Warhammer 40k General

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>>52819784
1st for Crimson Fists

anyone know where I can find the Yvraaine v Nurgle stories? I can't find them on the website

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>tfw reading about Asmodai
>he's literally the reason a lot of people hate/have suspicions about the Dark Angels
>he's only smiled twice
>has ordered the (failed) execution of every Scout from a certain world as he believed their genestock had to have been tainted because no one would answer any of his questions fast enough
>ordered a year long vow of silence on the 7th company because he heard laughter and was in a bad mood
>was locked in his chambers and only was allowed in the chapel after almost starting a war with another chapter and the Inquisition
>when asked if he had any regrets, replied "I should have killed the Inquisitor."
>the only compliment he has ever given was to the Ultramarines Chaplain Cassius "He knows a lot about killing Aliens, which is no bad thing."
Absolutely based.

>>52819958
>Absolute Tool

>>52819958
>reposting this meme

post digga wives

>>52819943
Just bought them and listened to them. They are good.

News tomorrow?

>>52820039
Can you upload them onto a MEGA drive for the greedy pirating fucks here?

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>>52820078
No, I respect Gav too much to allow people to pirate his work.

I can spoiler though.

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>Be head Chaplain
>Don't wear black
>Don't wear skull helm
>Don't use Crozius Arcanum

Someone stop this mad man.

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>>52820102
spoilers please
how rekt does morty get?

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Finally got around to painting some of Mordians /tg/ after all the problems they've been giving me. Just gotta finish painting the rest then I'll base. Hopefully they don't look shit. But have any of you anons done any hobbying/playing lately?

>>52820116
Psychotic gay space vampires suck

>>52820117
Draigo appears and literally ass fucks him.

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Didn't get any replies about this list last thread, anyone got any pointers for me? It'll be my first game since 6th edition.

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>>52820144
>vampires suck

>>52820176
No, only the psychotic gay space ones suck.

>>52820157
god fucking damnit. 2 more questions if you'd be so kind as to indulge.

Is this the story of mortys heart getting carved, or is this a second assraping from Draigo?

What is the artifact the Yvraaine are after?

>>52820182
I was reacting to the pun, which I now see was unintentional.

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Repostan:
Is it a dick move if my opponent brought this to a friendly 1000pts game, or am I just being salty?

>>52820117
Morty made no appearance. Only a daemonic guardian with his visage

>>52820212
Well that's certainly a very powerful list for a 1000 pt "friendly" game. I don't know where the line is between friendly and competitive, but I'd be willing to bet that that list is on the competitive side of said line.

>>52820212
2 dreadknights in a 1k point game is rough but I think my standard list could kill them
Maybe drop it to one and use the points for another squad or 2

>>52820212
>2 baby carriers
Your "friend" is a nigger

>>52820212
Its ok if he gets to bring 10+ Grav

Blood Angels haters pls go and stay go.

>>52820383
Your primarch got bitchslapped so hard his kids all have dady issues. Emo gay space vampires please black rage yourselves all at once and die.

>>52820401
This guy has serious unresolved homosexual issues he needs to work out with a therapist.

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Comments on this? Me and a friend just started playing, he's playing khorne daemonkin, that's all I know.

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Can I get some thoughts on this list? I was trying to mix in some fun Russes, but I'm not sure I have enough dudes.

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>>52820128
>Playing Mordians

>>52820423
t. butthurt that your primarch who's faggotry is only surpassed by Fulgrim got shoah'd so hard his kids all have PTSD.

>>52820445
Not a bad 600 point CAD

You got a little bit of everything, and that heavy flamer's gonna do some real work against Khorne. Just play smart and protect that flamer.

>>52820494
>Jelly of the best most handsome primarch

>>52820498
cool man thanks :) we're planning on moving up to 1000pts now that we've painted the first 600, any tips on what to add?

>>52820558
against kdk you don't need to worry about moving around, because he'll be coming to you, but if you play against other armies you'll need either transports or drop pods at some point.

>>52820383
Reminder:
Space Wolf codex wolf-count: 492
Blood Angels codex blood-count: 505

>>52820538
That's Lorgar though. He's canonically the mirror image of the Emperor and the Primarch who most looked like him.

Unless you're saying that Sanguinias is more handsome than the Emperor?

>>52820589
>Unless you're saying that Sanguinias is more handsome than the Emperor?

Yes.
Lorgar and the Word Bearers never enter into the discussion when the looks are talked about.
The Emperor doesn't even have a set face.

>>52820621
Lorgar's geneseed gives "Patrician and regal features" to those whom can accept it.

Also you're a filthy heretic

>>52820445
is the wolf lord doing anything in particular that couldn't be done with a second grey hunter squad?
(not a SW player so I genuinely don't know the answer, but as I rule I prefer to have more bodies over more wounds)

>>52820572
well, I'll be building a general force I guess. hopefully I'll find more people to play against in the future haha. Should I have dedicated transport for all my squads? Or just like a few mobile squads

>>52820664
>Lorgar's geneseed gives "Patrician and regal features" to those whom can accept it.

Right, so Ultramarine tier maybe, but not in the running for most pretty.

>>52820697
I never said pretty? That'd be BA for their angelic features.

>>52820695
I don't play SM so this is a question for someone else, but I would say that you need some kind of transportation for any squad that has a range less than or equal to 24"

>>52820710
>I never said pretty?

Stop. We're talking the best looking here.
And the Word Bearers are never even considered.

What's the hardest thing to learn in W40k? I've just started and so far the basic principles of the game seem really easy to understand

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Despite promising myself I'd never do so I made a picture book list...
And i doing so realised all my lists until now had been paying for 10 CSM and a Champion, not 10 CSM with one upgraded to a champion.

Anyways, how's it look?

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I was browsing ebay a found squat lascannon for like 20 canadian dollars while trying to find old OOP lascannon weapon teams for my valhallans.

Guy is the same as this guy, but unpainted. I want to know if its ok If I used this model for a lascannon heavy weapon team? If no is there a way i could make it legal?

I rarely play at tournaments but if its also tournement legal that'd be nice.

