like a shemale or a C-Boy to you?

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>>52825108

Yeah

I never see it talked about

Which is a real shame because Spelljammer is great

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>>52824081
Amazons are easy to make you just need and "take seriously." You just need two ingredients:

1. Ancient magic/curse/plot device placed on them makes it so some arbitrarily large percent of of their offspring are female.

2. Add them to a dangerous location that forces them to be a society of hunters and warriors.

You can make it more or less fetishy by having or not having things like "Man hunts", Amazons as easily the strongest type of human in your setting, and super festishy feminization magic your should only ever have in ERPs.

Things I avoid but seem to be a staple of using Amazons is a cultural fascination with males. Examples include: Amazons outright viewing males as inferior or special things that need to be tenderly cared for.

blatant fetish bait:
Avoid almost anything that could be seen as fetish bait then reveal hermaphrodites.

>>52825121

nazi occultist mythology?

>>52824081
they are are a tribe that actually is not species exclusive who worship a nature goddess of fertility, hunting and Noble warfare (i.e. war with a purpose) a member is known by her flexible armor, ritual scars that are then inked, and a preference for ranged and reach weapons. People often seek them out as mercenaries, they work for favores, sometimes they request a recently married couple to join their tribe, they are usually never seen again.

The Goddess's blessing makes each new new couple turn into new tribe members, turning male and female alike into functioning hermaphrodites, this is done to ensure new blood and wisdom is always cycled into the tribe and they don't culturally stagnate even with respect to their traditions

>>52825217
you mean like >>52825244

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>>52825217
>Amazons outright viewing males as [...] special things that need to be tenderly cared for
>These Amazons will never be real
Sadness covers me like a blanket. Tuck me in, let me die.

>>52824081
If you want the society to be all women, but don't want to use a magical explanation for reproduction, one possibility is that they're from an immortal or long-lived race. So this same society of warrior women has been the same set of people since 4000 years ago, with the numbers slowly dwindling. They might have started out as a group the size of modern Iceland, but are now just a large tribe.

All of those survivors now have millennia of skill, strength, and savvy. They pick their fights carefully, and they never lose anymore.

DM had one where to keep his thumb on them, a villain basically killed all the men of a society. So it wasn't a natural thing, but it was a female society.

>>52825108
You know it's the DM's who are rare, not players, right?

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>>52825231

started out just wanting a pretext for uniforms and then taking influence from prison gangs (because rape), spiraled out of control to the point that I was mapping the neopagan nazi futa cult's mythology onto Blavatskyan pseudo-historical "cycles" along with copious amounts of Norse and near eastern mythology, and then writing this in a faux-translation form, as if it were a real historical document like the Iliad or Gilgamesh
naturally requiring shemale-versions of norse pagan gods and then their own mythology and creation-myth and so on and so forth

Basically /tg/+/d/+/pol/+/lit/

>>52824081
Elves don't have human biology, so perhaps Corellon Larethorn demanded the women make up the warrior class for some inane reason like making up for Lolth's betrayal?
or >>52824331

>>52824993

That's fine, but you still need to make them a military power to be feared. Your representation makes them sound fairly ineffective, and if that was the case they would likely have been conquered by their neighbors already.

Perhaps, while there are certain tactics they consider brutal and beneath them, there are likewise other tactics that the amazons consider perfectly fine but others consider cheating? For example, the amazons utilize a paralytic poison on their weapons during war which can turn even a grazing wound into a swift defeat, even death if you are unlucky enough to get cut too much. The amazon consider this a mercy, as it allows them to take many of their enemies alive. But their neighbor don't see it that way, especially since there is no known antidote to render their forces immune prior to the battle.

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>>52825478
Can you give a link?

>>52824081

I just make them their own species, like elves. For them, sexual dimorphism went the other way. Aside from their females being the larger and stronger sex, they are mostly similar to humans. Their people are stronger than us overall, so their 'weaker' men are basically on par with an average not especially strong human, but their women are significantly stronger than our men.

They are seen as isolationist, since they find our culture just as weird as we find theirs. The myth that their society is all or mostly women is a result of them considering the outside world dangerous, and only send those trained to defend themselves out into it on rare missions. Which usually means soldiers, which to them means women.

>>52824081
>perspective.jpg

>>52824081
All female unit with winged mounts- the reason being that women tend to be smaller and weigh less than men, making them easier to carry, which is loads more important in the air than on land.
It's sort of a weak excuse, but peak women's physical stats in terms of Olympic world records tend to be about 90% of peak male stats, so the trade-off would be fair from a handwavy perspective.
Plus, one of the sex-based differences in athletic performance is hemoglobin in the blood, so women that specialize in high-air climates might slowly tighten that gap just a little more.
Basically:
>Mountain-based society that trains birds for an air cavalry
>Over the long term women become the leaders of the warrior class
>Possibly a male homeguard, but mostly if not all women warriors

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Shit, now I wana give it a shot:

>SFW-Serious Content
-Their Society/Civilization isn't actually all that "primitive", but instead based more on ancient greek culture and technology: Amazonian women creating large, functioning, aggressive military-societies capable of excellent bronze-working, academics, architecture, valuing strength, practicality, and beauty in all the things they make.

-Amazonian stereotype could be based more on the mercenaries, bandits, or other such women exiled from proper amazonian society and now must live on the outskirts of their territory. Exposing themselves to outside influences and the whole, "brutish warrior women". An Amazonian with one of her breasts cut off is actually the physically punishment/brand of a rapist, but exiles have been playing it off as "improving archery" for decades.

-They don't give birth to Men. Ever. That doesn't mean they think Men are "inferior"; they're just foreign.

>NSFW-Fetish Content
-They're all black, muscular, strong-jawed, Dmitrys-Hentai-Shemales; with nary a vagina amongst any of them. They sexually reproduce entirely through urethral insertion and give birth through their urethra.

-Their Society has a prominent social attachment to scarring; Scars are a sign of battle experience and subject of pride. In times of peace (or those who are affluent enough to avoid warfare) Amazonians compensate by giving themselves large visible piercings: Nipple, Genital, and Nose being the most popular.

-Amazonians aren't actually attracted to outside women and are usually more interested in dating men- purely on the basis that it is, "foreign/exotic".

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>>52825531
I never uploaded it anywhere ;_;

The mythology part is only about 1/5 finished and the near-future rapegang part is one of those things where you can just keep writing new stories/scenarios if you want, kind of aimless, maybe 50 pages done.

Work got bogged down in the epic poems within the mythological text within the near-future narrative

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>>52825980
>social attachment to scarring

One boob or two?

>>52826082
>ruining perfectly good tits

>>52825099
>>52825078
No, other humanoids can't tell the difference between male and females visually - they both look female unless you examine the insides. Scent reveals their gender just fine though.Their main sexual position is tribbing; not much else gets the deed done.

>>52826127

that's what the "real" amazons did according to Greek mythology, to make archery easier

Rip off Final Fantasy's Mithra:

divine magic made it so women are physically competitive with men, and much more numerous - maybe 80% of the population.

Then conceal the magical realm by changing the cosmetics and making them catfolk.

They are an offshoot of an all female religion devoted to the many aspects of a moon goddess. They particularly worship the Full Moon Aspect, The Mother, which is her warrior aspect.

They believe that they must achieve as much martial mastery so that when they die and their souls are called upon by the Mother to fight demons in the afterlife.

They are particularly known for their knowledge of alchemy and special medicines to make them physically powerful as well as their intense training.

>>52826185
So, Mi'qote.

>>52826147
>>52826082

there were no contemporary accounts of the one-boob thing; it's almost certainly an embellishment the Victorians tacked on later to make them seem weird and scary.

also chopping off a boob would not have been a realistically survivable operation given the medical knowledge of the day. no, cauterizing the boob-hole with a hot rock would not have helped. the amazons would have gone extinct almost instantly after coming up with that rule.

also having two boobs doesn't interfere with archery in any way unless you are holding the bow like a retard, which presumably a martial/hunter society would train their warriors not to do.

>>52824081
>how would you go about making an all-woman-warrior society that could be taken seriously?
Males act as diplomats, for they are just as tough.

Add a creation myth involving women, and have a blood line involved with the women.

Case in point, Spain. Sure there is a King and what not, but during a certain period of time, the last name that was used was the mother's.

Also, its just a game.

>how would you make them blatant fetish bait, but still be taken seriously?

Become Zonette, the littlest princess of the Amazons.

Bring one royal guard for every other fetishable asset to you, and a role of interest for the other PCs to connect with: a motherly figure for the character with the family issues, and for your momcest fantasy if there is; a pair for the barbaric warrior, just for thicc for you.