>>52820865
>What's the hardest thing to learn in W40k
How to find good opponents.

>>52820865
To me it's the determination of cover. I hate the 25% rule, too subjective

>>52820865
Morale is the worst, but even then it's not bad.

>>52820922
>Morale
Leadership tests?

>>52820128
Finally got around to ordering transports for my Iron Warriors. I mostly buy models based on how they look and how much fun I'd have painting them, but I play every so often with a Tau friend and getting everyone shot off the board before I can fire isn't very fun. Hopefully this helps.

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>>52820898
He's a bit smaller. if you put him on a big base and build up some cover it might work.
Just try to match the silhouette.

>>52820955
Take your time building rhinos, I'd say a bag of industrial elastics are near mandatory if you want the hull to be flush.

Am I reading this correctly? No more Apothecary in the Space Marines 7th edition codex? How so?

>>52819943
>literal mary sue character assraping the designated cartoon villains like in every saturday morning
>good

>>52820922
>he doesn't have fearless

>>52821011
The apothecary is a part of the command squad.

>>52821014
The power of Nurgle (Decay and Rebirth) are hard counter to the Death Magic of Ynnead. Ynnari lose their power before the might of Nurgle.

They are not mary sues, so.

>>52820212
A bit cheesy with the two Dreadknights but GK tend to suffer usually in lower point games, I think he was just trying to make up for it. Anyhow better than the time my friend brought two riptides, a stormsurge, and a ghostkeel to a 1850 point game.

>>52821076
Don't you mean Decay and eternal lingering on the edge?

Hardest counter to Death magic is immortality, souls trapped and suffering eternally denied afterlife and rebith.

>>52821076
Yet they still assraped them like the infallible Mary Sues they are. Their 'kryptonite' is only used to hype the fight and make it seem spooky and dangerous, but it always ends up being completely irrelevant.

Fucking Yu-Gi-Oh had a less predictable plot.

Alright anons, ONE change that would make

>Orks
>Tyranids

Viable.

Hard mode: No Soulburst

Anyone ever run Looted Wagons?

>>52821136
>Orks
no one help them

>>52821049
I see. Haven't played SM since 2002, I was surpised not to find him as an HQ unit.
Thanks.

>>52821136
Just need to do some stat changes, but GW thinks it's too much work.

>>52821136
Orks:
>HQ can have one (1) weapon or equipment from any codex.
>A grunt per squad can have one (1) weapon from any others codex infantry.

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How many traitor regiments usually accompany a Chaos warband?

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What do you think?

>>52821136
Tyranids

>+3 inches to move on everything

>>52821255
Or just make them beasts.

>>52821254
freakin' sweet anon

>>52821254
Good base, Metal still looks rather fake though.

>>52821254
That looks great, anon. Good work.

>>52821116
>Yet in the Garden of Nurgle, stepping in the Realm of Chaos proper, she felt an emptiness like nothing before
>Here was no death. Though, the nature of the place they entered was founded on endings and the determination of hope.
>Chaos was eternal, and as much as it is self devouring and self defeating, it is also a font of endless power constantly regurgitating itself
>This cycle of life was writ real in the dismal garden where decay and birth went hand in hand.
>Fungus and maggot, bacteria and scavenger all thrived of the detritus of the previously living. And it was this circular force that robbed Ynnead of his power


Going by the text from the audiobook above. There is no death in the Garden. Only eternal decay and endless life. Chaos is awsome Immrite?

>>52821254
Wow

Thoughts?

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>>52821288

Forgot image

>>52821288
You fucked up.

>>52821301
>literally another card game

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>>52821270
>>52821276
>>52821283
Thanks! didn't expect tha many coments in a moment lol
>>52821273
Yeah about that I still have to add shades and lights, the metal will need a lot of work in that regard

>>52821244
What warband? What mission? Where?

As is it's a "How long is a piece of string" question.

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Why are the Space Marines considered worth the price at all? They're too few to fight straight up wars and any Imperial Navy ship with some Scions and a teleporter can pull off their "Intimidating decapitation strikes". You don't need power armour, a portable RPG and genemods to teleport into someone's office and shoot them, or just level the place from orbit, and you can get a LOT of Russes for the price of a Chapter.

>>52821278
>determination of hope.

>Nurgle
>hope

GW please

>>52821328
Idk I was just thinking. As strong as they are they're still marines in the end, they will need human armies supporting them for anything bigger than a raid.

>>52821136
>Tyranids
Immunity to strength based ID

>>52821348
>confusing nurgle with tzeench
They can't even get their own fluff right.

>>52821326
Only two issues I see:
The clip release button's grooves are very uneven.
The surface/paint on the ejection port is uneven.

>>52821353
Well answer is: It varies.

Some sens them ahead as diversion, some scorn weaklings, some summon daemons, some seed the targets with cults ahead of time and yes some bring them like levies.

>>52821326
I dunno if you've considered it, but try aluminium tape and wrapping the metallic parts in it. Then spray that with your preferred primer and buff it back with steel wool. Does an absolute beauty of a job in my opinion.

>>52821413
Good. I mean there's no way they could defeat the Imperial Guard on their own, they need an army to go toe to toe with them (or at least keep them busy) while they destroy key targets and murder the command structure.

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>>52821301
>Hopes and Dreams:
With the new fiscal year, the date of the 8th edition of WH40k release and some sneakpeek of the firsts codex who are getting a new version
>Reality:
Some shitty irrelevant stuff about nothing interesting

Welp, I'm a fresh faced noob Ork player and I just fought a Tau player
for the first time
using Farsight Enclaves
with 4 Ripitides
at 1500 points

I knew I was going to get ass blasted going into it but Jesus I understand why everyone doesn't like Tau now.

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>>52820321
>>52820349
(what's your "standard list"? Pic related is what I brought)

I'd have been more okay with the Dreadknights if they hadn't been kitted up to the eyeballs. Personal Teleporters mean he shunted them 30" across the board first turn and just started mowing shit down with the flamer and heavy psycannon. Terminators and Voldus arrived Turn 1 so I didn't even get any breathing room to put some hurt into the dreadknights. Voldus started vomiting powers and easily maintained a 4++ on everything for the entire game.

I managed to kill 4 Terminators with plasma fire, shaved another off the unit with Tank Shock. Dreadnought managed to bring one of the knights down to 1 Wound before it was hull pointed to death.
Voldus just straight-up murdered fucking everything with Cleansing flame, asshole never rolled less than a 9 for 2D6 hits.

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>>52821390
About that
>The clip release button's grooves are very uneven.
Yeah I realised after gluing it in, there's no fix now sadly

>The surface/paint on the ejection port is uneven.
I'll fix that with more paint, the job isn't still nearly done

>>52821439
I did not consider that lol
I mean, un til now never heard of it, souns really interesting for a coming work I'll do

Thanks a lot for the feed back guys!

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HELP ME, SALAMARDERS OR ULTRAMARINES? I CAN'T DECIDE AND I NEED TO BUY THE GODDAM PAINT.

ALSO CAN I USE THE "START COLLECTING" IF I FINALLY ROLL SALAMANDERS? FUCK.

>>52821451
Well Alpha Legion could, decapitating command, compromising line of command to call artillery strikes on friendly positions, make regiments think the others are traitors, place a few tainted packs and spread rumours of poisoned rations to make them starve and thirst themselves weak.

And that's all without using space magic.

>>52821551
The one you can spell.

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So Girlyman has the Eye of Night and the Hand of Darkness.

What's the next part of his masterplan?

>>52821551
Neither, do White Scars.

>>52820865
Rule interactions
Example: instant death, feel no pain, and eternal warrior

Or 1 rule giving a model multiple rules, like monstrous creature.

>>52821551
Salamanders are way cooler and less boring.

>>52821583
Saving this Imperium
With as many survivors as possible.

>>52821288
>>52821301
99% chance it's more Death Guard stuff

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So when is this thing being released?

>>52821558
Assuming the Inquisition doesn't dismantle all their shenanigans, I guess. I could see the World Eaters directly working with Blood Pact forces to crush the opossition. The Blood Pact would outclass the Guard, forcing them to bring marines to support them, who in turn would get slaughtered by Berzerkers. That's how I'd do it at least.

>>52821626

That stinks of diesel-punk.
I love it.

>>52820212
And what do you bring?
Lists are relative.

>>52821551
Ultramarines. Scout Sergeant Telion and Marneus Calgar are cool.

>>52821136
Orks I can do easy since I play them. Make standard boy stats S4, I3, and BS3. for vehicles, buff armour a bit and make Nauts super heavy. Bring back looting too.

>>52820574
Come back when Blood Angels have Blood Guards wearing two pairs of Blood Claw, led by Blood Priests and Blood Lords. Riding in Stormbloods or mounted on Thunderblood Calvary.

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>>52821583
>No Mechanicus
OK, that's it. Fuck the Treaty of Olympus and that corpse impersonating the Omnissiah, we're doing our own thing now. Someone find the dudes with the reality cages, get me Kotov, the FabGen and Scoria on the line, we're going to wipe the Tau out, since now we'll never be allowed to use our toys as opposed to stupid character sparring contests and bullshit Mary Sue Primarchs.
Proper war book with Mechanicus vs. Guard or Tau and no stupid melee fights between generals WHEN?

>>52821682
See >>52821507

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Is he really that bad, /tg/? What's his endgame?

>>52821626
May his passing cleanse the world

>>52821755
Unseat the Emperor and take his place. He would rule the Dark Imperium as the Dark Emperor of Mankind.

The real question is how would the Dark Imperium be different than the regular Imperium?

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>>52821723
Fucking this right here. Traitor Guard needs love too, getting tired of Herohammer and their retarded hollywood duels between unkillable mary sues, and the predictable as fuck saturday morning cartoon plots.

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>>52820128
Looking good anon. I played a bunch of SWA yesterday. Had a great time. Pic related.

>>52821799
Well Abaddon would use the Golden Thronr to "think" up a wall around the Warp.
>So 100% less daemons

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>>52821615
They look like that yeah. Also id buy those special bits from Forge World and if those units are not WH30k I might add them as terminators/centuriuons, but I don't know if pic related can be used.
>>52821701
I know, I like them special HQ and unit options.

>>52821136
They were quite powerful when genestealers used to be their basic troops and could move 12 inches a turn. You could also consolidate straight into combat.

>>52821462
>We all know know you want some Sisters of battle so...
>HERES SOME SPACE MARINES!
>theyre like SoB but better and stronger! They even have power armor!

>>52821851
The Start Collecting boxes can be used for any flavor of Space Marines you want. Ultramarines are just the most vanilla posterboys, so they get on all of the box art.

>>52821799
>>52821842
So he's like the Illusive Man from Mass Effect, who thinks he can 'control' Chaos without realizing he was a puppet all along.

Fuck.

>>52821722
You means their dreadnoughts with blood claws, aircraft with blood strike missiles, bloodomancers* shooting blood lances and blood boiling, warlords with sangi's blood* scrolls, his command squads with their blood chalice, bloodshadding* guard wielding bloody* glaives?

*translated form pig latin

>>52821866
SoBcuck
BLOWN THE FUCK OUT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>52821836

Did the Vostroyans win?

>>52821864
>quite powerful
You mean brokenly overpowered.

>>52821883
No, that would be Be'lakor.

>>52821873
And the decals so you know
You might as well not play Space Marines if you don't like Ultramarines.

>>52821910
yes haha they were broken as shit and their dark millennium cards were op as fuck too.

>>52821892
Blood my blood you bloody blooder

>>52820898
I am reminded of the drunk squat sniper attempting to snipe space marines with a multi-melta standing on an open gantry with no cover while grinning like an idiot in that one comic.

>>52821911
Be'lakor just played them to gain power. Abbadon is direcrly using their full support for his own ends. It's been said a hundred times in the fluff that those people never end well.

>>52819943
Black Library

>>52821923
for me the golden nipple armour is too much

>>52820039
Okay wtf is this Great Rift?
It doesn't sound like the Eye of Terror

Where can I find
>Kharn: Eater of Worlds
>Imperial Armor 3

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>>52821949
>t's been said a hundred times in the fluff that those people never end well.