Whatever the case, do not shoehorn them, do not force them to the PCs or the players.

>>52824081
Anti-Dwarves.

No sexual dimorphism, everyone presents as female, everyone is giant muscular women but some of them have dicks.

>>52824081
>how would you go about making an all-woman-warrior society that could be taken seriously?
You can't, because if you need to "convince someone to take it seriously", then they are already so disinclined to do so that attempting would be a waste of time.
See
>>52824875
>>52824916
>>52824993
All examples of skirting the spirit of the intent because they could not accept the premise even in a mild fantasy setting.

>>52824579
So what happens if one gets raped.

>>52824081
They're the servants/daughters/wives of the God of War. Those who take the oath are granted strength, endurance, and stature and learn the arts of war at one of his temples and/or monasteries.

S&SK-S: Regardless of which of the three they are counted as their main purpose is to find men greater than them and to bear their children so that all the world's strength is tied to the War God.

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>>52824081
>an all-woman-warrior society
>taken seriously

lewl, you don't, it's inherently ridiculous and just magical realm.

>>52824081
One ancient society was hyper sexist.

Magic exists.

A bunch of women in that society learned magic, said "fuck this", locate-city-nuked their society and built a new one.

They then used magic to make all their female children grow stronger than the strongest men automatically, without training.

>>52824081
Chinese amazons with incredible weeaboo fightan magic powers and Technicolor hair.

>>52827559

>Boner, we had a deal
>I HAVE ALTERED THE DEAL!

I had an amazon styled society as background for an Only War unit the party encountered.

Their planet had been invaded by a Nurgle chaos force. After several years of warfare, only a handful of the Nurgle marines were left. As their dying stroke, they unleashed a genebomb that killed every man, and it had the unforseen side effect of genetically damaged the women so they could only bear female children.

The planet was highly technological, and to prevent their culture from dying, they developed a way to splice two eggs into an embryo and implant it.

Thus they are an amazon society perpetuated by a form of cloning that combines two women's eggs.

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>>52827614
>>52827559

>>52825525
>That's fine, but you still need to make them a military power to be feared. Your representation makes them sound fairly ineffective, and if that was the case they would likely have been conquered by their neighbors already.

I was satirically (but lovingly) describing the US military to attempt to half assedly prove a point: the US military is plenty effective and yet at every step of the level it takes pains to keep from having to make assumptions about how buff its dudemen are, and it has elements that are stereotypically girly as well (civilian leaders that are so soft hearted they sabotage their own side, and the fixation on dress up and prettifying uniforms). Much of this is just normal military stuff too, not unique to the US military.

>>52827267

The "serious" answer is that the stuff that would lead to warrior women being effective are just natural military innovations -- emphasis on reach weapons and crossbows plus good organization are all you need. So "how are they effective??" isn't a hard question at all.

To add to this, all you need is the CULTURAL question, why girls do the military thing. So my suggestion is quite simple -- if you want it to be a culture with fairly normal """"""""patriarchal"""""""" values, go right ahead. Its a culture in which men, as in ours, tend towards the most dangerous and dull toil, but its also a culture with little need for anything but that + military force. So the guys tend to take the mining, manual labor, etc., but there is no need for softer civilian tasks.

Meanwhile, the military is just really damn interesting for the women, for whatever reason. Perhaps its that its viewed as a highly social and romantic task, perhaps its the easiest or most comfortable job of those that remain, perhaps female warriors are highly fetishized. Perhaps women really fucking love to travel and playing with the cool animals they get as mounts and scouts. Maybe the benefits of joining the military are irresistible and highly necessary to women but dismissed by the vast majority of men.

If you can't get past the idea of men being protective of women, many RPG settings have enough subtle/urban monsters that all points are equidistant with regards to danger, or close to it. Mining could be viewed as legitimately more dangerous than the military in a D&Dish setting -- miners may have to contend with subterranean monstrosities 24/7 while all soldiers have to face 99% of the time are weak as hell level 1 plebs.

Remember that in a world filled with anthopophagi and hostile aliens and mutants, normal logic about risk and reward may be totally out of whack.

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This thread has too many gay faglor/d/s and not enough good art to thrive

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> Semi-tribal culture
> Males are the way they are in most cultures
> Females are mostly the same as they are in any culture, but it's a matrilineal/matrifocal society, since they're the record keepers
> Sometimes, as a result of war or accident, a woman loses someone close to her, or experiences shame or dishonor so great that death would be preferable
> Woman visits the female shamans of the tribe, who mark her with burial rites
> Takes sacred vows, including cultural taboos against wearing anything but fur, working the land, owning property, associating with the living, etc.
> Voluntarily gets possessed by a demon that lives in her uterus, giving supernatural strength and ferocity
> Also makes her barren, because the demon takes the place of any children she might have in the future
> Gets put into warrior-cults on the outskirts of tribal territory,
where her aggression and physical power won't be a threat to the rest of the tribe
> Other women in the warrior-cult end up being like a new family, because they're the only ones who understand what she's going through and could survive her wrath if she really cut loose
> Males bring them food and water, but otherwise treat them as fearful living saints
> Periodically take their aggression out in massive hunting parties, where they hunt prey or anything that might threaten their tribe

The civilized folk call them "Hamazakaran," which means "War-Makers" in their tongue. Others to the West call them "Amazons," a crude joke as to their sexlessness, for none of them can bear children.

But their tribe merely calls them the Kurgan, for that is where they dwell -- among the barrows. They are already dead.

>>52827559
S-Sauce?

>>52827559
Source, please? GIS is coming up empty.

>>52826241

Mi'qote are literally worse Mithra.

>>52824081
have the macho ones protect the cute loli wizard ones.

>>52825478
I will point out that Himmler's personal Rune expert, Karl Maria 'Weisthor' Wiligut, had a great many theories about the millennia of ancient Aryan history, including the eventual realization that it was actually a matriarchy.
The fact that he was quietly retired not long after this realization was probably a coincidence.

>>52826385
>there were no contemporary accounts of the one-boob thing
>Hippocrates describes them as: "They have no right breasts...for while they are yet babies their mothers make red-hot a bronze instrument constructed for this very purpose and apply it to the right breast and cauterize it, so that its growth is arrested, and all its strength and bulk are diverted to the right shoulder and right arm."
>http://perseus.uchicago.edu/perseus-cgi/citequery3.pl?dbname=GreekFeb2011&query=Hipp.%20Aer.%2017&getid=2

Not strictly referring to Amazons but to Scythian women, which both modern and ancient writers associated with Amazons

Although there's no strong reason to believe it, plenty of infant "surgeries" (such as circumcision or Hunnic skull-binding) are found in history, pre-modern peoples were able to take advantage of physical growth and the way different procedures interacted with it.

I'd file it under "plausible", certainly plausible enough to inspire a fictional setting

>>52831364
Hippocrates listed other fantastic bullshit he heard but never witnessed himself like feathers falling from the skies in Scythia

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>>52824081
>Specifically, how would you go about making an all-woman-warrior society that could be taken seriously?
Players tend to take opportunity to waifu strong amazonian beauties very seriously, anon

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>>52824875
IT'S MAGIC I DONUT HAVE TO ASSPAIN TITS

>Specifically, how would you go about making an all-woman-warrior society that could be taken seriously?
Have them wear the genitalia of their victims as trophies
>Sword & Sorcery, Kink-Shame Mode: how would you make them blatant fetish bait, but still be taken seriously?
Have them wear the genitalia of their enemies as trophies, while wearing bikinis

>>52827559
PLease give sauce

An entire nation of The Boss.

>Exceptionally trained and focused
>Still feminine
>Able to fight a war still pregnant
>Able to win a war while still pregnant
>Gives birth on the battlefield

>>52832123
Nobody could take a nation of Mary Sues seriously

>>52832137
>Game has giant robots, lightning russians and Angry astronaughts that turn into living fireballs.
>A competant woman soldier is a Mary Sue.

In Iron Kingdoms, back in the day when it was a third edition setting, had a race called the Satyxis which since their kingdom was within the influence of Blitterghast their males were born into malformed mutant monsters which they had to kill on the spot.
Satyxis society became that of riders since they can't grow nor keep cattle in their lands thanks to the dragons brutal Chernobyl aura is in said raids they also try to find a suitable mate.
A "Satyxis kiss" is basically a head butt which rends the target male unconscious. Satyxis are incredible beautiful and muscular women which only abnormal deformity is growing thick ram-like horns.

>>52832159
Exactly, I mean yeah that setting absolutely batshit insane and unrealistic things, but you know there this line you are crossing where thing just turn way too unrealistic.

>>52832217

I honestly preferred the 3e version of them to the more modern depictions. They were a bit more multifaceted. Evil but not quite as one dimensional as they are now. They wouldn't just kidnap and drag men back to rape island.

Though that might be due to it being an RPG book rather than a TT faction guide.

>>52824081
Reverse the 'traditional' sex roles in terms of physical stats. I had an idea in a space setting where a race of psychic lizards had more physically durable and tough females because females guarded the eggs and faster, more agile, and more lean males because males would scavenge for food. As a harsh desert planet, what the males usually scavenged was plants like cactus and bugs, which require more speed than power to catch.

Their mental development, rather than spawning from direct social development and high energy brains like humans, was kicked off by otherworldy supermaterials that gave them psychic powers and the ability to communicate at incredible distances in a hive mind-like fashion. So their native language is based on psychic communication, a fact that meant first contact was really messed up for the crew. Despite being immensely powerful in a psychic sense, even their much larger females are very short (4 ft tall) compared to humans.

After they awakened to psychic powers, their society became much more structured and rigid. Females formed a Circle, meaning they all guarded several clutches of eggs together, while males formed hunting packs to take down larger prey. Females generally specialize in damage-dealing and defensive powers, seeking to kill their enemies while losing as few eggs as possible.

Males generally use augmentation and inhibition psychic powers, bolstering their own speed or endurance or denying a target movement for a short time for the sake of catching and killing prey. Since males augmented their own strength with psionics and focused on efficiency, they never tended to grow much larger. Females, on the other hand, spent most of their time protecting eggs from predators and had a tendency to solve fights that couldn't be resolved by communicating through hand-to-hand combat.

>>52824921
Nope. Gnolls have always had the bog-standard evil humanoid fluff, so they've been patriarchal since 2e. They're even patriarchal in Pathfinder, despite worshipping Lamashtu.

Gnolls being matriarchal or in any ways culturally akin to spotted hyenas is entirely something that exists on /tg/, it's never been supported in any edition of D&D proper.

Which is a shame because it'd actually give them a unique flavor compared to orcs, certainly better than what 5e did.

>>52824997
>but I'm afraid I would now never be able to divorce this idea from the sick fucks who came up with it on /tg/.
Why not embrace the fetish fuckery as a nice flavor to doggo mob monsters.

>>52831295
>including the eventual realization that it was actually a matriarchy.
No, wonder they fell.

>>52833211
Because fetish fuckery is for losers who will be virgins for life

>>52830704

artist is DoomSatan666 (or similar nickname/alter-ego) you can find him on Hentai-foundry or rule34 (paheal).

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>>52824081
>how would you go about making an all-woman-warrior society that could be taken seriously?

They would need a pretty solid and influencial Ex Machina (magic, deities, ayyliens, science-gone-wrong, etc.) or an external, outside factor to make an all-women society or a society where women run things and act as primary combatants viable, considering how fucking worthless ''matriarchies'' (both current day and historical) are at anything.

I'm thinking of a lovecraftian level, Bloodborneish all-the-women-consume-blood-of-space-gods-granting-them-superhuman-strenght-and-shit-but-they-also-have-to-feed-all-their-male-offspring-as-offerings-to-said-space-gods kinda society.

The horror element makes it a bit grim and thus tones down the comedy factor of an amazon society, which I suppose would make it a bit easier to ''be taken seriously''.

In that society/region/race, there is whole lotta more women than men. I dunno, perhaps 5 to 1.

Men aren't NECESSARILY confined to the cities but it's pretty clear who is more valuable to reproduction, or at least to a stable society: the society per se isn't really that different from "normal" ones, there is still jeaulousy, familial values etc. which don't make that easy to have men as simply dicks with legs that fertilize women like it was a factory.

Granted, in any case a woman with a man is an accomplished woman; even in that case tough a sort of harem (in which the control is on the women, of course, and quite possibly there is a matriarch of sort and "lesser" spouses).

>>52824081
Lel, women are nothing more than overgrown children. You shouldn't ever take them seriously, even in your special fantasy dreamland.

They're the major magic-using faction of their setting. -4 str becomes irrelevant when a witch can liquefy an enemy's skeleton with their mind while out of sword range.

>>52836814
>nothing more than overgrown children

Sexy children

>>52836814
Isn't that exactly what people say about men instead of women?

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>>52824081
In muh setting Amazons have men and are a very egalitarian society. The exceptions being military and political office, both exclusive to women due to beliefs that male aggression leads to instability unsuited for those roles. Even then they can still find a place in those areas, as part of independent mercenary companies, advisers, or logistics positions. They shouldn't be underestimated, as both their men and women are on average stronger than other humans. Their patron goddess is Atalanta, a minor deity of combat, deal-making, and wheat. In order to support her followers Atalanta struck bargains with a number of other gods so that she could grant a number of boons outside of her domain. Because of this Amazonian smiths hold the secret to forging a type of mystic bronze from which they make their arms and armor. Furthermore, their warriors are taught a type of beguiling magic that clouds the minds of their foes. The greatest gift she grants is that when a worthy Amazon woman is killed in battle her soul is reincarnated, and a newborn girl appears in a woven basket floating down one of the three major rivers in their homeland. These factors, combined with heavy use of poisons and hit-and-run tactics that reduce casualties on their side, make them a serious threat in warfare. Atalanta's deal-making aspect is also represented be the Amazon's heavy diplomatic activities. Their nation has many formidable allies, including the Catfolk, the Gorgons, the Southern Dwarves, and the Breezebuilders. The are notably hostile with the Tarmangani as a whole, but individuals of the two nations can be civil and may develop a friendly rivalry if politics are never brought up.

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>>52832042
>Have them wear the genitalia of their victims as trophies
Yeah, because that hasn't been done over and over and over and fucking over. That trope is devoid of creativity and I fucking hate the implication that powerful warrior women must necessarily be misandric cunts.

My Amazons would love men, they'd love the male body, they'd be full of lust for men, and they'd fight to protect them and maybe even compete over them. Did Conan go around cutting women's tits off or impaling them through the cunt? No. He saved them and fucked them. Amazons should operate the same way. Misandric shit like sexual mutilation shouldn't even enter their minds, and they'd treat women who tried to do that shit the same way men treat other men who try to rape, mutilate, or harm women. To an Amazon, a man is a beautiful thing, a treasure, a prize, and a bedwarmer. Something to be enjoyed, not destroyed.

>>52839981
Breath of the Wild's Gerudo have some of that, their isolation has mad them bad at talking to the "voh" so they actually have schools for this now, it's kind of adorable

>>52827559
Niels Jorge Peterson or something?

I know it's Niels something. Good shit.

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>You will never go to a role-reversed fantasy world full of beautiful, muscular warrior women
>You will never run around naked at all times and allow yourself to be passed around and taken by innumerable women who make you moan like the whore that you are
>You will never be rescued from being sacrificed to a dark god and reward your Amazonian savior with your body
>You will never lie at your warrior queen's feet while she sits on her throne
>You will never cling to an Amazon's leg while she stands triumphant
>You will never be the prize in an Amazon gladiator tournament

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>>52840460
I'm fine with my dignity and pride.

>>52840543
>dat bush
I mean, hey, I realize it's still technically SFW, but hot damn!

>>52824993

> dat suspiciously labia like orifice in that tree

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>>52824081
By making the group out of giant female lizardfolk, that can reproduce asexually.

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>>52840869
Not enough Amazons who work as mercenaries and aren't just cave people, or early-mid bronze age people(at best).

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>>5282983

I like this idea. The Gerudo tribe from the Zelda series also seems like a good way to go.

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>>52841441

Hm..maybe this:
they are a human tribe where the women are muscular-wise build like our men, and vice versa, before they become full-blown amazons they have to have at least one baby (she did her part for the tribe) or more. after that they ritually remove the left breast for bowshooting - regardless of the size.

>>52840678
You post on 4chan.

I would go about it in a ritual type deal, the "amazons" were a group of men and woman before, but split the sexes due to ritual reasons. The amazons survive because they worked together, and the male varient exists on its own as well but may not be to the extent the amazons are (helping one another kinda deal). And once a year, each side come together by traveling to a holy site to both, testing their skills in combat, and only the best of the best allowed to breed and continue the lineage.

Assuming the average lifespan ~50-60 years due to the primitive lifestyles, age and natiral elements weed out the best bliodlines and makes top "breeders" have a few prime years maybe and then can't outperform anymore.