And yet...Archaon.

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>>52821540
I happened to pick the idea up off of one of Adam Savage's cosplay videos. Here's an example with my Priest-Dominus costume's axehead. You can see what it looks like before and after the paint weathering. Ignore the coppery tape, its not real metal and I'll probably replace it.

>>52821911
>Be'Lakor was the Abbaddon/Archaon of his setting before ascending
>Abby's making the same mistakes, but at least he's smart enough to realize Daemonhood isn't the answer to his angst

>>52821920
Pretty sure Space Marine boxes still come with transfer sheets for all the different vanilla codex chapters.

>>52821976
It is the Eye of Terror.

>>52821994
At the cost of his entire dimension. Not even the Gods wanted that.

so many insecure latent faggots in this thread

There's nothing wrong with sculpted chest pieces.
The lore says that the blood angels are not just fearsome warriors but also skilled artisans who strive for a balance between their blood rage and their primarch's gentler pursuits.

The sculpted torsos are just the designers way of showing that BA take extra care in crafting their weapons and armor. That's all.

>>52821301
AoS 2.0

>>52822002
You're wrong then, because all the boxes that come with 32mm bases I've had only have Ultramarines transfers.

>>52821892
>aircraft with blood strike missiles

Get with the times old man, they lost their Bloodstrike Missiles with their 7e codex.

>>52821301

Are NuMarines happening?

>>52822046
Yeah, but I can't see any problems with that, people shouldn't be allowed to use transfers in the first place

>>52821278
They gave out scripts? My share group only uploaded the audios

>>52822032
>At the cost of his entire dimension.

World, you mean. And it was his aim all along.

>Not even the Gods wanted that.

Only Slaanesh was against killing off the Old World. She hid that fact because if the gods knew, they would bully her to no end.

>>52822087
inb4 nothing happens at all
>>52822098
Except it's been a thing in the modelling hobby since it's inception.

>>52821723
>>No Mechanicus

No, Guilliman has simply put them to work making new toys for him.

>>52821301
Plastic SoB

>>52821994
Well, yes, if they want to make their setting shittier, there's always a myriad of methods.

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thinking about doing a marine army with this paintjob, i'm going to have them use the blood angels rules. your guys's opinions?

>>52822037
It has nothing to do with my sexuality they are plastic toys. I just think they look dumb.

>>52821723
That's a Knight to the bottom left

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>>52821505
>4 Riptides at 1500 pts

That's overkill against any army, let alone orks
I hoped you called him out for being a massive waac faggot

>>52821873
>>52821920
Thanks, im new at the game.

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>>52821551

COURAGE AND HONOR!

>>52822168
Thanks, anon. I've just thrown up my dinner and I'm hungry again.

>>52822241
i honestly don't see anything wrong with the color scheme.

>>52822015
No it isn't
The white seer says it opened up during the events of gathering storm
Oh and asurydras the anchorite is still alive?

>>52822203
Noticed, but they're really not the same thing AT ALL. It's not even one of the Mars-Sworn houses, so no Techpriests there aside from the couple overseers for the Sacristans.

>>52822168
I don't like it.

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>>52822213
Eh.... While we had been scheduling this game ahead of time this was a list he's been trying to get used to. I think it's an ITC tourny list and he's been practicing it. When I first met him he was fighting an Eldar with bikes and a wraith knight. He gave me a lot of advice and stuff (he'd played since 2nd apparently) and I learned a lot from it, but I kind of wish he had brought something I stood a little bit of a chance against.

>>52822276
You heard wrong. He says the Great Rift caused a rift to open near the Black Library.

>>52822297
Well, it was derived from his ITC list, the original being 1850 of course.

>>52822168
Way too busy.

>>52822263

Check your glasses mate, it looks like shit.

>>52822168
make the wings around the skull decoration gold as well, then we'll talk

>>52822299
Im listening first time and with no script assuming you have one
It's certainly referred to as a recent event which the Eye of Terror isn't and in both series they refer to Eye as the Eye and then the Great Rift as something else

>>52822336
how so?

>>52821551
Ultramarines are a better all-around army. They're chapter tactics will benefit almost any army build, where Salamanders really only benfit you if you want to bring losts of flamers and melta. Of cours if you like the idea of lots of flamers and melta, then choose salamanders.

>>52822350
>It's certainly referred to as a recent event which the Eye of Terror isn't

The Eye exploding into rapid expansion is the recent event that promoted Girlyman to give Greyfax and Yvarine their quests.

The rift and the Eye are the same thing.

>>52821621
youre a big primarch

>>52822397
prompted

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>>52822416

>>52821996
Looks really cool indeed, thanks for the tip bro!

>>52822168
My advice for colour schemes is never to make their crotch areas a different color to their legs or torso, else they look like undies, which they do.

>>52822471
You dare mock the glorious golden codpiece?

>>52822452
Thats pretty clever tbqh.

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>>52821905
Not that game. Necrons are tough, but they won vs eldar. Here they just finished bayoneting some poor recruit. Good times.

>>52822203
Of an imperial house, Mechanicus aligned houses are, as a general rule, red. Mars is behind his head though, but it's still not really Mechanicus representing.

>>52822539
The painting is composited with certain main colours - blue and gold echoing guilliman
So red would be a disjunction and also it's like a propaganda poster
Mechanicus aren't usually portrayed as a militant force by the imperium

>>52822539
I mean, Mechanicus isn't under Girlyman's command right?

>>52822521
>unpainted eldar

>>52822336
>>52822263
>>52822168
Main colour, accent, contrast.
That's how a scheme is done.

What you have there is Contrast/Contrast/Contrast

Thee primary colours as a scheme is a no-no
Especially at full saturation.

The 80's are over.

Why does the AdMech still cuck to the Imperium?

>>52822610
hm, i see, i guess i'll try and redo it a bit

>>52822610
Unless you get a blue towel, which would change the water flow and improve the decoration.