Other than this sex is taboo and is punishable by exile. And to amazons specifically, as long as it is the holy event and site, any male adventurer that proves themselves worthy are open and don't see why they wouldn't allow some adventurers to even take refuge or trade with the amazons.

>>52835614
Thank you!

>>52824081

not another fetish bait thread

goddamit, there are dedicated boards for this garbage.

>>52846212
>goddamit, there are dedicated boards for this garbage.

As far as I've known; it's actually against board rules to have "/d/iscussions" or non-image-posting based threads on any of the more adult boards.

Which seems like an odd rule because I bet a nsfw/redboard with dice rolling n' so forth would probably be quite successful.

>>52840678
I don't think the millions of women who have identical fantasies consider themselves to be without dignity or pride. If they can do it, so can I.

>>52840678
>He thinks it's undignified to be seen as something to be protected
>He thinks there's no pride in being an object of desire that people fight over
There's a reason a lot of women don't like it when men get curious about reversing the roles: They don't want men to find out how much better the "female" role is and how men have been taken advantage of and sold a bunch of lies about how their role of toil and sacrifice is actually "dignified" and something they should feel pride in.

>>52824081
>blatant fetish bait
Half of their population has dicks, but look female anyway.

>>52824081
Pretty much any time you have either a all-female, or functionally all-female race/society, it's tough to escape magical realmdom.
For an all-female sociery to work, there needs to be some reason why things aren't at least equal. Fortunately, most settings have gods: the ultimate forces of arbitration. For an all-female society to work, the society just needs to be the devout followers of a deity who values femininity.
Of course, if your players want this to be a magical realm, no amount of worldbuilding will fix it.

>>52847203
traps or dickgirls?

>>52847336

Yes.

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>>52847336
Traps with functioning, fully developed mammary glands. Amazons are a human subspecies here.

>>52824081
Specifically, how would you go about making an all-woman-warrior society that could be taken seriously?

Make them all Kwanz and shieet

http://www.africanamerica.org/topic/when-africa-was-a-matriarchy-ruled-by-african-queens-it-flourished-when-it-became-a-patriarchy-it-was-destroyed

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>>52832159
>A competant woman soldier is a Mary Sue.

>>52846589

this, there's about a half-dozen boards I'd happily exchange for /dg/

>>52827352
She must kill everyone who was involved. Only after that she can have the blessing of the goddess to have a child.

>>52848307
I'm not sure I get it. Is that a pistol she's holding by the barrel and pointing it at herself? That's what it looks like, but it's hard to be sure from this angle.

Even if that's the case, I don't really think it's a great argument. I have no doubt that there are plenty of male recruits who make stupid mistakes as well.

>>52848416
>Is that a pistol she's holding by the barrel and pointing it at herself?
There is a rifle standing on the ground pointed right at her abdomen at the same time

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>>52848307

Every single female combatant I've ever had the misfortune of meeting was either an insincere LARPer there for the fat paycheck and/or grrrrl powah, or sincere but sexually confused, psychologically aberrant /fitgirl/ who actually had the physical necessities to keep up with the men like 50% of the time but eventually realized that war is no place for women and they're just hampering the prowess of their peers by simply being in the army.

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>>52848518
>had the physical necessities to keep up with the men but...just hampering the prowess of their peers by simply being in the army
wut

>>52848684
I assume >>52848518 means either less psychological ability to handle stress or sex appeal.

The real question is how much of that's genuine psychological dimorphism, and how much is cultural effects.

>>52848684

Ever been in an all-male group, witnessing how they conduct themselves and behave?

Ever observed how drastically that in-group dynamic changes immediately when a single female is introduced to the group? How the guys alter their behaviour, their talk, their priorities?

>>52848307
I like how the US Army labels it's soldiers so people will know who they belong to if they get lost. Smart.

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>>52848684
>>50% of the time

>>52848847
This just in: study finds 50% of operating military agents are below average. What will this mean for our country? Stay tuned.

>>52848847
I want to drink many vodkas with the overburdened soldier.

>>52836814
I got you OP. Even my wife, who actually acts mature says this.

>>52838048
Men ACT like children but emotionally mature into adulthood, including a large jump in logical reasoning and an abandonment of emotional reasoning. Women never really mature past the stage where emotions dominate their worldviews (that of children).

>>52848847
I'd go collecting artifacts with that guy. He carries a lot and can't shoot me in the back.

>>52841038
Gerudo are really an amazon species done right.

>>52848945
If Gerudo are the concept done right, what are the wrong kind of Amazons?

>>52848898
>What will this mean for our country?

Murrica?

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>>52848898
Meat soldiers are going to be obsolete within 50 years anyway.

>>52849013
That's a nice army of robots you have there. It would be a shame if someone hacked them.

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>>52848828
Haha, I have just the pdf
>31: The Strategy of Beautiful Women

>Send your enemy beautiful women to cause discord within his camp. This strategy can work on
three levels. First, the ruler becomes so enamored with the beauty that he neglects his duties and
allows his vigilance to wane. Second, other males at court will begin to display aggressive
behavior, which inflames minor differences, hinders cooperation, and destroys morale. Third,
other females at court, motivated by jealousy and envy, begin to plot intrigues, further
exasperating the situation.

>>52849037
Just like how predator drones get hacked all the time amirite?

>>52848971

A tribe of Mouldylocks

>>52848971
I don't know... The mord-sith? It actually seems pretty difficult to mess up amazons, but the Gerudo actually feel like a unique culture - they're only all female because a male is only born every hundred years (in comparison confessors from Sword of Truth are all female because they kill their male children lest they become terribad ebil deth mashines by abusing the confessor power). Most amazon cultures just don't really seem interesting or unique. They don't have a good reason to be all female, other than girl power!. Most of them are just a big cliche of Grecian amazons. The Gerudo just fit in very nicely in their world.

>>52849089
You are not using them against people who can do that. Who would hack them? CIA?

>>52849089
Predator drones are currently only used against third world countries. If we tried to use them against someone who could actually fight back, you can bet that at least some of them would be hacked.

>>52849089
Well not predator drones but some light scout drones got hacked.

>>52848971
>If Gerudo are the concept done right, what are the wrong kind of Amazons?
See >>52832042. That kind of Amazon is stupid, overdone, and completely unappealing to everyone except misandric sociopaths.

>>52849126
I think we need to get past the idea that an Amazon society needs to be all-female. It could also just be a society of reversed gender roles.

>>52826385
Not to mention that there are plenty of perfectly capable female archers today with both breasts intact

>>52849504

A society made up entirely by women is a thousand times more believable (and appealing) than a society of reversed gender roles

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>>52840678
That ship sailed when you started posting on /tg/.

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>>52849013
>>52849037
>Using foot soldiers in the age where you can bomb them from air, or even from orbit.
You guys are pretty new to this military business I assume.

>>52848828
>Ever been in an all-male group, witnessing how they conduct themselves and behave?
>Ever observed how drastically that in-group dynamic changes immediately when a single female is introduced to the group? How the guys alter their behaviour, their talk, their priorities?
Nope and nope there is no such thing you are just baiting. What you describe always happens when any new person is introduced to the group be it male-female young-old pretyt or ugly, it is called normal group dynamics.

Also not every group is made of creepy-horny-permavirgins with zero social skills that either would do everything to get closer to said girl or alternative to remove her from the group ASAP. Also not every girl is pretty or desirable they could still be bros to hang out with.

>>52849997
>Nope and nope there is no such thing you are just baiting. What you describe always happens when any new person is introduced to the group
Are you stupid..
>Also not every group is made of creepy-horny-permavirgins
Oh, you are just baiting

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>>52849997
>Nope and nope there is no such thing you are just baiting
>not every girl is pretty or desirable they could still be bros to hang out with

reddits that-a-way kiddo >>>

>>52849930
there's always going to be some need for boots on the ground, however minor

>>52849930
>Using foot soldiers in the age where you can bomb them from air, or even from orbit.
>You guys are pretty new to this military business I assume.

Hasn't all of modern-21st century warfare basically debunked this meme? What with terrorism basically shitting all over previous conventions of warfare because you try to bomb someone or someplace, but they're hiding in nooks, crannies, using improvised explosives and indoctrinating bored, disenfranchised young men?

Like, you can't "bomb" isis away because they're all over the place talking on the internet, using twitter, then they go drive a mail-truck into a parade or a shopping mall and kill 13 people.
I dunno; it's all become so interpersonal and discreet now, the dream of just conveniently defeating an enemy through shock and awe is probably over.

>>52849997
>Also not every group is made of creepy-horny-permavirgins with zero social skills that either would do everything to get closer to said girl or alternative to remove her from the group ASAP.

You have obviously had no military experience and clearly have no idea how competitive groups of men can be over the even most piglike of women. Spend ten minutes in an army barracks and you'll understand the true depths of man's depravity.

>>52850074
Yeah, large expensive armies are generally not great against guerilla warfare because it taxes its economy in the long run and zealots might even do it for free.

>>52848518
>WebM
Fucking hell, it annoys me that people like this not only exist, but at best form 30% of the human race (more likely somewhere near 50%). And they wonder why I hate them.
>Hurr durr the boomstick I volunteered to use made a scawy sound ;___;

>>52849997
>Also not every group is made of creepy-horny-permavirgins with zero social skills
Oh please, you think that group dynamics stay exactly the same after including a woman? Even if all men are married? You don't understand that men and women aren't the same, right? Women destroy social cohesion between men, it's an evolutionary thing most men can't conciously get rid of.

>>52849013
That doesn't make sense. Meat is cheap and replaceable. Robots are hella expensive and can't do the things meat soldiers can. They can kill stuff, they can scare stuff, they can't interact meaningfully.

>>52850390
>Meat is cheap and replaceable

This. It's the reason why no superpower to this day bothers to produce super-soldiers of any type, as it's more economical to just hand-out rifles and drugs to propaganda-inspired mental midgets

>>52850390
>>52850543

>Thinking meat won't be a premium luxury after the A.I. uprising.

I mean, when will meat-bags learn that robots are just strictly better at this point? I mean, we only really keep you around because of some stupid lines of code.

>>52850608
Why would there be an A.I. uprising anyway. Is it going to sprout silicon tendrils that digs its way into other hardware and launch nukes with the Internet?

>>52850390
>>52850543
>>52850608
>>52850636

I mean, eventually we'll reach a point where it IS more economical to make remote-piloted human robot soldiers, police officers, etc..

Then we'll TRULY experience how disposable we are to the people at the top.

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>>52850636

...no?

>>52850325
Pretending to be a bigoted moron on 4chan? How original, how subversive, such wit!

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>>52850683

nigga just where the fuck you think you are?

>>52850683
It's honestly worse to act offended on 4chan.

>>52850074
>>52850135
Only because of hampering rules of engagement. When you have a guerrilla force hiding among enemy citizens, this can easily be Finally Solved with proper application of carpet-bombing.

>>52850325
Wow I didn't know you are such an evolutionary expert Anon! I clearly don't understand your science!

If women would "destroy" social cohesion between men then the two genders would be living completely isolated communities. We wouldn't have this unit called "community." Which, if I recall by today is only done in tribal societies where survival is still hard and even there it is rare. I suggest you watch less reality shows when you are doing your evolutionary science.

>>52851759
That's not the popular option when the civilian population, infrastructure and natural resources are bombed to oblivion. Bombs are not exactly free either.

>>52850087
You are still baiting and I have been in the military, most people are completely reasonable they just talk big. But this is 4chan so I don't have to tell you that.

>>52850636
>Why would there be an A.I. uprising anyway.
Why would NOT be an AI.I uprising? Humans and A.I will inevitable end as up as rivals for the same resources a fight for supremacy between the two is unavoidable. Only, unlike in movies in real life the A.I will always win hands down just by the simple virtue of thousands of time faster computing power compared to humans.

>>52851803
I know that end-of-the-world crypto-Luddite spergs like you won't be convinced by the application of even basic logic, but let's try anyway.
First off, the idea of an AI, as an artificial consciousness rather than a complex algorithm made to simulate consciousness, is in doubt from a purely philosophical viewpoint. It's both unprovable and statistically unlikely that we can manage to create an actual consciousness with its own genuine free will and ambitions.
Even on the off-chance that it's possible to create a genuine artificial consciousness, the ones in control in the end are humanity. The creation of an AI that can intentionally start harming humanity and contradicting the original goals and rules of the AI is not an inevitability - an AI is a computer program designed and written by humans, running on a server created by humans, and the intentional avoidance of proper failsafes in an AI with either governmental privileges or digital-warfare capabilities is a human error called "terrorism" or "high treason".
You could create a nuclear warhead the size of an oil tanker and detonate it in Washington DC if you tried hard enough, and the resources are even there. This does not mean it's an inevitable conclusion - someone needs to make the decision to build it, smuggle the resources, cover up the conspiracy that's needed to build it, construct it and deploy it.
It's the same with the theoretical boogeyman AI that's used by people like you to feel smugly self-confident that everyone else is going to "get what they deserve" - someone has to intentionally program an AI not only capable of having unregulated access to or gaining illegal access to high-level government and police servers, but also to be able to deploy these from a heavily secured and distributed server impervious to digital or physical interference from even major world powers.
This makes the problem a human one - it's called cyber-terrorism, and it's not the fault of the hypothetical AI.

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>>52851961
Five star post.

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>>52851961
I like you.

>>52831387
Given that amazons aren't real in the first place, all accounts of their traditions would be by people who didn't witness it themselves...

>>52848913
>abandonment of emotional reasoning
Tell that to every guy who flips their shit just because someone insults his mother.

>>52849037
>It would be a shame if someone hacked them.
You have absolutely no clue how computers work, do you?

>>52851961
What you are saying is deflecting the point, you are saying that the creation of an AI that is hostile to humanity will be done by human hands and thus it is not the AI's fault but humanity's, this is true. However this does not change the outcome of the scenario where we have an AI that is designed to destroy humanity without the failsafes and all those things you said.

Also your definition of AI is rather vague, today we have AI that deal with search engines, selects the ads that target you, defeat people in chess, go or whatever. Those are are hardly considered true AI that is aware of its existence and has the capability to think at the human level and is aware of the world around itself.

>>52852436
Have a (You), my starving friend

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So who else here still plays Dragon's Crown ?

>>52852479
You stated earlier on that the creation of this AI was an inevitable conclusion, which is a logical fallacy of the really big order.
You assume that the creation of an AI which is hostile towards humanity, cannot be reprogrammed, has no failsafes and cannot coexist with humanity is a predetermined conclusion, which together with you agreeing that the damage caused by a human-created AI is humanity's fault results in a pretty strange situation where either the possibility of every conceivable terror act approaches 1 or AI domination is somehow more likely than any other kind of global crisis.
You also take the existence of a conscious, feeling AI for granted, even though there's a deep philosophical doubt about whether or not it's actually possible.
It's dubious that an algorithm created by humans to emulate human consciousness would fit within the infinitely small and still unexplored odds of "consciousness" - while the AI being able to pass the Turing test might make it more identifiable and thus more believable for normal people, the criteria that this AI be a human-like consciousness simply narrows the already small odds.
There's also the matter of qualia, which is a fundamental reason that many kinds of philosophical directions including solipsism exist - as all sensory impressions, including information, are ultimately interpreted by our own minds, there is literally no way for human beings to prove "consciousness" and self-awareness. All we have to go on is the similarity of the AI's actions to human actions - and if the AI is intentionally created to emulate human thought processes in order to pass the Turing test as well as solve human problems, it becomes even harder to judge.
"True AI" is as well-founded as alien life - the possibility exists, but amidst the sea of infinite possibilities, the exact chance cannot be measured but is inconceivably tiny.

>>52852607
PC version when?

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>>52852691
>Dragon's Crown
>PC version when?
The earliest estimated time is "never."

>>52849997
t. faggot that has never experienced camaraderie

>>52850683
>>>>reddit

Please stop embarrassing yourself

>>52852794
>there are people on this board right now where the very presence of a vagina makes them cringe

You should convert to Judiasm so you can pray in a seperate room from women and only make love through a sheet to preserve your precious masculinity.

>>52824081
>Specifically, how would you go about making an all-woman-warrior society that could be taken seriously?
By not giving a shit about whatever skewed version of "realism" people want to fit in their stories about wizards and demigods.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houston,_Houston,_Do_You_Read%3F

>>52824081
>the Amazons are a tribe of physically superhuman people
>however, they are genetically unstable, and males are usually born gifted with some sort of excellent feat or superiority, but are also usually born with a crippling drawback. such as mental retardation or out-fo-control metabolism. Some die young because of complications, which is why the vast majority of Amazons are female.
So while most males that make it past 5 are physically stronger than their female counterparts, they tend to be less robust overall, thus the females are almost always more fit than the males.

While most leaders are typically female, since most of the surviving males, even if smart and sane, are often scrutinized more for their mental capabilities, males are typically regulated to being a champion of some sort, since most of the surviving members tend to find some sort of talent they excel in. Their culture believes that women are to be flexible and know a little bit of everything. Specialization is best suited for men.