>>52822622
Kys Heretek - you're not even worth servitor recycling

>>52822622
muh omnissiah

>>52822595
Nope, they're technically a separate nation and under no obligation to give him the time of day. Which makes me mad that Cawl spent the entire series crawling around licking Celestine and Guilliman's boots instead of telling them to fuck off, commanding armies with the Mechanicus' trademark precision and introducing Traitor Land Raiders to the Solar Atomiser.

>>52822589

True, but would it have killed them to make that Navy a Machanicus fleet or tack in a Metallica priest or something?
Also, the Mechanicus is one of the strongest military forces the Imperium has, and even more so now they're going up a notch on the bullshit-o-meter and opening relic vault 2.755x10^28. Mars is like 30% relic at this point, and they've barely scratched the surface with the Skitarii and Cult Mech books.

>>52822622

I mean, normally they don't and just show them where to stick it while cruising around being awesome metal pimps, but since the new books are apparently forming the great 40k Avengers where the Iron Man jobs as usual he had to be nice and lose his flagship before shooting back with any black-hole chrono-cannon he had on board.
(I know, the Speranza was special, but seriously. not ONE trick he could pull?)

>>52822622
The Imperium is more powerful.

>>52822766
Because that worked so well during the Beast War didn't it?
Literally retarded and austistic since you don't understand loyalty and alliance etc

>>52822805
You can be allied to someone without having to bitch down at every opportunity, though. The Mechanicus has a long tradition of being abrasive and antisocial allies who are damn helpful in a pinch, and I was hoping he'd get to at least lead a battle or have a Big Damn Heroes moment somewhere.

>>52822658
blue towel?

>>52822875
>I was hoping he'd get to at least lead a battle

His forces got beaten up by Orks.
He's no great general.

>have a Big Damn Heroes moment somewhere.

Activating the pylons or resurrecting Guilliman don't count?

>>52821505
Playing a list like that will make you salty towards tau for years to come. It only takes one tau player running a list like that to fuck it up for the tau players who don't run that bullshit.

>>52822969
>Activating the pylons
blew up Cadia

>resurrecting Guilliman don't count?
came back a xeno lover

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>>52822636
Version 2.0 of the overly simplified "tool".

>>52823104
So an Australian autist who didn't read the books and just went by 4chan memes
Get lost bogan

>>52822766
>the great 40k Avengers
I can guarantee you Trazyn, Farsight, and even Mag'Uruk'Thraka will be part of the team.

>>52822969
The pylons were subverted by weakening Muh Celestine, for some reason more important than invalidating the only thing that make the CSM more than way worse Astartes.

I wasn't saying he'd be a tactical genius, just maybe casting that +3BS Canticle and Optimizing the fuck out of the entire Mechanicus contingent to do something cool.

>>52823104
>blew up Cadia
I see you faggots finally accepted Abaddon only won because of luck.

>>52820173
>>52820173
Drop some Seraphims and get Dozer blades. Unless for some reason you are playing on a table with no terrain.

Why Seraphims? Well if you are going to deepstrike with Celestine you are Deepstriking 13 models, that is a rather large footprint and with no servo skulls or mystic to reduce the scatter better reduce the size. 6-8 Seraphim is good enough size without sacrificing power.

Regarding Retribution drop the plasma grab a Veteran. The Ld9 will be more usefull,

Howlers are a preference not mandatory for Dominion. Consider removing them if points are needed

Got a quick rules question. If I have a six man squad and half of them have storm shields does the 3++ get conferred onto the whole squad or nah?

>>52822622
Because like the HH have show us the ADmech isn't centralized and has several factions many of them would take the opportunity of a rebellion from their peers to fuck with them and grab as much power while siding to Terra and many of those are zealously devoted the Emperor and not to Mars, then with those loyal guys the imperium can send it's shitloads of guards to take over the rebel forgeworlds.

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>>52823105
this is what i got after following this chart

>>52823187
?

Abaddon crashed the Blackstone Fortress on Cadia which broke it to pieces. Where does luck enter this?

>>52823357
I'm surprised he didn't miss.

>>52823307
Well it's less of an eyesore

>>52823307
Why not just blue and red for the armor though?

>>52823357
Crashing your super special fortress is failing hard in my books. Or did GW said stealing those was easy and totally can afford throwing them into planets?

>>52823307
If you did it in a split or quartered style it would look sweet

>>52823307
Colours themselves burn a lot less now.

Next exercise is focal point, relax your eyes and look again, is there a place where your vision rest comfortably, or does it flicker about between all the blue areas?

You'll want to make the scheme drag the eyes towards the models most detail rich iconic area, usually the face and chest on marines.

Then consider materials, What's hard, what's soft, what intended to be hit, and what recessed to be protected?
Try not to spread a colour over different materials.

And you dont HAVE to make every non-flat areas a different colour than the main armour, consider doing colour zones.

For example: Lower leg zone, backpack zone and so on.

Make it less busy, unless you WANT it to look like a quarter-machine pod toy.

>>52821254
Looks cool, what colour are you going to use for the white part?

>>52823291
What possibly gives you that impression?

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I've got 2 Basilisks and 1 Wyvern. I only really use Russes for Tank Commanders, so I was thinking of using all 3 artillery pieces for my Heavy Support slots.

I know Wyvern are great, but how about Basilisks? Do they get the cut or do they suck because they can't ignore cover?

>>52820212
Oh please, my friend takes 3 of them in 1k. It's not even that scary if you have decent access to ap2 weapons. If you have grav then they're fucked.

Would people complain if I used HH models to proxy for my CSM? Are they allowed at tournaments? I really like to concept of the Iron Warriors not becoming gibbering madmen and therefor keeping their armor non-spikey.

>>52823648
in that instance it's fluffy, because to be honest most Iron Warriors didn't give a shit about chaos, they only used it when it was pragmatic to. So I'd imagine some fairly non-corrupted Iron Warriors just wandering around space for a while would be allowed. Is there a discrepancy in the model size?

>>52823648
It's perfectly legal and fine. People only get a bit upset if you go the other way around, using 40k for 30k.