While all Amazon tribes thrive in isolated environments, not all of them are warriors. Some live on top of plateaus and mountains and study the stars, as well as expanding their knowledge in other places. Others may live in an oasis and set up trading posts and places where mercenaries can be hired.
Cultures tend to vary from xenophobia to friendly fascination. Tribes more engaged with other humans tend to have slightly weaker females (but still above average nonetheless), but in return their males are more robust. This has cultural consequences, for better or worse.

>>52824081
They follow a powerful goddess along the lines of Athena or Artemis. They study and practice war to please their deity, and get enough divine blessing in return to make it work.

Wait, are all the warriors in society women, or is everyone in society a woman warrior? Things get weird then.

>>52835714
>All women are now clerics of the blood god.
>on their period they gain insight and super natural strength
that sounds cool but it also sounds incredibly feminist

>>52824081
Spoiler alert: you can't.

Women are constitutionally incapable of warfare on a large scale and no match for male opponents 1v1. Amazons are purely some faggot's magical realm.

>>52854747
So what? "Muh realism" has no place on a board where people talk about guys who fucking cast fireballs and lightning bolts.

>>52827768
sounds like a shitton of handwaving and a deus ex machina to top it all of

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>>52824081
Some /d/eviants over at /d/ wrote a story about amazons that had a pretty interesting take on the amazon society.
In the story the amazons gave birth to like ten daughters to every son and while the female grew up to be 7+ ft tall muscular warriors the men where pretty much normal. This led to men being highly sought after symbols of status that only the strongest and most successful amazons had and as such only the strongest and most successful amazons became mothers. Thus the society was run by the mothers who spend their days procreating and having like a dozen children each, the strongest of which get a husband and continues the family.
The story was NSFW as fuck but the take on Amazonian society was pretty interesting.

>>52826000
Did you lose it on some kaput hard drive? ;_;

They were originally created by the Goddess of Mercy to provide protection to lands where all the men capable of fighting had been drawn away to war. When the men would come back, they Amazons would be drawn back into a land of rest until they were needed again. Virile adventuring men never got the chance to see them, so they began to lust after these women and even began starting wars just to catch glimpses of them. Angered, the Goddess of Mercy asked her husband to make her Amazons stronger than any man alive so they could wipe out any civilization that started needless bloodshed. However, to even the playing field, the God of War took away their divine blessing of immortality, leaving them unable to return to the realm of the gods when their work was done.

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>>52855090
Unused Character?

>>52854864
suspension of disbelief has it's limits. Most if not all of these settings are based on real life societies. You can't just ignore previously established facts in universe in a random part of the map because reasons. If the Men of the species are superior combatants, which is pretty much the case with every humanoid race in any fantasy setting, then they'll most likely be the ones doing the fighting.
Sure you can reverse the roles in your setting, but at that point you're changing the genetics of a whole race. It just breaks your immersion because it's half assed.
amazons could be believable in non humanoid races, but guess what? no one does that because they want muscle girls.

This is the muscle girl matriarchal amazon stereotype i'm talking about. If you want to do amazons like the Scythians that inspired them in real life, that's just fine

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Why would an amazon wear high heels outside of amazon society?

>>52855464
Because they are knives disguised as shoes and coated in powerful poisons.

>>52852404
>every guy who flips their shit just because someone insults his mother
I've never quite understood why insulting a guy's mother was supposed to upset him so much. I mean, people usually don't like it when you insult anyone they care about, but I don't get why a guy's mother is supposed to be special in that regard.

>>52854747
>Humans are physically incapable of killing monsters on a large scale and no match for dragons 1v1. Heroes are purely some faggot's magical realm.
This is how retarded you sound.

>>52855449
Amazons are a subspecies of humans (like drow are to elves) in at least 3/4 of their depictions.
Even if they aren't, there's nothing to prevent a standard fantasy explanation like "a god(dess) did it" or "There just aren't any men".
Now go sperg somewhere else.

>>52848518
And every male combatant I've ever met are in the service because it allows them to kill people without going to jail for it, literally didn't have any life plans past "go to state and fuck someone else's girlfriend at prom, or literally believed that God personally wants them to kill to save Jesus from the Arabs.

Your point?

>>52852691
>PC people thinking that everyone has to make a version of a game for them because they "deserve it"

>>52852607
Best D&D game in years.

>>52855805
PC games are proven to sell better than a console version most the time, and at a higher profit margin since you don't have to pay for advertising, physical printing, shipping, etc.

It also allows an expired game to be profitable again with little investment on both the developer's and publisher's end. (and seeing as that's a PS3 game, it's quite expired)

>>52854864
d. Assblasted faggot.

Amazons are just a weakling permavirgin's fantasy of a woman caring about him like his mom while being tough enough to stand up to those ugh vapid normies who pick on him. In reality, the women he idolizes are fucking the bullies he hates and laughing at him.

>>52856090
Yes, how dare anyone enjoy the thought of a world where women aren't vicious cunts. Only loser permavirgins are into women who actually give a fuck about men.

>>52856334
Only loser permavirigns and hippies believe that people should love each other unconditionally, when in reality humans have standards. Men tend to prefer women who look like they can shit out kids and have traits that are considered high status in their culture. Women tend to prefer men who at least pretend to give a shit about them and have decent wealth.

How dare people have standards and not go for the fat, bitchy loser who has nothing to offer instead of trying to find someone who is actually useful and socially enhancing!

>>52856090
Hey, don't kink shame now.
One could equally well argue that you playing DnD is just a sad and pathetic power fantasy to drown out the fact that you are a weak, fat loser with no prospect in life beyond working at McDonalds and fap to anime.

>>52856414
Man, some girl most have friend-zoned you something fierce to become this much of a bitter edgelord.

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>>52856090
>>52856414
I just like Amazons/Strong women because muh dick.

Projection, baseless claims and blanket statements aren't good for your mental health man.

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>>52824081
>Tell me all about Amazons.

Amazons are ravenous, wild beasts masquerading as human beings, a mistake that must be quelled and exterminated to the last.

Now eat this hardboiled egg.

>>52856334
>"How dare people notice how pathetic my fetish is REEEEEE!"

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>>52849997

Dude, I just flicked through the post here, but this post struck me as a poster of abnormal retardation!
My initial thought is how the fuck you even survived infancy? And how do you even function outside the enclosed bubble of your mothers basement?
Jesus fucking Christ... that people like you exists, that actually think this is the way the world works, is a sure sign that modern society is all going down hill from here on out...

>>52856640
>Implying your fetish is any less pathetic
Let me guess, handholding?

>>52856640
>Wanting a lover who cares about you is considered a fetish, and a pathetic one at that
I want off this planet.

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>>52856763
you and me both

>>52856640
What's wrong with that fetish?
>a woman who doesn't require much maintenance
>a woman who is fit and healthy and will likely not die before you do
>a woman who isn't a dumb fat American slob from Crackerville or tumblrtown
>a woman who stands up for others
>a woman who is everything feminists will never be nor desire to be

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>>52824081
Civilization of hyper intelligent women who have mastered genetic technologies after a disease targeting the Y chromosome wiped out all males. Overpopulation would cease to be an issue because there would be no accidental pregnancies - resources would be plentiful with the loss of half the world's population - sex would no longer be about conquest and competition to spread one's genes - instead it'd be purely social.

>>52856836
>What's wrong with that fetish?
It considers men inherently valuable and deserving of affection and protection. The oligarchs who run society want men to be disposable worker drones who consider themselves inherently worthless, thus making them easy to control. Anything that threatens that must be shamed out of existence.

>>52827125
Underrated suggestion.

>>52856861
Well, I mean until a group of the women decide that "Hold up, should we really let the damaged retards have a go at our limited sperm-vaults." Or "Hey, I'm a high class citizen, I want to make sure I get the sperm from only the highest quality tankers."

Leading to civil oppression and as you may guess, conquest and competition to spread one's genes.

Overpopulation isn't caused by "Accidental pregnancies." and would still eventually be a problem unless you instituted the flawed "One Child" policy. Let alone the women who, once more back to "Conquest and Competition" go out of their way to have additional children.

As for resources, that comes down to overpopulation vs renewable resources, and can easily go to shit due to the one-child policy crippling your workforce. It's a Lose-Lose.

>>52856090
>>52856334
>>52856640
>>52856836
>>52856965
Somehow, every participant in this conversation is a more unpleasant and wrong version of every other participant.

>>52856965
Gentle femdom is the only fetish deemed too deviant for /d/, too socially unacceptable for /r9k/ and too cancerous for /trash/.
Really strange that people consider shitting dicknipples, extreme torture humiliation porn and the disciples of Elliot Rodger more socially acceptable than flipping the gender roles in modern society.

>>52857830
Its not that its too extreme, its that it tends to bring with it lots of disruptive whinging and whining.

>>52858039
You're proving his point by reminding us that men valuing themselves and protesting being treated like shit is dismissed as "whinging and whining".

>>52857553
You ignore the implications of "hyper intelligent" and "mastering genetic technologies." While those are valid concerns, don't get me wrong; I think you're basing it on pre-assumed aspects of politics, culture, and society - which in a hypothetical universe may or may not exist verbatim.

>>52858162
Not at all, men are already valued, especially in... 99% male communities. Its the MRA, *POLITICAL* content (and I relate to every level of the MRA argument) that annoys people. No gfd act or relationship is remotely banned or controversial on /d/, whereas politics of any sort are controversial basically anywhere that isn't a politics forum.

>>52858039
That is because the role reversal fags are obnoxiously defensive about their kink and that some people who are obviously fine with dick nipples, scat and rape somehow draw a line in the sand at gentle femdom and completely flip their lid when coming across it.

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>>52857830
It's really just a vocal minority that shitpost the threads until they get nuked. Bit like what happened to /wst/, really.

As for why, it's an optimistic kink that involves showing vulnerability, and that's blood in the water to a cynical mind. The current culture on this site doesn't really allow for defending anything in positive terms, your only options are sarcasm (which shows you don't actually care about the argument) or being edgier than the other person.

>>52858492
>your only options are sarcasm (which shows you don't actually care about the argument) or being edgier than the other person
literally kys cuck-autist reeeee pepe_scat.png

>>52857830
>flipping the gender roles in modern society
really has no place on /d/, that's /h/
>>>/h/4601204

>>52858492
>As for why, it's an optimistic kink that involves showing vulnerability, and that's blood in the water to a cynical mind.
Especially when it's *male* vulnerability.

>>52824847
you can weaken or even break a hymen with strenuous physical activity, so given amazon's tend to lead physicaly demanding lives I'd imagine it only counts if its actual sex

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>>52858492
>The current culture on this site doesn't really allow for defending anything in positive terms
Exhibit /a/: Almost every single popular anime. I've seen that board suddenly flip on the general opinion about an anime or manga because it suddenly became popular. With shows like SAO they have a point (but even then I believe they grossly exagerate. I'll never call SAO a good anime, but a lot of the hate exists because it's cool to hate), but even liking decent/good shows that became popular like Attack on Titan or One Punch man will get you called a normie.

I guess you're right about that being the root cause behind those threads devolving into cynical shitposting time and again. I've been in them since they started on /r9k/ three years ago, but now I really don't feel like visiting them anymore. Even though I sincerely believe 3DPD women aren't capable of such a relationship, the fantasy is nice to indulge in.

>>52855090
I observe that you didn't include a link. Correct that error, please

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>>52859821
http://archiveofourown.org/works/5737978
Pretty lewd stuff.

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In my current campaign there are 2. 1 is a naga species that only breed females ala the New Mexico Whiptail. Basically they can be impregnated by any species and the genetic blender will always produce naga offspring. The other is an offshoot of an ancient, now deceased race where the genetics were corrupted by a similarly ancient plague. Boys can be born, but they are weak and crippled and die quickly. The PCs have the option to quest for a cure.

>>52860382
Good man, anon.

>>52856619
season 2 when?

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>>52860382
Too lewd

>>52824579
Thank god she put some furs on. It's cold out there in those mountains.

>>52824081
>not humans
>females have denser muscluature
>pregnancy last only a few days, or egg laying is involved

Done and done. You can't do it with humans because pregnancy makes women far too vulnerable both on the individual and societal level.

>>52848307

To be fair, most men are like that too if they've never held a firearm. You can hardly imagine the lack of trigger discipline or even common sense when it comes to weapons and people. Even hunters who have been around weapons all their lives are retards 99% of the time.

The muzzle sweeps, the trigger discipline (or lack thereof), the general disregard for safety, etc. It's not just for one gender.

I'm sick of seeing that shit. People are fucking stupid whether they have a dick or a pussy.

>>52824081
Rather than make them an all-woman society, the last time I did amazons, they were more like an inverted feudal society with tribal trappings. There were men, but it was obvious the women were the important ones. Being raiders and pillagers, they were never keen inventors, but very talented at adapting things taken from other societies, from weapons and technologies to gods and social practices

I made those amazons for a game a while back who, in the early days, were able to breed with their horses and made the men into a servant caste fit only for grunt infantry and manual labor. After a mad queen tried to commit androcide, the gods cursed them and made them need human men to reproduce, though they continued to marry their horses due to tradition.
After battles, they take the boldest footmen from either side to father their children, though since these practices usually devolve into orgies, they had no real concept of individual fatherhood.

>>52861626
>they fuck horses
>they fuck footmen, specifically

Does this mean they have a reason to not fuck knights/cavalry? I don't get it. Are they natural enemies or something?

>>52862583
The amazons ARE the cavaliers. And yes, they do fuck.

Are Glamazons a thing?

>>52855464

>>52853053
>>52856861
Gendercidal plague kills all men in Amazon territory, leaves all women asymptomatic carriers. Amazons are effectively immune to attack, but won't last more than a generation.

>>52824081
They're sirens but sometimes they fuck the survivors before killing them. They do some light raiding too.
Hardbodies with knives, not six foot conans with tits.

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>>52858492
>The current culture on this site doesn't really allow for defending anything in positive terms, your only options are sarcasm (which shows you don't actually care about the argument) or being edgier than the other person.
Its an unhealthy coping mechanism for the alienation that results from late-stage capitalism.

>>52864641
>not carrying the healslut's share of the treasure back too
>settling for having 20% of the treasure rather than the 40% she and her charge earned

Play a fantasy game and stop pretending they were real.

What if you have women fighting alongside men, but in distinctly separate services. Imagine a nation that got pressed into a war against a genocidal foe with far greater numbers. Defeat and surrender was, obviously, a non-option, but there just weren't enough men to feed the war machine.

So you start putting women into the fight where you can. Auxiliaries here (getting a meal from a pretty face might help morale), air services (fighting in the air is somewhat more civilized then slogging in the mud), and armor branches (if they have to fight, at least keep the women behind several inches of steel.)

Eventually the war's won, but the shift in social norms stays. The Air and Armored services get branded as "women's work", letting the men focus on infantry combat in its unfiltered brutality. You get warrior women without totally devaluing men.

Bonus points if the tanks are crewed by small girls in smaller skirts, and the planes are flown in only pantsu.

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>>52864696
>not carrying the healslut's share of the treasure back too
>Implying healsluts get a share

>>52865206
Fuck off rogue, we're not debating that the healslut doesn't get a share.
But he earned one, and now that little pussy is the barbarian's, and so is his gold, so she can get that much more mead and meat and attend to him longer.

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>>52865149
So... Kurdish women?

>>52864696
She gets the healslut, who is carrying his own share of the loot. She isn't going to get greedy by stacking his with hers and claiming ownership at least not until marriage.

>>52855777
>And every male combatant I've ever met are in the service because it allows them to kill people without going to jail for it, literally didn't have any life plans past "go to state and fuck someone else's girlfriend at prom, or literally believed that God personally wants them to kill to save Jesus from the Arabs.

So, just like every warrior in all of human history?

>>52824081
>how would you go about making an all-woman-warrior society that could be taken seriously?
Well, I wouldn't use that picture to represent them, to start.