>>52823592
Basilisks just aren't good enough when compared to wyverns, they destroy nearly every infantry unit in the game

>>52821301

Plague stuff please

>>52823291
no, three of them get the 3++, and the rest of them have whatever they have without storm shields.

>>52823592

play the emperors wrath formation and they will ignore cover.

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so guys, i have an Apoc game soon, 1600 points, because there are a lot of players, and i need some help making the list.

One thing i cannot drop is the Shadowsword, however, most other things are fair game, but i cannot do conscript hordes, as i do not have many guardsmen, i have around 50 guardsmen as i am a tank heavy player.

any support with the list is appreciated.

>>52822609
>tfw over half your army is unpainted because you can't bring the willpower to do them and you fear you'll fuck them up because of lack of skill and experience
>tfw considering starting a necron army both for the fluff and the easy to paint models.

>>52823685
>Is there a discrepancy in the model size?

Newer Marines are a fair bit taller.

>>52823721
i have just realised that some changes i have made have not been saved

give me a few minutes to make these changes.

>>52823685
Model wise they're the same size, but HH models have bigger bases; 32mm well normal CSM have 25mm. Would that unbalance anything? I've heard of people getting banned from events for abusing base size.

>>52823753
how much taller? because if it's over an inch I'd have to say no, because of rules for line of sight and such.

>>52823777
I image the fact that CSM can have those tall horns on their helmets would make up for any height discrepancy.

>>52823777
About half a head.

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>>52823721
If you're playing Apocalypse none of it matters. Just bring anything you want.
Unless you're ready to camp at your game shop or you're playing like 5k vs 5k games, no one's gonna give a toss about winning. During my first Apocalypse game a third of the table collapsed into a molten crevasse, auto-killing almost all of my army and three objectives.

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>>52823307
>>52823488
>>52823533
Here's how it can look.
I went for a more desaturated look because that's what I like.
Used Anons idea about Quartering cause I've never tried it before
I dropped the MK8 chestpice because the beakie helmet can't fit inside.
And I applied a double layer so shading because it looks good.

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>>52823307
okay, i think i got this figured out, thanks for the tips

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does this look ok for 1250?

>>52823745
You'll only get better at painting your models if you paint models. You just gotta do it, and if you really don't like how it turned out could always strip it.

>>52823476
Are you retarded? The Blackstone Fortress was destroyed by a surprise Phalanx. Abaddon just crashed the wreckage on Cadia. Did you read the book or not, you motherfucker.

>>52823777
It's less that they're taller. It's they're no longer doing a power squat.

>>52820445
Id swap the lascannon for an Asscan if youre facing khorne devils

great thing about the dreadnought kit is that if you build it right you can just slot in ranged weapons to swap them as you please

>>52823858
I think grav centurions would be far more useful, but if you're trying not to be cheesy I get it.

>>52823927
Yeah, it's the list I want to play.

If I see riptides or wraithknights I switch them out for a pod and gravcents, drop the LR, and the razorback into a rhino.

With the extra points the scouts become bikes, and add a bikerlib

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>>52823945
>>52823927
Pic related is said anti-cheese list

>>52823876
He still crash a fortress. Wrecked or not.

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>just had game for a local store event
>400p Slaanesh Daemons vs Tzeentch Daemons (Start Collecting)
>kept rolling warp ebb on the warp storm
>then charging
>tabled him
He actually wiped out his own screamers with his special warp storm, killed like 3 of my seekers but I was okay with that.

>>52824003
It was already destroyed. Waste not, want not.

Get rid of Instant Death entirely, weapons do a number of wounds based on a stat. D3, D6, 1, etc,.

Force on a successful psyhic test can remove models unless they possess eternal warrior.

>>52824006
I managed to table a an all biker army with my Ork horde at 500 points.

He had a huge group of 10 or so bikes with a biker HQ, he charged and destroyed a 15 man shoota squad only for 25 Orks to turn around and pounce on him. Starting by dislodging the biker warboss from the slugga squad so he could tank the overwatch on his T6 + jink.

He only had a tiny squad of 3 that was just there to complete his CAD after he lost that.

>>52824162
You can't jink overwatch.

>>52824006
I remember my store did a chaos daemons tourney for the chaos players. Mono Daemon or God-dedicated CSM (Emperor's Children, World Eaters, Death Guard and Thousand Sons) brackets. I entered with World Eaters because I really felt like fucking up some pansies. Came third place too, was fun.

>>52824183
Why not?

>>52823593
In fairness, grav is just as big a dick move.

>>52821301
Both the aos and 40k pages shared it, so fuck if I know.

>>52824199
Oh wait, nevermind yes you can, no idea how that got stuck in my head.
Must have's been charging flamers too many times.

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I think the Tau Start Collecting! was meant to be shipped out with a Fireblade originally, but Ethereals are so god damned useless they needed to sell them somehow. Like, I fireblade is gonna be consistently useful in a single squad of fire warriors, and the formation bonus from the SC would also be really good with a fireblade, since you could "redeploy" to find your ranges while still getting your extra shots in for the turn. An ethereal being in the SC actually makes no sense, and pisses me off. Also, why the fuck do I have to give the dumb bastard a completely useless 5 point upgrade?

>>52824183
Yeah you can

So is Hand of Darkness in the Mega links?

>>52824303

Why don't you look and see, pal?

>spend ages executing fiddlybullshit.exe to ensure that the Onager's legs and footpads can still move freely
>glue it to a base
?????????????

>>52824351
I did and didn't find anything, that's why I'm asking

>>52823648
People still use non-30k CSM?

>>52824358
I leave the bases off on mine. Only the store asshole has ever complained about it, and fuck that guy. It looks way cooler than random circles of non-matching terrain on most boards, anyway, since it stands up well on its own.

>>52823841
I like this one a lot.

>>52823721
not enough boys-- too many toys

Getting back into the game with guard and I'm eyeing up the new Celestine model, holy fuck it looks cool. How does she run on the table and can I take her as an hq/lord of war in a guard army or only in sisters of battle?

>>52824410

You can literally just stand it on its base for measurements/melee if anyone complains, then remove the base afterwards.