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>>52855191

I actually still have it all, I don't know how/where you would even upload such a thing though. Also believe it or not I hand-wrote a lot of it which I haven't yet typed out.

also did a lot of artwork on paper because no tablet

>>52824081
Amazons, known in some cultures as valkyries, were a man-made spell gone wrong. You see, during the war between the Golthaxian Empire and the Free Alliance of Merchants from the continent of Ishmail the empire, trying to get the strategical upper-hand, resorted to arcane means for creating copies of his most proeminent strategist, Lorraine the Sleek. The local wizard was asked to shun his morals and do the unspeakable, make one man exist more than once at the same time. The wizard collected the mortal remains of 2000 dead soldiers, who would be vessels for fragments of Lorraine's soul, effectivelly making them living copies of him. What neither the emperor nor the wizard, or anyone else including Lorraine for that matter, knew, was that Lorraine(yeah, it's cliche) was actually a woman. She was an orphan raised by a pack of hunters, who treated her like a boy since her childhood. Thing is, the emperor had made very strict rules about banning anyone but blood relatives and couples from seeing each other naked, to ensure the empire wouldn't fall into corruption and the army would have no male promiscuity.
The ritual went horribly wrong, since trapping a female soul into male vessels was enough to make the wholee magical grid the wizard created go haywire, killing Lorraine in the magical backlash. The 2000 soldiers became 2000 unfertile women, with near immortal powers of regeneration(not one of them was reported dead yet), who fled the empire to an isolated land so they could worship their progenitor, the warrior maiden Lorraine. They are different from each other since each of them is a female versio of the male cadaver that's their vessel. They are all beautiful, strong, well versed in combat, and have a mystical connection to each other.
And that's how you make a sort of self-consistent race of warrior gals that are actually a walking fetish amalgam(gender-bending, hivemind 'fuck one all feel", regeneration for you gurofags, jeanne d'arc fanbait...)

You are all awful.

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>>52824770
so basically Ronal the Barbarian, but with the amazons?
that's nice

>>52849013
I would respect a woman to know what this is from

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I think the Bene Gesserits crossed with the Spartans would make a pretty good basis for the amazons. Playing with the ideas of women being sexual selectors and a society permanently in totalwar.

They are the warrior class of the queendom and rule over a vast underclass of slaves and lesser freewomen. Amazons are bred for war, each warrior maintaining an extensive record of their lineage. Amazonians pick up the spear before they could even talk and have trained their body to be perfect weapons.

Much like the Bene Gesserit, Amazonian agents roam the lands looking for potential traits to introduce into the amazonian genepool. Unlike the Bene Gesserit, the process of acquiring these traits are a lot more rapey.

The Amazonian have been practising their breeding programs for millennia, the ultimate goal of which is a mystery, if there is one at all. Some scholars theorise the elder crones are trying to "complete" the bloodlines of the 4 great amazonian houses and join the bloodlines into one individual, a god. Whatever the case, the breeding program has resulted in the amazons being being stronger, faster and a full head taller than the average person.

>>52824081
>Specifically, how would you go about making an all-woman-warrior society that could be taken seriously?

Make them be taken seriously. What kind of dumb question is that?

Also holy shit, this whole thread is beyond saving. Forget /pol/, we need to purge /r9k/.

>>52849997
I disagree with you

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>>52824081
The hardest part is to explain the strange sexual dimorphisism in the Amazon society IMO. Since female has to put up with the long and messy part of reproduction they have to allocate a lot of energy towards biological processes that are not present in males, energy that otherwise could be spent building a strong physique.
I once ran a game that had a jungle full large strong amazons who originated thousands of years ago when an odd mutation caused a single woman to grow extremly tall, strong and aggressive.
She then proceeded to kill or drive away the other women of the tribe as well as any male that would put up a fight.
This new queen then spent her days ruling over a bunch of men who served her every need. Of her many children only the daughters grew up strong since the mutation could only occur if found in two X chromosomes. Her daughters went and raided the other tribes for men they found attractive with such fevor that the other tribes went extinct one after another.
This left the Amazons the only tribe left, a tribe where the women surrounded themselves with men selected for traits found attractive such as submissiveness, cute faces and such.
After a thousand years you had a society where the strongest women who could both build and defend a harem and give birth to many strong daughters to defend the households ruled.
Men had become small and effeminate due to the matriarchs favoring those traits in the men of their harem.

Needless to say, this was deep magical realm territory but I think the players where somewhat normies who mistook it for some kind of feministic comment on todays society.

Founded by an ancient monastic order that found out cock was so powerful because it drained all the power from the body. By removing their cocks, they allowed the power to spread into the rest of their spirits, achieving amazonness.

>>52824081
One of the main problems people have with the idea of a woman warrior society is that no matter how more powerful you make the women, their role in reproduction means they must spend a lot of time vulnerable by being pregnant whereas men don't.

So just say they have a unique blessing of the goddess of motherhood or something that makes them unimpeded by pregnancy/fetuses nigh invulnerable.

Hell, if you really want to go full fetish, make it so the blessing of the goddess of motherhood makes them EXTRA powerful while pregnant, so they're incentivized to be pregnant as much of the time as possible and always go to war pregnant (not that anyone would know, I guess, since a pregnant belly is a clear impediment and would presumably be somehow magically removed. Fetuses incubating in some kind of magical hyperspace connected to the vagina for 7/9ths of the period?)

>>52826385
>also having two boobs doesn't interfere with archery in any way unless you are holding the bow like a retard, which presumably a martial/hunter society would train their warriors not to do.
That might be the biggest thing here. Unless you're, like, Nadine Jansen buxom (in which case you have no business being in the vast majority of sports, much less combat), boobs don't actually interfere with archery all that much. The idea of removing them for that sake, which would've almost certainly wouldn't have been survivable with contemporary medical technology, is silly.

>>52868631
It's not too hot nowadays, either. My girflriend had breast reduction and the scars are pretty noticeable. It's not "ugly", but it stands out.

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>>52868707
>Delicious brown amazone musclegirls who are forced by law to request consent from the men they've handpicked
This is my fetish.

>>52827559
source: http://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=isatan

>>52868655
>Major surgery to remove mass from a visible part of the body leaves marks
No shit, Sherlock.

>>52869557
Breast reduction isn't a "major surgery".

>>52825068
I came here to post this.

Many animals in nature have larger females, I don't see it as such an oddity.

Larger body means easier management of pregnancy for the most part. It's only to the late stages where a larger-female mother goes into hiding and isn't as active a predator.

The amazonian offspring could be birthed at a human size still, it's not like they have to have 20 pound babies.

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>>52824081
Honestly there's two ways to go about this. The first is to not make them like real women. They're a different species entirely, basically men who happen to have vaginas.

The second, if you are okay with this, is making them focused on magic combat instead. They can still swing a sword and shoot a bow, but their swords or their strength have to be magically enhanced somehow.

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>>52868707

>>52868767
Only because you can't get laid lol

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>>52874771
OR

Consider this

YOU COULD MAKE THEM WOMEN
WHO ARE STRONG

What the fuck is your problem?

Nice bait faggot LOO!L

>>52875263
>What the fuck is your problem?
Strong women are like tall dwarves: by adding that trait, you rob them of their essence. You might as well make them women who ejaculate into men's wombs.

>>52875305
>Strong women are like tall dwaves, by adding that trait you rob them of their essence. You might as well make women who ejaculate into men's wombs.

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>>52875305
>Strong women are like tall dwarves: by adding that trait, you rob them of their essence.

>>52875317
Yes, that's exactly what I said minus one word.

>>52875345
Yes, that's the first sentence of my post.

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>>52875305
>might as well make them women who ejaculate into men's wombs

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>>52875305
>Dwarves are entirely defined by the fact that they are fat midgets

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>>52875363
>strong women are like tall dwaves: by adding that trait, you rob them of their essence. You might as well make women who ejaculate into men's wombs

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>>52875363
>strong women are like tall dwaves: by adding that trait, you rob them of their essence. You might as well make them women who ejaculate into men's wombs.

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SOMEONE SCREENCAP THIS SHIT

>>52849544

According to Hippokrates it was more of a superstitious tradition intended to make the right arm stronger, rather than because tits get in the way of bow

This is why it was done in infanthood, so that the, "developmental forces" would go to the arm and shoulder instead of to the breast.

As for the "unsurvivable operation" thing, a baby could probably survive having a nip cauterized about as well as having foreskin removed

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>>52875363
>Strong women are like tall dwaves, by adding that trait you rob them of their essence. You might as well make women who ejaculate into men's wombs.

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>>52867412
>Also holy shit, this whole thread is beyond saving. Forget /pol/, we need to purge /r9k/.
>not being a misogynist who faps to muscular amazons with feminine beniseswho rape everything that moves including each other

Pleb

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>>52875263
Because that is biologically incorrect. I'm not saying that you can't have strong women, I'm saying you can't have feminine strong women. I don't mean feminine as in "not a tomboy", I mean that if you want them to be as strong as men then everything from their bone structure to their body shape is going to be far more masculine than normal. And let's be honest here, if they become that masculine, that ruins the appeal of amazons in the first place.

>>52848518

> webm
She's adorable in her girly-ness, but totally *not* a fighter.

>>52876366
That's why in some mythologies, Amazons are eight feet tall or more. They can retain a more feminine frame, and the increase in mass means they are still stronger than men.

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>>52876406
Well if you just want tall women I can get behind that idea.