>>52824480
she is extremly hard to kill

yes she can be HQ for every army of the imperium

>>52824480

She can be used as a HQ for any IoM armour.

Holy shit I'm going to waste so much money on 40k
And then regret it when 8th edition comes

>>52824268
The SC Skitarii set comes with a model that's not even in their codex.

>>52824549

On what exactly?

>>52824562
Orks and Astra Militarum probably.
Unless I literally decide to eat nothing for the whole month and buy a Titan

>>52824552
To be fair, that's because the Skitarii have literally 0 native HQ choices.

Topically, the Dominus is fucking annoying to glue down

>>52824552
That was clearly intentional though, because the two admech codexes were deigned to work together (see the 2 or 3 mixed formations, the start collecting! and the grand convocation from GS1)

>>52824195
I read World Eaters as Word Bearers for a moment...

>>52824578
Do yourself a favour and scrounge for second hand.

Loads of cheap orks for sale an the best ork vehicles are the ones made from old Astra Milliatarum models.

>>52824504
That's what I do. It shouldn't really have a base in the first place, like a rhino or Russ

>>52824622
I'm gonna loot my everything, and I'll buy the AOBR set from a friend, but I like building stuff too much to do everything second-hand.

>>52820674
He looks pretty cool

>>52824641
Or a deadnaught

>>52824480

Fast immortal tarpit. Good at wiping out weak hordes but won't do anything except lock down heavy targets.

>>52824609
I've done that before. Got weird when reading the codex and thought Khorne's chosen got real preachy for a moment.

>>52824241
Grav is a bigger dick move, I play marines with grav and I fully admit that. He also plays scatbikes so we change from being total dickheads to casual games on a whim.

>>52824480
She is basically a wall, thats about it. I've seen Conscript squad doing more killing than the cow.

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>>52824649
Build yourself list:

Trukks are nearly a must buy from new.
They're a versatile kit that's pretty shitty to paint if pre-assembled less than perfectly.
Flash gits are also too much fun to get pre-made.
Bikers are also fun to build yourself, as are their fliers.

Battlewaggon is a maybe, it has a lot of nice extra bits and cool options.

I'd say mek Gunz but the kits are just plain too expensive.

The rest is pretty meh.

>>52820128
I'm building up a replacement squad of green beans for my first ever squad, who themselves will be taking a simple green bath in the near-future. It's not that I feel I couldn't keep using them, but I want to WYSIWYG my army and this particular squad calls for shotguns. I could make another squad of veteran shotgunners, but their dedicated transport would need to be repainted with the new insignias and that would be more annoying for less gain.

My greatest fear now is GW removing shotguns from the IG's Armory.

>>52824759
>Collect a bunch of fire warriors/hammerheads/pathfinders and such to play most of my group
>csm, deldar, orks, nids, necrons
>Also Eldar player in group
>In our games we go all out, Riptide Wings and Scatbike/wraith spam ynari for days
It's a fun group. Casual when you want it, not-so casual when you want to whip out your big toys

>>52820898
If someone denies you the thrill of feilding squats with lascannons, then they do not deserve the pleasure of your company.

>>52824799
trukk kit + mek gunz kit makes perfect four mek gunz, don't have pictures but trust me, those two fit too well if you are creative

>tfw tempted to put a skitarii alpha's sword/taser prod on my dominus' left rear arm instead of a pistol because i think it'd look awesome
Are people going to give me shit over this?

>>52824857
>>52824799
I'm honestly not happy with the look of stock Mek gunz. I vastly prefer the kannons and lobbas that GW sells on their site, so I'll try to replicate those somehow.

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>>52824857
It's on my to-do list, but i use all my trukks to make buggies, and now I'm saving up for the DG release.

>>52824909
Plasticard tubing and plates, all you really need extre are grots to man them and wheels.

>>52824816
I wish I had more friends that played 40k. So far it's me (Necrons) and two others (Tau and Salamanders) it's not bad but there's only so many times you can play the same combo.

>>52824896
Err. No? Why would they do that, it's a fairly simple conversion and he has 2ccw and a Power Axe anyway, so it changes nothing even if he was magically given the misc CCW as wargear. People make all kinds of fun Magi, there's the flying stabby snek one in the HHG, for instance.

>>52821082
What the fuck? if he can't bring his good stuff to 1850 (tourney standard) when can he bring it?

>>52824896
>he thinks anyone that's not an AdMech player keeps track of all his weird looking limbs and weapons

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no shadow war armageddon rules scan yet?

>>52824990

I've had the rules for like a week, scrub. I don't even remember where I got it. Was from some foreign 40k rumor site and not here.

>>52821136
I've already brainstormed this one:
>Orks
Feel no pain is an army-wide thing. Because mushrooms feel no pain. This forces the enemy to use more strength 8 guns to negate even the basic horde's natural saves. The Wyvern in particular would be hella-nerfed with one-third of all casualties being negated without any way to stop it.
>Tyranids are different
Every Horde Army needs it's own way of being a horde. The Guard use platoons: Strictly regimented squads under a chain of command. Not really a blob-based army unless they specifically join squads or buy conscripts. Orks do it the old-fashioned way: They don't take units-within-units; They just take really BIG units of 20 or more boys.
Tyranids now get to have the strangest "Horde" mechanic: They do not guy their hordes. Instead, you buy their monsters: Warriors, Carnifexs, Lictors, Whatever. And each monster (or monsters in the warriors' and other smaller creatures' case) comes with a small squad of ablative wounds in the form of Termagaunts or Hormaguants, your choice. Tyranid Flyers get spore mines, but said mines act as their own units. These guys are free, share the parent creature's biomorphs, and absorb damage. BUT, if the parent creatures like the warriors die to bad placement or precision shot, then all the Gaunts in the unit die from psychic backlash. Finally, psychic backlash no longer effects any other creatures other than gaunts. Some larger monstrous creatures that couldn't conceivably hide behind guants due to size instead give buffs to nearby units. So a Trygon for example might bestow fleet to units within 6".

>>52824990
>Yet
You missed it, It was up for 3 generals and SWAgenerals.
Of course none of the lazy bums bothered to add to to the repository.

>>52824990
https://mega.nz/#!0tcUTSLI!CbZfDWqYYe0C2sIDLNlHCh1Wj9I6uihERaaGEb6wk3c

You're in luck anon, I bookmarked it.

>>52820898
Look at that shit-eating grin. Well who's laughing now, Mr. No Faction?

Are tacticals good in drop pods, or are rhinos the way to go.

I have a list with 2 drop pods, and would like a third so I can have two drop on turn one

>>52821141
I run a Killkannon looted wagon in my ork army. Does good work for a 67 point model.

>>52825014
I like it, though maybe I'd have abandoned gaunts go feral as per instinctive behaviour, to avoid the dull shit that is "remove 30 model from the table", (fantasy and Apoc has enough of that garbage) The make HQ choices able to impose benefits and possibly rain in rampaging critters.

have hand of darkness or eye of night been uploaded yet?

>>52821722
>>52821892

WTB Sharknoughts shooting shark-missiles and sharktroopers with shark claws surfing on top of shark tanks

>>52825091
Pods for surgical strike squads, Rhinos for general purpose milling about.

>>52825091
Both are good. If they don't have a grav cannon or grav gun or melta to shoot out of the rhino hatch you might as well go aggressive with a pod. Since you have 2 pods already you should probably go with a pod.

>>52821141
the Ork CAD needs like 6 Heavy Support choices.

>>52824981
Yeah, I don't bother giving my opponents the weapons names when I'm describing them anymore. I just tell them what they do.
>If I had a dollar for every time someone had demanded to see my codex after I get into CC with taser weapons, I could afford a dragoon squadron.

>>52825129
I have them as 5 w/ grav cannon in a rhino atm.

What's a good loadout for a pod?
Or is it better to just replace them with a scout squad and try to get something better in a pod?

>>52825107
Eye of night is up on vk warhammer art of war

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>tfw dow III isn't fun

>>52825164
Have you played it? What's not fun about it?

I was really looking forward to it

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>>52825135
True that, especially after the local Renegades player lost about five squads to them and only killed one. Singlehandedly dealt with half the Unending Host, those guys. He'd only bought them 6+ FnP, though, so it was killing on 2+ no saves with Zealot and Taser

>>52825149
thanks anon

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beep boop fuck the heretics.

>>52825234
Are you aware that those aren't robots?

>>52821558
Saying these things is a lot harder than doing those things. Any GW employee can just say the Space Marines are good at destroying the head of an army, but I doubt they've ever considered the actual logistics of locating, isolating, entrapping, and killing an enemy leader in wartime.

As for the ration thing, this requires that the enemy army (A) Only has access to rations and no alternative food or water, (B) Actually believes someone managed to poison most of the food supply, (C) Hasn't been aware of the whereabouts of these particular ration packs since before the rumors started and not just some of it and (D) Doesn't just get desperate enough to eat the damn ration packs anyways. Just as an example:

>Oh shit, I hear a bunch of guys in C company got poisoned! What if our food is poisoned too?
Hold on a moment. Hey! Company Clerk! How long have our MRE's been sitting in that chimera? 30 Years? Okay, we're good!

Making guard think other guard are traitors could be easy or hard depending on the regiment. Especially if the guard figures it out, which is easy when the guys your shooting at start yelling at you to cut it out instead of fighting back like proper traitors.

>>52825173
Yeah the open beta is going on. I don't really know what it is, I haven't played much yet but initial impressions are not great. they basically sacrificed everything that made DoW fun in the name of esports cancer. Each faction has like 5 total buildings and pretty much only basic units (IE scouts and tactical marines + vehicles). There's no weapon upgrades except for the tactical squad which can switch from 5 bolters to 5 flamers or 5 plasma guns. If you want to run termies, you have to use an elite slot, which means you'll only ever have like 3 terminators at any given time. The units die super fast, especially to shit like the orbital bombardment which just wiped out my entire army in one click on more than one occasion. The elite system as a whole is just fucked. It doesn't feel like dawn of war, it feels like a weird mix of starcraft and dota.

also no fucking sync kills god damn it

Does anyone have that screencap of the guy who beat Magnus to death with Angron a couple weeks after the Tsons release?

>>52825268
Sure, but fuck the heretics anyway.

>>52825274
I really enjoyed the single player of dow 1 & 2, does that look fun?

can I get the image of yvraine going "eldari are a proud and noble race"?

>>52825371
https://www.google.com/search?q=proud+and+noble+race+40k

Click images

>>52825393
I tried that and the result I found said "your IP or IP range is blocked from visiting 4chan"
Which is fucking weird because here I am

>>52825340
There's no single player in the beta, but if it uses the same mechanics of the multiplayer I can't reasonably imagine it being good.

Fuck I'm depressed. Guess I'll go play soulstorm.

>>52825407
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjrw8ymybbTAhWX14MKHdhwACUQjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwh.reactor.cc%2Fpost%2F3032801&psig=AFQjCNGZv2StEwYuf9vIlZBX0saU_O5roQ&ust=1492899110174400

File: Warhammer-40000-фэндомы-Eldar-Roboute-Guilliman-3731208.jpg (152KB, 1246x824px) Image search: [Google]

152KB, 1246x824px

>>52825407

File: Proud and noble.jpg (313KB, 1246x807px) Image search: [Google]

313KB, 1246x807px

>>52825431
>>52825451
Okay, thanks

>>52823984
Is this army competitive enough to just bring to play at 1250 with no expectations of what I'd be facing?

>>52825489
Pedo and Sternguard are pretty pointless in the list but otherwise it should do fine

>>52825500
Pedro is there to tank AP2 for the gravs, and the vets get obsec from pedro.

I'm not disagreeing, just stating my reason for them being there.

What would you change?

>>52825451
I don't get the joke.

>>52825268
one of them is.

>>52825521
contemptor dreads aren't robots any more than regular dreads.

>>52825518
it's an edit from a screencap of a manga called dungeon meshi which is pretty popular with the D&D crowd on here. It's basically an rpg manga that revolves around cooking and eating monsters.

>>52825542
they're more robot than normal people.